Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - ThoughtCrime LIVE from AmFest

00:00:00.000 From the age of Big Brother.

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00:00:04.960 DNSA specifically targets the communications of everyone.

00:00:08.900 They're collecting your communications.

00:00:19.100 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to ThoughtCrime Live.

00:00:23.280 Oh my goodness.

00:00:24.920 Oh my goodness.

00:00:26.320 Look at this.

00:00:27.400 We got the whole Motley crew.

00:00:29.980 Thank you for being here, folks.

00:00:31.460 Seriously, thank you for being here.

00:00:35.560 We've got Blake and Andrew on their way here.

00:00:38.760 So we got Jack Posobiec here on Thought Crime.

00:00:42.920 Ladies and gentlemen, I know it's Friday.

00:00:45.720 We usually do Thought Crime Thursday,

00:00:47.720 so I hope you won't mind if we're doing Thought Crime on Friday.

00:00:50.300 Is that all right with all of you?

00:00:52.120 Hell yeah.

00:00:53.020 All right, we got Cliff Maloney.

00:00:54.500 You know Cliff from the P.A. Chase.

00:00:56.000 What's up, Cliff?

00:00:56.940 Hello, hello.

00:00:57.480 Then we got to create, of course, the great Tyler Boyer.

00:01:01.020 What's up, guys? How we doing?

00:01:03.220 And everyone's favorite, Mikey McCoy.

00:01:07.060 Mikey!

00:01:08.700 Now, there's rules about thought crime.

00:01:12.020 Now, people don't realize this, but there are rules.

00:01:14.880 When we created this show, we said there's one rule above all rules.

00:01:20.640 Anything goes on thought crime, all right?

00:01:24.000 no censorship no question that is denied there is no topic that's not allowed to be discussed

00:01:31.380 that is how thought crime works but there's also another rule no jackets on thought crime so i said

00:01:38.040 when we were backstage i said mikey cliff take them off and i threw mine off too no suit jackets

00:01:43.900 so if andrew colvette comes out here wearing a jacket or if blake neff comes out here with what

00:01:50.140 is that his five dollar macy special uh wait do you not have a mic no it's broken oh his mic is

00:01:55.780 broken that's okay he doesn't have anything to say anyway that uh no we'll figure that out and 0.97

00:02:02.260 that uh that they got to take him off by the way shout out because we got two beautiful ladies here

00:02:07.300 in the front wearing thought crime t-shirts that they made themselves 1.00

00:02:11.760 which is so amazing but but tyler i'm pretty sure that's copyright infringement right so

00:02:19.860 no that's the thought crime no that's the thought crime look look look we have we have good lawyers

00:02:25.480 so i don't know it did say anything goes though we did say that look when we started this show

00:02:32.260 and tyler maybe you could speak to this a little bit because we started this show with charlie

00:02:36.960 because we needed to find a way to add to kind of talk about those subjects and talk about those

00:02:44.100 topics that didn't really fit into a daily news cycle. They didn't really fit into just

00:02:49.320 whatever was going on on Twitter or something like that. So we said, let's do a show where

00:02:55.280 it's just a couple of the guys sitting around talking about the issues and we're going to

00:03:00.500 break all the rules. Yeah. I mean, that's where it started was thought crime was developed as

00:03:07.360 every day. It's like the hard news that Charlie was delivering and it was exhausting to talk

00:03:13.060 about it every single day. And we just wanted a vacation. We wanted a vacation from all that

00:03:19.020 just to talk about all the cultural things going on. So that's what we're going to do here today.

00:03:23.460 Who's open for some topics? Oh, we just throw into it. We're throwing to it. All right, folks,

00:03:29.940 we got a lot of people here today. So I say we're just going for it. Now, as Charlie would always

00:03:34.820 say, disagreeers to the front because that is the standard that Charlie has always set. So if you

00:03:41.920 disagree with something we ever said

00:03:44.160 and you know in fact and if

00:03:45.980 anything that Charlie ever said we'll come up here

00:03:47.980 we'll speak for him if we can

00:03:49.220 you can come up to the front so guys have

00:03:51.940 at it

00:03:52.760 alright how's it going gentlemen my name

00:03:55.980 is Dino talk right into it

00:03:57.720 my name is Brady his name is Dino

00:03:59.460 yeah and we have a controversial

00:04:01.880 question for you we're actually stuck at an impasse

00:04:04.200 ourselves and we need your help with this one

00:04:05.940 Brady what's the best Star Wars

00:04:08.280 movie my favorite Star Wars

00:04:10.380 movie is a new hope the original we're having a big debate so we're curious what you guys thoughts

00:04:14.020 are he's absolutely incorrect it's empire strikes back by the way oh okay should i just say is that

00:04:20.180 seems like it's a setup for me right yeah let's go yeah i'm sorry star wars is fake and gay um 0.92

00:04:25.360 i'm sorry i was just thought crime i'm sorry i can't do it not only do i think it's fake and gay 0.65

00:04:33.180 but it's star wars is banned in my house i don't let the kids watch it and here's why here's why

00:04:38.640 because when i see those disney adults that are walking around at disneyland and disney world

00:04:44.220 i'm telling you those guys give me creeper vibes like blippy i don't want them around my kids i

00:04:48.880 don't want my kids around that so we're anti-star wars in the poso house let's go yeah but what's

00:04:54.000 what's gear lord of the rings or star wars i mean so tyler has this wait you said it is or it isn't 0.95

00:05:01.440 lord of the rings it is we we talked about this yeah so tyler says lord of the rings is gay 0.91

00:05:06.600 What do you think? Is Tyler right about that? 0.99

00:05:09.780 Absolutely not.

00:05:10.680 Mikey, you have some thoughts.

00:05:12.480 I think the better question is what's the better

00:05:14.740 trilogy. And for all

00:05:16.840 us young people, it's the prequels.

00:05:19.160 But Rogue One

00:05:20.980 is the greatest Star Wars

00:05:22.800 movie. And it's not

00:05:24.700 fake and gay. 0.98

00:05:27.240 I think you thinking 1.00

00:05:28.920 Star Wars is fake and gay is fake 1.00

00:05:30.880 and gay. 1.00

00:05:31.460 Back to the subject matter. 0.73

00:05:35.100 Return of the Jedi.

00:05:36.600 is the best star wars film and bold bold look return of the jedi i will no i can i can steel

00:05:45.560 man this and i do want to move topics i don't want to do all star wars but return return of the jedi

00:05:50.280 is a great movie because it shows the redemption arc and it shows a biblical redemption arc

00:05:58.180 whereby in when darth vader goes and atones for what he's done and seeks redemption through his

00:06:05.520 son his son leads him on the path from evil to goodness that's the original story of star wars

00:06:13.260 but then george lucas got involved and then disney got involved and i'm sorry they messed 0.78

00:06:19.600 it all up kennedy got involved they messed it all up and they made it fake and gay just like netflix

00:06:24.300 there's a lot of people i could do this all day i'll say no i'm gonna say this too all the new 0.76

00:06:30.880 movies they jacked this entire thing up they totally screwed up snoke and everything else

00:06:36.260 the worst that is the worst part of the news so it's a big dei film now it's all dei it's all

00:06:43.460 no you know what i got in trouble for saying this on twitter in 2015 fine i'm just gonna say it it's

00:06:47.860 thought crime right you want to talk about how it's dei so go look at the disney star wars movies

00:06:53.040 all right all the bad guys are straight white men every single bad guy in the disney star wars

00:07:02.040 movies is a straight white man i said this on 2015 i got ripped on and all of the what do they call

00:07:08.280 them the the it's not the rebels it's like uh the resistance alliance or whatever all of the all of

00:07:13.840 them it's like you know it's like the diversity quota at the united nations or something are the

00:07:19.440 good guys and i'm sorry but it's very clear what you're doing because you're trying to paint a

00:07:24.680 target on the back of straight white men in this country and we're sick of it and charlie was sick

00:07:29.800 of it and we're done with it thank you all thank you dino brady that was a great question but but

00:07:36.760 snoke did kind of look like joe biden that was a little bit a little bit a little bit so i mean

00:07:43.440 you gotta give him that and now you gotta top the star wars question hi thank you so much for being

00:07:48.260 here today? My name is Blakely. I'm 13 years old. Charlie's death inspired my faith and my interest

00:07:53.380 on growing academically. You got to talk really close to the mic. It's these, these, they don't

00:07:57.480 pick it up. Okay. I'll start. You got to shout, shout at us. Thank you so much for being here

00:08:01.860 today. My name is Blakely. I'm 13 years old. Charlie's death inspired my faith and my interest

00:08:07.440 on growing academically on my own. Can you share with me how much he read and how he retained the

00:08:12.520 information he learned so how the question is how much how much faith meant to us and help us get

00:08:18.540 it through charlie how much charlie read and how he retained the information he learned oh reading

00:08:24.060 this is a good mikey question yeah yeah he read all the time but actually something else charlie

00:08:28.900 did is especially on long flights he would have his laptop open and he would be arguing with chat

00:08:34.780 gpt for like five hours and and he was like i would say what are you doing charlie he's like

00:08:41.080 i'm practicing for the campus tours and he would he would tell chapter gbt you know pretend to be a

00:08:46.740 purple haired lib at berkeley let's argue no but he read a ton and he actually there's we should

00:08:54.200 see if we should get those chat logs or something yeah we should work on that we should try to

00:08:57.720 figure out how to get those that'd be good at finding logs sam altman sam altman if you're

00:09:01.740 there what are you at your call logs right yeah exactly yeah we got mike don't worry folks we

00:09:06.480 I checked out Mikey's call logs.

00:09:07.820 He's clean.

00:09:08.580 No calls to Egypt.

00:09:09.900 No calls to Mossad.

00:09:11.440 No calls to France.

00:09:13.860 He's clean, folks.

00:09:14.720 He's clean.

00:09:16.000 He read a lot, though.

00:09:17.460 Reading was super important.

00:09:18.740 And so we have a reading list online, too, of what Charlie liked.

00:09:21.940 How did he retain what he read or what he learned?

00:09:28.020 What would he read?

00:09:28.760 Is that the question?

00:09:29.220 No, how?

00:09:30.460 How did he retain?

00:09:32.080 Oh, okay.

00:09:33.120 A lot of people.

00:09:33.820 Charlie didn't necessarily have a photographic memory, too.

00:09:36.480 by the way. So he would just read a lot and he took notes all the time. Everywhere he went,

00:09:41.240 he had a notebook with him. And like, if he was on this stage right now, he would be writing down

00:09:46.100 stuff that he liked. He would star it, circle it. That was the best way for him to retain

00:09:50.320 information. Yeah. I think all throughout Charlie's life and everything that I ever watched,

00:09:55.380 he wrote down and lists and lists and lists and he would cross through things every time. Big

00:10:00.300 list person so i think one of the best speeches at the memorial uh which goes to reading was uh

00:10:07.140 dr larry arn and he talked about when charlie went to him and he quizzed him and at one point

00:10:13.840 charlie kind of you know froze and he turned to him and said what do i do and i just think that

00:10:19.200 dr orange response was pretty prophetic where he was like you got to read and he gave him you know

00:10:25.220 a bunch of things to start with the classics and then go into this but i do i think reading is such

00:10:29.720 a, it's so easy

00:10:31.620 to make the excuses. It's like, no, we got to double

00:10:33.620 down. You can't fake it till you make it.

00:10:35.640 That's what the left does. We have to have a

00:10:37.540 true belief in what we're reading, and

00:10:39.600 you have to dive deep to do that. So that was a great question.

00:10:41.900 Thank you. Keep it up.

00:10:43.480 Read a lot.

