Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - THOUGHTCRIME： Special Debate Edition

00:00:00.000 all right jack was over here we're live for a special live impromptu session of thought

00:00:29.700 prime we are here it is debate night now normally we do these on thursdays this week we are doing it

00:00:36.740 on wednesday so right now we're in the pre-debate setup but i want to also let you know that we've

00:00:44.160 got a bunch of the gang everyone is here so let's go back over to phoenix who we got there in the hot

00:00:49.480 seed andrew colbert andrew's in uh i'm in uh blake i'm in sunny south dakota where it feels like it's

00:01:01.780 phoenix because it was 106 degrees today but uh i guess that's it then we're waiting on charlie to

00:01:07.640 show up either you guys are actually in phoenix then huh nope nope we're waiting on uh we're waiting

00:01:12.460 on charlie to show up i believe uh he's i can't remember where he's at right now but he'll be in

00:01:18.120 time for the debate i think so he's coming i think he's coming he's got like a i think he's

00:01:22.580 doing family dinner for a little bit but then he'll be here in a minute no charlie be around

00:01:26.280 we've got producer andrew as well yes sir here i am in uh the west coast holding down on the west

00:01:33.840 coast you guys see me hear me ah there i am yeah yeah now i got you oh the west coast you guys get

00:01:40.380 rain or what did you hit with that uh with hurricane hillary it was just a great little drink for the

00:01:45.520 plants jack it was fine much ado about nothing it reminded me of when i went to uh israel and they

00:01:50.860 they told me i was gonna get like blown up by a terrorist bomb or something and everybody was

00:01:54.200 living happily as could be and things were fine so anyways and then did you i don't know if you saw

00:02:00.320 this jack but all those images of dodger stadium that was totally it they have a almost like a

00:02:05.680 reflective concrete top so it looked like it was flooding but dodger stadium's completely fine

00:02:11.540 in los angeles so unfortunately god will smite them eventually yeah no it's good um we we uh jack

00:02:20.380 we got a lot to unpack tonight but you made a special request in the group chat and i think it's

00:02:26.040 a good one um you're gonna give us an update on what's going on in russia before we get into

00:02:31.220 all of the debate night stuff so as the as the as people file in as the stream builds tell us about

00:02:37.400 that right so uh we got news and this was just as i was going to air with human events at the 2 p.m

00:02:45.240 eastern show today that um essentially uh there was an assassination it seems like an assassination

00:02:52.020 of prigozian the head of former head i should say of the wagner group this mercenary group that had

00:02:58.980 been involved in uh years of operations with the russian military or alongside the russian military

00:03:05.340 uh in syria in parts of africa and then most recently in ukraine i think most famously uh they

00:03:11.800 were involved in the taking of bakhmut uh the city which ended up being a strategic choke point for a 0.88

00:03:18.300 lot of the ukrainian forces uh wow so they were fighting out that battle while russia was uh building

00:03:24.400 their defensive lines and counter defenses throughout the entire area that um the entire area that they

00:03:31.980 were able to control since uh since the invasion of ukraine last year so prigozian led this uh

00:03:39.280 activity right this this about two months ago today some people said it was a coup some people said it

00:03:45.580 was a fake coup some people said it was a mutiny it was hard to say outside exactly what was going on

00:03:51.720 whether or not it was real because he sends these tanks up uh through this these main highways main

00:03:58.540 thoroughfares of russia and then eventually uh says that he's going to not take out putin but he's

00:04:04.360 targeting some members of the russian high command the kremlin high military command uh sergey shoigu the

00:04:10.380 head of their government or head of their military rather and so uh all of a sudden putin says okay

00:04:16.420 turn back and no harm will come to you charges will be dropped we're going to send you off to belarus 1.00

00:04:22.620 we'll send you off to africa you'll do other things but ever all all will be forgiven all will be forgotten

00:04:27.840 or so it seemed until about 2 p.m today when um when his his aircraft was shot out of the sky

00:04:36.160 outside of moscow and uh pretty much every source has come out now russian ukrainian western all saying

00:04:42.520 that it looks like this was shot down by an anti-aircraft missile and so uh it seems it seems as

00:04:48.420 though we got our answer as to whether or not the coup was real or not well i think we saw there was a

00:04:54.900 sort of a foreshadowing of this for anyone who's seen seen the movie the godfather where he's like

00:04:59.240 all right you know my brother-in-law i'm going to send you into into exile in las vegas and you're

00:05:04.640 just not part of this anymore and i think anyone who's seen that remembers how that ended i think

00:05:10.380 uh unfortunately lived out the ending of that film uh right in the whole world

00:05:16.240 hey guys can you hear blake or is that is that just on my end nah blake blake you're you're cutting in

00:05:22.160 out buddy yeah well that sucks well i know after all that we'll we'll we'll have the tech team work

00:05:29.460 with you blake and get back hey tyler boyer joins us tyler give us an update you're in wisconsin

00:05:34.320 how are we doing jack things are looking ugly in russia huh

00:05:42.940 we should just do the whole thing just really confuse everybody do this do this whole thing

00:05:52.140 and like russian broken russian i mean there that

00:05:54.200 why do you speak russian

00:05:56.600 you're not at the at the debate why don't you fill in the audience here for us

00:06:11.420 everybody's chopping up here on me but hopefully you can hear me uh yeah i'm here actually milwaukee

00:06:17.780 um i i tweeted out a few weeks ago that even though i'm on the rnc uh i'm i'm extend by boycotting

00:06:26.140 the debate because i don't think that any real conservatives should go support fox news so

00:06:30.540 uh so i am in my hotel room hanging out with you guys on live stream here tonight while everybody's

00:06:37.240 down watching the vice presidential debate at a fiserv forum that's just a couple blocks away over here so

00:06:42.820 but i'm i'm here in milwaukee for rnc meetings that are in conjunction with

00:06:47.900 the debate that's happening and uh yeah it's just been really interesting it's been really funny to

00:06:53.020 see everything kind of playing out here uh while while we've been in milwaukee for the last couple

00:06:58.500 days uh you know i i think that it's just like it's such a clear in a way situation now where

00:07:05.140 everybody's just like understood that this debate and everything moving forward is is really for the

00:07:10.440 second spot and so it's going to be really interesting to see how the reaction is because i

00:07:15.320 i got a couple of things that i think are going to happen uh blake's probably going to disagree with

00:07:20.680 it but uh we'll uh we'll go and we'll see how that works so i don't know when we want to jump into it

00:07:27.560 well then we've also got to talk about the fact that we we have tucker and trump which is going to be

00:07:33.980 launching in about 15 minutes here so we're going to have to see if we can uh get some of that before

00:07:38.740 the debate starts to see whether or not we can get some some clips have some salient moments here

00:07:43.780 because of course he's asked about his decision and tucker released a little trailer of it earlier

00:07:48.040 just a one minute clip uh so this was recorded several days ago at bedminster and there was that

00:07:53.740 moment where i think one of the staffers posted a selfie with tucker and then she had to delete it

00:07:58.500 but people kind of you know the cat was sort of out of the bag at that point that tucker had been up

00:08:01.900 at bedminster to record this interview it looks like trump was asked why he didn't uh decide to go to

00:08:06.880 the debate and of course we already knew that the charges were imminent i don't know if they knew

00:08:12.100 that the in the arraignment would actually be happening tomorrow so that one day after the

00:08:17.160 debate uh but now of course we do know that and that really is going to be the big elephant in the

00:08:21.720 room tonight uh you know these candidates are going to be on stage in an eight pack of of these guys

00:08:26.860 uh and gals who are going to be trying to have their breakout moment while at the same time they 0.97

00:08:31.740 know the front runner of the entire thing is being indicted by like a local prosecutor tomorrow morning

00:08:36.920 or tomorrow afternoon

00:08:37.960 yeah i mean uh guys this is just a reminder for everybody that's just joining too charlie's going

00:08:49.860 to be joining us here live in just a little bit so uh we're we're excited for so what's coming up so

00:08:57.860 uh guys andrew what time is as charlie do we think joining before we jump into this thing here

00:09:04.700 he'll be joining on he'll be joining on a couple minutes here i'm cold but either way i want to

00:09:11.580 break down can you guys hear me okay now at this point uh no unfortunately not actually it's it's

00:09:17.740 still pretty it's still pretty choppy man i'd like uh all right if you guys can hear me maybe

00:09:27.240 but nah it's still still choppy like like like caitlin jenner levels of choppy

00:09:32.960 yikes i think i i think rumbles uh sabotaging all these other feeds so that everybody watches the

00:09:41.020 debate on the live stream well tyler you're you're there um you were going around today a little bit

00:09:46.600 can you give us some color what was it like on the ground what was the mood what was the sense

00:09:50.140 you were getting uh down in milwaukee let's get a little report from on the ground

00:09:54.600 so the rcs meeting today it was a little it was a little crazy uh these things are always crazy but

00:10:01.300 they're doing the debate over at the five syrup forum which is where the milwaukee bucks play

00:10:06.260 so everybody's kind of shuttling over there like they went over there about five five thirty is when

00:10:11.740 most everybody went over and so they've just been kind of chilling and camping out but i've been

00:10:15.940 really surprised there's really not that many uh members of the media that are here so i know they

00:10:21.160 were all getting set up probably over at the forum but i was expecting a whole lot more to be wandering

00:10:26.580 around it's gonna be really interesting to see what happens tomorrow i actually think tomorrow is

00:10:31.080 going to be the most interesting day here in milwaukee because everybody that's hanging out and

00:10:35.920 hanging over are going to all the media everyone else are going to be wanting to get reactions

00:10:40.980 and again like i said i'm ditching the debate we're watching it here together and commenting 0.97

00:10:46.800 commenting on it but you know i just think that this whole thing's stupid i mean there's um you 0.72

00:10:51.800 know i'll just give you my take and i've tweeted this out quite a bit and talked about this i think the 0.85

00:10:56.880 rnc completely screwed this up um there's two reasons for that one is nobody likes fox news

00:11:02.620 everybody hates fox news what they did to tucker was disgusting they tried to silence tucker carlson

00:11:08.120 and so i'm so happy to see tucker just like sticking it to fox tonight uh with trump like

00:11:13.520 that's that's an incredible thing that that they're doing and good for trump for uh not just

00:11:19.160 going along with you know kind of the corporate fox media that like really hates us all um i think

00:11:25.980 that that's a that's a big deal the second thing though is this is most people don't realize this but

00:11:30.580 the sponsor the key sponsor of this debate outside of rumble is an organization called young

00:11:36.560 america's foundation and the young america's foundation uh was the original youth organization

00:11:42.840 that kind of came about in big in a big way during the reagan years before that it was really got

00:11:48.880 founded in the 60s but then took on new legs in the in the 80s and beyond that in the 90s they

00:11:54.980 really dropped the ball and just became this kind of just like uh you know for all our listeners our

00:12:01.680 viewers to give some context they became like kind of this neocon light type organization

00:12:06.720 anyways long story short they're a 501c3 they're a non-profit and they're sponsoring this republican

00:12:13.040 debate which is totally crazy to me but mike pence after he came out of being vice president

00:12:18.920 basically went to work for them full time he became a fellow of young america's foundation of yeah

00:12:24.040 and he was getting paid to be a fellow and speaking and doing all this stuff so i think it's

00:12:30.840 absolutely insane you know it doesn't matter that it's you know young america's foundation and they

00:12:35.080 hate us because you know they're a bunch of neocons and they're mad that you know turning point got

00:12:39.200 bigger than them and everything else that's not the point the point is is that any organization that's

00:12:44.040 paying one of the presidential candidates that's going to be on the stage you know shouldn't be

00:12:47.680 shouldn't be one of the sponsors so between that and fox news being being sponsors i think

00:12:53.360 it's totally insane uh that everyone just is is should you just be cool with that because it's

00:12:58.940 not cool and uh that's part of the reason why i'm not there and tyler so i do want uh i do want

00:13:04.760 everyone to know that we are going to be posting we're gonna you know if the technical uh side of this

00:13:10.340 worked out for us we have 15 minutes out but we are actually going to be streaming the debate here

00:13:15.080 and this is because rumble also has the digital rights to this stream now we know that fox news

00:13:20.520 and uh this has been widely reported at this point is is making some claims that you can only show

00:13:26.820 up to three minutes of the debate if you're on another stream that only certain portions will be

00:13:32.320 allowed or three minutes two times um yeah that's ridiculous we have a thing in this country called

00:13:37.720 the first amendment we have a thing in this country called fair use we have a doctrine that is fair use

00:13:42.480 for use reporting and commentary that's obviously what this is and when it comes down to it i don't think

00:13:49.040 there's anything more newsworthy than a debate for the office of the presidency of the united states

00:13:54.340 these are long-standing uh long-standing and well-known uh standards within the united states system and we

00:14:01.000 intend to uphold them amen can you guys hear me now no still breaking up you're you're literally like 0.89

00:14:11.320 it's like what if darth vader was a retard we don't use that word yet what darth vader because he's black 0.94

00:14:21.380 it's different all right differently no remember darth vader was black well he was he was black and white

00:14:30.300 right so he was black when he was like the robot but then when they take the helmet off it was a white

00:14:35.580 guy inside all along he was black on the outside like obama yeah basically 0.76

00:14:42.460 charlie was charlie was having some fun talking about that today on twitter

00:14:48.680 what's about it jack he got some uh he got some he got some comments about a certain tweet about that

00:14:58.300 earlier today when he was basically saying there was a you know there was a you know that that he said

00:15:05.180 it's okay to be white in fact it's great and you can be proud of that and there's nothing wrong with

00:15:08.560 being proud of that and a lot of people were attacking him a lot of people saying no no charlie

00:15:13.160 you're not allowed to talk like that and and you know i saw other people responding saying okay um

00:15:19.400 well would would you say that to any other group in the entire country no of course you wouldn't and

00:15:24.020 so i think it's an interesting debate that charlie has sparked here and i've been making some posts of

00:15:28.460 my own because look this is where we're at if if we've decided that identity politics is going to

00:15:34.340 rule the roost then then you know what fine lean in lean in and give them a little taste of their

00:15:38.980 own medicine as far as i say

00:15:40.180 yeah um so wait tyler walk me through something here for a second because you said the the young

00:15:50.580 americans foundation is is hosting the debate uh but that's a 501c3 and this is a partisan event

00:15:58.340 so correct me if i'm wrong but i don't think that's something you're allowed to do you guys

00:16:04.320 everybody has to understand like the background of this thing so you know part of the reason why the

00:16:09.500 republican party sucks so bad is that you got all of these beltway organizations that have existed

00:16:15.860 forever that basically do a whole lot of nothing right they've just they've taken yeah you want to 0.99

00:16:21.380 talk about organizations that are grifty and grifters like basically this entire sentiment of

00:16:26.340 grifting comes from consultants that are in dc that live in washington dc and what they do is

00:16:34.260 they basically take a buck that gets donated by a donor and they pass it around eight times until

00:16:40.900 everybody takes a cut and then what's left is just a small percentage and this is what's totally insane

00:16:47.300 this is and this is actually something that charlie and i talk about all the time

00:16:50.420 and and we try to avoid you know a turning point and everything that we do is you can't have all

00:16:57.700 these consultants involved in your business you gotta you gotta every donor dollar that comes in has to

00:17:03.060 go directly back to the people and that's what we've done i think so effectively at turning point

00:17:09.380 and turning point action turning point usa turning point action is every dollar that comes in we put

00:17:14.500 directly back into programming well you know we actually have bodies out there we've got the

00:17:19.540 largest field staff we've got hundreds of people all across the country and so it's really a

00:17:24.500 frustrating when you see organizations like young america's foundation who basically did nothing

00:17:29.540 they're known because they bought the reagan ranch and they've been operating that for years

00:17:33.220 and that's a god bless them for that that's it that's a great thing but you know they were supposed

00:17:37.380 to be the vanguard for years of the youth movement with conservatives and i'll tell you when i was in

00:17:42.900 college which was about a decade ago a little over a decade ago um i you know i couldn't get in touch

00:17:50.100 with these people i couldn't get help i couldn't get support and you know allegedly they were telling

00:17:54.900 donors that they were the preeminent force that was helping college kids and young conservatives get

00:17:59.860 on their feet and and you know you look at you fast forward to today so the guy that used to run it

00:18:06.340 he got kicked out and they put scott they installed scott walker so we we loved scott when he was a

00:18:11.220 governor and we worked with with his family pretty closely on a number of different things years ago

00:18:15.940 uh but you know he's kind of become this this squishy guy who hangs out with doug ducey and mike pence and

00:18:22.340 you know and and he took this job this gig at young america's foundation where he's getting paid

00:18:27.060 hundreds of thousands of dollars to virtually do very little and they decided hey this is our comeback

00:18:33.380 moment we got to sponsor the debate well there's only one problem with this guys a 501 c3 a non-profit

00:18:41.220 can't do partisan activities and in fact this is like a really great spotlight on the great work

00:18:46.820 that charlie's done that we have done at turning point andrew knows all about this because we spend

00:18:51.460 all of our time worrying about this is we we don't do anything partisan on our c3 side we do nothing we

00:18:57.220 don't we don't even have uh you know candidates running for for office for president speak

00:19:03.860 as a c3 at the c3 and so it's mind-boggling that young america's foundation is sponsoring a partisan 0.96

00:19:12.100 debate because they're probably going to get busted by the irs significantly this is like a really dumb

00:19:18.020 thing to do and and i'll tell you why it's frustrating because like again if i was just a nasty person and i

00:19:23.140 hated you know yaf and was like oh those neocons good yeah stick it to um i would say that but the

00:19:30.340 thing that's just frustrating by the way i'm all for bullying neocons we should we should be bullying

00:19:35.460 neocons as much as possible and as often as possible yeah yeah but but here's the deal they're 0.98

00:19:41.700 making the entire conservative movement look bad because we all look stupid when organizations 0.99

00:19:47.540 their c3s make glaring mistakes like this and and trust me they're gonna get hit i the guys at the 1.00

00:19:54.420 irs there's like a bunch of people that the irs are ready to to you know yeah smack back on this thing 0.99

00:20:01.780 because they sponsored this debate it is just so stupid and so anyways that's a little bit of like

00:20:06.420 the background of what's going on here so i'm looking around i'm seeing this like there's you know c3 0.97

00:20:12.740 sponsor stuff on partisan debate like we would at turning point we would never do anything like that

00:20:18.820 at turning point usa we would never do anything like that and it's just so funny to me that's like

00:20:23.460 they're they're probably gonna end up getting legally for this hold on tyler tyler the the key is

00:20:31.380 that yaf actually pays one of the contest or the the candidates that's going to be on stage tonight

00:20:37.780 namely mike pence it's not even that they're paying one of the guys like it would be one

00:20:42.500 thing if you're paying doug right doug burgum but like nobody cares about they literally pay mike pence

00:20:49.380 who's like the most detestable character in the conservative movement right now again you guys

00:20:54.420 realize this the the sponsor of the debate tonight on fox pays mike pence

00:21:02.420 how is that fair like how is there any way that that's fair to all these other candidates i mean they

00:21:07.940 probably invented the the the questions through mike pence i wouldn't be no i mean tyler let me have

00:21:14.180 your back on this really quick because the fact of the matter is i have been in all these you're

00:21:19.460 coming through with like a megaphone right now if your audio is cracked or what's up they have in the

00:21:24.100 booth but it's like it sounds like a like a like you're not choppy anymore but now it's like a like a

00:21:29.540 military commander in a 2000s like video game sarge you need to destroy the enemy guns wait blake you're

00:21:40.020 here now blake europe yes i can wait andrew go ahead i'm here can you hear me now yes i can you hear me

00:21:48.740 can you hear me now yes yeah wow all right everybody i can actually got everybody there we go

00:21:56.260 all right let me can you guys hear me though yeah we can but i know we only have a couple of minutes

00:22:00.820 left until the debate starts and i wanted to get this clip in of trump and tucker that we promised

00:22:05.700 everybody so let's get that in because guys this is this is this is a huge moment a huge moment for

00:22:13.860 everybody it's clip 90 a huge moment for the country we've got the two the the best moderator

00:22:20.020 in the country and the front runner for the primary who won't even be there let's play that now clip

00:22:24.980 90. why aren't you at the fox news debate tonight in milwaukee well you know a lot of people have been

00:22:31.060 asking me that when you say there are people on stage who shouldn't be running for president who do

00:22:34.980 you mean whatever happened to mike pence he's out there attacking you what is that do you think

00:22:39.540 epstein killed himself sincerely do you think we're moving towards civil war it's good to have 1.00

00:22:45.940 you at redminster it's very nice i love it you're saying they stole it from you last time why wouldn't

00:22:50.180 they do the same this time oh well they'll try they're going to be trying mitch mcconnell was trying to

00:22:54.580 get senators to impeach me crooked joe biden is so bad he's the worst president in the history of our 0.63

00:23:00.660 country i don't think he's going to make it to the gate but you know you never know it started with

00:23:04.820 protests against you meant it moved to impeachment twice right and now indictment are you worried that 0.97

00:23:10.500 they're going to try and kill you why wouldn't they try and kill you honestly they're savage animals 0.96

00:23:15.220 they are people that are sick so do you think it's possible that there's open conflict i can say this 0.97

