THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 86 — Battle of the Bill(ionaires)
Episode Stats
Length
1 hour and 3 minutes
Words per Minute
180.84111
Summary
Tyler, Blake, and Jack celebrate the 13th anniversary of Turning Point, discuss the Epstein scandal, and discuss Elon Musk's pinned tweet on the Elon Musk pinned post on the X by Elon tweet. Plus, a new political party?
Transcript
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DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.
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Yeah, it's... I don't know if there's anything to prove wrong.
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Jack's having fun. Okay, Jack, tell us how great today is.
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I think it's hilarious. I think it's great on so many levels, right?
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You know, is it a bump in the road? For sure it's a bump in the road.
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But this is what happens when you have coalition politics.
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If you study history, and Blake, I'm sure, could rattle off a dozen examples
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off the top of his head, of coalition politics that go through this
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after the coalition achieves victory, that go through some growing pains,
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that go through some leadership challenges, which there's clearly is,
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And it's always going to happen. It was inevitable.
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I think this is something where, you know, no company can have two CEOs.
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And, you know, a country has to be run by a chain of command.
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And so if this was always going to happen, fine.
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Then might as well happen within the first couple months of the first year
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rather than, oh, I don't know, like right before an election
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Charlie, today's a great day we should be celebrating.
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Everyone expected this to blow up way sooner than it actually did.
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There's no person that's had a stronger, more great relationship
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with the president than Turning Point and Charlie and everyone else.
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This is the one thing that I want to point out.
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It happened just like on Cosmic, you know, the stars aligned
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And the only, you know, the only relationship that's persisted
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through all the Trump years that's big and organizational and influential
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I think a lot of people expected the Elon thing to blow up
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It's just big because he's the richest guy on the planet.
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And like you mentioned, Charlie, Trump's the most powerful guy
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And so it's just going to be a little bit uglier than normal.
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But, you know, these things happen and they change.
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And we should say, like, I think a lot is going to matter
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in the months to come because this could easily...
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This could be literally in, you know, a matter of days.
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They calm down a bit and, you know, the bill moves on
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and they either bury the hatchet or stop sniping each other.
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But right now, the pinned post on X by Elon is,
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is it time to create a new political party in America
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I don't think it would be that easy to just create
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But if you attempt to do it, you can greatly shake up
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but it actually is really easy to create a new political party.
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because you don't need to have it be super sustainable.
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It doesn't even have to be in very many states.
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I don't want to, like, I don't want to be that guy.
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Now, there have been parties that have been created.
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The question is about how to do it the right way.
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is that they might figure out how to do it the right way.
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I think it would damage most immediately the Republican party.
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Wait, so I'm trying, so then Corrine Jean-Pierre says
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she's becoming an independent yesterday, and then today...
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like, just to be clear, Corrine Jean-Pierre is extremely stupid.
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Well, hold on, no, Corrine says she's becoming an independent yesterday,
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I'm going to create a new independent third party.
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It's just, like, it's just amazing how it's all happening
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What's interesting to me is usually when you hear these,
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oh, let's create a party that represents the middle,
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you hear it from sort of these bland, centrist,
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like, politicians or businessmen who aren't famously political,
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he's become this utterly reviled figure on the American left
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You had people burning Teslas, vandalizing Tesla dealerships,
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would the left be remotely willing to forgive him?
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You want to talk about, like, the arc of non-forgiveness?
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The left created non-forgiveness, for instance.
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but it does mean that if Elon were to create a new party,
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because the left is not going to defect for this.
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that has made it its priority to destroy Tesla,
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because one of the things that Musk and Trump have in common
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is the left wants to put both of them in prison.
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it would mostly hurt the right if it did happen.
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There's a lot of tweets that have been made today.
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without me, Trump would have lost the election.
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this is going after where Trump is going to go nuclear.
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Trump can forgive, actually, quite a few things,
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11.37, Trump makes his first truth social post.