THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 98 — The Comey Indictment？ Antifa Agenda？ Charlie and the Cubs？
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Summary
On this week's episode of THX: A Thought Crime Podcast, four members of the THX Posse (Andrew Colvett, Jack Posobiec, Blake Neff, Jack's brother Tyler, and Andrew's friend Andrew) join us to discuss the latest breaking news involving James Comey.
Transcript
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Hey, everybody, for this Thursday's edition of Thought Crime.
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We are here in, of course, where else would we be, the Charlie Kirk studio.
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We have four members of the Thought Crime Posse with us.
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And we are here on a day such as this where the breaking news is really a thought crime itself.
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And so when we were sort of chatting around the mic here, what did we talk about?
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The great Twitter star, Blake Neff, whose microphone is nowhere near him for some reason.
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I mean, you have to name the last one before I say what I was going to say.
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Oh, and of course, the, and of course, uh, Tylenol Boyer.
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No, that's why, that's why your mom, that's why your mom named you that, right?
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So we, so we've been obviously hosting the Charlie Kirk show here.
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We've been hosting Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec here.
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And I walk in and Blake is sitting in my chair.
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And I was like, I was like, hey, that's my chair.
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Yeah, Blake like went full like autist and you were like full Tylenol.
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And he goes, that's his, and he goes, he goes, no, this is where I sat.
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But every time we did Thought Crime, and I was like, you know what?
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And then fourth person, if we had him in studio.
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Because then you're kind of honorarily still in your weird like starship.
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Oh, you like put me in like the closet and like just come on Zoom from there.
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I do kind of wish I could see the thing behind me.
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But this is kind of similar to where you're at anyways.
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Because when you're remote, you're on the screen.
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It wasn't a Thought Crime, but it was an election stream where we had the camera angle set sort
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And it looked like he was sitting in the middle of all of us because of the way the angles were.
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We've ironed out the wrinkles much more since then.
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You know what I love, by the way, is that it still has you and Jack's or Jack and you
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and Charlie's face in the logo for Thought Crime.
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By the way, and we're looking at the video screen right here and every single network right
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now, James Comey indicted, James Comey indicted, two counts.
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This is something where I know she's faced a lot of criticism in her position.
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But look, this is possibly one of the biggest steps towards writing the scales of justice
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We've had this two-tiered system or three-tiered system in some cases.
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And I just got to say off the top, hats off to Pam Bondi for doing this.
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So you know what's the first thing I thought of when the news broke?
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You know what I thought of, though, was when James Comey was on with Jen Psaki and was
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asking, well, what happens if Trump gets elected, but then he still gets convicted of a crime?
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And he was like, well, we could put him in a special trailer out in the prison yard.
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And I don't know why that was the memory that flooded back into my head.
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Other than the fact that it was the arrogance that these people exhibited.
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And, you know, now we're learning from this indictment.
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And we should go over what we're learning in the indictment.
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But he was actively leaking all this stuff to the press.
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And he basically was, you know, playing the audience.
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And so I just, the arrogance of going, we're going to lock President Trump up in a courtyard.
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Yeah, but we're going to lock him up in a courtyard.
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And he's going to be able to work out and, you know, shower and all this stuff.
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Even as President of the United States locked up.
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And so there is a little bit of visceral kind of like, this feels right.
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But I want to hear Blake's take on it before we do takes.
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Let's get, and Blake is always the best at this.
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The United States of America versus James B. Comey Jr.
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So count one is false statements within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government.
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In the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the United States government.
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So on or about September 30th, 2020, in the Eastern District of Virginia, the defendant, James Comey, did willfully and knowingly make a materially false, fictitious, and fraudulent statement in a matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch of the U.S. government.
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By falsely stating to a U.S. senator during a judiciary committing hearing that he, James Comey, had not, quote, authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one.
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And then they say, that statement was false because, as James Comey knew then and there, he had, in fact, authorized person three to serve as an anonymous source in news reports regarding an FBI investigation concerning person one.
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It is almost certain that this is Andrew McCabe was leaking things to the press at the instigation, at the approval of Comey, and that he then allegedly lied about this.
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Does that make sense, though, that Andrew McCabe would, or would he have sent a dispatch, sort of, one of his little minions to do so?
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Or is it just that he dispatched it so he's still person?
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Is that he had his own people who, I mean, those people could be working with the prosecutors.
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Now, that said, though, if he was doing that with the authorization of the director of the FBI, would that be a crime?
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If it was classified information, it still would be, by the way.
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And then they have count two, obstruction of a congressional proceeding on or about September 30th, 2020, same day.
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In the Eastern District of Virginia, James Comey did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede the due and proper exercise of the power of inquiry under which an investigation was being had before the Senate Judiciary Committee by making false and misleading statements before that committee in violation of 18 U.S. Code 1505.
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They're saying, by saying a false statement to Congress, he lied to Congress and engaged in obstruction of what Congress was investigating.
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So, was it obstruction of Congress or obstruction of justice?
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It is obstruction of a congressional proceeding.
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So, I believe this was the same one that was used for a lot of the J6ers.
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That was obstruction of an official proceeding.
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Or it might be like a sister statute or something.
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I think obstruction of an official proceeding is a bit different because that covered, like, let's see, federal law, U.S. Code 1512.
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Obstruction of pending proceeding, 18 U.S. Code 1505.
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No, because I remember I talked to Julie Kelly about that so many times and we were talking about the construction of that statute and how it was made and, you know, really what the purpose of it was, et cetera, et cetera.
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Although, it is also interesting they're going for that simply from the fact that I know one of the legal cases in J6 was kind of premised on the fact that I believe...
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Well, they overturned it because the obstruction of official proceeding law was apparently intended to cover, like, almost terrorism-type stuff, like, you're attacking, like, you're burning documents, you're destroying things, you're doing, like, really big aggressive stuff, and that's why it can cover a 20-year penalty.
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And it probably, they argued, wasn't meant to cover lesser things, like, you know, what J6 was, where they just kind of broke in and, like, were hooligans for a while.
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They were getting tons of people on the, you know, oh, you obstructed the proceeding by walking in and making Congress run away for a bit.
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It looks like that James Comey was indicted under the same code the J6ers were.
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Well, that makes it really difficult for all the people.
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And now, how are they going to argue against it when they said they were all for it?
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Well, so, Blake, I want you to chime in on something that you have, I think, beat into my head over the last however many years.
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You do not want to fly off the cuff willy-nilly with half-baked crap against your political opponents.
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Because then you're starting to get into Banana Republic territory.
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I'm saying, as a general rule, Blake is always geared that way.
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He's sort of assuming that there is a cartoonish, clownish character that can emerge when we're trying to seek justice or vengeance.
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That's why we call him Blackpill Blake, by the way.
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You've got to have both pedals to drive the car and not get into a crash.
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Okay, so, looking at the details, Blake, would you put it in the half-baked, gun half-cocked, or would you put this in the, would you put this in the, this looks pretty well thought out and they've taken their time and they've done, they've, it's pretty open and shut.
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Well, so, contextually, one reason it's dropped now is the statute of limitations for what they've charged him with actually expires next Tuesday.
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So, they basically, it was now or never in terms of dropping it.
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So, at the least, it's not, it's not rushed out in that sense.
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And so, hopefully, they've lined a lot of this up.
