Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 73 — Tattoo Vibe Shift？ RFK's Day 1 Agenda？ Subway Speakerphone Ban？

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00:00:10.520 okay everybody uh it is thought crime thursday and we are here live with blake andrew and jack

00:00:25.400 did i get that right i always say that before i can say oh no tyler there's no jack jack is in

00:00:30.600 ukraine is that right jack has enlisted to be a fighting force soldier of zelensky is that correct

00:00:35.580 he's he's front lines yeah i mean he is front lines they gotta they get drafted man yeah he got

00:00:43.880 drafted he was the first drafted yeah mitch mcconnell they got a letter where they said

00:00:47.940 anyone who has a polish last name in the united states has to go fight in ukraine for their old

00:00:53.980 you know poland used to own that whole mitch mcconnell letterhead and everything it's yeah

00:00:58.280 exactly i wouldn't have answered that it's really crazy it's one of those things doge found like it's

00:01:02.440 actually a law that they have to do this if they if we fight in eastern europe you just you get drafted

00:01:08.420 if you're polish it's crazy so we have a series of topics today that are unusual uh one of them is 1.00

00:01:20.620 someone i don't really know i think he dated kim kardashian blake introduce us to our first topic

00:01:26.080 no that's that's part of the joy that's why i thought it'd be fun to drop this on you so there

00:01:29.840 is this person named pete davidson he is famous for he must be famous for some kind of reason i've

00:01:37.900 never quite understood what it was i think he's allegedly a comedian but i don't know any jokes

00:01:42.980 he's told or anything but just just trust us that just trust me charlie he is he is famous for

00:01:48.300 some reason anyway he's also like very ghastly looking because he famously would be covered in

00:01:54.660 a million gazillion tattoos he was basically the prototypical modern millennial by being tatted up

00:02:01.700 from neck to ankle and a kind of strange story to have happen in the first three weeks of the trump

00:02:08.780 administration is he went and he got all or almost all of his tattoos removed which i don't know if

00:02:17.120 you guys are aware because i don't think any of us here have tattoos but it's actually a pretty

00:02:21.420 involved process to do this he apparently had to spend about 250 000 and they basically have to burn

00:02:28.940 it off like they systematically burn your skin and then it has to grow back so this is a pretty intense

00:02:36.600 thing for him to do uh but he actually did burn it off and you know did a kind of gay looking photo

00:02:43.220 shoot there uh but we won't dwell upon that what we're dwelling upon is this is happening in the

00:02:50.540 first uh first month of the trump administration and it's also happening while we're having all of

00:02:56.140 the the dei rollbacks we're having we've moved on from just walmart and target to to disney is canceling

00:03:03.220 dei uh goldman sachs a major investment they're they're canceling their dei is there a vibe shift and can we

00:03:11.420 detect it from such things and also is it good i feel like maga was becoming the the if anything the

00:03:17.420 the tat there was a lot of tattoos in maga so maybe we're just doing a switcheroo on that one anyway i

00:03:23.660 think it's an interesting topic charlie do you want to do you want to chime in or you want you know

00:03:31.420 how about i start with this i'm trying to i'm trying to learn how about i start with this pete davidson

00:03:36.780 his dad famously died in 9 11 he was like a a new york kid staten island his dad died okay so like

00:03:45.680 that's kind of his origin story i think he's got he's he's quintessential daddy daddy issues kind of

00:03:54.020 millennial guy so then he becomes a comedian he was on snl dated kim kardashian dated like apparently

00:04:01.500 the deal with pete davidson and and i don't understand the fame thing either but he's dated

00:04:07.380 a lot of really attractive women so apparently he's got some game i don't understand what the game is

00:04:13.120 there's there's rumors about that but then he is to blake's point he's probably the most surprising

00:04:20.840 person that you would see reform his life in such a way so i don't know if he had some really like

00:04:26.780 good alpha dad and he's kind of reconnecting with with that energy that he you know obviously it was

00:04:32.560 with his dad's tragic death in 9 11 kind of fell away from it and he was just had a really long

00:04:37.620 rebellious period but he is he's got something he's got something because he's able to have the

00:04:44.560 success that he had he's produced and directed movies and i think corrupt co-wrote them so it is a

00:04:51.000 very telling cultural marker uh i don't know if you can extrapolate too much from it but good for him

00:04:56.660 i tend to think tattoos like the ones he had were pretty heinous and ugly and tacky um i would love

00:05:03.700 to know what the people in our chat think what do you guys think about tattoos in general is we do

00:05:09.600 to blake's point a lot of people in the maga world and conservative movement have a lot of tattoos

00:05:13.980 it's a military thing but pete david davidson's was definitely next level next level tattoos

00:05:22.120 tyler mormons aren't allowed the bible does prohibit tattoos just saying yeah i mean i think 0.62

00:05:28.660 everyone prohibit it yeah every i think most like orthodoxy is against yeah and anyone although then

00:05:36.560 we did go we did go through the phase where we were like celebrating like hegseth for having his

00:05:40.660 deus volt tattoo and all of that so no i feel like people are a little schizo on the tattoo topic 0.61

00:05:46.240 depending on whether they think it feels like cool and rebellious or just trashy

00:05:51.180 i feel like if you're in the military you get away with it first of all um and i mean yeah leviticus

00:05:58.660 1928 you shall not make any cuts on your body for the dead or tattoo yourselves but isn't that saying

00:06:06.420 for the dead no or tattoo yourself or tattoo yeah um but again there's a lot of things in the old

00:06:16.880 testament that we don't necessarily bring forward to the new testament like you know women's head 1.00

00:06:22.880 coverings i don't know there's a bunch of stuff what uh you want to read those comments angelo or

00:06:28.900 blake i i was i was going to say while we read those some people those uh i think it's a it's a

00:06:36.240 maturity thing too i i could be wrong about this i don't know if pete davidson pete davidson's kind

00:06:41.000 of his whole brand is known as kind of being immature and i think that maybe you're talking about vibe

00:06:47.640 shift with all this stuff i think that there are a lot of people and i know i've known a lot of people

00:06:52.880 who've had tattoos removed i've i've a lot of friends it's a very millennial centric thing i actually

00:06:58.640 think this is part of the swing back with gen z gen z is a lot less edgy about this stuff i kind of

00:07:04.760 i've always equated to people the millennial thing is kind of like hippie is gen z less edgy or i i

00:07:10.840 could if someone told me gen z someone told me gen z can't get tattoos because they're so scared of

00:07:16.420 needles because they're scared of everything so they can't handle the tattoo process i would probably

00:07:22.020 believe them because it seems like gen z is scared of its own shadow it's like the like those phone

00:07:28.120 apps you know that can track people no i think you can agree like an older millennial kid would be

00:07:33.520 angry if their parent was you know putting a tracker on their phone to know exactly where they

00:07:37.380 were at all times apparently it's the opposite now where zoomers are uncomfortable gen zers are 1.00

00:07:43.900 uncomfortable if they they can't have the app on their phone so their parents know where they are at

00:07:49.080 all times yeah they need that comfort it's like so maybe they're also just scared of needle pricks

00:07:54.560 they're they're scared of you know they're scared of driving they're scared of i i i just think i just

00:07:59.660 think it's been like a swing back and gen z is just a lot more you know almost traditional in a lot of

00:08:07.000 different ways and he's young millennial though to be fair to be fair he's young millennial he's the

00:08:12.140 exact same age as charlie kirk basically he's like a month younger than you charlie i i'm a month

00:08:18.200 older yeah that's right that's crazy i mean so can we put the can we put the picture up for anyone who's

00:08:23.700 gay or a woman is this considered a good looking man i would like i would like someone to instruct

00:08:28.380 me i i just i'm so fascinated what is the chat thing uh fisherman 85 says he got a tattoo when he

00:08:37.080 was 23 he was drunk and he had 50 burning a hole in his pocket lol i think that does accurately

00:08:44.400 represent the thought process that goes into permanently marking your body much of the time

00:08:50.140 like yeah i'm definitely gonna want this like like the name of this girl i've been dating for

00:08:55.740 two weeks on my skin forever that will not be something i regret i actually have a good story

00:09:00.620 about this we had staff leading into 2020 they all went out one night and they got inside their lip

00:09:08.980 tattoos that said maga and then obviously we know what happened in 2020 so we had no choice but

00:09:15.700 it's just been four years of fighting back because their tattoos and they were told that those tattoos

