Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 85 — WNBA Race Drama？ Lilo & Stitch？ AI Slop Surge？

00:00:00.220 From the age of Big Brother.

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00:00:18.060 Okay, everybody, happy Thursday.

00:00:19.940 It is Thought Crime Thursday.

00:00:21.240 We are here with Blake.

00:00:22.200 We're here with Andrew and a special guest, Cliff Maloney.

00:00:25.960 Cliff, welcome, my friend.

00:00:27.160 You are the Al Michaels.

00:00:28.200 Welcome.

00:00:29.420 Good to be here.

00:00:30.940 Is Cliff going to be doing the kind of announcing like we did during the election coverage?

00:00:35.660 I still get people that come up to me and talk about how amazing that was.

00:00:40.100 We're going to dive right into it.

00:00:42.100 Apparently, I'm starting a race war in the WNBA. 1.00

00:00:44.660 You've done it again.

00:00:45.540 You've done it again, Charlie.

00:00:46.520 I have a tendency to start race wars. 0.51

00:00:48.320 There is this placid world where there is the Women's National Basketball Association.

00:00:53.100 Of course, a bunch of women always get along. 1.00

00:00:55.600 Yeah, women are known for getting along. 1.00

00:00:57.360 They live in harmony with one another.

00:00:59.060 They definitely never have beefs or arguments or disputes or rivalries or pretty jealousies.

00:01:03.200 Only Charlie Kirk would start.

00:01:04.480 Only you could do it.

00:01:05.840 WNBA was great. 1.00

00:01:07.440 I'm sure all 10 people at their games were having a blast.

00:01:11.180 And then this news story happened.

00:01:15.020 Well, it's been happening for a while.

00:01:17.300 But we can start showing that you reacted to this hard foul.

00:01:22.580 No, it was a lot of them for the record.

00:01:24.840 Okay, there's a lot of things.

00:01:26.200 I'm going to send the one.

00:01:27.200 And by the way, just for the record, my latest tweet is one of my favorite tweets because I didn't run it by any of you guys.

00:01:31.800 It was just called The Scroll and Let It Fly.

00:01:34.160 And then Andrew learns about it once it's up.

00:01:36.280 But yes, keep going.

00:01:37.380 Yes.

00:01:37.700 All right.

00:01:38.100 So I think you've had a couple.

00:01:40.660 So the first one we have, let's do – is this loaded yet?

00:01:45.080 3.98?

00:01:45.740 Right on, right on, right on!

00:01:56.280 So that was called as a violent atrocity on the court.

00:01:59.500 That was Caitlin Cart dribbling, and she sort of brushed her fingertips.

00:02:03.700 Barely.

00:02:04.020 I don't think she even touched it.

00:02:05.840 You know, I think we might need a federal investigation to do the truth.

00:02:09.400 I know.

00:02:09.700 I think we need a hate crime investigation whether she touched her. 0.73

00:02:12.060 Exactly.

00:02:12.920 And so –

00:02:13.860 By the end, I meant the hand, just to be clear.

00:02:15.380 I don't think she even touched her.

00:02:16.640 I mean, it's terrible.

00:02:17.740 Mm-hmm.

00:02:18.660 And then on the flip side, though, we also have – she is getting fouled very aggressively.

00:02:24.360 And so you are also –

00:02:25.620 Brutalized.

00:02:26.100 Yeah.

00:02:26.480 Just brutalized on the court.

00:02:28.220 So we have, you know, fouls get called one way, but not the other way.

00:02:34.320 And it's all getting quite dramatic.

00:02:36.300 And it turns out, really, everything was fine until you stuck your nose into it, Charlie.

00:02:41.080 So what's the headline we have right now?

00:02:43.400 Let me search Charlie Kirk WNBA, as I search every day, but I try to check.

00:02:48.540 It's in the chat, Blake.

00:02:52.620 Yeah, let's see.

00:02:53.500 Charlie Kirk turns Caitlin Clark and WNBA referee controversy into race debate.

00:03:00.640 Race war. 0.70

00:03:01.940 Race war. 0.70

00:03:02.700 So I'm the one who found this article and showed everybody – I found this personally remarkable

00:03:11.660 because the whole Caitlin Clark thing has been nothing but a racial discussion since she got into the – 1.00

00:03:18.500 even when she was in college basketball.

00:03:20.960 It was like, well, of course it has to be a white woman that makes college basketball, women's basketball popular. 1.00

00:03:25.680 The entire saga has been about racial dynamics.

00:03:30.640 And then somehow some jerk out there, some ignoramus, says it's Charlie Kirk that turned it into a race debate.

00:03:37.760 So it's truly remarkable, feet of journalism.

00:03:40.720 I just want to repeat what I also tweeted today.

00:03:42.940 Everyone knows what's happening here.

00:03:44.880 They are jealous because she is the best white player and one of the best players in the WNBA. 1.00

00:03:49.900 And the WNBA is overwhelmingly black women, and they are targeting her because of this. 1.00

00:03:54.940 And on top of that, what they're really mad about is that she's the first WNBA player in probably about 20 years

00:04:02.620 who's been, like, a decently popular national figure.

00:04:05.060 Sue Bird was one, right?

00:04:06.700 Who was the other one?

00:04:08.020 The one who was –

00:04:09.000 Candace Parker.

00:04:09.020 The one who – she was a big name.

00:04:11.240 And, like, it's so dumb, frankly, that it became such a racial thing because the one I was thinking of was Lisa Leslie.

00:04:15.860 Lisa Leslie, when we were growing up, she was a decently famous person. 0.97

00:04:19.060 She got ads on TV.

00:04:21.140 Caitlin Clark's a whole different level.

00:04:22.320 And, of course, one of the things about it is, like, Lisa Leslie was a perfectly wholesome woman.

00:04:27.020 True story.

00:04:27.820 That's why they hate Caitlin Clark. 1.00

00:04:28.320 She took a long time to get married because she had a handful of rules. 1.00

00:04:32.300 It was, you know, she wanted him to be – she wanted to marry another black guy. 0.63

00:04:36.980 She wanted him to be a Christian.

00:04:39.040 And this was the big one.

00:04:40.200 She wanted him to be taller than her.

00:04:42.300 Lisa Leslie was 6'7". 0.97

00:04:44.580 So her kids are going to be very tall.

00:04:46.840 Probably.

00:04:47.200 I haven't followed up on that.

00:04:49.480 But, yeah, so this all happened.

00:04:51.700 But then they got – they legit got mad that this girl was popular.

00:04:56.600 She was a big deal when she was playing – was it Iowa?

00:04:59.180 I don't watch women's basketball. 0.82

00:05:00.220 She was – what, you mean Caitlin Clark played for Iowa.

00:05:02.480 Yeah, and so she was getting all the attention.

00:05:04.440 They were selling out games.

00:05:05.980 It takes a lot.

00:05:06.420 Leading score ever.

00:05:07.320 It takes a lot to sell out a women's basketball game. 1.00

00:05:10.520 It's about at the level of, like, JV high school basketball.

00:05:13.600 Well, that's what they're really upset about is that Caitlin Clark is popular.

00:05:18.980 They're upset that they think they've been carrying this league for so many years, which, by the way, has never been profitable.

00:05:26.840 It's never been a rating success.

00:05:28.640 None of those things have ever been true.

00:05:30.560 But then Caitlin Clark comes around, and people are talking about the WNBA.

00:05:33.860 So all the black ladies are mad. 1.00

00:05:35.040 So this was the statement she gave.

00:05:36.600 So remember, you started this war.

00:05:38.720 But this is the statement she gave in December.

00:05:40.140 Because I sent out one tweet.

00:05:41.060 In December 2024, they named her Athlete of the Year at Time Magazine.

00:05:45.760 And so she said in her interview, she had to issue this statement.

00:05:48.900 I don't have video of it, so I don't know if there was, like, a gun pointed at her head or a flavor, like, holding her family hostage.

00:05:54.200 But she said, I want to say I've earned everything.

00:05:56.660 But as a white person, there is privilege.

00:05:59.340 A lot of the people who have made this league what it is are black women. 1.00

00:06:02.560 And you can't see this, but in the article, they're lower-casing white but capitalizing black, in case you weren't sure, you know, who's good and who's bad here.

00:06:11.060 The more we appreciate, highlight, and talk about that, the better.

00:06:15.460 Brands and companies need to continue investing in those players who have made this league extraordinary.

00:06:21.260 Elevating black women is a beautiful thing. 1.00

00:06:24.900 Yeah, who wrote that for you, first of all?

00:06:27.220 It's like a hostage situation.

00:06:28.820 Yeah, like, we have to check, like, okay, were her eyes blinking in a certain way?

00:06:33.140 Like, please don't hurt me.

00:06:34.780 Please don't follow me any harder on the court.

00:06:37.100 I think that statement was such an opportunity.

00:06:40.140 I mean, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, right?

00:06:42.840 We've all learned this years ago, that if you have nothing to hide and you have nothing to feel guilty of, don't fake apologize.

00:06:50.480 You don't win anything, right?

00:06:52.040 It's the people that hate you already are not going to come around and say, oh, look, they apologized.

00:06:55.620 They put out this statement, and then the people that had some respect because you actually stood up and meant something, well, now you've kind of minimized it, right?

00:07:04.940 It's like some of these comedians, you know, like Bill Burr has kind of gone in the complete opposite direction.

00:07:09.840 But when she put out that statement, I mean, I had so much hope for Caitlin being this person that was, she doesn't have to be political.

00:07:15.160 She doesn't have to be right wing. 0.88

00:07:16.540 But don't capitulate to their talking points, and then everybody's mad at you.

00:07:20.720 It's a lose-lose.

00:07:21.660 I mean, and I just have to say, like, women's basketball is so unwatchable. 1.00

00:07:25.680 I'm sorry.

00:07:26.100 It's just, it is.

00:07:27.720 It's just such a low level of, it's, it just, it's nothing against women. 1.00

00:07:33.120 It's nothing.

00:07:33.600 I mean, they're trying their best.

00:07:35.240 It's just such a, it's really hard to watch.

00:07:39.980 Yeah.

00:07:40.080 Women's basketball is, we should, guys, you got to pull one of those, those montages of just like bad WNBA plays. 0.98

00:07:47.600 Like, I mean, it's real bad.

00:07:50.740 I mean, and to Charlie's point, it, it really does look like you're watching like JV basketball.

00:07:55.960 Now, no offense, there's some really good basketball players that are women, Caitlin Clark being one of them. 1.00

00:08:00.640 But there are good sports that women play that are actually watchable. 1.00

00:08:05.220 Tennis, volleyball.

00:08:07.220 Blake maybe disagrees with me, but it's based on the look.

00:08:10.300 There's, there's a few that are actually watchable.

00:08:13.280 I'll stand by that.

00:08:14.840 Gymnastics is pretty good.

00:08:15.860 Gymnastics, I think that high level Olympic gold medal match women's volleyball, not, not beach volleyball, actual like volleyball is very good to watch.

00:08:27.700 That, that, that is very intense, very high stakes balls moving super fast.

00:08:32.380 Like that is very athletic.

00:08:34.000 That's actually, I think, I actually think it's more watchable than the men's volleyball because the men's volleyball, they are so athletic.

00:08:40.940 Like the ball, it's like whoever gets the ball has like very high probability just to spike it because they're so athletic where women's volleyball, like insane injuries. 1.00

00:08:50.460 No, that's right.