00:10:47.060 Give it up

00:10:47.660 for Cliff Maloney. Cliff, give everyone your

00:10:49.500 coordinates, by the way. On X, at Maloney.

00:10:51.840 Love y'all. Doors win wars.

00:10:54.040 Doors win wars. Cliff's got a

00:10:55.660 book coming out soon that's going to be absolutely

00:10:57.800 fantastic. You've got to check it out.

00:11:05.080 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:11:06.340 do you know a man by the name of

00:11:07.960 Blake Neff?

00:11:10.760 Leave this open.

00:11:12.720 I wanted to leave one.

00:11:14.020 Jack, hold on. I was told you were

00:11:16.100 saying mean things about my jacket.

00:11:17.940 I heard you when I walked in.

00:11:19.560 I didn't say anything mean about the jacket.

00:11:21.260 Did you guys hear me say anything mean about the jacket?

00:11:24.340 No, see?

00:11:25.240 I heard it.

00:11:26.680 I heard it.

00:11:27.200 No, no, it's fake news.

00:11:28.180 You were trying to deny people the jacket.

00:11:30.320 It was Mikey.

00:11:30.960 It was Mikey.

00:11:31.520 Oh, Mikey was doing it?

00:11:32.380 It was Mikey, yeah.

00:11:33.760 So I've got a Mikey problem now.

00:11:36.160 Oh, everybody's got a Mikey problem.

00:11:38.200 Mikey, no, no, hold on.

00:11:39.820 We're embracing confrontation at this AmFest.

00:11:42.780 Mikey, apologize to the jacket.

00:11:45.280 No, I literally take you shopping because you have a bad closet, Blake.

00:11:49.300 I'm not apologizing to you.

00:11:51.360 Yeah, Mikey's literally the one that...

00:11:53.500 It's true, it's literally true. 0.94

00:11:53.680 You have opinions about closets too, Mr. Lord of the Rings' gay guy. 1.00

00:11:59.720 Folks, I did want to leave. 1.00

00:12:01.140 We had the seat here, but I wanted to make sure that we left this seat right here

00:12:05.220 for the co-host who isn't with us today.

00:12:09.860 Charlie Kirk is on assignment right now, so he's not going to be able to join us.

00:12:13.340 He's on assignment with God.

00:12:19.120 Let's get to our next question.

00:12:21.100 Hi, guys. My name's Liam. I'm all the way here from Florida.

00:12:23.680 So I kind of linked up with Jack's brother before this, and he kind of encouraged me to ask you guys, so thank you to him for that.

00:12:30.680 I come from a military family. My grandfather was in the Vietnam War as a Marine.

00:12:34.680 My dad was in Operation Desert Storm as a Marine.

00:12:37.680 So sometimes I struggle with the thought of imperialism.

00:12:41.680 And I think that sometimes we should be the world police, because a lot of people do really bad things.

00:12:47.680 but then also sometimes I think that we should let others settle their disputes on their own

00:12:53.140 and kind of save our tax money for domestic problems.

00:12:57.480 I just want to know what your guys' thoughts are on that and what your advice is for me.

00:13:00.800 Well, I have an immediate imperial thought.

00:13:03.320 The first imperial thought that I have is that Arizona should own a lot more of Mexico

00:13:08.080 and specifically Rocky Point.

00:13:12.140 We've actually talked about this on the show before.

00:13:14.980 So people don't realize that America won the Mexican-American War.

00:13:20.300 The United States won.

00:13:21.560 And originally, the border between the U.S. and Mexico was much, much different.

00:13:26.240 Ladies and gentlemen, did you know that Charlie Kirk, like the rest of us, agreed,

00:13:30.080 I think Arizona should have a beachfront.

00:13:32.280 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:33.280 You think Arizona deserves a beach?

00:13:35.540 Who hears from Arizona?

00:13:39.180 Why don't we have a beach? 1.00

00:13:41.600 No, they just let the Mexicans keep it. 1.00

00:13:42.620 It doesn't even make sense. 0.98

00:13:43.520 It's just a straight line that goes right across to Rocky Point.

00:13:46.680 That place would be so much nicer.

00:13:48.480 I mean, we can keep the food. 0.97

00:13:50.220 It's totally ridiculous, Mikey.

00:13:51.840 Yeah, Mexico can have Tucson, and we get Rocky Point. 0.97

00:13:55.840 Yeah.

00:13:56.600 What do we think?

00:13:59.700 We trade South Tucson, and we get Rocky Point.

00:14:04.580 No, I want to.

00:14:05.220 I would keep going.

00:14:06.360 I think we should take over all of Baja.

00:14:07.820 We could conquer Baja, California in a day.

00:14:11.060 Well, let me hear it.

00:14:11.560 In one day.

00:14:12.180 Let me answer this guy.

00:14:12.920 Everyone here bearing arms could go take over Baja, California right now.

00:14:17.880 I feel like one California was enough.

00:14:18.480 Literally, we could take all of AmFest.

00:14:20.440 I'm probably going to get thrown in jail for saying that.

00:14:22.020 Pretty much all the guys at AmFest, I think we could take all of Baja, California.

00:14:27.000 What do you think, guys?

00:14:27.600 Should we do it?

00:14:29.400 So in all seriousness, it's a very serious question.

00:14:32.300 So yes, there's some imperialism that's great.

00:14:34.800 Getting Mexico, Baja, California, and Rocky Point.

00:14:40.400 And you're talking about something that's directly in America's interest.

00:14:43.400 Yeah, when it benefits America, we need to be imperialistic.

00:14:47.920 When it doesn't benefit America, we need to get the heck out, right?

00:14:51.200 So, like, that's kind of the simple solution.

00:14:52.780 My answer on all of that is America first.

00:14:57.500 I am interested to see, though, by raise of hand,

00:15:00.600 who in the room is America first and America only,

00:15:03.960 and who in the room is America first but not America only.

00:15:07.700 all right america first and america only raise your hand

00:15:12.500 america first and not just america only all right wow that's quite the spread

00:15:21.000 split was like 50 50 interesting split interesting split no i like that and now they have to all get

00:15:26.220 in a giant pit and kill each other yes yes that's right no the pit is out back um so look when it

00:15:31.740 comes down to it i think one of the reasons that trump won in the first place is this idea that

00:15:36.880 America had suffered what many historic empires, as Blake knows, imperial overreach. And getting

00:15:44.620 involved in every single dispute around the country, or excuse me, around the world, is not

00:15:49.180 what our founding fathers instituted America as a limited republic to be able to do. It was made for

00:15:55.180 the benefit of the American people, for our prosperity, for their posterity as well. And so,

00:16:01.880 no, that doesn't mean that we have to get involved in every dispute, whether it's Asia,

00:16:05.880 whether it's South America, or yes, even the Middle East, it's some things just aren't our job.

00:16:12.980 Yeah, thank you. I wanted to add just one more expansion on that. And then I kind of had your

00:16:18.460 brother ask me a question in return. So what do we like, where do we draw the line? Right? Like

00:16:25.220 in today, I know President Trump's doing a great job trying to hold other countries accountable

00:16:28.880 when we're supplying them with guns and stuff for war and military supplies. Where do you draw

00:16:35.680 the line uh for countries that sort of take advantage of us like uh for instance you could 0.58

00:16:40.820 say ukraine where we give them our guns and then right in return they take them and sell them

00:16:45.760 yeah no when i was in ukraine in 2022 within a couple hours of traveling to lviv right after

00:16:53.600 the war started i even met people who were selling american weapons right there in kiev

00:16:58.700 and i was at this place and with some of the resistance guys and they're saying hey if you

00:17:03.120 give us some money we can give you some we give you some ARs and we'll send it and turns out that

00:17:07.500 he had actually like sold to promise someone that he could get them ARs and he was trying to get me

00:17:11.740 to pay for it because he had already spent the money totally corrupt just insane levels of

00:17:15.520 corruption that were going on yeah I know right yeah like no seriously and Charlie got really

00:17:21.420 mad because I went to Ukraine and didn't tell him I was going and he was like what do you mean you

00:17:25.400 were in Ukraine all week it's like don't worry about it dude I'm fine and look where do we draw

00:17:31.500 the line. We draw the line at saying

00:17:33.080 it is stupid for the United 1.00

00:17:35.540 States of America to back a 1.00

00:17:37.420 losing war and a losing

00:17:39.420 proposition and it gets to the point

00:17:41.520 where we need to put peace first

00:17:43.360 and we need to solve our disputes

00:17:45.160 with talk, with diplomacy

00:17:47.220 and yes, maybe indefinitely leverage

00:17:49.560 but not with warfare. Thank you.

00:17:51.640 Thank you guys. God bless.

00:17:53.040 That brings up this idea

00:17:54.940 and this probably would be a fight with this guy.

00:17:58.560 Do we

00:17:58.960 like the UN or do we hate the UN?

00:18:01.500 because I want to get out of the U.N.

00:18:05.060 Boo! 0.96

00:18:06.040 Get the U.N.

00:18:08.140 It makes no sense.

00:18:09.240 We could totally take it advantage of by the U.N.

00:18:11.320 and the decisions that are made by the U.N.

00:18:15.960 I say take it over.

00:18:18.700 So that's the other debate.

00:18:19.640 Take over the building by force.

00:18:21.320 Send in SEAL Team 6.

00:18:22.660 Let's get to the next question.

00:18:23.580 Baja, California first or the U.N.?

00:18:26.320 Baja.

00:18:26.960 Storm the cap.

00:18:28.740 My name is Daniel.

00:18:29.940 I'm from Jacksonville, Florida, and my question is related to immigration.

00:18:35.160 There's been a lot of talk about it, such as the Hart-Celler Act from 1965 and just a lot of discussion over it.

00:18:42.900 Trump had even said he believes that we should bring more Scandinavians in.

00:18:47.100 As someone who does actually have family from Sweden, my uncle, who's an American but has lived in Sweden for 20 years and has a family, is actually visiting.

00:18:53.960 And the thing that gets me is that Europe today is, let's just say, not culturally or politically really similar to America.

00:19:07.420 And Europeans, like, culturally are very different.

00:19:10.800 Just as an example, like, a poll had showed that, like, 90% of Scandinavians oppose Donald Trump and think Kamala Harris would have been a better president.

00:19:19.060 How do we go about immigration reform to ensure that we bring in immigrants that will actually benefit the country and will keep the country America first and culturally conservative long term, even in places that might be aesthetically nice, such as Sweden and Denmark and these other places, but culturally are like to the left of Vermont?

00:19:41.120 Yeah, no, that's a great question, because there's a lot of foreign countries that are hostile to America. 0.65

00:19:45.660 We don't have a serious vetting system in our country. 0.99

00:19:49.620 And so I think the real answer is, what's the best way to do? 0.96

00:19:52.680 Shut down immigration until we can figure out what the hell is going on at our borders. 1.00

00:19:59.580 We have so many migrants in this country. 1.00

00:20:02.940 We have tens of millions that are here that came in under Biden that were not vetted at all.

00:20:07.400 Some of them, by the way, who came out of Kabul that walk up to our soldiers

00:20:11.060 and shoot them in the head right outside of the White House.

00:20:14.780 You got this guy at Brown University who was on a green card and apparently just went on a killing spree to settle an old grudge, it seems like. 0.99

00:20:22.640 Or, I mean, we don't really know exactly what happened there, but it's clearly something that's causing a major problem in our country.

00:20:30.320 And we have way too many people that should not be here, period. 1.00

00:20:34.900 And what, 18, the Somalis in Minnesota, you guys heard this, the Somalis in Minnesota, they came up with a number.

00:20:42.100 I believe the U.S. Attorney just put it out yesterday.