00:09:20.020 would fade on their inside of their lip it did not did not fade it did not fade so they've got they've

00:09:26.720 got permanent that just sounds like so what were they just sitting there like oh for for like

00:09:32.020 they must have had a really great night i don't know i wasn't there so they was that really there's

00:09:38.100 like four or five of them and then okay uh the real arthur blake who is not me he he says the photo is

00:09:45.360 gay so i trust him i think he's probably got a good evaluation of that he looks like he looks like he's 0.70

00:09:52.300 strung out oklahoma stoner chick i probably would trust her too um too skinny because uh what are you 1.00

00:09:59.940 looking at because the sun doesn't hit it i think the uh the comments are not feeling very positive

00:10:05.340 about uh mr pete davidson so pete davidson yeah but let's take the can we take the picture down

00:10:14.060 i just like i don't know if i need you asked for them to put it back up i i will i want to note that

00:10:18.800 you asked for them to put it back up i did not charlie asked oh whatever someone did the point is it

00:10:24.540 wasn't me who asked it to go back up all right that's fine you asked the question though andrew

00:10:29.500 about what's the allure of him to like he gets like really attractive i think he's like yeah he's

00:10:34.940 dated like a bunch of models right i could be wrong about this but i think wasn't he like branded like

00:10:40.020 the rebound guy like he was always the guy that was like picking up girls that like i i just like

00:10:45.180 kind of semi remember this is like he was always picking up famous girls like right after they break up

00:10:51.040 is that am i wrong about that i don't know if anyone else heard that but i think a lot of women 1.00

00:10:56.420 and they're famous they like to date people who are funny i think i think he's on the on the funny

00:11:05.360 attractive scale obviously less attractive probably to most people but he's funny so he's dated he's

00:11:11.420 dated madeline klein who's apparently somebody uh uh some chase sue wonders i don't know any of these

00:11:19.540 people this is hilarious he dated ariana grande he dated emily rata chakowsky whatever her name is

00:11:27.320 you know she's kind of like famous for being famous kim kardashian phoebe denever don't know who 1.00

00:11:33.380 that is oh i recognize her face so she's some actress kaya gerber i don't know it's like a lot of 0.65

00:11:40.080 famous kate beckinsale he dated kate beckinsale yeah who's like super old yeah kazzy david i don't know

00:11:47.980 who that is anyways they're all like obviously noteworthy uh people uh to some extent so he's

00:11:55.340 got some game but he's like the he's the uh celebs like to date effeminate men says crimson blackard 0.77

00:12:01.840 i kind of think that's right yeah you know this does circle back though to our most important topic 0.87

00:12:06.340 which is whether lord of the rings is gay or not because did you know that the cast of the fellowship

00:12:13.120 the nine members of the fellowship of the ring they to to commemorate being on like in the movie

00:12:20.060 they all got some shared tattoo that's like with something from tolkien and they all they all got

00:12:26.220 the tattoo i watched lord of the rings this weekend and tyler ruined it for me i have to just be honest

00:12:31.480 you agree with him every time frodo and sam you gave into no i don't you see it you see i don't agree

00:12:37.480 i'm saying that he ruined it to be it's just as i i always used to look at it as you know brotherly

00:12:43.840 love and then frodo and sam there's some very long gazes it's it's it's it's brotherly love you guys i

00:12:50.180 don't want to say tyler's on to something but like to the propaganda no no no the propaganda wants

00:12:55.260 you to think every time tyler tyler tyler gets in your head about this and then all of a sudden you

00:13:03.220 can't unsee it i'm not even saying it's right i'm saying you kind of infer it and like geez frodo

00:13:10.100 doesn't look at women that way this is the woman in the woods that way doesn't look at live tyler

00:13:16.900 that way that's right that's right i think i think you can infer that frodo knew and then you really

00:13:22.320 start wondering like mary pippen sam and frodo are all sharing a room and you really start thinking

00:13:28.080 about things you shouldn't be thinking about this and this is like a three-week log like

00:13:32.840 conversation and it's gonna keep going until i win this conversation and you gotta wonder like

00:13:37.600 what are they actually doing in rivendell what are they really doing in rivendell because you look at

00:13:42.340 it through kind of the modern woke lens and i got it's i'm not saying tyler's right but it half

00:13:47.920 ruined the movie for me you realize what they're doing at rivendell is they're singing why is

00:13:53.740 gandalf going down there like a weirdo it's like they're playing music and they're singing their

00:13:58.380 elfish songs in their elfish language and there's nothing gay about it no what's gandalf really going 0.77

00:14:03.520 down there for it's like his little thailand like this is like is gandalf the epstein wizard of

00:14:09.660 middle earth yes he is yeah that's his thailand i'm not saying throw this up brian wants to throw

00:14:17.260 this up 204 let's throw it up there it is yeah it's no i'm telling you once you see it through

00:14:25.440 the tyler lens he's not that he's right it's just you can't unsee it and it kind of ruins the film

00:14:29.340 you guys you guys i want to make this point that we didn't make the a few weeks ago was it's not just

00:14:35.040 that i think peter jackson had this weird homoerotic approach to this because the elves are all super

00:14:42.060 gay they're all they're all super gay like orlando bloom is like he looks like pete davidson he's like 0.98

00:14:48.560 he's just like he's got pete davidson vibes to him which is like that's yes yes and we and we talked 0.99

00:14:55.420 about all the orcs there's no women orcs there's no female like what is this like there's a lot of 0.83

00:15:00.740 gay because the orcs what do they do that's gay what do the orcs do that's gay oh there's no girls 1.00

00:15:06.540 there's no women okay yeah that so is the military gay like when we make is pete hegseth's goal to 0.96

00:15:12.600 like make combat really gay is that is that the goal tyler the story itself the story itself is not

00:15:20.180 necessarily homoerotic but there's like gazes that are like half a second two seconds too long

00:15:26.480 and then like the whole like sam i'm so glad i have you with me it's like completely unnecessary

00:15:33.160 extra lines of dialogue i'm sorry i like i re-watched it and it's such a good movie and it's

00:15:38.720 so amazing but if you kind of go back to watch a movie 20 years ago through modern ultra like let's

00:15:47.480 just say gay lens of film you see some things there you got boy if that was made in 2025 it would be 0.98

00:15:55.140 broke back mountain of mountain it would be awful yeah this reminds me this reminds me of what

00:16:00.640 happened with abraham lincoln right so he had this really close friendship with a guy named joshua fry

00:16:06.020 speed and this is before they were he was president like well before i i sent the the the old-timey

00:16:12.460 image of joshua fry speed but there was in 1926 a biography of lincoln by carl sandberg alluded to

00:16:19.940 the early relationship lincoln and his friend joshua fry speed had as having a streak of lavender

00:16:25.520 and spots soft as may violets uh and that's kind of reminds me of like a really good description

00:16:32.920 of uh frodo and that's ian mcclellan that's gandalf yeah gandalf is gay i forgot yeah yeah yeah 0.81

00:16:41.320 yeah but like i also call it like this is you know we're changing history here i mean i can guarantee

00:16:47.860 you that that maybe the movie's a little bit like homoerotic but like the books and the original

00:16:54.820 grand marshal he's the grand marshal of the gay parade yeah but that's that's modern you know 0.99

00:17:01.460 that's not that that's not the way the books were written that's not the original intent oh geez 0.71

00:17:06.780 i know you guys are when you accept this framing you are giving in to to the to the gay industrial 0.78

00:17:14.980 complex i never thought it at all my entire life and then tyler mentions it and it half ruins it

00:17:21.580 like no hold on if you let them do it if you let them get away with it they're gonna make george

00:17:25.140 washington gay they're gonna make jesus gay they're gonna make that's that's that's why i brought up 0.79

00:17:30.000 lincoln with his so he had a like he has four kids he was in a long relationship with his wife

00:17:36.900 what was her name mary todd or whatever and he had a history of having romantic relationships with

00:17:42.060 other women before that i don't i'm not sure they were physical but the point is everybody thought 0.80

00:17:47.640 he was heterosexual his whole life and then we get to like 2020 and all of a sudden he's gay this so 0.99

00:17:52.760 so i i do want to like make space for the fact that that men can have intimate non-sexual very

00:17:59.940 heterosexual relationships and i think before the gay agenda took over modern pop culture nobody would 0.98

00:18:06.880 have thought differently about it stop it ryan one of our producers keeps putting in very