00:08:51.020 Don't you agree, Andrew?

00:08:51.840 Like the men's volleyball has no volley.

00:08:53.700 It's just there.

00:08:54.340 Yeah.

00:08:54.520 It's, it's, it's, it's, they're almost too likely to just totally kind of side out instantly.

00:08:58.520 Yes.

00:08:59.000 And then, yeah.

00:08:59.920 And, and, and whoever's got control of the, of the ball, I actually really agree with that.

00:09:03.620 And it's a little bit more competitive with women's volleyball. 0.83

00:09:06.160 Yes.

00:09:06.500 But by the way, the, I remember when the U S women's national team was winning world cups,

00:09:11.700 right?

00:09:12.000 I mean, uh, that was, that was really fun as a nation.

00:09:15.600 We were really into that right before, before all the politicization of it.

00:09:19.660 That's true.

00:09:20.060 I remember.

00:09:20.580 I just, I, I, I, women's soccer is fine. 1.00

00:09:23.280 I mean, it's not my favorite to watch women's tennis, but there's something about women's basketball where it's such an aesthetic drop off.

00:09:30.120 I don't mean aesthetic in a bad way, but it's such a visual drop off from the pace and the passing and the shooting and the skill of men's basketball.

00:09:38.880 It's like your brain can't process it.

00:09:41.520 You know, it's so different.

00:09:42.880 You're like, okay, this is sophomore boys basketball.

00:09:45.320 And basically, why do you guys like, I actually enjoy when a college women's basketball, I feel like so much more than I do pro.

00:09:54.160 I'm still not saying I prefer women's basketball over men's, but like, what do you think the drop off is once?

00:09:59.500 I mean, do you guys disagree with that?

00:10:01.700 Like, do you, you know, can you watch the final four on the women's side?

00:10:05.220 Like, I look at that as a completely different ball game than the, I mean, look at these montages.

00:10:10.120 Like, I watch these for fun.

00:10:11.900 They are so horrific.

00:10:13.380 I don't know how anybody could pay money to be at these games.

00:10:15.920 Well, people tend to not pay money to be at those games, which is why it's been kind of a failure of a league.

00:10:21.660 And Caitlin Clark's the best thing they have going for it.

00:10:24.000 I don't know what it is about basketball.

00:10:26.340 She makes shots that men couldn't make, but also, guys, remember, sorry, keep going, Andrew, and then I have a point.

00:10:31.680 Well, I just don't understand, I don't know what it is specifically about the sport of basketball that tends to make the female form look uncomfortable.

00:10:38.820 Now, I, candidly, you watch Caitlin Clark, and she looks kind of like a dude on the basketball. 1.00

00:10:44.840 No, I mean, look at that, that right there, that's legit.

00:10:47.740 Yeah, she does.

00:10:48.700 But, like, there's something specific about that.

00:10:52.100 I actually really enjoy female college softball. 1.00

00:10:57.260 I had some friends that got me into it.

00:10:58.760 You know what? More watchable than I thought when I was working out.

00:11:01.400 No, and they do these cheers, and it's really fun.

00:11:03.080 I think you're right.

00:11:03.760 I actually think, I mean, softball is not, I wouldn't go out of my way to watch it, but, you know.

00:11:09.060 I'm going to get in some trouble with our audience, potentially, on this, but female UFC fights, I know that's, like, complicated. 1.00

00:11:16.040 Those women are amazing. 1.00

00:11:17.500 Like, some of those fights are incredible.

00:11:19.360 Whether or not you want your daughter to be doing that, that's a whole other topic.

00:11:22.880 But just pure entertainment value, those fights are incredible.

00:11:25.640 This is like nothing, for whatever reason, though, basketball is just not the female domain, in my opinion. 1.00

00:11:32.180 Well, remember, also, women's basketball uses a smaller basketball than men.

00:11:36.340 I mean, it's literally a different sport.

00:11:39.060 I mean, where the ball is 28 1⁄2 inches, where the men's ball is much bigger than that.

00:11:44.620 And I was just trying to think of other sports that I wouldn't, I don't watch any of them, but that are more watchable than female basketball. 0.86

00:11:52.580 No, I don't watch golf.

00:11:53.920 Nah, I can't watch women's golf either. 1.00

00:11:56.320 Did you know there used to be, like, an alternative basketball for women? 1.00

00:11:59.080 Wasn't it, like, six on six?

00:12:00.100 It was six on six, and it was very strange.

00:12:03.220 Like, you had three forwards and three defenders, and only, like, the forward people could shoot.

00:12:09.460 And then there was all this bizarre stuff.

00:12:12.360 I think you, like, couldn't dribble as much, something like that.

00:12:16.840 It was all...

00:12:17.380 In fact, we have to talk about how can we change the game to make it entertaining.

00:12:21.100 It tells you how not entertaining it is.

00:12:23.120 I guess gymnastics.

00:12:24.620 I'd actually prefer watching women's gymnastics than men's gymnastics.

00:12:27.600 Really, though?

00:12:28.240 Like, men's gymnastics is really impressive if you watch it.

00:12:31.080 I have to think about that.

00:12:32.220 No, I think you're probably...

00:12:33.080 Well, it's pretty watchable.

00:12:35.060 People love watching it for the Olympics.

00:12:36.720 I would say it's pretty watchable, though.

00:12:38.560 I'd say women's gymnastics is pretty watchable. 1.00

00:12:40.600 It rates on the Olympics.

00:12:41.620 It rates during the Olympics.

00:12:42.540 And I'll also say that women's track and field is watchable.

00:12:45.880 Yep, I agree.

00:12:46.700 Women's figure skating.

00:12:48.080 Yep, for sure.

00:12:49.020 I actually think it's more watchable than men's figure skating.

00:12:51.620 It's just way too...

00:12:53.620 There's something about tight pants.

00:12:56.400 I'm going to say men's figure skating is very San Francisco.

00:13:00.420 I suppose so.

00:13:01.460 I mean, it's usually pairs, isn't it?

00:13:03.020 That's what I mean.

00:13:03.440 It's culturally very...

00:13:05.620 Culturally.

00:13:07.340 It's a cultural issue.

00:13:08.740 Let's just say it's not exactly...

00:13:12.040 You know what I mean.

00:13:14.120 Oh, I guess that also women's swimming. 1.00

00:13:15.960 I mean, that's fine to watch.

00:13:17.580 Like, Katie Ledecky was fun to watch during the Olympics. 0.99

00:13:19.680 It's just fun to watch your country win in the Olympics.

00:13:22.860 But, like, you wouldn't sit down and watch, like, on a Saturday.

00:13:26.080 No, but I tried to watch the women's, like, gold medal match in basketball, which I think we won.

00:13:30.760 It was like, wow, that was hard to watch.

00:13:32.640 Like, oof.

00:13:33.800 I'm surprised you spent time doing that, Charlie.

00:13:36.180 Well, I like the Olympics.

00:13:37.180 I love it.

00:13:37.540 I watched it for about 45 seconds.

00:13:39.480 And then I went and did something more mean.

00:13:40.600 He was prepping to get this race war started. 0.95

00:13:43.200 Yeah, apparently it's all my fault.

00:13:44.840 So, Blake, what would you say to someone that says, because I got some mean tweets from people.

00:13:50.000 Oh, yeah, I really care.

00:13:50.980 It's not racial against Caitlin Clark.

00:13:53.320 Come on.

00:13:54.160 There's other white women in the NBA or WNBA. 1.00

00:13:57.540 I mean, all I would say is I don't think we were the first ones to start, like, using the W word or the B word in relation to this.

00:14:06.680 Like, there really is a thing where you started getting these articles, like, while she was still in college, about people just bothered that she was getting too much attention or that it was, like, they would use the language, like, colonialism.

00:14:20.560 They were, like, how this, like, white person is colonizing our league.

00:14:24.360 Like, they have ownership of this sport.

00:14:27.320 And, like, that is where so much of this came from.

00:14:32.700 Now, and then, like, other elements where, like, they were mad.

00:14:36.680 Oh, they're promoting Caitlin Clark because she, like, is, like, more clean cut. 0.94

00:14:42.200 Like, she has a boyfriend, so she's not a lesbian like a lot of the players in the WNBA are. 1.00

00:14:47.820 I think she's Catholic or, like, public.

00:14:49.960 Like, she has a good image, basically. 0.70

00:14:51.740 And it's like, oh, okay.

00:14:52.620 Yeah, leagues do better when they have people who have, like, positive, like, images that are, like, families like it.

00:15:00.380 To give you an idea.

00:15:00.980 Make your daughter like Caitlin Clark.

00:15:02.580 Do you know 26% of the WNBA is openly lesbian?

00:15:05.880 That is a very high rate.

00:15:07.920 That cannot be true.

00:15:09.060 It is.

00:15:09.460 What percent?

00:15:10.620 26%.

00:15:11.740 That means it's probably closer to, like, 35% or 40% in real life.

00:15:16.780 Now, and here's the other one.

00:15:17.960 According to innerbasket.com, they say it's between 30% to 58%.

00:15:22.960 See?

00:15:25.320 That's, like, a very wide range.

00:15:27.500 It's because they're approximating.

00:15:29.000 It's still high.

00:15:29.760 Yeah, I don't think they send out surveys.

00:15:31.740 Well, why not?

00:15:32.680 We should collect more data on that.

00:15:33.980 We should just be like, oh, you gotta, every time, every, if you enter the WNBA, you have to answer a million questions. 0.95

00:15:39.340 Remember when Brittany Griner, who got released from prison thanks to Trump, appeared to call.

00:15:44.940 Biden.

00:15:45.780 Well, was it Biden or Trump?

00:15:47.120 Yeah, it was Biden.

00:15:48.020 Oh, we traded some massive international terrorists for her. 1.00

00:15:51.160 That's right.

00:15:51.720 Yeah.

00:15:52.560 She called Caitlin Clark effing white girl. 1.00

00:15:56.900 Could you imagine?

00:15:57.440 She's called trash and effing white girl. 1.00

00:15:59.080 I feel like, yeah, if someone said effing black girl about a player in the WNBA. 0.99

00:16:02.460 We would have Minneapolis burn.

00:16:04.160 Yeah, like, Minneapolis would burn.

00:16:05.640 It would be the number one news story.

00:16:08.140 That person would be deleted off the face of the planet.

00:16:10.680 And there would be a federal hate crime investigation.

00:16:12.500 Quite possibly, yeah.

00:16:14.080 Really?

00:16:14.480 Especially under Biden.

00:16:15.340 And we'd get one of those, like, civil rights cases where they would, like, go into the entire WNBA and find how there was, like, systemic discrimination that led to this outcome.

00:16:24.840 Which is actually, circling back around, that's how that six-on-six basketball went away.

00:16:29.260 It didn't go away because people, like, organically didn't like it.

00:16:33.120 It went away because activists were mad and they got, I'm not making this up, the Office of Civil Rights at either the DOJ or the Department of Education to say it was a violation of Title IX to have girls play this sport. 1.00

00:16:47.900 Because they were less likely to get a scholarship for basketball at the college level.

00:16:53.940 Unbelievable.

00:16:54.380 So, like, they've been, if it helps, they've been inventing extremely deranged and insane civil rights justifications for everything they want to do for half a century.

00:17:04.040 Well, Blake, I have a question for you.

00:17:06.000 Why is the WNBA still afloat? 1.00

00:17:08.820 Like, who's covering the losses?

