Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - TRIBE-ON-TRIBE VIOLENCE： Chaos Erupts In Cincinnati & New Deadline For Russia Ceasefire

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00:00:49.420 Christ is king.

00:00:51.100 Russia is making rapid advances in eastern Ukraine in a fresh offensive push.

00:00:55.540 Russian forces have captured multiple villages in Donetsk and Dnipro region.

00:01:00.000 Ukraine has confirmed Russia's offensive onslaught.

00:01:02.420 According to Ukraine's general staff, 69 combat engagements took place across the battlefield in 24 hours.

00:01:08.440 Kiev claims dozens of Russian attacks were repelled.

00:01:11.460 But Russian forces were successful in breaching Ukrainian defense in several places.

00:01:16.680 If the victory wasn't stolen from him in 2020, maybe the Ukrainian crisis that arose in 2022 appeared.

00:01:27.520 I'm not so interested in talking anymore.

00:01:29.940 He's a he talks.

00:01:32.060 We have such nice conversations, such respectful and nice conversations.

00:01:35.560 And then people die the following night.

00:01:38.380 I'm going to make a new deadline of about 10, 10 or 12 days from today.

00:01:52.480 There's no reason in waiting.

00:01:54.960 There's no reason in waiting.

00:01:56.900 It's 50 days.

00:01:57.880 I want to be generous, but we just don't see any progress being made.

00:02:03.220 The last administration lost track of 300,000.

00:02:05.480 So President Trump committed, we're going to find every one of these children.

00:02:07.980 We've already found 13,000 of these kids, over 13,000 of these kids.

00:02:11.460 New details about what Team Trump wanted to know over these past two days of talks with Maxwell.

00:02:18.020 She was asked maybe about 100 different people.

00:02:21.720 She answered questions about everybody.

00:02:23.540 And she didn't hold anything back.

00:02:28.300 A hundred different people?

00:02:30.400 A hundred names?

00:02:31.540 Mr. President, you said...

00:02:32.300 And by the way, I never went to the island.

00:02:34.400 And Bill Clinton went there supposedly 28 times.

00:02:39.680 I never went to the island, but Larry Summers, I hear, went there.

00:02:43.080 He was the head of Harvard.

00:02:44.800 And many other people that are very big people.

00:02:46.820 Nobody ever talks about them.

00:02:48.100 There was a group of people who attacked a couple folks on the street in Cincinnati. 0.92

00:02:56.860 What I saw is a mob of lawless thugs beating up on an innocent person, and it's disgusting.

00:03:06.780 And I hope every single one of those people who engage in violence is prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

00:03:10.820 Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.

00:03:18.200 Today is July 28, 2025.

00:03:21.140 Anno, Dominic.

00:03:24.300 Over the weekend, there were a number of stories that came out.

00:03:27.480 But one of the ones that came across the wire that I just couldn't stop thinking about over and over and over was this massive, obviously racially incited mob violence in Cincinnati.

00:03:45.240 And people want to go back and forth.

00:03:47.760 They say, oh, well, you know, someone said something, and that led to this, and this led to that, and people were being intimidated.

00:03:54.540 I said, look, look, look, look, it's very clear that what started out as a situation, and this is me just watching the videos, and as I've always said in any situation, show me what happened 60 seconds before the viral video began.

00:04:10.740 Show me what happened before.

00:04:11.620 Of course.

00:04:12.440 And I'm always going to have that standard.

00:04:15.120 So show me what happened before.

00:04:16.900 Show me the context.

00:04:18.360 But what you can see on the videos is very clear.

00:04:20.480 There are women being thrown to the ground and stomped on and beaten, young women, old women.

00:04:30.500 And you hear a mob of people cheering, cheering, applauding, clapping.

00:04:38.980 We don't have to live like this.

00:04:41.180 We shouldn't live like this.

00:04:43.200 And in a serious country, it wouldn't take the federal government getting involved for this situation to be dealt with.

00:04:51.460 Mob violence, regardless of if it's a white mob or a black mob, should always be put down.

00:04:58.700 There's no question.

00:05:00.440 The only question apparently is, that people have, is whether or not anyone cares.

00:05:06.400 Because you saw over the weekend that it was social media that drove this story to the national forefront.

00:05:12.920 It was not, in fact, local media.

00:05:16.500 It was not, in fact, national media.

00:05:18.800 No, it was social media.

00:05:20.480 Social media and the special connection that the Trump administration has with social media.

00:05:30.260 Donald Trump himself, of course, being a longtime user of social media.

00:05:35.520 In fact, the platform X, you know, he doesn't quite use it as much as he used to.

00:05:39.460 He now has truth social.

00:05:40.980 Elon Musk drove this over the weekend.

00:05:43.040 And, of course, J.D. Vance, who hails from Ohio and is the former senator of Ohio, is now our vice president.

00:05:49.480 And he has spoken out of against it as well.

00:05:52.140 Folks, it's becoming untenable.

00:05:59.260 It's becoming completely untenable.

00:06:01.300 Over and over and over and over.

00:06:04.020 If two people want to engage in mutual combat, that's one thing.

00:06:07.940 All right?

00:06:08.320 We have no idea what started this.

00:06:10.120 But what you're seeing here is group-on-group violence.

00:06:13.700 Where we are members of one racial group. 0.91

00:06:17.480 So we are black and you're white. 1.00

00:06:19.460 So we're going to wage violence on all of you. 1.00

00:06:21.940 All right?