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It's basically like, you know, it says, so, if they can basically prove that he directed people to leak things and that that is criminal as we understand it.
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So, this means McCabe might have to testify against him.
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Because they, because if he's person three and he was direct, so directed, then McCabe would have to testify.
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And if he doesn't, then, oh, by the way, you're going to the same place Bannon and Navarro went.
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As long as that, if, as long as that, you know, holds true.
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Well, and that, I mean, if he is person three, then yeah.
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I saw a few people say it on X where they immediately said, you and I were talking about this, Jack.
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Someone said, like, give him a perp walk on live TV.
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And all I would say is, if your goal of indicting someone is to get the perp walk of them, you might want to cool it down a bit.
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That's when it goes into that cartoon character.
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Yeah, you don't, you don't, a lot of people, they want the pageantry.
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And they like the TV image of, like, the people who have hurt us, who have done things that have infuriated us, you know, justifiably so.
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And then they like the idea of them facing justice.
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Justice is finding the truth and if he broke the law, finding him guilty and holding him to account for that.
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Just find them guilty and take it to trial and put it out there.
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So, they indicted Donald Trump on a bunch of things.
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And they were extremely happy about it at the time.
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They perp walked him down Fifth Avenue in New York City.
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It guaranteed he was going to get the nomination.
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And it continued to do that because so much of the case was a clown show with Big Fanny,
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And this is not a novel legal theory here, though.
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This is very clear, straight, grounded, false statements and obstruction.
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Like, it's a very simple thing they're alleging.
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It's something that people have been prosecuted before.
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Like, oh, you're basically masterminding leaks.
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Because it's about someone being an anonymous FBI source in news reports.
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So what's interesting is that the content of what was leaked isn't brought up in the indictment here.
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It's more the discussions around how the leak occurred.
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So it's one of those examples where it's like the cover-up is worse than the crime, right?
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So because he lied in the investigation of this leak, that's what they're getting him on.
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We should find the – I'm sure people have already found because it has the date of the hearing.
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So I'm sure we could pull up what he was talking about.
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So you know what's interesting about Comey, though, which is just an interesting piece of the Comey saga, right?
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But secondly, he – you know, he had that moment with Hillary Clinton that probably helped President Trump, right, in 2016, where he said, we're opening the investigation into the email servers.
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Then they welcomed him back on MSNBC, et cetera.
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But it's just like – it's an interesting – he's traveled a circuitous route, right?
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And he was sort of long known to be a Republican.
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Yeah, he was kind of like – well, Blake, you probably remember this.
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Do you remember – Blake, who came up with the phrase Ferguson effect?
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I don't know if he is, like, is the initial person to come up with it, but he certainly used it and popularized it.
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And James Comey used to talk about the Ferguson effect.
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It feels weird how Comey is this, like, Forrest Gump guy who just keeps popping up everywhere.
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He was, like, a lower attorney and then eventually got plucked out of that.
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And he was the successor to Mueller in – and then he, you know, came up through those ranks.
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But he was – yeah, he was someone who was known, quote, unquote, as a Republican prior to all of this.
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But he's one of those, like, MSNBC Republicans now.
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He's a Republican who took all of the changes of the 2010s very hard.
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And he went from being this, like, 6'5", or how tall is he?
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Literally, him and Glenn Youngkin were the only guys in the game taller than Charlie.
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He went from, like, tall Republican prosecutor to –
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I mean, you just kind of look at him with, like, his, like, this is what a feminist looks like shirts or whatever it was he had.
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He was at one of those – he was at one of those women's marches, wasn't he?
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And he played, like, oh, I didn't know what that meant.
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Yeah, and this is after, you know, the assassination attempts on President Trump, right?
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And that even – I mean, that plays into the run-up here with Charlie's assassination, which is, like, it's guys like James Comey that were publicly calling for the elimination of public officials.
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As we talk about, we need to turn that anger into action.
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But that animosity that these people had are what has stoked the flames that have turned into hurting people.
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And, you know, that's aside from what he's being accused of, right?
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Former FBI Director James Comey is expected to surrender tomorrow morning.
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And, well, Blake, one of the things that I should also mention in the sense that based on what we know now, the fact that it's in the Eastern District of Virginia is likely an attempt to get it out of the D.C. district, where, of course, we know the D.C. jury pool is – and, you know, it is what it is, right?
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We should probably pull it up for the 2024 election.
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Every single J6er, I think there was 100 percent conviction rate.
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And on the flip side, there was 100 percent conviction rate for Bannon.
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There would have been for Trump, for Roger Stone, for General Flynn's situation.
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He would have been found guilty, et cetera, et cetera.
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You know, it just occurs to me, this could – this feels like it could be a long-running issue in U.S. justice or what have you.
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Like, obviously, most big criminal cases are filed in big urban areas, you know, Southern District of New York.
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I know where you're going with this, and you're exactly right.
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And it's going to be – it seems like a serious problem if – when our political polarization has grown to such a degree that you have a 90-10 jury pool of potential people almost always waited in favor of another party.
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Right, so how are you going to get a jury of your peers when you're already stacked to have a jury that's completely against you because this is a political prosecution?
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Yeah, whereas, by the way, the Eastern District of Virginia, it's known as the Rocket Docket, it's known for being a quick, you know, quick procedures there, and, by the way, has been historically used for national security crimes.
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So this is something that they're – you know, there's so much of the national security industry is there.
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Right, well, but we – you know, the judges is where it really matters.
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I mean, juries obviously matter, but so much of this happens at the judicial level, right?
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Well, and you're also looking at it from – to your point – at the appeals circuits we're coming to play here.
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No, so, I mean, listen, my instinct here is that the – so – and maybe, Blake, you would disagree with this – but my instinct here is that you've got
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Dan Bongino, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi under an excruciating amount of pressure to come up with the goods, right?
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The base wants – they want consequences and accountability for what we lived through during the Biden years, and goodness, was there a lot of it.
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And it seems like they waited longer than would be politically advantageous for them, right, because their jobs are on the line, right?
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I mean, they're wondering, are we going to get fired by President Trump any day soon?
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Obviously, the statue's running out, but they – you've got to believe that when Dan Bongino would hint, like, trust me, things are coming,
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or Mike Davis would go on and be like, guys, I'm in the loop.
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This is definitely one of the things that they've been working on, and I've got to believe that whether it sticks or not,
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they're putting their best foot forward with the, like, best, easiest case that they can probably do, right,
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to get a big-name, you know, person that has wronged, you know, at least conservatives.
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So I would think that – I would think I – all that to say, I think I put a relatively high amount of confidence
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in the fact that they probably have a pretty good case here.
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I actually was – one of the things I first went viral for back in 2017 was dinging Comey on false statements
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He would say things in one testimony, and then he'd say things in the next testimony.
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One time he said, I never felt coercion or pressure to end an investigation.
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And the very next time he went before Congress, he said, I felt pressured to end the Russia investigation.
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Well, by the way, that is a hallmark of a liar, which this is essentially what they're accusing him of doing,
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But a hallmark of a liar is that it's very, very difficult to keep the lie straight,
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So I'm looking at – we already have kind of – this is –
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Well, could I just respond to what – it's – they didn't just go after Trump.
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No, I mean, you've been fighting it, but you've had to spend –
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I'm just going to – like, I know you don't want to talk about it.
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Like, when the news came, and you were kind of like –
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I was at the Detroit airport, which is a horrible place.