00:23:21.860 there's a level of passion that i've never seen there's a level of hatred that i've never seen and

00:23:26.020 that's probably a bad combination we're doing this interview but we'll get bigger ratings using this

00:23:32.820 crazy forum that you're using then probably the debate wow so so there's a lot there obviously the

00:23:45.780 the silver uh civil war comments are uh going to get a lot of play i really want to hear what trump's

00:23:51.300 full answer is but can we just talk about how absolutely clean tucker's logo looks andrew you

00:23:57.220 seeing this i love that logo tucker x that's the good part about an ex tucker on that's the good

00:24:04.420 part about that drug that he's on he's taking x and it's making him it's a new vengeance tucker

00:24:11.140 he's got nothing to lose i love that tucker asked the questions that we we all secretly text about in

00:24:18.020 our chats right like all these chats we're a part of well he got a secret anymore we asked we asked we

00:24:23.460 asked the question openly do you think trump's gonna get assassinated he asked it i mean we talk

00:24:28.900 about that kind of stuff because we're we're trump we're watching this a lot of conflict in america

00:24:34.820 do you there's a lot of conflict in america do you think do you think it's time for civil war

00:24:38.980 now trump i mean it's a big question i mean obviously we are asking this we we advocate for

00:24:46.820 peace we advocate for keeping the nation together we don't want to lose this beautiful thing

00:24:50.340 uh we're not on team like rebel right we're not we're not trying to take up arms but at the end of

00:24:57.220 the day it's a question that's out there civil war are we are we at a national divorce and i i just i

00:25:02.980 mean hat hats off to tucker for going straight at it with which a lot of the polls would lead you to

00:25:08.020 believe the number one candidate for president in the country right now who's under indictment four

00:25:11.700 different times two at the state level two at the federal level um you know bravo i can't wait

00:25:17.300 wait by the way by the way everybody uh watching on the live stream we are going to be clipping

00:25:22.260 tucker live we're going to pull out all the best parts throw it up here we're going to react to it

00:25:26.980 in the middle of the debate you're going to be able to watch the debate and we're going to take some of

00:25:31.380 the clips when they're right and throw them up so we'll just we'll just put the we'll put the videos

00:25:35.700 up anytime as the hutchinson is talking because exactly yeah it's basically we promise we're going to do

00:25:41.140 what we can you know it's it's double duty right so we're going to do what we can folks

00:25:48.260 so i guess i feel bad like we've basically been prepping for half an hour we haven't actually said

00:25:52.500 anything about the debate itself do we have anyone we think is going to surprise during the debate

00:25:57.220 itself like is it just is it going to be desantis versus vivek and do we have a favorite of those two

00:26:02.420 and why wouldn't it be vivek here's what's gonna happen here's what's gonna happen in the debate

00:26:08.180 ron desantis is not a good debate guy he's not a good debater i hate that word debater not a great

00:26:15.700 debater uh and he is absolutely going to crumble with everybody focusing on him vivek is i mean we've

00:26:25.140 seen him he's like a freaking genius when he speaks and so he's he's going to be able to work himself

00:26:30.260 out of this whole thing the entire time so i think vivek is naturally going to be the person because

00:26:35.780 he's impossible to attack and he's already the the insurgent candidate desantis is already flailing

00:26:43.060 he can't debate and then chris christie's going to absorb he's going to suck up all the air in the

00:26:47.780 room and he's going to inject himself all night long and i don't know if you guys remember this

00:26:53.060 eight years ago when when uh those some of the people that were on the stage would just like

00:26:57.220 inject themselves and be like oh let me talk like like john casick and stuff they would just start

00:27:02.100 doing that chris christie's probably going to do that so he's just going to become detestable like

00:27:06.340 he's already detestable like as you know as as he is uh you know he's like the guy at the front of

00:27:12.420 the line and dunking donuts that's like buying four boxes of donuts and he's taking forever ordering each

00:27:16.980 one so like he he's going to be hated by everybody by the end of this thing that's my that's my guess

00:27:24.500 christie's only purpose for being at this debate was to be like the one guy who would just really

00:27:29.220 energetically attack trump and trump's not there so let's see what's he gonna do now well i think

00:27:36.100 i think what what i haven't heard from anyone on the desantis side is is that nobody's really taken

00:27:43.620 a direct target on desantis ever in person uh you seen by the way sometimes people in the audience will

00:27:50.820 get up and ask him hard questions and he he kind of has a tendency to to snap he has a tendency to be

00:27:57.060 very snippy um i think i think he's i think he's thin-skinned i'm just gonna say it i think he's

00:28:01.780 thin-skinned and i think you have a real possibility that if vivek is just going at him you're gonna have

00:28:08.900 a potential situation like um do you remember when tulsi gabbard absolutely brutalized uh kamala harris

00:28:16.420 at i think it was you know i don't know if it was the first debate or second debate whatever but she just

00:28:20.500 went in and like kamikaze herself to blow up harris completely um you could see desantis have a

00:28:27.300 situation like that either with vivek uh being the one to to just lay him out or potentially desantis

00:28:33.780 imploding because of his own personality quirks and that's something that i haven't heard anyone

00:28:39.860 on their side even discussed whatsoever even in these leaked memos

00:28:55.540 so what what do you guys think hey jack can you hear me yeah yeah i got you what do we have a little

00:29:01.300 so i got a call from and and by the way the debate's about to start and we have our first tucker clip

00:29:06.100 coming uh so just bear with us on that as a live show live live uh stream so you know bear with us

00:29:12.260 on some of this so here i got a call from a reporter the other day for those of in the audience who don't

00:29:17.540 know part of my job is dealing with the media dealing with the press um they asked me what does

00:29:24.500 success look like for those on stage and my answer was simple remain viable in 2028 that's what success

00:29:32.420 looks like here we go we're just getting started apparently it's uh black rifle coffee company is

00:29:38.500 in the corner that's interesting um guys can we can we actually up the sound so that the audience can

00:29:43.780 hear their vision for america here we go the battle as they battle for the gop nomination good evening

00:29:50.980 everybody i'm martha mccowell and i'm brett bear this is the very same stage on which the republican

00:29:57.620 choice for president will accept the party's nomination next summer the eight contenders

00:30:02.820 are positioned by the order they sit in the polls with the highest polling candidates in the middle

00:30:08.420 standing center stage florida governor ron de santis

00:30:16.180 next entrepreneur vivek romeslani you have a fake former vice president mike pence

00:30:24.980 former south carolina governor nicky haley

00:30:29.620 former new jersey governor chris christie

00:30:32.100 south carolina so hungry

00:30:36.660 former arkansas governor asa hutchinson and north dakota governor dunn bergham

00:30:48.180 some ground rules for tonight we'll ask the questions and then candidates get one minute to answer

00:30:53.540 uh if someone is singled out you get 30 seconds to respond and when the time runs out we all will hear

00:31:01.700 this very pleasant so tonight these candidates have a big opportunity to break out of the pack and to

00:31:10.420 explain why they are best prepared to be the republican choice for president at a time when the likely

00:31:16.580 democrat nominee president joe biden is working to convince the country that with bidenomics things are

00:31:23.380 looking up they call my plan bidenomics i'm not sure the men in a totally complimentary way at the

00:31:31.620 time but guess what it's working but is it more than 65 percent of americans say the country's headed in

00:31:42.980 the wrong direction and here's the reality for some voters we talk to here in wisconsin this week

00:31:47.780 we have noticed a dramatic increase in prices at the grocery store just across the board gas is high

00:31:55.780 and food is high it's a lot of people out here homeless because they can't buy food it's tough

00:32:01.460 when you got mortgage rates at 78 percent versus two to three it's just you can't afford the house

00:32:05.700 anymore it's inflation is ridiculous it's killing us out here we sit here tonight the number one song on

00:32:14.900 the billboard chart is called rich men north of richmond it is by the singer from farmville virginia

00:32:23.700 named oliver anthony his lyrics speak of alienation of deep frustration with the state of government

00:32:31.540 and of this frustration washington d.c is about a hundred miles north of richmond

00:32:37.940 there's rich men north of richmond lord knows it all just wanna have total control wanna know what you

00:32:47.700 think wanna know what you do and they don't think you know but i know that you do 0.99

00:32:54.180 your dollar ain't shit because your dollar ain't shit and it's tax to no end 0.99

00:32:57.940 all the rich men all the rich men all the rich men 1.00

00:33:01.940 did they just so governor de santis why is this song striking such a nerve in this country right now

00:33:11.380 what do you think it means our country is in decline this decline is not inevitable it's a choice

00:33:19.380 we need to send joe back to his basement and reverse american decline

00:33:26.740 and it starts with understanding we must reverse bidenomics so that middle class families have a

00:33:32.980 chance to succeed again we cannot succeed as a country if you are working hard and you can't

00:33:38.900 afford groceries a car or a new home while hunter biden can make hundreds of thousands of dollars on

00:33:44.980 lousy paintings that is wrong we we also cannot succeed when the congress spends trillions and

00:33:52.900 trillions of dollars those rich men north of richmond have put us in this situation and finally

00:33:59.220 we need to lower your gas prices we're going to open up all energy production we will be energy

00:34:05.220 dominant again in this country i showed it could be done in the state of florida i pledge to you as

00:34:12.900 your president we will get the job done and i will not let you down

00:34:20.100 thank you governor christie do you agree with governor de santis just said there and why would

00:34:25.220 you be better on the economy here we go than him well look i do agree predominantly with what governor

00:34:31.860 de santis just laid out i think that if you asked every one of us up here that we would agree

00:34:36.660 predominantly with what he just laid out here's the difference the difference is that we're going to have to

00:34:41.860 work and make sure that we sell these ideas and we able to be able to put ourselves in a position

00:34:49.380 where we get a majority of the vote not only by winning the congress and the senate in the 24 but

00:34:55.860 also by having someone who's had the experience of doing it now i was elected as a conservative republican

00:35:03.060 state with 61 of the vote with a democratic what was your approval when you left and we still

00:35:10.900 through hard strong decision making brought them around to our point of view if we cut taxes in new

00:35:18.100 jersey he was worried that they were going to kill him and trump responded sure that each and every time

00:35:23.060 we were confronted with bad democratic ideas we stood and stopped them and when there were good ideas we brought

00:35:29.060 people together to make progress going forward truth and accountability are the things we need to do to

00:35:35.460 fight waste and i'd say the last thing is this brett we cannot sit by any longer and allow the kind of

00:35:42.180 spending that's going on in washington because every dollar they spend is a dollar that these people

00:35:47.060 are not allowed to spend on their children and their grandchildren it's robbing our country and it's wrong

00:35:52.340 well governor let me just follow up very quickly new jersey when you were governor had the second lowest

00:35:57.380 credit rating in the nation after illinois and it was downgraded 11 times yep yeah and and that's what

00:36:03.780 happens when you inherit a blue state that has done that but when you look at what we did on debt

00:36:09.220 brett in that state we cut debt in that state debt that had been left to us by three democratic

00:36:15.300 gubernatorial predecessors of mine who ran up that debt tremendously and what you also saw us do

00:36:21.700 was to cut the unemployment rate in half it was over 10 percent when i became governor in 2010 what we

00:36:28.180 also did was cut pension payments to public employees to make sure that taxpayers were not being soaked by

00:36:36.100 a public employee union system that was killing the taxpayer thank you governor governor scott i mean

00:36:42.580 tim scott senator scott excuse me the song also goes after welfare programs as a senator now president

00:36:50.500 biden argued for freezing federal spending this was back in the 80s and dealing with sacred cows he

00:36:57.300 does not talk about that anymore you have been a senator though for 10 years so what have you done

00:37:03.460 to rein in the increasing size of government well thank you for the question over the last several

00:37:10.420 years i've had an opportunity to vote against spending package after spending package after spending package

00:37:15.700 what we also need to understand is that joe biden's biden dominance has led to the loss of ten

00:37:22.740 thousand dollars of spending power for the average family when you see 16 percent inflation your gas is

00:37:30.020 up 40 percent your food is up 20 percent your electricity is up 20 percent we can stop that by turning the

00:37:37.220 spigot off in washington sending the money back to the states and allowing the decisions to be made at their

00:37:44.340 own houses i helped write the tax cuts and jobs act in 2017. we cut taxes for a single mama the one that 0.57

00:37:52.900 raised me by 70 percent for dual households by 60 percent returning to the average family four thousand

00:38:00.100 dollars he's talking about what he did with trump we can't spend it that's good news for the american

00:38:05.460 people okay but just uh to follow up you did during the trump administration you approved uh 4.4 trillion

00:38:12.900 4.1 trillion 1.7 trillion over the course of that administration that's a lot of money there's no

00:38:17.940 doubt that during the trump administration when we're dealing with the covet but here's what happened

00:38:23.700 at the end of our time in the majority oh yeah all right i was just praying i was just praying

00:38:28.260 record low unemployment three and a half percent i'm throwing my head in solemnity population 70 percent

00:38:33.380 70 year low for women african-americans hispanics turn tyler up a little bit all-time low but our

00:38:40.180 inflation was yeah two under joe biden we've seen the exact opposite we've seen inflation explode

00:38:48.260 which were 12 federal reserve increases that's devastating home buyers today mr ramaswamy you're

00:38:57.540 listening to this if i may i mean that was our administration so i i don't know if i get a chance

00:39:02.100 to respond he didn't mention you specifically but we'll be with you in a second mr vice president uh

00:39:06.340 mr ramaswamy listening to all of this why should voters choose you over experienced politicians on this

00:39:14.100 stage mike pence just got shut down you know a blank slate for people you're 38 years old

00:39:19.140 you've said that you only voted in two presidential elections before this moment this political race

00:39:25.140 here we go so first let me just address a question that is on everybody's mind at home tonight

00:39:30.180 who the heck is this skinny guy with a funny last name and what the heck is he doing in the middle of

00:39:34.180 this debate stage i'll tell you i'm not a politician brett you're right about that i'm an entrepreneur my 0.77

00:39:39.860 parents came to this country with no money 40 years ago i have gone on to found multi-billion dollar

00:39:46.340 companies i did it while marrying my wife apurva raising our two sons following our faith in god

00:39:52.740 that is the american dream and i am genuinely worried that that american dream will not exist for our two

00:39:59.220 sons and their generation unless we do something about it and i do think brett is going to take an outsider 0.99

00:40:04.500 because for a long time we have professional politicians in the republican party who have been running

00:40:08.420 from something now is our moment to start running to something to our vision of what it means to be

00:40:16.180 an american today if you have a broken car you don't turn over the keys to the people who broke it again

00:40:21.620 you hand it over to a new generation to actually fix the problem that's why i'm in this race and we're

00:40:25.620 just getting warmed up all right to you governor haley so why are you better positioned to turn around

00:40:33.540 this economy that we've heard all of these voters talking about tonight then mr ramaswamy who is a

00:40:38.580 successful entrepreneur nationally right now he's beating you in the polls well i don't care about

00:40:43.620 polls what i care about the fact is that no one is telling the american people the truth the truth is

00:40:49.540 that biden didn't do this to us our republicans did this to us too when they passed that 2.2 trillion dollar

00:40:56.500 covid stimulus bill they left us with 90 million people on medicaid 42 million people on food stamps

00:41:03.300 no one has told you how to fix it i'll tell you how to fix it they need to stop the spending they

00:41:07.940 need to stop the borrowing they need to eliminate the earmarks that republicans brought back in

00:41:13.060 and they need to make sure they understand these are taxpayer dollars it's not their dollars

00:41:17.460 and while they're all saying this you have ronda sanis you've got tim scott you've got mike pence they

00:41:23.060 all voted to raise the debt and donald trump added eight trillion to our debt and our kids are never

00:41:30.020 going to forgive us for this and so at the end of the day you look at the 2024 budget republicans

00:41:35.860 asked for 7.4 billion in earmarks democrats asked for 2.8 billion so you tell me who are the big

00:41:42.660 spenders i think it's time for an accountant in the white house vice president pence i noticed they

00:41:47.540 i noticed they had to get the indians to fight each other 54 percent of voters say the cost of

00:41:54.580 groceries is a quote major problem for them right you blame the biden administration's spending

00:42:00.260 for that increase but as vice president your administration spent more than any prior 7.8

00:42:06.180 trillion dollars added to the national debt 3.5 trillion of that before covid so does that mean

00:42:12.660 that you're part of the spending problem well first off thanks for the question thanks for letting me

00:42:18.420 respond to a reference to our administration's record i'm incredibly proud of the record of the

00:42:23.780 trump pence administration i mean in four short years we rebuild our military we revived our economy

00:42:31.700 we unleashed american energy and we appointed three conservatives to the supreme court that gave the

00:42:37.220 american people a new beginning for the right to life now martha you asked earlier who's the most best

00:42:45.380 prepared for this job and i must tell you with all due respect to all of my friends on the stage

00:42:51.220 and even to one that's probably looking on i think unquestionably i am the best prepared the most

00:42:58.020 tested the most qualified and proven conservative in this race i was a leader in the congress of the

00:43:04.580 united states i led indiana where we balanced budgets and had a triple a bond rating when i was

00:43:10.580 governor and as vice president of the united states we spent funding to to backfill on the the the

00:43:17.780 military cuts of the obama administration and then we were there hey guys unpopular thought in a hundred

00:43:22.820 years haley had a good moment first person in this race it's a fair critique to deal with the long-term

00:43:29.620 national debt issues you got people on this stage that won't even talk about issues like social

00:43:35.300 security and medicare i mean vivek you recently said a president can't do everything well i got news

00:43:42.180 for you vivek i've been in the hallway i've been in the west wing a president of the united states has to

00:43:47.060 confront every crisis facing america yeah we know how you face crisis my friends you fall to grow

00:43:53.940 and bold and you side with the regime that's the responsibility just as i did in congress and as

00:43:59.700 governor just as i did when i told him but yeah you were named earlier i'm gonna get back first

00:44:08.020 this isn't that complicated guys unlock american energy drill frack burn coal embrace nuclear put people

00:44:15.140 back to work by no longer paying them more to stay at home reform the u.s fed stabilize the u.s dollar

00:44:22.580 and go to war the only war that i will declare as u.s president will be the war on the federal

00:44:27.940 administrative state that is the source of those toxic regulations acting like a wet blanket on the

00:44:33.460 economy so i'm not sure i exactly understood mike pence's comment but i'll let you all parse that out

00:44:38.580 for me it's pretty simple that's something a u.s president can do with focus and i'll deliver on

00:44:43.220 let me explain it to you let me explain it to you if i can i'll go slower this time you know i sometimes

00:44:50.020 struggle with the reading i was uh i was a house conservative leader before it was cool

00:44:55.700 i actually pushed a deficit reduction act that was it was it was never cool the national debt in the

00:45:00.980 united states when i was the leader of house conservatives i balanced budgets and cut taxes

00:45:06.180 when i was governor i mean look joe biden has weakened this country at home and abroad now is not

00:45:12.820 the time for on the job training we don't need to bring in a rookie we don't need to bring in people

00:45:18.180 without experience we need to bring that's fired

00:45:25.300 it's 30 seconds when you have a rebuttal okay and and you are up governor de santis so here's the

00:45:30.020 thing why are we in this mess part of it and a major reason is because how this federal government

00:45:35.620 handed covid-19 by locking down this economy it was a mistake it should have never happened and in florida

00:45:43.460 we led the country out of lockdown we kept our state free and open and i can tell you this as your

00:45:49.780 president i will never let the deep state bureaucrats lock you down you don't take somebody like fauci and

00:45:57.380 coddle him you bring fauci in you sit him down and you say anthony you are fired there's no evidence

00:46:06.180 that london has ever said anything about fauci in 2020. none that's a good point jack for one

00:46:12.980 second that's a really good point de santis was not on the fauci train in 2020. he got on it though

00:46:23.860 really mike actually we're just gonna have some fun tonight and the reality is you have a bunch of

00:46:28.580 people professional politicians super pack puppets following slogans handed over to them by their 400

00:46:34.020 page super packs last week the real choice we face in this primary is this do you want a super pack

00:46:40.180 puppet or do you want a patriot who speaks the truth do you want incremental reform which is what

00:46:46.260 you're hearing about or do you want revolution okay and i stand on the side of the american revolution

00:46:52.260 we're going to take control back here we need everyone to have a moment on the economy yeah

00:46:57.540 i think that's fair uh there are two people who have not we're going to get back to that we are

00:47:01.860 uh there are two people who we have not heard from yet so let's hear from governor burgram and then

00:47:05.300 from governor hutchinson i have to say i'm excited great thank you martha okay of course i'm from a

00:47:10.180 town of three hundred people it's a big deal to make it on this stage with all these folks uh but hey can we

00:47:16.660 play uh we play cut uh and i think i took a little too literally when they said 92 about assassination cut

00:47:26.180 92 from the tucker trump interview we'll get back to the debate folks but we're gonna we're gonna keep

00:47:36.820 when people like bergam are talking we're just gonna we're gonna do it it started with protests

00:47:41.860 against you massive protests organized protests by the left and then it moved to impeachment twice

00:47:48.740 and now indictment i mean the next stage is is violence are you worried that they're going to try 0.90

00:47:53.300 and kill you why wouldn't they try and kill you honestly uh they're savage animals they are people 0.98

