Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 90 — The Epstein Nothingburger？ Death by DEI？ Celebrity AI Scams？

00:00:00.140 From the age of Big Brother.

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00:00:19.180 Well, folks, we're back here.

00:00:21.220 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard for another edition of Thought Crime Thursday.

00:00:26.200 Jack Posobiec here.

00:00:27.260 Charlie Kirk is going to be joining us in just a minute.

00:00:30.380 He's flying in, but it's been a pretty quiet week around here.

00:00:35.260 Go around the horn, not much in the news, but I believe we have Blake and Tyler.

00:00:40.620 What's up, guys?

00:00:41.620 Howdy.

00:00:42.420 Yeah, has anything happened this week?

00:00:43.620 Yeah, not a lot.

00:00:44.780 I mean, we're just looking forward to SAS.

00:00:45.780 Well, the biggest news, ahead of SAS, we're going to SAS this weekend,

00:00:50.920 Turning Point Student Action Summit over at Tampa, Florida.

00:00:54.580 Super excited.

00:00:55.400 But the biggest news, of course, was, guys, case closed on Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:01.040 My goodness, you know, we all were waiting for the answers.

00:01:04.180 And, boy, did we get all the answers that we were looking for and promised.

00:01:08.440 And, gosh, I can't even think of any more questions that I have.

00:01:11.980 No, I'm satisfied.

00:01:12.980 This one is case closed.

00:01:14.380 Time to move on.

00:01:15.300 What do you say, folks?

00:01:16.660 Turns out that binder was the end of the road.

00:01:19.680 Yeah, that's what it was.

00:01:21.380 Yeah, everything that was in there, man, that was exactly what was promised.

00:01:26.860 Full transparency on Epstein.

00:01:27.900 I guess there's nothing else for us.

00:01:29.200 Full transparency.

00:01:29.720 Total transparency.

00:01:31.620 Yeah.

00:01:32.560 Yeah.

00:01:33.060 I mean, look, you know, I get that this has been, like, a debate.

00:01:36.620 And I think this is something, obviously, Charlie's been talking about all week.

00:01:40.700 Obviously, like Dana Bash is on CNN, like, playing clips of me talking about it this week

00:01:45.680 regarding some of my comments regarding our illustrious attorney general.

00:01:50.480 And, you know, look, part of this, though, I think is it's the comm strategy part of it, too.

00:01:58.100 It's, like, the way you communicate and the way that you treat people.

00:02:05.000 And, you know, it's been a huge issue.

00:02:06.560 But, look, when it comes down to it, you know, this isn't good enough.

00:02:09.560 And I think that's really the bottom line is this is just not good enough.

00:02:12.820 And when you're in public life, you know, you can set expectations.

00:02:18.580 You always have to set expectations.

00:02:20.020 But, you know, my rule of thumb, if I'm trying to set expectations, is under-promise, over-deliver.

00:02:28.460 Under-promise, over-deliver.

00:02:29.820 Well, here, Jack, before you—let's actually play that clip of yours.

00:02:33.120 I think it'd be pretty good.

00:02:34.040 Let's get—let's show clip 379.

00:02:37.480 Oh, we have it?

00:02:38.320 That led to a lot of frustration online and elsewhere among people who are pretty influential with the MAGA base.

00:02:46.720 Here's just a sampling.

00:02:47.600 She says that we don't need to hear about Jeffrey Epstein ever again.

00:02:52.620 You know what this sounds like?

00:02:53.980 I'm going to tell you exactly what this sounds like.

00:02:55.900 Pam Bondi sounds like Hillary Clinton right now. 1.00

00:02:58.580 If you're MAGA, those are fighting words to talk about Pam Bondi as Hillary Clinton. 0.59

00:03:07.180 Hillary Clinton.

00:03:08.680 Oh, my God.

00:03:09.560 That is—that's like—

00:03:11.700 Oh, man.

00:03:12.020 That's quite the slur.

00:03:13.300 Holy cow. 0.89

00:03:13.800 Yeah, no, look, I knew that—I knew that that would be effective for a number of reasons, but, you know, not only because Hillary, of course, as we know, and the Clintons were directly involved with Epstein, but, you know, this—this also this idea that, you know, that it was Hillary.

00:03:31.320 Remember, Hillary was someone who was saying that, oh, oh, you know, on Benghazi, you know, at this point, what difference does it even make?

00:03:42.580 What difference does it even make?

00:03:44.080 She was—this was this famous, you know, and I actually had a couple of reporters reach out to me after I did this, you know, this clip.

00:03:50.380 And they said, what do you mean she sounds like Hillary? 0.95

00:03:52.600 What does that mean?

00:03:53.160 So the left doesn't even understand how big of a phrase that is on the right.

00:03:58.440 This was something that even decades later that, you know, even decades later that we still talk about.

00:04:05.560 What it means is that Hillary Clinton, during the Benghazi debacle, when people were asking, why didn't you deploy the Quick Response Force, why didn't you deploy all of these assets that we had around the Mediterranean and other parts of the Middle East when Benghazi was under attack from this huge terrorist attack just weeks before the election in 2012?

00:04:26.240 Why didn't you or the, you know, Barack Obama deploy these forces, which, by the way, you know, you don't need the president's order to do that.

00:04:36.340 You can just, you know, they would just deploy automatically.

00:04:39.220 She flips out in the House and says, at this point, what difference does it even make?

00:04:46.580 And just starts banging the table.

00:04:48.480 And I said, man, that's what it sounds like what I'm getting from the attorney general right now.

00:04:54.140 I believe, I believe, guys, do we have Charlie?

00:04:56.880 Is Charlie in now?

00:04:57.880 I am here.

00:04:58.740 Hello.

00:04:59.300 And I'm wearing my Rush Was Right t-shirt.

00:05:02.240 Dude, I need one of those t-shirts.

00:05:03.820 We're not getting that t-shirt.

00:05:04.820 By the way, we're going to sell out.

00:05:05.820 It's like the most popular one we ever made.

00:05:07.140 Rush Was Right.

00:05:07.780 People love it.

00:05:08.540 Oh, yeah.

00:05:09.100 Like, if you don't save one of those for me, we're going to have problems.

00:05:11.140 This is a true story.

00:05:11.740 And the design is spectacular.

00:05:12.320 My uncle brought a bunch of books to our 4th of July thing, just like old books.

00:05:17.220 And someone has a prank, had given him the 1996 Al Franken book attacking Rush Limbaugh.

00:05:24.080 Obviously, it says a lot of nice things about Rush Limbaugh.

00:05:25.940 But the real, I looked at it, and what was fascinating was just what a time capsule it was.

00:05:29.560 Like, what stuff people cared about.

00:05:31.960 He spends a lot of the book talking about, I believe, Phil Graham.

00:05:34.720 I don't know the last time I've thought about Phil Graham.

00:05:36.980 I don't even know who it is Phil Graham.

00:05:37.700 He was a Republican contender for the presidency in 1996.

00:05:41.640 I think he, I can't even remember what office he was.

00:05:43.680 Wait, hold on.

00:05:45.680 No, you mean the guy from Tennessee, right?

00:05:48.660 Maybe.

00:05:49.240 I actually can't remember who he is.

00:05:50.720 You mean the reverse mortgage guy.

00:05:51.920 Maybe.

00:05:52.240 No, you mean Fred something.

00:05:54.480 No, no.

00:05:55.540 There's William Philip Graham.

00:05:57.060 It was an American.

00:05:58.040 He represented Texas.

00:06:00.120 And wow.

00:06:01.020 Yeah, I, he's still alive.

00:06:02.540 Wow.

00:06:03.300 He started as a Democrat, switched to the Republicans.

00:06:06.640 Fred Thompson.

00:06:07.780 Yeah, you're thinking of Fred Thompson.

00:06:08.800 No, this is Phil Graham, 1996.

00:06:10.860 He was a presidential nominee contender.