00:06:22.600 This is what happens when civilizations break down.

00:06:26.480 This is what happens when societies break down.

00:06:28.980 This is what happens when the rule of law breaks down.

00:06:32.220 You don't go back into some sort of primordial stew where everyone's living in peace and harmony.

00:06:37.200 No.

00:06:38.160 No.

00:06:39.300 What do you get?

00:06:40.780 It's my tribe versus your tribe. 0.98

00:06:43.340 And my tribe has to destroy your tribe. 0.64

00:06:46.600 That is human nature.

00:06:48.480 That is human history.

00:06:50.660 Whether you like it or not.

00:06:51.620 There are cave paintings from 50,000 years ago that you can find and depicts exactly this.

00:06:59.040 The tribe taking out someone or a group of people that they decide are the other.

00:07:06.220 So this is what we've got.

00:07:08.300 Tribe-on-tribe violence on the streets of Cincinnati.

00:07:12.580 We'll be right back.

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00:08:44.100 Very excited to have on now our program, a former Department of Defense official, Dan Caldwell,

00:08:50.720 joins us.

00:08:51.260 Dan, how are you?

00:08:52.680 I'm doing great.

00:08:53.620 Thanks for having me on.

00:08:55.580 Yeah, of course.

00:08:55.980 So, had to get you on and right into the mix of it.

00:09:00.100 President Trump made some comments earlier today there in Scotland where he was meeting

00:09:05.480 with UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer regarding the situation in Russia, these peace talks,

00:09:10.800 which really do seem, I'm just going to say it, they seem like they've been stalled out.

00:09:14.320 The battlefront is what it is in eastern Ukraine in those Russian-speaking provinces.

00:09:19.640 President Trump initially saying 50-day deadline, now saying 10 to 12-day deadline.

00:09:25.200 We're not exactly sure what happens at the end of that.

00:09:28.460 It seems like he's trying to get talks to restart.

00:09:31.960 But I wanted to get your sense on what the situation really is on the ground in Ukraine

00:09:38.020 and what cards the U.S., if any, really has to play here.

00:09:40.880 Well, thanks, Jack.

00:09:43.080 And this is a very important question.

00:09:45.300 Look, I understand why President Trump is frustrated, is President Putin has not had

00:09:50.520 a real incentive to move rapidly on peace talks.

00:09:54.260 And that is because there is an unfortunate reality.

00:09:57.640 And that is that Russia has a military manpower and material advantage that the West, including

00:10:05.320 all of NATO, can't really overcome.

00:10:08.560 And so he doesn't really, he's not in a position right now where he feels like he really needs

00:10:14.480 to stop the fighting because he feels like he can achieve more of his military objectives

00:10:19.720 over the next few months.

00:10:21.480 So what does that mean?

00:10:22.740 So the reality is the Russians have a three-to-one manpower advantage over the Ukrainians.

00:10:27.960 They just simply have more people than the Ukrainians. 0.99

00:10:31.460 In addition, the Ukrainian military is having a lot of problems.

00:10:35.320 The people in the West like to focus on how much aid that the United States or NATO is

00:10:40.940 giving Ukraine.

00:10:42.340 But they're really, their biggest problem, again, comes down to manpower, is they just

00:10:46.420 don't have enough people.

00:10:47.940 They're having higher levels of desertions.

00:10:50.500 I've read reports that there's been over 100,000 desertions already this year.

00:10:54.920 Now, in fairness, some of those are guys actually deserting from one unit to another.

00:10:59.680 They don't like the unit they're in, so they're going to go to a unit they think's better.

00:11:02.380 But a lot of it, too, has to do with that people just don't want to be thrown in a meat grinder.

00:11:07.300 So I've even seen some very pro-Ukraine voices in the last week or so acknowledge that the

00:11:13.420 Ukrainian military is in really bad shape.

00:11:16.480 There may be a breakdown in some of their lines, and the Russians' advances may accelerate. 0.76

00:11:22.180 And so that is a really unfortunate reality.

00:11:24.760 And here's the tougher pill to swallow, I think, for a lot of people in the West, is short

00:11:29.360 of a direct intervention by NATO, which, of course, would be really dangerous and could

00:11:34.140 lead to a nuclear war, there's really not a lot that we can do to fundamentally change

00:11:39.660 the battlefield dynamics in Ukraine.

00:11:41.680 So it's a very difficult situation.

00:11:44.900 And again, I understand where President Trump's coming from.

00:11:47.500 He doesn't like to see the killing.

00:11:48.760 He doesn't like to see the destruction of these cities.

00:11:50.680 But there's not a whole lot that we can do unless we risk nuclear war or we do things

00:11:58.760 that can hurt us economically to really change the current balance of power on the battlefield.

00:12:05.680 And not only that, but we also saw over the weekend two items, and I kind of put them in

00:12:11.860 contention because you've got the massive protests.

00:12:16.220 Now we're seeing in Kiev and other places where they're calling out—now, these are

00:12:20.000 not anti-war protests.

00:12:21.680 I want to be clear about that to everyone.

00:12:23.360 But they are sort of anti-Zelensky in the sense that he has signed this new bill effectively

00:12:27.760 shutting down a lot of the anti-corruption watchdog bureaus that were set up post-2014,

00:12:33.920 post-Maidan, within Ukraine.

00:12:36.780 So he signed a new law basically shutting them down.

00:12:39.000 Again, this is a guy who's been in office without an election now for a very, very long time.