00:48:00.180 that are sick really sick you have great people in the democrat party you have great people that are 1.00

00:48:05.780 democrats most of the people in our country are fantastic and i'm representing everybody i'm not just 0.99

00:48:10.660 republicans are great i represent everybody i'm the president of everybody but i've seen what they

00:48:15.940 do i've seen the lengths that they go to

00:48:22.900 so he didn't say yes or no but sounded like he's open-minded to the fact that he could get assassinated

00:48:29.780 yeah no rfk juniors basically said the same yeah should we go back to the debate oh it's asa from a

00:48:39.380 asa conservatives that have a conservative record no i want more trump more trump in arkansas as

00:48:45.620 governor all right let's play a two billion dollar surplus i passed over to my successor and here we go i

00:48:53.220 made sure we play 92 the size of government we have 14 percent fewer how about 93 did epstein kill

00:49:00.660 himself after i left 93. kind of for a field but it was just interesting i read bar's

00:49:07.540 account of his time he wrote a book about it right uh his autobiography and in it he lies about jeffrey

00:49:13.620 epstein's death clearly lies do you do you think epstein killed himself sincerely i don't know i will

00:49:22.180 say that you know he was a fixture in palm beach yeah uh i don't know what bar said about it either i

00:49:28.020 have no idea what he said what did he say he killed himself probably he said he killed himself and

00:49:32.100 that they were going to do this investigation they never did the investigation it's never been public

00:49:35.140 and they hit it and like why are they doing that and clearly bar knew but why would bill bar be

00:49:40.980 covering up the death of jeffrey epstein bill bar didn't do an investigation on the election fraud

00:49:45.940 either okay he said he did and he pretended he did but he didn't

00:49:55.700 talkers go in there talkers going everywhere let's get the uh let's get the debate back up guys

00:50:00.260 okay more than a thousand people are still unaccounted for in maui uh after the deadliest

00:50:07.060 u.s wildfire in more than a century hawaii's governor and white house officials said that

00:50:12.660 climate change amplified the cost of human error and a tropical storm hit california for the first time

00:50:20.100 in 84 years the ocean hit 101 degrees off the coast of florida and in the last month the heat wave in the

00:50:27.140 southwest broke records nearly 50 years old so alexander diaz from young america's foundation has a

00:50:33.940 question for you all polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change

00:50:39.540 how will you as both president of the united states and leader of the republican party calm their

00:50:44.260 fears that the republican party doesn't care about climate change so we want to start on this with a

00:50:49.540 a show of hands do you believe in human behavior is climate change you do look we're not school

00:50:58.420 children i mean i'm happy to take it let's hope to say i don't think that's the way to do so let me

00:51:06.740 just say to alexander this first of all one of the reasons our country's decline is because of the way

00:51:12.020 the corporate media treats republicans versus democrats biden was on the beach while those people were

00:51:18.180 suffering he was asked about it he said no comment are you kidding me as somebody that's handled

00:51:23.940 disasters in florida you got to be activated you've got to be there you've got to be present you've got

00:51:28.580 to be helping people who are doing this and here's the deal is that a yes is that a hand raise you do not

00:51:36.980 i think it was a hand raise for him and it's um my hands are my pockets let us be honest as republicans

00:51:43.860 i'm the only person on the stage who isn't paid for so i can say the climate change agenda is a

00:51:49.140 hoax the climate change agenda is a hoax and we have to declare independence for it and the reality

00:51:56.340 is the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy and so the reality is more people are

00:52:02.980 dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change

00:52:07.860 is governor haley bought and paid for i've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like

00:52:20.420 chat gpt standing up here and the last person in one of these debates brett who stood in the middle of

00:52:29.940 the stage and said what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was barack obama and i'm

00:52:36.580 afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur standing in the stage tonight

00:52:42.740 give me a hug just like you did to obama the same type of amateur and you'll help elect me just like

00:52:46.980 you did to obama too give me that same type of amateur hold on hold on hey governor haley would you

00:52:53.220 like to respond deserves are you bought and paid for what i would like to say is the fact that i think

00:52:57.700 this is exactly why margaret thatcher said if you want something said ask a man if you want something

00:53:03.220 done ask a woman 1.00

00:53:09.380 first of all we do care about clean air clean water we want to see that taken care of but there's a

00:53:16.580 right way to do it and the right way to do it is first of all yes is climate change real yes it is

00:53:21.780 but if you want to go and really change the environment then we need to start telling china and india that

00:53:26.900 they have to lower their emissions that's where our problem is and these green subsidies that biden has

00:53:33.460 put in all he's done is help china because he doesn't understand all these electric vehicles that

00:53:38.980 he's done what that done half of the batteries for electric vehicles are made in china and so that's not

00:53:45.700 helping the environment you're putting money in china's pocket and biden did that so first of all i think

00:53:51.780 we need to acknowledge the truth which is these subsidies are not working we also need to take

00:53:56.740 on the international world and say okay india and china you've got to stop polluting and that's when

00:54:01.860 we'll start to deal with senator scott are you bought and paid for absolutely are you bought and paid

00:54:06.660 for sorry are you bought absolutely here's what the american people deserve is a debate about the

00:54:12.500 issues that affect their lives going back and forth being childish is not helpful to the american people

00:54:18.580 to decide on the next leader of our country number one wait a second number two as a kid who grew

00:54:24.980 up in a single parent household married in poverty i wondered was the american dream real for kids

00:54:30.980 who are devastated by poverty devastated by the challenges of life i came to the conclusion that

00:54:36.740 america can do for anyone what she's done for me if we focus on restoring hope creating opportunities 0.87

00:54:44.100 and protecting america if we want the environment to be better and we all do the best thing to do

00:54:50.020 is to bring our jobs home from china if we create 10 million new jobs in my made in america plan we will

00:54:57.220 have a better economy and a better environment let me tell you why i say that brett

00:55:01.300 america has cut america has cut our carbon footprint in half in the last 25 years the places where they

00:55:18.660 are continuing to increase africa 950 million people india over a billion china over a billion why

00:55:25.780 would we put ourselves at a disadvantage devastating our own economy let's bring our jobs home we have 0.99

00:55:34.500 a lot of different topics to get to we do we thank you all thank you senator scott so coming up next

00:55:40.340 the candidates will weigh in on what could be a defining issue in the 2024 campaign all right that

00:55:46.820 was that was admittedly way more fun than i was anticipating way more fun i a couple observations

00:55:53.780 vivek is coming out freaking swinging uh and i have to i mean the the chat gpt line was was solid i

00:56:03.060 cannot believe that that audience was booing climate change as a hoax that shocks me to no end i have no

00:56:10.740 idea who the rnc got to be in here tyler do you have any insight into who got invitations into that room

00:56:15.780 did we lose tyler i think tyler was having an audio thing but but i mean that did vivek coming in out

00:56:28.580 with with just just shots fired and honestly i think hayley hayley and tim scott both sounded like they

00:56:34.260 they faded they completely faded people don't want to hear the canned responses they want to hear the

00:56:40.580 candidates going back and forth at each other because this is where you're actually getting

00:56:46.260 the substance out and and people say oh is it really substance is it really positive no no show

00:56:51.460 us you have the fight because if you're gonna take on the deep state if you're gonna take on everything

00:56:58.180 that the swamp in washington dc has to throw you have to show you want it and i'm sorry to the guys

00:57:03.460 who are like oh well you know down south we talked about you know tim scott you know i'm sorry you know

00:57:07.860 what it isn't that it isn't the 1980s anymore we're not going to have that anymore you need to put up

00:57:13.860 or shut up do we have a i don't know how long this break is but do we want to play some more of the trump 0.79

00:57:18.020 clips yeah we should i think we've got uh let's play 94. i don't think we've played that one yet

00:57:26.980 chris christie the guy left with a eight percent think of it eight percent approval rating in new

00:57:31.620 jersey now he's running for president and he runs solely on the basis so let's get trump let's get 0.94

00:57:36.660 he's like a savage uh maniac he's like a lunatic and that's all he talks about his poll numbers are 0.92

00:57:42.740 very very low he's about two percent what's he like you know him well i've had i've been friendly 0.97

00:57:47.460 with him over the years but i couldn't give him a job because i just never trusted him very much

00:57:53.460 i was just never one of his people that really trusted him i never gave him the job and that's one

00:57:58.820 of the reasons he feels so hurt and so betrayed and i understand that i really do i understand it but

00:58:03.940 i never gave him you know he wanted to be different things he was looking at different

00:58:09.220 elements of the administration and we decided i decided just i didn't want to i didn't want to do

00:58:14.580 it i think um listen guys i think christie is eminently hateable i really do i i found that chat gpt

00:58:24.740 line was a good it was a good one-liner but it actually made me kind of despise him even more and

00:58:29.220 trump's point he's got an eight percent approval rating in new jersey and he thinks he's going to be

00:58:32.660 president someone's his moment is past jack that's my take real quick someone just told me that no i

00:58:38.740 don't i know we don't have it up but someone just told me that uh fox news played a climate propaganda

00:58:44.740 ad a republicans for ukraine ad and a tick tock ad tick tock of course being a chinese-owned firm

00:58:54.340 what in god's name has fox become well it's oh you guys saw go ahead you guys saw this yeah this

00:59:00.980 yaf question what what so first off what we were talking about yeah has their logo their c3 logo

00:59:08.180 right next to this kid's head on the republican debate which is so crazy to me like this is so

00:59:12.580 crazy and it's a climate change question did i hear that right i was messing with my head he said how

00:59:18.020 are you going to fight he said how are you going to fight climate change he didn't ask what you believe

00:59:22.900 in climate change he didn't believe he didn't ask you if you believed in and um uh what do they call

00:59:28.260 it uh anthropocentric climate change basically that that humans are are to cause no he said how will

00:59:34.260 you fight climate change that's young america's foundation that's illegally sponsoring this debate

00:59:38.820 oh did i say that oh sorry yes yeah i mean we talked about that earlier tyler i mean the lengths to

00:59:44.980 which turning point usa has gone to create a c4 to create a pack to to fundraise for that build team

00:59:51.540 around that like a whole different staff around action to to stay in the irs's good graces and the

00:59:58.820 fact that yaf just goes in and just goes full rnc full party endorsement is i mean and then you get

01:00:06.020 that question i mean i think back to rush limbaugh and charlie always remembers this rush limbaugh is one

01:00:11.220 of his last public speeches was at a turning point usa event introducing president trump right it was his

01:00:17.540 final speech it was final speech i was there yeah and he the first thing he does he comes up and he

01:00:23.620 says the climate uh climate change is a hoax i can't i have been waiting to say that for years

01:00:29.860 and the room went crazy and now you have that by contrast yaf going on getting their first questions

01:00:37.860 about climate change oh dude i mean so yeah very first yaf question oh sorry tyler go ahead

01:00:43.940 no we got i think we got your audio fixed i was just gonna say this is like the total yaf moment

01:00:49.540 here like of course yaf is asking a climate change question at the rfc debate that they should be

01:00:54.500 hosting this is crazy so funny yeah i mean it's this is but here's my take is winning climate change

01:01:03.380 hey guys i i think big picture though yaf aside uh vivek is winning this he's coming out hot they're

01:01:08.820 all coming after him because they know that he's just running away with it pence is like i'll say

01:01:13.780 it slower and no it's like pence you are probably the slowest talker on that stage you do not need

01:01:19.380 to say wait guys i think they're back i think they're coming back are they back let's do we have

01:01:23.540 to go back yes we have to go back i want to i want to go back yeah i want to i was actually enjoy it

01:01:29.700 they all have to go back they all have to go back here's neocon haley can't we all agree that doctors

01:01:35.300 and nurses who don't believe in abortion shouldn't have to perform them can't we all agree that

01:01:39.460 contraception should be available and can't we all agree that we are not going to put a woman in jail 1.00

01:01:44.980 or give her the death penalty if she gets an abortion let's treat this like the like a respectful 0.97

01:01:51.300 issue that it is and humanize the situation and stop demonizing the situation

01:02:00.180 governor desantis you signed a six-week abortion ban in florida uh one of your biggest financial

01:02:06.340 backers said that you need to quote shift to get moderates or you will lose what do you say to him

01:02:12.660 and others who say politically that is a tough thing to sell nationally well i would say we sold uh

01:02:19.700 the biggest election landslide victory in the history of the republican party in the state of

01:02:24.100 florida in 2022 that's what i did we can win but second of all look um you got to do what you think

01:02:30.580 is right i believe in a culture of life i was proud to sign the heartbeat bill i remember the most

01:02:36.980 impactful moments of my life was when i heard the heartbeat of my oldest daughter uh in my wife's womb

01:02:43.460 and then saw the sonograms of all three of my kids what the democrats are trying to do

01:02:48.980 on this issue is wrong to allow abortion all the way up to the moment of birth i know a lady in 1.00

01:02:55.140 florida named penny she survived multiple abortion attempts she was left discarded in a pan 1.00

01:03:02.740 fortunately her grandmother saved her and brought her to a different hospital

01:03:06.740 we're better than what the democrats are selling we are not going to allow abortion all the way up 0.91

01:03:12.100 till birth and we will hold them accountable for their extremism but just to be clear governor

01:03:16.740 would you sign a six-week ban federally i'm going to stand on the side of life look i understand

01:03:22.980 wisconsin is going to do it different than texas i understand iowa and new hampshire are going to do

01:03:27.780 different but i will support the cause of life as governor and as president vice president pence

01:03:34.500 you're shaking your head well look i'm i'm not new to this cause

01:03:45.540 after i gave my life to jesus christ as my lord and savior and i read before i formed you in the

01:03:51.860 world i knew you and see i said before you life and death blessings and curses now choose life and i

01:03:58.820 knew from that moment on the cause of life had to be my cause and i've been a champion for life in

01:04:03.700 the congress a champion for life as governor and as vice president and to be honest with you nikki 0.95

01:04:09.060 you're my friend but uh consensus is the opposite of leadership when the supreme court returned this

01:04:14.900 question to the american people they didn't just send it to the states only it's not a states only issue

01:04:21.380 it's a moral issue and i promise you as president of the united states the american people will have a

01:04:27.780 champion for life in the oval office can't we have a minimum standard in every state in the nation

01:04:34.980 that says when a baby is capable of feeling pain an abortion cannot be allowed a 15-week ban is an

01:04:42.900 idea whose time has come it's supported by 70 percent of the american people but it's going to take

01:04:47.780 unapologetic unapologetic leadership leadership that stands on principle and expresses compassion for

01:04:53.140 women in crisis pregnancies i'll do that as president of the united states he called my name

01:04:58.580 so i want to respond to that 30 seconds so first of all i will say it is in the hands of the people

01:05:03.620 and that's where it should be but when you're talking about a federal ban be honest with the american

01:05:08.500 people we haven't had 45 pro-life senators in over 100 years so no republican president can ban

01:05:15.460 abortions any more than a democrat president can ban all those state laws don't make women feel like 1.00

01:05:21.620 they have to decide on this issue when you know we don't have 60 senate votes in the house

01:05:26.980 70 percent of the american people support legislation but 70 percent of the senate does not

01:05:33.940 capable of experiencing pain hold on 70 percent of the senate does not you have to be honest with

01:05:41.700 the american people let's get governor bergerman for one one minute here um so but the supreme court 0.99

01:05:48.980 did overturn roe v wade and and all right this is a sticky issue by the way but again i have to say

01:05:55.940 that uh i think nikki haley it's like the 1990s uh republican party called and wants you know wants its

01:06:02.900 candidate back i do think though she presents well i think she's gonna have a small small but

01:06:08.420 insignificant boost i i don't know by the way where's vivek been in this they're like they're

01:06:13.860 like uh apparently ignoring the vague on purpose now because he's yeah he's not really made social

01:06:20.580 conservatism a huge a huge thrust of his either well guys we're missing we're missing bergamentum here

01:06:27.060 oh gosh you're in dakota you're in the dakotas blake yeah blake's biased here we gotta find out

01:06:31.460 about bergamentum he gave me 19 the burgermeister we can we can turn it back up hold on he's got a

01:06:37.620 bible no i think that's a phone charger he's allowed to the federal government delegated to

01:06:44.260 them by the states the rest are left to the states comma or importantly or to the people we need to get

01:06:50.260 back to freedom and liberty for the people in this country and we can't have we can't have republicans

01:06:56.260 who fight for 50 years for this great cause and when we turn it back to the states and then the

01:07:01.540 next day they turn around and go no the feds should do that because the feds are stepping into

01:07:05.620 people's lives they're stepping into people's businesses over and over if we say that the

01:07:09.860 fed should be in on this one where do we stop i say that we follow the constitution and this is

01:07:14.740 return to the states this is where it should be but governor bergum you signed a six-week ban

01:07:21.220 governor bergum you signed a six-week ban so you're saying federally it's all going to go to the states

01:07:26.980 yes and what what is going to work in new york will never work in north dakota and vice versa

01:07:31.300 that's why this is too important of an issue that i have to address

01:07:37.380 first of all the supreme court gave it back to the elected representatives whether it's the states

01:07:43.620 or whether it's the united states congress so there is authority and that's why president biden is

01:07:49.220 pushing for a democrat asa and bergum like arguing on stage is not nearly as good as before the

01:07:55.860 previous break okay that was like i know what the den say yeah it was also boring hence versus christie

01:08:03.700 that was good i want more of that i don't want to hear bergum they should have just the rnc should 0.99

01:08:08.500 just been like yo you don't have a chance you're sorry sorry we're gonna up the threshold yeah i agree

01:08:14.180 i think that yeah i mean i think that they should have had a different way of going about this

01:08:19.140 sorry guys i don't know what's going on with the camera like i literally can't like

01:08:21.860 it's literally all i see is mustache it's the mustache if i sit at the camera it's like all

01:08:30.180 this is oh my god you're a milwaukee mustache cam yeah i don't know if we can like back up the camera

01:08:37.060 at all yeah but i have to like i'm like literally six feet away i'm like literally what are we missing

01:08:43.540 with the debate this is you know you know it's like this is like this is like what the debates would be

01:08:48.420 like if 2016 had never happened okay this is what the debates were like in 2008 in 2012.