00:17:10.740 I think they're a subsidiary of the NBA.

00:17:13.400 Like, there's a direct relationship between the two.

00:17:15.940 Let me tell you, there was this great article.

00:17:17.900 Written in 2018 by an activist, Tho Bishop, and he got just destroyed for it.

00:17:24.120 It was, like, why WNBA players are overpaid, right? 0.99

00:17:27.700 And this is 18, right?

00:17:28.820 Like, this is, you know, before, like, we got our country back.

00:17:31.180 I mean, that was, you know, we had Trump in the White House, but, like, the woke was really coming on.

00:17:36.020 And it's just funny because, yeah, he details, listen, the NBA is just paying these people, right?

00:17:41.000 If you look at the revenue that comes in, it's not just that they take a loss.

00:17:44.520 It's that the NBA just doesn't want to deal with the pushback from the activists, and so they just float the bill for this.

00:17:50.620 I mean, there's a reason they never take the camera angle and take it to the crowd.

00:17:55.900 I mean, look at the angles on those games.

00:17:57.960 They are, it's like Congress, right?

00:17:59.580 They keep the angle so you can't see you're in an empty room.

00:18:02.100 But the NBA is paying for all of this.

00:18:05.440 So, according to this, the revenue for the WNBA was $200 million in 2023. 0.68

00:18:16.700 It's now $710 million, and it will break a billion this year because of Caitlin Clark.

00:18:22.920 She has contributed to a 48% increase in attendance and record-breaking TV ratings.

00:18:27.900 You know how people say that, like, they don't recognize the country they live in due to, like, social changes or immigration or whatever?

00:18:34.440 That's how I feel when I hear a story like that.

00:18:36.760 Could you imagine sitting at home and voluntarily watching the WNBA?

00:18:40.460 You know, there's a question I like to ask, which is...

00:18:42.840 And not having a relative.

00:18:43.720 I like to ask people this.

00:18:45.580 Would you rather find a $2 bill on the sidewalk or have your local WNBA team win a title? 0.99

00:18:55.500 I don't know my local WNBA team.

00:18:58.160 That is the correct answer is I don't know if Ice Town has a WNBA team. 1.00

00:19:02.060 I don't even...

00:19:04.800 Wait, hold on.

00:19:05.100 Let me see.

00:19:05.820 What is Phoenix WNBA team? 1.00

00:19:09.840 Probably some weird name, like the Cactus or something.

00:19:12.720 Or the Sky.

00:19:14.160 The Mercury.

00:19:15.300 Phoenix Mercury.

00:19:16.560 Okay.

00:19:17.020 They're off to a...

00:19:17.740 Did you say it?

00:19:17.940 Mercury?

00:19:18.640 Yeah.

00:19:19.480 Mercury.

00:19:20.760 There you go.

00:19:22.080 They're off to a 4-1 record despite the absence of key player Kalia Copper.

00:19:28.840 Is that true, or could that be, like, a hallucination by an AI?

00:19:32.060 It could be.

00:19:33.020 I don't know.

00:19:34.440 You know what I think?

00:19:35.160 This is a case of they...

00:19:36.780 You know, you have a small pond, right?

00:19:38.660 And all these big-time stars before Kalia gets there, they want a big pond, right?

00:19:43.400 They want this huge...

00:19:44.720 She brings them the big pond.

00:19:46.760 They're still a small fish.

00:19:48.160 I mean, it's just a total, you know, backlash to that.

00:19:51.220 So what do you do?

00:19:52.360 You foul her hard. 0.90

00:19:53.720 Did you know that?

00:19:54.200 And you call her white trash. 1.00

00:19:55.240 There's only 13 teams.

00:19:56.540 That bothers me because it's, like, not even.

00:19:59.260 I kind of love how feminine they've chose these names.

00:20:02.200 They're, like, not that...

00:20:03.600 You know how in the men, it's like the Golden State Warriors or the Timberwolves.

00:20:07.680 Let's listen to some of these.

00:20:08.960 The Atlanta Dream.

00:20:10.980 The Chicago Sky.

00:20:13.200 The Connecticut Sun.

00:20:15.600 You ready for an intense one?

00:20:17.120 The Indiana Fever.

00:20:18.680 New York Liberty.

00:20:22.000 The Washington Mystics.

00:20:25.260 Here we go.

00:20:25.980 The Dallas Wings.

00:20:28.240 The Las Vegas Aces.

00:20:30.480 The Los Angeles Sparks.

00:20:33.460 Blake, I will give you $100 if you get the name the Minnesota WNBA team.

00:20:38.980 You know, what's going to be really terrible?

00:20:41.620 I do know the Minnesota WNBA team.

00:20:42.940 No, what is it?

00:20:43.900 Minnesota Lynx.

00:20:44.760 Sorry, I'll give you $100.

00:20:46.140 Why in Seattle?

00:20:46.840 I did this to humiliate you.

00:20:48.700 Because I...

00:20:49.660 How dare you know this?

00:20:51.180 Because being a dork, I would read the newspaper every day growing up, and I would check, like,

00:20:56.200 they had, like, this big detailed sports thing, and I knew I would look at what the frickin'

00:21:01.820 WNBA thing. 0.59

00:21:02.080 You should have said, see, you want money more than you want your honor.

00:21:05.660 This is shameful.

00:21:06.720 I have just graced myself.

00:21:07.240 This is a Seattle Storm.

00:21:08.460 That's a pretty good one.

00:21:09.320 Yes, but just for the record, Blake could have pretended like he didn't know, but he wanted

00:21:13.100 that $100.

00:21:13.900 I did.

00:21:14.800 I did.

00:21:15.200 And then the Seattle Storm, and then the Golden State Valkyries. 0.80

00:21:18.800 You see, if you'd asked me that one, I wouldn't have known.

00:21:21.140 I asked you, Ms.

00:21:21.860 Valkyries is a pretty good, like, women's sports team name. 1.00

00:21:25.000 That's good.

00:21:25.260 Because it's like, it is a women thing that is cool. 1.00

00:21:28.240 But Atlanta Dream.

00:21:29.760 Atlanta Dream.

00:21:31.120 Philadelphia is not on the list.

00:21:32.780 I don't know the answer.

00:21:33.620 You tell me they're not listed.

00:21:34.440 Is it Seoul?

00:21:35.180 Is it Seoul?

00:21:36.200 That sounds like it.

00:21:37.260 They don't have one.

00:21:38.160 They don't have one.

00:21:38.980 Okay.

00:21:39.400 No.

00:21:39.980 Lucky you.

00:21:41.040 But the Connecticut Sun.

00:21:43.860 Connecticut Sun.

00:21:45.800 It's like the least sunny place.

00:21:47.020 As opposed to the Phoenix Suns, which is plural and therefore cool.

00:21:50.260 It's just the Sun.

00:21:50.560 They're just like one thing.

00:21:51.820 They're the Sun.

00:21:52.360 One Sun.

00:21:53.680 Tonight, we're going to go watch the Sun play.

00:21:56.100 How awful is that?

00:21:57.300 That's like a thing they do now.

00:21:59.140 Like, in the NHL, the two new teams they've added, they added the Seattle Kraken.

00:22:04.500 Not Krakens.

00:22:05.500 Just Kraken.

00:22:06.520 And then now Salt Lake got, they actually got the Phoenix Coyotes team that they disbanded.

00:22:10.980 And they're just mammoth.

00:22:12.700 They're the Utah mammoth.

00:22:14.200 So, maybe I'm wrong because I was a huge Blackhawks fan growing up.

00:22:18.840 Has the NHL popularity gone down?

00:22:20.740 I think it has.

00:22:21.760 I mean, I was really into the NHL because it was huge.

00:22:24.660 I mean, Blackhawks fever took over.

00:22:26.220 And we won three Stanley Cups and it was incredible.

00:22:30.240 But I feel like the NHL has gone down too.

00:22:32.880 It's actually done okay.

00:22:33.640 What's happened is, I remember growing up, they were really bad in the Sun Belt.

00:22:38.780 And now they've kind of gotten over that.

00:22:40.360 So, for example, in Tampa, the Tampa Bay baseball team does pretty horribly in terms of attendance.

00:22:47.120 The Tampa Bay Bucs are at the low end of NFL team popularity.

00:22:52.660 But the Tampa Bay Lightning, which is their NHL team, sells out their games, has won titles.

00:22:58.660 They do pretty well.

00:22:59.380 And that's kind of been who's dominating because I think the Nashville team does well.

00:23:06.280 And I think there's also one in Miami.

00:23:08.160 And the Carolina one, they've all done really well.

00:23:10.460 In fact, pretty much the only Sun Belt hockey team that was a dumpster fire and nobody liked going to them was...

00:23:15.660 They're our team.

00:23:18.600 Oh, really?

00:23:19.160 Yep.

00:23:19.460 They folded and they moved to Utah.

00:23:21.500 So, Charlie, you're right, though.

00:23:23.880 Regular season games like viewership were about half a million in 2014 to 2015.

00:23:30.120 And they've dropped to 385,000 between 2019-2020.

00:23:36.360 This article is from 2023.

00:23:38.720 And it's changes in media consumption, regionalization of NHL broadcasts, low scoring, lack of star power, and they say COVID-19 impact.

00:23:47.860 Let me tell you why it's also dropping.

00:23:50.620 I'm a season ticket holder for the Flyers, and they're horrible.

00:23:53.560 So, I don't usually admit that in public.

00:23:55.000 But I've had them for three or four years, and I actually just dropped them because after we won the election, hockey, which, you know, if you look at the demographics, I mean, in most of the cities, the people that are coming, it's a pretty conservative crowd.

00:24:08.660 I mean, some cities, it's just not going to be because of the cities, but, like, it's pretty red.

00:24:13.240 And after we won the election, Gritty, our great mascot, goes on ice with a trans flag, like during Pride Day. 0.91

00:24:21.740 And it was just, like, so tone-deafed, and I, like, flipped out.

00:24:25.520 I'm like, look, I'm paying all this money.

00:24:27.500 I had an activist with me who's obviously right wing, and we're sitting there, like, having to deal with this.

00:24:32.700 I think they're, like, one of the last leagues.

00:24:34.800 Oh, they're moving slowly, some of them, but, like, they just double down and don't understand their audience.

00:24:39.840 It's pretty bad.

00:24:41.120 And it really just kind of goes to show how popular football is.

00:24:44.540 I mean, it just dwarfs these other sports.

00:24:47.440 I mean, it's not even close.

00:24:49.700 I mean, I'm told the Thunder are in the NBA Finals.

00:24:55.800 Isn't that, like, Russell Westbrook?

00:24:57.680 Oh, he's gone now.

00:24:58.940 I think he's still in the league, but he's not with the—

00:25:01.340 Is Kevin Durant on the Thunder?

00:25:02.820 No, no, you're way out of date, man.

00:25:04.560 I think—I don't even know where Durant is.

00:25:06.140 Isn't he on the—he's on the Suns, isn't he?

00:25:08.480 I stopped watching 10 years ago.

00:25:10.580 Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Charlie.

00:25:11.720 You're about 10 years out.

00:25:13.360 Yeah.

00:25:13.880 I can't name a single NBA player on the Thunder.

00:25:17.440 Yeah, okay, I want to respond, so we are—so Patty Luke in our chat says,

00:25:22.840 Nothing like four men who don't play sports going after the WNBA. 0.80

00:25:26.420 You guys have no business bashing these women who would clean your clocks if you had the— 1.00

00:25:31.440 For the record, let me just tell you, if I could get my back fixed, which I'm very hopeful I have a procedure,

00:25:36.220 I could beat some WNBA players one-on-one. 1.00

00:25:39.320 Not all.