00:20:44.760 $18 billion

00:20:45.800 scammed from the

00:20:47.960 that's just on the state level in

00:20:50.060 Minnesota. $18 billion.

00:20:52.620 Ladies and gentlemen, they gotta go.

00:20:54.500 They just gotta go. You gotta send them 0.99

00:20:56.100 back. Remigration. Reverse 1.00

00:20:58.080 migration. This is the way 0.99

00:20:59.960 and once we get a handle

00:21:01.580 on the people who are here

00:21:03.900 and the people who shouldn't be here, then we can

00:21:06.020 talk about whether or not we want to reopen

00:21:08.120 that aperture. I don't know. Do you guys want to

00:21:10.000 weigh in?

00:21:12.100 i mean i'm literally doing the math on my phone here because that's what i do because i'm a crazy

00:21:19.520 person ladies and gentlemen blake neff uses a calculator just so you know yeah what so don't

00:21:25.020 feel bad so 18 billion divided by about 80 000 is how many of there are that's 225 000 per person

00:21:32.040 225 000 per person of the somalians in minnesota and look folks when you here's what happens when 0.73

00:21:39.680 you come from a culture that doesn't see anything wrong with scamming with stealing with lying they 0.75

00:21:46.420 will go to the government and claim that all of their children have autism and then take every

00:21:51.200 single dollar that's meant for actual special needs kids and they will pocket it and will not

00:21:57.040 feel bad about it at all they will congratulate each other on how smart they were to bilk the 0.82

00:22:02.360 u.s system and use our good nature against us and every single one of them who did that should be

00:22:08.560 arrested and deported immediately or they'll fake marry their brother so they can get a nicer 0.75

00:22:14.840 apartment some of them even marry their own brothers to sneak into the country i don't know

00:22:19.940 if anyone's ever heard of any name some of them would even do that and then run for congress

00:22:25.200 run for congress speeches in a non-english language about dedicating their congressional

00:22:30.800 career to the well-being of a country that is not america gosh i i just i can't just hypothetically

00:22:36.760 Hypothetically, hypothetically. Folks, the system's completely out of control, and we, I don't want to talk, the only immigration reform that we need to have is reforming the direction of the immigration from in to out.

00:22:52.500 Thank you so much. 0.92

00:22:54.280 So you're saying we need a total moratorium on people marrying their brothers and they're running from Congress? 0.95

00:23:00.200 Yes, yes. Brother marriage. 0.89

00:23:02.400 Jack is calling for a moratorium on all brother marriage.

00:23:07.040 Brother marriage, sister marriage, cousin marriage, second cousin marriage, third cousin marriage, clan marriage, tribe marriage, child marriage.

00:23:14.600 I'm against it all, folks. 1.00

00:23:15.900 The point is you only get this stuff when you let crazy people into this country, and that woman is a crazy person. 0.98

00:23:22.220 They're not like us, folks. 1.00

00:23:23.600 They're not like us. 0.85

00:23:25.480 Right?

00:23:26.080 Why are we even having these?

00:23:27.920 What are we even doing here?

00:23:31.360 All right, next.

00:23:32.400 My name is Corby. I am a conservative Christian mother of eight.

00:23:38.360 Let's go. All right. Let's go. Eight.

00:23:42.320 More kids. More kids. More kids. More kids. More kids.

00:23:47.520 Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.

00:23:49.980 But I did my job. It's everybody else's job.

00:23:55.160 We're getting there. We're getting there.

00:23:56.820 Anyways, unfortunately, I live in the blue state of Washington.

00:24:00.900 and

00:24:02.840 being here has been very

00:24:07.000 invigorating and it's like

00:24:08.960 I found like a home

00:24:10.480 like I can wear my hat

00:24:12.780 I can wear my shirt

00:24:14.940 you know and people say nice shirt

00:24:17.080 nice hat

00:24:18.000 praise God and it's wonderful

00:24:20.460 but I also have friends that are

00:24:22.960 not Christians and

00:24:24.920 although I don't agree with everything 1.00

00:24:26.940 I do they're still

00:24:28.140 loving parts of my life

00:24:30.380 where can those friends fit into this organization and where where do they

00:24:39.680 find their part here and I also have a question about like the separation of

00:24:44.880 church and state like I understand that this is like a private entity but it's

00:24:50.360 also very political and although I agree with it and it's my home you know where

00:24:57.380 do you draw the line and especially for the people that aren't of the christian faith tyler you want

00:25:03.200 to take the first part yeah i'll say this at turning point what's a wonderful thing is that

00:25:07.880 you can be pro a lot of things and not have to like rip each other's heads off about disagreements

00:25:15.400 all the time the vast majority of people i think this has been demonstrated and discussed a lot

00:25:20.620 And Charlie said this all the time, is that, you know, America was founded as a Christian nation, that we have Christian principles that enable this country to operate in a way that is accepting and loving of other people who don't necessarily always agree with our faith or what we stand for.

00:25:41.700 but the moment you start to walk away from that is the moment that things start to fall apart and

00:25:46.920 people start marrying their brothers to get citizenship and then you you have them run for

00:25:50.660 you see what i'm saying so we just went we just covered that pretty quickly so you have a situation

00:25:55.700 in america where you can be pro your christian beliefs and faith and not have to run away from

00:26:02.040 that and that's the america that was that was founded that was understood that we that the

00:26:08.300 founders really had intended and not have to be at the throats of other people who disagree,

00:26:13.300 but lead by example and build a community that's going to be welcoming for everyone.

00:26:17.420 And I think that's what we've got here is a really welcoming community where I think everybody,

00:26:21.440 no matter what your faith, religious background, you come in and hopefully you're having a great

00:26:25.080 time here at AmericaFest. And I think that that's what, that's the environment you can create that

00:26:30.320 really kind of allows for the original intent that the founders had to continue. The opposite

00:26:40.780 of that, I would say, is that you can look at some examples that really aren't working, and

00:26:45.640 Europe's a really good example of this, where there's so much bending the knee to other people's

00:26:51.180 cultures and other people's ideas that what's happened is that you don't have any identity

00:26:55.940 any longer. And violence ensues and anger and animosity ensue. And that's really a lot of what

00:27:02.820 we're seeing across Europe. Well, and you look at it too, you mentioned the separation of church

00:27:06.700 and state, but here's something I found that's so interesting about this. Now, obviously that's not

00:27:10.640 in our constitution. That's not found in our founding documents. The first amendment, the

00:27:14.980 protection of religion enshrined in the first amendment was for the protection of the exercise

00:27:20.120 of religion so that the government couldn't stop you from exercising your religion and that we

00:27:25.240 would not have a Church of America the way that the Church of England had the Church of England,

00:27:29.240 which is now the Anglican Church or the Episcopalian Church in America. However,

00:27:32.920 I would posit that after the 1960s and the counter-cultural revolution took place in

00:27:40.480 America, the sexual revolution, the atheist revolution, progressivism took hold, isn't it

00:27:45.480 interesting that there's only one religion that we're told is not allowed in the public square?

00:27:51.000 We are told that the only religion that isn't allowed is the religion of Jesus Christ, the Ten Commandments, displays of the cross, nativity scenes in public, every other religion.

00:28:02.360 If it was Islam, they would say, oh, no, no, no, that's intolerance. 0.94

00:28:05.720 But if it's Christianity, they say, get rid of it, get it out of the public square. 1.00

00:28:09.560 And I'm going to tell you something. 0.99

00:28:10.760 If you're going to be a Christian in today's America, you must be a public Christian. 0.95

00:28:16.200 We have to return Christianity to the public square. 0.98

00:28:19.480 Charlie Cook served for that. 1.00

00:28:21.000 And he was exactly right.

00:28:22.780 Jack, that's the happy holidays manifesto, right?

00:28:27.180 You don't have to mitigate your own faith for someone else to feel like their faith is elevated.

00:28:35.260 Does that make sense?

00:28:36.480 Everybody here can practice their faith to the maximum capacity.

00:28:40.340 And they should.

00:28:41.120 Everyone should do that.

00:28:43.100 And, you know, that's what America is all about is everyone can go zero to 60 on their own faith.

00:28:48.260 That doesn't mean that you have to mitigate yours.

00:28:49.900 and that's what the left wants. The left wants you to shut up. Yeah, and I'll add to the point 0.64

00:28:55.380 on separation of church and state. If the gospel and Christianity is objective truth and it's the

00:29:00.800 highest hierarchy of truth, you cannot separate truth from the state or anarchy and lies and 0.58

00:29:08.740 darkness will then take over where truth is the absence of it. And so in a world of lies and

00:29:15.400 darkness, the truth is oftentimes not something that's popular. And so as Christians, we have a

00:29:21.880 mandate and an obligation to bring that truth in that light into the darkest places in our nation,

00:29:28.480 in our world. And it's oftentimes going to be really unpopular, really uncomfortable. And I

00:29:35.080 mean, in Charlie's case, he was literally bringing the truth and the gospel to the darkest places,

00:29:42.460 which is oftentimes college campuses, UC Davis, Berkeley.

00:29:46.520 And so we have an obligation.

00:29:48.520 We have to fulfill it.

00:29:50.240 Yeah, I mean, government is the darkest place.

00:29:54.340 Thank you, and Merry Christmas.

00:29:55.460 College campuses are the reflection of the darkest places in America.

00:29:59.700 Hi, I'm Eli.

00:30:01.820 I have two questions.

00:30:03.320 One is yesterday somebody brought up the attack on the USS Liberty,

00:30:07.680 and what are your opinions on that?

00:30:08.860 And then my next question is, how are Erica and her kids doing with Charlie?

00:30:14.940 Sure.

00:30:15.260 So as a Navy veteran, I'll talk about the USS Liberty.

00:30:18.400 And obviously, it's something that we, as Navy veterans, as anyone who serves in the Navy, you learn about, you study, and you realize that we live in a serious world.

00:30:28.320 And it's something that a lot of people in the Navy feel that we never really got full accountability for.

00:30:34.240 I still have a lot of questions about the Navy investigation that was done and the official statements that came out.

00:30:39.720 A lot of people said, you know, it just doesn't feel like it's good enough when you have a naval ship flying the U.S. flag that's being attacked by a country that you are nominally supposed to believe is an ally.

00:30:51.800 But one interesting piece on this that I've also heard from Roger Stone goes like this.

00:30:57.720 So if you look at it, Blake, when was the Gulf of Tonkin?

00:31:01.700 around i think it was 63 64 yeah 63 64 was gulf of tonkin then you have um uss liberty which comes

00:31:09.880 in 67 and so the gulf of tonkin incident was a situation where the president at the time lbj

00:31:16.900 used this sort of like fake hoax to get the united states involved in the war of vietnam by claiming

00:31:23.220 a ship had been attacked roger stone says that he's got evidence that it was lbj was trying to

00:31:29.540 do the exact same thing with the USS Liberty to try to get the U.S. involved in that war as well

00:31:35.500 to turn around and claim that it wasn't Israel that attacked but that it was Egypt that attacked

00:31:39.700 so I think that's an interesting that's an interesting case study and it's something that

00:31:43.020 I'd certainly like to look in a lot more myself you mentioned Erica and the kids um you know I

00:31:48.180 I talk to Erica pretty regularly and she's she's so strong she's so incredibly strong and I don't

00:31:55.340 think I don't think this AmFest would have happened without Erica I don't think it would

00:31:59.220 happen without her strength and her being there as that central cornerstone new cornerstone for

00:32:05.560 the organization the one that Charlie chose himself I don't know Mikey if you want to speak

00:32:09.540 on that yeah I mean I was talking with Justin from our team at Turning Point USA the other day

00:32:15.920 and we were both like we're so exhausted it's it's been crazy and then we were like how is Erica

00:32:23.140 still doing this and it's it's honestly amazing what she's able to pull off guys this event this

00:32:31.320 coalition the glue that charlie was erica has fulfilled that the absence that charlie left

00:32:38.560 behind all while doing a million things being attacked on social media whatever it is she is

00:32:45.540 like literally anti-fragile like she is the you attack her and she gets stronger and it's it's

00:32:51.480 beautiful. She's a representation of what young women and women in general should just strive to

00:32:58.460 be. And to the USS Liberty thing, I'll just say this as a young person, okay? I wish more people

00:33:06.680 in the conservative movement just wouldn't lie about what happened that day. I think it was a

00:33:13.200 US ship. They were flying a US flag. There was markings all over. Israel knew it was the US

00:33:20.800 and they still attacked. And you can say that and still be pro-Israel, but you can say a lot of time 0.77

00:33:26.980 has passed. Reparations are paid, but why do we have to lie about it as a movement? Just tell the

00:33:32.300 truth. It's simple. So like I said, guys, any question? Was that good? Thank you very much.