00:12:43.620 He was elected in 2019, so he's now been in office for six years.

00:12:48.680 Martial law, of course, was imposed on the country due to the invasion, but he continues 0.99

00:12:53.000 beyond his original term.

00:12:55.240 And so that's sort of what you're starting to see blow over into this deteriorating political

00:13:01.540 condition, which lines up with everything you're talking about regarding the front lines between

00:13:05.640 the movement of people and troops from unit to unit, and as well as the lack of supplies.

00:13:11.320 The EU just announced over the weekend, by the way, that they are going to be cutting

00:13:15.360 their aid to Ukraine, I think almost $2 billion over these corruption concerns.

00:13:21.100 This is certainly something that's very serious.

00:13:23.780 And at the same time, on the battlefield, we were talking about this earlier in the spring.

00:13:29.020 We said end of July is when you would really see Russia attempt to make a breakout along some

00:13:34.280 of these lines.

00:13:34.940 That's when the fighting season really kicks off, and we've got this map up that I can

00:13:39.800 show of Pacross, which is right there now getting squeezed as the Russians really move 1.00

00:13:45.760 to envelop this key city.

00:13:47.980 And people say, OK, well, what is this?

00:13:49.960 We're zoomed in.

00:13:50.780 If you look at all the green right there, that's exactly the spot where this late July offensive

00:13:57.520 is that we predicted would come out.

00:13:59.780 Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer was on here.

00:14:01.400 That's now happening across a key intersection for logistics in terms of a hub between the

00:14:07.860 highways for pretty much all the main cities on the eastern front.

00:14:11.960 So if they take the logistics hub, now you've got a straight shot potentially all the way

00:14:16.520 back down to the river from the Dnepr, which runs north-south and, of course, is the same

00:14:22.820 river on which Kiev itself sits.

00:14:25.040 So, Dan, when we're talking about this, those eastern cities, those really are the ones that

00:14:29.380 have the most defensives.

00:14:30.760 Those are the ones that really have the most built-up armaments, the built-up battlements.

00:14:36.520 You know, the cities beyond these areas just don't really have the level of defenses that

00:14:40.680 we saw in the east.

00:14:42.780 That's correct.

00:14:43.680 And they started building up those defenses all the way back in 2014 during the first

00:14:47.900 phase of the Donbass war.

00:14:49.260 And I think this has been a mistake of the Ukrainian military, is that they have chosen to prioritize

00:14:56.560 holding cities that really there's no strategic advantage to hold, like Bakhmut.

00:15:01.740 In 2023, that incredibly bloody battle, had they not sacrificed, you know, potentially tens

00:15:08.920 of thousands of troops in that pointless battle, their counteroffensive likely would have been

00:15:13.920 more effective and continuing to double down on these cities that they know they're going

00:15:18.960 to lose in the coming months.

00:15:20.200 They would make the argument as, oh, we're bleeding the Russians.

00:15:23.480 But again, the Russians have more men to sacrifice. 0.53

00:15:26.220 And by prioritizing these types of operations, the operation in Akersk, instead of moving back

00:15:33.940 to more defensive positions, hardening up in certain areas, shortening their lines, they

00:15:39.140 make these decisions that are more political in nature than based on sound military strategy.

00:15:45.000 And that gets back to what you were talking about earlier about Zelensky and his political

00:15:51.060 position.

00:15:51.660 I think we have to be honest here.

00:15:53.500 Is Zelensky and his right-hand man, Yermak, who I just have to say is might as well be a

00:15:59.440 Russian agent because I think he's done more to harm Ukraine over the past couple of years 0.98

00:16:03.940 than just about anybody else.

00:16:05.260 They really know that they're done as soon as the war is over or there's an election.

00:16:11.340 So they have an incentive to keep this going and to keep these spectacular political operations

00:16:17.220 that keep some of their supporters in the West happy.

00:16:21.020 But again, they really have to make some hard decisions here, shorten their lines, move to 0.99

00:16:26.600 more of an active defensive strategy.

00:16:28.740 And that will allow them to hold on longer and get to a place where they are in better

00:16:34.920 shape in negotiations.

00:16:36.580 But again, that requires acknowledging some things that will cause them to take some political

00:16:41.320 blows that Zelensky and Yermak just aren't willing to do.

00:16:45.940 And of course, this is also why I think, you know, if you see from the Russian side, they're

00:16:51.680 saying if we're enveloping these key cities, if we're at the point where they might even be

00:16:57.500 looking at the potential for severing Ukrainian supply lines to the east, I think they're

00:17:03.260 sitting there from the perspective of saying, why should we negotiate when we're winning?

00:17:07.900 Absolutely.

00:17:08.940 Absolutely.

00:17:09.480 That's a key.

00:17:10.020 That's a key thing is they have a military advantage.

00:17:12.980 And I want to get back to something I said earlier.

00:17:15.580 There's just simply not a lot of things the West can do to change that.

00:17:20.440 You know, there's been a lot of talk, for example, about giving Ukraine more Patriot missiles.

00:17:25.000 And I think President Trump has found a way to do it effectively in the short term without

00:17:31.480 undermining our own readiness.

00:17:33.020 But it doesn't change the reality that the United States only produces around 600 Patriot

00:17:39.680 missiles a year.

00:17:40.900 The Russians produce 1,200 Skander ballistic missiles a year.

00:17:45.880 And that doesn't include their Kinzhal missiles. 0.91

00:17:48.000 It doesn't include their Jaron drones, other things that at times we've used the Patriots to

00:17:52.940 shoot down.