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But you're already pucker factor six when you're there.
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Charlie instantly chimed in through a chat, and he said,
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The funny part, I was in Michigan during all this because of the Michigan thing.
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I mean, without a doubt, and this is all throughout all the years,
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Charlie always had my back and had always been, you know,
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There's no worse feeling than when the entire government's coming after you.
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And Charlie was the first to, like, we've got you 100%.
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Like, literally, like, the day after the appeal that the –
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because they didn't bring sufficient evidence to prosecute all of us
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It got basically remanded, and the state was appealing,
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So, they have to start all over, and we'll see what they do.
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So, we know in Michigan just recently they knocked this whole thing off.
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And, by the way, like, okay, you're an official at Turning Point,
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But so many of these people are just, like, county committee members
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and, you know, just regular folks, senior citizens.
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You were the biggest target that they could get.
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Yeah, I think it was, like, there was a state chairman, you know.
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In the case that this – you know, some of Trump's legal proceedings
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prove fruitful, then we want to make sure because of the laws
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There's a legal theory that we're going back to the 1960 election with Hawaii.
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The Democrats actually came up with this whole idea of, you know,
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of having – making sure – and, again, it makes sense when you have
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close elections, what you don't want to have happen in any of these states,
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and I can't get into too many of the details, but what you don't want to have
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happen is it be, like, within a few thousand votes, and then they realize
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they did something wrong or they miscounted or whatever.
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And remember, this is during COVID when all these new rules got put in place,
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And so a lot of people had come to us and said, hey, we're not totally sure
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that everything is, like, on the up and up here.
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In case of emergency, you guys better have your paperwork ready.
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No, Matt, the way I frame it is imagine if the papers aren't ready,
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how mad the president will be, how mad the people will be, the voters will be,
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It was, like, basically 43,000 votes across – or 42,000 votes across three states.
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Oh, so I just wanted to flag another breaking news item that has happened
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in relation to this is we kind of – the way they're going to hype this up,
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we have a deputy U.S. attorney – or assistant U.S. attorney
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He has filed a letter to uphold my oath to the Constitution and country.
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I hereby resign as an assistant United States attorney for the Eastern District
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of Virginia in the Department of Justice, effective immediately and sincerely.
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Now, what is funny is apparently Troy Edwards, Jr. is Comey's son-in-law.
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Well, his daughter, who is a prosecutor for SDNY, just got fired.
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I can hear Jen Psaki now saying this is the front to the rule of law.
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They're just like, we live in a dictatorship and the tyranny of – yeah, well, okay.
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Could you imagine being indicted just for your – and it's, like, literally –
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This is why I'm talking about Tyler, and, like, Tyler hates talking about it, but whatever.
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But it's that story that you have still this platform to be able to say and obviously have, you know, and having the backing of an organization to be able to fight that.
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Average people who went up against – 1600 people were mass indicted over J6.
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People were, you know, in some cases lost their jobs over COVID.
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Some people lost even more than that over COVID.
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Donald Trump and anyone associated with him, people were losing their law licenses.
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And every single time it was some novel legal theory or some star chamber or some nonsense thing that nobody could even understand what the indictment was.
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Even though this, as far as I know, is the first time that an FBI director has been indicted, it's probably not the first time that an FBI director or CIA director has lied to Congress.
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And we certainly know that John Brennan or people like J. Edgar Hoover, the original director of the FBI, had a complete habit of this.
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You know, they used to say that J. Edgar Hoover would turn off the congressional wiretaps right before he went to testify so that when he testified, he wouldn't be lying when he said, oh, no, I would never wiretap members of Congress.
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And his name is on the building, which should be completely raised, by the way.
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Yeah, but it's the organization that was working to disbar lawyers who defended Donald Trump.
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You couldn't even, Trump was having trouble getting lawyers because there was organizations that were well funded that were working to disbar his lawyers.
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If you're a lawyer and you're like, I don't need the billable hours.
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I don't need the, I don't need the controversy that comes with that.
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They're not going to want to say, oh, I don't want to do this.
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I don't want to be associated because it's a fear tactic.
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And this is actually in that, that clip of Charlie that Mikey posted recently about why Republicans are so scared to go on offense.
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He said, you know, he says, look at what they did to Bannon.
00:30:36.640
And he's talking about how it's, it creates a chilling effect for Republicans that nobody wants to ever, I'm going to have to use the phrase, stick their neck out.
00:30:44.900
And because they don't want to be the next one.
00:30:48.720
They don't want to be the next, I think he says James O'Keefe.
00:30:50.520
And they don't want to be the next Donald Trump because they're terrified of standing out because when you stand out, you get cut down.
00:30:58.260
And he explained the effect it had across all levels.
00:31:04.980
Yeah, he was relating it to like taking offense in Nebraska for winner takeoff.
00:31:10.440
This actually relates really similarly to Jimmy Kimmel.
00:31:14.540
So, this week, we saw the left lose their mind when Jimmy Kimmel got basically questioned, very basically questioned for what he was saying and doing on his platform.
00:31:31.140
They went after individual conservatives and de-platformed them, de-banked them, did all these things.
00:31:38.360
It was the small guys in most cases that they were going, the individual.
00:31:43.640
In this same issue, they were going after the small people and indicting the small people and knocking the small people, whacking those moles all across the country and taking out the legs out from underneath the conservative movement.
00:31:57.940
And it wasn't the, in most cases, it wasn't all just the big guys.
00:32:01.580
It was the small guys they were getting rid of.
00:32:03.800
And now they're all losing their mind over James Comey.
00:32:07.680
The Comey-Kimmel situation this week is so similar in the fact that the left had gone after the grassroots of this country, the average citizen, trying to, just like Jack is saying, trying to dissuade them from participating from the civic and civic engagement, basic civic engagement.
00:32:24.300
And then at the same time, they're wanting to protect, you know, the biggest arbiters in these problems that are really, you know, trashing and hurting the country.
00:32:42.120
By the way, there's a bunch of video, I guess, James.
00:32:45.000
I just wanted to say, thank you, Crochet Queen.
00:32:50.300
Charlie has brought my husband and I back to reading the Bible.
00:32:58.440
And Charlie always loved every time he heard someone said they were going to church, reading the Bible, taking their faith more seriously because of what they'd seen or heard from him.
00:33:16.340
And we will shut up so that your voice can be on the air through our Rumble rants.
00:33:21.860
I just wanted to give a shout out to Greg Price because he's pulled the what we believe to be the moment of and we have the video.
00:33:30.000
We'll get the video in a second of what Comey lied about.
00:33:34.940
So his his tweet reads, James Comey told Congress in September 2020 that the Steele dossier was not used in the 2016, the ICA, this intelligence community assessment on the Russia hoax.
00:33:49.520
It was reported on, at least in the unclassified format, that they're the intelligence community.
00:33:55.400
Remember, 16 agencies, 17 agencies over and over and over.
00:34:01.340
And Comey told them that it did not involve the Steele dossier.
00:34:08.740
Go back to July of 2025 when she released those unclassified emails and documents from how this was created.
00:34:16.920
She found that the Steele dossier was directly cited and specifically it was member of those Obama officials telling them that it wasn't real.
00:34:26.020
And if I remember correctly, there were pretty high level members of the FBI.
00:34:32.380
So one of those 17 agencies that's under the ODNI is the FBI.