00:06:13.160 And man, I don't know if he's, he referred to the 2016 election as scary because he didn't like Trump very much.

00:06:23.340 But no, he's like, he's like this guy getting really singled out in this 1996 Al Franken book.

00:06:27.900 So sorry about the detour there.

00:06:29.220 Things they used to worry about.

00:06:30.720 So, so I do want to ask, so Blake, you are obviously, you know, Blake, you believe that Epstein killed himself.

00:06:36.360 Probably.

00:06:36.960 That he wasn't as bad people as people thought.

00:06:38.620 Well, no, no, hold on.

00:06:40.060 That, that makes it sound weird.

00:06:41.640 No, what I would say is I've always been open.

00:06:44.180 Defend yourself.

00:06:44.740 I have always been open to the, I call it the un-conspiracy for Jeffrey Epstein.

00:06:49.760 Okay.

00:06:50.060 So obviously he's been a figure for like 20 years at this point.

00:06:54.020 There have been like rumors swirling about Epstein, these claims that he did, you know, sweeping blackmail, that he did all this predatory stuff.

00:07:02.120 And of course, allegedly linked with, you know, our intelligence or someone else's intelligence.

00:07:06.180 You can go on.

00:07:06.980 And I thought, what if the answer to it is the un-conspiracy, that Epstein was a charismatic guy, so he was very good at making, and maybe, maybe even like a really good liar.

00:07:18.740 So he was very good at making people think he was wealthier than he was, although he was still clearly wealthy, that he was more connected than he was.

00:07:26.460 He maybe was very good at making people think he had these ties to intelligence.

00:07:31.060 And what you'll find if you like dig into history is people like that are kind of a recurring feature of life.

00:07:38.220 I don't want to name him because he's a bit litigious, but like there's a guy in kind of right-wing circles who like would always tell people like he was linked to the FBI, and it appears that he was just constantly making that up.

00:07:50.100 So maybe what you have with Epstein, for example, is, oh, he's getting in trouble with Florida, as he was, you know, back in the late 2000s, but he's able to use his connections to sort of make everybody think, oh, this guy's linked with intelligence.

00:08:05.620 We shouldn't, you know, go delve too deep into that.

00:08:10.060 And so what you have is a guy who he associated with a lot of rich people, and he did, you know, obviously he pursued underage girls, but maybe all of the additional stuff, all of the like blackmail traps is not as spectacular as people were hoping for.

00:08:25.280 The best argument, and I like, Jack, that this is overblown, again, I'm not taking any position on this, is that all these law firms like Boyce, Schiller, and others, they were very invested in trying to find a criminal network here, and they were unable to do that, basically.

00:08:43.880 I mean, with dozens of clients and years of work, lawyers sued all of just two celebrities, Alan Dershowitz, who they had to apologize to in a $0 settlement when the only person accusing him turned out to be unreliable and someone who the government couldn't dare to call to stand trial, and Prince Andrew, who settled with exactly one punitive victim lucky enough to get a photo with him, probably finding it cheaper than the reputation hit an inconvenience of being dragged into America in a headlines for a month in a he-said-she-said case.

00:09:11.560 The point, I guess there is an argument to be made that, this is your argument about Diet Coke, right?

00:09:17.000 That trial lawyers will eventually find out if there is fire?

00:09:20.300 Yeah!

00:09:21.080 Would that be your contention here?

00:09:22.460 You could make a lot of money if Bill Gates abused somebody meeting with Jeffrey Epstein, oh, you know, a guy who has $100 billion to soak from, and they can't find a victim, they can't find any case to bring against him.

00:09:39.000 Something that, as simple as if they had to settle to make the case go away, it's, yeah, it's the unconspiracy.

00:09:46.140 To me, it's not about that, though.

00:09:48.980 It's the fact that if Jeffrey Epstein was in trouble, and he had all these really famous friends that he brought with him, right, the immediate natural reaction would be for him to include all those people in the trouble that he's in.

00:10:01.500 And why would you kill yourself without having, you know, explained where all these people were, that they came down?

00:10:10.540 Like, it just doesn't make any kind of sense.

00:10:12.380 Like, there's been so many particular pieces of evidence when someone kills themselves that they almost always leave some kind of note or explanation or something to talk about.

00:10:26.280 And he basically sat quiet in silence and then didn't talk about any of this.

00:10:31.040 Well, I guess one of the ways, so here is a piece of information that I think could be released that would not satisfy, Blake wouldn't care.

00:10:39.980 But it would be interesting.

00:10:41.280 Who were the other prisoners on Jeffrey Epstein's cell block?

00:10:44.240 Right.

00:10:44.640 There's no reason why we should not have that information.

00:10:46.780 Everyone should know that.

00:10:47.580 Because basically their argument is, well, Jeffrey Epstein killed himself because no one is able to access the floor.

00:10:54.060 Okay, we agree.

00:10:55.020 That actually, I think, has been, you know, verified.

00:10:58.920 Got it.

00:10:59.740 Okay, so then if he were to have been killed by somebody else and did not kill himself, it would have had to have been a prison guard, highly unlikely, because, I mean, just...

00:11:09.580 So then it's likely another prisoner.

00:11:11.440 And so then here's where it gets a little sus.

00:11:13.420 Because every time someone tries to ask who the other prisoners are, they're like, sorry, that's a privacy violation.

00:11:18.620 Okay, so you guys have like a HIPAA law for prisoners or something?

00:11:21.460 Is it? Is there?

00:11:21.780 No, it's legit.

00:11:22.580 According to Tucker.

00:11:23.460 According to Tucker, he said that he's tried to find out who the other prisoners on the cell block were.

00:11:28.600 So that's a very important...

00:11:30.660 And so if I were to, you know, just try to give some open advice, that's a piece of information that I think would be really helpful.

00:11:36.920 Yeah, how is that private, though?

00:11:39.040 What is the law that protects prisoners?

00:11:40.320 Apparently there's like a Federal Prisoner Privacy Act.

00:11:42.160 Seriously?

00:11:42.480 Again, you guys have to fact check me on this.

00:11:43.920 Every time someone has tried to...

00:11:45.020 That's surprising.

00:11:45.740 Every...

00:11:46.060 And by the way, all those prisoners were like reassigned within days.

00:11:48.860 Oh, yeah.

00:11:49.280 But we still know.

00:11:50.100 There's a record somewhere.

00:11:51.460 Somebody knows who was on that cell block.

00:11:53.160 Well, it's not a long-term holding facility, correct?

00:11:55.800 No, it's not.

00:11:56.500 No, of course.

00:11:57.200 But the point being is that there was somebody there, and that somebody might be free now.

00:12:02.480 That somebody might have gotten some weird plea deal somewhere down the road.

00:12:05.340 So if you want to, like, to find a focus of this energy, kind of find the energy of who were the prisoners on Jeffrey Epstein's cell block.

00:12:13.820 Totally.

00:12:13.960 And I think that's part of what the harm is, is that...

00:12:16.880 I know Jack wants to come in here soon, so I won't go long.

00:12:18.920 But it's that...

00:12:20.920 I think there was a lot of energy put into this, but it was very general energy.

00:12:25.580 And frankly, I think there's an issue where a lot of people, like, overpromise.

00:12:29.120 Like, people just...

00:12:29.760 They talked a lot about how, oh, we are definitely going to get to the bottom of this big conspiracy.

00:12:34.980 And that, frankly, has happened a good amount of times in, like, the wider conservative movement.

00:12:41.740 They'll really fixate on something.

00:12:43.280 You know, Benghazi 10 years ago.

00:12:45.660 Or, frankly, like, the crossfire hurricane stuff.

00:12:48.580 Any of the special investigators that they have going.

00:12:51.320 People get hyped up that there's going to be this big revelation that blows everything open.

00:12:57.860 People died.

00:12:58.780 People did die.

00:13:00.020 But, like, I think people often get hyped that there will be more stuff that comes out.