01:08:56.180 this is the the debt ceiling what about this is what all this is what all debates are like because

01:09:04.820 like u.s style political debates are just a mistake like they're terrible sound bites they're

01:09:10.740 basically aimed at the lowest common denominator of voter which is like technically in america you can

01:09:16.420 have an iq of like 60 and vote and so you know you get are you dissing democracy again yes yes i am

01:09:25.140 and okay the truth is it's it's just very depressing like 50 years ago if you watch a debate it's higher

01:09:31.140 quality and it's because like we didn't know the truth yet we we hadn't created the internet that gave 0.99

01:09:36.420 us twitter and tiktok and instagram that just revealed that everyone was terminally stupid and so you 0.79

01:09:42.900 know they tried to appeal to the smarts of the people but now we accept the truth which is we're 0.99

01:09:47.380 just going to get like stupid sound bites about big bird or whatever until the end of time so the best

01:09:53.220 they also in that time frame lowered the voting age they drastically allowed more people to vote 0.93

01:09:58.580 that were never that never voted before we've you know we've drastically opened this up oh they're

01:10:03.460 getting into it they're getting into it jack just just i was gonna have you judge nikki haley just

01:10:07.700 based on body language all right should we listen to the next question

01:10:14.340 yeah let's get into it studio let's bring the volume up please

01:10:18.660 they did accelerate during the pandemic and are still rising actually

01:10:22.340 murders in los angeles new york chicago all up 30 percent between 2019 and 2022

01:10:29.140 homelessness is up 11 percent the largest jump in recorded history vice president pence a lot of

01:10:36.100 this began in the covid era how much of what we're seeing happening around this country is a result

01:10:45.300 of those covid lockdowns and is your administration in part to blame for how we got here well i think

01:10:51.700 what's in part to blame is the democrats been talking about defunding the police for the last five

01:10:56.580 years and we ought to be funding law enforcement particularly in our major cities at at unprecedented

01:11:03.220 levels i mean it's extraordinary to think about the violence that's claiming innocent lives literally

01:11:08.820 every week in every major city in this country and yet democrats and liberal prosecutors in major

01:11:14.500 metropolitan areas continue to to work out their fanciful agendas to do a bail reform and go easy what we

01:11:23.540 need is is strong commitment to law enforcement we need leadership in washington d.c that will marshal

01:11:30.740 the resources of the states marshal the resources of the american people but let me also say it's

01:11:35.380 about opportunity i mean a lot of people don't know that those trump pence tax cuts that we got signed

01:11:41.780 into law go away at the end of 2025 if we don't have a republican president and a republican house and a

01:11:48.180 president of the united states when i'm president of the united states we're actually going to cut taxes

01:11:52.420 further we're going to extend those tax cuts and we're going to close the federal department of

01:11:57.140 education block grant all that funding back to the states with a growing economy and educational

01:12:04.100 choice and law enforcement we will bring our cities back governor christie another issue this

01:12:10.180 weekend here in milwaukee reports say there were 30 shootings and a number of them including kids

01:12:17.860 add that to the big increase in school shootings around the country democrats blame this crisis on

01:12:22.980 easy access to guns they also blame republicans for blocking gun control legislation what would

01:12:29.300 president christie do you know i'm proud of the fact right that i'm the only person along with governor

01:12:35.300 hutchinson up on this stage who's actually running united states attorney's office i ran the fifth

01:12:39.940 largest office in america in in a state where there is significant urban crime and the problem is

01:12:47.540 not going to be solved by more money the problem is is that these prosecutors in these localities

01:12:54.740 in the states are refusing to do their job and to arrest violent criminals so what a president christie

01:13:00.500 would do is appoint an attorney general who would instruct each of the 93 u.s attorneys that they

01:13:07.220 are to take over the prosecution of violent crime in every one of those cities that are failing to do

01:13:13.060 so we have plenty of room in the federal governor christie just said that he's going to have clean

01:13:18.020 up what's going on as his vice president this country in these individual cities secondly what we

01:13:23.620 need to make sure that each and every one of these criminals are christie hutcheson everybody

01:13:29.620 and when hunter biden it's not a bad answer fills out a fake application a false application for a

01:13:36.180 for a gun permit and then is facing a 10-year mandatory minimum which was mandated by legislation

01:13:43.220 sponsored by his father and then you have a justice department that walks away from those charges

01:13:50.100 we're telling people that the law doesn't apply to everybody in a christy administration he would go

01:13:54.900 to jail for 10 years what about a president ramaswamy what is the president gotta say we're gonna give

01:14:00.820 him the death penalty so the reality is we have a crime wave in this country and we know how to fix it

01:14:05.540 the question is do we actually have the spine to do it more cops in the streets who are on the streets

01:14:10.420 able to do their jobs without looking over their shoulder for getting sued and we also have a mental

01:14:15.460 health epidemic in this country just over the same period that we have closed mental health institutions we

01:14:20.980 have seen a spike in violent crime do we have the spine to bring them back i think we should as

01:14:25.620 president i will but it's not just drugging up people in those psychiatric institutions with

01:14:30.180 zoloft and seroquel it's a deeper issue i think faith-based approaches can play a role here too

01:14:36.100 we're in the middle of a national identity crisis and i say this as a member of my generation the

01:14:41.940 problem in our country right now the reason we have that mental health epidemic is that people are so 0.96

01:14:47.300 hungry for purpose and meaning at a time when family faith patriotism hard work have all

01:14:54.100 disappeared what we really need is a tonal reset from the top saying that this is what it means to

01:14:59.940 be an american yes we will stand for the rule of law yes we will close the southern border where

01:15:04.420 criminals are coming in every day and yes we will back law enforcement because we remember who we really

01:15:09.860 are and that's also how we address that mental health epidemic in the next generation that is directly

01:15:15.700 leading to violent crime we're not looking for a new national identity the american people are

01:15:27.060 the most faith-filled freedom-loving idealistic hard-working people the world has ever known we

01:15:32.580 just need government as good as our people well mike i think the difference is you might have some

01:15:36.900 others like you may have on the stage it's morning in america speech it is not morning in america

01:15:41.060 we live in a dark moment and we have to confront the fact that we're in an internal sort of cold

01:15:46.820 cultural civil war you are and we have to recognize the american people with the failed government

01:15:51.140 in washington dc we just need government as good as our people again so let me just finish addressing

01:15:57.140 that slogan because i don't know what that slogan means we need to shut down the administrative stage

01:16:01.220 that's actually how we translate crime has been on the rise in florida governor de santis

01:16:05.620 how do you stop crime actually crimes at a 50-year low in florida we're happy with that well the

01:16:12.340 statewide it's a 50-year low and so here's the thing these hollowed out cities this is a symptom

01:16:19.460 of america's decline and one of the biggest reasons is because you have george soros funding these

01:16:25.620 radical left-wing district attorneys they get into office and they say they're not going to prosecute

01:16:30.820 crimes they disagree with the inmates start running the asylum there's one guy in this entire country

01:16:36.740 that's ever done anything about that me when we had two of these district attorneys in florida 0.75

01:16:42.580 elected with soros funding who said they wouldn't do their job i removed them from their post they are gone

01:16:52.740 they're not going to do their job as president as president as president we are going to go after all

01:16:57.060 of these people because they are hurting the quality of life and they are victimizing innocent

01:17:02.820 people in every corner of this country and it will stop when i get into office okay one more here before

01:17:08.580 the break governor bergen

01:17:09.700 but martha i just thought it was interesting you asked your question about the problems we're having in big

01:17:15.220 cities nobody ever asked the question of what about the crime wave in small towns because in a small town

01:17:20.820 neighbors help neighbors people understand each other if a farmer gets sick everybody comes

01:17:25.220 together and helps them get the crop off there's accountability there's transparency one thing that

01:17:29.540 i think this country all right they actually got to i have to say in all fairness chris christie had

01:17:37.060 a good crime answer doug doug burgum is running for president of like 1932. i understand the drug crisis in

01:17:44.740 america oh yeah now we got whatever you look at we put that back as trump even dimension uh there's

01:17:51.300 three simple words at all helpful one enforce the law it's like they have a secret deal or something

01:17:57.300 secondly let's deal with the challenge of fentanyl and it's both about stopping the fentanyl coming

01:18:04.260 kind of sounds like but it's also about education of our young people making sure that we have

01:18:10.100 uh the tools that are needed for addiction counseling that's what we expanded in arkansas as well

01:18:17.620 whenever you look at the underlying challenge of america though no one likes to see an america

01:18:23.140 with smash and grab in our inner cities as president of the united states that will stop

01:18:30.020 it starts at the top with the respect for our justice system that a former president who's under

01:18:35.540 indictment has undermined by attacking judges by attacking prosecutors by attacking the system

01:18:42.580 and saying he's aggrieved and so we have to have respect for our justice system and the rule of law

01:18:49.460 and it starts we'll have respect for them when they have respect for us

01:18:55.860 so speaking of that right now you are looking live at fulton county jail where here we go president

01:19:02.100 donald trump will be processed tomorrow so next the candidates will have an opportunity

01:19:07.620 to talk about the coming trials of donald trump all right

01:19:15.300 all right hey guys can let's go ahead and play this uh this yaf question i think it's uh 99 i believe

01:19:23.620 is that it is that it studio dude this is this is so embarrassing question this is so you play the

01:19:30.100 yeah yeah question please

01:19:35.380 polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change how will you as both

01:19:39.940 president of the united states and leader of the republican party calm their fears that the

01:19:44.100 republican party doesn't care about climate change so we want to start on this with a show of hands

01:19:49.780 that's all you do you believe in human behavior is causing climate change raise your hand if you do

01:19:56.740 okay that was ridiculous this is a perfect example of why the old right never actually conserved

01:20:04.020 anything this is the old guard what you're doing is you're adopting the positions of the left and then

01:20:10.100 coming to it from a complete leftist perspective putting it inside your presupposed question saying

01:20:16.740 the climate change is real everything that you say about it is real and we just need to fight because

01:20:21.380 that's how it is and at least i think vivek actually did call it a hoax after that at least to the point we're

01:20:26.740 talking about climate change is some sort of uh apocalyptic uh future that we're all going to live

01:20:31.060 in a dystopia it's ridiculous it's absolutely and for young america's foundation who's supposed

01:20:36.100 is supposedly a conservative organization what have you ever conserved the last 50 years maybe the

01:20:41.220 people the last last 50 years who conserved absolutely nothing who put our country in the

01:20:45.860 position and our movement in the position that it's currently in how about you step aside

01:20:50.020 and when it's time for some new guns to come in tyler i want to get your input on this

01:20:56.660 no i mean i'm telling you right now this is so crazy to me that young america's foundation this is

01:21:03.700 the this is this is why like people i was trying to tell people when the rnc picked this non-profit

01:21:11.860 young america's foundation who we know so well i knew this is what was coming a bunch of like rhino 0.98

01:21:18.020 weirdo neocon questions are super lame super stupid guys there are so many things going on 0.99

01:21:24.980 in the world right now and you have young america's foundation the best thing they could come up with 1.00

01:21:30.660 was a climate change question like what guys yeah i i agree tyler let's let's play vivek's answer because

01:21:38.660 this was interesting i felt like the audience booed when this happened let's play 97. let us be honest

01:21:47.140 as republicans i'm the only person on the stage who isn't bought and paid for so i can say this

01:21:51.460 the climate change agenda is a hoax the climate change agenda is a hoax and the reality is the

01:22:01.540 anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy uh they were booing the fact that he was calling

01:22:08.180 everybody out because i mean it's true vivek has lost billionaire financiers to fund his candidacy

01:22:15.140 because he hasn't towed the line on ukraine on climate and a bunch of stuff so i mean he did

01:22:20.740 receive fifty thousand dollars as a college graduate student from george soros true story

01:22:26.900 who cares i know if you're gonna if you're gonna pay a 21 year old fifty thousand dollars i'd take it

01:22:33.300 i mean this is this is why vivek's winning though i i mean again don't get me wrong everyone in the chat chat

01:22:39.620 we know all the issues with vivek we know all the issues we know the background is sketchy there's a

01:22:46.020 lot of things we disagree with vivek about by the way we won't get into all of them but let's focus on

01:22:50.500 the reason why he's winning the reason why he's beating ron desantis down a lot of polls and a lot

01:22:55.620 of places and he's coming up in the in the rears uh in iowa is because he's speaking to the base on

01:23:02.020 these issues the right way he's the only guy on stage that was like forceful about climate change like

01:23:07.140 this is a this is a slam dunk it's crazy it's it's a generational uh dynamic that we're seeing

01:23:14.100 play here it is the old the old gorillas versus you know the old silverbacks versus this new guard

01:23:20.980 and vivek and to some extent desantis but but desantis still feels flat-footed i can't he can't when he

01:23:27.620 his first answer i thought he was going to get off the block really really fast he was he was passionate

01:23:32.420 but then he's kind of receded back into a flat-footed on his heels posture which is i think

01:23:38.100 not doing him any favors uh again vivek just every time they come to him he's throwing haymakers

01:23:44.180 so uh let's see are we back to the debate yet guys does our suffering resume

01:23:52.820 let's see here we're trying we're not going to miss the okay charlie is now here in studio

01:23:57.540 apparently he's going to be seated in just a second he's been watching he's been commenting

01:24:01.940 in our chat uh we're still at a commercial break but uh blake what's your take give us your your

01:24:07.540 take right now i mean it's very funny how they've totally avoided donald trump until now the debate

01:24:13.620 hosts are like forcing them to talk about him because there was a lot of chatter about how they

01:24:18.660 would handle you know the elephant in the room and the answer apparently is they would prefer to not

01:24:22.580 handle it and they would just man i just don't even know who they're pandering to with this we've got

01:24:29.700 other than that i'm mostly distracted by chris christie

01:24:33.300 in four different states on 91 counts he will be processed tomorrow in georgia

01:24:38.340 at the fulton county jail for charges relating to the 2020 election loss you all signed a pledge

01:24:45.380 to support the eventual republican nominee if former president trump is convicted in a court of law

01:24:52.500 would you still support him as your party's choice please raise your hand if you would

01:25:07.860 hold on so just be clear governor christie you were kind of late to the game there but

01:25:12.820 you know i'm doing this look look i'm doing this and i know you didn't

01:25:16.980 look look here's the here's the bottom line someone's got to stop normalizing this conduct

01:25:28.420 okay now and now whether or not whether or not you believe that the criminal charges are right

01:25:38.820 or wrong the conduct is beneath the office of president of the united states

01:25:53.140 and you know this is the great thing about this country booing is allowed but it doesn't change

01:26:00.180 the truth it doesn't change the truth hello everybody get in and respond let's just speak

01:26:09.140 the truth okay hey charlie trump i believe was the best president of the 21st century

01:26:17.380 honest to god your claim that donald trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a

01:26:22.580 lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man

01:26:28.980 and if people at home want to see people blindly bashing donald trump without an iota of vision for

01:26:37.540 this country they could just change the channel to msnbc right now but i'm not running for

01:26:42.020 president of msnbc i am running for president of the united states we're skating on thin ice and we

01:26:47.780 cannot set a precedent where the party in power uses police force to indict its political opponents it is

01:26:54.260 wrong we have to end the weaponization of justice in this country

01:26:58.980 no vague knows what time it is let me take no i'm sorry you make me laugh because

01:27:05.620 you sit here in an answer you sit here in an answer

01:27:09.380 go ahead governor christy hold on governor christy just smiling through it so listen

01:27:25.700 the more time we spend doing this the less time they can talk about the issues you want to talk about

01:27:30.900 so let's just let him move brett governor christy you you sit here talking about how you want to stand

01:27:38.020 up for the rule of law yes and law and order and the fact is that it can't be selective in your book

01:27:44.500 you had much different things to say about donald trump than you're saying here tonight

01:27:48.100 that's not true well it is very true that is not it's very true i read it and i know

01:27:52.180 a lot better than you do you've never done it like you've never done anything to try to advance

01:28:06.020 the interests of this government except to put yourself forward as a candidate tonight and here's

01:28:11.380 the thing we've stood up for law and order i did it as u.s attorney i did it as governor and i am not

01:28:17.300 going to bow to anyone can he bow that's the question that's the question did he get up if he

01:28:24.180 did he said he said martha it's important to say that the president said donald trump said it's okay

01:28:37.060 to suspend the constitution now the oath you take is to preserve protect and defend not suspend i will

01:28:46.420 always stand up for our constitution regardless of the political pressure we have another question

01:28:51.380 for you we're going to get everyone in on this issue but i have another question i have another

01:28:54.980 question hold on you will all right so president trump's former vice president is on this stage

01:29:01.860 tonight he has faced hecklers on the campaign trail over his actions on january the 6th on that day the

01:29:09.060 vice president moved forward with the certification of the election so do you believe that mike pence

01:29:18.820 did the right thing senator scott do you believe he did the right thing absolutely he did the right

01:29:23.540 thing number one number two the fact that there's a crowd doing this this is not a republican

01:29:30.260 crowd we're making ourselves a bigger question about the weaponization of the department of justice

01:29:35.700 when i'm president the first thing i'll do is fire merrick garland second thing i'll do

01:29:41.460 fire christopher ray because we need lady justice to wear a blindfold that is such a tough position 0.97

01:29:49.780 in our justice system 17 percent of republicans have confidence in our department of justice here's why

01:29:58.180 we keep seeing not only the weaponization of the department of justice against political opponents

01:30:04.180 but also why don't you do something in the senate school board meetings be nice if you had political

01:30:08.820 power this deal j they're called domestic terrorists but that's not it but that's not the fbi

01:30:19.300 let me finish my comments yes not only that in addition to that we see

01:30:24.420 the swat team show up at pro-life activist homes with guns drawn why do you keep funding the doj uses

01:30:33.540 their power uses their authority not just against political opponents but against conservatives

01:30:38.900 and conservative causes it is time for a change in america and i will bring that change to the

01:30:45.620 greatest nation he's doing the obama jive thing he was doing like mlk cadence we need to do we need to

01:30:54.900 end the weaponization of these federal agencies i know but here's the thing this election is not

01:31:02.500 about january 6th here we go he memorized this here we go it's about january 20th of 2025 when the next

01:31:09.380 president is going to take up i know what the democrats would like to do they want to talk

01:31:14.180 about all these other issues but we've got to focus on your future we've got to focus on reversing

01:31:19.460 the decline of our country i learned in the military i was assigned with u.s navy seals in iraq

01:31:25.780 that you focus on the mission above all else you can't get distracted so republicans

01:31:31.860 we've got to look forward and we've got to make sure that we're bringing the message that can win

01:31:37.220 in november 20th

01:31:38.820 i think i i think the american people deserve to know whether everyone on this stage

01:31:52.820 agrees that i kept my oath to the constitution that day there's no more he's going to make

01:31:58.740 so answer the question thing i've answered this before so yeah why are we mike mike did his duty

01:32:04.580 i got no beef with them but here's the thing is this what we're going to be focusing on going forward

01:32:10.100 the rehashing of this i'll tell you democrats would love that and they will win if we let him get away

01:32:19.060 this crowd is so disconnected from the republican base it's like a throbbing middle finger

01:32:24.820 the rnc former president trump is beating you well trump supporters not showing up where trump

01:32:32.580 isn't is a pretty common theme governor hutchinson you did not raise your hand i did not raise my hand

01:32:38.580 because there's an important issue we as a party have to face chemical castration for a year ago i said

01:32:44.500 that donald trump was morally disqualified from being president again as a result of what happened on

01:32:49.860 january 6th more people are understanding the importance of that including conservative legal

01:32:55.700 scholars who says he may be disqualified under the 14th amendment from being president again as a result

01:33:03.620 of the insurrection there's a smart guy lawrence tribe under our rules and under the constitution and so

01:33:13.620 obviously i'm not going to support somebody who's been convicted of a serious felony or who has this

01:33:20.180 is this qualified under our constitution and that's consistent with rnc rules and i hope everybody

01:33:26.020 would agree with me

01:33:30.580 can i answer the question okay i'd like to answer you i've already been on it vice president pence all

01:33:35.860 right all right i'd like to answer the question you asked and not give a pre-canned speech mike pence

01:33:42.340 stood for the constitution and he deserves not grudging credit he deserves our thanks as americans

01:33:51.220 for putting his oath of office and the constitution of the united states before personal political and

01:33:59.940 unfair pressure and the argument that we need to have in this party before we can move on to the

01:34:07.060 issues that ron talked about is we have to dispense with the person who said that we need to suspend

01:34:14.820 the constitution to put forward his political career mike pence said no and he deserves credit for

01:34:21.060 it okay uh governor haley yeah the fact that there's applause shows he's gonna do that this is not the

01:34:29.540 right thing guys let's be honest i do think that vice this is a joke this shows what the rnc is that we

01:34:35.460 need to give him credit for that but what i will also tell you is look i mean when it comes to whether

01:34:42.100 president trump should serve or not i trust the american people let them vote let them decide but what

01:34:48.020 they will tell you is that it is time for a new generational conservative leader we have to look

01:34:54.820 at the fact that three quarters of americans don't want a rematch between trump and biden and we have to

01:35:01.860 face the fact that trump is the most disliked politician in america we can't win a general election that way

01:35:08.580 you know nikki's nikki's not popular either happy to answer the question mike pence did the right 0.99

01:35:18.660 thing on january 6th but i would say you started off the top of this hour saying i want to keep

01:35:22.980 that hold on china ukraine education we are china is the number one threat to our country 1.00

01:35:27.780 i want to hear a vivek answer yeah just just hold on just keep it going we're good

01:35:31.300 good about the future is time but it's just the you know who loves it biden loves it but china loves

01:35:36.580 it when we're talking about the past okay as promised we were going to spend a few questions on

01:35:40.980 it let people say what they want to say and now indeed we are moving on to the subject the u.s

01:35:45.540 has committed nearly 77 i speak on this issue i was you didn't you didn't you didn't you didn't

01:35:51.060 worry at all that's right we thought you were done but you know please

01:35:55.540 well mike why don't you say this join me in making donald trump i'm the only candidate on the stage

01:36:01.940 where the courage to actually say it that is how we move our nation forward and turn the page forward

01:36:08.020 i don't know why donald trump will be convicted of these crimes you could make be able to make a

01:36:12.340 commitment the same justice system that was this corrupt difference between you and me i'm not a

01:36:16.580 I've actually given pardons when I was governor state of Indiana usually follows a finding of guilt and contrition by the individual that's been convicted. So if I'm president in the United States, we'll give fair consideration any pardon requests. But if I may, if I may, you know, it's not about looking back at January 2021.

01:36:40.500 It's about January 20th, 2017. I put my left hand on Ronald Reagan's Bible. I raised my right hand. And I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. And it ended with a prayer. So help me God. It was a promise that I made to the American people, but I also made it.

01:37:02.660 And this fake preacher routine is so tired. Oh, my gosh. Every day for four years, I sought to keep that oath. And everyone on this stage needs to make it clear whether or not they'll do the same if they earn this job and the confidence of the American people.

01:37:16.820 If it was clear why they have to change the law. I had hoped that the issues surrounding the 2020 election and the controversies around January 6th had not come to this, had not come to criminal proceedings.

01:37:29.920 I would rather they have been resolved by the American people and the American people alone.

01:37:34.940 But no one's above the law. And President Trump is entitled to the presumption of innocence that every American is entitled to.

01:37:42.100 And we will make sure and extend that to him. But the American people deserve to know that the president asked me in his request that I reject or return votes unilaterally, power that no vice president in American history had ever exercised or taken.

01:38:00.080 He asked me to put him over the Constitution. And I chose the Constitution. And I always will.

01:38:06.840 I had no right to overturn the election. And Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024. 1.00

01:38:15.180 It's about sending it back to the states so they could do an audit.

01:38:19.580 Now we are moving on to other issues. The U.S. has committed nearly $77 billion in aid to the Ukraine war.

01:38:26.860 This is going to get good. Turn this up. Everyone will agree except for they. Turn it up. 0.99

01:38:28.840 Everyone will agree. Here comes the nauseating neoliberalism.

01:38:38.840 Who would not support the increase of more funding to Ukraine?

01:38:43.120 Vivek. I would not support it.

01:38:45.480 Europe needs to step up. I mean, I would have Europe step up and do their job.