00:18:12.260 inappropriate pictures uh anyways what it's worth there we have to make space for the fact that well

00:18:18.320 i mean this is this is a real conversation though because and this and this does tie back to pete

00:18:22.880 davidson because you know his like this you know growing up fatherless thing obviously no fault of his

00:18:28.900 his dad died in 9 11 whatever but like this entire feminization of males i think the feminization

00:18:36.580 of males in general has made it impossible for guys to have like those old school you know guy best

00:18:44.160 friends because people look at you and question if you're gay so when you create a world in which

00:18:48.900 that's so prevalent i think it's harder to be to heart it's hard to have like a best buddy and this

00:18:55.100 actually i've talked about this recently with friends it's like it's actually hard in general

00:18:59.620 for men to get together and do anything like kind of the old school days it was like men used to get 0.55

00:19:03.400 together and do bowling leagues and poker nights and those things happen but i don't think they're

00:19:08.440 nearly as prevalent as they were you know many years ago and and i think it's like this is all

00:19:15.300 par and parcel to like again hollywood everything just like pushing the gay agenda which you know may 0.94

00:19:20.980 or may not have started with lord of the rings so you know just i totally agree i totally agree

00:19:26.720 here's i don't know if this is going to help my case or hurt it depending on but i'll never forget

00:19:31.420 when i went to italy and okay so it's apparently going to hurt it based on blake's reaction to italy

00:19:38.200 but i remember going in italy and there would be men holding hands walking down the street just

00:19:43.920 holding hands and they were i asked i was like are they gay and they're like no no they're straight as an 0.63

00:19:48.880 arrow like that's just men in italy they'll just hold like if they feel close to another man they'll

00:19:54.140 just hold each other's hands i'm just i'm just saying what i saw yeah that's what i think that's

00:20:00.200 what i think all i'm saying is through a 2025 lens you watch the movie 20 years later and it's just you

00:20:08.760 can't help but think because we look at all of that stuff as as homoerotic and gay

00:20:14.660 thanks for ruining a childhood uh favorite tyler really appreciate it oh no no he completely wrecked

00:20:24.420 it well i mean it was somebody had had planted that in my mind but this is what how it happened

00:20:31.160 for me i i watched during covid i downloaded all the trilogies that existed because there was like

00:20:38.580 so every night i would just watch start watching one of the trilogies i watched literally every movie

00:20:44.000 that had a trilogy and i downloaded lord of the rings i started watching i was like man this is

00:20:48.140 really gay i can't watch this and i like shut up i downloaded all three i paid for all three movies 0.89

00:20:53.000 and i only watched like the like first half of the first one now i'm now i've thanks to thanks to 0.88

00:20:59.480 andrew's like italy's super straight thing i'm i'm looking up liberace to make sure he was in fact

00:21:04.100 italian and yes he was italian and he put a big candelabra on his piano and he insisted he was

00:21:10.480 straight his whole life and then he did well he died of a condition not associated with that

00:21:16.000 well i'm just telling you what i saw and men in italy walked down the street together holding each

00:21:21.860 other's hand and if you if you watch the movie closely near the beginning at bilbo baggins 110th or

00:21:29.320 111th birthday sam was really nervous to go up and talk to the ladies or the woman so he needed like

00:21:35.480 an extra thing of beer and had to be thrown into it i'm just saying straight that's straight like

00:21:41.200 gays are great at talking to women because they have like women brain wait hold on not always a lot 0.99

00:21:47.720 of what so why why would a gay dude be nervous about talking to women what's he worried is gonna 0.89

00:21:53.500 happen a lot of dudes are that's that's so cliche it's a shtick they use in the movie that men are

00:21:58.480 nervous of talking to women only only a certain subset of men are nervous not nervous to talk to

00:22:04.540 mary and pippin hey i will tell you that if you go watch uh top gun the original like go watch that 0.98

00:22:12.160 for homoerotic oh you're gonna make you're gonna make top gun gay for charlie now are you ruining 0.98

00:22:16.540 everything what are you and top gun for all of us i mean top gun is is objectively homoerotic 0.97

00:22:22.740 andrew you are putting this conversation in the danger zone you are on a highway to the danger zone

00:22:29.840 right now yeah this is not telling you there is a reason why there's a lot of rumors flowing around

00:22:35.420 about uh the lead in that film tom cruise i'm just saying that what else what what else are you gonna

00:22:40.460 ruin for me the original 1980s top gun is the most homoerotic movie ever created it's a fact 0.98

00:22:49.380 you're just gonna come in every every every week it's gonna yeah but there's also gonna assert 0.75

00:22:53.840 another movie is gay you're gonna be like i mean star wars is gay the godfather is it was really 0.91

00:23:01.600 kind of like it wasn't really the five families it was kind of like a gay conclave that was running 0.99

00:23:06.680 inner italian mafia yeah you're gonna be like the good the bad and the ugly gay you're gonna 1.00

00:23:11.460 no no no citizen king it's not gay citizen gay no it's not under every rock rosebud was not 0.99

00:23:20.720 actually his sled growing up rosebud was a secret lover that he had during college 0.69

00:23:25.040 yeah charlie don't look up the slang term don't look up slang terms for that word

00:23:30.120 just that's all i'm gonna say clarence uh man you you can't you can't touch you cannot touch uh it's a

00:23:37.940 wonderful life okay you cannot touch okay hold on i mean top gun is like this is not me breaking

00:23:43.160 news everybody knows top gun's homoerotic no i just i've never thought of it that way he's right 0.93

00:23:48.420 you're gonna say it's gay yeah you're gonna say that like red dawn is gay because uh charlie sheen 0.86

00:23:56.280 and and what's his name they like are holding each other on that bench after like getting shot at 0.66

00:24:00.780 the end look at this esquire magazine the top gun volleyball scene is is not homoerotic it is

00:24:08.820 homosexual that's the new one that's the original one that's the new one to have watched both of 1.00

00:24:13.740 them have volleyball scenes oh yeah i forgot there was an original volleyball one i thought there was

00:24:19.800 oh they brought it back because it was so popular in the first one yeah uh a lot i i googled the the

00:24:30.080 gayest movies that are explicitly gay and also on there is uh wizard of oz oh that that's like that's

00:24:36.840 a different one where whether that movie is gay or not gay people are obsessed with wizard of oz because

00:24:41.620 gay men love judy garland i guess the more the more you know uh i also think that there's that

00:24:50.820 connection the same connection with uh lord of the rings as you have in fact the small people if you

00:24:55.860 look up like gay icons i think judy garland is literally the first result it's uh kind of kind

00:25:02.380 of strange oh man we're gonna this is getting way too deep into the lore we should probably we should

00:25:06.520 probably hit the evac button to the next topic before every it'll turn out everything everything is

00:25:11.120 okay this is why people pay the big bucks hold on hold on i'm i'm this is top 10 macho blockbusters

00:25:17.300 with hidden homoeroticism number 10 is ravenous from 1999 i've never heard of that uh 300 is number

00:25:25.360 nine number eight top gun 1986 what are you talking about number seven come on yeah well because it's

00:25:33.620 all these dudes running around yeah it's called like dudes who are murdering other dudes yeah all right

00:25:40.600 a nightmare on elm street freddy's revenge from 1985 tango and cash 1989 x-men first class 2011 0.91

00:25:48.380 yeah x-men's kind of gay we're corrupting the audience yoma yoma 63 i feel like i'm being 0.98

00:25:55.100 corrupted i never saw gayness in top you guys are gonna mess with you're destroying our audience 0.99

00:26:00.280 ben hurd 1959 i could see that fight club 1999 what do you think about fight club fight cups kind 0.93

00:26:08.820 of gay yeah yeah yeah i have not actually seen the fight club movie i think i'm the only person born

00:26:14.600 in my year to have not seen it that's a perfect example of a a movie that was that was directed at

00:26:20.700 men that men like boys were supposed to like that had severe gay undertones for sure yeah i read the

00:26:27.980 book the book is like because they're like they're they need like camaraderie that's just like what a

00:26:33.800 gang is like a you know i just i don't know if i agree with this at all no there's a there's a i

00:26:39.860 actually because i got into that after i was reading because we were talking about gay movies because

00:26:44.100 that's this is how this came up and i can't got to lord of the rings this was one of the ones the

00:26:48.740 reddit threads i read was all about how fight club has all these like it's tons of uh undertones like