00:13:06.360 And then when that doesn't happen, and most of the time it doesn't happen, they feel really betrayed.

00:13:10.460 Hold on.

00:13:11.100 Yes.

00:13:11.560 And so I think that's a good validation because, and I think this is important,

00:13:16.340 that, like, transparency advocates who tend to be more libertarian online and young.

00:13:22.500 So people that care about transparency tend to skew more libertarian, just skeptical of government power.

00:13:27.900 Yeah.

00:13:28.160 More young and online.

00:13:29.780 They voted for Trump in big numbers.

00:13:31.420 And their expectations were set very high, as some administration officials said there was going to be, like, this massive dramatic release.

00:13:40.700 Does that make sense?

00:13:41.600 Yes.

00:13:41.760 So, again, this, I'm not making.

00:13:43.680 I mean, the client list.

00:13:45.060 The idea is there's, like, oh, here's the 50 names of.

00:13:47.420 So you have a built-in kind of, and I'm trying to explain this to some boomers.

00:13:52.760 I will say, though, that on our program it is multigenerational.

00:13:55.040 The anger and the outrage is multigenerational.

00:13:56.720 But I'd say the focus is just definitely the younger, the libertarian, the online folks.

00:14:01.540 They voted for Trump in, like, record numbers.

00:14:03.740 Yeah.

00:14:03.880 One of the main reasons is, like, hey, at least this guy is going, you know, he got shot.

00:14:07.500 He's not, they're trying to get rid of him, like, you know, this whole thing.

00:14:10.920 And so then you had administration officials saying, like, hey, I have the client list on my desk.

00:14:16.960 There's, like, a trunk load of stuff.

00:14:18.320 And it wasn't just one person.

00:14:19.640 It was several administration officials.

00:14:21.420 It was not just one.

00:14:22.520 Yeah.

00:14:22.980 Instead, it should have been, like, hey, this could have been diffused by 99%.

00:14:27.080 This was my advice to them.

00:14:28.360 If they would have been, like, guys, we just took office.

00:14:30.980 I don't want to get your expectations up, but we're starting to look through this.

00:14:34.260 This is honestly a little more lackluster.

00:14:36.540 And, like, give us some time to go through it.

00:14:37.900 It's going to take some time.

00:14:38.920 But honestly, like, it's not what you think it is.

00:14:42.440 If they would have just said that, it would have just been a huge diffusion.

00:14:46.200 Where does anger come from?

00:14:48.060 Where does anger come from when you vacation, when you go out to eat, when your expectations don't hit reality?

00:14:54.380 Yep.

00:14:54.800 And so if you go to a nice restaurant and all of a sudden they serve you, you know, KFC, you're like,

00:15:00.720 what the heck?

00:15:01.580 I'm paying a big...

00:15:02.900 And with movies.

00:15:04.620 I mean, you've got to see this at airports when people's flights are delayed, right?

00:15:07.160 Yep.

00:15:07.420 When expectations and reality are out of alignment, you get Carnival Cruise Line.

00:15:13.680 To your point, Charlie, one of the ways to diffuse this is, like, they could have done, over the course of the last six months,

00:15:20.820 the work, to say, here, we didn't find anything, or there's issues here going on, but here are all the prisoners we're releasing.

00:15:30.580 Like, the president could do that.

00:15:32.020 The president could come out and say, here are all the individuals that were on the block,

00:15:35.640 and we're investigating all these people to figure out what's going on with that.

00:15:39.400 That would have brought a lot more trust into the room, for sure, than doing it the way they did it.

00:15:44.260 And setting improper expectations and then blowing it out.

00:15:47.240 I know a little something about the way that it was done.

00:15:51.760 What do you know?

00:15:53.080 You know, the...

00:15:54.460 Well, I know that I was brought to the White House for a series of policy briefings,

00:16:00.400 and along with a number of other conservative individuals, Mike Cernovich is there,

00:16:06.420 Scott Pressler was there, Safer Hernandez, the great Liz Wheeler,

00:16:10.040 you know, D.C. Drano just lives at TikTok, people, everybody knows, everybody knows these guys.

00:16:16.220 And we were told that we were going to be meeting with a group of cabinet secretaries.

00:16:21.040 We met with Secretary Rubio, with Secretary Kennedy, the great Bobby Kennedy.

00:16:26.580 We met with Vice President, and even the president himself actually did us the incredible honor of visiting.

00:16:33.620 But then when A.G. Bondi came in, she brought with her this set of binders and said,

00:16:41.600 hey, guys, you all want the Epstein files, right?

00:16:44.380 And we're sort of looking around going, well, no one said anything about Epstein on the agenda today.

00:16:50.760 But sure, we all want to know that.

00:16:53.120 We were familiar with the story.

00:16:54.920 And, you know, we'd love to see them.

00:16:56.820 And then she directs her staff and says, well, guys, here's the Epstein files, phase one, and I'm giving it directly to you.

00:17:05.720 And then immediately after that, we don't really have time to go through these huge binders with all these names in them.

00:17:12.340 And, you know, we can't quite figure out whether this is new stuff or old stuff.

00:17:18.420 And it turned out it was all old stuff.

00:17:20.000 These things were full of baloney.

00:17:21.240 But then right after that, we get pushed out through the portico entrance of the West Wing,

00:17:28.940 right where the entire international media was, you know, assembled for Keir Stommer's visit.

00:17:37.000 And so we have all of these pictures of us with these binders that at that point, we hadn't – we were told that they were under embargo,

00:17:44.920 that we couldn't look into them, we couldn't report about them, we couldn't even get it out there.

00:17:48.600 So, again, if people want to talk about where did the hype come from, you know, where was the hype train?

00:17:54.260 Well, it's – again, you know, this was the way that it was rolled out.

00:17:57.680 And we were always told that there's going to be phase two, phase three, phase four.

00:18:02.480 So by the time I actually looked through it, you know, it took a couple of minutes to sit down and said, wait a minute, this stuff is already out before.

00:18:07.760 Where's the rest of it?

00:18:08.940 You know, we kept being told over and over that more was coming, that it hadn't been declassified yet.

00:18:14.080 And it was just a complete break of trust, a complete and absolute break of trust, especially for, you know, a group of people like us who – look, we were invited there.

00:18:25.240 We came because we wanted to help.

00:18:26.680 We came because we wanted to show support.

00:18:28.680 We wanted to do what we do every day.

00:18:30.080 But more importantly, we wanted to get justice for the victims and actually justice for the girls who were involved here.

00:18:36.600 So, you know, what can I say?

00:18:39.020 People ask, oh, are you angry?

00:18:40.240 I say, yeah, I'm very angry.

00:18:41.380 I'm very angry because, you know, I feel like I was used for a political stunt.

00:18:46.460 So one idea I might have, what if a driving force of how kind of ineptly they did this with the phase two, phase three is whoever is involved in laying this out.

00:18:56.740 It's probably not directly Pam Bondi or whoever deciding what their messaging is on this.

00:19:02.320 It might be someone lower.

00:19:03.400 What if the problem is they have a lot of really intense true believers at the second level?

00:19:09.920 So they kind of assumed there would be a lot more to it.

00:19:13.460 And like they overpromise because they themselves assume there will just be this treasure trove of info that they can get out.

00:19:19.640 And then they end up being extremely disappointed.

00:19:22.340 It's a possibility.

00:19:24.260 Yeah.

00:19:27.700 Jack, what would make this right?

00:19:32.320 So, you know, I don't know.

00:19:35.600 I think it necessarily make it right in that sense.

00:19:38.420 I mean, a grave injustice was done to the victims.

00:19:41.360 Has anyone apologized to you?

00:19:44.640 To me?

00:19:45.640 No.

00:19:45.920 Yes.

00:19:46.320 Oh, no.

00:19:47.060 Well, actually, I take that back.

00:19:48.980 I take that back there when when it comes to the Department of Justice.

00:19:53.020 No.

00:19:53.460 When it comes to individuals who were involved in setting up the meeting.