01:38:50.260 Wow. Wow. Only Vivek.

01:38:53.960 Every DeSantis answer is so bad.

01:38:56.600 Europe pull their weight. Right now, they're not doing that.

01:39:00.320 You would not support more funds like I know to make it.

01:39:02.220 And I think our support should be contingent on them doing it.

01:39:05.800 And I would have support in China to be able to take China and do what we need to do with China. 0.75

01:39:12.660 Let's go Vivek.

01:39:13.180 Mr. Ramaswamy, you would not support an increase of funding to Ukraine?

01:39:16.700 I would not. And I think that this is disastrous.

01:39:18.800 That we are protesting against an invasion across somebody else's border when we should use those same military resources to prevent across the invasion of our own southern border here in the United States of America.

01:39:30.920 We are driving Russia further into China's hands. 0.98

01:39:34.900 The Russia-China alliance is the single greatest threat we face. 0.95

01:39:38.620 And I find it offensive that we have professional politicians on the stage that will make a pilgrimage to Kiev, to their pope, Zelensky, without doing the same thing for people in Maui or the south side of Chicago or Kensington.

01:39:51.200 I think that we have to put the interests of Americans first, secure our own border instead of somebody else's. 0.76

01:39:57.740 And the reality is, this is also how we project strength by making America strong at home.

01:40:03.780 We heard the names. Governor Christie first.

01:40:06.440 All right. Look, I did go to Ukraine.

01:40:08.840 And I went to Ukraine because I wanted to see for myself what Vladimir Putin's army was doing to the free Ukrainian people.

01:40:17.600 And let me tell you, I want you all to look around this arena tonight and imagine that every one of these seats was filled.

01:40:25.000 And if every one of them was filled, there would still be 2,500 more children outside to make over 20,000 who have been abducted.

01:40:34.900 Right.

01:40:35.300 Stolen.

01:40:35.780 How many on the southern border, Chris Christie?

01:40:38.760 And brought back to Russia to be programmed to fight their own families. 0.98

01:40:43.220 They have gouged out people's eyes, cut off their ears. 1.00

01:40:46.100 This emotive neoliberal crap. 1.00

01:40:48.680 And shot people in the back of the head, men, and then gone into those homes. 1.00

01:40:52.400 They don't care about America. 1.00

01:40:53.980 And raped the daughters and the wives who were left as widows and orphans. 0.99

01:40:59.520 This is, this is the Vladimir Putin. 0.99

01:41:03.160 This is the Vladimir Putin who Donald Trump called brilliant and a genius.

01:41:09.180 If we don't stand up against this type of autocratic killing in the world, we will be next.

01:41:16.840 We're going to take back the joke.

01:41:18.760 We're going to go to Governor Haley right now.

01:41:20.420 Hang on.

01:41:21.220 Hit the break.

01:41:21.660 I have a question.

01:41:22.560 You were mentioned.

01:41:23.120 Governor Haley, we'll come back.

01:41:24.100 Hit the break.

01:41:24.240 Vice President Pence was mentioned.

01:41:25.440 You get 30 seconds.

01:41:26.400 Yeah, well, let me, let me be clear.

01:41:27.960 Anybody that thinks that we can't solve the problems here in the United States and be the

01:41:32.420 leader of the free world has a pretty small view of the greatest nation on earth.

01:41:36.520 Oh, is this the, this is the, this is the, this is the big, big, small neoliberal talking

01:41:40.540 point.

01:41:41.060 That's Christie's deal.

01:41:42.200 Where is it better?

01:41:43.000 We've been the leader of the free world and the arsenal of democracy for years.

01:41:44.320 The Reagan doctrine years ago made it clear.

01:41:46.360 We said, if you're willing to fight the communists on your soil, we'll give you the means to fight

01:41:50.440 them there so our troops don't have to fight them.

01:41:52.940 Vivek, if we do the giveaway that you want to give to Putin to give him his land, it's not

01:41:58.020 going to be too long for he rolls across a NATO border.

01:42:00.800 Ah, domino theory embedded in the lie of neoliberalism in real time.

01:42:04.720 To go and fight him shallow thinking, Ukrainians fight and drive.

01:42:08.780 Bought by the war industry.

01:42:10.880 This is the entire Mitt Romney campaign.

01:42:13.780 A hundred percent.

01:42:15.180 I have a newsflash.

01:42:15.980 The USSR does not exist anymore.

01:42:17.640 Mike Pence is like Mitt Romney.

01:42:19.500 The real threat.

01:42:20.820 You talked about the communists and the real communists that we have to address right

01:42:23.800 now is the.

01:42:24.640 I have any idea.

01:42:26.240 You already spoke.

01:42:27.500 Now I actually have something to say.

01:42:28.440 Finish it.

01:42:28.820 Vivek has been saying he wants to reestablish the world Soviet sphere of influence.

01:42:32.500 Hold on.

01:42:33.040 You've made your point.

01:42:33.840 I'm sorry if I insulted him by calling him a communist. 1.00

01:42:39.600 He is a dictator and a murderer. 0.93

01:42:42.500 And the United States of America needs to stand against authoritarianism. 0.99

01:42:47.660 All right.

01:42:47.980 Mr. Ramos-Ramme, 30 seconds.

01:42:50.060 Vivek will say the communists in our government.

01:42:51.640 What we have today is communist China.

01:42:53.460 And we are driving Russia further into China's arms. 0.94

01:42:57.560 The Russia-China military alliance is the single greatest threat we face.

01:43:01.860 Nobody in either political party is talking about it.

01:43:03.540 And I am the only non-Rammeo con on this stage.

01:43:07.200 But it will keep us out of war.

01:43:08.420 Mr. Vice President, we can't hear.

01:43:10.420 Mr. Vice President.

01:43:11.080 Mr. Vice President.

01:43:11.140 To give Russia everything they've got. 0.78

01:43:13.580 Mr. Vice President.

01:43:14.560 Give them a promise that Ukraine will never be in NATO.

01:43:17.980 And then somehow.

01:43:19.000 Mr. Vice President.

01:43:19.540 China will not think about taking Taiwan.

01:43:22.800 We achieve peace through strength.

01:43:25.640 Mr. Vice President.

01:43:26.420 He will send your grandson to war. 0.87

01:43:32.360 When we hear this bell.

01:43:34.200 Yes.

01:43:35.440 That means your time's done.

01:43:38.200 So, Mr. Vice President, we appreciate your aggressiveness here.

01:43:41.840 30 seconds is 30 seconds.

01:43:43.520 Mr. Ramaswamy, you were mentioned.

01:43:45.100 You get 30 seconds.

01:43:45.960 So the reality is that today, today, Ukraine is not a priority for the United States of America.

01:43:54.000 The fact that Vivek is being booed by Republican donors makes me love him, and you should support him, too.

01:43:59.560 You cannot end it.

01:44:00.420 These are warmongers that have done nothing good for our country.

01:44:03.440 And I do not want to get to the point where we're sending our military resources abroad

01:44:06.340 when we could be better using them here at home to protect our own borders, protect the homeland.

01:44:11.940 All right.

01:44:12.220 That will be my top priority in foreign policy.

01:44:14.080 I think we gave you more than the 30 seconds in the rebound.

01:44:16.820 So I do want to get to some other people because everybody, we respect everybody's time here.

01:44:21.480 Nobody cares about Doug Burgum.

01:44:22.440 Governor Haley, you did not raise your hand, meaning that you would support more funding

01:44:28.480 for the Ukraine war.

01:44:30.060 You have said of Governor DeSantis that you didn't appreciate it when he initially called

01:44:36.080 it a territorial dispute.

01:44:38.340 Why?

01:44:39.220 First of all, the American president needs to have moral clarity.

01:44:42.660 They need to know the difference between right and wrong.

01:44:45.040 They need to know the difference between good and evil.

01:44:47.840 When you look at the situation with Russia and Ukraine, here you have a pro-American country 0.88

01:44:52.760 that was invaded by a thug.

01:44:55.340 So when you want to talk about what has been given to Ukraine, less than three and a half

01:45:00.020 percent of our defense budget has been given to Ukraine.

01:45:04.180 If you look at the percentages per GDP, 11 of the European countries have given more than

01:45:10.060 the U.S. But what's really important is go back to when China and Russia held hands, shook hands

01:45:16.520 before the Olympics and named themselves unlimited partners.

01:45:20.380 A win for Russia is a win for China. 0.99

01:45:23.480 We have to know that. 1.00

01:45:24.520 This is such failed neoliberal crap. 0.99

01:45:27.380 And the problem that Vivek doesn't understand is he wants to hand Ukraine to Russia. 0.99

01:45:32.800 He wants to let China eat Taiwan.

01:45:33.440 No, he wants to secure our border, Nikki.

01:45:35.400 He wants to go and stop funding Israel.

01:45:37.660 You don't do that to friends.

01:45:39.680 What you do instead is you have the backs of your friends.

01:45:42.280 Ukraine is a front line of defense.

01:45:44.540 Putin has said if Russia, once Russia takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next.

01:45:50.620 That's a world war.

01:45:51.700 We're trying to prevent war. 0.69

01:45:53.140 Look at what Putin did today.

01:45:54.960 He killed Pergozin.

01:45:56.060 When I was at the U.N., the Russian ambassador suddenly died. 0.99

01:46:00.700 This guy is a murderer. 0.79

01:46:01.780 Did he take the COVID shot? 0.99

01:46:02.820 And you are choosing a murderer over a pro-American country.

01:46:06.800 Stop talking about Anthony Fauci.

01:46:09.820 First of all, first of all, Mr. Ramaswamy, you have 30 seconds.

01:46:13.760 Mr. DeSantis, I wish you well in your future career on the boards of Lockheed and Raytheon.

01:46:18.140 I'm not on the boards of Lockheed and Raytheon.

01:46:20.540 Boeing came off of it, but you've been pushing this lie.

01:46:22.920 You've been pushing this lie all week, Nikki.

01:46:24.960 You've been pushing this lie to go and defund Israel.

01:46:26.500 You want to get total on to China.

01:46:28.240 Okay, let me address that. I'm glad you brought that up.

01:46:29.040 You want to go and give you...

01:46:29.600 Okay, let me address that. I'm glad you brought that up.

01:46:31.080 You want to go and give you...

01:46:31.660 I'm going to address each of those right now.

01:46:31.680 This is the false lies of a professional politician.

01:46:35.680 There you have it.

01:46:36.620 Under your watch, you will make America less than you have no foreign policy experience.

01:46:40.680 And it shows.

01:46:41.320 And you know what?

01:46:41.960 It shows.

01:46:42.600 This body is so violent.

01:46:48.220 So our relationship with Israel will never be stronger than by the end of my first term.

01:46:55.320 But it's not a client relationship.

01:46:57.660 It is a friendship.

01:46:59.680 And you know what friends do?

01:47:01.120 Friends help each other stand on their own two feet.

01:47:03.740 So I will lead Abraham Accords 2.0.

01:47:05.980 I will partner with Israel to make sure Iran never is nuclear armed. 0.76

01:47:10.140 But you know what I love about Israel?

01:47:11.700 And I've been there probably in the last 10 years more than most people on this stage.

01:47:15.060 You know what I love about them?

01:47:16.180 I love their border policies.

01:47:17.880 I love their tough on crime policies.

01:47:19.680 I love that they have a national identity and an iron dome to protect their homeland.

01:47:24.840 And so, yes, I want to learn from the friends that we're supporting.

01:47:27.960 And what puzzles me is no, I want to learn from those and apply those to protect our homeland.

01:47:32.600 It's not that Israel needs America.

01:47:34.400 America needs Israel. 0.98

01:47:35.920 Okay, Governor DeSantis, you were mentioned in the territorial dispute.

01:47:41.160 Not only...

01:47:42.000 No, it's not a territorial dispute either.

01:47:44.200 As president of the United States, your first obligation is to defend our country.

01:47:49.680 and its people.

01:47:51.400 And that means you're sending all this money, but you're not doing what we need to do to

01:47:56.840 secure our own border.

01:47:58.220 We have tens of thousands of people who are being killed because, well, we're not handling both.

01:48:03.800 And so I am going to declare it a national emergency.

01:48:07.600 I'm not going to send troops to Ukraine, but I am going to send them to our southern border. 1.00

01:48:11.760 Okay, that's the right answer, DeSantis.

01:48:13.340 That is the right answer.

01:48:15.180 Across the border, that's going to be the last thing they do.

01:48:18.000 We're going to use force, and we're going to leave them stone-cold day.

01:48:21.040 We're actually going to move on to China.

01:48:23.480 We're going to talk about China.

01:48:24.700 He's not standing out, though, Charlie.

01:48:25.780 Governor Burgum.

01:48:26.520 DeSantis is not...

01:48:27.100 China has the biggest navy in the world, the biggest army in the world.

01:48:30.520 Now they have warships off the coast of Alaska.

01:48:33.720 They are threatening Taiwan. 0.93

01:48:35.580 In coming years, China will have 1,500 nuclear warheads, it's believed.

01:48:39.760 The U.S. just arrested two sailors accused of spying for China within our military.

01:48:45.980 So the question is, how would you deter China as a president, Burgum?

01:48:51.560 Well, this is the number one issue we're facing.

01:48:54.100 And, of course, we haven't been talking about it, and we act like that letting Russia win 0.62

01:48:57.020 in the Ukraine is like a gimme as opposed to a gift to China.

01:49:01.360 Russia has become China's gas station. 0.88

01:49:03.580 But how would we do it?

01:49:04.900 The Biden administration is a complete fail.

01:49:07.040 China imports 10 million barrels of oil a day more than any other country in the world.

01:49:13.240 They do not even have all the food they need to feed everybody in that country.

01:49:16.380 So they don't have energy security or food security.

01:49:18.640 But the Biden administration sends Blinken, Yellen over there.

01:49:23.600 They're over there talking.

01:49:25.160 They don't even bring up energy because they're too busy trying to kill the U.S. energy here.

01:49:29.760 And what we need to do is not meetings, not press releases,

01:49:32.560 because something that would send a lot more than a press release is actually harpoon missiles. 0.98

01:49:37.680 We need anti-ship missiles on Taiwan. 0.55

01:49:40.700 The way that you have a war never start, which is the goal,

01:49:44.180 the way you have peace through strength is that you actually have strength.

01:49:47.400 You actually have deterrence.

01:49:48.540 And what we have in what we've got going on in Ukraine is an example of when deterrence fail.

01:49:54.620 What is an example there of Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan?

01:49:59.060 The fact that he greenlighted Putin moving into Ukraine.

01:50:01.620 And then now they see weakness.

01:50:03.100 And when they see weakness, they make a move.

01:50:04.960 And we have to be strong and we have to be strong.

01:50:09.120 Both in Ukraine and we can solve the southern border.

01:50:11.760 Absolutely.

01:50:12.200 We can do that because guess what?

01:50:14.500 There's only 19,855 authorized people for the Border Patrol.

01:50:18.520 But they're not all staff because the Biden administration doesn't enforce law enforcement.

01:50:22.400 But Biden administration wanted to put 87,000 people in the IRS

01:50:26.280 as opposed to giving the money in this fort we need to our own Border Patrol.

01:50:30.880 Okay.

01:50:32.200 Senator Scott on China, that same question.

01:50:35.300 Can I speak about China?

01:50:36.220 Let's fire the 87,000 IRS leaders.

01:50:39.880 Yeah, if only we had a senator on the stage. 1.00

01:50:41.580 Oh my gosh, that would be so helpful.

01:50:43.100 I've doubled the number of Border Patrol agents.

01:50:44.380 I just left Yuma, Arizona about two weeks ago.

01:50:47.820 The most pressing need of the American people from a national security standpoint

01:50:51.700 is our southern border.

01:50:53.820 It has led to the death of 70,000 Americans because of fentanyl.

01:50:59.820 Plus 6 million illegal crossings since President Biden has taken office.

01:51:05.760 And 200 people on our national security watch list have been caught at our border.

01:51:13.540 How many have not been caught at our southern border?

01:51:16.880 If we just spent $10 billion, we could finish the wall.

01:51:22.100 For $5 billion more, we could have the military-grade technology to surveil our southern border

01:51:28.680 to stop the flow of fentanyl and save 70,000 Americans a year.

01:51:36.240 That should be the priority of this government.

01:51:40.600 And as the next president of the United States, I will make that border wall complete.

01:51:46.200 There are many more questions on China.

01:51:48.060 I do want to ask about it.

01:51:49.520 I want to say I couldn't agree more.

01:51:51.240 It's not just the 70,000 from fentanyl.

01:51:53.240 We've lost 200,000 people to overdoses since Biden took office.

01:51:56.860 That's 300 people a day.

01:51:58.360 We're taking mass casualties.

01:52:00.280 And that's a statistic.

01:52:01.640 But these are sons and daughters, nieces and nephews that we're losing.

01:52:05.100 We've got North Dakota troops down there flying night helicopter missions

01:52:08.280 from San Diego to the Gulf Coast trying to stop these transnational criminal organizations.

01:52:13.240 They've got better funding on their side than we've got on our side.

01:52:16.300 Speaking of which, Governor Hutchinson, speaking of which, images from earlier this month,

01:52:20.760 Governor Hutchinson, Vice President Pence, images from earlier this month.

01:52:27.020 Vice President Pence, it really doesn't help.

01:52:29.220 I'm asking a question.

01:52:30.700 Earlier this month, images showed suspected cartel members crossing into Texas with rifles.

01:52:39.160 Do you consider this an invasion?

01:52:42.300 That's a good question, Brett.

01:52:43.920 There would be lethal force along that border.

01:52:47.760 There would be lethal force used by the Border Patrol law enforcement as needed to protect the border.

01:52:56.080 Absolutely.

01:52:56.960 When you look at the military, the military has to be used for intelligence gathering purposes.

01:53:02.580 This is not unusual.

01:53:03.760 Whenever I was in the Bush administration, we went down there and met with President Vincente Fox of Mexico

01:53:11.680 and asked his help on going after the cartels.

01:53:14.860 And he looked at me and said, they're a problem to us as well.

01:53:18.260 And so we joined together and we took down the Ariana Felix brothers leading the Tijuana cartel.

01:53:26.240 And that made a difference.

01:53:27.600 Ramon was shot and killed and Ben Amin was captured.

01:53:30.560 Cooperation makes a difference.

01:53:32.980 We cannot be successful going against the cartel unless we bring in Mexico as a partner. 1.00

01:53:40.860 We have to use economic pressure to accomplish that.

01:53:43.920 President Obrador has not been helpful.

01:53:46.300 And we have to use economic pressure that this administration is not using.

01:53:50.460 The rule of law has to matter on both sides of it.

01:53:53.160 This is critical.

01:53:54.800 I've done it.

01:53:55.440 We know what needs to be done.

01:53:57.760 The military has to be limited in its use.

01:54:02.020 When after 9-11, we had the global war on terror.

01:54:06.380 And guess what?

01:54:07.300 We protected the border at the same time.

01:54:09.940 You can do both.

01:54:10.500 You can do a very good job.

01:54:11.000 Let's go to Governor DeSantis.

01:54:14.020 So, as president, would you support sending U.S. special forces over the border into Mexico

01:54:22.460 to take out fentanyl labs, to take out drug cartel operations?

01:54:26.760 Would you support that kind of American military use?

01:54:30.320 Yes.

01:54:30.860 And I will do it on day one.

01:54:33.160 Here's the thing.

01:54:33.900 The right answer.

01:54:34.780 The cartels are killing tens of thousands of our fellow citizens.

01:54:40.240 You want to talk about a country in decline?

01:54:42.340 You have the cartels controlling a lot of part of your southern border.

01:54:46.260 We have to reestablish the rule of law.

01:54:49.420 And we have to defend our people.

01:54:51.760 The president of the United States has got to use all available powers as commander-in-chief

01:54:57.440 to protect our country and to protect the people.

01:55:00.700 So, when they're coming across, yes, we're going to use lethal force.

01:55:04.420 Yes, we reserve the right to operate.

01:55:06.880 How many more tens of thousands are we going to let to die?

01:55:09.900 I am sick.

01:55:10.660 I've met angel moms throughout this country.

01:55:13.040 I met a lady in Texas named Tracy. 1.00

01:55:15.880 And her son took one Percocet that was laced with fentanyl, immediately died.

01:55:24.200 That is happening all across this country because of the poison that they are bringing in.

01:55:28.960 So, as president, would I use force?

01:55:31.580 Would I treat them as foreign terrorist organizations? 0.54

01:55:34.140 You're darn right I would. 0.79

01:55:35.880 You know, Vice President Pence.

01:55:39.220 Vice President Pence, why would you be better at this issue than Governor DeSantis?

01:55:44.520 Governor DeSantis on the campaign trail refers to your administration as not finishing the wall.

01:55:50.100 Right, right.

01:55:51.100 Look, we secured the southern border of the United States of America and reduced illegal immigration and asylum abuse by 90 percent.

01:56:03.940 When Joe Biden took over, he threw open the southern border of the United States.

01:56:08.000 And the wave of humanity, the wave of fentanyl that's been eloquently described here is a wave of human tragedy across this country.

01:56:15.920 But, Martha, you began this evening talking about who is best prepared to be the next president of the United States.