00:17:53.460 That's a mathematical reality that's not going to change over the next few months.

00:17:57.940 So even if we were to start surging supplies to Ukraine, you'd only buy them another few

00:18:04.080 months in their current position.

00:18:07.140 And that would, at the same time, completely undermine our readiness in other key theaters,

00:18:12.220 mainly the Pacific and, you know, the Middle East, where, you know, God forbid things kick 0.98

00:18:16.080 off there.

00:18:16.820 We may have to expend more munitions there.

00:18:19.100 So there's some mathematical realities around manpower, around the West's ability to produce

00:18:24.480 things that, unfortunately, we just can't change.

00:18:27.680 So I would just say to President Trump and the administration, I understand where you're

00:18:31.760 coming from.

00:18:32.700 There's some short-term things I understand you're trying to accomplish.

00:18:35.820 But in the long term, this is going to ultimately end with Ukraine making some tough concessions

00:18:42.380 and Russia controlling more of Ukraine likely what they do now.

00:18:46.000 And this really is the threat.

00:18:49.640 And by the way, it's the people of Ukraine who suffer the most here.

00:18:52.960 And that needs to be said over and over and over.

00:18:56.000 And I remember traveling there during the war to some of these areas that were, you know,

00:19:00.180 not at the front, but pretty close.

00:19:01.660 And these are good people.

00:19:03.140 They don't deserve any of this.

00:19:05.220 Right back.

00:19:05.700 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

00:19:13.600 You talk about influences.

00:19:15.400 These are influences.

00:19:17.320 And they're friends of mine.

00:19:19.660 Jack Posobiec.

00:19:21.160 Where's Jack?

00:19:22.120 Jack.

00:19:23.140 He's done a great job.

00:19:27.420 All right, Jack Posobiec.

00:19:28.440 We're back live here at Human Events Daily.

00:19:30.060 We are talking about all things Ukraine.

00:19:32.960 We're talking about all things that are going down on the battlefield.

00:19:36.860 And we're speaking with Dan Caldwell, former Department of Defense official.

00:19:42.080 Dan, one of the things that I've heard a lot of people say, politically speaking,

00:19:46.060 is a potential political situation that the Trump administration could certainly find themselves in,

00:19:53.740 you know, just scenario down the line, that if Ukraine does, and as we're sort of talking about,

00:19:58.540 this sounds like a situation that runs the risk of a collapse.

00:20:02.060 And if there's an Afghanistan-style collapse going into midterms politically,

00:20:06.180 that's obviously going to be a huge price for the administration, as it was for Biden.

00:20:12.680 Of course, that's only really if this becomes Trump's war, even though I think it's still more seen as a Biden thing at this point.

00:20:20.840 But, you know, those images that we saw of Afghanistan, certainly ones that no one's ever going to forget.

00:20:26.380 And I think a lot of people would hate to see images like that coming out of Ukraine, coming out of Kiev, especially.

00:20:32.500 And then there's Zelensky himself.

00:20:33.860 They're already protesting him.

00:20:35.700 I mean, what happens if we're in a situation where Zelensky is fleeing to London before Christmas?

00:20:39.940 Well, I just would say that, you know, I think one solution here is just to give Zelensky, Stephen Colbert's spot on CBS.

00:20:50.420 You know, give him something to do, get him out of Ukraine. 1.00

00:20:52.500 That could be part of the deal.

00:20:54.960 I mean, that's, we were talking about it.

00:20:56.400 That's, you know, Zelensky was the Jon Stewart of Ukraine before all of this. 0.63

00:21:00.780 You know, so that could maybe be part of the peace deal.

00:21:03.780 But joking aside, you bring up a very, very important point in that President Trump doesn't want this to become his war.

00:21:10.780 So I think going forward, he needs to find ways to continue to get the Americans extricated out of a leading role in supporting Ukraine, make this more of a European problem.

00:21:24.720 And at some point he has, you know, again, I think it would be good the United States helped drive a peace deal.

00:21:31.180 But we need to be able to walk away at some point and say, this is a European problem. 0.55

00:21:36.340 This is a Eurasia problem. 1.00

00:21:38.240 The United States has other more important things to deal with.

00:21:41.560 Because, again, there's a political ramification to it if this thing falls apart under President Trump's watch and if we are ultimately more and more involved.

00:21:53.480 And I would just go back to what I said earlier.

00:21:55.680 It's just kind of like with Afghanistan. 0.88

00:21:57.160 You know, the way the withdrawal happened, the way the collapse happened was disgraceful.

00:22:01.640 But we have to admit is that there was no path to real victory in that war, just like there's no path to a total Ukraine victory in this war.

00:22:10.280 And we need to acknowledge it's going to be somewhat of an ugly piece.

00:22:14.040 But at least it preserves a future for Ukraine and its people going forward, as opposed to a total collapse or total Russian domination.

00:22:22.100 Well, this is a European Christian nation.

00:22:25.940 And certainly we hope the best way forward and fastest way forward for peace is something that can be achieved, especially while, again, this is on the European continent.

00:22:35.500 We know President Trump is there right now working very hard to focus on this.

00:22:39.800 And, of course, what everyone's thinking about is the risk of a wider war escalation, something that would draw the United States in.

00:22:47.720 And that, of course, leads to the question of our veterans and leads to the question of how we treated the veterans of the last war.