00:19:58.340 Yes.

00:19:59.140 Yes.

00:19:59.460 There there definitely were apologies, not just to me, but to everyone who was involved with that.

00:20:05.260 And it was very clear, by the way, that this binder stunt was not something that had been approved or socialized with the White House in any way.

00:20:14.380 And so, you know, but that being said, because they called the meeting that, you know, the organizers from the White House side did did say that they, you know, they expressed a deep regret.

00:20:22.420 We're very sorry about about the way that that all happened.

00:20:24.880 So, yes.

00:20:25.480 So then what what do you think can make this right?

00:20:29.420 What would be I think a good action step is just tell us who the prisoners on Jeffrey Epstein's cell block were.

00:20:34.280 That's that that we can learn.

00:20:35.780 The Bureau of Prisons has that information.

00:20:37.700 You know, that's that's something, you know, I don't know that it necessarily gets to where people want.

00:20:45.380 Look, look, Charlie, the problem here right from just just a PR perspective right from a comms perspective is that, you know, we're told everything's coming.

00:20:53.240 Everything's coming.

00:20:53.860 Everything's coming.

00:20:54.520 Everything's coming.

00:20:55.120 And then, boom, that it's nothing.

00:20:56.940 And wait, so you're not even going to release like some, you know, redacted document or some transcripts and some interviews and, you know, this information, that information.

00:21:06.500 And and then, you know, the AG gets up and said, well, this is child porn.

00:21:09.320 We can't release it.

00:21:10.020 Nobody's asking you to release that.

00:21:11.620 My God, of course, we're not asking to release that.

00:21:14.240 But but, you know, the next step is, OK, well, so were there information?

00:21:19.540 Was there interviews with these victims?

00:21:21.500 Did those interviews generate any leads?

00:21:23.540 What about the search warrant when Jeffrey Epstein was arrested the first time, by the way, by the Trump administration, which which Trump never gets any credit for, that it was his administration that finally brought the actual charges against Jeffrey Epstein back in 2019?

00:21:37.860 That why not declassify the search warrant?

00:21:41.620 What was on the search warrant?

00:21:42.820 What were they going for?

00:21:43.900 What was the probable cause?

00:21:45.360 What was what was uncovered?

00:21:46.740 What wasn't uncovered?

00:21:47.820 What could still possibly be out there?

00:21:49.400 Again, all of these things.

00:21:50.540 Remember, people remember what it was like going through Russiagate and going through those investigations and the crossfire hurricane counter investigations.

00:21:58.880 And that's apparently generated some, you know, criminal referrals.

00:22:02.300 OK, great.

00:22:03.000 You know, we remember going through with a fine tooth comb all of the text messages and all the rest.

00:22:08.700 But with this, we're just told that there's nothing.

00:22:10.380 And I honestly it just seems ludicrous on its face that there would be nothing.

00:22:14.340 So you have to release something regarding the Jeffrey Epstein investigation and give people a piece of it.

00:22:22.860 No, I understand, by the way, obviously, you know, this idea that there's just a list of clients.

00:22:26.940 I mean, that's not how crime works.

00:22:28.220 That's not how criminal conspiracies work.

00:22:29.700 But the idea that there's nothing in terms of investigative files or, by the way, the original Jeffrey Epstein investigation, which was conducted by Mueller even, you know, all the way back, way back when out of the Southern District of Florida, where he was given the non-prosecution agreement, this NPA, which a judge in 2019 said was illegal in the first place.

00:22:49.660 Where are all the files from that investigation, which is, you know, a well over a decade ago?

00:22:55.100 You know, Charlie, everybody knows that these documents are out there and that the DOJ has them.

00:23:00.000 They're in the Southern District of Florida.

00:23:01.580 They're in the SDNY.

00:23:03.160 And if they if they have to be unsealed, then unseal them or make the movements to unseal them.

00:23:07.440 Just you have to release something.

00:23:09.040 You can't say there's nothing.

00:23:11.980 Final thoughts, guys.

00:23:14.200 I don't know.

00:23:14.940 I just think it'd be it'd be funny if this is like what causes this like massive fatal breakup.

00:23:21.780 I would say I would discourage people from demanding like sweeping firings over this because it's easy to demand blood.

00:23:29.060 And then you're like, oh, now we need to spend six months confirming a new attorney general.

00:23:33.200 And we already have this giant backlog on everything.

00:23:35.780 And we do have some good deputies.

00:23:37.980 But we do.

00:23:38.760 But what we also have is a very slow acting Senate that like never does anything.

00:23:43.160 It's going to be 2027 when we finally get most of the positions filled.

00:23:47.340 Yeah.

00:23:47.560 Or they'll just never be filled.

00:23:49.000 Correct.

00:23:50.520 OK, let's now go to the terrible tragedy in Texas and how DEI might have all right contributed to the death toll.

00:23:58.440 Yeah, we are.

00:23:59.900 I feel like we're the only ones hitting this.

00:24:01.800 Why is this not the national?

00:24:03.800 By the way, you know, it's so weird.

00:24:05.280 Yeah.

00:24:05.980 No one on the left is calling me a liar or a racist for it.

00:24:09.260 I think media matters.

00:24:10.720 Hit it again.

00:24:11.440 Which, you know, there are free publicity.

00:24:12.640 They're just ignore.

00:24:13.760 They're like bizarrely ignoring the story.

00:24:16.800 Yeah.

00:24:17.080 So for people who didn't see the clip on our show the other day or our tweet, what's going on here.

00:24:22.520 So they have Chief Baker is the head of I think Joel Baker is the head of the fire department in Austin, which is the nearest big city to where the floods have been going on in Texas.

00:24:35.060 So Kerrville, Texas is about an hour west of Austin.

00:24:39.780 And what his own firefighters are saying, the firefighter union in Austin is saying is he could have pre-deployed a lot of Austin firefighter assets near Kerrville to be prepared because they knew this big storm was coming.

00:24:56.580 And apparently he did not do so.

00:25:00.020 According to the union, he did not do so because he was worried that it would just be a financial issue.

00:25:07.160 It would cost them too much money to do it.

00:25:08.560 And in fact, these deployments like this are just reimbursed by the state of Texas.

00:25:13.400 But he didn't understand the concept.

00:25:15.260 They were explaining this to him and apparently it could not get through his head that this was what was going on.

00:25:19.960 And okay, he's incompetent.

00:25:21.540 That incompetent fire chiefs happen.

00:25:23.320 But where the bonus follow-up to this is, is that a decade ago, the Obama administration sued the fire department in Austin.

00:25:30.780 They said they were discriminatory, as they love to do with police departments and everything else.

00:25:35.660 And so they reached a settlement.

00:25:37.400 Pressure was on.

00:25:38.380 And lo and behold, the next appointment the city made for head of their fire department was the first black head of their fire department.

00:25:46.300 He comes out.

00:25:47.940 Clip 347.

00:25:49.720 This two-time fire chief wants to make a difference in the growing city of Austin and tells us he wants to start by bringing in more diversity.

00:25:59.540 It's important that the Austin fire department, as much as we can, reflect the community in which we serve.

00:26:06.900 I mean, so you get a more diverse fire department and you have more people unnecessarily die.

00:26:17.280 You know, it's such a shame that we...

00:26:19.540 Do we have that clip?

00:26:21.180 Because I remember I was watching this, you know, when it came out.

00:26:23.640 Because I guess the Austin Fire Association said they obviously knew about this from July 2nd.

00:26:29.020 But they said they didn't want to say anything until the bodies, the recovery operations had started to wind down.

00:26:36.860 And so on Monday of this week is when they did it.

00:26:39.180 And that clip, and I think we're going to grab it here in a minute, that is where he, you can just hear the emotion in his voice.

00:26:45.860 He said, wait a minute, we have the best rescue swimmers in the world.

00:26:50.340 And we trained for the hill country.