00:33:39.860 Merry Christmas.

00:33:40.600 Who's next?

00:33:41.780 Merry Christmas, kid.

00:33:44.320 Hello.

00:33:45.160 Thrilled to be here.

00:33:47.080 My name's Jan Greyhack, and I'm from Spokane, Washington.

00:33:50.140 I'm Catholic.

00:33:51.380 I'm a mom, a grandma.

00:33:51.580 All right.

00:33:51.940 That's the good side of Washington.

00:33:53.320 Wait.

00:33:54.120 That's the red side of Washington.

00:33:57.020 Well, it's a little purple, but, yeah, we're trying to get it.

00:34:00.560 Well, greater Idaho.

00:34:02.160 That's what we want to make, right?

00:34:03.340 I'm right next to Idaho.

00:34:04.880 I say new state.

00:34:06.040 Break it off.

00:34:06.540 That's what I'm saying.

00:34:07.600 Oh, new state.

00:34:08.620 No, new state.

00:34:09.340 See, look, look, all right, I'm going to step on because this is my thought crime tangent, all right?

00:34:15.080 So people say, should the conservative parts of blue states break off, like California's got conservative parts, Oregon, Washington, like Western Maryland, should they break off and join red states?

00:34:26.320 I say no, don't join red states, form your own states, because then you get, for every single state, you get a governor and two red senators added to the United States Senate.

00:34:39.340 two more two more yeah so we should so we need a new state between eastern oregon eastern

00:34:47.960 washington can create a form a new state state of jefferson right there yeah you'd be down for

00:34:54.780 that right anyone here from oregon new york yeah northern california northern california we could

00:35:01.360 turn that thing into jefferson it'll be so cool i don't think you guys are going to like what

00:35:04.320 happens if Trump learns about the fact that the annexation treaty with Texas

00:35:08.560 includes the right for it to divide itself into five additional states

00:35:11.940 without any approval from Congress? No, Texas isn't allowed to.

00:35:17.160 Anyway, my question for you today. First of all, I just wanted to make a comment.

00:35:22.260 Charlie obviously picked all of you for a reason. You formed amazing friendships,

00:35:27.500 business relationships and you're all godly men with families and this is what

00:35:34.280 needs to go forward you have made being masculine really important and for our

00:35:40.400 boys that is that's what makes society what it should be my question first of

00:35:47.480 all I am a Republican women's president of an organization of over 100 part of

00:35:53.940 66,000 women 0.77

00:35:56.300 nationally that are part of the

00:35:58.060 National Federation.

00:35:59.980 We are looking, and

00:36:02.040 this isn't just my club, we

00:36:04.060 want to know who is going to be the voice

00:36:06.080 of young women or the face of

00:36:08.080 young women coming forward.

00:36:09.920 And who do you think? You're looking at him right 0.97

00:36:12.080 here. It's Blake Neff.

00:36:15.480 He's got

00:36:16.120 the hair for it, really.

00:36:18.740 He's been doing push-ups all

00:36:20.120 week. I mean, this is

00:36:21.480 this is piggybacking on the commentary that was just made a lot of a lot of us recognize that

00:36:27.540 charlie kirk came and he brought the young men into the fold right erica kirk is here to bring

00:36:33.420 the young women over over the outside and and this is this is important because we love we love our

00:36:40.000 women at the national federation for republican women you do incredible work but what we've

00:36:45.240 noticed at turning point is when you start to change the dialogue with young people it impacts

00:36:50.720 upwards so and this happens a lot like I see myself now I've got a teenager and when he's

00:36:57.160 doing stuff I start going oh that's cool now I guess I have to change what I listen to what I

00:37:03.080 how I talk and things like that Tyler's obsessed with being cool you start to you start to follow 0.61

00:37:08.280 what younger people do kind of abnormally because it's trendy and it's cool and that's what we see

00:37:13.040 on TV and that's what's interesting and in media the conservative movement has struggled for many

00:37:19.220 many years prior to Turning Point coming around because there just wasn't as much of a youth

00:37:24.420 focus. What I love about this is we've got people of all ages that are here, but like this is a cool

00:37:30.640 party where people are feeling like the conservative movement's alive and well and maybe a little bit

00:37:35.760 cooler than it was 10 years ago. And that's really important for young men, but that's also really,

00:37:41.680 really critical for young women that feel sometimes excluded in the conservative movement because

00:37:46.380 things just don't feel cool and when you look at erica kirk she's a great example of everything

00:37:51.720 that's cool being a mom you know standing up and and being bold still on conservative principles

00:37:57.240 you know being able to wear a dress not having to walk around in a pantsuit like the left does

00:38:01.800 that's no hate on pantsuits if you're wearing one you know don't start

00:38:06.220 yeah erica wore a pantsuit it was a glittery pantsuit it was a lot it was a very glittery 1.00

00:38:14.660 fancy no but to tyler's point for the first time in america fest history there are more women at

00:38:22.480 this event than men do you know that ladies and that's not that's nothing that men that's just

00:38:29.260 saying the erica kirk effect is real and young women and women in general are listening to the

00:38:35.540 no because every conservative event has always been like there's like it's it's a really bad

00:38:40.320 ratio for girls and they don't show up now there's actually more girls here than guys that's uh you

00:38:46.020 know there's no reason to be single go find your go find your life partner ladies blake is eligible

00:38:52.240 no it's it's true though there's there have been there have been a lot of turning point

00:38:58.800 couples and turning point marriages and we're even getting to the era where we're seeing like

00:39:04.760 turning point babies that have come about from those couples who's got a baby in the crowd lift

00:39:09.500 it up we have any babies any kids any parents brought their kids here i see a couple a couple

00:39:13.620 hands right back there there's one there there's there's oh there she is there she is hey

00:39:18.400 god merry christmas on the bottom look we're raising them right folks we're raising them

00:39:24.380 right charlie would have loved this charlie and charlie does love this because he's looking down

00:39:29.720 he's seeing it he's seeing the baby boom he's seeing it happening that's what it's all about

00:39:33.980 So you asked about young men, and I'll close on this topic with this, is that I gave a speech recently in New York City where Zora Mandami is about to become the mayor in two weeks. 0.98

00:39:45.500 I know, right?

00:39:46.800 And I said, you know what struck me, though, is that Zora Mandami and Charlie Kirk are almost the same age, actually.

00:39:54.080 He's 34, and Charlie would have been 32 right now.

00:39:58.260 And you look at the lives they've led, and they're completely different. 0.97

00:40:01.860 one is a whiny angry parasitic just nut job who thinks that you should tear people down 0.97

00:40:12.520 and tear systems down take from others and give to yourself kind of guy and that's the system that 0.98

00:40:19.020 he's offering to young men and he's a bad rapper and he's a very bad rapper but charlie never

00:40:24.400 rapped but if he did he would have been amazing i don't know candace did have that one video of

00:40:28.520 charlie rapping i'm just saying i'm just saying and and you look at what charlie offered you look

00:40:36.880 at what charlie offered to young men young men if you want to find an erica then you've got to be a

00:40:44.300 charlie and to young women if you want to find a charlie you got to be an erica all right and

00:40:50.220 that's the examples that we should be using to push forward to say you don't have to be bitter

00:40:55.380 and angry and go through life and by the way young white men in this country do have a lot

00:41:02.320 of reason to be upset because the entire system is against them and we are going to be fighting

00:41:07.660 that tooth and nail but i promise you there is a system that shows you a way forward that you can

00:41:13.520 get married you can have kids you put god at the center and you don't need the lies of marxism

00:41:19.180 that are pushed by the likes of Zora Mandami.

00:41:21.960 Thank you.

00:41:24.320 Keep it up.

00:41:27.060 Yes, sir.

00:41:28.420 Good afternoon. My name is Dave Guayti.

00:41:29.880 I'm an active sworn police officer right here in Arizona.

00:41:33.820 Give it up for our law enforcement.

00:41:36.580 Thank you. Thank you.

00:41:39.900 We love our police.

00:41:41.360 Thank you. I know you do, Tyler. I know you do.

00:41:43.600 More importantly, I'm a Christian.

00:41:45.160 I'm also an unabashed conservative.

00:41:49.180 And I tell you, a lot of sworn police officers won't talk politics.

00:41:53.120 I will because the left has attempted to systematically destroy law enforcement in this country.

00:41:59.820 So if you're a cop, you've got to get off of the couch.

00:42:02.180 You've got to get plugged in.

00:42:04.460 Jack, I want to thank you for continuing to shine light on the Derek Chauvin debacle

00:42:11.160 and what happened to him from day one.

00:42:13.580 You called it out.

00:42:14.500 You said this is going to be a sham trial, and we're starting to find out as the facts come out more and more you were correct.

00:42:22.260 You've got leftist politicians collaborating with Minneapolis politicians to throw police under the bus.

00:42:30.640 You know, you hear the narrative, the knee on the neck.

00:42:33.060 We're finding out that their own witness has confirmed the knee wasn't even on the neck.

00:42:37.040 It was on the shoulder.

00:42:37.840 So, Jack, my question to you is, you know, based on your analysis, what are the next steps?

00:42:43.460 What can we do to continue to focus on that situation?

00:42:49.120 I thank you for saying that.

00:42:50.740 Ladies and gentlemen, can we give it up for Derek Chauvin, who is a political prisoner in this country right now?

00:42:58.200 We've come a long way.

00:42:59.620 We've come a long way from learning that just because the media tells us something about a shocking video does not mean that it's true.

00:43:07.960 And that's what Charlie always stood on.

00:43:09.540 He stood on business.

00:43:10.680 He stood on truth.

00:43:11.540 And he said, we must have discernment.

00:43:13.460 We must have discernment and not accept what the media sends us because we know and we've learned now it's all lies.

00:43:21.120 Now, the Minneapolis police, she's exactly right.

00:43:26.500 When they came out, the training officer, right, she lied on the stand and said that it was not an approved tactic that she had trained.

00:43:33.840 They pulled out the manual and they said the tactic was in there.

00:43:37.340 But then what happened?

00:43:38.140 The judge didn't even allow that manual to be shown to the jury in Derek Chauvin's trial.

00:43:44.220 That is a sham.

00:43:45.560 That is not justice.

00:43:47.000 What was done there was a miscarriage of justice.

00:43:49.660 I believe that Derek Chauvin was wrongfully convicted.

00:43:52.980 And there's now, and it's not just me, there's now over 50 current and former Minneapolis police officers that have come forward and stated that that was an approved hold by the Minneapolis Police Department.

00:44:04.740 They all lied because they wanted to use Derek Chauvin as a scapegoat for the fact that the officials of Minnesota,

00:44:12.980 like Jacob Fry and Governor Tim Walz and Attorney General, what's his name?