00:22:55.060 And, unfortunately, you know, I saw a statistic that I'm trying to run this down, so I haven't really put it out too much, but it claimed that the number of suicides that are directly attributable or at least associated with the global war on terror is in the tens of thousands.

00:23:13.040 And to me, that struck even more than this ubiquitous statistic we always hear, 22 a day, tens of thousands.

00:23:19.480 I mean, you would really have to add that to the total casualty rate of the global war on terror itself, but we just don't do that because we don't count numbers that way.

00:23:28.580 You've got a new piece out in The New York Times today on veterans and the treatment of veterans.

00:23:33.920 Tell us about that.

00:23:35.580 Yeah.

00:23:35.860 So I would just say on that statistic, you know, I served in the Marine Corps.

00:23:40.960 I served in Iraq.

00:23:41.960 More Marines I served with have died by suicide than were killed or injured in Iraq or Afghanistan wars.

00:23:48.840 And that's a very common experience.

00:23:51.040 Jack, I know you serve.

00:23:52.420 That's a very common experience across our peer group.

00:23:55.440 So my op-ed was focused on the problems within military housing and military health care.

00:24:02.240 And I wrote it with a good friend of mine, Darren Selmik, who served at the DOD with me, and he was focused very much on personnel.

00:24:08.360 And right now, in large part because of decisions made over the last 20 years, and particularly in the Biden administration, there's serious problems with the military health care system and military housing.

00:24:19.420 Is you have tens of, literally tens of billions of dollars of maintenance backlogs and military housing and in the military health care system that are impeding their ability to care for our service members, their families, and veterans.

00:24:33.160 Because the military health care system also takes care of military retirees.

00:24:37.000 So the message of the op-ed was this is a problem that President Trump inherited, just like with Ukraine.

00:24:44.100 But they have resources as a result of the one big, beautiful bill.

00:24:48.520 They need to make sure those resources are being used to fix these problems.

00:24:52.840 And they're not being moved into some, you know, failing acquisition program that just feeds the military industrial complex or helps, you know, some pet fork project in some congressional district.

00:25:05.020 We need to fix these systems because when a military member has to focus on his housing or his health care and problems facing his family, that's less focus they have on their ability to do their actual jobs, which is fight and win wars.

00:25:20.460 And unfortunately, that often gets overlooked.

00:25:22.820 So that was the key message here is this is a problem that the president inherited.

00:25:26.960 He has money to fix it and him and the Department of Defense should really make sure these problems are fixed because they've also had a lot of success around recruiting.

00:25:36.060 They want to keep those people. 0.94

00:25:37.660 And if these problems aren't fixed, then people aren't going to have an incentive to reenlist or re-up and spend 10, 20, 30 years in the military like we want them to.

00:25:46.780 Oh, that's exactly right.

00:25:48.540 No, I couldn't agree more.

00:25:49.560 Please go check out this op-ed.

00:25:51.100 It's very important.

00:25:51.840 And by the way, I did run down that statistic and this is a report from Brown University, the cost of war project.

00:26:01.660 And OK, so Brown University, that's that's what's put this out.

00:26:04.560 And a project from the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs, their estimate is 30,000 suicides among post 9-11 veterans and active duty personnel.

00:26:17.800 So 30,000, which is just just a number that needs to be said over and over.

00:26:24.160 And it's, you know, moral engineering.

00:26:26.660 It's how we deploy these these guys over and over again.

00:26:30.120 And it, you know, we're taking National Guardsmen and putting them on 22-month deployments to the sandbox.

00:26:36.340 Yeah, it just infuriates me.

00:26:38.840 And I mean, that's a whole nother episode.

00:26:40.380 But it's a shameful that the people responsible for that.

00:26:44.460 Dan, we'll have you on again.

00:26:45.940 Where can people go to follow you, man?

00:26:48.340 Follow me on X at Dan D. Caldwell.

00:26:51.360 That's the best place to find my work right now.

00:26:53.200 All right, Dan Caldwell, former DOD official.

00:26:58.040 We'll be right back here.

00:26:59.240 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.

00:27:07.920 Where is Jack?

00:27:10.300 Where is Jack?

00:27:12.620 Where is he?

00:27:13.900 Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:17.560 Great job, Jack.

00:27:19.060 Thank you.

00:27:19.820 What a job you do.

00:27:20.880 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:27:22.680 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.

00:27:24.960 But we have guys.

00:27:26.500 And these are the guys who should be getting policemen.

00:27:30.720 All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back live.

00:27:33.720 Human Events Daily.

00:27:34.900 So, Jeffrey Epstein, Todd Blanche, the Deputy Attorney General,

00:27:40.020 going down and meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell for two sessions,

00:27:44.780 totaling up to about nine hours.

00:27:46.740 Now, long-time viewers of Human Events Daily here on Real America's Voice

00:27:50.460 will remember this is something that I've been calling for

00:27:52.660 since her very trial itself, all the way back in 2021,

00:27:56.500 saying, look, you know, I remember from my time at Gitmo,

00:27:59.440 when you've got someone behind bars, yes, it is punishment,

00:28:03.080 but it is also a source of information.

00:28:06.160 And, in fact, a source that is in a fixed position and cannot leave.

00:28:11.260 So, you think of that as a library.

00:28:12.820 You think of that as an archive.