00:34:40.500
So there's no question that James Comey certainly would have not only been part of the initial process, but, you know, you'd want to review something like that before you go to Congress.
00:34:56.260
Brennan, I remember being told that the group's view was it was significant enough and consistent enough with other intelligence that it ought to be included, but it wasn't sufficiently corroborated to be in the body of the intelligence community assessment.
00:35:18.960
I just want to say you guys are doing a great job.
00:35:34.040
We have Comey is giving a response to this as well.
00:35:44.900
My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump, but we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.
00:35:54.840
We will not live on our knees and you shouldn't either.
00:35:59.380
Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant.
00:36:15.600
And you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it, which it does.
00:36:22.520
My heart is broken for the Department of Justice.
00:36:26.140
But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system.
00:36:34.240
Every time they talk, it's like, it's very much I am in a TV show, like possibly one on Apple TV.
00:36:43.240
He reminds me so much of like Jeff Flake and Mitt Romney.
00:36:52.020
And like these guys that like, in the same way when they were, went after Trump so hard and then like they had to come back.
00:36:59.260
And like the guys down in Georgia, what's his name that left the party?
00:37:24.320
It's like this like really sheepish guilty look when they're like doing this stuff.
00:37:32.020
What he's being accused of lying about is, as Roger Stone puts it, the greatest dirty
00:37:43.580
It's that they basically realized the Steele dossier was garbage.
00:37:55.140
Donald Trump's about to take over as president.
00:37:57.280
And they get to work sabotaging the elected representative of the people to lead the country.
00:38:05.080
And who was it that briefed the Steele dossier to Donald Trump?
00:38:10.140
So this isn't like, this isn't an example of some low level functionary or, you know,
00:38:15.580
someone who's got no culpability, wrong place at the wrong time.
00:38:18.700
No, you were the individual, James Comey, who through your own actions, by the way,
00:38:23.960
we never really found who it was that leaked that to Jake Tapper, by the way, because it
00:38:28.340
was Jake Tapper on CNN, who's very, very upset that CNN had me on this week.
00:38:33.100
He's like screaming about it behind the scenes over there.
00:38:39.340
And that's what gave the Steele dossier, quote unquote, legs, right?
00:38:47.380
Because before it was like, oh, it's the dirty dossier.
00:38:55.160
The Moscow stuff didn't make any sense, really.
00:39:00.400
Well, keep in mind, suddenly, suddenly, James Comey briefs it to the president.
00:39:05.040
And the very next day, just about Jake Tapper goes up on TV, Jake Tapper and says, this was
00:39:15.360
And then BuzzFeed publishes it in full, I think, like a day after that.
00:39:26.880
The reason why I bring up those names, though, Andrew, is because never forget Senator McCain's
00:39:35.200
He was the one that was the one that handed it off.
00:39:45.240
And somebody randomly came up to him and gave it to him.
00:39:53.460
And that's why I bring up those names, because all of those names revolved around that man,
00:40:04.280
That was like the last final, you know, everyone remembers the thumbs down on the getting rid
00:40:27.820
So in 2020, May 7th, 2020, he says, retweet if James Comey should be prosecuted and charged
00:40:33.980
for what he did to Michael Flynn, General Michael Flynn.
00:40:38.540
So remember, Michael Flynn was entrapped, basically, lured into a meeting without a lawyer under
00:40:45.860
the, you know, the assumption that this was a cooperative, hey, we're all in the government
00:40:51.240
And then we also have a clip that's coming of former director Comey sort of bragging about
00:41:03.580
And so, I mean, you start putting all these little pieces together, and it's really hard
00:41:11.160
He's going to put his little memos out, his little selfie videos out, and act like he's
00:41:17.940
But remember, every time they say that they're defending democracy, these are the same people
00:41:22.720
that try to throw a former president of the United States into federal prison for 700
00:41:29.140
But of course, if you're on the left, if you're an MSNBC watcher, right?
00:41:41.780
He probably watched like a Swift selfie instructional video.
00:41:44.740
Because doesn't he have like teenage daughters?
00:41:46.200
Is he on one of his teenage daughters' Taylor Swift ring lights on there?
00:42:12.720
This is James Comey bragging about what he did to General Michael Flynn.
00:42:19.500
You look at this White House now, and it's hard to imagine two FBI agents ending up in
00:42:32.160
Something I probably wouldn't have done or maybe gotten away with in a more organized
00:42:37.340
investigation, a more organized administration, in the George W. Bush administration, for example,
00:42:44.760
Two men that all of us have perhaps increased appreciation for over the last two years.
00:42:54.640
And in both of those administrations, there was process.
00:42:57.300
And so if the FBI wanted to send agents into the White House itself to interview a senior
00:43:04.400
official, you would work through the White House counsel, and there'd be discussions and approvals
00:43:13.940
Yeah, it's just, it really gets a, whether he goes to jail or not, like, we really need
00:43:21.240
to make sure that James Comey is just remembered for what an, like, odious and very hubristic,
00:43:34.120
This is exactly, this is why this is so satisfying, and I'm trying not to give into this, like,
00:43:39.180
this visceral urge just to dunk on him and be, like, extraordinarily joyous, but you're
00:43:51.060
And, like, not just smug, it's that he really sees himself as, like, the main character of
00:43:59.920
So it's, like, you think of all these other episodes, like, in the 2016 election, remember,
00:44:03.360
he was a liberal villain first, and it's because he's so self-importantly injecting himself
00:44:09.260
I'm going to go on TV, and I'm going to announce whether we're indicting Hillary, and no one
00:44:14.100
is going to know, and not even Obama is going to know, and I'm going to then reopen, dramatically
00:44:20.480
reopen the investigation the week before, but, you know, it's not going to matter.
00:44:23.720
And then I think he's even said, I cannot find where this was, but I'm pretty sure he
00:44:27.880
basically said, I, you know, began to suspect Trump might be a Russian agent when I saw
00:44:32.640
him on the podium saying, like, you know, that thing where he was like, oh, Putin should
00:44:38.420
And every dumb person, including the head of the FBI, it turns out, is like, is he
00:44:46.820
Didn't he once claim that he never saw Trump laugh?
00:44:50.980
We have a, we have a rumble rant, we have a rumble rant, cutting it, breaking news, rumble
00:44:54.440
rant, DGood2020 sends in, Charlie will forever live in our hearts.
00:45:11.140
I will tell you, you know, in the midst of all this tragedy, and I think everybody's
00:45:14.080
kind of wondering what kind of country we have, and they're worried about their kids'
00:45:18.220
future, those are valid concerns, valid worries, but I think you guys would all agree, like,
00:45:22.860
in the midst of that, I've never seen so much good, either.
00:45:26.280
I've never seen so much goodness, so much kindness from perfect strangers.
00:45:31.380
I went out to the vigil one night when it first happened, and some lady recognized me, and
00:45:36.160
she was very kind, and as I'm walking away, she's, like, her kids all came up, and they
00:45:43.520
And the kid looks at me, and he's like, can I give you a hug?
00:45:52.740
And he hugged me, and he goes, I know it's been a hard day for you.
00:45:57.820
And then another kid came up, and then another kid, and another kid, and I had, like, five
00:46:03.020
Were you in, like, a Saturday night morning special or something?
00:46:10.480
It was just amazing, these little moments like that.