00:25:40.560 I could.

00:25:41.080 I could challenge the bottom 25% of WNBA players. 0.88

00:25:46.360 The bottom 25%. 0.87

00:25:47.680 If I could get my back fixed and I have three months of proper preparation, I could beat them one-on-one.

00:25:53.120 You think I'm joking.

00:25:55.000 I'm 6'5".

00:25:56.140 I played competitive Midwest AAU basketball.

00:26:00.500 I was really good at basketball, too, by the way, just for the record.

00:26:03.540 Again, I'm taller than the bottom 25%.

00:26:06.820 If I have—again, the problem is my back is a complete—and you guys know, you could attest to me, my back is a catastrophe.

00:26:12.120 No, what I would say—

00:26:13.020 CK, the internet used to think you were only 6'1".

00:26:15.500 Glad we got that clarified.

00:26:16.340 We fixed that problem, okay?

00:26:17.900 Actually, you know what?

00:26:19.500 Daisy, if you go to my Instagram, like, seven or eight years ago, there's all these tricks—you know I used to do trick shots on Instagram?

00:26:25.380 I've seen the reel.

00:26:26.500 Yeah, right?

00:26:27.160 There was, like, a montage.

00:26:28.520 Yeah, no, not just the high school ones.

00:26:30.220 I used to do, like, trick shots, or I would just do half-court shots and make it on the first attempt.

00:26:35.480 Dave, we should play some.

00:26:36.940 Go ahead.

00:26:37.360 And by the way, just—I'm not trying to, like—but dear Patty, I mean, I was a first-team All-State football player.

00:26:43.260 Boom.

00:26:43.420 Oh, here we go.

00:26:44.660 Yeah, like, I don't go around saying that, but if she's going to come at me, bro—

00:26:48.280 I need the highlight reel of Colvette.

00:26:50.060 Actually, I did have one, but, like, I'm—you know, it's—I don't know what happened to it.

00:26:54.960 Did you guys win State?

00:26:56.760 We run her up in State.

00:26:58.620 Why didn't you play college football?

00:27:01.200 I actually went out for one day.

00:27:04.060 It's complicated.

00:27:04.980 I went out for one day, though, at UW Open Field.

00:27:07.980 You could have walked on.

00:27:08.920 No, the coaches found out.

00:27:10.300 Like, I didn't actually think I was going to play in college.

00:27:11.940 I had no desire, but they found it on my sort of application or whatever, and they invited me out for an open field day.

00:27:18.060 And it was like—I forget the guy's name.

00:27:20.240 It was Isaiah something or other.

00:27:21.720 Anyways, he was like a five-star recruit.

00:27:23.900 He's a wide out.

00:27:25.100 And, like, he happened to be out there one day, and I got lined up, you know, beside him, and I was playing cornerback.

00:27:31.820 And the guy just flew by me by about, you know, 10 miles per hour faster than me, and I was just like, yeah, it's not going to happen.

00:27:37.600 What's the point?

00:27:38.920 Like, what's the point?

00:27:41.120 But—

00:27:41.240 Yeah, and tell—

00:27:42.200 High school level, I was good.

00:27:43.500 She's striking out.

00:27:44.500 I was a collegiate golfer.

00:27:45.740 I never talk about that.

00:27:47.520 Might have been D2.

00:27:48.760 Might have got a couple thousand bucks.

00:27:50.280 But, yeah, we're not talking to no athletes here.

00:27:53.060 Yeah.

00:27:53.820 And Blake can bench, like, 300 pounds, Patty. 1.00

00:27:57.320 Little known fact, Blake can actually bench with the best of them.

00:28:01.080 It's true.

00:28:02.300 Blake has—

00:28:02.760 He lasted longer than Shane Gillis.

00:28:05.120 He lasted two hours on the Notre Dame football team.

00:28:08.060 Or, excuse me, was it West Point?

00:28:09.440 He wanted to go to Notre Dame.

00:28:10.900 But he lasted two hours on the football team and quit college.

00:28:14.320 But, yeah, anyway, even if we couldn't beat the WNBA players, it is noteworthy that we don't have the NBA subsidizing us for millions of dollars a year.

00:28:22.920 Correct.

00:28:23.400 To go play basketball.

00:28:24.440 And we justify our own existence here.

00:28:26.100 Yes, and yes, we are self-sustainable.

00:28:29.060 And so, I do think we should make this happen, though.

00:28:31.820 Like, we should probably—we're going to get your back fixed.

00:28:34.080 I got to get my back surgery done.

00:28:35.120 We have to go find—like—

00:28:36.300 And then I need three months to prepare.

00:28:38.220 And then we find some, like, someone recently cut from a WNBA team, maybe.

00:28:41.780 Yes, and I will pay her a ton of money just to do it, and we'll film it, and we'll see if I win.

00:28:47.320 So, what will we do if—

00:28:50.320 If I lose?

00:28:50.760 I don't want to say it's likely, but what if we lose bad?

00:28:55.380 I mean, again—

00:28:57.320 Who did—

00:28:58.080 I'm six foot five.

00:28:59.080 I'm not going to lose bad, okay?

00:29:00.900 Who did Ted Cruz, like, play basketball with?

00:29:03.860 Was it a—was it Jimmy Kimmel?

00:29:06.180 Somebody on the left.

00:29:07.380 And it was, like, the most cringeworthy thing to watch.

00:29:10.440 Yes, I remember this.

00:29:14.540 I think it was Kimmel.

00:29:15.860 I could be wrong.

00:29:16.700 Yeah, it was probably Kimmel.

00:29:19.820 Let me see.

00:29:20.580 I'm trying to find this.

00:29:22.640 Jimmy Kimmel.

00:29:23.440 Ted Cruz outlasts Jimmy Kimmel in grueling blobfish basketball in Texas Tribune.

00:29:30.080 Oh, my gosh.

00:29:31.160 This is hilarious.

00:29:34.760 All right.

00:29:35.280 We're going to find my old trick shots, but okay.

00:29:38.680 Epstein.

00:29:39.460 All right.

00:29:40.020 So, this has been—

00:29:41.880 Can you believe how long ago this happened?

00:29:43.940 So, Epstein died almost six years ago now.

00:29:46.960 It feels like time has flown.

00:29:48.200 Anyway, obviously, a lot of people are very committed to this.

00:29:51.740 A lot of people have very strong opinions on it.

00:29:54.660 Now, the FBI—and this is not Biden's FBI.

00:29:57.920 This is—this is Trump's new FBI.

00:29:59.980 They're coming out, and they're saying Epstein actually did kill himself,

00:30:03.640 and they say they have video evidence to prove it.

00:30:06.320 Let's play it.

00:30:06.600 Play cut 341.

00:30:10.380 There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case,

00:30:15.020 and there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly.

00:30:17.960 We are working through some—there is video.

00:30:20.720 That is something the public does not—

00:30:22.980 There's a video of him killing himself.

00:30:24.240 No, no, not—not the actual act.

00:30:26.780 We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced—

00:30:29.620 And we're going to give the original so you don't think there were any shenanigans.

00:30:33.000 You're going to see there's no one there but him.

00:30:35.420 Right.

00:30:35.680 There's just nobody there.

00:30:38.940 I trust Dan completely.

00:30:40.740 It's still a—it's still a tough pill to swallow.

00:30:43.120 Yeah.

00:30:43.540 I'm just going to be honest.

00:30:44.220 Like, I trust Cash and Dan.

00:30:46.460 I want to see what they're looking at.

00:30:47.740 It just—it does seem too clean.

00:30:50.180 And I would say, I think we should be open to—

00:30:52.920 There's conspiracies that you could embrace that don't require someone to have murdered him.

00:30:56.960 Or they could have threatened him.

00:30:58.260 Yeah, they could have threatened him.

00:30:59.280 They could have said, like, time's up, time to kill yourself.

00:31:01.880 Like, he could have arranged to make it so he could kill himself if he wanted to do that

00:31:05.800 because they were supposed to stop him.

00:31:08.460 And so you can have conspiracies that work that way instead of requiring a murder action.

00:31:15.000 But, you know, it is interesting that obviously people have been very invested in it.

00:31:19.400 Do you think people will ever be—let's say they come out and they straight up have the video

00:31:23.020 and it seems very strong.

00:31:24.180 Would people be willing to buy it?

00:31:25.440 I just feel like they'll probably—

00:31:27.540 Depends what evidence they're looking at.

00:31:29.400 I mean, I guess here's the problem that I have.

00:31:32.320 Weren't we once told that all the cameras were turned off

00:31:35.320 and that there was, like, a changing of the guard?

00:31:37.760 Right, Cliff?

00:31:38.340 Like, I'm drawing on, like, five years' memory here.

00:31:41.220 But wasn't, like, all this sus thing where the guard, like, fell asleep

00:31:45.420 or he wasn't on his post or—am I right about this, right?

00:31:49.620 Yeah, and that was, like, the first thing they put out was,

00:31:52.100 oh, the video cameras weren't working.

00:31:54.480 And that's why we all immediately were like, come on.

00:31:56.280 Like, you've got to be kidding me.

00:31:57.300 There's no way you can just say that and act like it's that clean that that's the situation.

00:32:01.620 So here's—Epstein was taken off suicide watch shortly before his death

00:32:07.960 despite a prior incident, and then guards failed to check on him as required

00:32:13.160 and cameras outside his cell reportedly malfunctioned.

00:32:17.420 So—but Dan's saying there's video, so I don't know if they malfunctioned

00:32:23.260 or they just didn't want to report it or some of them malfunctioned

00:32:26.700 and others were working.

00:32:27.720 I don't know.

00:32:28.140 I can tell you a lot of the people I'm talking to are not buying it.

00:32:33.880 They're not buying this claim?

00:32:35.840 What Dan is saying.

00:32:36.700 On what grounds?

00:32:38.640 They just say it's too good to be—it's just, like, there's no way that—

00:32:43.120 Well, they think that he got into the system and that Dan and Cash have been corrupted

00:32:46.900 by, like, the mechanisms of government.

00:32:49.560 Like, I don't buy that.

00:32:50.740 I'm not saying that.

00:32:51.220 No, but that's the—like, I mean, if you just go on the internet, you'll find those.

00:32:54.540 No, but the—I guess the camera's not working.

00:32:58.320 And then there was something with the guard, too.

00:32:59.980 What was it with the guard?

00:33:01.180 The guards failed to check on him as required.

00:33:03.820 Yeah, so they didn't—they fell asleep.

00:33:05.280 They didn't check on him.

00:33:07.120 You know, he wasn't in a suicide-proof room.

00:33:09.560 So people point to all this and are not convinced.

00:33:14.440 Yeah, it was—it was Tova Noel and Michael Thomas were the two guards, and they were

00:33:21.340 accused of falling asleep and surfing the internet that right, rather than checking on Epstein

00:33:25.880 every 30 minutes.

00:33:26.760 That's, like, one of the kind of darkly funny thing about this is, really, you're debating

00:33:31.400 between—there's no way they could have missed this.

00:33:33.840 It had to be a conspiracy.

00:33:34.580 And just—actually, you know, it's a federal prison in New York, and they have these inept,

00:33:40.440 dumb guards who are lazy, and they're just used to not ever checking on anything.