00:26:55.460 throughout and it was like planting and like boys minds all like in the 2000s or 90s or whenever it

00:27:01.520 came out well we've probably ruined everybody's night here djt 2020 suggests that just all acting

00:27:10.640 in fiction is gay which was kind of what the that is like the true classical take on it you know 0.93

00:27:16.920 the ancient romans considered actors the equivalent of prostitutes basically maybe we need to bring 0.97

00:27:23.740 that back

00:27:24.380 well i mean if we go far enough back to the greeks it was only male actors right so uh

00:27:33.640 that would probably attract a certain type of male even back then

00:27:39.400 oh dear all right all right yeah we need to hit the eject button all right do you guys want to

00:27:45.480 first we'll do an ad but do you guys want to talk about banning banning things on the subway that'll

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00:28:42.760 further all right so as on the right we're all used to making fun of france because it's france but

00:28:50.280 base alert is coming in france uh the french assembly has just passed a bill and it is going to ban

00:28:58.800 repeat incivilities on public transport and so they're they're cracking down on uncivil behavior

00:29:06.800 on the nation's buses and trains which include as possible examples listening to music without using

00:29:15.620 headphones carrying on a phone conversation on speakerphone rather than sticking it up to your

00:29:21.840 ear so people can't hear the other end of it in fact they might even i've seen different interpretations

00:29:27.560 i think in one version they're even suggesting it could just ban having a phone conversation

00:29:31.600 if you're not in like the like if you're on the train rather than on like a platform or something

00:29:36.800 uh also they're going to ban putting your feet onto the seat opposite you when you have like a

00:29:42.640 four pack like that uh and they're also going to ban handing out tracks to people on the subway

00:29:49.200 platform like uh you know like the jehovah's witnesses manuals and stuff and so france is

00:29:54.000 cracking down france is cracking down on annoying behavior on the train so do we have strong thoughts

00:30:01.440 about this everybody does america need the authoritarian crackdown on people listening to music without

00:30:07.880 headphones and why is the answer yes i have thoughts so you have thought yeah andrew you go

00:30:16.840 first no i want to hear the argument as to why the government should be involved in this okay so

00:30:23.560 i i'm not saying that the government should be involved in it which public transport makes it a

00:30:29.320 bigger issue right but i will tell you that i am very in favor of getting rid of like people listen

00:30:35.240 to speakers or you know movies without headphones on planes which is a private company so i i have

00:30:42.200 run into this a lot where people just start talking on phones and they start they start playing clips

00:30:48.040 from social media and i'll be sitting right next to them and i'm just like what's happening

00:30:51.960 were you raised in a barn i find this completely rude i don't know why this is something that needs

00:30:57.320 to be even discussed you should know better you're you know a grown adult that is apparently capable

00:31:03.160 enough to buy a plane ticket please turn that off put some headphones in whatever you got to do

00:31:08.120 so i'm i'm i'm pro direction and by the way as conservatives modern conservatives we are in favor

00:31:14.760 of using government power when it suits the common good uh you know i think sometimes we can get

00:31:20.200 ourselves caught in an ideological trap about freedom it's just like all freedom is good well i don't

00:31:25.800 want to put poison in my hamburgers at mcdonald's so i don't know there is a role for this i i don't

00:31:32.120 know that i have an answer as far as public transport but i will say at the very little

00:31:36.600 at the very minimum it is extraordinarily rude and these people deserve to be mocked scorned and heaped

00:31:42.760 abuse on publicly so i go for a lot of walks and i take my kids for walks especially the more newborn

00:31:51.080 ones and i never use headphones i just listen to my audio books just straight out of the phone

00:31:55.880 so is that should that be regulated if i'm going for a walk on a sidewalk or i'm walking around first

00:32:01.160 of all i don't like the headphones number two i think your pods are actually really dangerous and

00:32:04.920 bad for you that's a whole separate topic and different issue but it's i guess on an airplane

00:32:10.280 i suppose but but hold on if you also have headphones in then does it how does it affect

00:32:16.040 you if somebody else doesn't have headphones in so blake what what is your argument here

00:32:21.560 so i don't know if you guys have if any of you guys have been regular bus riders but when i was in

00:32:27.000 i was in dc i would actually take uh the public bus into uh up to union state or not to union station

00:32:34.760 i would take it to the pentagon and then get on the train and the answer for why it would affect

00:32:38.520 you even if you have headphones is charlie you would be amazed at how loud some people play music

00:32:43.880 or carry on their phone conversations on their phone and so if you really want to be honest i think

00:32:49.080 this is a real a real thing is the reason it might be a good idea to actually have a government like

00:32:55.880 you know to be allowed to crack down on something like that is someone who listens very loudly to

00:33:02.600 music on their phone or on some other device on on a bus on a train is actually probably it's actually

00:33:11.400 a probably big red flashing warning sign that they have like some anti-social tendency that's going to

00:33:17.480 explode because if you are going to like stab you yeah exactly like you know it's sort of it's like

00:33:23.400 broken windows theory applied to like the guy who's going to shove someone in front of a subway train

00:33:28.200 it's like the guy who he like there are people who will play loud music on a subway basically so it's like

00:33:35.960 they're waiting for someone to ask them to turn it down so they can snap at them or it's a way of

00:33:41.640 asserting dominance over other people by making them by making things unpleasant for them for

00:33:47.240 charlie's case i think if you're outdoors if you're in if you're walking on the sidewalk

00:33:51.240 i don't think that matters as much because i mean you can have a literal outdoor you know concert in

00:33:55.800 the park you can put on a play in the park and so you listening to an audio book is you know not

00:34:01.400 is hardly as bad as any of those things so if you're just out on the sidewalk i think it's fine but

00:34:06.520 we definitely have a pattern of people being extremely loud in the enclosed space of like public

00:34:12.440 transport and yes we have video of it how about it looks like we have a couple watching a movie

00:34:17.800 at full volume on a plane let's play 195

00:34:29.480 okay that's outrageous all right you won me over

00:34:35.000 oh that's yeah but you know what this is so let me i think we can pull it down oh that now that

00:34:45.800 is he's just staring back at him mean mugging no it's fine it's just hilarious

00:34:54.280 no it's not fine don't wuss out so here's here's what this is and actually apple has fixed this so

00:35:00.040 if you're a couple on a plane because i've run into this with my wife where one of us has to put one

00:35:03.640 headphone in and the other puts the other headphone in so you can both watch the same thing as you're

00:35:08.760 sitting next to each other on a flight now apple lets you connect two different bluetooth or bluetooth

00:35:14.200 headphone devices it's a it's a innovation that i appreciate but here here's so that so that i kind

00:35:21.000 of understand but it's still there's no excuse but here's what i think if you got like a 90 10 issue

00:35:28.280 that like 90 of normal americans would agree that's extraordinarily rude to watch

00:35:33.080 a phone on full volume in the plane while people are trying to sleep or have conversations or whatever

00:35:37.720 you should be able to regulate that i have no problem with that and and here's the thing if

00:35:42.360 you're not going to do that if they're free to do that and we don't pass a law then we should be free

00:35:46.840 to approach that person and if it gets violent to have no liability on us

00:35:53.720 no i think as long as as long as you can walk in public spaces then i'm good i like lucas mp47 who says

00:36:02.360 riding the bus i loved it when people had private phone conversations on speakerphone i would chime

00:36:07.880 in and make them very uncomfortable no i'm gonna tell you i i listen i i get so annoyed because when

00:36:16.600 i get on a plane i like to sleep the entire time i try to go to sleep before it takes off and wake up

00:36:21.320 when it like literally the plane's landing i that's the best way to fly because i just i hate just sitting

00:36:27.080 there amongst myself because i'm a pacer and i need to walk around and and talk and do all that stuff

00:36:32.920 it is so annoying when people are loud in any kind of way but what about people that smell there i mean

00:36:40.120 i'm telling you the smell issue is that's worse it's worse to me yeah it's i've been in this situation

00:36:47.880 one time where literally this woman who probably hadn't bathed in it seemed like weeks sat down next

00:36:56.360 to me with a cat but that was like in a bag that's right next to me and they like they were like

00:37:02.840 literally sat her right next to me and i was like i thought i was gonna die it was like a four-hour

00:37:07.080 flight was there it was the worst smell i've ever smelled my entire life and i don't even i was you're