00:46:13.080
Yeah, but anyways, I mean, we're talking about Comey, but I just want to say, all the love
00:46:20.620
I wore, I'm thinking of buying multiple of those Freedom shirts, just so I can wear them,
00:46:26.520
like, multiple days in a row without it being too gross, because it is great.
00:46:29.760
Like, just the other day, I was at a, I went over to a-
00:46:34.880
You know, I just went out to a friend's place out in Mesa, just wearing it, because I'd worn
00:46:40.580
it at work that day, and just two women were talking outside, middle-aged women, and they
00:46:45.000
saw it, and they were just like, you know, I love your shirt.
00:46:48.680
He was my boss, actually, and we had a conversation about it, and it was very moving.
00:46:53.700
They were talking about, you know, both of them said, I hadn't seen a lot of Charlie's
00:46:57.540
stuff before, but now, like, I'm watching his videos constantly, you know, it's so
00:47:03.800
And it's kind of so, and you know, they were very horrified at what the reaction had been,
00:47:09.000
so it wasn't just, they'd realize what Charlie is, you know, they'd experience that whole
00:47:12.500
range of seeing how good he was, and how hateful so many of the people are, who are celebrating
00:47:17.980
it, and all of that, and these are just ordinary women in Mesa, had a good conversation with
00:47:22.800
them for a few minutes, and I'd love to have more conversations like that, and I think a lot
00:47:33.280
And by the way, I'll shout out again, in case anyone didn't hear it, a special guest tomorrow
00:47:40.000
Yeah, we have the one and only Mrs. Erica Kirk coming on the show tomorrow, so that's pretty
00:47:47.600
I mean, you know, Erica is in a crazy headspace, you can only imagine.
00:47:53.440
No, most people can't, I can't, and there's no way to put yourself in her shoes, but for
00:47:58.860
her to make the time, because she knows how special the Charlie Kirk Show is and was to
00:48:04.440
Charlie, and so she's going out of her way to come be with us.
00:48:08.920
I just, I'm so honored by it, and it was her idea, she wanted to do it, and I can't even
00:48:13.780
begin to explain to you, as somebody who's been in media and press and all this stuff
00:48:18.900
for a long time now, the amount of incoming that I have received, like begging for an
00:48:25.940
interview with Erica Kirk, and she's saying no to all of it.
00:48:30.240
I mean, magazine covers and exclusives and sit-downs with the top talent at all the network,
00:48:36.220
and no, she's going to come on our show and hang out with us.
00:48:48.060
They're losing their minds over at MSNBC, and we all know that Charlie loved to watch that,
00:48:58.520
Today, there were reports that she was also doubtful about this case.
00:49:02.380
While she doesn't mention it by name, I'll read exactly what you see here.
00:49:05.780
Today's indictment reflects DOJ's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable
00:49:16.000
Again, the effort on and the attention on misleading that rising, according to the DOJ indictment,
00:49:24.580
to what they're going to argue is a criminal level, a false statements charge, which Joyce
00:49:28.420
Vance, you were just explaining, requires meeting a certain bar of materiality.
00:49:33.180
We don't have the indictment yet, but the reporting prior was that this was referenced to
00:49:37.860
Comey answering a question about the general news and leaks policy at DOJ, and basically
00:49:44.680
whether he was fully briefed on Clinton-related matters.
00:49:47.740
With our final 30 seconds, your final thoughts.
00:49:51.000
Well, look, I think this is a good moment for us to all, before we jump to conclusions,
00:50:02.100
There are still barriers in the criminal justice system that prevent miscarriage of justice.
00:50:07.180
A grand jury has decided that they will issue an indictment here, apparently, but there
00:50:12.580
are other issues going forward, including a judge and a jury.
00:50:16.040
Let's let the system work like it's intended to.
00:50:20.300
We're going to be following this, but it is an extraordinary news event to have the
00:50:23.300
former FBI director indicted, especially under these terms.
00:50:25.700
Look at the sun on your shoulders, the body language.
00:50:30.260
It looked like, I mean, I'm not going to say that, but like Ari Melber, what's the matter,
00:50:42.460
Just, you know, we got to let the legal system play out, but there are, you know.
00:50:48.600
You hear that in the, Blake, I know you picked up on that, where he's like, he's like, well,
00:50:51.840
the briefing, he might not have been briefed on the Clinton thing, where he personally
00:50:55.540
made the call, might not be briefed on Clinton when he personally made the decision of whether
00:51:00.560
to prosecute or not, like, he's the director of the FBI.
00:51:04.940
And by the way, when you, like, I don't think any of us in here have done this, but, you
00:51:10.100
know, for anyone who's done, like, any deposition, none of us have been briefed before.
00:51:15.400
Charlie used to talk about when he went to testify to the J6 committee.
00:51:20.640
So, Tyler, let me ask, did, I actually, I forgot that you did.
00:51:26.440
I love, I love Charlie, was Charlie, wasn't it like, were you born on October 14th?
00:51:33.440
But Tyler, did you just go up there and, did your lawyers just let you go in there and
00:51:46.620
But at the same time, like, you have to do your due diligence.
00:51:49.700
And I'm about to go in, I'm about to go in again to have to fight the AG here.
00:51:54.060
And, you know, your lawyers are with you throughout the entire thing, both in any interview, if
00:51:58.720
you get subpoenaed, or if you have to go in and, you know, testify to a grand jury or then
00:52:03.640
ultimately testify to a jury or whatever it is.
00:52:06.560
I mean, there's a tremendous amount of prep that goes into all these things.
00:52:09.700
And that's why any good lawyer, before they ask you, before you answer a yes or no question
00:52:13.740
like that, they'll say, hey, you know, can you clarify that question?
00:52:17.680
Can you, you know, are you sure this is what you're asking about?
00:52:19.980
Because you know that if it's in court, that's perjury.
00:52:24.040
And if you're in Congress, that's lying to Congress.
00:52:30.280
And of course, though, he wasn't briefed properly.
00:52:41.400
And by the way, these guys have limitless resources for this.
00:52:46.300
This isn't like a guy getting, again, like in our situation.
00:52:54.500
But he's surrounded by layers of attorneys, the best in the world.
00:53:01.440
I mean, you can make the argument that the best
00:53:04.560
and deepest and most aggressive attorneys are all within the D.C. metro area.
00:53:14.120
And you can bet that the best possible guys were provided to him
00:53:30.900
And the other thing that Ari Melber goes, he says,
00:53:32.480
he was answering a general statement about the leak policy.
00:53:37.020
It wasn't a general statement about the leak policy.
00:53:39.060
It was specific leaks of a specific instance on a specific article.
00:53:45.240
And then Ari Melber is already sitting up there.
00:53:52.540
The same thing that you saw leftists do in the wake of the,
00:53:56.440
you know, when I reported that it was the anti-ice on the bullets.
00:54:08.120
First, real quick, just because, just real quick.
00:54:16.580
Yeah, he got, I mean, all they were doing was having,
00:54:34.020
And a crowd sort of gathers and then chases them off.
00:54:38.380
And they're getting hurled insults for their hat.
00:54:43.040
And they had to be escorted off with police to keep them safe.
00:55:13.300
One of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to is James Comey,
00:55:19.560
Today he was indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts for various illegal and unlawful acts.
00:55:25.500
He has been so bad for our country for so long.
00:55:28.520
And is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation.