00:28:15.120 And now, finally, all the way up at the highest level,

00:28:17.560 thanks to the pressure, by the way,

00:28:19.280 of people like the Human Events audience,

00:28:21.400 people like the Posse, and the Patriots writ large,

00:28:24.380 we're now finally starting to see the wheels turn on this

00:28:27.780 at a very high level.

00:28:29.920 And you can't deny that it's a very, very high level

00:28:32.740 when the Deputy Attorney General has gone down.

00:28:35.500 And Todd Blanche is a very serious guy.

00:28:37.080 Worked with the president on the impeachment.

00:28:38.760 Very, very serious.

00:28:40.040 So, I wanted to bring on Shane Cashman

00:28:42.040 to get into this a little bit, chop it up.

00:28:45.820 Shane, you know him, of course, from TimCast.

00:28:48.380 He joins Human Events Daily once again.

00:28:50.520 Shane, how are you?

00:28:51.960 Hey, Jack. It's good to be here.

00:28:53.040 Thanks for having me.

00:28:54.480 So, what do you make of the current status of all of this?

00:28:58.900 You know, a lot of people said,

00:28:59.980 oh, they're going to cover it up.

00:29:01.280 It's never, and certainly there have been cover-ups.

00:29:03.500 And a lot of people thought the government

00:29:04.960 would never go back to it.

00:29:06.040 President Trump has sent his Deputy Attorney General there

00:29:08.860 to a prison cell or at least the attorney meeting room

00:29:11.560 with Elaine Maxwell.

00:29:14.060 Well, I think it's great that we're talking to her finally.

00:29:16.560 I want to hear everything she has to say.

00:29:18.560 I think the American people deserve to hear everything.

00:29:21.600 She is a great source of information,

00:29:23.480 although I urge everyone to be skeptical of what she says,

00:29:28.040 just in terms of her past.

00:29:30.060 You know, what she's in jail for is very serious.

00:29:33.300 I, you know, very reluctant to want to say she deserves a pardon,

00:29:37.480 but I want to hear everything she says,

00:29:39.420 just because what she's complicit in doing

00:29:42.020 is some of the most evil stuff I can imagine happening on Earth

00:29:45.660 when it comes to children.

00:29:47.780 And then, you know, my skepticism is also rooted in her familial ties,

00:29:52.640 her father being Robert Maxwell.

00:29:54.140 Well, you know, he was involved in some very serious,

00:29:57.460 also high-issue crimes with the Promise scandal in the early 90s.

00:30:03.060 And he himself was a bit of a, like a media mogul,

00:30:05.720 a bit of a Rupert Murdoch.

00:30:07.100 I think there were even competition around that same time

00:30:09.540 in terms of owning presses like Pergamon Press

00:30:12.400 and even owning 51% of MTV.

00:30:15.480 But that all said, you know,

00:30:17.140 I think there has been a mismanagement of information

00:30:19.520 coming from the administration.

00:30:21.000 And I think a lot of the people around the president

00:30:24.460 seem to be saying things, maybe multiple things.

00:30:27.960 And I don't think he really knows how to handle it, honestly,

00:30:30.580 in terms of how I hear the messaging,

00:30:32.260 which has been tough for the people to hear.

00:30:34.780 But this is a great step in getting,

00:30:37.640 hopefully, some more transparency.

00:30:39.440 Hopefully, we can trust it.

00:30:40.560 I'm very interested to see what she has to say.

00:30:42.900 Who are these 100 people she's talking about?

00:30:45.560 I think we probably know quite a bit of those names already.

00:30:48.520 And then my skepticism is also rooted in, you know,

00:30:53.300 this case has gone on so long.

00:30:55.440 And people talk about the files, which is, you know,

00:30:57.320 I think are important.

00:30:58.280 But it's hard to trust those as well

00:30:59.660 because they've been through so many different hands,

00:31:01.680 through so many administrations and people

00:31:03.660 that, you know, we don't know what's been done to them,

00:31:06.540 who to trust.

00:31:07.660 And, but, you know, I'm very, very eager to hear

00:31:10.460 what they've learned from Ghislaine this time around.

00:31:13.940 Well, that's right.

00:31:14.780 And I keep saying over and over, you know,

00:31:16.480 people say, you know, how do you take,

00:31:18.520 the word of someone who's been associated with this?

00:31:21.480 And I point out that that's the same as any source, right?

00:31:24.780 Any source on any story that you work with,

00:31:28.160 whether you're an investigative journalist,

00:31:30.220 whether you work in intelligence,

00:31:31.540 whether you're an investigator.

00:31:32.640 Again, you always take it with a grain of salt.

00:31:35.140 You always take it as skepticism.

00:31:36.860 You're not doing your job as a reporter

00:31:38.900 or an investigator if you're not.

00:31:41.160 What you have to do then next is called corroboration.

00:31:44.520 Okay, so does this match up with flight logs?

00:31:47.140 Do we have another source, maybe a pilot or something like that,

00:31:50.920 someone who worked there that can also corroborate

00:31:53.660 what this person has said?

00:31:54.920 Do we have other, and again, you know,

00:31:56.480 when you're the deputy attorney general,

00:31:58.240 you have the full resources of the federal government

00:32:00.680 at your fingertips.

00:32:01.560 So you've got access to every file that was created

00:32:05.420 from the previous investigations,

00:32:07.600 as well as to data for, in terms of cell phone records,

00:32:12.340 all sorts of things that can be sought for.

00:32:15.240 So it's really something where, you know,

00:32:17.500 and I remember I used to get that question all the time

00:32:19.820 when we would have congressional delegations

00:32:21.680 or senators down at Guantanamo.