00:26:52.200 And we know this area from, you know, issues that have happened back in the 1980s here.

00:26:57.080 This is specifically what we trained for.

00:26:59.640 And we go to this guy who's from Atlanta.

00:27:01.840 He's not even from Texas, who doesn't understand how bad it can get there, doesn't understand or care about all the kids that are there.

00:27:08.100 And I remember watching this clip going, why is nobody talking about this?

00:27:11.400 And then so I sent it to Bannon.

00:27:12.960 I'm just like sending it everywhere.

00:27:14.080 And it's like, I just don't get why.

00:27:18.220 Well, and you know, it's typical.

00:27:19.320 It just doesn't fit the narrative.

00:27:22.360 Yeah, and it's just, I don't quite understand why there's just such silence on this.

00:27:26.940 And so Jack, walk us through the details.

00:27:29.260 How many lives potentially could have been saved here?

00:27:34.580 I mean, you know, Charlie, it's hard to say.

00:27:37.340 But you have to imagine that if you have two of those boats, you know, and they could have been doing multiple runs to and from the disaster area.

00:27:47.720 Obviously, the first run, they'd be able to hand out life jackets, that type of thing.

00:27:51.740 They'd have rescue packs.

00:27:53.340 I mean, directly who they would have targeted for the first rescue, of course, would have been the little girls who were in this bunk down by the river.

00:28:03.460 I have a little bit of training in HADR operations, humanitarian assistance, disaster relief from when I was in the Navy, just from an intel perspective, because there's always a little bit of intel input in all of these.

00:28:15.340 So I was not in those operations.

00:28:17.400 But just from my, you know, basic knowledge from being in the military is that, of course, you know, you would, you would, and having been in the Navy.

00:28:23.460 So, you know, obviously, we focus on a lot of rescue swimming, even though, you know, even though I'll shout out to my Coast Guard buddies, the Coasties really do are the best of the best when it comes to that.

00:28:32.080 That, yeah, of course, you know, women and children, right?

00:28:34.780 You're going to be focusing on that.

00:28:36.040 You obviously would go to those kids.

00:28:37.880 And even if you couldn't get them out first, you would have had the supplies for flotation devices.

00:28:42.320 You would have had supplies for potentially, you know, rubber rafts or anything.

00:28:47.020 You know, they have one of the biggest swift boat crews.

00:28:50.120 They're considered the very, very best in Texas.

00:28:53.360 And, Charlie, I mean, these deaths could have been, certainly for the kids, could have been in single digits had this order gone down or potentially even none, potentially even none.

00:29:06.480 You want to play cut 380 here?

00:29:08.260 Let's play cut 380. 0.93

00:29:10.440 Firefighters are trained for that area.

00:29:12.300 Our firefighters have the equipment.

00:29:13.900 They have the desire.

00:29:14.800 They have the will.

00:29:15.440 They have the power to go up.

00:29:17.340 And, actually, I know some of those girls could have been survived if we had had the best boat crew the day before on scene.

00:29:23.520 I know it.

00:29:24.240 I know it in my heart.

00:29:25.160 I know it as a battalion chief.

00:29:27.060 I know it as a former swift water tech myself.

00:29:30.100 And, the fact that we didn't do it and we let them down is just, it's unconscionable.

00:29:39.840 It's just a terrible situation.

00:29:42.080 And, we don't know, based on what happened at Camp Mystic, I doubt how many people could have been saved, but plenty of other people could have been saved probably, right, Blake?

00:29:50.640 Yeah, and even if one person could have been saved, like, okay, why would you decide to hire based on diversity metrics and then eventually you get things like this and eventually people die?

00:30:04.380 And, it's so hard to communicate this to people because it usually is operating in this realm of, it's hard to ever say directly, this thing happened because of this policy that we did.

00:30:15.940 Instead, it's all decay along the margins.

00:30:18.880 Think of it like, think of it, you know, like a, it's, you know, I think of it actually in terms of sports.

00:30:27.280 So, do you remember when the Packers, like, choked away that game against the Seahawks in the NFC Championship?

00:30:34.820 Yeah, which year was, like, 07?

00:30:36.700 It was 2014.

00:30:38.240 I remember it, of course.

00:30:39.720 And, the thing about it is, it was this big disaster.

00:30:41.940 We lost the NFC Championship.

00:30:42.980 But, for it to happen, about, like, 10 different things had to go wrong that were all extremely bad.

00:30:48.880 And, if any of them had not happened, that disaster wouldn't have occurred.

00:30:52.520 And, a lot of disasters with DEI are like that.

00:30:55.140 It's that you're getting decay in all these little spaces that allow a big disaster to happen.

00:31:01.220 So, it's not specifically, oh, if we had a different fire chief there, then all these lives would be saved.

00:31:07.940 But, it might be, he would be a little bit more competent.

00:31:10.740 Maybe their hiring would have been better because they wouldn't have been quite as diversity focused in all of their hiring, all of their promotions.

00:31:16.620 Maybe because they weren't doing it based on that, their training would be a little bit better.

00:31:20.280 Their preparedness would be a little bit better.

00:31:21.960 And, all of these things along the line, and you'd be saying, okay, here and there, it saves one life here, one life there.

00:31:30.360 And, we'd be talking, it'd still be a disastrous flood, but maybe it would be 80 people who died instead of 120 people.

00:31:37.560 That's 40 lives.

00:31:38.360 Yeah, I mean, you could even have a situation where, you know, if they've got one boat and one crew, they're just going out and they're checking which, you know, which cabins are closer to the river.

00:31:48.420 And, they say, hey, this cabin is closer, let's just hand out some flotation devices here.

00:31:52.740 We're going to just, you know, hey, best practices, hope you guys are ready for this.

00:31:56.620 Because, they were totally caught unawares.

00:31:58.420 Everyone was caught unawares of this.

00:32:00.060 And, if you had just had people in the area who are able to do this job and deployed them, you would have done this.

00:32:05.440 And, by the way, you know, I'm just going to say it, you know, this is the same type of thing.

00:32:10.200 And, President Trump, what was it, the first week of his administration, we had that horrific crash based on pilot error down here at Reagan National Airport when the Blackhawk, female Blackhawk pilot, just crashed into that passenger plane.

00:32:23.280 And, you had all of those kids that were on that plane coming home from an ice skating competition.

00:32:28.620 It was like a youth ice skating competition.

00:32:31.040 They were coming home.

00:32:31.840 They were all killed.

00:32:32.860 And, I remember I was with Secretary Noem.

00:32:35.520 And, that story kind of disappeared, the fact that there was a –

00:32:38.520 No, we flew – so, we were at the airport and we, you know, we were flying somewhere else.

00:32:43.080 But, we actually flew and I could see the helicopter in the water.

00:32:47.100 And, I just remember thinking it's like these things, these disasters, you know, are they getting worse?

00:32:53.980 And, you know, the left wants to say it's climate.

00:32:56.620 But, it really is what Blake is saying.

00:32:58.820 It's just this sort of like these issues along the margins are just piling up and it all comes back to – and, yes, that did come out that it was pilot error.

00:33:06.840 And, yes, it was the New York Times that put that all out based on a very exhaustive investigation of everything that went in.

00:33:14.140 I'm sure there were other errors as well.

00:33:16.120 But, that's why you really have to ask questions about what's going on when we have policies like this in place.

00:33:20.420 But, just to repeat it, like DEI, we know, ruins the culture of excellence.

00:33:24.500 And, there's no way that excellence can coexist with diversity, equity, inclusion.

00:33:29.020 They cannot coexist.

00:33:29.820 Your top priority is either excellence or your top priority is something else.

00:33:34.300 And, when DEI is your chosen, it is your other priority.

00:33:37.280 That is your top priority.

00:33:37.840 And, so, just to be clear, this fire chief from Atlanta said, I want to try to make the Austin Fire Department blacker, essentially.

00:33:44.600 More diverse.

00:33:45.140 He also said gayer.