01:56:21.400 Yeah, who's been a politician the longest is how he answers that question.

01:56:24.620 I was there when we negotiated through the government shutdown and got the funding available to build the wall.

01:56:33.060 I was negotiating on Capitol Hill around the clock.

01:56:35.740 I negotiated the remaining Mexico policy on behalf of the president of the United States.

01:56:40.240 And, A.C., you're so right.

01:56:41.460 It's because we used economic pressure to bring the Mexicans to the table. 1.00

01:56:45.920 And they allowed us to have people wait in Mexico while they applied for asylum and end in asylum abuse overnight.

01:56:53.040 We got the Mexicans to deploy their National Guard to their southern border and to our southern border as never before. 0.97

01:57:01.000 And I want to promise you, as president of the United States of America, I will engage Mexico the exact same way.

01:57:08.200 And we will partner with the Mexican military and we will hunt down and destroy the cartels that are claiming lives in the United States.

01:57:17.220 Another issue that is related to this is that almost 7 million migrants have crossed this border, our southern border, during the Biden administration.

01:57:28.860 So, Governor Christie, what would you do about the 7 million who are here?

01:57:33.820 How would you handle them?

01:57:34.940 What would you do?

01:57:35.320 That's a pathway to citizenship.

01:57:36.100 Look, Martha, the first thing we need to do is to stop any more from coming.

01:57:40.340 That's the first thing we need to do.

01:57:41.860 Then, the next thing we need to do with the folks that are here is to, again, as we've talked about all night tonight, we have to have law and order in this country.

01:57:51.200 We have to enforce the law.

01:57:52.740 And what that means is to make sure that people who come here illegally are not rewarded for being here illegally.

01:57:59.440 We have so many wonderful people from around the world who are waiting in line, following the law to try to come here and pursue the American dream.

01:58:09.340 And those people are waiting and waiting and waiting because we haven't dealt with the problem of the folks who are here.

01:58:17.860 We have to have them detained.

01:58:20.620 We have to make sure that they are not rewarded for having broken the law.

01:58:25.220 And one last thing on this fentanyl issue.

01:58:28.740 With China, we can't take our eye off of that ball. 1.00

01:58:32.280 Yes, it's important that we secure the border.

01:58:35.140 Very important, as I just said.

01:58:37.020 But China is sending these chemicals to these drug cartels for them to create the fentanyl that is killing hundreds of thousands of our citizens.

01:58:47.320 The Chinese are engaging in an act of war against us, killing our citizens. 1.00

01:58:52.240 We better make that priority one in our conversations with China and to try to straighten that relationship out.

01:58:58.480 Because if we don't, we're going to lose more and more of our citizens.

01:59:00.960 I just want to clarify.

01:59:02.180 Would you send those people back?

01:59:05.020 Of course.

01:59:07.080 You'd have to.

01:59:09.060 We have a lot of issues that Americans care about.

01:59:11.880 Next up, we're going to talk about the crisis in education.

01:59:14.940 Christy's entertaining.

01:59:15.720 As millions of American children are not prepared in reading or math.

01:59:20.920 Charlie, lead us.

01:59:22.860 No, I thought it was really interesting.

01:59:25.320 I mean, it just goes to show first what the Republican Party is without Trump.

01:59:29.040 I mean, outside of Vivek, if Vivek would not be in the race, it would be a complete agreement on money in Ukraine, soft answers on immigration, kind of kid gloves with the administrative state.

01:59:40.560 It's completely, completely different.

01:59:44.060 And was I processing that right?

01:59:46.220 Was the Young America Foundation commercial about climate change?

01:59:49.020 I mean, their, like, little thing that they paid for?

01:59:51.760 Did I see that right?

01:59:53.420 Their ad was that.

01:59:54.940 It was like, what are you going to do to convince young people that you really care about the climate change?

02:00:01.480 Oh, my God.

02:00:02.180 Oh, my God.

02:00:03.500 I'm being told that there's a clip here.

02:00:05.060 This is not the premier youth organization on the right.

02:00:08.500 That would be Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.

02:00:11.000 Play cut 98.

02:00:11.840 Polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate change.

02:00:16.920 How will you, as both president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party, calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change?

02:00:24.780 So we want to start on this one.

02:00:26.520 Calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change?

02:00:30.320 Like, that's, like, what a hit another group would do on YAF to, like, discredit them.

02:00:36.840 To, like, have a guy ask that question with a big YAF logo right off to the side.

02:00:41.760 This is, like, literally, like, an SNL version of YAF.

02:00:45.000 It's, like, it's literally if they were making fun of YAF on SNL right now.

02:00:49.200 It's so crazy.

02:00:50.460 Jack, are you back?

02:00:52.140 No, Jack was having an IFB.

02:00:53.580 No, I'm here.

02:00:54.000 I'm here.

02:00:54.220 He's going to join us for the post.

02:00:55.260 Oh, he's back.

02:00:56.300 Okay.

02:00:56.700 All right.

02:00:57.020 He is here.

02:00:57.840 I'm here.

02:00:58.140 Yeah, no, I was having this weird IFB issue where basically I couldn't hear the debate

02:01:01.600 when there was crosstalk, and it was just getting all mixed up.

02:01:04.820 Anyway, it's my thing, but I'll be here during and after.

02:01:07.380 Look, I have a question.

02:01:08.700 Does anybody know why it was that Governor Ron DeSantis also decided to skip the debate tonight?

02:01:15.140 Because I know that President Trump didn't show up, but I was really expecting Governor

02:01:19.880 DeSantis to show up, and yet I have yet to see him do so.

02:01:23.060 Yeah, you know, Jack, my take on it, and I was reading some of the comments online, a

02:01:30.100 lot of people keep saying, DeSantis is doing fine.

02:01:33.960 He's doing fine.

02:01:35.200 And I think Charlie, Charlie, you tweeted out something just a second ago.

02:01:40.080 I forget what you said exactly, but you were like, he's doing, his answers are like technically

02:01:44.560 correct, but he's just not having a standout moment he needed.

02:01:48.480 Yeah, but Vivek is soaring.

02:01:50.320 Vivek's answers about go back on the board of Boeing or Lockheed Martin, Nicky.

02:01:54.320 Perfect.

02:01:55.360 This is a great, this is a tweet I just, it was forwarded by a friend by some, I think

02:02:00.320 it's like a crypto guy.

02:02:01.980 Pence is so old, he's still talking about defunding the police.

02:02:05.660 He needs new talking points. 0.93

02:02:07.380 He needs to call Chris Crispy a fat loser and to tell Vivek that his H-1B visa is about 0.53

02:02:12.980 to run out to have a chance. 0.71

02:02:14.680 But the biggest takeaway I have, we're going to really dwell on this, guys, throw the debate

02:02:24.780 once we come back, is who the hell is in the debate audience?

02:02:27.160 Tyler, you and I know a couple of really good people there, but generally, Tyler, you're

02:02:30.220 there, Tyler has boycotted this, Tyler's in Milwaukee, he had a ticket and he decided

02:02:35.060 to be with us.

02:02:35.940 Tyler, I am getting angry at how disconnected this RNC group is with the Republican base.

02:02:42.100 Charlie, you have no idea.

02:02:43.360 I'm like walking around.

02:02:44.900 It's so funny.

02:02:45.440 Today, you'll be so proud.

02:02:47.680 I wore those little, the little badges that Rana sent.

02:02:52.960 It's so funny.

02:02:54.000 I wore these on my jacket today.

02:02:56.840 You know, all the things that they trick old people with. 1.00

02:02:59.280 You know, all the living, you're a living, you're a living, you're a living, you're a

02:03:02.380 living, you're a living, you're a living, you're a living, you're a living, you're a

02:03:04.640 So, I, I, this is how scary it is.

02:03:07.960 So, I printed out those emails, the fake awards that they give people on emails to get

02:03:12.060 to donate five bucks and i wore them all over my jacket and i walked up and some of the old

02:03:17.720 people that are on the rnc were like oh how do i get one of those i'm like oh my god

02:03:22.880 this is exactly this is manipulation this is terrible we need like it would be such a free

02:03:29.080 line it'd be such a free line if you just had like debate is back let's cut back let's enjoy

02:03:34.260 for 15 year olds and 13 year olds governor de santis you would eliminate you said the

02:03:40.380 department of education but as president would you still have a responsibility to fix this crisis

02:03:46.840 as we see it absolutely the decline in education is one of the major reasons why our country is in

02:03:53.200 decline we need education in this country not indoctrination in this country he's got to stop

02:03:59.720 with this scripted stuff man florida we stood up for what was right first we had schools open during

02:04:04.560 covid and a lot of the problems that we've seen are because these lockdown states lock their kids

02:04:09.560 out of school for a year year and a half that was wrong we stood up i took a lot of fire for that

02:04:14.280 i was uh i was pilloried by the media but i stood for our kids and as president i'll stand for you and

02:04:19.380 your kids as well but we have to make sure that what our schools are doing is focusing on solid

02:04:26.040 academics in florida we eliminated critical race theory from our k-12 school we eliminated gender 0.97

02:04:32.760 ideology from our k-12 schools and we have elevated the importance of american civics and teaching

02:04:39.560 our kids about the constitution and the bill of rights as president i'm going to lead an effort to

02:04:46.120 increase civic understanding and knowledge of our constitution we cannot be graduating students that

02:04:52.760 don't have any foundation in what it means to be an american mr ramaswamy mr ramaswamy

02:04:57.480 it's de santis's strongest sweet spot mr ramaswamy hold on senator scott

02:05:01.720 you said that the department of education the fbi the atf the nuclear regulatory commission the irs

02:05:08.760 the department of commerce many of these should not exist that's correct so to the education

02:05:14.520 question how would you deal with the crisis so look we have a crisis of achievement let's shut down

02:05:20.040 the head of the snake the department of education take that 80 billion dollars put it in the hands

02:05:24.840 of parents across this country this is the civil rights issue of our time allow any parent to choose

02:05:30.760 where they send their kids to school and the teachers unions at the local level to allow public schools

02:05:36.360 to compete and then revive our national identity where every high school senior should have to pass

02:05:43.320 the same civics test that frankly every immigrant including my mother had to pass in order to become a

02:05:49.000 citizen of this country and the fact of the matter is look there's a part of education policy that

02:05:55.000 also rests with the family i didn't grow up in money but you know the word privilege gets used a lot

02:06:01.000 well you know what i do have the ultimate privilege of two parents in the house with a focus on

02:06:06.040 educational achievement he said every kid to enjoy that so part of the problem is we also have a

02:06:11.000 federal government that pays single women more not to have a man in the house than to have a man in the 0.99

02:06:16.920 house contributing to an epidemic of fatherlessness you can't do that education crisis as well because

02:06:23.960 we have to remember education starts with the family and the nuclear family is the greatest form of

02:06:28.920 governance known to mankind you said that even though you signed a ban on this in north dakota that

02:06:48.600 there hadn't been one instance where it was actually needed are you saying that you think that too much

02:06:54.120 is made of this issue no i'm saying in north dakota we made a priority of protecting women's sports and

02:06:59.880 we've done that in our state but i would absolutely do that but i do think when we start talking about

02:07:05.640 education and we think that we're going to have a federal government one size fits all we're just

02:07:10.200 completely losing track of the fact that education differs by states some some school districts are doing

02:07:16.200 a fantastic job some less so but the idea that every school district state and every teacher is

02:07:21.880 somehow indoctrinating people is just false whoa when i was building a company from scratch you know

02:07:26.680 with small town kids and we went you know grew up in a town of 300 but we built a global company

02:07:31.240 in 132 countries with over a hundred thousand customers we listened to those customers we spent

02:07:36.760 time with them we talked to them we did that and as governor well education is one of the biggest

02:07:41.560 part of a state budget so as a governor i go i shadow a student i don't the night before i find

02:07:46.600 out the students that the student finds out i'm going to go to every class with them i don't sit

02:07:51.080 and lecture school districts how to do it i go and see the experience and there's a lot of things that

02:07:54.680 have to change but what needs to change i'm sure they're going to be exactly who they are when you're

02:07:58.520 in the classroom we're doing it the same way we did it 50 years ago with innovation not regulation

02:08:03.560 i would get rid of the department of education i would give block grants to schools but i'd give them

02:08:07.720 on merit based on who's doing the most innovative i just got done holding the seventh annual

02:08:12.040 governor's conference on innovation education you should see what the people are doing when you

02:08:16.440 get you cut loose the red tape get the burden off their back they care teachers in this country

02:08:21.240 the vast majority of them care about those kids they're working in low-paying jobs and they're

02:08:25.880 fighting fighting for those kids and their families first i'll i'll tell you as you know as a parent the

02:08:35.400 one thing you want is for your child to have a better life than you did and we can talk about all

02:08:40.680 of these things and there's a lot of crazy woke things happening in schools but we've got to get

02:08:45.240 these kids reading if a child can't read by third grade they're four times less likely to graduate high

02:08:50.600 school so we need to make sure we bring in reading remediation all over this country we need transparency in

02:08:56.280 the classroom because parents should never have to wonder what's being said or taught to their children in

02:09:00.920 the classroom parents need to be deciding which schools their kids go to because they know best

02:09:07.000 and let's put vocational classes back into the high schools let's teach our kids to build things again

02:09:13.320 when we do that and we allow that innovation that's when it'll get back and yes i will always say

02:09:18.600 i'm going to fight for girls all day long because strong girls become strong women strong women

02:09:25.320 become strong leaders and biological boys don't belong in the locker rooms of any of our 0.96

02:09:29.800 okay we're going to start uh the lightning round and the first question is going to go

02:09:35.960 to you vice president so this is a lightning round of questions 30 second answers please

02:09:41.800 president biden will be 82 years old on inauguration day nearly 70 percent of americans say that he is too

02:09:49.720 old to serve should presidents have to pass a mental and physical test in order to serve vice president

02:09:57.560 pence well i it might be a good idea to have everybody in washington dc pass a mental and

02:10:06.040 but uh 30 seconds no the american people can make those judgments but let me say i'm running for

02:10:12.600 president in the united states because we don't need a president who's you care about ukraine and we don't

02:10:18.120 need a president who's too young we need a president who's been there we need a president who knows

02:10:23.960 how congress works how the white house works he's basically making the case for a career

02:10:30.280 i was fighting against no child left behind when republicans were doubling the department of

02:10:34.440 education i'll also shut down the federal department of education and when i was governor

02:10:39.240 we doubled the size of the largest school choice program in america and we'll give school choice to

02:10:46.280 every family in america so when i'm in the white house this is a lightning round mr ramaswamy i think

02:10:51.800 you were mentioned there you're 38 you're the youngest on the stage you've said and you just said

02:10:56.440 you want a civics test or public service for those under 25 to be able to vote so the question is do you

02:11:01.960 want a mental acuity test for presidents i said you i believe in the people of this country to tell

02:11:07.640 the difference between somebody who's an automaton and somebody who's actually a thinking agent in

02:11:11.240 the white house which we don't have in there today and i will tell you i want to address vice

02:11:15.240 president pence's comment i think we do need somebody of a different generation to lead this

02:11:20.520 nation forward look at the way i've run this campaign going to the south side of chicago to

02:11:25.640 kensington in the middle of philadelphia where traditional republican candidates don't go

02:11:30.440 we have an opportunity to build a multi-ethnic working class majority to deliver a landslide and i 0.99

02:11:36.120 think i'm the only candidate in this race young or old black or white to bring all of those voters

02:11:40.840 along to deliver a reagan 1980 revolution we're going to do it in 2024 i will answer that

02:11:50.760 i will answer that 30 seconds 30 seconds what are we fighting over everybody's going to have to

02:11:57.480 get control of this debate this is a lightning round not rolling thunder governor hutchinson you

02:12:04.280 have 30 seconds on the same question on education first of all look at arkansas we have to compete

02:12:09.880 with china i built computer science education we led the nation i actually think they're doing

02:12:15.080 okay education like going from 1100 students to 23 000 students taking it this is how you compete with

02:12:21.960 china as president of the united states i will make sure we go from 51 of our schools offering computer 0.94

02:12:28.360 science to every school in rural areas in urban areas offering computer science for the benefit of

02:12:34.440 our kids and we can compete with china in terms of technology thank you sir this is coming to you 1.00

02:12:42.600 um we're trying to do a quick round of different topics here so senator scott faith is on decline

02:12:49.240 in this country you talked about it a little bit before tonight so is there a role for a president of

02:12:54.760 the united states in changing that what would you do to change that well our nation was founded upon the

02:13:01.160 judeo-christian values that has made this the greatest nation on god's green earth i'm a big believer

02:13:06.280 in ephesians 320 that god is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or imagine

02:13:11.480 our responsibility should be to model the behavior we want others to follow on education the only way we

02:13:19.800 change education in this nation is to break the backs of the teachers unions they are standing in

02:13:26.840 the doorhouse of our kids locking them into failing schools and locking them out of the greatest future

02:13:34.920 they could have as president governor de santis would you support some mandatory military service

02:13:41.080 for all americans i think it should be voluntary i'm somebody that volunteered to serve inspired by

02:13:46.120 september 11th and i deployed to iraq uh alongside u.s navy seals in places like fallujah ramadi

02:13:53.800 and it's uh something that i think has taught me you know when you go in that type of environment

02:13:59.160 anything you have your personal agenda you check it out the door stuff gets you go there and it's

02:14:04.200 about focusing on the mission right above all else the entire movement was so boring before

02:14:09.160 getting done this is how i would view this is now like all of a sudden the united states it's not

02:14:14.120 about me it's not about all these other side issues my focus would have been here in 2012.

02:14:19.800 future and reversing this can we not take trump for granted ever again i mean this is all just the

02:14:25.320 same thing back and forth and back and forth governor christie do you believe that the recent spike

02:14:30.440 in ufo encounters okay we've been hearing a lot of we've been hearing a lot of testimony in congress

02:14:43.400 and people are taking this a lot more seriously and we're hearing that you know there are things

02:14:47.480 going on that people aren't aware of so if you were president are you a uap christian level with the

02:14:55.240 american people about what the government knows about these possible encounters and especially

02:15:01.880 coming from a woman from new jersey i i think it's horrible that just because i'm from new jersey you

02:15:07.800 asked me about unidentified flying objects and martians um we're different but we're not that different

02:15:15.240 look of course the job of the president united states is to level with the american people about

02:15:21.240 everything the job of the president united states is to stand for truth the job of the president united

02:15:29.160 states is to be a role model for our children and our grandchildren and so whether it was ufos

02:15:36.520 or this problem of education and tim's right by the way and i started this in 2010 by going right

02:15:43.000 after the teachers unions in new jersey and drove them down to an all-time low popularity rating because

02:15:48.120 they were putting themselves before our kids that is the biggest threat to our country not ufos okay 1.00

02:15:55.080 well coming up we've got closing arguments plus right after the debate hannity is live from the

02:16:01.160 spin room right here we're going to continue our stream too everybody so don't go anywhere we're

02:16:05.400 gonna all right so tyler can you elaborate who the heck is actually in the audience here i mean they're

02:16:12.120 applauding like when chris christie says we need to so like indict trump half the audience is applauding

02:16:17.880 who are these people yeah so let me so on the floor is the rnc and the rnc guest so that's the

02:16:25.800 floor that's like right in front of the stage that's where my empty seat is is right right in there so and

02:16:32.200 then along the wings you have all of the candidates have brought there as many people as they they could

02:16:38.920 i mean this is five-star forum this is where they play the milwaukee bucks games right so this is where i got carded by the

02:16:44.840 nba for standing up and uh and counting down to at yannis so this is a huge huge venue they could

02:16:53.000 basically have brought they could have filled this thing with like 20 000 people they only brought a

02:16:57.960 few thousand people a lot of few thousand people in and it's mostly campaign staff and supporters

02:17:03.560 so yeah so to the point that i think jack brought up or i think blake brought up here was like there's

02:17:08.840 no there's no trump supporters in that yes and these guys are still getting booed about trump stuff

02:17:14.840 so yeah so by each campaign gets tickets that's obvious right and but then but then also like the

02:17:20.920 very moderate consultants get a bunch of tickets it's so clear because i mean we know the base super

02:17:26.840 well the rnc has to answer for this this is not a republican debate donald trump has 60 percent

02:17:32.360 support in this primary six zero percent it's more than that charlie it's more of that because

02:17:39.800 of the undecided the front runner always gets about 50 of the undecided yes so yeah so so there's about

02:17:47.960 20 there's about 15 between 10 and 15 undecided so trump is really actually i've seen polls between

02:17:54.840 60 and 65 he's actually closer to 70 now at this point if based off of the historical precedence

02:18:01.400 of undecided voters jack you're here for a second then we're going to cut back in when they get back

02:18:06.520 jack yeah one thing i've noticed though is um clearly we're talking about candidates with

02:18:12.440 standouts it's going to be vivek but i've noticed that he and desantis have largely steered clear of

02:18:17.880 each other i think he had sort of a you know pre-planned nickname for him he keeps saying super

02:18:23.160 pack puppet super pack puppet which is it's okay i don't know if it really lands though because it's kind

02:18:28.280 of wonky i don't i just as a nickname the analysis there i just don't think it's a great nickname it's