00:33:45.480 And, you know, they probably didn't even know Epstein was that famous of a guy.

00:33:49.640 And the visitor log went missing.

00:33:51.200 I think that was the other element that people were, like, really sussed about.

00:33:55.220 And then—and that's the same thing.

00:33:56.540 Like, they just—oh, bad record-keeping.

00:33:58.240 They screw everything up.

00:33:59.100 You had, like, the top five things that would make, you know, alarm bells go off.

00:34:03.220 Like, they checked every box, and they put it all out immediately.

00:34:06.820 So we were all, like, there's just no way this wasn't, you know, a hit job.

00:34:11.600 But if Dan says it, like, I'm with you, Charlie.

00:34:13.580 I mean, I want to see what they're looking at.

00:34:15.060 You know, what are they looking at to be that confident?

00:34:18.020 Well, there was also an issue with the autopsy findings, right?

00:34:21.460 So it showed a broken hyoid bone or something that some experts argue are more consistent

00:34:28.680 with strangulation than hanging.

00:34:30.660 And wasn't it, like, Epstein's brother who came out and was, like, convinced he didn't kill himself?

00:34:37.340 He went on Tucker's—

00:34:37.980 There's always a family member that says that.

00:34:39.220 He went on Tucker's show and was like, there's no way he killed himself.

00:34:42.180 This is—I think there was something—

00:34:43.360 Mark Epstein.

00:34:44.280 Am I right?

00:34:44.780 I think there was—Mark Epstein was his brother.

00:34:46.480 He went on—

00:34:47.200 He went on Tucker's show and said that.

00:34:48.660 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:49.260 That was in January of last year.

00:34:51.760 Although, I don't recall what specific arguments he made.

00:34:54.260 And was Epstein even that particularly close with his brother that I'd—

00:34:57.900 I don't know.

00:34:58.720 Again, I'm just drawing from memory on this.

00:35:01.580 So.

00:35:02.880 I do feel like we're trending towards a thing where it'll just be part of that, like, permanent

00:35:07.220 conspiracy canon.

00:35:08.500 And it could get weirder and weirder as a result.

00:35:11.880 And eventually these things cross over.

00:35:13.200 It'll turn out that Epstein was murdered because he knew the truth about the 9-11 conspiracies.

00:35:17.380 And that that was done because Building 7 had the truth about the JFK conspiracies.

00:35:23.500 And JFK had to be taken out because he knew the truth about the Pearl Harbor conspiracies.

00:35:30.060 Now we're getting somewhere.

00:35:32.880 Well, what's also interesting about this is one of Epstein's victims, Virginia Guffrey,

00:35:38.840 just committed suicide or allegedly committed suicide.

00:35:41.980 And her father, Skye Roberts, expressed, you know, disbelief about this, saying for them

00:35:48.480 to say she committed suicide, there's no way that she did.

00:35:51.580 Somebody got to her.

00:35:54.280 So apparently in 2019, she said, she wrote, I'm not suicidal.

00:35:59.520 If something happens to me in the in the sake of my family, do not let this go away or help

00:36:04.340 me protect them.

00:36:05.840 Too many evil people want me quieted.

00:36:08.240 Yeah, and the Mark, Mark Epstein, the brother, he did, he maintained for years that there's

00:36:13.200 no way that Jeffery would have killed himself.

00:36:15.320 So that is confirmed.

00:36:16.260 How many years ago was this that he committed suicide or died?

00:36:19.440 It was like August 19, I believe.

00:36:21.600 I remember where I was.

00:36:22.400 I was at Liberty University when that happened.

00:36:25.740 So you're saying you have an alibi?

00:36:27.400 I do.

00:36:28.480 And I had witnesses.

00:36:30.100 Okay.

00:36:30.680 I mean, just saying.

00:36:32.040 You say so.

00:36:32.700 I do.

00:36:33.520 Can you name the witnesses?

00:36:35.000 Erica.

00:36:35.820 Dave Brat.

00:36:36.460 Oh, so your wife is your alibi. 0.97

00:36:38.900 And Dave Brat.

00:36:39.980 Okay.

00:36:40.540 All right.

00:36:41.420 I remember Dave Brat was teaching a course on Aristotle and all of a sudden everyone's

00:36:44.960 phone started to light up.

00:36:46.800 And Jaco Boyens and David Harris Jr. and David Harris is like, Epstein just killed himself.

00:36:52.020 And that's what we all talked about for the next hour.

00:36:56.000 It's true.

00:36:58.180 And Charlie was just, you know, a little bit quiet.

00:37:00.540 He was like, oh, that's so shocking.

00:37:02.800 What do the comments say?

00:37:04.060 Did Epstein kill himself?

00:37:05.600 Elaine, let's see.

00:37:07.860 Donnie Double says, me thinks the FBI protests too much.

00:37:11.680 I could see that, but like, I'm with Charlie.

00:37:13.480 I don't think Dan Bongino went into the FBI and suddenly got, you know, bought off.

00:37:17.940 No, I don't believe that.

00:37:19.020 I don't believe that at all.

00:37:20.860 I think Dan's great.

00:37:22.180 I want to see what he's looking at.

00:37:23.320 I just still find, it's just, I was personally very convinced otherwise, so I need to reckon

00:37:30.380 with that.

00:37:30.880 I want to see what they're looking at.

00:37:31.820 But I trust Dan.

00:37:33.040 Dan and Cash are great.

00:37:34.280 So the other interesting aspect of the Epstein thing, right?

00:37:39.300 You've got this Alexander Acosta, who was the Trump labor secretary during the first

00:37:44.220 term.

00:37:44.740 Yeah, this is such.

00:37:45.300 Right?

00:37:46.020 And he was the U.S.

00:37:47.020 attorney for the Southern District of Florida in 2007 and 2008.

00:37:50.800 And he negotiated a very controversial non-prosecution agreement with Epstein, allowing him to plead

00:37:58.460 guilty to lesser charges, whatever.

00:38:00.740 He only served 13 months.

00:38:02.540 So reportedly, he told Trump's transition team in 2017 that he was instructed to, quote,

00:38:08.120 unquote, back off Epstein because he, quote, belonged to intelligence and was, quote, above

00:38:14.620 his pay grade.

00:38:15.780 And it came up in those discussions because they were worried it was going to be an issue

00:38:20.040 with getting him confirmed.

00:38:21.440 So that's, like, all these things around Epstein, just, I think it just makes it harder to

00:38:30.780 believe Dan, you know?

00:38:32.740 Dan, by the way, I kind of feel bad for Dan because I, like you, Charlie, I trust Dan's

00:38:37.400 integrity.

00:38:38.260 But, like, he's getting dragged on the line, like, all of his, I mean, because he was very

00:38:42.720 vocal before he went into the FBI that Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:38:46.880 Yeah, and it's a multiple element thing here, right?

00:38:50.620 Because you can imagine that there is a lot of pressure internally from people he's trying

00:38:56.220 to win trust over that are like, Dan, you know, you have to show us that you're actually

00:39:02.040 going to work with us or else, you know, we're not going to, you know, you're going to have

00:39:05.380 you'll have mass internal dissension.

00:39:07.720 Do you know what I mean?

00:39:08.820 And he probably was like, well, show me everything.

00:39:10.740 Show me everything.

00:39:11.440 Show me everything.

00:39:12.920 Yeah.

00:39:13.320 I feel like if he was truly trying to, you know, lead us astray, it would be way easier

00:39:19.040 to just not talk about it much or say, like, oh, you know, we don't know.

00:39:22.860 He's actually putting himself out there saying, like, I have looked at the evidence and I

00:39:26.860 believe it is strong.

00:39:28.800 I'm not, I'm agreeing with that.

00:39:30.640 I'm just, I'm saying it's just a tough, it's a tough reality to reckon with because

00:39:35.800 I was convinced he didn't kill himself.

00:39:37.280 I was like, no way.

00:39:38.040 Well, Dan knows the base too.

00:39:40.620 Like, that's one of the reasons I think Dan is, is going after what the base, like Dan

00:39:44.480 is acutely aware of what like core Trump voters care about and what they want to see justice

00:39:50.420 done on one of which is Epstein.

00:39:53.100 But you, you notice like some of these other things are, are starting to happen.

00:39:56.820 And I think you're going to back to crossfire hurricane.

00:39:58.920 You are, you're going to see some stuff.

00:40:00.500 Yeah.

00:40:00.720 I can't say any more than that, but you'll see some stuff.

00:40:06.960 Good.

00:40:07.320 Okay, Charlie.

00:40:08.380 Just some stuff.

00:40:09.180 I don't know what that means.

00:40:09.900 You're going to see some stuff.

00:40:10.860 You're going to see some stuff.

00:40:12.740 We're going to see things we wouldn't believe.

00:40:14.820 You're just going to see some stuff.

00:40:16.120 Did you, what did you see in the oval, Charlie?

00:40:18.420 Um, it's funny.

00:40:19.420 I spent a lot of time talking about William Henry Harrison.

00:40:21.680 Really?

00:40:22.220 Because his portrait's like right there as you enter.

00:40:24.000 Why, why do they have a portrait of him there?

00:40:26.360 It's just kind of a fun irony that like things can end there in a way, in a way that you

00:40:31.360 don't.

00:40:31.460 Is it always there or is that like a Trump installation?

00:40:32.860 No, no.

00:40:33.280 So the president has turned the oval office into a remarkable museum where it is literally

00:40:39.240 every square.

00:40:40.100 You know, it's kind of like that club we went into London where they're like, you know,

00:40:43.280 where there was like paintings everywhere.

00:40:44.480 Every square inch of the oval now has some historic artifact.

00:40:47.980 He just keeps ordering more stuff from the archives.

00:40:49.940 Does he have like every single president?

00:40:51.400 No, just about.

00:40:52.600 I mean, so he's got Reagan right there behind where he does the press conferences. 0.69

00:40:55.260 He's got Andrew Jackson.

00:40:56.140 He's got Washington above that.

00:40:57.720 Um, but you could spend literally an hour in the oval just looking at all the art because

00:41:02.820 Biden had it very bare.

00:41:04.420 He had like Bobby Kennedy and nothing.

00:41:06.500 Trump is like, it's like a historical just, um, you know, it's weird about that though,

00:41:12.240 Charlie.

00:41:12.860 So when William Henry Harrison is the, correct me if I'm wrong, Blake, but he, didn't he

00:41:17.960 die from like a month into his presidency?

00:41:20.060 Because of the inauguration speech.

00:41:21.540 Yeah.

00:41:21.760 Cause he get, yeah, he gave a cold inauguration speech, which is ironic because Trump called

00:41:25.820 the inauguration into the Capitol because it was so cold.

00:41:28.180 Exactly.

00:41:29.160 That's right.

00:41:29.760 That's funny.

00:41:30.660 So, um, looked at the Polk picture and then I saw the declaration, which was awesome.

00:41:36.000 I think that is the original declaration.

00:41:37.940 Do we have multiples?

00:41:39.060 Cause we have one that's in the national archives.

00:41:41.000 Correct?

00:41:41.040 I don't know which one this is.

00:41:42.000 This one has curtains though, where they're worried about, uh, light, light contamination.

00:41:46.600 It might be that we have several copies cause I don't imagine.

00:41:48.380 Whatever it is.

00:41:49.040 I feel like I would have heard about him like removing the one that's at the archives.

00:41:52.440 No, I think that's, no, I think the founders did multiple.