00:37:11.880 stuck it's like terrorism it's it's civic terrorism not unlike what we've seen here in maricopa county

00:37:19.480 so would you say the cat was out of the bag it was i couldn't tell if it was the cat or the woman 0.98

00:37:25.560 or a combination of both but i'm telling you it was like pig pen like you could almost see it in

00:37:29.960 the air and to me that's just like and that's the same conversation that they were talking about

00:37:34.920 people are overweight they're splitting over spilling over we had the other ones with feet people like

00:37:39.560 putting their bare feet out i just we have that video play the play the role can we do that as b-roll

00:37:45.160 the person shaving their like feet calluses well oh i saw one of those pictures oh my yeah

00:37:50.920 like i'm sorry but you're off the plane and you get you get handcuffed when you when we get to the 0.56

00:37:56.920 next next destination if we're over halfway gitmo like that's that's beyond the pale that is you

00:38:04.040 you have no you have no common courtesy like that person should be put on a no-fly list

00:38:09.560 well well i found out today that there are airlines that if you pull out those your bear dogs they will

00:38:15.800 kick you off they'll permanently ban you from the airlines what are the airlines delta and spirit

00:38:21.720 and i actually hate it will ban you for that i can't believe it i can't believe spirit is

00:38:27.800 will ban you for anything the spirit like encourages you to fight with people i'm surprised that they

00:38:33.640 they ban you for having your feet up charlie charlie i want to i want to check my my my thought

00:38:39.000 process here with you know back with your your your libertarian leaning early days i think that this

00:38:46.040 is completely this makes complete sense like we are we we we do not need to be afraid to use power

00:38:52.840 when we have a overwhelmingly like positive 90 10 issue yeah maybe there's some like doctrinaire

00:38:59.400 conservative ideas that we're maybe crossing the line here but like this is just common courtesy we talk

00:39:04.840 about this like you know with bullying how like you know we argued back and forth whether or not

00:39:10.760 bullying had some upsides because it's become such a feminized like weak culture like i feel like this 0.54

00:39:16.120 person needs to be bullied this person like with the shaving their foot on the plane obviously has had

00:39:23.560 a lack of bullying in their life got it point received the thing about bullying you've got it

00:39:28.120 the thing about bullying is if you when you can bully someone doing something you're able to do

00:39:36.920 through sheer social sanction you're able to do something through sheer social sanction instead of

00:39:40.920 needing a law to do it no so it's less punitive than when you need the state to come in wait you

00:39:46.840 were just arguing with me blake i put in the chat like a few weeks ago i said that part of the reason

00:39:51.560 why it's society so screwed up is because we we've like we've targeted bullying no but people have

00:39:56.520 like a bad warped idea of what a bully is because they watch too many movies and so they just watch 0.83

00:40:01.400 bullet things where they think a bully is like a guy who would just stuff someone in the locker and

00:40:05.960 then they decided that's based and we need more of it no no we need we need social punishment of

00:40:12.280 genuinely bad behavior instead of what we have now which is social punishment of actually like

00:40:17.000 pro-social behavior now nowadays you mainly get bullied if you like call the cops on someone who

00:40:22.280 you you would get bullied and like lose your job if you tried to argue against someone doing that

00:40:27.400 at least if they fell into one of you know 18 discrete protected categories on the lib hierarchy

00:40:32.920 by the way while we're doing thought crimes related to airports you know what we really need

00:40:38.200 a jihad against what's that people abusing the wheelchairs do you guys know about this

00:40:43.560 so a ton of a ton of airports a ton of airports will basically if you're not mobile or not you

00:40:52.600 know limited mobility they'll basically they'll provide you a wheelchair and they'll wheel you

00:40:58.200 priority through security and you can get on your own plane early as like a priority access and people

00:41:04.120 abuse the crap out of this and they totally do once you start looking for it you see it everywhere 0.83

00:41:10.120 you will see people they all build up to the security line they'll pop up limber as ever 0.91

00:41:15.400 scamper through and you'll see a family you'll see three or four people you'll see two generations of

00:41:20.920 a family on the airplane all in the freaking wheelchairs no and every dog you see on the airplane too is not 0.74

00:41:26.600 like a service dog it's just somebody who's like i'm gonna call it a service dog and i got my service 0.83

00:41:31.160 license or whatever you have to do sort of certification uh i can't stand that because i it's all a con

00:41:38.760 because everybody's too like this is why i think we need to bring up bring back bullying and like

00:41:44.040 social policing and all the things because like there was a time and place where some a-hole tried 0.91

00:41:50.440 to bring their dog on a plane that like you know the guy would have looked over to the dog and been

00:41:55.080 like sorry i'm not gonna i'm not gonna put up with that now listen i like dogs as much the next guy but

00:42:00.120 like it's just gotten out of hand it's gotten out of hand like put the dog down in the uh in the can't

00:42:05.000 they do that like they do that with horses i know they ship horses like overseas and they have like

00:42:09.960 a cargo bin for the the horse you can literally put a horse on like a 747 they have a place to put it

00:42:16.360 if you're trying to ship your horse overseas i think that's what we need to do with dogs most of the time

00:42:20.360 this whole thing where like your dog gets is like beware you know underneath the seat in front of you

00:42:25.320 is crazy uh because some of these people bring in like labradors and uh i was on one plane where there

00:42:31.160 there was a rottweiler luckily it was not in my my my three seat row it was like across the aisle

00:42:37.000 but there was a rottweiler down on the bottom of the seat so that's my rant yeah no they have cracked

00:42:44.520 down on that though if they've really limited because they got like so so crazy out of control

00:42:49.560 with so many dogs now you can only have like certain ones in a certain way and they have to

00:42:53.720 have like way more justification they can't just have like whatever what about on the subway

00:42:58.360 what about like public transit do you know this i haven't taken a subway in long enough that i

00:43:03.080 don't i don't even know i think it's like a free for all on a lot of these wait so hold on i was

00:43:09.160 distracted the subways and the trains that the big the big issue isn't this the subways i think

00:43:16.360 are more packed and i think they have more rules in the big cities the real issue that most of our

00:43:21.880 listeners probably have to encounter are the useless light rail that they've been putting in all these

00:43:27.320 cities like so they have trolleys and light rails that nobody uses except for homeless people oh it

00:43:31.400 was really great they had one in norfolk uh virginia where it was like only two stops and then it was

00:43:37.720 originally free and then they had some of the campaigners were like you guys please add a fee to

00:43:43.080 ride this because it's just it was just 100 it's just a roving homeless shelter uh no that's they just go

00:43:51.320 they just sit on the the training it just goes around the city all day long in most of the cities

00:43:56.600 and they're just hitting they're just doing drugs like in the corner peeing in the corner of the

00:44:01.320 like legit like just like defecating and peeing on the trains and of course like they have dogs and

00:44:08.120 animals and you know there's all sorts of craziness happening fights people stealing stuff from people

00:44:14.760 so no nobody wants to ride it so they spend literally like tens of millions of dollars hundreds

00:44:20.920 of millions of dollars installing these things on all the cities it's like such a farce and nobody

00:44:26.760 actually manages it it's not managed because nobody rides it and nobody cares all right eric 1986 says we

00:44:33.800 used to have dogs in baggage under the plane thank you eric 1986 that's what i thought

00:44:40.120 that's i remember that from yeah movies and stuff uh before we forget it uh we have a special question

00:44:45.960 for charlie if he has any inside information ruron donated ten dollars and asked when do you think

00:44:51.160 brent bozel will be confirmed by the senate so carrie lake can finally be confirmed as director of voice

00:44:56.360 of america i don't know if we have any inside lore on that uh i definitely know democrats have decided

00:45:02.600 two months two months all right that's not so bad but democrats are definitely going maximal clogging of

00:45:10.040 everything uh so uh it's what what's the uh what what do you think the uh the passage rate's going to be

00:45:20.360 now from this this after cash charlie do you think most are going to fly through or what who do you

00:45:26.360 think is the next big battle i think so um i think there will be a fight for some of these undersecretaries

00:45:33.720 in the department of defense i don't think it'll be a big fight but um i think that even though they

00:45:38.440 got headset then there are some people that are against the neoconservative dogma that might be a

00:45:44.600 fight uh there's been some rumbling about people like bridge colby who's amazing by the way

00:45:48.920 um and some of those other ones so that keep an eye on that that have very important jobs in the

00:45:53.800 department of defense uh and then cash should be the really big one the last big one and i think he's