00:33:46.120 He wanted to make it gayer, too.

00:33:47.440 Ah, gayer and blacker. 1.00

00:33:48.360 Yeah.

00:33:48.540 And, in the pursuit of gay and blackness, then, all of a sudden, you stop to have excellence. 0.97

00:33:54.680 This guy did not earn his way to the top.

00:33:56.280 DEI means didn't earn it. 0.78

00:33:57.760 So, and just, Blake, I want to make sure I'm not misquoting anything.

00:34:01.040 Who's accusing him here?

00:34:02.920 I believe it's the, like, the Austin Firefighters Union.

00:34:05.480 His own rank and file people.

00:34:06.920 The Austin Firefighters Union wants to hold a vote of no confidence.

00:34:09.620 I don't think that means anything other than, like, a formal.

00:34:12.200 No, they had a quote, though, too.

00:34:13.840 Where their quote was that they tried to explain the reimbursement thing, and they didn't understand it.

00:34:18.540 Like, they sat down with him, like, hey, if we send this stuff out to Kerrville, then the cost will be reimbursed.

00:34:25.980 And, today, I don't think he knew the word reimbursement.

00:34:28.440 He said, he said, Charlie, I have the exact quote.

00:34:30.560 I explained the reimbursement process to Chief Baker last week, and he failed to understand this very simple concept.

00:34:39.160 That doesn't understand the word reimbursement.

00:34:41.860 Not a shocker.

00:34:42.480 Here is former Houston City Board official Sadie Perkins, appointed by a Democrat who sparks outrage over saying, well, Mystic was a whites-only conservative Christian camp.

00:34:54.660 You've got to wonder that, was there a reason?

00:34:56.860 Did they fail to deploy resources out to Kerrville because of some pent-up resentment towards white people?

00:35:04.560 I wouldn't go that far, but I think.

00:35:06.360 I'm asking the question, but.

00:35:08.560 Charlie, we have a lot of.

00:35:09.920 But does this guy hate white people?

00:35:11.540 I don't know.

00:35:12.040 He doesn't know what a reimbursement is.

00:35:13.660 There's a general sentiment that there is race war type stuff that happens outside the Houston area.

00:35:19.300 Imagine if a white fire chief in Birmingham, Alabama, failed to deploy fire stuff two to three days in advance of a black neighborhood or a black camp. 0.99

00:35:30.660 They would say that then, and I think it would be untrue to say it.

00:35:33.700 But we have this piece of tape.

00:35:35.260 You've got to listen to the tape.

00:35:36.280 Play cut 363.

00:35:38.080 I know I'm probably going to get canceled for this, but Camp Mystic is a whites-only girls' Christian camp. 0.98

00:35:46.600 They don't even have a token Asian.

00:35:50.280 They don't have a token black person.

00:35:52.320 It is a all-white, white-only, conservative Christian camp.

00:35:58.280 If you ain't white, you ain't right. 1.00

00:35:59.820 You ain't getting in.

00:36:00.560 You ain't going.

00:36:01.940 Period.

00:36:02.420 And I think that context needs to be said in this matter.

00:36:09.240 It's not to say that we don't want the girls to be found, whatever girls that are missing or whatever right now.

00:36:15.220 But you best believe, especially in today's political climate, if this were a group of Hispanic girls, especially with them being in East Texas, it should be most likely Hispanic.

00:36:27.500 If this were a group of Hispanic girls out there, this would not be getting this type of coverage that they're getting. 1.00

00:36:33.620 Look, I think Blake's probably right to say, look, we can't say definitively that this black DEI chief that didn't understand the word reimbursement, you know, according to, again, allegedly, according to the accusation now publicly, you know, published, was that really the harbor, you know, white, anti-white resentment?

00:36:53.660 But there is a lot of anti-white resentment in this country.

00:36:57.360 And let's just let me just hypothetical, Blake.

00:37:00.280 If all of a sudden a flood zone was going to go after the blackest county in Texas, would this DEI chief have blamed reimbursements?

00:37:08.740 Would he have blamed cost?

00:37:10.200 That's a good that's a better question, isn't it?

00:37:12.460 Would he have gone above and beyond if it wasn't anywhere but basically a very white area of Kerrville?

00:37:19.240 I don't want to racialize this stuff.

00:37:21.380 They're bringing it to our forefront.

00:37:23.660 Well, one piece of information.

00:37:27.060 No, I think these are the types of questions that, unfortunately, we have to start asking again because the left has spent a decade plus asking them and demanding that we look at the systemic inequalities of every decision, everything that goes down.

00:37:41.780 You know, when the George Floyd situation happens with Derek Chauvin and they immediately racialized this and put it to the entire put the entire country through this gaping inferno because of this.

00:37:54.960 And it comes out that actually the guy had, you know, a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system and he had a heart tumor to begin with.

00:38:02.640 You know, it didn't matter.

00:38:03.380 It didn't matter to them.

00:38:04.280 It didn't matter for the billion dollars that was lost in those riots.

00:38:07.140 It didn't matter for everything else.

00:38:08.360 That didn't matter at all.

00:38:09.200 So, what, we can't just ask the question of how they would have reacted?

00:38:13.520 No, I don't think so.

00:38:14.360 Charlie, by the way, I did want to add, though, that on this Austin fire chief that he's actually embroiled in a lawsuit right now with his former, the former chaplain of the Austin fire department.

00:38:25.120 Because the former chaplain was fired back in 2021 by the same police chief, or excuse me, the same fire chief.

00:38:32.100 Why did Joel Baker fire him?

00:38:33.700 Well, he fired the chaplain because, and it sounds like this is, you know, just made for conservative media talking point, but it's actually true.

00:38:42.800 He fired the chaplain because the chaplain wrote on his personal blog that he didn't believe that transgenders should be in women's sports.

00:38:52.060 And so, this police chief fired the chaplain, the guy who's there to, like, pray for the, you know, the firemen and the swimmers and, you know, in situations like this to be there for families and victims.

00:39:03.420 He fired him over trans in women's sports and is currently being sued under First Amendment grounds.

00:39:11.420 The Alliance for Defending Freedom is on board with this lawsuit.

00:39:15.320 That just happened a couple years ago.

00:39:16.640 Same guy.

00:39:17.980 This is woke as they come.

00:39:18.860 Well, and Charlie, the point that you're making, too, is really, I think, relevant because there is an animosity that exists, particularly in Texas, because Texas actually is the home for a lot of the cotillion-type programs that exist, the junior cotillion that exist.

00:39:36.000 And it's historically white, and it's focused on white females.

00:39:40.880 There's a huge anti-white woman resentment.

00:39:43.180 Basically, the only white conservatives that exist now go through programs like this.

00:39:48.660 Totally.

00:39:49.300 And so, this camp, this camp mystic, has a lot of that same aura, the families that do this and all that.

00:39:58.180 And there is animosity that's pent up, particularly in the Houston area, because you brought up Houston, because there is this black versus white mentality that's been crafted basically since Barack Obama was president, where it's just this stoking of racial divide and animosity that exists within the country.

00:40:16.120 And people have been angry and attacking these types of institutions for a long time, this camp that actually hit this massive tragedy is a camp that's very much associated with that type of upbringing.

00:40:29.120 And so, there is this same, like, really disgusting atmosphere that exists, and we've seen some of it online, where there have been people of different ethnicities saying, well, maybe those white girls deserve to die.

00:40:42.280 Maybe those people.

00:40:44.540 And that is the type of stuff that is tearing apart the country that we're seeing.

00:40:48.860 But it's a real problem that exists, and when you overlay it with this entire DEI hiring and everything else that you talk about that's happening in our communities, where we have prominent members of the community, and we've seen this here in Arizona, too, that utilize the moments of racial inequality or divide to let loose the standards that we need to actually run society

00:41:15.560 and then attack other members of society just, you know, basically because they're white, nothing ever gets fixed and actually spirals us into, you know, more problems. 0.99

00:41:25.280 And I'm afraid that's what's going to happen here in Texas.