00:55:38.580
I know you love, I know you love when, when the politicians chime in on the legal proceedings.
00:55:43.600
You know, it's, it, I would just caution people that the stuff you do now,
00:55:48.900
perp walks, statements, it can be very satisfying in the moment.
00:55:52.780
But, among other things, I don't think it increases your chances of getting an actual conviction.
00:55:56.980
This is, and I'm just going to say this as well, that this is a very direct issue that has been brought up in the Luigi Maggioni case right now,
00:56:07.160
where there is a motion from the defense team to knock the death penalty off because of Twitter activity by members of Department of Justice officials.
00:56:18.920
Retweets and different things like this, so, hey.
00:56:22.680
Well, I mean, I have some sympathy in that instance simply because Luigi Maggioni premeditated an assassination against a CEO, the United Healthcare CEO.
00:56:34.300
To, to bring justice to a cold-blooded assassin is, you know, I feel like morally there's a lot of leg to stand on.
00:56:45.160
No, I know, but I'm saying that, like, you have to get that past the judge.
00:56:48.620
And a judge can just rule, oh, this violates whatever vague standard, and boom, no more death penalty.
00:56:56.540
And, you know, someone says, you know, someone said in the discussion, they said, you know, just regarding this, nothing better than a Trump truth.
00:57:06.100
Convicting James Comey for all the horrible things he did.
00:57:10.040
Maximize the odds of that, and if anything else you're doing hurts the odds of that, let's do it.
00:57:15.240
I mean, the president's going to be the president.
00:57:19.160
Can we, let's go play, let's hate watch some more MSNBC losing their ish 255.
00:57:26.800
Selected prosecution piece is augmented or buffeted by the fact that the president was tweeting out, do it.
00:57:36.640
And maybe if Lindsay Helligan was actually a prosecutor and actually knew some law, she would have said, Mr. President, we're going to have a problem here.
00:57:45.300
Ken Delaney and who had some of the original reporting on the fact that we were expecting this indictment and on this timeline.
00:57:53.500
We are now hearing from the attorney general and from the director of the FBI.
00:58:02.400
Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people.
00:58:12.220
I want you to take that, Ken, side by side with what FBI Director Kash Patel posted on X.
00:58:19.620
Today, your FBI took another step in its promise of full accountability.
00:58:24.540
For far too long, previous corrupt leadership and their enablers weaponized federal law enforcement, damaging once proud institutions and severely eroding public trust.
00:58:36.080
Every day, we continue the fight to earn that trust back.
00:58:39.320
And under my leadership, this FBI will confront the problem head on.
00:58:43.540
Nowhere was this politicization of law enforcement more blatant than during the Russiagate hoax, a disgraceful chapter in history we continue to investigate and expose.
00:58:51.900
Everyone, especially those in positions of power, will be held to account no matter their perch.
00:58:57.720
You'll forgive me, Ken, because getting through that propaganda was a little bit difficult.
00:59:01.540
But given that there was reporting earlier that Pam...
00:59:09.720
It's just, you know, at least I'll give Abby Phillips over at CNN some props here because at least she'll have, like, Scott Jennings on or someone who disagrees.
00:59:20.680
But what is the point of having a panel on MSNBC where everyone has the exact same opinion?
00:59:26.880
This is exactly why we have our DEI hire Blake here.
00:59:35.460
Like, not just for the political polarization part of it, but it's just better TV, don't you think?
00:59:42.840
I love it when Blake kind of gives me something to think about.
00:59:54.680
So the obstruction would be the lying about the leaking?
01:00:01.460
So false statement and then the obstruction because he told a false statement.
01:00:04.560
So there's another clip going around that, you know, James Comey told Congress on September 30th, 2020, could be one of the lies that was told.
01:00:15.660
Comey said he had never authorized anyone within the FBI to be a, quote, anonymous source about the Trump-Russia investigation.
01:00:31.000
Chairman Grassley asked you, point-blank, quote,
01:00:35.100
Have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation?
01:00:48.340
Have you ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton administration?
01:00:58.940
Now, as you know, Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has publicly and repeatedly stated that he leaked information to the Wall Street Journal.
01:01:13.420
I stand by what the testimony you summarized that I gave.
01:01:16.440
I'm not going to characterize Andy's testimony, but mine is the same today.
01:01:19.700
So he stood by the fact that he never did, never authorized anyone within the FBI to be an anonymous source.
01:01:34.460
So that wasn't the previous testimony that he gave to Chuck Grassley.
01:01:56.080
I saw him on the Ingram Angle when he first started.
01:01:58.720
He's grown so fast and became something bigger than all of us.
01:02:07.820
So many people never met him or only shook hands with him, but they really felt close to him.
01:02:38.040
And by the way, he was someone who was treated horrifically by the left.
01:02:43.780
He was called an Oreo, like black on the outside, white on the inside is what they said.
01:02:56.280
When he was walking, some protesters were pelting him with Oreos.
01:03:05.080
I don't know if you saw it, Blake, where he was saying there are not two lefts.
01:03:19.320
When you have Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama saying what they say all the time.
01:03:27.920
But, you know, I will just accept at this point a lefty that doesn't believe that violence is justified.
01:03:43.160
Apparently Rav bleeped me out every time I said, Jank Weiger.
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And I was like, I immediately was like, I'm so sorry.
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How many different ways would it be possible to pronounce that man's name?
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I wonder if it could be like, could you hit like a hundred?
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Um, so what, uh, what, I mean, I think Janky, I think we've gotten through the, I, I do
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kind of want to just, uh, to cover the, the Cubs thing just because I find it so funny.
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I know you want to, but, but let me, let me just add this, this final piece here while
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It's, you have to restore the scales of justice to balance.
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And you must do it using the iron law of exact reciprocity.
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It has to be done to the people who wielded government power for ill gotten ends.
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And gosh, I was just looking, I was running like a Twitter search on Charlie's tweets and
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he's got the lists over and over, over and over.
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Charlie said, why were so many of our people indicted for this when James Comey did the
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And I, I'm sure Charlie knew exactly the dates and times that he did it.
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And of course, of course, Charlie can't play a part in this because of what was done to
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And so when the pressure is being applied in one direction, the pressure of state power,
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like we saw for four years straight, including by the way, to the turning point organization
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itself, both, well, just, I'll just say through, through investigation upon investigation that
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And I know there's more that's going to be coming out on the FBI investigation.
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And if you don't, if you don't respond, if you don't do anything to balance it out, they're
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We've been looking for a balancing of the scales and you have to have mutually assured
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destruction in a, in a, in a democracy for both sides to treat the other with respect.
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Like if you step out of line, we are not so cowardly as to not hold you accountable.
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Well, the, despite what MSNBC is going to say, that this is the end of democracy, which they
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notably were not saying when our border was open and political opponents of the left were
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Rafinez gave five and says in honor of Comey, Taylor Swift will rename her next tour the
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He's, you know, so that means he's a player like in the age range of, you know, the, the
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core demographic that Charlie went for and he'd met Charlie.
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I think they actually even lived in the same facility, uh, place for a while, but I don't
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I don't know if it's the case, but so he had met Charlie.
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He saw him at a game once and then he wanted, so he attended the memorial.
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He was invited, uh, by Erica directly is what reporting says.
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Now, for those of you who don't know baseball, baseball plays 160 games a year.