00:44:18.520 Keith Ellison.

00:44:18.780 Keith Ellison, yeah, with his Antifa book, that Keith Ellison allowed the entire city of Minneapolis to burn down on their watch.

00:44:27.640 And we are not going to drop this case.

00:44:30.240 We are going to fight for justice for Derek Chauvin.

00:44:32.380 hey they they robbed they robbed the cheesecake factory they they bombed the cheesecake factory

00:44:38.180 yeah seriously they burned down the third precinct so to answer to your question a lot of people have

00:44:43.400 said does Derek Chauvin deserve a federal pardon now does he deserve one yes however I want to

00:44:51.180 pause on that because I've spoken to some people that know the legal team there and they said

00:44:55.920 they're not actually asking for a pardon right now and here's why because he's in federal prison

00:45:01.040 right now. And they're worried that

00:45:03.060 if they put him back in the state prison where he was

00:45:04.940 before, that they're going to kill 1.00

00:45:06.980 him. That that's going to be a death sentence. 1.00

00:45:15.360 So she's saying that Minnesota

00:45:17.140 will treat him worse than the federal

00:45:18.900 prison, and that's exactly what I was

00:45:21.080 hearing as well from Alpha News

00:45:22.860 and some of the people that have been working on the story directly.

00:45:25.500 And shout out to Alpha News, by

00:45:27.000 the way, the incredible Liz Collin. 1.00

00:45:29.180 Just go follow her. She's amazing. 1.00

00:45:31.040 documentaries books on this all the breaking news it's all her that's i don't know anything

00:45:35.440 she's the one who just tells me but so i think the current fight right now is that we have to

00:45:40.180 point out that that trial was a miscarriage of justice that and essentially get that declared

00:45:45.600 null and void derek chauvin deserves a new trial it deserves a new trial briefly two more things

00:45:51.920 my wife is in attendance carrie she's a huge fan jack and give a shout out to my my wife carrie

00:45:56.860 and uh and also can i can i promote our local uh law enforcement twitter account is that okay all

00:46:02.800 right hey back to blue we love our cops merry christmas guys merry christmas carrie thank you

00:46:07.620 great question well glendall fop 12 thank you guys and everybody everybody that's here needs

00:46:12.560 to hear this right now if you have family members just like david here we need every

00:46:18.760 police officer to step up and be a vocal conservative they should a lot of these guys

00:46:25.580 serve in in deep blue territory and so they feel like they can't talk we as citizens have to support

00:46:32.540 our police so vocally so they can get involved and say you know enough is enough we can't have

00:46:37.540 insane leftist politics enter all of these suburban cities yeah and if there's a war on police then

00:46:43.460 what's going to happen then you're going to have police officers that don't want to go into those

00:46:48.140 dangerous situations when 9-1-1 is called so when i say i support derek chauvin that's not just

00:46:53.440 because of Derek Chauvin as a person that's because that's that is supporting me and my

00:46:58.480 family so that we're ever in trouble and we need to call a police officer that they know that

00:47:03.720 they're walking into a situation where the society where the laws where the people have their back

00:47:08.660 well and Jack suburban cities right now are getting assaulted with George Soros money

00:47:14.980 to try to replace mayors and city council members who are defunding police across the country

00:47:21.860 This is happening in every suburban city that you think is Republican.

00:47:27.020 Most of your cities that you live in, who here lives in a suburban area?

00:47:31.660 Raise your hand.

00:47:33.060 Who here is in a rural area?

00:47:37.300 The rural and suburban areas across America that have higher per capita,

00:47:43.620 that are increasing, you have homes being built,

00:47:46.540 they're already targeting you, trying to take out your city council members, 0.65

00:47:49.980 replace them with squishy-looking, rhino-looking, real Democrats that are acting like, that are

00:47:56.640 claiming to be Republicans, and their whole goal is to defund the police. You got to stop it. You

00:48:02.600 got to knock, you got to get them out. This is why with Turning Point Action, we talk about this in

00:48:06.040 swing states, particularly places like here in Arizona. You have to know who your city council

00:48:10.780 members are. You have to hold these people accountable and yank them out of office if

00:48:14.960 they're not number one priority is is defending you and and defending your home and that's why

00:48:20.840 you got to get active folks just like charlie wanted you got to get active be the mayor of

00:48:25.200 your territory sir hi i'm sean white i'm a part of the turning point executive board at james

00:48:31.520 madison university i know i've got some other executive members spread out here somewhere

00:48:35.860 congrats love the drip by the way he's got a christ is king he's got a jesus one i love it i

00:48:41.380 love it. So I know a lot of my friends and a lot of Christians have differing viewpoints on the

00:48:48.660 death penalty. So why should I as a Christian support and how do we justify the death penalty

00:48:54.800 and the taking of a human life? Can you repeat? I'm old. I think it's a valid debate and I think 0.96

00:49:03.780 a lot of us have gone back and forth. I know Charlie went back and forth on it. I've gone

00:49:07.180 back and forth on it myself and it's understandable as christians we are supposed to embrace mercy we

00:49:14.000 are supposed to forgive those who persecute us and the death penalty seems greatly in tension

00:49:19.660 with that but it also says in the bible that you know those who hold power they wield the sword

00:49:26.060 for a purpose and they should wield it justly when when jesus meets with the roman soldiers

00:49:32.300 and he tells them what to do he doesn't say don't enforce the law don't kill people he says don't

00:49:39.240 oppress people don't extort them be content with your wages and what we have to recognize is that

00:49:45.460 there is a difference that when the state when the government enforces its laws it is not acting as

00:49:51.340 an individual seeking vengeance it is not acting it is not enacting revenge it is enacting justice

00:49:58.300 in the place of a king, essentially.

00:50:03.500 And one aspect of justice may actually have to be

00:50:07.320 to use lethal force on someone

00:50:09.920 who is a sufficiently deadly or destructive cancer on a society.

00:50:15.500 And I think we can recognize that

00:50:17.720 in the case we're all thinking about right now,

00:50:20.120 that if we have something like political assassinations in our country,

00:50:24.500 people who would destroy our country

00:50:26.840 by destroying people they disagree with,

00:50:29.280 it's completely fair for the government to look at that and say,

00:50:31.740 that act is so heinous, so unacceptable,

00:50:35.560 that anyone who commits it will be torn out of our society,

00:50:40.120 like the cancer that they are, before they infect the rest of it,

00:50:43.300 before they destroy our society.

00:50:45.520 And I think that's a completely just take

00:50:48.920 on the most heinous crimes in our society.

00:50:51.940 It is, and Charlie himself famously, I'll paraphrase it,

00:50:55.360 But Charlie said, and I post this every once in a while, that the death penalty isn't pro-death.

00:51:02.980 It's actually pro-life because it values the life of the victim.

00:51:08.080 It values the life of the victim.

00:51:10.260 And it shows that that person's life had value.

00:51:13.420 It shows that society believes that that person's life had value.

00:51:17.420 And I personally believe that Charlie Kirk's life had value.

00:51:21.300 And I also believe that there is a debt that needs to be paid, not just for Charlie, but for Erica, for the children, for every single minute and moment that was torn and stolen from them their entire lives, who are not going to be having their dad home for this Christmas or any Christmas ever again.

00:51:43.720 and to Blake's point as well, when you commit a political assassination and kill someone who is

00:51:49.700 in the conduct of participating in free speech and free political dialogue, the bedrock of our

00:51:56.100 society, then you have attacked our society itself. And as a society, we have a governmental

00:52:02.900 administrative duty to correct that cancer and tear it out. Jack, did you know this?

00:52:08.380 there are millions and millions of dollars spent every year of liberal lunatic organizations

00:52:17.320 trying to to eradicate the death penalty well yes i do tyler it's insane so the question you

00:52:24.240 have to ask yourself why are there tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of dollars

00:52:29.260 being spent worldwide to try to promote the elimination or eradication of the death penalty

00:52:37.100 The quick answer is that the left wins when they know chaos can ensue

00:52:43.980 when the death penalty no longer exists.

00:52:46.620 Just like what's said by Blake, just like what's up to here by Jack,

00:52:51.940 if we allow the most heinous crime to occur in this country

00:52:56.720 with absolutely no penalty up until death,

00:53:01.720 the left wins and they will sow chaos across the state.

00:53:04.520 So now you look at this and you go, and I think about this, why would anybody insert themselves to try to eliminate the possibility of the death penalty in any circumstance where you have that heinous crime?

00:53:19.640 It's just a really interesting thing to look at in the future because I think this country is going to be under assault, particularly in the next few years here, where they're going to try to block that from happening.

00:53:31.220 We're going to see that because that's a muscle that the left is trying to flex to sow more division and chaos across America.

00:53:39.500 Yeah, and I'll just add, at the memorial, you obviously saw Erica portrayed as a forgiving saint, which is what you see in Romans 12, where God says, vengeance is mine, says the Lord.

00:53:53.320 but then in Romans 13 after Erica got off stage and Trump came on stage you saw Trump playing

00:54:00.820 out Romans 13 which is I will appoint ministers of justice and so it's really hard and even Charlie

00:54:08.680 kind of went back and forth on it I've gone back and forth on it um takes a lot of strength to be

00:54:15.920 Erica, but I mean, I'd like to see a certain person dead with the death penalty. I'll say that. 0.96

00:54:25.400 But it's, you know, it's an important difference, actually. I think if you look at traditional

00:54:29.700 Sharia countries, for example, they'll actually, what punishment you want is placed on the victim

00:54:36.960 or the family of the victim, and they have that choice. And I think it's actually an important 0.99

00:54:41.360 difference that in christian society we do not foist that burden onto the victims of an offense

00:54:48.160 where you force them to have to choose between you know mercy and justice that is why we have

00:54:54.740 the state wielding the power that it does we should not ask erica kirk to decide what the

00:54:59.680 penalty of her husband's assassin is that is not just to her and it's not just to our society

00:55:04.820 it is the role of the sovereign

00:55:06.700 the government, the state

00:55:08.780 to enact justice

00:55:10.740 on behalf of the people

00:55:12.060 I think that's right

00:55:13.140 and the determination

00:55:14.660 if this is biblically

00:55:18.920 ordered, wield the

00:55:21.020 sword, but wield it justly

00:55:23.040 wield it justly

00:55:24.820 thanks man

00:55:26.380 good question

00:55:28.320 and guys

00:55:30.400 I'm just going to say a shout out because they're not going to say it

00:55:33.200 But Blake and Mikey were there, all right?

00:55:37.140 You see the tent is right over here.

00:55:39.260 That's the tent.

00:55:40.100 That is not like some facsimile or, you know, set up kind of thing.

00:55:45.080 That is the tent.

00:55:46.760 And you might want to put some stanchions around that, by the way.

00:55:51.300 But that's the actual tent right there.

00:55:53.940 And Blake and Mikey, they're sitting here.

00:55:55.660 They're talking about this.

00:55:56.880 They've been soldiering on.

00:55:58.020 But they didn't watch this on video.

00:56:01.420 They were there.

00:56:03.200 standing feet away, steps away, and they've still been here at work, fighting hard, fighting for

00:56:10.200 the mission every single day, so I just wanted to raise them up for a second.

00:56:14.300 Because they've been phenomenal.

00:56:22.100 Although the conspiracy theorists today will comment on your trans shirt, so.

00:56:26.440 It's a nice shirt.

00:56:28.460 sir um all right my name is james shirley i serve with second battalion fifth marines

00:56:36.580 is there any more marines in the house right so i have sort of a simple question and charlie

00:56:43.960 was all about solutions so i have a solution to to pitch um how can we really be truly america first

00:56:50.400 if we're not putting our veterans first our children need real role models to look up to

00:56:55.620 and we don't need any more instances like happened at that Mormon temple.