00:32:22.920 I said, how can you trust these guys?

00:32:24.340 I said, well, we don't, right?

00:32:25.500 That's the obvious answer.

00:32:27.120 We don't.

00:32:27.520 I saw Speaker Johnson got asked the same question.

00:32:30.780 I think he was on Face the Nation this weekend,

00:32:32.600 and he got asked that question.

00:32:33.780 He said, well, I hope she's truthful.

00:32:35.260 But it's not just that, Speaker.

00:32:37.200 It's that you don't trust.

00:32:38.940 You trust but verify.

00:32:41.380 Trust but verify.

00:32:42.920 That's the answer.

00:32:44.020 That's what it comes down to.

00:32:45.460 And really, look, you saw even President Trump now,

00:32:48.760 even President Trump is talking about Harvard University

00:32:51.740 and their connections to Epstein.

00:32:53.260 Boy, we know Harvard University obviously is connected

00:32:56.760 to so many CRT and all of these, you know,

00:33:00.720 Occupy movements and all the rest of it.

00:33:03.260 So the idea that a place like Harvard would be so tied

00:33:07.160 to Epstein, Reid Hoffman, people who are going down

00:33:10.120 to the island, President Trump, of course,

00:33:12.340 confirming that he did not go to the island

00:33:14.700 using some select language.

00:33:17.300 Can I say something about Harvard really quick?

00:33:19.520 That is extremely important because, you know,

00:33:23.060 not only Larry Summers was the president of Harvard

00:33:26.060 from 2001 to, I think, 2006, but then he, you know,

00:33:30.160 as far as we know, asked for a donation for his wife's,

00:33:33.380 like, poetry videos from Epstein.

00:33:35.460 I believe that happened after the conviction.

00:33:37.840 That's extremely suspicious.

00:33:40.200 I mean, Trump, I believe this morning,

00:33:41.980 the president mentioned Summers as well

00:33:43.460 when he was talking about the island.

00:33:45.660 So Harvard is very, very interesting to me

00:33:47.460 in terms of Epstein.

00:33:48.220 The other connection would be Eric Weinstein

00:33:50.860 was a student there, and he's talked about

00:33:52.680 Jeffrey Epstein's connections to the math department

00:33:55.200 and how he was, Jeffrey Epstein was very interested

00:33:58.480 in gravity technology.

00:34:00.560 I don't know what that's all about.

00:34:01.960 I would love to hear more about those connections

00:34:03.760 and when it comes to that investigation,

00:34:05.260 the corroboration you're talking about.

00:34:06.680 I hope to see a lot of that and how it affected Harvard

00:34:09.200 because our universities have been completely captured,

00:34:11.620 and this is just going to be one example

00:34:13.200 of how they're captured.

00:34:15.140 You know, someone like Epstein is a gatekeeper,

00:34:17.040 a blackmailer, and why he's so interested

00:34:20.360 in these things is quite interesting,

00:34:22.580 especially if I connect it to what I said previously

00:34:24.260 about Robert Maxwell, who did Pergamon Press,

00:34:27.280 with a lot of science textbooks

00:34:28.540 that were in a lot of colleges, you know.

00:34:30.580 So there's a very strange, you know, coincidences,

00:34:33.160 I'll put in quotes, that connect Epstein, Maxwell, Ghislaine

00:34:36.860 to things like the sciences industry in this country.

00:34:41.620 And this is what it's all about, you know,

00:34:43.940 these ideas of, he talked about genetic stuff at one point,

00:34:48.600 he had this ranch where he wanted to get into,

00:34:50.960 you know, basically, it was reproduction of himself,

00:34:54.220 but on a mass scale, and he had these ideas

00:34:57.100 of sort of like global depopulation,

00:35:00.080 and it's sort of like, you know, a seed bank,

00:35:03.080 but a genetic seed bank, and who knows,

00:35:05.940 perhaps he's got some of those squirreled away somewhere.

00:35:08.560 But at the end of the day, you know,

00:35:10.180 people are saying that we want to come at this

00:35:12.200 from a political perspective.

00:35:14.080 And yes, of course, it's very easy to make this

00:35:16.280 into an R's versus D thing.

00:35:17.760 But I think to your point, it goes way deeper than that.

00:35:20.560 I think this is part of the spiritual warfare

00:35:22.920 that we are unfortunately trapped within.

00:35:25.540 You know, we're in a revolving door of tragedy

00:35:27.500 and trauma that's connected to, you know, 0.99

00:35:29.580 in my opinion, satanic pedophiles 0.98

00:35:31.400 that are, you know, unfortunately, 0.98

00:35:33.920 have ingratiated themselves into almost every institution,

00:35:36.240 maybe every institution in the country, education, arts.

00:35:39.540 You know, it's not just Epstein.

00:35:40.920 He's just one part of a much bigger thing.

00:35:43.400 And so when I hear Trump campaigning on Agenda 47

00:35:46.800 and obliterating the deep state,

00:35:48.400 something I care deeply about,

00:35:50.120 this Epstein story is a part of that invisible network

00:35:53.240 of, you know, evildoers

00:35:54.940 that are running this country into the ground, 0.62

00:35:56.900 that are turning it against us,

00:35:58.160 that have weaponized the government

00:35:59.080 against the American people.

00:36:00.880 You know, the Epstein case is so important,

00:36:03.240 not just because of the children,

00:36:04.560 which we want to protect and keep protecting.