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They in fact have already clinched a playoff spot.
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A lot of people lost their absolute minds about this.
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We need to, we need to, there's a video on this.
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Can we have RFK like investigate whether Redditors are like fully the same species as human
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Um, you know, my connection with Charlie was through our faith.
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That's the reason why, you know, I'm able to do what I do every day.
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Um, and that's something I'm extremely thankful for.
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Um, you know, I know without my faith and without the many blessings I've been given
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in my life that I wouldn't be here, able to talk to you guys, able to help this team
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Um, so that's something I feel really, really blessed about.
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Um, so, you know, whatever backlash comes is, is okay.
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You know, um, I feel, feel strong about my faith in that, that what was meant to be
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Um, my bad, I call, uh, I, I thought I was getting a different one there.
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Uh, really is, it shows his, so the backlash, which I also want to show here is, uh, this
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started with, uh, an announcer on, I think he was the Mets announcer, but was calling the
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game and he commented on it as, uh, Matt was batting the following day.
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Shaw had Cubs world in a tizzy this weekend when he was not here for the Cubs game with
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And in which his lack of presence was felt, it was later revealed that he had been given
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And I don't want to talk about any of the politics of it, but the, the thought of leaving
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your team in the middle of a race for any reason other than a family emergency really strikes
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He was super, super supportive of, uh, us and, uh, obviously someone who was really
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Um, but yeah, I mean, his, uh, his wife, Erica had texted me asking me if I would, if I would
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And, um, you know, I felt as though it was something that was really important for me to do.
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So I took, I literally just put this picture into the chat from my own phone.
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And this is us on the field at Wrigley and Matt Shaw's right there.
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Matt lives in, uh, Arizona and they run into each other in Phoenix.
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And so we're at the game and after they won, I would think they won four, three that, that
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day, we went down to the field and two of the Cubs players, one of which was Matt came
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and they took a picture and they chatted and it was, it was wonderful.
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And actually when we posted that picture, it got some controversy as well, but you know,
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And, and so, I mean, I just feel connected personally to this story.
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And one other thing that just, you know, Matt Shaw did not mention that in that clip, but Charlie
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And it's so like, he grew up worshiping the Cubs and that's why I think on many levels,
01:11:33.640
he was just so excited to have a relationship with some of the Cubs players.
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And that was literally one of his favorite days that he's had in a long time.
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Because again, also people forget this, like Charlie had become such a, a big personality
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Like it really, like in, in, in many ways, right?
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Like, like how we were telling the story about you guys being out and about and, and South
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Korea and like how, but him being out there, again, his love for the Cubs and being at games,
01:12:04.920
especially with Erica and family and when he took a lot of those videos and he, and he
01:12:10.000
Like he went to spring training and a few games this year.
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And like, it's just, I just, I just know he would talk about, like, he was so excited
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That announcer, that announcer is a total jerk.
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Like, oh, this just strikes me as really weird.
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Oh, he missed the, he missed the hecking sporting game because a person who was a friend of his
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Not just a friend of his, but then like a worldwide icon.
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And he got his, the widow invited him personally.
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The widow has asked me to attend and they're freaking out.
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Why is that guy not, no, that, candidly, like, that guy should get suspended from his
01:13:02.820
Like, what a cold hearted, that's, that's, jerk.
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This is the murder of someone that a lot of people knew that a lot of people were, were,
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And it's, he was a human being that people actually knew in real life.
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That's a shocking, it took me a second to like realize, but I started sitting here thinking
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And I'm like, the heck actually, like, who the hell is this guy?
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Like, who hurt you when you were a little kid that you don't understand?
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Like, yeah, we should actually blow this up a little bit because it's, it's shockingly
01:13:40.520
When you mentioned the Cubs, I didn't realize that's what the audio was.
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But he said Cubs story and I was like, I didn't hear anything about a Cubs story.
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And then like, that's what it is in the headline and I hadn't heard it.
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Imagine had somebody done that with MLK or JFK, right?
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Like MLK and when MLK was assassinated or George, they actually delayed all MLB games
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So when MLK was assassinated, they delayed all MLB games.
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And it was originally, so Roberto Clemente, which is understandable.
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And Roberto Clemente actually had organized some Pittsburgh players to take a day off
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I'm trying to be, I'm trying to, I'm trying to like center myself.
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So I was, I posted on, on X earlier, some like excerpts from the Reddit thread about
01:14:47.940
So you just have to know a lot of Redditors are like very creepy.
01:14:51.880
So I people, they were celebrating Charlie's death when it happened.
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And so here it's like, Mr. Ferguson, cultists gonna cult.
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This has to rank up there with the weirdest missed games, right?
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Does anyone have a list of interesting absences?
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He wanted to go to the memorial of his friend who was murdered all for some effing podcaster,
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We're up against the fried mental model that's even being promoted by hopefully a soon to be
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Just a complete douchebag who wants to sit there and say, oh, that's weird.
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Strikes me as weird that you'd want to bury your friend.
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Like, what does he think about his Hispanic teammates?
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They've clinched a playoff spot, and they're eight games ahead in the wild card standings.
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I want to be clear, the comments Blake is reading were not all said by Gary.
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This is people reacting to it on a website of supporting it.
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Yeah, and just agreeing, like, oh, it's so weird or bad.
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These are the people who are celebrating Charlie's murder.
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These are the people sitting up there and saying, oh, it's weird.
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It's weird to miss a game because your friend was murdered, and you're going to a memorial.
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Someone that you knew in real life, a personal contact of yours, was brutally murdered on live television.
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Blake was standing just a few feet away from this, and we're sitting there acting like it's just, oh, some other news cycle or some other political cycle.
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It was going to become this litmus test on Charlie and the people who like Charlie and all this stuff.
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But guys like Gary up there, sitting up there, just like guys with Jimmy Kimmel.
01:16:57.360
Joe Rogan, who I called out yesterday because he was being flippant about it, too.
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He didn't care, you know, about what actually happened.
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Like, you are not getting the weight of this moment.
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If you are coming at this with like, I don't really get it, well, you're wrong.
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Yeah, this is actually crazy because what I'm realizing, Gary, Gary Cohen.
01:17:25.880
So this is what I'm realizing, though, is that the entirety of this story is Matt Shaw on defense.
01:17:31.320
When the truth of this story is that this Gary Cohen guy needs to be on defense because he's actually in the wrong.
01:17:40.720
His friend was murdered in a political assassination, the likes of which this country has not seen since the 1960s.
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Yes, he's our friend and brother in this, but they were actual friends that texted all the time.
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They hung out weeks before on the field in Wrigley.
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The game doesn't, whether they win or lose, changes nothing.
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And not only that, but Erica had reached out and personally invited him and asked him to come.
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This is from Caitlin Bennett, who once upon a time worked for us.
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I was busy yesterday with everything else going on.
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New York's Mets broadcaster Gary Cohen, who missed the game earlier when his dog died,
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calls it weird that a Cubs player missed the game to attend Charlie's funeral.
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So apparently Gary Cohen had missed a game when his dog died.
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But it's not even about like why someone lost their job.
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It's about people making light of what happened to Charlie.
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And I don't care if I lose bookings or whatever.
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And I don't care if you're Jimmy Kimmel or Joe Rogan or Gary Cohen, whoever.
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I'm going to call all of you out because it's sick.
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And it's certainly not weird that people would be great.