02:18:33.400 something that you have to explain a couple of times and any nickname that you have to explain

02:18:36.920 isn't a very good one but that being said there really only seems to be one candidate who's got

02:18:41.960 any fight up there and that's vivek the other ones uh they only seem to well for some of them like asa

02:18:47.880 hutchinson and chris christie the only time they ever get actually activated is now obviously when chris

02:18:52.520 christie sees a cream puff or when he gets the opportunity to attack donald trump uh so you can

02:18:58.280 tell that these guys are absolutely being propped up by the same forces that want to see this ticket

02:19:04.520 split to stop trump from being able to to uh scoop up the nomination but at the same time you know

02:19:09.560 else i haven't heard from anyone an actual explanation of reading the room and understanding

02:19:14.760 that none of these candidates are anywhere near in contention for actually winning the presidency

02:19:21.080 it's like they're all going through this this situation like it like it's completely meaningless

02:19:25.560 and i just got to say you know what i i charlie look look i thought this when when disanus was

02:19:31.080 giving a speech last year at turning point he said it again does he not understand that the iraq war

02:19:35.960 is incredibly unpopular that americans do not see this as a positive thing that took place

02:19:43.240 at turning point action conference 95 of our attendees said no more money to ukraine

02:19:48.520 and they're all like shocked shocked that neoliberalism is on the way out on the way out

02:19:55.800 of the republican party are they coming back they gotta be because they're almost done and they have

02:20:00.600 to get closing statements in let's let's throw back to them guys not yet they're still doing uh ukraine

02:20:07.560 commercials not a joke actually i just i just want to say one thing i i cannot i can't get over i the most

02:20:15.560 surprising thing for me for me tonight is the lack of desantis's show up like he is just simply not

02:20:23.560 elevating this is not his medium i mean i want i love desantis in front of in in a press conference

02:20:30.120 like ripping on reporters when he's the man but when he has to compete for alpha status like i just it's

02:20:36.200 just not his medium and and and the guys on the team will tell you i'm very very favorable towards

02:20:41.560 favorable towards desantis in general and so i'm personally very surprised that desantis is just

02:20:48.920 simply not wowing me he's not having his his his breakout moment he's a good governor he's not good

02:20:55.400 at the one-upmanship or debate or any of that that's right all right yes

02:21:02.360 look there's managers and there's leaders i'm just going to say it boy there's managers and then

02:21:05.400 there's leaders okay let's let's cut back and then we're going to have a post stream

02:21:10.120 the second republican presidential debate on september 27th it looks pretty nice there 20 years ago 70

02:21:17.880 percent of american adults said they were extremely proud to be an american that number has now plummeted

02:21:25.720 to just 39 percent in his pitch to get to the oval office president reagan called america the shining

02:21:32.600 city on a hill a beacon of hope and optimism so in your closing statement tonight please tell

02:21:38.920 american voters why you are the person who can inspire this nation to a better day these are 45 seconds

02:21:47.400 and we begin with governor burgum i understand why america's hurting bines inflation is choking us

02:21:55.880 i grew up in a small town my dad died when i was freshman in high school my mom widow of three went

02:22:02.040 back to work every job i had growing up was one where i took a shower at the end of the day not

02:22:07.480 at the beginning of the day our cities are less safe because the fentanyl pouring into this country

02:22:14.040 our economy is being crushed by biden's energy policies which are raising the cost of every

02:22:19.000 product you buy not just the gasoline at the pump one thing that i'll do as president i'll secure

02:22:25.320 the border i'll get this economy sprinting not crawling like it is right now

02:22:29.480 and i would say that other thing is for sure when i'm on a horseback in the badlands of north dakota

02:22:36.520 it looks like the horizon is just limitless and when you can almost see beyond that horizon you can

02:22:42.040 see that this great country our future is unlimited but we've got to focus on innovation not regulation

02:22:48.040 we've got to cut the red tape we got to drive ourselves where the way we win the cold war with china 0.67

02:22:52.600 is by growing our economy and through innovation and as president i will bring out the best of america

02:22:59.480 i will improve every american life we hope you're back on your horse soon governor

02:23:05.400 governor hutchinson our nation is in trouble and it's in trouble because of failed leadership

02:23:11.720 and the solution is not four more years of joseph biden the solution is not four more years of donald

02:23:18.760 trump the solution is new leadership that can bring bold ideas to america and to bring out the best of

02:23:27.800 america a president's number one responsibility is to bring out the best of our people that's what

02:23:35.240 ronald reagan did and he did it with optimism and hope for our country with consistent conservatism

02:23:41.960 that's exactly what i bring as president i'll bring out the best of america in terms of individual

02:23:48.760 responsibility building our economy in terms of securing our border enforcing the rule of law

02:23:55.800 i'll bring out the best of america in terms of our national character our faith and our hope for the future

02:24:01.880 join in this fight asa2024.com thank you senator scott the website plug thank you i was a disillusioned

02:24:11.640 young man growing up in a single parent household mired in poverty i wondered if the american dream was

02:24:17.480 real for a kid like me i can stand before you today and say the dream is alive it is well and it is

02:24:25.080 healthy i had the good fortune of a mom who worked 16 hour days making sure we have food on our tables

02:24:30.360 she taught me that if you're able-bodied in america you work if you take out a loan you pay it back

02:24:36.040 you commit a violent crime you go to jail and if god made you a man you play sports against men

02:24:46.120 i'm tim scott i'm asking you for your vote and if you're in iowa i'm asking you to caucus for me

02:24:51.960 you can go to vote tim scott.com for more information or to make a contribution

02:24:56.840 governor christy but wait there's more thank you brett thank you martha look everybody on this stage

02:25:04.760 wants to be the next president united states and the only way that's going to happen is if we beat

02:25:09.720 joe biden i'm the only one on this stage who's ever beaten the democratic incumbent in election

02:25:15.080 i did it in a deep blue state being outspent three to one beating a democratic incumbent is not easy the

02:25:22.040 last democratic incumbent president who was defeated was jimmy carter and he was defeated

02:25:27.400 by a conservative governor from a blue state who knew how to get results who stood for the truth

02:25:34.280 who cared about accountability and stood strong and hard against waste those are the very things that i

02:25:40.680 did in my eight years as governor of new jersey and it's exactly what i'll do as president united states

02:25:47.000 believe me the democrats want some other nominee who's never beaten the democratic incumbent i'm

02:25:53.640 the one who can win this race and if you give me the chance i will restore our country by winning it

02:25:58.520 thank you governor haley

02:26:03.640 several weeks ago i dropped my husband michael a combat veteran from afghanistan

02:26:09.400 off at 4 a.m for another year-long deployment

02:26:11.960 i watched him and 230 soldiers pick up their two duffel bags of belongings to go to a country they

02:26:19.720 had never been all in the name of protecting america if they are willing to protect us from there

02:26:28.040 we should be willing to fight for america here i will beat joe biden and he knows that i will strengthen

02:26:34.760 our economy and we'll bring this inflation down we will put transparency in the classroom we will secure

02:26:40.360 our borders we will have the backs of our law enforcement and we will make sure we have a strong

02:26:45.480 national security and once again we will make sure we have an america that is strong and proud

02:26:51.480 we have a country to save join us go to nikkihaley.com and let's get it done

02:26:56.280 vice president pass and she definitely brought in her supporters thank you brad and martha for this

02:27:06.360 evening it's an honor to be here joe biden has weakened america at home and abroad

02:27:13.960 the disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan their war on energy runaway spending that launched the

02:27:20.440 worst inflation in 40 years a crisis at our southern border an assault on our values and liberties

02:27:25.960 and the american people have had enough i need that pillow jack but i know we can bring it back

02:27:30.440 but different times called for different leadership the republican party owes the american people the

02:27:35.560 choice proven leadership at the national level that knows how to move a conservative agenda forward

02:27:42.280 we proved in the trump pence years you can turn this country around faster than you can imagine

02:27:46.360 and i have faith we will again because i have faith in the american people

02:27:49.960 this good decent hard-working faith-filled ideas like a regular country and i have faith

02:27:55.240 i know when they get in there like done with america and if we will renew our faith in one another

02:28:00.520 and renew our faith in him who has ever guided this nation since we arrived on these wilderness shores

02:28:07.640 i know the best days for the greatest nation on earth are yet to come thank you mr ramaswamy

02:28:13.640 i was born in 1985 and i grew up into a generation where we were taught

02:28:18.600 to celebrate our diversity and our differences so much that we forgot all of the ways we are really

02:28:26.040 just the same as americans bound by a common set of ideals that set this nation into motion in 1776

02:28:33.560 so diversity is not our strength to revive those common ideals god is real there are two genders 0.99

02:28:40.680 fossil fuels are a requirement for human prosperity reverse racism is racism an open border is not a

02:28:48.280 border parents determine the education of their children the nuclear family is the greatest form of

02:28:54.920 governance known to man capitalism lifts us up from poverty there are three branches of government

02:29:02.840 not four and the u.s constitution it is the strongest guarantor of freedom in human history that is what

02:29:10.040 won us the american revolution that is what will win us the revolution of 2024 thanks for letting me

02:29:16.440 introduce myself tonight thank you governor this is our time for choosing we will send joe biden back

02:29:33.560 to his i just forgot he was at the debate decline of this country i'm a blue-collar kid i work minimum

02:29:39.640 wage jobs to be able to make ends meet i understand the importance of the american dream and i know how

02:29:45.320 that slipped away from so many millions of americans will restore it i'm a veteran who served in iraq i

02:29:50.680 know what it means to put service above self i'm also a dad and a husband of six five and three-year-old

02:29:56.280 i understand the importance of protecting parents rights and the well-being of our children in florida

02:30:01.880 we showed it could be done i made promises and i delivered on all of those promises 2024 is make or

02:30:09.080 break we're not getting a mulligan no excuses i will get the job done and as your president i will

02:30:15.720 not let you down god bless you all god bless you all please man did he did he did he just say

02:30:23.320 most games tonight and thank you to milwaukee he did thank you everybody we will see you on the

02:30:28.760 campaign trail from debates to primaries to the general did asa hutchinson get a closing statement

02:30:33.800 i get i don't even remember all right let's let's cut okay well that was quite a thing

02:30:41.000 welcome everybody now that the debate is over we are going to give you our thoughts let's just

02:30:47.320 talk about the obvious the republican party without trump is a total disaster jack posobic

02:30:55.640 charlie you know one of the things and i i said this on the show uh on human events earlier this week

02:31:01.800 that you know i was really looking forward to tonight was okay this is a look at the bench

02:31:06.200 right four years from now five years from now six years whatever it is president trump after his

02:31:11.320 second term you know we're going to be looking at the republican bench we're going to be looking at

02:31:14.920 the movement and supposedly these are the brightest luminaries and i got to tell you some of them look

02:31:20.040 like burned out bulbs up there sitting or like a you know a smoke detector with the battery hasn't been

02:31:25.560 changed i mean this is the best we have really i mean i see i see some i i will say i see some lights i

02:31:31.720 see some interest there but uh by and large this does not look like a good bench and i think that

02:31:38.040 the republican party really needs to get its act together and start attracting new blood into the

02:31:43.880 system because quite frankly if this is all we got we're going to get absolutely bored going into 2028

02:31:50.680 i thought i thought that could become a regional party again i thought vivek was andrew by far the

02:31:57.480 winner of the debate he understood and read the room the best and the base and he's going to be the

02:32:03.880 um he's going to be the great beneficiary here andrew yeah i think i think a couple things i i think uh

02:32:11.640 vivek hands down stood out tonight i think uh unpopular this is thought crime don't don't shoot

02:32:18.120 the messenger it's just my opinion i think despite sounding like a complete neocon you know 90s early

02:32:24.520 2000s republican i thought haley had a couple good moments i actually agree with that no objectively

02:32:30.120 i agree i think you're right yeah i think i think christy actually was entertaining uh this is something

02:32:35.800 that gets uh under blake's craw a little bit that that we want somebody who can entertain and kind of

02:32:41.880 hold the stage i mean is that a qualification to be president no not on its face but if you combine

02:32:49.560 that with know-how and experience sure i thought i thought christy had a couple good moments um yeah

02:32:54.840 but i would say i would say vivek uh hayley christy they all stood out to me i was entertained when

02:33:01.880 they were honestly i liked when mike pence got on almost almost as like a foil though i again go back

02:33:08.040 to this point i cannot get over how much ron desantis completely did not show up and again you guys know

02:33:16.520 me in the chats uh the audience doesn't necessarily know my my all of my personal opinions i really

02:33:23.080 really like desantis uh i've since i i was wavering on whether or not i was a trump or desantis guy

02:33:30.040 early in january february i think like a lot of the base we were sort of expecting to do more we had

02:33:34.680 some conversations all right back around this time i remember some late i know i i i know our audience

02:33:40.360 gonna like hate me for that conversations about that yeah i i know the audience gonna hate me for that

02:33:45.000 but i'm just being honest like i i wasn't sure okay i i would say around march or april i went back

02:33:51.400 to saying like listen trump's got this he's got it and and i'm really disappointed i was really

02:33:57.240 disappointed when desantis did not come out with alvin bragg when that indictment fell down and did not

02:34:03.720 stand up and say something very strong instead he kind of i think that was it that was the end of his

02:34:08.520 campaign yep yeah that he he ended it right there for me and i remember i had a reporter call and i

02:34:13.240 said listen you mark my words his his polling is going to drop 20 10 i said 10 to 15 maybe even

02:34:20.040 20 percent people laughed at you and you remember people thought that you were i mean like oh but we

02:34:24.120 know the base we speak to the base every single day they thought they thought i was i was overstating

02:34:30.040 the issue and i wasn't and so again as somebody that wants to retain desantis as a viable candidate for

02:34:37.400 2028 i want to see him excel i want to see him have these great moments i want to see him nip at

02:34:43.480 the heels of trump i still think this is trump's moment i've become i've become convinced that this

02:34:48.200 is trump's moment i want to see him nip at the heels and i'm just not seeing that that's my biggest

02:34:52.760 surprise i'm not surprised that vivek came out as articulate and commanding and i but i was surprised

02:34:58.200 that the other candidates came after him as much as they did i will say that because he was

02:35:02.280 sort of alpha you know you know on that stage and they were coming after him uh i don't know uh

02:35:08.040 that that's my take i'm just surprised i'm surprised that desantis can't rise to this occasion

02:35:14.200 glenn greenwald has a great tweet jack why don't you read it because we're getting so many messages

02:35:17.880 about the audience and tyler i want you to chime in here and and remember president trump called this

02:35:23.240 out when on the very same topic when president trump was attacking the i think it was at the reagan

02:35:30.120 library it was a library yes and he was calling out jeb well really actually no so he was in it

02:35:36.920 with jeb and then he was calling out george w bush and he said your brother lied to us and got us into

02:35:44.120 the iraq war lying about wmds then the entire audience turns on him the entire audience is booing

02:35:50.760 and then trump goes that's all your donors that's what the rnc does they put your donors in here listen

02:35:57.240 to this glenn greenwald who was at the debate tonight sitting i believe next to merger taylor

02:36:01.960 green oh good uh glenn greenwald just tweeted all the seats that were that are heard on tv in the

02:36:08.760 middle at the front so where the microphones are so in the very front you're where those microphones

02:36:13.320 are they're reserved for big gop donors trump pointed out in 2016 when anyone criticizing jeb got

02:36:21.560 booed the party establishment connived to maintain control we should see if we could actually find that

02:36:26.360 clip i see tyler's got his his pieces of flair required pieces of flair sir required pieces of

02:36:33.240 like a flair right there did we did we spend 17 million dollars on that at turning point action

02:36:40.040 that this is this cost me a dollar to make i made i made this for a dollar and i wore it and i think it's

02:36:46.760 going to save the rnc maybe 10 of our fundraising budget if it was successful so so i i i made i thought

02:36:54.920 tonight that desantis was going to get attacked the way that the vague got attacked because i thought

02:37:00.360 desantis was going to have to step up desantis was nowhere to be found in this debate he took this so

02:37:06.760 pedestrian i think so pedestrian he's going to drop even more in the polls the vague came out as a

02:37:12.920 fighter so he was the one that got attacked but chris christie did exactly what i thought he was going

02:37:17.480 to do he tried to dominate the stage i think it makes him hated he's the villain he's the villain of

02:37:22.920 this story and everybody else is kind of like forgettable nobody remember nobody even thinks

02:37:27.640 about nikki haley nobody thinks about tim scott so i mean the vague is going to come out and and

02:37:32.920 probably bounce like five percent i think out of this thing yeah yeah go ahead if you made a list of

02:37:39.560 the top 10 moments in this debate would would desantis even be in any of them i i suspect no he

02:37:46.280 just felt invisible to me to be honest and yeah it's that's what he needed it's what he didn't need

02:37:52.040 doesn't have moments yeah it's just he didn't need that he didn't need that that the desantis 0.75

02:37:58.760 need to show up and show that he's presidential material and i disagree with andrew andrew said

02:38:03.240 that we need desantis to be well i'm not disagreeing with andrew but andrew said we need desantis to be

02:38:08.920 the guy for 2028 i i'm telling you right now everything i'm seeing at desantis he's the candidate

02:38:14.520 from 2000 2012 there's no way he's ever going to get there he's never going to be the guy no i'd say

02:38:20.760 i think he's definitively done one he i don't think you're gonna fix like asperger syndrome and

02:38:27.480 two like it's just he's going to have a 15 percent approval rating when all is said and done that's

02:38:34.360 just how it happens this is how it unfolds within the republican party now and i think growing the

02:38:39.000 beard by the way no i just i'm in south dakota and i didn't bring a razor with me so yeah that's right

02:38:44.600 uh grow a mustache grow up and all right do we have some vivek clips i think we do right we got

02:38:52.840 some and by the way there are some spicy vivek nikki hayley memes very spicy vivek nikki memes but

02:39:00.360 we're not we're not show them we will not show them wait wait no you can't no charlie i didn't send

02:39:05.400 that to you for um for the uh purposes of uh for the uh for that no we're gonna i'm actually gonna

02:39:11.640 go back and delete that now it's very very spicy i already saved that was an accident i didn't mean

02:39:18.760 to send that i already saved it i don't know what you're talking about so um charlie has an alternate

02:39:27.240 twitter twitter and telegram channel that no one will ever know i feel bad leaving our audience out of

02:39:32.120 these play cut 99. this play cut 99 vivek the slayer lord indras more people are dying of bad

02:39:40.200 climate change policies than they are of actual climate change governor hey are you

02:39:50.760 hold on hold on i've had enough i've had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like chat gpt

02:39:58.040 standing up here his best moment and the last person in one of these debates brett who stood in

02:40:05.960 the middle of the stage and said what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was barack

02:40:12.040 obama and i'm afraid we're dealing with the same type of amateur standing stage tonight

02:40:16.520 come on give me a hug give me a hug just like you did to obama the same type of amateur and you'll 1.00

02:40:22.440 help elect me just like you did to obama too give me that same type of i love the give me a hug i love

02:40:29.480 the give me a hug just like obama like obama and help him win their election let's play cut uh 98 let's

02:40:35.320 keep going let's keep going through it there was a meme flash no then we'll do the meme flash because

02:40:46.280 it's gone it's like snapchat it's like it's snapchat it shows it for two seconds and go

02:40:51.320 and then go if you're listening on podcast i don't know this is so bad just not gonna make it play cut

02:41:00.760 98. lord indra strike down these neocons play 98. no no not 98 97. not that crap play 97.