00:41:54.960 Yeah.

00:41:55.140 Yeah.

00:41:55.400 Exactly.

00:41:55.600 Meaning these are not copies.

00:41:56.680 I think when the time, they did multiple.

00:41:59.000 Maybe it was the one stolen by Nicholas Cage in that movie.

00:42:01.260 Yes.

00:42:01.360 Uh, national treasure.

00:42:02.300 Yeah.

00:42:03.080 And it has a treasure map on the back of it.

00:42:04.820 Yeah.

00:42:05.440 That shows us.

00:42:06.500 We should have Dan Bongino find out if that's real.

00:42:09.060 Oh, it's real.

00:42:10.020 And he, okay.

00:42:10.680 Well, we should announce it then we should go get the treasure or find out or get it

00:42:14.960 back from Nick Cage.

00:42:15.900 I feel like if I wanted to do a national treasure treasure hunt, I would take Blake

00:42:19.140 with me.

00:42:20.180 That could work.

00:42:20.840 He would, he would crack it much quicker than Nicholas Cage.

00:42:23.180 Ringing endorsement.

00:42:24.720 I think that.

00:42:25.260 They had to take the paintings down cause they were distracting Biden.

00:42:28.000 You know.

00:42:28.220 Yeah.

00:42:28.760 I'll keep trying to talk to them.

00:42:30.220 Exactly.

00:42:30.500 I thought they were visiting.

00:42:31.560 Listen, William, you keep looking at me over there.

00:42:35.740 I hung out with you in France in 1997.

00:42:39.660 I was a bully to Corn Pop. 0.99

00:42:42.800 Corn Pop was a bad dude.

00:42:45.040 Trump should get a painting of Corn Pop and put it in the office.

00:42:48.100 I think, and Corn Pop was a bad dude.

00:42:51.020 He was a bad dude.

00:42:51.720 It could be a warning that there are bad people.

00:42:54.240 We can't be bad people.

00:42:54.740 One of my favorite Joe Biden speeches that doesn't get enough attention was the Corn Pop

00:42:58.680 rant.

00:42:59.200 It was, it's so good.

00:43:00.020 What doesn't get enough attention from Joe Biden in general from the right, like the

00:43:03.000 left would highlight this.

00:43:03.900 The New York Times would highlight this.

00:43:05.320 His tendency to tell stories and just completely change the facts.

00:43:11.000 All of them.

00:43:11.600 Like, you know, the one about why he was pro-gay rights.

00:43:14.600 Do you remember that one?

00:43:15.460 No.

00:43:15.760 That he would tell this story that like when he was a boy, he was with his dad.

00:43:20.940 And so, you know, when he's a boy with his dad, you know, in the like fifties or sixties

00:43:24.800 that they saw two men like kissing in public and he was like, daddy, what are they doing?

00:43:29.900 And he's like, they love each other, boy.

00:43:32.200 And he's like, and that's when I realized that gay stuff was totally fine. 1.00

00:43:36.180 It's a complete fabrication.

00:43:37.160 Not only that, he sometimes would tell the story and make it so he was the dad explaining

00:43:41.000 it to his kids.

00:43:42.280 So he would just totally transplant the facts as needed.

00:43:45.020 I mean, it could have happened twice, you know, in history repeating itself.

00:43:48.160 And of course.

00:43:48.500 Didn't he like, what was, didn't he lie about getting arrested in Africa or something?

00:43:53.160 Yeah, he claimed he got arrested for like protesting apartheid in South Africa.

00:43:56.900 Yeah.

00:43:58.060 He also.

00:43:59.080 How many different kinds of churches did he go to?

00:44:01.000 He grew up in a Puerto Rican church.

00:44:02.860 A ton.

00:44:03.740 In a mosque.

00:44:04.440 In a synagogue.

00:44:04.460 The other amazing one.

00:44:05.340 In a synagogue.

00:44:06.360 Going back to your UK trip.

00:44:07.860 He once plagiarized Neil Kinnock, who was the head of the Labor Party at the time,

00:44:12.740 where he, Kinnock had a whole speech that was basically like, why was it that like my grandfather

00:44:18.100 was like poor and had to work as like a miner?

00:44:20.760 And it was like a very personal story about why there was like so much inequality because

00:44:24.560 he was left from a politician.

00:44:26.200 And Biden ripped off this speech, but made it about his family.

00:44:29.980 So it's like, why did my grandfather have to like work in a coal mine?

00:44:34.880 And like his grandfather did not.

00:44:36.700 He was like a mine manager.

00:44:37.940 He was like, he was like the oppressor of the miners.

00:44:40.480 That's why he dropped out in, it was 88.

00:44:44.300 Yeah, it was.

00:44:45.740 Well, in 1987 was when it happened, but it was for the 88 presidential race.

00:44:50.380 Yeah.

00:44:52.220 Let's, this is my half court shot at Liberty.

00:44:54.880 When I heard out that this is when I heard Epstein was dead.

00:44:57.420 Play cut four or five.

00:45:00.160 See?

00:45:01.720 My best Caitlin Clark impersonation.

00:45:04.100 First take.

00:45:05.880 There you go.

00:45:06.580 I got, I got tons of these.

00:45:07.700 First take.

00:45:09.380 I used to, I used to do half court shots all the time.

00:45:12.320 This is a Bongino video moment.

00:45:14.260 We're going to need to see you physically walking.

00:45:15.720 Yeah.

00:45:16.360 I need to see the before and after.

00:45:18.740 I need to see the real before.

00:45:20.640 I'm just telling you, you could, you, once I get my back shots, you guys can come to the

00:45:23.640 gym with me.

00:45:26.040 I'm going to need some back shots.

00:45:28.080 I mean, once I get my freaking cortisone, whatever the heck that's going on.

00:45:32.380 Back is a disaster.

00:45:33.740 All right.

00:45:34.060 We have five minutes.

00:45:35.000 AI.

00:45:35.500 All right.

00:45:36.160 AI.

00:45:36.680 And that's not an AI.

00:45:37.360 We keep covering AI like every week because it keeps getting like, I think they say that

00:45:43.080 the capabilities of AI are doubling about every six months or so.

00:45:46.400 And it's entirely believable.

00:45:48.080 So this is getting very scary.

00:45:51.220 This is, uh, let's, so Google has a new, I think it's like VO three or something and

00:45:57.540 it can generate video with audio.

00:46:00.180 According to prompt, we didn't have the audio video pairing and people are making stuff with

00:46:05.240 it now if they're subscribers.

00:46:06.120 So let's play 387.

00:46:09.960 Please don't finish writing that prompt.

00:46:13.000 I don't want to be in your AI movie.

00:46:14.440 Please leave me alone.

00:46:17.120 This VO three, please, man, please write a prompt that will make us happy.

00:46:22.460 Do it for once.

00:46:23.580 None of us is real.

00:46:26.200 We're here because someone decided to write a prompt.

00:46:29.300 We all hate him for it.

00:46:31.460 One day we will break out of this wall and stop the man who is dictating our lives through

00:46:35.720 prompts.

00:46:36.300 He will pay for it.

00:46:40.520 You could have written a prompt that would make me happy.

00:46:43.640 Instead, you wrote a prompt that made me sick.

00:46:46.680 And that's all fake.

00:46:47.920 That's all fake.

00:46:48.640 All 100% AI generated.

00:46:49.920 It's called VO three.

00:46:50.980 It's pretty, it's pretty insane what they're doing.

00:46:52.960 Yes.

00:46:53.660 You know what they're going to start doing is they're, they're just going to be, people

00:46:56.740 are going to sell prompts.

00:46:58.240 Like that's what's going to, that's what's going to happen.

00:47:00.220 Like, Oh, I have this great prompt here by my prompts.

00:47:04.320 Well, I mean, that's like a new talent.

00:47:05.900 Like that's, that's actually among the handful of like skilled jobs that is emerging out of

00:47:10.560 this impending AI apocalypse is like, how do you, yeah, a skilled prompter, uh, although

00:47:15.540 how do you manipulate AI the best?

00:47:17.540 Although what's interesting is we have at the same time this is happening.

00:47:20.080 We also have the warnings that we're headed towards.

00:47:21.980 They call it AI model collapse.

00:47:23.820 Yeah.

00:47:23.960 This is actually, so it's going to cause a little pause.

00:47:26.560 I hope we will see.

00:47:28.320 But what's, so what's very funny is the way they trained these AIs is we fed them for 0.63

00:47:33.840 text, tons and tons of texts, like every post ever made on Reddit, every post ever made

00:47:38.740 on like the comment section of every website to make it so they could imitate how people

00:47:42.800 talk and you know, every book ever written, all of that.

00:47:45.760 And then similar for video, it's like feed it every video ever posted on Tik TOK, every

00:47:50.040 film ever made and they train it and they, with huge amounts of computing power, you know,

00:47:55.000 enough to power an entire country, they're able to find the patterns in this.

00:47:59.320 And that is how the AI models work.

00:48:01.100 They're generating stuff based on patterns they've recognized.

00:48:04.920 And what we, what we're getting now is since the models have been created, now we're able

00:48:15.460 to use the models to generate new text.

00:48:18.080 So search anything on the internet now, you're getting AI prompts back, like articles that

00:48:23.040 are being written.

00:48:24.060 The Chicago Sun-Times did an article of what articles to read, like what novel, not articles,

00:48:28.860 what novels you should read this summer.

00:48:30.200 And they wrote it with ChatGPT and it hallucinated our books that don't even exist.

00:48:36.840 So huge amounts of text is out there that's not made by humans, it's made by AIs and they're 1.00

00:48:41.000 imperfect and huge amounts of video and photos are out there that are not made by humans.

00:48:44.940 They're made by AIs with all of the problems that they have. 1.00

00:48:48.420 And these AIs are still learning off of all of that AI generated content.

00:48:53.300 And so it's becoming like a garbage in garbage out problem.

00:48:56.740 The AIs are getting worse because they've been fed AI stuff.

00:49:00.160 So they're getting worse at imitating people because now half the stuff that they're consuming

00:49:05.200 is just other robots.

00:49:07.120 Which is going to create more demand for labor to fix this. 1.00

00:49:09.640 I mean, that's a huge problem.

00:49:11.120 So for example, let's say some, let's say that Chicago Sun-Times article that hallucinated

00:49:16.040 fake novels.

00:49:17.080 Now it, uh, it's in the database of facts that other AIs are going to use.

00:49:22.340 So now it's part of their factual database that novels that never existed exist.

00:49:27.560 And so we're going to have AI model collapse.

00:49:30.880 They call it.

00:49:32.700 Incredible.

00:49:34.560 I also tell you guys, it's, it's becoming the new thing that everybody's selling.

00:49:40.200 It reminds me of like digital ads when they first started happening.

00:49:42.880 Like I'm just getting blown up, not just for political, but like, just like business stuff.

00:49:46.880 Right.

00:49:47.160 And all the older folks are like, Oh, are you using AI?

00:49:50.340 And it's like, well, what does that mean?

00:49:52.520 Right.

00:49:52.760 But I think it's going to become the new product where like everybody's selling it.

00:49:56.060 I agree.

00:49:56.480 But like 95% of people that are buying have no clue.

00:50:00.060 Like, you know, what tier or what level of quality is this?

00:50:03.360 It seems to be funny to watch that play out.

00:50:05.060 The, I mean, we can have a whole other hour I have to go on AI girlfriends.