00:45:58.120 gonna i think he's gonna sail through but tulsi and bobby were the big big big ones tulsi bobby

00:46:02.440 hegseth were the the true change makers it's incredible charlie hold on what do you what do you think the

00:46:10.680 proper solution is for public transit so i think you agree on the plane but what do you think about public

00:46:16.840 transit and headphone listening dogs all the different ways people can game it i i i'm with

00:46:24.520 i'm with the french on this i think they're right wow so if anybody has any doubts that charlie is no

00:46:32.920 longer libertarian leaning from like 2018 like yeah but it affects other people yeah yeah it's it's you

00:46:41.880 shall it's the non-aggression principle which is you can do whatever you want to do as long as it doesn't

00:46:45.480 harm somebody else so definitionally if you're listening to a movie on a plane you're harming

00:46:50.040 somebody else no one's saying you can't listen to the movie you just have to do it in a way

00:46:53.720 that doesn't impact the livelihood or the journey in that case of the people around yeah passengers

00:47:01.960 well and the true libertarian viewpoint here is like again you know get create institutions that are

00:47:10.120 where you don't have to be crammed on top of each other and this is also a reminder with like airports

00:47:14.840 and airplanes is that airplanes used to be a lot more spacious like the the advent of you know the

00:47:22.520 the consolidation of all the airlines i believe has led to more cramped less luxurious travel travel

00:47:31.000 in the like i wish i would have lived in a time period when travel was was luxurious when it was like you

00:47:36.600 dressed up i think travel is still luxurious if you are like a rich person who pays a lot of money

00:47:41.800 no you cannot look at an airline today like a plane and see it like there's no one that dresses up

00:47:47.160 intentionally for the flight and this is the other thing this goes back to the tattoo thing people just

00:47:52.520 don't dress up in general like you used to dress up to go outside a lot of the time you know you look

00:47:57.080 at a clip of men out in the street in 1925 and they will be much better dressed than today oh yeah but

00:48:03.480 people like you was it was like a thing to be seen it was like such a it was such a uh a place and

00:48:10.040 then the airlines treated you so much better too i mean think about all of the stewardesses like it 0.91

00:48:15.640 was like an entire cultural revolution that happened in america and they've got like they've gone so far

00:48:21.720 away from that that i think just the lower quality of uh of our airlines and the consolidation and

00:48:27.800 making you know what's an interesting thing i can't remember if we did a thought crime on this or not

00:48:34.440 but typically and traditionally the dogma is that mass deregulation raises the quality uh airlines is the

00:48:43.080 opposite actually uh we teddy ted kennedy led a mass deregulation crusade of the airlines in the 1980s

00:48:52.440 and it resulted in worse air travel more delays a worse experience and not even better prices that's

00:49:00.840 the thing is that there was kind of an advent of cheaper airfare and now that window has closed through

00:49:06.120 mass consolidation uh and mass regulation and look that's probably pan am which my grandfather actually

00:49:11.640 helped run pan am way back in the day and that and look i mean that that was before teddy kennedy

00:49:17.320 decided to just just wreck it all and if you ask anybody over the age of 60 do they look fondly

00:49:25.720 back on how airfare used to be i mean just airlines used to be i mean they'll it's like they're talking

00:49:32.040 about narnia sorry sorry charlie it's amazing i'm gonna call you on this one they actually did get

00:49:38.040 cheaper uh no but not but what charlie's saying is the prices have come back up because of consolidation

00:49:43.480 well prices i mean they they go up and down and also like gas has gotten more expensive so no this

00:49:48.600 is a good point blake so let me ask let me ask somebody a question here so would you rather pay

00:49:53.960 let's just say 700 bucks for a ticket for that experience or 300 bucks for the current experience

00:50:00.200 that's a legitimate question in a heartbeat from la to new york seven i would pay a thousand bucks

00:50:05.960 to not have some cat on me yeah but how much do you make in a year charlie foot scrapings

00:50:11.480 i am a true of course i have the money but your your money i also won't i don't spend money on

00:50:18.040 stupid stuff so i'm just saying even in early days of the career i would put money towards um

00:50:27.720 look at this that's blake airlines right there that he's very supportive of us that's out of 0.98

00:50:33.000 control that is blake that's actually alive i think the great that was a video blake on his way

00:50:39.640 back from the america is that we provided like prosperity to all not to an ennobled few not to

00:50:46.680 an elite few we are the country of we are the country of the model t we are the country of the

00:50:51.560 washing machine like time out blake blake is charlie by spirit airlines confirmed no but charlie's point

00:50:58.440 is really good because the consolidation the the monopolization that came through deregulation

00:51:04.440 and this is the same with the big banks has created an inferior product when you have more

00:51:09.000 airlines you you can have blake's option like a lot more spirits and you can have a lot more

00:51:16.360 you know pan am i think the truth is and we don't have we're now we have all the same

00:51:20.600 airline we're going to show for this because we're going to make it happen the number one thing that's

00:51:23.480 made air travel worse is not airline deregulation it's the tsa that that is by far the worst part of

00:51:29.320 flying is you have to get your cattle car line to go through security i mean it's all

00:51:33.800 the metal detector that sucks i think i think i'm being targeted i think i'm being targeted by 0.72

00:51:39.080 the government every time i go through this the body scanner says i have something i'm carrying

00:51:44.920 something in my crotch region stop doing that i'm not i'm never doing it and they have to pat me 0.91

00:51:49.800 down literally with the back of their hand where you're like every time no i think i mean say there's a 0.65

00:51:54.440 huge mass charlie's laughing but he knows i'm being like picked out and bullied by the government

00:52:00.600 i i'm not telling you every time i go through he's been on the tulsi gabbard list for a while so hold on

00:52:08.120 the the the safe skies list hey put up b-roll 21 211 okay like this i think this is not the

00:52:15.000 point it's not what we're talking about but no no but blake you're wrong it is not that tsa has made it

00:52:20.360 less luxurious or worse we've done this to ourselves and this this this is a little

00:52:27.560 fashion evolution i think is is key like we used to have some standards people used to and now you

00:52:33.080 go on airlines and it's like you're sitting next to somebody in their freaking pjs watching a phone

00:52:37.640 with the speaker on no headphones and they smell and they got wheeled in on a wheelchair that they 0.99

00:52:43.400 didn't need i mean the whole thing is ridiculous like the whole experience is ridiculous 0.99

00:52:48.520 the trash and the food sucks and you get an expired diet coke and you get coffee that could 0.97

00:52:56.520 is indistinguishable from jet fuel and you might get peanuts and like my favorite i mean again i 0.84

00:53:01.960 just don't for the right i have millions of miles of flying right million mile club in america two

00:53:05.960 million miles of america million with united million delta and i always loved when i was flying american

00:53:11.160 where they would act as if uh mr kirk thank you so much for being concierge key and for being a

00:53:15.560 two million mile flyer would you like a cheese tray yeah yes thank you very much appreciate and 0.53

00:53:21.560 i actually would cherish the cheese tray yeah because in this sea of scum i would have a do you

00:53:29.640 save the cheddar cheese do you have the tray in your home like still saver saver not save

00:53:35.560 saver and then i would get my jet fuel coffee my jet fuel coffee and i just i thought that was

00:53:44.440 the greatest thing ever and then i look at this pan am experience and we've been propagandized to

00:53:50.600 believe i mean look at this no it's like prison food thought that this was a bad part of america

00:53:57.480 no charlie's right it's like prison food you're like a prisoner on a plane when i was the crazier

00:54:02.200 part that we haven't even touched on they can keep you trapped in that plane for like seven hours or

00:54:06.680 something like if i bet one time it was like this i know some light goes on in the bathroom and you

00:54:12.360 can't get off the don't even give me start i was on one flight one time it's only happened to me one

00:54:17.720 time where they had no food on the plane and something happened we got stuck on the tarmac for like

00:54:23.640 legit seven hours like it was it was like a seven hour situation got to change that regulation it's not

00:54:29.240 an act of congress they they they should do maximum to three hour waits then you got to go back to the

00:54:33.800 gate but to your point charlie like real food it's like it's like a prison like if you're stuck on

00:54:38.840 a plane even for four or five hours and they're serving you like that dog food that they serve you

00:54:42.600 now it is terrible it is terrible and that and the other thing is this is a real thought crimey thing