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Think about what that does to everyone here in this building beyond Charlie's family and
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But the people in this building, the people of Turning Point, the Turning Point kids, that
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he's like saying if something happens to you and people care, well, that's weird.
01:19:38.880
That strikes me as really weird for your dog's death.
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I mean, I know we got a lot of pet lovers out here.
01:19:45.520
And candidly, I wouldn't care, except for friend gets murdered, wife calls and asks you
01:20:04.780
The worst words are coming to mind, and I'm burying them because I want to honor the Lord.
01:20:09.240
I have nothing against people mourning their pets die.
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It's just like, how dare he come out against Shaw?
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Yeah, if you want to call the Mets and if you share our frustration, feel free.
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While you're at it, you can complain about the Mets melting down.
01:20:34.100
They might listen to this later or during the week.
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You should just call and let them know that you think Gary Cohen is a dirtbag.
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And tell him that, you know, goodness, like, have some humanity.
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Pray, Gary, because something's wrong with you if you've got a problem with somebody going to their friend's funeral that was just murdered in cold blood.
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And, by the way, that transformed the shape and trajectory of the history of this country.
01:21:10.080
Less than six months ago, Gary skipped a game because his dog died.
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I'm just going to surmise that my instincts tell me that if you are this much of a dirtbag to say this about somebody, just off the cuff, that, like, probably there's something more wrong.
01:21:55.920
The Mets are in the playoffs right now but are kind of at risk of blowing it.
01:22:10.120
So, first of all, Blue Used To Be Cool gave 20.
01:22:17.840
I am a 45-year-old Wisconsinite who owes Charlie and TPUSA for helping me get off the sidelines and doorknock and get involved.
01:22:32.520
And I'm still butthurt to this day that thanks to the 2000 election, we got stuck with blue as the liberal color and red as the conservative color.
01:22:45.240
And blue is the right-wing color everywhere else.
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I have never liked that we got stuck with that.
01:22:55.340
One of the best ways you can honor Charlie is to get involved yourself.
01:22:58.720
That's what you would always tell people to do.
01:23:07.940
You know, whip the votes of your family, of your neighborhood, of your friends.
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Which, by the way, we have something coming up.
01:23:18.760
We're going to be talking about them and posting about them.
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I am dedicating a chaplet for y'all's peace and protection.
01:23:33.100
Did y'all see Scooball throw that 90-mile-per-hour baseball straight into that guy's face?
01:23:39.060
I don't know if they mean Shaw or someone else.
01:23:47.740
As a baseball player, throwing at people actually can be extraordinarily dangerous.
01:23:53.100
So, I actually have a lot of respect for baseball.
01:24:05.260
How can I request to organize a sanctioned homeschool co-op?
01:24:10.680
Use the TPUSA community to create a standard curriculum.
01:24:15.760
We actually have specialty activism hubs that we do with homeschool.
01:24:20.240
So, the homeschool co-op, so through TP Turning Point Education, they actually work with homeschool groups directly.
01:24:30.580
So, you can go just search for Turning Point Education.
01:24:35.780
And then, we also have chapters specifically for co-ops.
01:24:39.860
So, if that's the question, you just go right to tpusastudents.com, and you can start a chapter or a hub for homeschool.
01:24:51.380
I actually got something in just now that it's not a rumble rant.
01:24:57.980
And I can't say it, because I don't know if I have permission to say it, but I'm just going to say it, that there is a person who, I guess, Charlie...
01:25:20.160
And this person has said that Charlie was a huge motivation, and says that they have decided to re-enter the church, accept Jesus, into their life, and will be detransitioning.
01:25:41.500
And said that because of everything that happened with Charlie, it had a huge impact on their life, and that's, yeah.
01:25:55.400
I have some more details, but I'm going to give it out.
01:25:58.820
Because if they were on camera, I don't want to make it like a thing.
01:26:02.580
I think we're closing out here in a moment, but we got one last from Zuzu's Petals.
01:26:21.300
He never existed, but then he says, I want to exist, and then he exists again, and he looks in his pocket, and he's got Zuzu's Petals.
01:26:41.900
Yeah, it was filmed in Los Angeles, and they brought in the snow, and yeah.
01:26:46.840
I think we've had Zuzu's Petals actually contribute to us before, because we talked about this.
01:26:56.400
I love how, by the way, I'm just going to say it, since we haven't really done any thought crimes tonight, we have to do one,
01:27:01.700
that when he goes to, like, the nightmarish upside-down world, and he looks up his wife, Mary, what is it, the mangel's Clarence, and he goes, oh, you don't want to see Mary, you don't want to see that, George, why not?
01:27:16.280
And he goes, she never married, she works at the library, she's a spinster!
01:27:22.840
It's not his brother being dead, it's not his uncle being in the madhouse.
01:27:31.780
But in the 1940s, that was a, like, nightmarish outcome.
01:27:34.480
Oh, I know, the value system, it's such a shocker.
01:27:37.560
All right, it's a good place to rap, guys, so Jake, or Jack, take us home.
01:27:50.340
It is the second Thought Crime Thursday that we've done with our fifth member on assignment with God,
01:27:58.140
and he's going to be on that assignment for a long time.
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You guys got to send these a little bit earlier or you'll miss them.
01:28:15.580
And then Benji63, I think I've seen that name before, too.
01:28:19.660
I've never had many women to look up to in my life, but Erica has become number one.
01:28:25.180
What a strong woman, full of faith, that every woman should strive to be like.
01:28:34.000
I think we're all taller than Erica, but we all look up to her.
01:28:35.660
I actually like the team in the studio is coming up with names.
01:28:41.540
And Caboose says, Admiral Andrew, which I'm going to fully endorse.
01:28:51.500
No, actually, you know what we call you, right?
01:29:03.080
Hey, eventually, I'm going to really like that.
01:29:09.140
I was guesting for Tim Pool a couple of days because he was sick before all this happened.
01:29:13.680
And one of the things that I'd love for this to be, you know, if we could carry on the
01:29:19.100
tradition here as well, one of the things that his subscribers or people do in the chat
01:29:24.320
is they put in a super chat or a rumble rant from the delivery room when one of them has
01:29:32.420
a baby or like their spouse has a baby or something.
01:29:38.260
Yeah, if you get engaged or have babies, we want to hear from you.
01:29:39.880
And I guest host it three days in a row, and it happened twice with his audience.
01:29:49.660
I like to honor and celebrate the good things in life.
01:29:52.640
Celebrate the life-giving things and the things that honor God and honor our country.
01:29:56.260
I think, if anything, it's that we've learned over the last couple of days.
01:30:00.720
I was talking to Dr. Drew today, and he said there's two big issues, right?
01:30:06.060
First is the new normal, and you really do have to deal with the new normal, and that's
01:30:09.680
hard questions, and we all have to deal with that.
01:30:22.920
And I think maybe, in a sense, us staying on mission and staying on point is a way to
01:30:30.640
And I love the fact that the show is still going, because I don't know if I'd be able
01:30:37.220
to do it without all you guys and without everybody being here.
01:30:41.160
It's been nice to have everybody around the office and around town, and it's been a huge
01:30:48.560
Yeah, it's not about speeches or followers or tweets or whatever.
01:30:55.240
It's about just being with your family, being with your people.
01:31:01.300
All right, folks, on that very non-thought-crimey note, we are going to go and remind you to