00:41:27.300 You have three kids.

00:41:28.140 I have two kids.

00:41:28.740 Jack has two kids.

00:41:29.620 Andrew, not on screen, has three kids.

00:41:31.840 And just to think that any of our kids would be jeopardized because we have to be worried about being called a racist, like, screw you, actually.

00:41:38.000 Like, we're not doing that.

00:41:39.200 And this all goes back to Obama suing the Austin Police Department because it's not black enough. 0.94

00:41:45.100 They would just fire.

00:41:45.680 They did this with all of these police departments where they would say, you're racist and you're hiring.

00:41:50.320 So that's how we got, for example, Memphis Police Department.

00:41:53.740 Phoenix was hijacked by the DOJ.

00:41:56.520 Yeah.

00:41:56.800 So they basically end up with these consent decrees.

00:41:58.720 So you have to hire less qualified police who are more likely to do misconduct, more likely to do a shooting unjustified, more likely to do anything inept or corrupt because they're less qualified.

00:42:08.240 And then also, you're forced to dial back your enforcement stuff.

00:42:11.360 Oh, don't pull over people as much.

00:42:12.920 Don't arrest people as much.

00:42:13.920 Don't stop and frisk people as much.

00:42:15.460 And that directly leads to a higher murder rate. 0.89

00:42:18.260 Literally.

00:42:18.700 Absolutely.

00:42:19.160 We don't even need to speculate on this fire.

00:42:21.060 Thousands of people are dead because of what DEI did to America's crime rates and to our police departments.

00:42:25.740 Yes.

00:42:26.300 And this is just yet another example.

00:42:28.660 And by the way, I've texted all my Texas people while we're here right now.

00:42:31.780 Like, why are you guys not talking about this?

00:42:33.920 I mean, OK, yeah, I understand that there's still wreckage to be, you know, sorted out.

00:42:38.420 But this is a I mean, just to be clear, if you guys are Texans.

00:42:44.380 No.

00:42:44.840 And I mean, look, I I have a very strong opinion about kind of the LARPing Texan thing that we could do at a different time.

00:42:52.060 And Jack knows exactly what I'm talking about.

00:42:55.160 Oh, boy.

00:42:56.240 Yeah.

00:42:56.440 I was talking about it on War Room this week.

00:42:58.400 It's just the tough, tough Texas.

00:42:59.980 And just tough, tough Texas.

00:43:01.320 Just to be fair, San Antonio is closer to Kerrville.

00:43:04.040 So I think we should also find out if their fire department wasn't deployed.

00:43:07.800 But Austin is a bigger city than San Antonio.

00:43:10.380 I think actually, Austin.

00:43:12.440 It might be now.

00:43:13.540 Yeah.

00:43:14.780 It's close.

00:43:15.260 It's weird because San Antonio is bigger itself, but it eats all of its suburbs.

00:43:19.100 So, yeah, I think I think San Antonio, Austin proper is definitely bigger.

00:43:24.020 San Antonio proper is bigger, but Austin's got more real suburbs.

00:43:27.480 So got it.

00:43:28.360 OK, so for whatever reason, which one has more resources is the question.

00:43:32.500 Well, yeah, Austin's way richer.

00:43:33.680 Yeah, so therefore that's right.

00:43:35.380 Wait, wait, by the way, guys, guys, this was a statewide deployment call.

00:43:40.420 So that means San Antonio also did not send pre-deployment resources.

00:43:45.600 So it was a statewide call.

00:43:47.100 Maybe they did or it wasn't enough.

00:43:49.320 But here's the kicker.

00:43:50.940 We did not invite this.

00:43:54.720 We did not like find a random.

00:43:56.760 Here's the point.

00:43:57.860 We did not like find a random fire chief be like, oh, he's black. 0.96

00:44:01.720 No, this is his own firefighters accusing him of this.

00:44:06.420 This is this is his own rank and file that are saying this guy did not understand.

00:44:11.460 And let me just be clear.

00:44:12.500 This is a pattern.

00:44:13.580 The Los Angeles fires.

00:44:15.200 It was a bunch of lesbians running the Los Angeles fire department. 1.00

00:44:18.540 Yeah.

00:44:18.640 And the San Antonio fire chief.

00:44:21.340 Again, I don't know if she acted correctly or not, but she's a black woman. 0.96

00:44:24.460 Yep.

00:44:25.420 And so at some point, again, we don't know.

00:44:27.840 Maybe she did wonderful and maybe everyone was heroic and maybe her people think are great.

00:44:32.020 But you're looking around the room at some point, you've got to ask the question, where are the qualified people?

00:44:37.240 Well, are you there because you're qualified or there because you checked the box?

00:44:40.880 This is a scary part, Charlie, is that what they want to do to each of our communities is they want to balloon them so big that they're basically unmanageable and untenable and make it so that every suburban community basically becomes what was probably in the 50s considered a large city.

00:44:57.800 And so you're heading in a direction where you're not going to have the capacity to manage your local community, your suburbs, in the way that was once thought that you could manage with basically just direct democratic rule where you can remove people and replace people.

00:45:17.300 And so they want to get in people like this that are going to continue to destroy.

00:45:22.960 They're going to build up the communities, make them bigger and balloon them to sizes that you can't control.

00:45:27.220 But you're going to see more of like what Blake just mentioned, like these problems on the margins that continue to exist where you and I don't have a place to live because you don't want to live in a community that's even remotely close to that size.

00:45:42.940 And so what does that mean?

00:45:43.820 That means excluding normal regular citizens that want to participate in society out to the outskirts of America where you can't really have any control and they'll continue to manipulate, like communists do, the large portion of the population.

00:46:01.580 But I believe that this is actually part of their entire strategy is they want to have people like this in because it continues to push out people like us, like people that have kids, they just want to have normal lives.

00:46:13.260 I'm not living in those cities.

00:46:14.500 Are you kidding me?

00:46:15.380 But this is the problem is they continue to build up the cities and insert people like this because they know that you and I probably won't leave, right?

00:46:23.260 We're going to fight.

00:46:24.140 But there are people who leave that we've we've we know lots of people who have said, forget it.

00:46:28.620 I'm moving to the middle of nowhere and I'm going to homeschool my kids and, you know, live the farm style life because I don't want to live in a city that is going to cause me harm.

00:46:38.440 The fire chief of the town I live in just went to Harvard.

00:46:42.000 Like, what is that?

00:46:42.500 Yeah, like this is what I'm saying.

00:46:43.700 So, like, you have you have towns that are literally, again, in the 50s, a big city was in America was considered like 100,000 people.

00:46:52.720 Today, a big city in America is considered a million people.

00:46:56.040 You have most of your suburbs are far exceeding 100,000 people.

00:47:00.380 And they're inserting people that went to Harvard as a fire chief.

00:47:05.820 I know.

00:47:06.180 What is it?

00:47:06.760 He went to like the Harvard.

00:47:07.520 That's not a normal thing.

00:47:08.740 That's not normal.

00:47:09.640 I don't like this.

00:47:10.520 And I'm going to.

00:47:11.860 Yeah.

00:47:13.460 But nobody wants that.

00:47:14.700 Nobody wants that job.

00:47:15.520 Charlie, a regular person that came up to the fire ranks in McKinney, Texas or in Gilbert, Arizona or, you know, San Bernardino, California, doesn't want that job because of all the focus and pressure.

00:47:27.220 And what they want is protection based on, you know, race.

00:47:32.220 And that's the only way.

00:47:33.360 OK, five minute warning.

00:47:34.360 Let's go to AI.

00:47:35.200 All right.

00:47:35.480 Yeah, this is just a fun one.

00:47:36.500 I really wanted to hit this.

00:47:38.640 So this is a this is a billion dollar industry.

00:47:42.960 We're told this is a headline in the Hollywood Reporter yesterday.

00:47:45.680 I love you.