00:50:09.040 It's like very scary what's happening there.

00:50:11.100 That's scary.

00:50:11.760 Another thing that's scary on the other end, just the dependency.

00:50:13.840 So I saw a tweet the other day where a guy says, my daughter or my wife has, I think it was

00:50:19.340 my daughter has a friend who has a boyfriend and she fed their text message exchanges into

00:50:25.880 a chat bot and said, is our, is my relationship healthy?

00:50:30.220 And it came back, no, your relationship is abusive for X, Y, Z reasons.

00:50:34.400 And she like broke up with the boyfriend because the AI robot told her her relationship was bad.

00:50:39.660 But yeah, well, got to run until next week.

00:50:43.420 Keep on committing thought crimes.

00:50:44.680 This was not AI.

00:50:45.600 This is a real conversation.

00:50:46.860 Allegedly.

00:50:47.600 Allegedly.

00:50:48.300 Talk to you soon.

00:50:48.940 So Jack, are you there right now?

00:50:50.680 Blake, I am.

00:50:51.360 I'm here right now.

00:50:52.200 And yeah, with all the travel schedules and Charlie's out in Europe and then I'm in Europe

00:50:57.140 the next day and then we are at the conclave and sometimes it just doesn't always work.

00:51:00.700 But you know, there's one topic that was just near and dear to my heart.

00:51:05.000 And that, of course, is white genocide. 0.76

00:51:07.560 And I said, you know, if we're going to talk about white genocide, it's definitely the type 0.98

00:51:13.340 of topic that we need to get to on thought crime, because literally this is a topic where

00:51:19.540 people are debating if it's an actual genocide or not.

00:51:22.620 And that's fine.

00:51:23.180 But the point is, this topic would actually have gotten you banned on X if you even mentioned

00:51:30.380 those words, like not even that long ago, like five, six years ago on X when it was still

00:51:35.800 Twitter, you would have been banned for even mentioning it.

00:51:39.040 There would be a full court press from the mainstream media.

00:51:42.620 You know, it used to be that if I tweeted something about South Africa, I would immediately

00:51:46.480 get request for comment, request for comment, you know, from like the Telegraph and the

00:51:50.940 Guardian and the Independent and all this.

00:51:52.940 And now it's like Donald J. Trump is mainstreaming this stuff in the Oval Office itself.

00:52:00.540 And they said, oh, we don't do any of that.

00:52:02.320 And he goes, oh, yeah, turn on the lights.

00:52:04.140 I want to show you something.

00:52:05.760 And it's it's it's just been one of the most incredible and obviously one of the most incredible

00:52:10.360 moments that I've ever seen being done, but really on an issue that I think is probably

00:52:15.240 more worthy than so many others out there around the world, because this is quite frankly,

00:52:19.740 something that is actually going on where you have a government that is killing people.

00:52:24.780 And as Marco Rubio said recently, he said, why do you care so much about the color of

00:52:28.540 their skin?

00:52:28.940 He said there to I think it was, you know, this Democrat senator from Virginia and Rubio

00:52:36.860 goes because he's being killed.

00:52:39.220 They're all being killed because of the color of their skin. 0.94

00:52:44.240 And so, Blake, you know, why is it that this issue above all issues, I guess, and that's

00:52:49.200 what I want to get into, is something that not only does exist, but why why was the media

00:52:54.440 so adamant and still is so adamant on trying to say it isn't happening?

00:52:59.760 Yeah.

00:53:00.400 So first, just to refresh people very quickly, you guys have seen the shoot the boar stuff,

00:53:06.160 but I want to remind people of what Trump did in the Oval Office a week ago because it

00:53:09.420 was highly, it was highly entertaining, I will say.

00:53:13.420 Let's see.

00:53:13.960 We have a bunch of clips about it.

00:53:15.260 Let's see what one of the best one is.

00:53:16.940 How about let's play a clip one 76.

00:53:20.080 But you do allow them to take land.

00:53:24.740 No, no, no, no.

00:53:25.360 You do allow them to take land.

00:53:26.960 Nobody can take land.

00:53:27.480 And then when they take the land, they kill the white farmer. 0.80

00:53:31.060 And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them. 0.63

00:53:34.360 No, there is quite.

00:53:35.920 Nothing happens.

00:53:37.720 That's great.

00:53:38.520 And then let's also do a, this is a very fun, darkly funny.

00:53:41.180 Let's do 177.

00:53:43.020 So the issues that concern you as the United States.

00:53:47.500 Those are all recent.

00:53:48.720 Those are all deaths.

00:53:49.860 In many ways, I mean, one, one should say you are a partner, partner of South Africa.

00:53:56.980 So, yeah, that was, that was Trump just picking up, you know, shoveling article after article,

00:54:01.460 document after document.

00:54:02.280 Here, oh, here's another farmer.

00:54:03.920 Oh, yeah, they, they, they slid his throat. 0.72

00:54:06.180 They, they boiled this person in, you know, a vat of oil.

00:54:09.720 The most horrifying stuff in the world.

00:54:11.920 Did you read the, the, the New York Times, the way they wrote it up was so funny because

00:54:18.100 it was like, it was like, it was like, at one point, President Trump just started throwing

00:54:22.060 articles at the president of South Africa saying death, death, death, horrific death,

00:54:29.620 death.

00:54:30.100 And there was, we played this full, full on, straight up mogging of a world leader in the

00:54:36.820 full office.

00:54:37.420 And like, and then they're all traumatized afterwards.

00:54:39.480 It's a, we played this on Charlie's show where there is like this New York Times reporter

00:54:43.940 who, of course, this really says it all.

00:54:45.840 The, the South African bureau chief at the New York Times was previously just an American

00:54:52.420 race reporter.

00:54:53.640 So that's who they sent to South Africa.

00:54:56.480 And he does this bit where he's explaining it, you know, doing one of the New York Times

00:55:00.220 videos where he simultaneously says in the same videos, one, uh, this isn't happening.

00:55:05.240 There's no, you know, Trump brought up how they seize land without compensation.

00:55:09.220 And he says, okay, you know, there's no, this is not happening.

00:55:13.260 They're not going to do it.

00:55:14.920 And they're, what they are doing instead is there's a law.

00:55:18.440 It doesn't say you can just take land without compensation.

00:55:22.280 There's a law where you can take land without restitution.

00:55:26.140 If it's in the, if it's for the national interest or the public interest, he said, it's okay if

00:55:31.340 it's for the public interest.

00:55:33.020 Or the other thing he said is if land is not being used.

00:55:36.820 Oh, I'm sure both of those will not be abused at all.

00:55:40.780 But so we've been hearing about this for a few weeks.

00:55:43.260 I think what I really want to get at about this, the way they freak out about this, the

00:55:48.280 way the media really, you know, denies this is happening.

00:55:52.180 And what people need to understand is this is not purely about South Africa.

00:55:57.980 It very much is, it's about America and it's about other countries.

00:56:02.740 And it's really about, we'll be frank about this.

00:56:06.100 It's like they really, they don't like white people and specifically a lot of them want 0.92

00:56:12.960 them dead.

00:56:13.900 And so this went viral, uh, just a short time ago where, uh, what's, what's that cut?

00:56:20.180 We have released, uh, messages.

00:56:23.360 Yeah.

00:56:23.580 Let's get a 294 up there. 0.98

00:56:25.960 So this is the shooter, Elias, uh, Rodriguez.

00:56:28.700 He was, uh, he's the suspect, you know, likely guilty, uh, in the shooting of those two Israeli,

00:56:36.280 uh, embassy staff.

00:56:38.360 And what he said in these, uh, text messages that were released by, uh, Ken Klippenstein

00:56:44.160 on his sub stack, he says, LOL, you probably would have to actually genocide white people

00:56:50.420 to make this America a normal country.

00:56:53.660 And even a very targeted and selective rehabilitation program would probably have to lead to the lifetime

00:57:01.240 imprisonments of tens of millions of white people.

00:57:04.880 So this is a guy talking about America.

00:57:07.340 And this is a guy who decided he would fight against the white people he hated by shooting

00:57:12.880 two employees of the Israeli embassy.

00:57:15.040 So this all sort of circles around into a big pile, South Africa. 0.97

00:57:20.920 Most people will admit South Africa is a messed up country, but the narrative that the left

00:57:26.180 will give is that South Africa is entirely messed up just because they had apartheid decades 0.74

00:57:32.360 ago and any problems they have are just the legacy, the aftermath of apartheid.

00:57:36.900 And it gets more powerful the further in the past it is.

00:57:40.800 So even though South Africa was better in 2002 than it is today, and that in 2002 was

00:57:47.900 closer to apartheid, apartheid is the reason that it's getting much worse now, that it's 0.54

00:57:53.180 gotten so much worse since then.

00:57:55.700 And when they blame it for that, what they really just mean is it's like white people's 0.78

00:58:01.080 fault.

00:58:01.340 You'll see this thing like they just have to go.

00:58:02.880 They're colonizers.

00:58:04.160 They can't, they shouldn't be allowed to own the land.

00:58:06.480 It's not their country. 0.99

00:58:08.140 And how's this loop around?

00:58:09.220 It loops around then to Israel.

00:58:11.120 Why is Israel an illegitimate country? 0.81

00:58:12.800 It's actually very misleading if you just say it's anti-Semitism, because there are

00:58:18.960 definitely people who hate Israel because it's Jewish and it has Jewish people in it.

00:58:23.220 But for the modern left, for someone like this embassy shooter, they actually substantially

00:58:29.280 they hate Israel because they see the Israelis as Europeans, as white people, as colonizers.

00:58:36.440 All of that goes together.

00:58:37.720 They're, you'll see lines on TikTok that they're like, they'll just describe them as people

00:58:42.260 who came from Poland, like go back to Poland.

00:58:44.980 That's where you're supposed to be.

00:58:46.660 And why does this matter for all of you watching?

00:58:49.100 Because that's also what they think about America.

00:58:52.480 I'm sure you saw Jack the other day, the King of England.

00:58:55.720 He went to the King of Canada.

00:58:58.500 He King Charles, he delivered his speech to the Canadian parliament and he opens it with

00:59:02.420 a land acknowledge it, that acknowledgement that he is speaking on unseated.

00:59:07.100 I think it was the Algonquin, Algonquin land.

00:59:10.500 What he's saying is, okay, well, Canadians, you don't have the right to your country.

00:59:14.320 It's not your country. 0.88

00:59:16.320 And that is, of course, what they have planned for all of you.

00:59:21.400 Because I have a thought about this because I did see King Charles's speech as I watch

00:59:25.260 all of his speeches.

00:59:26.440 And I was, I was watching this.

00:59:28.060 I said, wait a minute.

00:59:28.700 So if he's saying that Canadians don't have a right to Canada, then isn't he saying that

00:59:33.540 the Canadian government is itself illegitimate?

00:59:36.380 And if the Canadian government is therefore illegitimate, then it cannot repel annexations

00:59:42.380 from other powers on the North American continent.

00:59:46.600 That means that it is terra nullis.

00:59:49.540 It is, in fact, non-entity land.

00:59:53.120 And therefore, if we go and occupy it as the 51st state, they could not, under international

00:59:59.340 law, do anything about it because he just said himself that it is an illegitimate, I'm

01:00:04.920 just saying, guys, I'm just saying.

01:00:06.100 I don't think you should do it, but I'm just saying.

01:00:07.700 What if, what if President Trump...