02:41:13.000 let us be honest as republicans i'm the only person on the stage who isn't bought and paid for so i can 0.95

02:41:17.720 say this the climate change agenda is a hoax the climate change agenda is a hoax and we have to

02:41:24.520 declare independence and the reality is the anti-carbon agenda is the wet blanket on our economy

02:41:32.040 so what are they booing exactly were they booing the idea that he wasn't the only one bought or were

02:41:37.240 they booing the climate change thing anybody i think i i think he was booed i think they were booing again

02:41:43.640 the donors remember what what was said right the donors are the front row and so he was saying

02:41:49.640 everybody here is bought and paid for and so the donors are going boo vivek i'm never going to

02:41:56.920 support vivek i support nikki like that's the first three rows right like that's why nikki has an

02:42:02.680 overwhelming presence here nikki remember his best friends with rana nikki nikki's like rana's bff

02:42:09.560 they like literally talk all the time so she has like a significant overwhelming presence in this in

02:42:14.920 this stadium it's crazy yeah i mean one of the one of the top one of the top things i've received

02:42:21.560 emails is just how disgusting the audience is how the audience is just configured cut 107 lot this was

02:42:30.840 like cut 107 this is live vivek responds to criticisms about his honor play cut 107

02:42:36.680 that was uh simultaneously both pence and chris christie on the ground you know it's christy

02:43:00.680 he can't get back oh my goodness that's chris christie going for the munchkins

02:43:11.560 it's okay we're on rumble blake we're not on radio oh my gosh i shouldn't laugh that hard

02:43:16.920 all right so hey i want to address i want to address something with vivek i'm getting a lot of this

02:43:21.080 i think uh blake you were mentioning you were in a chat that was having this response to vivek i mean a

02:43:25.560 lot of people and and there was actually some some comments charlie in your twitter feed

02:43:30.520 about how vivek comes off kind of like a young whippersnapper like a twerp uh i think that chat gpt

02:43:37.240 who uses that kind of language yeah what's that jack no i'm sorry i was just saying yeah there's a

02:43:44.120 there's a there i think there's a generational thing right that that same type of language

02:43:47.880 you know this guy comes across like a young whippersnapper i mean like look at the people on

02:43:53.080 this show right now right you know i don't think any of us are over 40 right um so to be clear

02:43:59.560 this was young friends of mine who were saying this they're all in like my age range and they were

02:44:04.040 it was that like it seemed like that he was interrupting a lot throughout the debate more

02:44:08.440 than other people and that the one line a friend of mine said is it was like he was really he was like

02:44:13.960 an aggressive salesman he was trying to sell me something in a way that he was not entirely

02:44:19.000 flattering on the other hand i have a friend whose wife until tonight did not know that trump had

02:44:24.680 been indicted and she thought vivek was great so we can take that for for what i think the takeaway

02:44:31.800 is total chaos vivek won but like there's no winner because trump is up 50 right yeah right so yeah but

02:44:39.480 vivek showed something really important i think the turning point for trump back in 2015 2016 was when

02:44:49.560 when trump showed that he could take on all these people at the same time so vivek was up there

02:44:55.320 vivek was up there taking on mike pence and taking on chris christie and taking on nikki haley and so i'm

02:45:03.160 telling you right now what's going to come out of this is people are going to go oh my gosh i really like

02:45:07.640 vivek you know why because he smiled and laughed at chris fat chris christie while he was going after

02:45:13.480 him he smiled and laughed at nikki haley who's a neocon who was like arguing for ukraine and more war

02:45:20.840 he smiled and laughed at mike pence because mike pence said i'll go slower for you because

02:45:25.240 little brown man like this is like so bad it was like you what are you the help vivek like whoa

02:45:31.640 oh my god it reminded me of that oh go ahead tyler go ahead i was just gonna say this one thing

02:45:43.480 remember on the view when what's your face osborne was like donald trump if you kick out all the

02:45:49.640 mexicans who's gonna clean your toilet it was like a much more it was a much more nuanced thing but it

02:45:56.200 was like basically mike pence did the same thing in a much more nuanced way which was like i'll go 0.98

02:46:01.400 slower for you you dumb little like oh my god in a serious country most of these candidates would 0.97

02:46:07.800 actually be scrubbing toilets rather than anywhere near their presidency but when it really comes down 0.99

02:46:13.160 to it i think one of the reasons that vivek and and maybe this you know isn't for isn't for everybody

02:46:18.920 and i get that but i think one of the reasons that he's able to resonate is that he's actually like

02:46:24.760 some of these candidates talk about like it's some kind of bygone era like it's the 1980s and

02:46:29.640 oh we're just going to focus on the debt ceiling and we're going to focus on on tax reform but he

02:46:34.600 actually seems like he's dealing with the country as it currently is he feels like he actually lives

02:46:41.080 in the world and is talking about things that are going on all around us i mean he's the only one

02:46:46.200 who actually addressed the prosecution of trump in the way that i think it deserves wait what's funny

02:46:51.720 it's funny this is so good show that ryan put it up on screen a new picture has been found uh in the

02:46:59.320 archives oh no oh no in 1992 donald trump was trying to build a trump tower new deli oh no

02:47:05.880 and when he was when he was when he was trying to build uh trump tower new deli he bends over to a

02:47:14.040 very off awfully impressive young man and says one day you will fight my fights for me you will be my

02:47:23.080 vice president okay all right i think so i think do go ahead break well i think there is a question that

02:47:29.640 will emerge there is a question that that has to come out here which is like okay vivek did the

02:47:35.400 best here desantis didn't do great so let's say that plays out desantis drops in the polls vivek

02:47:42.120 goes up gains momentum we actually have to look towards a reality where vivek is polling at

02:47:46.920 25 30 percent oh yeah absolutely about the narrative he's rising and so the question that

02:47:52.680 they didn't ask him at this debate and i wish someone would ask him is one like okay vivek you're

02:47:58.280 the most pro-trump guy of all these candidates why are you running against trump what is you

02:48:03.240 what is your reason to people vote for you over trump and i'd kind of be interested in seeing that

02:48:09.400 and i do wonder how does how does this entire primary play out if suddenly like now you actually

02:48:14.680 have to pick between vivek and trump and it's not just vivek as this like trump cheerleader mascot

02:48:21.000 yeah but then in a field of 10 people then trump does what trump does and vivek will go down i'm

02:48:26.680 just being yeah but then i do wonder what will that look like you know we've said all these nice

02:48:30.760 things about vivek and then trump says something funny about vivek's h1b visa expiring and then it's

02:48:36.280 just like you know blows up all of his popularity and then where are we then i don't know okay i i

02:48:44.280 mean let's play a piece of tape you know oh you're gonna go to a piece of tape go ahead i i was gonna make

02:48:49.080 one point though i mean do we you know trump said he kind of joked on true social that he wanted to

02:48:54.040 watch the first debate so that he could pick up see if any of them would make a decent vice president

02:48:58.680 candidate now charlie you have publicly floated two names i think prominently ron johnson and byron

02:49:04.840 donalds yeah byron donalds and ron johnson yeah ron johnson kind of we we say it's a superpower because

02:49:11.080 he's like super base but he's boring and can talk to like the the people that were in that audience

02:49:17.320 right that the the donor class get ron johnson that could go like play around a golf with him

02:49:22.360 at the country club uh but he's very very based he's on our team um and the byron donalds besides

02:49:29.720 that do we i mean do we have any clarity if you're donald trump tonight do you look at that audience do

02:49:34.920 you look at that that that stage and you say who who could be my number two who could be my running

02:49:40.680 mate none of them not a single one of them none of them not even vivek your best your best people

02:49:49.720 up there are desantis who's 2012 you have vivek who's 2032 you have nikki nikki haley who is a distant 0.75

02:49:58.680 third in my opinion at this 2000 and everybody else is is weak is way too weak to and and and useless

02:50:06.680 uh let's play sorry i was yeah let's hear this this was probably vivek's best moment and honestly

02:50:16.520 the part that i was looking forward to which is the foreign policy contrast play cut 111 credits of

02:50:21.400 a vague ramaswamy this takes courage and he was clear about it and all the other neoliberals

02:50:26.520 they're all on board for ukraine first play cut 111 the u.s has committed nearly 77 billion dollars in

02:50:33.160 aid to the ukraine war the administration is now asking congress for 24 billion dollars more

02:50:39.960 regardless of that the specific specifics of that plan is there anyone on stage who would not

02:50:47.320 support the increase of more funding to ukraine we would not support it europe needs to step up i mean

02:50:54.680 i would have europe step up and do their job mr ramaswamy anyone want to take this blake you know

02:51:03.320 your own personal feeling aside this is significant only one candidate really stands with 95 of the

02:51:08.120 voters well it really does it stood out to me the most that even on this like very easy thing

02:51:14.040 that desantis is just not like he's like not alert enough or not paying close enough attention to the

02:51:18.920 questions so he just sort of he has to pause and sort of awkwardly raise his hand and so he just gets

02:51:24.520 wrecked on this extremely easy thing because vivek has the energy to just throw his hand up really

02:51:29.480 quickly and nope i win this question now because i put my hand up the fastest and that stood out what

02:51:36.760 that's what stood out the most to me is that like this is an easy freebie where you could have at least

02:51:42.040 tied vivek on it and instead you just you just let vivek run away with it and he's like awkwardly being

02:51:47.640 like europe europe has to step up more so wait do you what do you even want and it just looked very

02:51:54.840 blah for him and that was what that's what the debate was over and over for desantis it's not that

02:51:59.800 his answers were specifically horrible they just weren't they just weren't very good i so i screenshotted

02:52:05.720 that um on twitter and it it's being i mean it's going pretty hyper viral right now because and i don't

02:52:12.200 know if we have it oh yeah the picture yeah yeah yeah we have it let's put that up this moment do we have

02:52:16.520 the actual picture that's yeah i got it i put it i'm grabbing it i put it in it because this is

02:52:21.400 this really is all right well we'll talk about it but i i think that when you saw that it was a natural

02:52:29.320 reaction and obviously there are so many moments within these debates that are pre-scripted that

02:52:34.440 are pre-panned every debate does it every every candidate does it and i i really do think by the

02:52:40.520 way that towards the end of the debate i think desantis was getting tired i think he was getting gassed

02:52:44.200 and there it is his final um his closer was quite scripted so this is a this is a and i wrote this

02:52:50.680 is the difference between a hand raise and a limp wrist and so you can see the two candidates of which

02:52:58.040 i'm referring uh one has his hand raised just the normal way someone raised their hand and the other one

02:53:04.120 is sort of flippantly in the middle you know flailing his wrist around saying well i want europe

02:53:12.840 to do and it it exactly matches so his body language here actually matches his answer which is his true

02:53:19.000 answer where he's not saying he he doesn't have the ability to come down on one side or the other on

02:53:25.480 ukraine because on one hand he wants to win the nomination and on the other hand he is absolutely

02:53:32.280 beholden to super pack donors and vivek ramaswamy is right about this he's beholden to these donors

02:53:37.640 who will not let him say that he is beholden to them and so he's caught in this weird sort of you

02:53:44.520 know phantom zone where he can't actually come out and say what needs to be said about ukraine

02:53:50.520 yeah okay let's play another piece of tape i don't have a comment here we're gonna go for a little

02:53:55.320 bit longer not too much longer because we all have shows tomorrow but um tyler please i was just

02:54:02.520 gonna say um you know i think coming out of this thing now you have clear you basically have a clear

02:54:10.200 four people i think everybody's gonna dismiss chris christie as like a reasonable candidate

02:54:14.760 like even people that like him back east and in the northeast you've got you've got vivek you've

02:54:20.920 got uh nikki haley you've got tim scott you've got mike pence and you've got ronda sandis so you

02:54:27.400 got five and i think that's probably if if the rnc's smart they'll they'll narrow the field so they

02:54:32.600 they actually have a debate uh in the in the future and maybe can get trump there uh but they're not

02:54:38.600 going to do that and so what i think is going to end up happening is you're going to see more divide

02:54:43.000 uh i i think people are going to really come away from this thing and go i miss trump i want to see

02:54:49.000 trump i want to see more of trump uh like i'm really angry at you know the party for not making

02:54:55.000 this happen the right way and if trump's smart he's going to have a really important stage tomorrow to

02:55:00.120 say you know i really would have liked to be there i think vivek did a really nice job i think xyz

02:55:05.800 his you know his normal responses but you know i have to be able to not just get attacked 24 7

02:55:13.080 by my own party and so when you can create that that that ecosystem that space and environment for

02:55:18.600 me uh where we can actually have a debate about the policies and issues that i've been talking about

02:55:22.760 since day one uh then then i'll come but i don't think he's gonna i don't think he's gonna do that

02:55:28.120 until they can demonstrate that i don't think the rnc is capable of doing that i really don't

02:55:32.680 yeah and i mean tyler just to go back i just want to remind our audience drumbeat the basic stuff the

02:55:37.480 staffing and ballot chasing that's what should have received a ton of attention not you know

02:55:43.240 whoever's opinions on excuse me charlie you're exactly right where where was where was the

02:55:49.640 where was the discussion of how we're actually going to win in 2024 where was the discussion of

02:55:54.440 of ballot chasing ballot harvesting that would have been a really good question right discussion

02:55:59.080 where's the discussion of of election point let me actually let me talk about january 6 but where's

02:56:04.200 the question of of challenges of getting these votes these these states done you know we're

02:56:09.320 talking strategy here but we haven't even focused at all on the actual logistics and tactics of

02:56:14.680 winning an election in the real world rather than saying oh i'm president i'm gonna do this yeah when

02:56:20.040 i'm president everyone can have free ice cream but how the frick i really i really want to election

02:56:24.760 i want to blow up a bit about that or it's like i think it's not going to come up but like fox 0.96

02:56:29.880 should get some crap for you know i know they did their best to you know manage the debate but i 0.79

02:56:35.000 thought the questions were actually very bad and not just like but it was it was like often they were 0.97

02:56:42.440 trying it was what cnn or something would often do to try to set up republicans like one they throw in

02:56:48.040 this like big abortion question to like really hot box them and be like are you going to sign

02:56:53.160 your six-week ban federally which is exactly what cnn does in 2012 where it's like objectively we just

02:56:59.320 know that's not going to happen and so they're only doing this so they can be like the extreme

02:57:03.960 republican party won't stop talking about abortion but like we don't have a question that's like what

02:57:09.560 are you going to do at the federal level over people having their kids like taken by the california

02:57:14.440 state government to tranny them precisely or like on immigration happens though like i mean look i i will

02:57:20.680 say with it i think brett and martha given the marching orders from corporate did a good job

02:57:24.280 better at regulating the fire but blake why do we not have questions the republican voters care

02:57:30.840 most about this is a republican primary debate right blake yeah you'd think uh but even even if it's

02:57:37.960 not what you know most of them because i feel like most of them would say what do you want to hear about

02:57:41.000 and they would be like i want to hear about how they're gonna stop the indictment of donald trump

02:57:45.560 which okay throw in the question about that and they kind of did like they asked about pardons but they

02:57:49.560 all should have asked like i do i do think tv debates are kind of horrible because they're

02:57:55.320 designed for very canned statements they're designed for sound bites and they're designed

02:58:00.280 to just suck but you could at least try and be like okay you say you're gonna stop you know the 0.69

02:58:05.880 weaponization of the doj what are you going to do besides one of them said like i'm day one i'm gonna 0.99

02:58:10.600 fire merrick garland merrick garland is a democrat ag he'll probably resign anyway like who cares oh i'm

02:58:17.240 gonna fire anthony fauci fauci's like 84 years old he'll probably be dead in 2025 why are we

02:58:23.320 worrying about the government anymore yeah he's probably already retired i think that was mike

02:58:28.760 pence wasn't it and he said he was gonna fire chris ray it was just there was definitely someone

02:58:33.640 who was gonna fire fauci and there was definitely firing merrick garland in there and just yeah tim

02:58:38.680 scott tim scott said it just wouldn't stop garland like is that tim scott all right yeah like you're

02:58:43.720 gonna appoint a different attorney general like like here's a question they could have asked yeah

02:58:49.320 like here's something i would love to know thousand appointees what about the other four yeah if we 0.71

02:58:53.800 want to put some heat on vivek just be like vivek what's your policy on legal immigration like that

02:58:58.600 would be fun for people to know because you know we've asked him that and he's like been like i'm not

02:59:03.240 you know i wasn't sure yet and i'd love to know that i'd love to have them talk about that and there's a

02:59:09.480 lot of issues you can ask about and be like hey republican candidates give us your 15 second spiel

02:59:15.000 on what you want to do and instead like it's we deliberately are leaning into the lamest soundbite

02:59:22.120 version of gop politics and yeah no surprise if you do that you're going to get a really lame

02:59:27.160 soundbite version of gop politics and it's going to be unbearable because none of these guys are as

02:59:31.480 entertaining as donald trump is donald trump can make any debate exciting like we could at least

02:59:37.480 i don't know i just i hate so i hate debates so much honestly though i i thought that the one

02:59:42.680 inch that one instance and jack i actually would love your perspective as like you know the catholic vote

02:59:47.320 and tyler is you know the kind of like uh you know the all there's latter day saint vote and like

02:59:53.400 well i i i yeah exactly right yeah there's the the certain certain variations of catholic i get that but

02:59:59.480 i i did actually find myself keying in on this abortion uh topic and a lot of them sort of like

03:00:08.200 hemmed and hawed nobody was willing to sort of like take a very firm line is was my impression

03:00:14.200 uh but you know i do think it's an open question for how do you handle it right i mean and i actually

03:00:20.120 i go back to trump during the cnn town hall with caitlin collins when he said you know listen

03:00:26.600 it's a very sticky issue acknowledge the fact that it's a sticky issue and then he said i'm

03:00:31.320 going to make the best deal for both sides i mean that's a very trump answer but i and i understand

03:00:37.080 that that leaves a lot of wiggle room but i think that's what he wants and i think we all understand

03:00:40.360 that about trump i don't know at this point as somebody who's deep into the weeds on this how

03:00:46.680 we're going to handle the abortion topic when these when these uh propositions are getting shot down 0.93

03:00:52.600 across the country i think it's a i think it's an open political question i know we're all pro-life

03:00:57.160 here but how do we handle it politically i don't have clarity after this tonight so jack you just put

03:01:02.520 something on telegram and we're gonna go about ten five or ten more minutes probably five more minutes

03:01:05.960 jack read us what you just put on telegram it's really smart look i'm just gonna say this uh wait

03:01:11.720 i put a couple things on telegram but do you mean about the thing the last one donald trump is being

03:01:16.360 arrested okay yeah so donald trump is being arrested by the democrats tomorrow for the fourth time and

03:01:24.760 the candidates were up there shouting about school choice this is help me understand help me understand

03:01:31.240 if this is where we are like do you understand what time it is do you understand what part of the

03:01:36.520 movie we are in this is not the beginning of the movie where everyone's trying to have a conversation

03:01:42.280 and figure out what's going on no this is open political warfare this is this is the opposition

03:01:49.880 candidate being put in change he's going to get a mug shot tomorrow he's actually going to be put up

03:01:55.240 against a wall and have his photo taken like a common criminal and you've got members of his own

03:02:00.760 party up there acting like like it's all it's like it's all completely normal normal course of business

03:02:05.640 it's a joke it's an absolute joke and i'm i'm i'm i'm this close to fed posting about it

03:02:12.920 let's go around the horn and andrew we're going to talk about this on our show tomorrow jack will as

03:02:16.520 well but we really didn't talk much about the tucker trump interview what is the initial reaction

03:02:21.640 andrew on the tucker trump interview well i said it before to to blake's point where he was talking

03:02:27.560 about how the questions just didn't address the heart of the issue i give tucker credit i i thought

03:02:34.280 his promo was maybe better than the interview itself i have to say his promo had everybody

03:02:39.320 salivating over watching this thing uh but i think it was i think some of the stuff i mean tucker asked

03:02:44.120 trump it's loaded as 113 uh if you're asking charles a longer clip we could play it but do you

03:02:49.240 think we're moving towards civil war i mean he asked about epstein he asked about do you think are

03:02:54.440 you worried about getting assassinated um i mean he asked some very very pointed questions uh and so

03:03:01.080 like hat tip to to tucker carlson i think he asked the right questions i think you know whether or not

03:03:06.600 trump's answer satisfied i think it's up to the audience i don't know yet i'm i kind of i'm gonna

03:03:11.320 disagree there where i think the temptation everyone falls into with trump is they'll ask him you know

03:03:17.960 do you worry about getting assassinated do you work like what do you what's your thing on epstein

03:03:21.480 uh what's your thing on jfk and they'll ask that because it's like well trump's a really wild guy

03:03:27.400 who says a lot of interesting things so if we also take the most wild interesting questions and make him

03:03:32.600 answer that we'll get something amazing and it really almost never happens because he'll kind of

03:03:37.160 just divert and talk about something else insanely disciplined about the like 10 12 wild topics that's

03:03:43.640 what people actually don't like he's way more disciplined than even like your typical politician

03:03:48.840 for sure and to complete the thought what actually where you get the most interesting trump things is

03:03:56.360 someone good uh where you get the most interesting stuff it's not mine uh it's where you get the most

03:04:03.160 interesting stuff is you'll get the most interesting trump takes when you ask him like about policy stuff

03:04:09.160 like what's the most famous stuff he did in 2016 oh what's my solution on immigration i'm gonna build a

03:04:13.720 wall and mexico's going to pay for the wall or this cycle where they ask him about you know drugs 0.96

03:04:19.080 coming over the border and he just sort of wings it yeah we're gonna we're gonna execute the drug

03:04:23.960 dealers and you know all those people i released from prison under criminal justice reform if they

03:04:28.920 reoffend they're getting executed and you know we're getting wild stuff on sort of you know very mundane

03:04:35.240 topics so what's sort of strange is i think the missed opportunity is if you ask trump a very basic

03:04:41.640 policy question you'll often get a very interesting answer that can totally shake up the debate like

03:04:47.000 they would ask him about schools and he would just be like yeah you know i think our public schools

03:04:50.920 aren't aren't doing great we should uh we should fire all the teachers we should make all the teachers

03:04:55.400 nationwide reapply for their jobs you know he just wake up something like that and then five years from

03:04:59.480 now it'll be the gop platform because of that that's a fun take i like that all right yeah we are

03:05:04.680 going to pick this up tomorrow jack uh you are what 2 p.m eastern every day right 2 p.m eastern sir and

03:05:10.280 you can check our show at noon eastern 9 a.m so it's only a couple hours from now we got to start

03:05:14.040 show prepping something tells me andrew we're going to have a lot of content tomorrow to go through

03:05:18.360 email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com hit the uh subscribe button guys we'll see you next

03:05:23.400 thursday this counts as our thought crime for the week obviously went wednesday as a live reaction

03:05:28.360 i'm glad we did god bless you guys and we will see you tomorrow

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - August 26, 2023

THOUGHTCRIME： Special Debate Edition

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