00:57:01.300 That IREC veteran could have been reached.

00:57:04.420 So the solution that I'm proposing is a coalition between recruiters,

00:57:09.900 Student America, Club America, Turning Point,

00:57:14.140 and hold those recruiters, hold colleges accountable that target veterans

00:57:18.580 and sell them a lie for a degree that will get them nothing.

00:57:22.740 I work for Boeing currently. I'm not proud of it. I'm also not proud to be a WSU graduate and alumni

00:57:29.700 because that college wasted the majority of my GI bill on a degree that got me nothing but 20 cents

00:57:36.080 dollar more an hour. If we can't reach every veteran through Christ, we can at least save

00:57:41.880 them from themselves. Yeah, well, I mean, as I think the only veteran up here, you know, I'll

00:57:48.040 just say um tyler what do you think turning point veterans coalition we've talked about for a long

00:57:53.400 time i brought it up before tyler i have brought this up i'll tell you this our veterans are being

00:58:00.760 taken advantage of left and right uh you know starting with the government because they we

00:58:07.900 just do not do enough and it's a it's a it's a back and forth teeter-totter between republicans

00:58:12.980 and Democrats not getting things done, not taking care of the hospital system, not making sure that

00:58:19.260 they get the health care that they need to start with. That's without question. But I think here,

00:58:25.520 I mean, we love our veterans here, right? Thank you. We got to talk a lot more about it because

00:58:35.000 the first thing, this is why I love the president's agenda and this is why it's so important and we

00:58:40.540 got to talk about this more often was putting veterans first was at the forefront of this last

00:58:45.520 election because unfortunately if we had not won this last election right now we would be at war

00:58:52.480 it's like without without question we would be you know i i speak a little bit of russian

00:58:58.600 i would already be gone i would be i'd be a goner for sure like they would they would have

00:59:02.780 thrown me up at the front of the line trust me republican you know all that they would have

00:59:07.320 throwing us the front line they this is this is where we have to especially as a movement that

00:59:13.500 is driven by young men at this point we have a lot of young men that came to their senses this

00:59:18.440 last election we have to not abandon our military because we're ants we're not supporting crazy

00:59:26.940 leftist war games that are out there and so there is a happy medium that's there to talk about and

00:59:33.380 Jack can talk about this at length.

00:59:35.640 There needs to be an advocate there that's protecting us from trauma that's unnecessary.

00:59:39.960 We have to protect.

00:59:41.080 We have to.

00:59:41.580 I totally agree with President Trump.

00:59:43.080 We have to make our military as strong as possible,

00:59:45.840 which means that we have to make those that fight for us as strong as possible.

00:59:49.380 Amen.

00:59:49.720 Strength through peace.

00:59:50.900 And then strength through peace and not get into battles that we don't need to be in.

00:59:54.460 What do you think, folks?

00:59:56.000 Turning Point Veterans.

00:59:57.180 Should we start it up?

00:59:59.140 I love it.

01:00:02.120 I love it.

01:00:02.620 And by the way, a key part of that, a key part of that, I would add, and I'll just, I would just add is that, Tyler, what Turning Point veterans could also do, you mentioned about helping them get into schools, and obviously, and when there's issues with the schools, but also helping veterans make the transition from the military to the private sector, because we should not have a single unemployed veteran or homeless veteran in this country.

01:00:28.880 and I'm sick to death of us spending so much money on illegal aliens

01:00:33.120 when there are veterans who need it first.

01:00:36.480 And if I could caveat that,

01:00:39.820 we don't need students deciding they're called to serve

01:00:42.880 and going to serve and having no plan for the rest of their life.

01:00:45.840 They need to be God-centered.

01:00:47.640 Well, and I'll tell you what,

01:00:49.200 I would love to hire every veteran in this room to help us chase ballots.

01:00:53.520 You come out of the military,

01:00:55.140 you go straight into the front lines of protecting this country,

01:00:57.740 that's going to also help cyclically develop that so that's a good point a part of this is

01:01:03.200 turning point action has leaned in on the veteran element a little bit we need to do a lot more but

01:01:09.560 a little bit in key target i'm here for it i'm ready to go table like our swing state we got

01:01:13.580 to win we have to win and keep this country in good shape so we can protect ourselves and protect

01:01:18.940 our veterans i had a co-worker at work tell me that what i wanted to do is potentially more

01:01:22.760 dangerous than what charlie was doing and i just looked at him i said that's the point

01:01:25.380 thank you so much great question

01:01:27.600 God bless our veterans

01:01:29.660 thank you for your service

01:01:30.560 Merry Christmas

01:01:31.880 by the way

01:01:36.640 I don't know if you guys know this but

01:01:39.340 you guys are going to see the 48th president

01:01:41.560 in the state 48 here pretty quick

01:01:43.340 wait wait wait

01:01:47.340 Tyler wait Mark Kelly's coming

01:01:49.240 no

01:01:49.740 AOC's going to be here

01:01:53.600 AOC's going to be here

01:01:55.200 No, Mark Kelly's such a wuss, he wouldn't show up here and debate Jack.

01:01:58.820 No, I told him because he got all mad at me because I was the one who broke the story 0.91

01:02:03.100 that it turns out that his little seditious six rant was actually a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

01:02:11.840 And because he's getting a military pension, his investigation has now been raised to the command level of the entire Department of War.

01:02:19.580 So he's freaking out.

01:02:20.920 He said, oh, no.

01:02:22.440 Oh, no.

01:02:23.180 And I said, Mark Kelly, Mark Kelly, fine.

01:02:25.760 If you want to be a man, you want to be a man, you can go to outer space.

01:02:29.100 Well, if you can go to outer space, then you can come face me here in Phoenix, Arizona at AmFest.

01:02:36.140 So, Mark Kelly, I'm going to be here all weekend, man.

01:02:38.120 I'm calling you out.

01:02:39.460 We put him on stage, right?

01:02:43.920 Who would like to see Mark Kelly debate Jack?

01:02:48.820 Let's go.

01:02:49.680 We need to get louder. 0.98

01:02:51.420 Louder.

01:02:51.740 Who would like to see Mark Kelly debate Jack?

01:02:56.400 That's not loud enough. 1.00

01:02:56.900 He's not going to like it when I bring up all the money he's made from those Chinese spy balloons. 0.94

01:03:02.460 Oh, he's not going to like that.

01:03:04.340 You know why Mark Kelly can't hear you right now?

01:03:06.120 Because he's actually from Houston, Texas.

01:03:07.880 He's not here in the state of Arizona.

01:03:09.700 He can't hear you outside these doors.

01:03:11.020 All right.

01:03:11.180 Let's go to a request.

01:03:12.220 Hello, everyone.

01:03:13.300 My name is Robert Albatel.

01:03:15.720 My name is Robert Albatel, and I come as the sole representative of the Turning Point chapter at the University of South Carolina.

01:03:21.740 All right. All right, Gamecocks. Yeah. So a bit of context before I ask my question. My parents immigrated here legally from an Eastern European country known as Romania. And it was part of the Soviet Union, the Eastern Bloc. And they immigrated here for me and my sister to have a better life, right, as many people do.

01:03:49.300 and so I when they were growing up they had to deal with because it was a socialist country

01:03:57.500 they had you know bread lines that were only open certain hours and you had like tickets it was

01:04:05.880 essentially rationed you had uh if you even had a car you would only be able to drive on certain

01:04:12.340 days based on which group you had you know um my mom who watches your show every day and her sister

01:04:21.420 my aunt considered cocoa powder to be like a luxury item equivalent to gold meanwhile the

01:04:28.000 president nicolai ceausescu at the time who was arguably worse than joseph stalin uh was having

01:04:33.800 the heaviest building in the world and the second heaviest building superseded only by buckingham

01:04:41.180 palace and had hundreds of

01:04:43.220 billions of dollars to be built

01:04:45.280 for him to live in.

01:04:47.200 When I look at that...

01:04:49.200 I've been in that building.

01:04:51.340 It's a great place to visit. I've been there

01:04:53.220 too.

01:04:55.560 Are we talking about Shaziski's

01:04:57.260 palace? Yeah, I got lost

01:04:59.360 in there once. It's a whole story.

01:05:01.680 This is Romania, by the way.

01:05:03.220 I got lost

01:05:05.280 in that place. Did you know they

01:05:06.440 eliminated half the city to build that thing? 0.98

01:05:09.400 They just ran over people's

01:05:11.060 Like, you know about this, right?

01:05:12.740 They just, like, got rid of, like, people's entire house.

01:05:14.820 Like, just, like, ran over villages to build that thing. 0.99

01:05:17.720 Communism sucks, folks. 1.00

01:05:18.720 It's really bad. 1.00

01:05:19.200 They just went out on the street and they're just like, oh, is this your house?

01:05:20.960 They, like, knocked on your house.

01:05:21.760 It's like, is this your house?

01:05:22.940 They, like, shot him on the spot, just, like, ran it over, and they built the palace on top of it.

01:05:26.380 Yeah, but then they did that to Shrushesco, too.

01:05:28.580 Communism's terrible.

01:05:30.020 Yeah, and we also had, like, a big manufacturing.

01:05:31.840 Anyways, you have a question.

01:05:33.120 Yeah.

01:05:34.060 So looking at that, and when I see Socialine being not only advocated for, but also enacted in places like New York with Zoran,

01:05:40.700 pay for me so I can give you free stuff, Mom Donnie.

01:05:43.240 You know, I look at that and I think,

01:05:45.000 oh my goodness, the American dream is under attack.

01:05:46.860 I might not be able to live through it

01:05:48.900 as someone who is Gen Z.

01:05:50.580 And so I got to ask, you know,

01:05:51.840 what can we do as a country to ensure that,

01:05:55.420 you know, the youngest generation of voters coming in now

01:05:57.780 will be able to experience owning a home,

01:06:00.300 having a family, and, you know,

01:06:02.440 experiencing the American dream?

01:06:05.280 Let's go with Mikey on this one.

01:06:07.140 Mikey, why is it that you're starting to see

01:06:10.060 this level of support for socialism, Marxism among Gen Z? Yeah, why do you support Zoran?

01:06:18.040 Explain yourself. Thank you. Why are you such a Zoran stan? Yeah, yeah. Well, there's radical

01:06:23.740 problems facing young people. We're in the same generation. We can't buy a house. We have

01:06:29.560 crippling student debt. We may not be able to afford a family one day or have kids or live out

01:06:35.020 the American dream that our parents lived out. So we're asking ourselves, what are we going to do

01:06:40.040 and so we're turning to Radical Solutions, which is Zoran Mamdani. And so Erica talked about this

01:06:46.920 in a great speech recently where she said, the government is replacing husbands for women.

01:06:53.700 And you saw that in New York where 80%, over 80% of women voters in New York City voted

01:06:59.860 in massive numbers for Zoran Mamdani. And so New York City is kind of like this

01:07:05.920 petri dish of what our entire nation is going to be facing here in the next decade, which is

01:07:12.340 rents out of control, not being able to afford a home, still paying off debt, credit card debt

01:07:18.200 like crazy for young people. And then young women not wanting to get married, young men not also

01:07:25.960 pushing off marriage until as far and late as they possibly can. And so you're turning to radical

01:07:31.400 solutions instead of turning to hard work. But at the same time, we talked about veterans.