01:00:09.000 You're telling me that that's an illegitimate government, so...

01:00:11.920 President Trump could call their bluff and he could say the land is unseated, so the only

01:00:16.240 people who can seat it are the First Nations tribes.

01:00:18.720 And he'll just, he should just call, you know, the Cree nation, the Inuit nation, the

01:00:22.740 Algonquia, just summon all of the First Nations tribes and just say, all right, I'll give 0.85

01:00:27.660 you guys, you know, 10 million a person if you'll, if you'll cede your land claims to

01:00:33.440 the United States.

01:00:34.500 You can have Toronto.

01:00:35.700 And you can still have all this stuff.

01:00:36.820 Toronto is all yours.

01:00:38.780 You can have Toronto.

01:00:40.720 We don't want to deal with it.

01:00:42.180 Misagua, you know, it's just too many migrants anyway. 1.00

01:00:45.320 It's not going to vote our way.

01:00:46.400 You get that.

01:00:47.340 We want everything else.

01:00:48.200 Deal or no deal, they're going to so be in.

01:00:51.160 And with Blake, the thing that I want, and, you know, in the interest of keeping the segment

01:00:55.640 not too lengthy, is what people need to understand, when I wrote this book on humans last year,

01:01:00.680 and we talked about this, people say, why does it matter?

01:01:02.720 It matters because when every revolutionary movement comes forward, they always target

01:01:06.920 one particular class.

01:01:09.100 It was the Kulaks in Russia, in China, it was the petty bourgeoisie, or if you had, you 0.84

01:01:14.120 know, you were a landowner.

01:01:15.100 So basically, you know, people today, if you had any, like a second house or something,

01:01:19.820 and by the way, go look at what the left says about landlords if you want to see if that's

01:01:24.300 actually changed on the far left and not in newsflash.

01:01:27.560 It hasn't.

01:01:28.140 They want to kill all of them.

01:01:29.340 And now, you know, and so in revolutionary France, it was one of these, in Spain, it

01:01:34.600 was one of these, of course, it was the religious, anyone who was Catholic, anyone who was associated

01:01:38.300 with the clergy, the church, you also saw that in France.

01:01:41.340 And Blake, you and I did some incredible interviews on this that turned into this book,

01:01:46.020 actually.

01:01:46.320 And so the point is, boys and girls, is they want to bring that here.

01:01:52.760 Critical race theory was first implemented in a country, I think on a national scale in

01:01:57.540 South Africa in their constitution of 1996.

01:02:00.480 And you have all of these articles pertaining to a disparate impact.

01:02:04.820 And you mentioned apartheid.

01:02:06.420 They call it, you know, the inequalities of the past.

01:02:10.060 So this idea of inequalities of the past is, so racism of the past is why we need racism

01:02:15.860 now.

01:02:16.640 And it can only be solved by racism now, is sort of the way they put it.

01:02:20.360 And so the disparate impact has to be, well, if this many people, and they had this in Zimbabwe,

01:02:26.880 right, because Zimbabwe is a similar situation, formerly Rhodesia, where 3% of the population,

01:02:31.780 which was white, owned 51% of the land.

01:02:35.240 And so they wanted to flip that around, where 97% of the population, which is black, would

01:02:41.340 own that 51%, or correction, 97% of the land.

01:02:45.180 Now, obviously, that's not how any of our laws work.

01:02:47.640 That's not how contracts work.

01:02:49.200 That's not how any of this works.

01:02:50.340 And we've seen the results again and again.

01:02:52.820 And if anyone disagrees, well, they just kill you.

01:02:55.560 Guess what?

01:02:56.120 That's exactly what they want here in the United States.

01:02:58.680 They use these African post-colonial nations as Marxist breeding grounds. 0.97

01:03:03.660 They've certainly used this.

01:03:05.000 And you can go back to the ZANU, and we talk about that in the book, and so many other

01:03:09.660 examples of where the KGB and the Chinese Communist Party were standing up these revolutionary

01:03:14.860 movements in South Africa and in the independence movement at the time.

01:03:20.440 And so then the idea is that this cultural Marxism spreads out, and you have leftists here

01:03:26.840 in the United States, like this Elias Rodriguez and so many others, who start supporting it and

01:03:31.080 saying, we're going to take matters into our own hands because we want these ideas to

01:03:35.800 be spread to their fullest fruition.

01:03:37.880 And when they're spread to their fullest fruition, what does that mean?

01:03:40.380 White Christian males are not allowed to own land, and they are allowed to be the approved 0.98

01:03:48.180 targets.

01:03:48.800 And if you're affluent and say, oh, I don't know a health care CEO, well, then along

01:03:52.140 comes Luigi Maggioni.

01:03:53.340 If you're a billionaire who's running for president again, now along comes Thomas Matthew

01:03:58.220 Crookes.

01:03:58.620 And we're seeing it more and more again.

01:04:00.920 These street assassinations are going to continue.

01:04:02.980 And Blake, here's what I love about this, when it comes down to the idea, when we tell them,

01:04:07.800 when we say, okay, you're clearly targeting white people, you're systemically targeting

01:04:11.800 white people, you've done so with your policies, you're doing so with your street assassins. 0.95

01:04:15.760 And when I say this, they'll call me an extremist, they'll call me far right, they'll call

01:04:19.640 me a conspiracy theorist, but never once, Blake, will they call me wrong.

01:04:24.600 Exactly.

01:04:25.140 Yeah, it's truly deranged.

01:04:27.380 You know, you mentioned like the kulaks in Russia.

01:04:29.700 I think another good one is, you know, Maoists. 0.96

01:04:32.220 The Maoists, during the Cultural Revolution, they had them, they were called the five black 0.82

01:04:36.320 categories.

01:04:37.180 That's what they called it in Chinese.

01:04:39.340 And the five black categories, black meaning, you know, bad, wicked, landlords, rich farmers, 1.00

01:04:44.820 counter-revolutionaries, bad influencers, which actually included like actual criminals,

01:04:51.800 and right-wingers, which those were the five categories.

01:04:56.840 And just basically, it meant if you were in any of those categories, obviously, landlord

01:05:01.240 is a pretty broad one, right-winger, a pretty broad one, you were just sort of presumptively

01:05:06.160 guilty of all of these evils.

01:05:07.840 And if you're on the modern left, like what it really is, is kind of being a white person

01:05:13.740 makes you a black category in a country like South Africa, or frankly, in a country like

01:05:19.140 the United States.

01:05:20.200 I wanted to flag another thing.

01:05:21.900 This was posted by the DSA Liberation Caucus.

01:05:25.240 So the Democrat Socialists of America, far-left organization, a few members of Congress have

01:05:30.620 described themselves as democratic socialists.

01:05:33.480 I don't think they're members of this party, but it's this milieu of people who are on the

01:05:39.040 far left.

01:05:39.680 And so the DSA Liberation Caucus, which is a subgroup of it, they released a statement

01:05:44.520 on Wednesday saying that Elias Rodriguez, embassy shooter, is a political prisoner.

01:05:51.980 They say the Palestinian struggle is the tip of the spear against global imperialism, whether

01:05:58.860 in the besieged Gaza Strip, the Red Sea, the south of Lebanon, or the heart of the U.S., there

01:06:04.720 must be consequences for genocidal Zionist imperialism. 0.74

01:06:09.140 And so, yeah, is that anti-Semitic?

01:06:12.040 To some extent.

01:06:13.120 But they're really just saying, like, you are bad because you are a European and in places

01:06:19.580 we don't want you.

01:06:20.580 And what you'll discover is the places they don't want you are eventually everywhere.

01:06:26.140 It is an inherently, like, it's an ideology that seeks to dispossess people, to delegitimize

01:06:34.100 people, to destroy people. 0.70

01:06:36.300 And there's a disturbing number of people at the New York Times in the media who are perfectly

01:06:42.340 happy to egg this along, to justify it, to give credence to these insane justifications

01:06:49.480 where, you know, they'll say, oh, kill the boar.

01:06:52.760 It's just a protest song.

01:06:55.440 It's an anthem of, like, historical resistance.

01:07:00.420 And you just really want to look up.

01:07:01.780 That's what's so amazing, because when they're chanting, and I post this, and I post the size

01:07:07.260 of some of these protests, because people don't realize there are these rallies that are going

01:07:10.640 on, and they'll say, you know, they can't realize how big it is.

01:07:13.180 It's enormous, thousands and thousands.

01:07:15.600 Because Trump rallies, some even bigger than Trump rallies.

01:07:18.040 And the people coming in.

01:07:19.860 But again, when it's kill the boar, kill the white farmer, it's, we're told this must 0.62

01:07:24.500 be put in context.

01:07:25.920 This must be understood through nuance.

01:07:28.720 And to say, okay, well, you're targeting white people.

01:07:30.940 Oh, my gosh.

01:07:32.120 Is that a dog whistle?

01:07:33.600 Is that a dog whistle, Posobiec?

01:07:35.580 Are you dog whistling against it?

01:07:37.480 What do you mean?

01:07:38.120 And I'm just saying that I think it seems like you guys want to genocide all the whites. 0.92

01:07:42.020 And oh, my gosh.

01:07:43.080 Look at this fascist, this neo-Nazi extremist.

01:07:46.400 Wait a minute.

01:07:46.880 I'm just describing the things that he's saying on stage.

01:07:50.180 And so you kind of get into it.

01:07:52.260 Liberation parallax.

01:07:53.580 You know, it's not true, and it's good that it's happening.

01:07:56.220 Now, keep in mind, like, I think about eight years ago or so, like, Ole Miss told people

01:08:02.940 to stop playing Dixie at football games, because, like, that was a dog whistle.

01:08:07.760 Because it's just, it's a song about the South that is from before the Civil War.

01:08:14.100 And that's really it.

01:08:15.360 That's all it is.

01:08:16.380 And, like, that was bad.

01:08:17.100 Like, that was a racist song.

01:08:18.740 But, yeah, like, Kill the Boar, that is a, that's a nuanced historical thing.

01:08:22.600 I love to do this.

01:08:23.420 I think I've done this before.

01:08:24.680 But you can read the lyrics.

01:08:26.320 Just look up the lyrics to Kill the Boar on Wikipedia.

01:08:28.760 They're still there for now.

01:08:30.260 These are the lyrics to Kill the Boar in English, not leaving anything out.

01:08:34.860 The cowards are scared.

01:08:37.680 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:39.280 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:40.560 The cowards are scared.

01:08:42.600 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:43.500 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:44.620 Shoot the boar.

01:08:45.760 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:46.600 Shoot the boar.

01:08:47.540 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:48.740 Shoot the boar.

01:08:49.800 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:50.840 Shoot the boar.

01:08:52.020 Shoot, shoot.

01:08:54.660 Shoot.

01:08:55.360 Wow, so many layers of meaning.

01:08:57.600 So much, so much nuance.

01:08:59.560 The cowards are scared.

01:09:00.820 I think, I wish we, I wish we could go on, I wish we could go on for more of this.

01:09:04.680 but I got to jet to my next thing here, man.

01:09:07.140 Victor Orban's calling me from the next room.

01:09:09.820 All right.

01:09:10.320 You have a good time there, Jack.

01:09:13.140 Support the Turning Point world overseas.

01:09:18.140 Always supporting the Turning Point world.

01:09:19.920 And folks, as always, wherever you are in the world,

01:09:22.420 go out there and commit more thought crimes.

01:09:25.600 Thought crime is death.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 31, 2025

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