00:54:47.880 that we really haven't gotten to if you travel foreign countries they still take pride in the people

00:54:53.000 that they hire like there's in the people that you're just saying that in other countries they

00:54:57.480 hire hot chicks they do all the flight attendants they hide and we have that we have like you know

00:55:01.960 these that was the old pan am way that was yeah no i like that i'm okay with that we can use dei to

00:55:07.960 re-engine getting rid of d by the way the average the average the average flight attendant could be in

00:55:13.320 lord of the rings yes the average flight attendant is uh is definitely on the on that on that uh

00:55:20.680 uh and we've seen jackson on uh looks some of them are gandalfi some of them are very gandalfi

00:55:27.560 long beers you guys are hating on their travel but like i said america's the country hobbits are

00:55:31.800 still fixing their feet in the in the in the aisle yeah they're like no okay so so here's my here's my

00:55:38.760 here's my advice to how we fix air travel it's very simple and everyone loves it you charge 25 more

00:55:44.920 and you get rid of middle seats and you make the whole cabin first class yes

00:55:49.080 yes a whole first class airline yes but that's jsx and it works really well and jsx is very

00:55:57.720 profitable and they sell out and it's all regional out here west if you'll know what jsx it's amazing

00:56:02.760 you can fly from scottsdale to vegas or scottsdale to la and yeah you'd have to charge like 33 more

00:56:09.000 i think there's a huge market for that and then by the way if you want to go be treated like a piece of

00:56:13.160 cattle to go fly from phoenix tampa via con dios fine great you could you could take the bus that's

00:56:20.520 what it's become it's a bus and it's an insult because you fly on these other european airlines

00:56:25.960 or you know fly ll and all of a sudden they have like pride and they love their airline it's like

00:56:31.400 a representation just think about it think about if you're from europe or the middle east and you're

00:56:37.240 flying something called american airlines american airlines so as the name of our country by the

00:56:43.000 way you fly you fly the emirates you fly turkish airlines you fly you know qatar airways you they have

00:56:50.600 like pride in their nation and they're all thin and they're cut and they know what's going on and they

00:56:55.960 love their country and they're a representation and you fly american airlines and it is the sloppiest 0.76

00:57:03.240 slovenly nobody cares the flight attendants won't even look you in the eye it's like they're annoyed

00:57:08.840 that you're there i think it's a bad representation of the country it totally is and now and in general

00:57:15.640 too and and if you've been to the airport in qatar or dubai in doha in doha yeah in doha i'm wondering

00:57:24.040 about charlie's math here because he was saying you can get jsx for 30 percent more i'm looking i'm

00:57:30.120 looking it up right now scottsdale to dallas jsx 360 i can get a flight i could go up to phoenix

00:57:37.000 sky harbor and i could fly round trip to dallas and back 55 55 55 i'm sorry i don't care if the

00:57:49.240 experience sucks frontier spirit but i don't frontier and spirit oh hold on that's not an airline no no

00:57:55.400 no no no no no that's that's amtrak in the air no no no if you were charlie charlie if you don't 0.73

00:58:00.760 think it's amazing spirit you might leave that week charlie if you don't think it's amazing and

00:58:06.760 that i can get into an aluminum tube accelerate it to 700 miles an hour or whatever they go 500 miles

00:58:14.520 an hour and go to dallas and do it all again to come back for 55 dollars you're dodging charlie's

00:58:21.480 anti-american charlie's argument this is what the wright brothers died for is about american

00:58:26.200 the blake doesn't understand no spirit airlines charges you for more than one bag so you only

00:58:31.800 get one carry-on the second one is another 50 bucks if you have a carry-on it's a hundred bucks

00:58:37.240 they charge you for water okay so no so so literally they charge you for water

00:58:43.800 well if you're trying to water why are you going to dallas i think they charge you for a

00:58:47.560 backpack you can't even bring in like some of them do some toilet paper you can't spare a square

00:58:53.880 no they they charge you for everything you can't spare a square and and by the way the clientele of

00:58:58.520 spirit airlines is middle class i was uh i was straight up molested on spirit airlines in my first

00:59:07.560 i'm telling you i i woke i i actually think every movie this is back in the early days of turning

00:59:12.760 point we would all we would almost charlie remembers us we would book everybody on spirit we were we're

00:59:18.280 cost saving all the time until we realized how unsafe it was probably on that flight i got on this

00:59:23.880 flight it was like a midnight flight to chicago and it was i i i got on this flight i'm in middle seat

00:59:31.000 this woman sits down next to me who's drunker than any drunk person i've ever seen on an airline 1.00

00:59:37.000 she should not have been flying they should not have let her on the plane somehow gets on the plane 1.00

00:59:41.240 i've i'm i'm in a jacket because you can't check anything right because it's spirit so i'm

00:59:46.280 literally wearing like a winter coat to to chicago i wake up and this woman has her arms wrapped around 0.75

00:59:52.360 me and like cuddling me the entire flight and now you're married i was married at the time i woke up

00:59:59.160 and i had to push her off me this was like spirit she's like ah she's all this is the type of ride

01:00:05.720 that you have to selectively choose on spirit charlie's point about american airlines is that

01:00:10.600 there's a representation issue that we have here and it's not just american it's all the big airlines

01:00:15.720 and we have no standards whatsoever and you go from writing you know the beautiful airport in

01:00:22.120 qatar and doha that's literally like backlit marble counters when they check your passport

01:00:27.800 to america and it's like literally they like give you the bird when you walk on and like

01:00:32.440 put out a cigarette that is like nothing why are you here airport the airports of america are still just

01:00:37.800 as greasy even if you're flying first class like no yeah but you're not stuck in one place

01:00:43.400 seated the whole time i i chart i listen i have not heard an idea like this much in a long time

01:00:49.400 we need to make american air travel great again all right none of it like yes there's got to be

01:00:55.240 eliminate this whole industry in and by the way the the amount of flights that i've flown in the last

01:01:01.560 year that have been delayed because of mechanical failure or because of some light went on and

01:01:07.000 they got to process the paperwork and they got to bring so and so in from this other outside

01:01:12.600 hangar and then it's like two and a half hours later you're sitting there waiting for the flight

01:01:16.920 to take off and you don't even know if it's going to take off and you're like wrestling with do i try

01:01:21.800 and book on another airline or i'm sick of this some we got to have some standards here and charlie's

01:01:27.160 absolutely right this needs to be uh remedied i think trump would get behind this charlie i think trump

01:01:34.760 would totally agree with i hope so uh i hope so too because i think he gets it he's he's the guy

01:01:40.840 who's like saying our airports need to be a better representation he owned he had trump air for a while

01:01:47.880 he he literally had trump air um but to your point i i mean i've the most recent foreign flight i think

01:01:54.440 i took it was on korean air and these women were like on top of it they were they were making sure you 1.00

01:01:59.400 had everything you needed when you needed it i mean it was a little bit robotic but it was it was

01:02:03.400 impressive and american airlines or delta or whatever's flying abroad we need to be better

01:02:08.440 representations of the american culture well that's the problem too is everyone already like everyone 0.91

01:02:14.840 internationally already thinks we're slobs and disgusting and then they fly on like we have united

01:02:20.600 or american and then they're like oh yeah this is exactly what i expect and i always feel that way 0.69

01:02:26.680 too i'm always kind of embarrassed when i like get to an american airport after international travel

01:02:31.640 because i'm like if i showed up here if i spent all that money to come to like california in my head

01:02:38.760 and like i show up to lax which is literally a third world country it's like it's basically like

01:02:43.720 going to disgusting thing oh yeah it's char i'll never forget one of the funniest moments of my life was

01:02:50.760 charlie kirk at lax we got we had like a crazy uber situation and it was like we got like hijacked

01:02:59.880 it was like crazy but it's like a third world country i i'm embarrassed that like we have these 1.00

01:03:06.040 awful airlines they we show up the airports are awful it's a it's horribly run and then you step outside

01:03:13.400 like in california for example and like that's their first impression of america is like the ghetto of 0.79

01:03:18.840 california which is disgusting and it's just we have to fix all of it and a lot of countries work

01:03:24.760 really hard where it's like your first impression is at the airport it's on the plane it's stepping

01:03:29.960 outside of the airport and if we don't fix that i i mean we're it's not going to help so like that

01:03:35.720 why not now you know this whole renaissance on architecture why not also focus on air travel well