01:07:37.220 Young people are, we want to help veterans, but young people at the same time, we're saying to

01:07:42.160 ourselves, we want to kind of turn our stance on foreign policy. And we have a very different

01:07:49.100 stance on foreign policy than what our older colleagues have. And we just are kind of sick

01:07:56.780 of sending foreign aid to countries that don't necessarily need it. Because from the time we

01:08:02.640 were born, there's been a conflict in the Middle East. From the time we were born, we've been

01:08:06.860 seeing wars that the U.S. has been involved in. And we don't want to see it anymore. And we want

01:08:11.900 to see opportunities for young people to even get a job, by the way. Young people can barely get 1.00

01:08:17.800 jobs. And we also want to see veterans being taken care of. But when we talked about America

01:08:23.820 first and America only versus America first and not just America only. This is something that

01:08:29.060 young people have a radical stance on because we're feeling it the most intimately. Like this

01:08:35.140 is, these are massive problems for us. But you want to know the reality? Zora Mamdani is actually

01:08:41.240 a really scary mofo. And, and the reason why is because a lot of young people see him like they 0.94

01:08:47.160 saw obama and and we even stopped said this because the night that the debate happened we did

01:08:53.020 we did an after debate uh thought crime uh episode and we talked about this who here watched

01:08:59.860 the debate the the mom donnie debate not that many go back and watch it i mean the guy is pretty

01:09:06.740 slick like he he talks he talks really he's a smooth talker and that's exactly what unfortunately

01:09:13.960 most of the people want, they want to be told stuff, even if it's not true. And the fact of

01:09:20.380 the matter is, is all commies are lying to you all the time. If there's a person that's lying

01:09:27.100 to you, and you can tell your best friend this the next time they lie to you, is they're most

01:09:32.340 likely a Marxist. That is how they're taught. I mean, this is basically what we're being taught

01:09:37.180 in school. At our public universities, people are being taught to be Alinskyites, that you're 0.92

01:09:43.280 supposed to be okay with the rules for radicals that these people are being taught and you're

01:09:49.020 supposed to just dumbly take it and bend over and take it and then be like oh but mom donnie

01:09:55.300 looks okay and he has a well-trimmed beard and i'm sure he's not the worst but you know and it's 0.84

01:10:00.440 because of trump you know member of the islam faith that i've ever met but the reality is this 0.58

01:10:04.880 is that the guy's a marxist and he doesn't care about you as an individual you know who cares

01:10:10.680 about you as an individual? The guys who wrote the Constitution of the United States of America.

01:10:16.880 That's individualism. And if we don't get serious about it, you're going to have smooth talking

01:10:22.500 mom Donnie's pop up in every single city and everyone's going to be like, holy crap, how did

01:10:27.980 this happen? Like overnight because they carbon copy and do this thing over and over again. So

01:10:33.480 this is why it's important. Every person here, you got to get involved politically. You can't

01:10:37.740 sit back and just be like, I'm going to let somebody else do it. You got to take out the

01:10:42.180 guys that, and this is how Charlie Kirk came to be. I don't know if you know this story, guys.

01:10:47.780 The story of Charlie Kirk is that the guys in Chicago felt so bad about not stopping Barack

01:10:55.180 Obama from rising up that Charlie Kirk was born and guys in Chicago all got together and they

01:11:01.180 supported a kid who was the most genius kid that had come around the block in 2012. That's the

01:11:07.420 story. And I'll tell you, I've talked to some of these guys that supported Charlie early.

01:11:14.640 There's a lot of them that are here. They feel really bad that they didn't stop Barack Obama

01:11:18.960 when they could have. He never should have been a state senator to a U.S. senator. You have to

01:11:24.840 defeat these people at the state legislature level. You have to defeat these people at the

01:11:29.060 city council. You cannot let these Marxists become your school board members.

01:11:33.220 if you do that you win if you stop them we win stop them early and by the way why Charlie was

01:11:44.300 so amazing to young people is he saw things in us that we didn't even see in ourselves

01:11:50.160 okay like Charlie hired me when I was 18 years old he saw students as as the opportunity to

01:11:58.080 America, not the problem to its future. And Marco Rubio said this at his memorial. He was like,

01:12:04.140 when I found out Charlie, I said, what are you doing? He said, going to college campuses,

01:12:07.420 talk about freedom and conservatism. He said, uh, that's a terrible idea. People thought he

01:12:12.080 was crazy, but look where we are today. And so Charlie's not here, right? But our movement is.

01:12:17.900 And so we have so many students. And so if you know a young person, tell them to get involved

01:12:23.220 with a turning point chapter or to start a turning point chapter, because we need to carry

01:12:27.520 this torch, we need to carry this legacy

01:12:29.460 and unfortunately

01:12:31.460 the pull yourself up by the bootstraps

01:12:33.880 analogy doesn't really work anymore for 1.00

01:12:35.600 young people and we need to just make it

01:12:37.540 ourselves. Yeah, alright, thank you guys

01:12:39.740 Give it up for Mikey McCoy, folks

01:12:43.780 and also for another guest

01:12:47.540 Andrew Colvette is in the house

01:12:49.960 Producer Andrew is

01:12:51.840 here. Where you been, Andrew?

01:12:53.480 What's up, Andrew?

01:12:54.680 What were you doing?

01:12:55.980 Guys, do we not have a fourth mic?

01:12:58.920 I don't know what's going on here.

01:13:00.900 But, no, Andrew.

01:13:02.440 Andrew, what have you been doing?

01:13:04.080 Where were you?

01:13:05.520 Literally, we started like an hour ago, and you're late.

01:13:08.640 Explain yourself.

01:13:10.140 It's that whole thing where Arizona doesn't change time.

01:13:12.620 I got my time zones mixed up again.

01:13:14.640 Time zones are undefeated.

01:13:15.960 There's a lot of people here.

01:13:17.080 Jeez Louise.

01:13:18.420 You guys stayed around for these guys?

01:13:21.020 All right, let's go to the question.

01:13:22.120 My name is Jude Kohut, and my question is, why does the world want me to believe in the tooth fairy if they don't believe in Jesus Christ?

01:13:40.680 I'll answer. I'll answer. It's very quickly. It's very simple.

01:13:43.320 because they won't believe in the tooth fairy

01:13:46.720 and they'll tell you the tooth fairy is not real

01:13:48.880 because the tooth fairy only offers them money

01:13:52.320 but Jesus Christ will offer eternal life in heaven

01:13:56.460 for those who believe in him

01:13:58.300 and that is something that terrifies people who refuse him.

01:14:02.960 Terrifies them.

01:14:04.260 Thank you.

01:14:05.160 Thank you.

01:14:05.860 Merry Christmas.

01:14:06.240 You got a great kid.

01:14:07.220 Merry Christmas, kid.

01:14:08.860 Keep it up.

01:14:09.620 He just came up here and mocked everybody

01:14:11.460 by asking the best question we've had the entire time.

01:14:15.600 Hey, what's your name?

01:14:16.500 What's that kid's name?

01:14:19.080 What's your name?

01:14:20.140 What's his name?

01:14:21.780 June?

01:14:23.540 Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude, Jude.

01:14:29.880 I love your song, man.

01:14:31.140 I crowd surf that kid across.

01:14:32.360 Great Beatles song.

01:14:33.200 Jude's going places.

01:14:34.960 Yes, please.

01:14:35.960 Hi, my name is Eva.

01:14:36.560 Crowd surf him all the way to Patriot Mobile.

01:14:37.860 Also from Washington State, as a couple of the other questions were.

01:14:41.460 Washington State here. I know, I'm surprised, pleasantly surprised. Wait, who here is from

01:14:45.160 Washington State? Wow. I did go to the University of Washington, so go, go Dawgs.

01:14:52.460 Go Dawgs. No, no, no. Oh, you're from the blue side? No, I'm from the, yeah, I'm from the blue

01:14:59.980 side. I'm from like a little bit south of Seattle, so it's rough there a little bit, but

01:15:04.080 my question is, so I'm 28 years old. I'm kind of in that stage of life where like you're done with

01:15:09.580 school. I have my degree. I started a career in graphic design. I work for my church. Um, and

01:15:15.880 with Charlie Kirk's passing, it just kind of hit something with me. Like I want to be doing more.

01:15:20.780 Um, obviously like not in this stage of life where I'm married, having kids. And I go through this

01:15:25.540 thought pattern of like, what would be the most effective way to use my time? Um, obviously like

01:15:31.040 you'd think working for a church, I feel like I'm like doing something for the Lord. Um, but I just

01:15:36.400 like I want to reach people and so my thoughts like do I stand on a corner and like preach the

01:15:41.020 gospel do I like try to get hired at turning point do I like you know I just I guess I'm just asking

01:15:47.180 like what what in your advice would be like the most effective use of time for a young adult who's

01:15:51.900 in a stage in between school and family well I'll tell you from an activism standpoint you've got

01:15:59.780 two things that you can do that we provide at turning point that are really helpful on the

01:16:04.860 faith side. So TPUSA Faith, if your church is involved in all of that, that's great. I highly

01:16:10.500 recommend it if that's your line, right? If that doesn't fit for you for whatever reason,

01:16:16.440 at Turning Point Action, we can use your help a few hours a month, a few hours, really a year

01:16:21.980 to get involved. You're busy. You're starting a life. You've got work. You've got kids. You've

01:16:26.920 got family. You've got whatever that you're starting. It's really hard. If everybody just

01:16:31.720 just donated, you know, somewhere in the realm of two to three hours a month just to get involved

01:16:39.440 politically, you can do that. You can do that at tpaction.com. Here in Arizona, like you're in

01:16:44.540 Washington, you could come down here next year when we have our midterms. Your help in specific

01:16:50.920 places for midterms is going to be really important. We had thousands and thousands of

01:16:55.920 people come to Arizona last year for the election. Who here came as part of our ballot chasing?

01:17:00.160 did anyone here do any ballot chasers here anyone that came down to arizona or volunteered from

01:17:05.800 where you're at i see them they're there we have any wait wait do we have any future ballot chasers

01:17:11.880 here yeah who's gonna come that's everybody that's everybody but like so you can plan that ahead

01:17:17.260 right if like next october come down to arizona help us win the governor's election here where

01:17:22.140 you might not have that opportunity in washington or somewhere else right so that's how the left

01:17:27.080 works and they operate and get people involved, but you can contribute back and feel like you're

01:17:31.780 involved with this bigger, you know, I mean, you can get this feeling, you know, every election

01:17:36.480 of being around good people that you agree with. That's, that, that is the correct political answer.

01:17:41.840 But on a personal side, I'll just say this, be a rebel, start a family. You will find no greater

01:17:50.700 joy in life than getting married, having children and bringing kids into the world.

01:17:56.280 there is nothing better no speech I've ever given no event I've ever been to nothing compares to

01:18:03.080 just being with your kids and having them and raising them in every minute of it truly

01:18:07.240 yeah amen to that what uh how old are you did you say 28 okay so yeah and you said your career is

01:18:16.460 graphic design and you're busy with that yeah I mean well to be honest I actually just put in my

01:18:21.920 two weeks because of that feeling of like i need to close the door on this and just open myself up

01:18:26.740 for what else god has for me so i'm really in a place of just like wait wait you did you just

01:18:31.020 put in your two weeks i did do you want to be a graphic designer for turning point oh there you

01:18:35.700 go and i'm pretty sure we have we i mean we you haven't been to our office you have to move to

01:18:43.660 arizona and be a graphic designer but we'll we'll take you and i will say charlie was very proud of

01:18:48.980 how many marriages and babies

01:18:50.880 had come out of the extended

01:18:52.520 Turning Point family.

01:18:53.960 So maybe you could kill two birds with one stuff.

01:18:57.620 Come to Arizona.

01:18:58.780 Alright, thank you so much.

01:18:59.820 Blake's also single.

01:19:00.880 Next question.