00:47:46.460 Send Bitcoin inside the billion dollar celebrity impersonation scam.

00:47:50.000 I have to read this quote because it's amazing.

00:47:51.560 In November, Margaret climbed into her Toyota Camry, left her husband of 10 years at their brick home in the rural south and drove an hour to a hotel where she was sure Kevin Costner was coming to meet her.

00:48:04.980 By this point, Margaret, 73, had spent months making weekly Bitcoin deposits for Costner, totaling about one hundred thousand dollars.

00:48:12.300 He had messaged her that he was using the money to set up a new production company, which she would eventually work for with him.

00:48:19.980 Margaret knew that some people would find it odd that an Oscar winner and the star of Yellowstone would need financial help from a retired office manager that he had met on Facebook.

00:48:28.280 But Margaret wasn't exactly a nobody.

00:48:31.200 She had achieved some renown for activism she'd done.

00:48:34.120 And she had even delivered a TED talk.

00:48:37.500 She was special.

00:48:39.140 And Costner saw it.

00:48:40.380 It was, of course, he was sending her AI.

00:48:43.920 Someone was sending her AI generated images.

00:48:46.340 Did she really do a TED talk?

00:48:47.900 Yes.

00:48:48.280 I mean, we don't know her real identity.

00:48:49.920 They covered it up.

00:48:50.580 I would cover up that identity.

00:48:51.760 This was some guy in Bangladesh that's like now living like a king that was like in some slum. 1.00

00:48:57.340 Right.

00:48:57.800 Now, all of a sudden, he like has slaved.

00:48:59.660 How much money do you get off her? 1.00

00:49:01.600 A hundred thousand dollars in Bitcoin.

00:49:02.960 That's a ton of money in Bangladesh.

00:49:04.180 Yeah.

00:49:04.860 A hundred K.

00:49:05.700 Wow.

00:49:06.340 That's big money.

00:49:07.200 It's like 10 years of living.

00:49:08.300 Do we have the photo here?

00:49:09.000 We have the name.

00:49:09.700 Let's get this photo up here because it's amazing.

00:49:14.120 Like this has happened before, but it's like with Photoshop and AI.

00:49:18.420 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:49:18.840 You can make this much.

00:49:19.900 Yeah.

00:49:20.720 You're making this.

00:49:21.580 This is bad.

00:49:22.840 This is really bad for civilization.

00:49:24.900 People's brains are cooked, man.

00:49:26.800 No.

00:49:28.240 Stop.

00:49:28.640 Wait, so you're actually, actually, folks, just so you know, I have actually been on vacation in Botswana all week and all of the, you know, all of the Jack Posobics that you've seen lately.

00:49:42.780 That's, that's all AI, human events daily war rooms, all AI, you know, but, but this technology here insurmountable.

00:49:50.740 Absolutely.

00:49:51.180 And there's, there's no way to defeat it.

00:49:52.600 I mean, just look at how seamless it is.

00:49:54.960 And so what's crazy.

00:49:56.600 By the way, it's so cheap to use a, like a, like a voice changer.

00:50:00.780 He couldn't even use the voice changer.

00:50:02.420 They had to hold up a picture.

00:50:04.860 Well, so they'd use both of those and like, yeah.

00:50:07.220 And they can use like AI generally.

00:50:09.920 It's really me.

00:50:09.940 I promise.

00:50:10.740 Yeah.

00:50:10.980 And you can use AI.

00:50:12.400 Terrible.

00:50:12.720 Terrible.

00:50:13.200 It's so crazy because you, this is only, right now the technology is as bad as it will ever be because it will only get better from here.

00:50:20.040 They will have better technology.

00:50:21.520 They can do the more realistic videos, more realistic photos.

00:50:24.760 They can make the voices super accurate.

00:50:27.280 They can make the text messages sound the way that they sound.

00:50:30.080 It's only going to get worse from here.

00:50:31.720 And we're going to have Charlie Kirk messaging all the people who are fans of Turning Point saying like, look, Turning Point's in trouble.

00:50:39.860 I need you to send me a hundred thousand in Bitcoin to this address.

00:50:42.880 It's already a problem.

00:50:44.140 Look at this.

00:50:44.480 This one's totally fake.

00:50:45.420 And some boomers thought it was real.

00:50:46.780 Play cut 378.

00:50:48.740 Americans have every right to be paid because it should have been done sooner. 0.83

00:50:53.060 For the longest time, corporations have been allowed to price gouge on regulated industries like insurance.

00:50:57.820 And now because of this administration, every American has a right to go to this page and request a state applied reduction to any auto insurance bill.

00:51:07.220 The subsidy lowers your payment without any loss of coverage.

00:51:11.640 All carriers have to comply.

00:51:13.600 And if you're a U.S. citizen, go do it this week.

00:51:16.120 So, first of all, it's not everything you just saw was fake.

00:51:19.280 My grandma's a diehard Charlie Kirk fan and watches Rav every single day.

00:51:24.940 I 100% guarantee you she would fall for this.

00:51:28.120 I love Grammy if you're listening right now.

00:51:31.780 She probably is.

00:51:32.700 She would probably fall for this.

00:51:34.720 And this is how I know, too, Charlie.

00:51:37.700 My grandma actually had a zillion things taken out of her bank account from the R&C stuff. 0.95

00:51:43.880 Oh, that's bad news.

00:51:45.520 And I was pissed off about it because I went through all this.

00:51:48.860 She's on a fixed income, whatever, right?

00:51:50.500 All this stuff.

00:51:51.120 But this is the kind of stuff that's going to totally take advantage of seniors.

00:51:54.200 Totally.

00:51:54.760 Wait, so this went viral on Facebook?

00:51:58.680 Millions in engagement.

00:51:59.680 Millions of you.

00:52:00.340 I have already told.

00:52:01.340 Who put it out?

00:52:02.760 Some Pakistani. 0.99

00:52:04.600 I have already told my parents.

00:52:06.520 They run these scams where they pretend to be your kids.

00:52:09.740 So I'm just like, look, it is conceivable.

00:52:13.600 We should have a passphrase that we can use if you're worried it's not actually me.

00:52:18.460 I can't remember what the passphrase was.

00:52:20.040 So I'll have to work on that one.

00:52:21.820 Don't say it on air, Blake.

00:52:23.140 Talk to your parents about what your plans would be because this is a real thing that's going to happen.

00:52:28.920 You need a safe word.

00:52:29.660 I've gotten fake calls.

00:52:31.280 They also can call from the number.

00:52:33.820 Yeah.

00:52:34.180 They can spoof the number, spoof the voice.

00:52:36.360 They can't spoof FaceTime audio or they can't spoof your apps yet.

00:52:40.080 Yet.

00:52:41.120 That's key.

00:52:42.540 And by the way, if you have any sort of concern, just hang up and call the person back.

00:52:48.100 That's thick.

00:52:49.120 All right.

00:52:49.260 We got to go.

00:52:50.540 The show was all non-AI, just for the record.

00:52:53.580 That's just what an AI version of Trevor would say.

00:52:56.080 We're going to talk about AI in a future show.

00:52:58.180 I see it getting the last.

00:52:59.720 I use AI a lot.

00:53:00.800 Last 30 days, it's getting worse, not better.

00:53:02.820 And I have a whole theory on it.

00:53:04.480 I'm key on catching stuff in it.

00:53:05.920 The slop theory is real. 1.00

00:53:07.740 It's real.

00:53:08.780 It's slower.

00:53:09.880 It's lagging.

00:53:11.020 It's also not as precise.

00:53:12.520 It's cutting corners because of the volume of interest.

00:53:15.900 You heard it here first.

00:53:17.400 All right, everybody.

00:53:17.880 See you guys next week or at SAS.

00:53:20.200 Hopefully it's SAS.

00:53:22.560 The crime is death.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 11, 2025

THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 90 — The Epstein Nothingburger？ Death by DEI？ Celebrity AI Scams？

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