01:03:41.480 we have to demand change when we have power and i'm just saying vibe ships vibe shift starts with

01:03:48.040 us i'll never forget charlie you remember when tucker did this when he went to hungary and he was

01:03:52.840 like the architecture was so beautiful and that started this this like i would say kind of renaissance

01:03:58.520 within conservative intellectual circles saying yeah you know what you're right we need to get our

01:04:02.840 architecture game back on and i think i think it's this is going to filter through where we demand

01:04:07.640 excellence out of our own countrymen and our own industries again i think it's a good thing it's

01:04:12.440 a positive conversation i endorse all right we got about 10 minutes here do you want to uh blake tell

01:04:18.040 us why america's super healthy oh what we're gonna do is uh our i think our fun conversation could be

01:04:24.520 so rfk jr got through today he's now hhs secretary so i thought we could discuss what should our actual top

01:04:32.440 priorities be for making america healthy again because i thought that could spark a good debate

01:04:37.880 because i'm always in disagreement with everyone about what our health issues are and to commemorate

01:04:42.200 rfk getting confirmed uh maybe you've seen me waving this uh hiroshima carp mug around i brought in uh

01:04:49.560 over the holidays uh the seven up company whoever makes them i think they're made by dr pepper anyway

01:04:55.560 they made a shirley temple flavored seven up variety and there is no way that this soda is

01:05:02.200 going to be legal under rfk's regime because i think like the second most common ingredient in it

01:05:07.240 is red 40 so i'm gonna crack this one open to celebrate it it stains everything i put it in

01:05:14.200 red 40s in that red something let me see uh i just bought that i just bought that this last week

01:05:20.200 for the super bowl for my kids red 40 red 40s all over this it's gonna stain the crap out of this mug

01:05:25.560 it's great i i got a strong recommend basically like how is this different than you being like 0.98

01:05:30.680 a crackhead being like bragging about i mean it's you're putting poison into your body

01:05:36.520 okay i guess you're for like legalizing all drugs for kids

01:05:44.680 it's great stuff it's it's very delicious i recommend it no red i i was pulling up all the red 40

01:05:49.640 if and this is the thing so rfk has to this is the this is the scalp that rfk has to get in the

01:05:58.600 first month in order to be successful is red 40 i really believe that if he if he knocks out red 40

01:06:06.440 at what hold on didn't we already do something with red 40 i don't think it's like no i think

01:06:11.160 i didn't did something but yeah at the end of biden's term he tried to like take it oh so wait

01:06:18.040 now we have to protect red 40 because that's me it's not he's drinking it right now like like

01:06:22.520 literally he wouldn't just got that seven up and he's he's literally drinking it's red 40 still around

01:06:26.440 red 40 is all over this one but it red 40 asthma allergies cancer brain damage attention deficit

01:06:34.600 hyperactivity it's all been linked it's like red 40 is probably the base but if rfk actually gets

01:06:41.560 this thing done okay so so no i i agree tyler so blake why don't you uninterruptedly tell us why america

01:06:49.320 is so sick so lethargic so suicidal so overweight so anxious so depressed you don't think it's any

01:06:55.800 the maha stuff so the the burden is on you because the data is objective all those things are happening

01:07:01.160 why honestly if you if i had to guess if you were to say pick one big thing that's like driving

01:07:08.920 huge across the board declines in health outcomes if i had to guess i think it would turn out to be

01:07:15.160 plastics i think my like plastics but it's it's not really it's not nearly as trendy to worry about

01:07:24.200 plastics as it is to worry about no but like the thing about it is like maha is way more obsessed

01:07:30.520 with like the vaccines with like the secret cheat codes in the food and all of that and i actually

01:07:36.360 think like the boring answer is the fact that plastic is totally omnipresent and everything

01:07:41.080 way more it's almost a despair inducing because what are you going to do are we going to get rid of

01:07:46.040 plastic probably not it we use it for everything and when you look at plastics like plastics leach into

01:07:53.400 everything microplastics get into your bloodstream and we don't know exactly what it does but we do

01:07:59.160 know that there is some impact of plastics in your blood on like certain hormonal processes so like

01:08:06.600 over time it's screwing up some of our hormones and the effects of plastic stuff are epigenetic they

01:08:12.840 actually basically alter the your gene expression in your body and that can stack one generation after

01:08:19.560 another so you get 10 messed up by the plastics that 10 is inherited by your kids who get another 10

01:08:26.680 percent and that could easily explain why so many things we see are accelerating like they're

01:08:33.800 continuing over time like the reason i would always criticize people who say i totally agree

01:08:38.840 with that yeah like a lot of the stuff that people blame on like causing you know autism for example it

01:08:44.760 doesn't necessarily make sense because it should be like a light switch where we did this and then

01:08:48.200 it doubled overnight whereas stuff like allergies stuff like autism it's that it's just going up every

01:08:54.280 single year on a pretty linear basis and for something like that to be happening i think you need some

01:08:59.160 sort of constant environmental factor that's like shoving itself in and so it's probably not like seed

01:09:05.720 oils where it's just a constant thing in or or you know this or that shot that people have decided is to

01:09:12.360 blame so i think it's pretty interesting like i think the best use of rfk is if we were to just go all

01:09:20.280 out on let's fund as much study of this as we possibly can let's produce as much science as we possibly can

01:09:27.560 as opposed to what i think a lot of people are tempted to do where they basically want to impulsively

01:09:33.720 ban certain things or you know people want money for this or that thing like there are people who are

01:09:39.960 going to want to use maha to just mean you can use medicare or medicaid to pay for like homeopathic

01:09:45.560 medicine and i think that would be a mistake i don't think we should use taxpayer dollars to

01:09:51.080 buy flavored water for people but it could happen i am i am a big homeop homeopathy but i think you

01:09:59.080 should pay for it yourself i'm a believer that there's a lot more in the natural world that could

01:10:02.440 help you than drugs but but blake one of the the guiding principles of maha is that there is an

01:10:09.080 invisible environmental toxin that is doing something we don't quite know what so you're you're kind of

01:10:15.160 in the thesis then with the plastic thing i'm surprised you're you're kind of within the

01:10:20.440 within the um the genre that there is an invisible an invisible force that is doing something to us

01:10:28.520 we don't quite know what but we have to figure out what that is that that is kind of the core

01:10:33.000 premise of maha yeah i think i i'm not 100 alien to it there's you know there's kind of what i always

01:10:39.800 worry about is there's uh there's a line that is attributed to gk chesterton uh he didn't literally

01:10:45.480 say it but we'll get behind it where it's like an atheist isn't someone who believes in uh nothing

01:10:50.920 it's a person who believes in anything like once you become an atheist you'll just believe in anything

01:10:54.760 and i worry that that is something that can happen with the health stuff in general it's like

01:11:01.400 covet happened it was really disgraceful all the health experts acquitted themselves very badly for the

01:11:07.720 the most part and some people have reacted to that by going they lied to us about that so they're lying

01:11:13.640 about everything and i don't trust the doctors the only person i can trust is you know this this like

01:11:20.760 weird guy i found on the internet and all of that and i would encourage people to be more skeptical of

01:11:28.440 that than they often are because i think it can lead to unfortunate outcomes but i do think it's very

01:11:33.400 real people are right to look at the way things are and say this this isn't normal like kids they

01:11:41.400 actually are not way less active today than they were 20 years ago yet they are fatter than they were

01:11:46.840 20 years ago they are more depressed than they were 20 years ago they are exhibiting weird medical

01:11:52.920 problems we were looking at that article just today that the rate of uh kind of precocious cancers

01:11:58.840 people getting cancer under 50 years old went way way up between 1990 and 2019 and if you're looking

01:12:06.440 at what's the obvious change that happens between 1990 and 2019 i'm not sure there is one and people

01:12:13.720 are just are freaking out about it and i i think they're right to do that but i think the correct

01:12:17.640 focus should be increase our level of knowledge as much as possible as opposed to playing whack-a-mole

01:12:24.120 where we decide oh actually like red 40 is the thing that's going to kill all of us so

01:12:28.520 ban it immediately i mean if they want to i'm sure they will but i don't think it's like it's going

01:12:33.640 to be the kill shot that makes us all healthy i gotta dash everybody rumble.cloud check it out right

01:12:39.400 now thank you guys wonderful episode one of the best ones we've had in recent memory

01:12:43.240 till next week keep on committing thought crimes talk to you soon

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 15, 2025

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