01:19:02.540 This guy. 1.00

01:19:04.680 Don't worry about the trans shirt.

01:19:06.920 It's okay.

01:19:09.180 Thank you.

01:19:10.080 Thank you.

01:19:10.700 Next question.

01:19:14.460 This will be the last question.

01:19:15.940 Hey, if we're serious about that,

01:19:18.980 If you go to the Turning Point Action booth, say, hey, guys, over at the Turning Point Action booth, we're sending a graphic designer.

01:19:26.040 So just, hey, give them your info.

01:19:30.940 We're going to hire you.

01:19:32.940 All right.

01:19:34.160 What's your question?

01:19:35.560 Hi.

01:19:35.900 My name is Christy.

01:19:36.880 First, I want to thank all the people behind me who allowed me to come up to ask this question.

01:19:41.980 I am a first-generation, stateside-born Puerto Rican.

01:19:45.620 I was very proud to hear the gratitude to the Latino community for getting Trump in. 0.98

01:19:52.680 However, my heart grieves for the disconnect found within the black and brown Christian conservative churches and communities. 0.99

01:20:01.760 As our country continues to grow with greater black and brown Christian people who do like to have big families and are very family oriented, 1.00

01:20:11.420 I believe that there is a significant harvest. 0.99

01:20:14.060 I was excited to find the turning point USA rise table, but from what I see, I'm wondering

01:20:20.980 if there's more that can be done to reach these Christian conservative communities because

01:20:26.920 there is such a political disconnect between being conservative politically and their religion

01:20:35.580 and being a Christian.

01:20:37.580 So I guess two things.

01:20:39.500 I want to encourage for there to be more for the Christian, brown, and black communities.

01:20:45.200 And I didn't know if you guys had anything off your cuff that's in the works right now to reach those families and that young population.

01:20:56.540 So are you saying that you see an opportunity?

01:20:59.320 It's hard to hear up here.

01:21:00.380 You're saying there's an opportunity that you see with black and brown Christian community to reach them more, to become, to vote conservative?

01:21:09.460 Is that?

01:21:10.100 Yeah, to vote.

01:21:10.880 Correct.

01:21:11.200 Politically, they're not conservative.

01:21:12.880 Politically, they are so liberal and they don't see.

01:21:16.380 Yeah, you're right.

01:21:17.020 They're socially conservative and politically liberal.

01:21:20.220 Correct.

01:21:20.340 It's very strange.

01:21:21.560 What can we do?

01:21:22.640 Yeah, it's a total disconnect.

01:21:23.800 I mean, that's why we have Rise, right?

01:21:25.840 I found that.

01:21:26.320 That's growing.

01:21:27.220 Leaps and bounds.

01:21:27.980 We have people in chapters in all 50 states, and they're at all the HBCUs.

01:21:32.540 They're in Hispanic communities.

01:21:34.440 So it's a growing part of our organization, a growing part of our focus.

01:21:39.100 Absolutely.

01:21:39.900 We're pouring more resources into that.

01:21:42.040 I would just say that, you know, we're seeing gains there, especially with young.

01:21:47.080 I would say the divide is about, like, 40, 45 years old, 50 years old of African-American men,

01:21:52.940 Hispanic men that are not as linked to kind of the civil rights era of the past and they're way

01:21:58.880 more open to conservative ideas. Donald Trump has totally opened the door honestly for conservatism

01:22:05.160 with those communities because he just comes at it from such a brash new approach. Listen it's

01:22:09.940 going to be it's going to be an uphill battle but like you know one of the political facts that

01:22:13.940 people don't appreciate is that if you got 25 30 percent of the black vote in this country not to

01:22:19.680 mentioned the hispanic vote you would basically derail the national political prospects of the 0.57

01:22:24.880 democrat party forever right you wipe out yeah now you'd wipe out the democrat party yeah they 1.00

01:22:32.460 they would be pretty much toast i would just say you know hispanics came our way a lot last time 0.94

01:22:39.120 at but that's not written in stone that that is we're already losing that vote again right now 1.00

01:22:44.800 so we're back to being behind so we need to win that vote that they tend to here's what i would

01:22:49.520 just say as well, they love immigration policy that is strong, that is masculine, that is going

01:22:55.140 to protect the homeland. They don't want to live in a crime-ridden society either. They don't want

01:22:58.500 to live in a crowded society. They don't want to live in a dirty society. So the Hispanics love a

01:23:03.100 good immigration message. So I just want to challenge anybody out there that thinks they're

01:23:06.300 going to win over Hispanics with like an amnesty appeal. It's not going to happen. So listen,

01:23:11.280 we're making progress, but ultimately it's going to be economics and border law and order.

01:23:15.680 Can I tell you what Charlie would say?

01:23:18.680 Charlie would say, go back to church.

01:23:21.160 Start that, right?

01:23:22.560 We have so many young men that have written in that are from all sorts of communities,

01:23:27.920 but also the Hispanic community and the black community,

01:23:31.220 that they hadn't been to church in a really long time with their families that said,

01:23:35.720 hey, they wrote in.

01:23:36.880 We got thousands of these.

01:23:37.960 They said, this is the first time I've been back to church for real in a long time,

01:23:42.020 and they've stuck with it.

01:23:43.880 We tell people this all the time.

01:23:45.040 You don't have to be good at going to church, but encourage those men, in particular young men who have never been, who might feel weird because they've never been.

01:23:53.780 They never were maybe even raised in a home where they had that opportunity to go to church.

01:23:58.300 If you're a friend that has been to church and you see a friend that hasn't been, bring that guy to church.

01:24:05.580 Show them, or girl, but what I'm saying, we're talking about young men.

01:24:08.900 this is the moment that this is the moment in history right now where we could make

01:24:13.580 massive gains and showing people hey this is the right track to building a family and get

01:24:18.740 politically on you just show up we just go we do need we do need revival in the black church though

01:24:25.320 honestly and and when charlie kirk passed i was attending i was a member of a 100 black

01:24:31.920 conservative baptist church and when that happened all over social media we were being told if your

01:24:38.300 church does not mention Charlie Kirk, leave the church. And that Sunday, I sat in the pews,

01:24:45.100 very nervous. It's a long story, but the Lord made it clear, no one is going to mention Charlie

01:24:49.740 Kirk, so you do it. And I walked to the front by myself, and I lifted up his name, and I asked for

01:24:56.440 prayer. God bless you. The church was shocked. They were shocked, and later they silently said,

01:25:05.000 thank you, thank you. But be the difference is what I'm saying. Don't run away from those tough

01:25:10.560 situations. Step up because it can be done. Thank you so much for your time. You guys have a wonderful day.

01:25:23.120 Next question. I think we're out of questions. That was our final question of the day.

01:25:35.860 No more questions for us?

01:25:37.800 Come on, come on.

01:25:40.340 Charlie Hurstow in Spanish.

01:25:42.580 I'm from a Mexican.

01:25:44.820 We need Charlie Hurstow in Spanish.

01:25:46.720 You know, you're the second person that has said that.

01:25:48.820 You mean like you just, oh, do you want the AI like translation?

01:25:52.380 I want a translation for all the speakers.

01:25:56.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:57.340 We're going to do that for the, you mean the catalog?

01:25:59.920 long all right noted you're the second person that said that to me jack why don't you take us home

01:26:08.240 and it's not just spanish it's every other language but here's the fight you know and

01:26:13.880 charlie kirk urdu yeah well this is this has been the battle you can you can produce content so

01:26:20.900 there's a lot of conservatives that actually fight over this because they're like why are

01:26:24.040 you producing that in spanish right because it's like this is the english country force of me

01:26:28.400 it is okay to produce conservative content in spanish that tells people to also learn english

01:26:36.140 right like it's that's a good thing right and so this is one of the things we we've been in this

01:26:41.360 debate for a long time with a lot of people and i'm not saying you said this but i'm just bringing

01:26:45.680 this topic up it is okay we have a lot of pockets in america because of rampant immigration issues

01:26:52.580 right whether it's illegal or legal in america that are never going to hear or understand the

01:26:58.860 topics that are at hand if you don't speak to them and meet them at least halfway and i so i

01:27:03.960 totally agree i think we should we should do those things in those communities so that people can hear

01:27:08.520 that one more question quick one quick one yeah um i had a question i'm my name is ace utic and

01:27:15.040 real close to the mic oh and i'm from alaska and oh yeah question love alaska and the last state

01:27:23.500 And it's kind of more of a statement slash question.

01:27:28.100 Everybody thinks that Alaska is like a big red state, and it's not.

01:27:33.020 It's starting to turn very blue.

01:27:34.600 It's becoming a swing state.

01:27:36.040 We have Mary Patola in Congress now, and that should not be the case. 0.91

01:27:39.920 We have Lisa Murkowski, who is basically a Democrat.

01:27:44.220 And if we have three senators, two senators that are making the difference, the turning the tide in the Senate right now, I feel like there should be way more investments and resources into Alaska and considering it more as a swing state. 0.52

01:28:01.600 That way we can make sure it is red for a long time.

01:28:04.900 Tyler, I know you were going for it.

01:28:06.660 How do we fix Alaska?

01:28:07.800 Well, you know why Alaska is like most recently screwed up, right?

01:28:12.560 Ranked choice voting.

01:28:14.220 is the worst everybody here needs to know it you need a tattoo on yourself no to rank choice voting

01:28:22.380 california and washington and so many other states so many other states got screwed up because of a

01:28:28.980 top two primary system they screwed with the elections and that's what drove your state

01:28:34.720 deep blue guess what the new thing is so that was so unpopular they're not going to ever pass that

01:28:40.980 in another state, the top two primary system. But now California and Washington are screwed

01:28:45.860 up permanently because of that. The new thing is ranked choice voting. And they're not trying

01:28:50.960 to produce ranked choice voting in deep blue states. They're trying to institute it in red

01:28:55.580 states like Alaska. And then what happens? You elect Democrats through the system. And I could

01:29:01.200 get into all the details of why. What's important is that everybody here is a warrior, leaves this

01:29:06.980 place and goes rank choice voting is not going to enter my state ever right alaska alaska has to

01:29:15.840 fix this get rid of it it's true you got to get rid of rank choice voting to turn back the clock

01:29:21.260 and it's still within the time period i think you can do that we're working on it but they worded

01:29:26.160 it really weird where it's like vote no if yes and vote yes if no and so it didn't pass and now

01:29:31.120 it's going to it's on the ballot again it's horrible and lisa murkowski is a total democrat

01:29:36.860 it's insane that you have to deal with that but that's the only way she survives now is you get

01:29:41.940 people who act like democrats and rank choice voting and that's it they're frauds appreciate it

01:29:46.800 all right folks unfortunately unfortunately that is going to have to close it out for

01:29:54.080 thought crime live thought crime we should do a charlie chant iro we will we will hold on and

01:29:59.400 we have right here the original four guys on thought crime live that we used to do the show

01:30:07.860 every thursday with our good friend and he's not here right now because he's on assignment

01:30:14.940 he's on permanent assignment with god i like to think that charlie's got the nine to new

01:30:20.880 out noon hour and then rush of course is noon to three up there in heaven every single day

01:30:25.680 and we're going to continue this fight

01:30:31.720 we're going to continue this show

01:30:33.840 we're going to continue all of this

01:30:36.400 in Charlie's honor

01:30:37.640 and I hope that all of you

01:30:40.000 will continue to do what Charlie would say

01:30:42.740 at the end of every single

01:30:45.020 thought crime episode

01:30:46.400 go out there

01:30:48.240 and commit thought crime

01:30:50.800 Charlie

01:30:52.280 Charlie

01:30:53.360 Charlie! Charlie! Charlie!

01:31:03.360 The crime is death.

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