00:36:06.940 And, you know, they're harming the innocent.

00:36:08.620 And on top of that, it's also,

00:36:10.600 what are they gatekeeping?

00:36:11.860 What are they doing to politicians

00:36:13.040 to make them vote a certain way with our tax dollars?

00:36:15.800 So this is like a really important situation.

00:36:18.360 It's really important for people to not talk about,

00:36:20.580 you know, they say, don't talk about it, move on.

00:36:22.360 You know, I think a lot of people are underestimating

00:36:24.760 how important this story is to even people

00:36:26.400 who don't live online as much as you and I might.

00:36:28.560 I spent the weekend talking to a ton of people

00:36:30.700 just in the real world,

00:36:31.880 family members, friends, and strangers

00:36:34.080 just talking about Epstein.

00:36:35.540 And they're like, yeah, that's an insane story.

00:36:37.440 And I'm like, are you on Twitter?

00:36:38.800 And they're not as on Twitter as much as I am.

00:36:40.220 I'm addicted.

00:36:41.140 You know, and people do care

00:36:42.200 because they see it as this destruction of innocence

00:36:46.640 and the attack on children.

00:36:48.040 And also, why is it so closely related to our government

00:36:51.420 and also governments around the world?

00:36:52.900 It's not just ours.

00:36:53.900 So I think this is incredibly important.

00:36:56.000 And, you know, I'm very anxious to see

00:36:58.360 what we get out of this Ghislaine Maxwell questioning.

00:37:01.680 Well, and it's simple as that.

00:37:03.740 And when it comes to the nature of these crimes,

00:37:06.860 when it comes to the nature of the crime,

00:37:08.240 by the way, just the crimes that we know about,

00:37:10.700 just the crimes that are public,

00:37:12.160 the crimes that are actually out there

00:37:13.940 in the public domain that you could see there

00:37:16.160 that she was convicted for,

00:37:17.880 that she's currently serving trial for,

00:37:19.820 or excuse me, serving a sentence for right now

00:37:21.440 that all came out at her trial.

00:37:22.960 Beyond anything else that could be involved,

00:37:25.080 even though we're told a hundred names came up

00:37:27.880 during the course of this nine hours of questioning,

00:37:30.180 which is really just an opening.

00:37:32.040 By the way, I get my nine hours is nothing.

00:37:34.960 That is just, that's like day one, day two, right?

00:37:38.340 That is nothing.

00:37:39.480 I can't imagine, man.

00:37:40.420 And I just want people to remember,

00:37:42.060 like, this is also about the justice system.

00:37:44.020 We all know how it's been mutilated over the decades

00:37:47.200 and turned against the people

00:37:48.820 and how other people are allowed to somehow walk.

00:37:51.160 And we can't forget that when Epstein went to jail in Florida,

00:37:53.640 when he was put away for, it was supposed to be two years,

00:37:55.960 he only did 13 months,

00:37:56.920 that was a pretty sweet little deal he had.

00:37:58.720 He was like, if you even have to stay there overnight,

00:38:00.060 we'll be right back, Shane Cashman,

00:38:01.680 Jack Wassoby, Human Events Daily.

00:38:08.040 Jack is a great guy.

00:38:09.500 He's written a fantastic book.

00:38:11.280 Everybody's talking about it.

00:38:12.400 Go get it.

00:38:13.540 And he's been my friend right from the beginning

00:38:15.420 of this whole beautiful event.

00:38:17.500 And we're going to turn it around

00:38:18.860 and make our country great again.

00:38:20.700 Amen.

00:38:23.640 All right, Jack Wassoby back live here.

00:38:26.880 Human Events Daily.

00:38:28.780 Now, this is a story

00:38:29.740 that Shane Cashman over at TeamCast

00:38:31.800 has been working on.

00:38:33.260 And he wanted to share it with us

00:38:34.520 because it's very interesting

00:38:35.800 and perhaps goes deeper than we originally thought.

00:38:39.360 And it's called...

00:38:40.460 I'm just going to ask Shane.

00:38:41.420 I'm just going to ask Shane.

00:38:42.000 Shane, what is the gothic fire at Area 51?

00:38:46.500 So the official story

00:38:48.280 is that lightning struck

00:38:50.060 in the area around Area 51

00:38:51.920 on July 4th

00:38:53.500 and started what became

00:38:54.960 40,000 acres on fire

00:38:57.420 surrounding Area 51.

00:39:00.720 It's been, I think, contained.

00:39:03.200 Last I checked,

00:39:04.060 it was down to half that.

00:39:05.700 But, you know,

00:39:06.520 it's been worrisome than the people.

00:39:08.500 You know, there's all different theories about it.

00:39:10.300 You know, oh, my goodness,

00:39:10.940 they're trying to get rid of evidence.

00:39:12.340 They're, you know,

00:39:13.120 trying to get rid of technology

00:39:15.760 that they don't want to be found.

00:39:17.020 Or it's just, you know,

00:39:18.560 a natural disaster

00:39:19.480 and a fire happening

00:39:20.400 near a super top-secret area.

00:39:22.880 But the thing that's interesting to me

00:39:25.140 is that fires in Area 51

00:39:27.580 have a long history

00:39:29.160 of infecting people,

00:39:31.700 making people sick who work there.

00:39:33.340 You can go back to the early 2000s

00:39:35.240 and find articles in SF Gate

00:39:37.420 where former staffers at Area 51

00:39:39.820 say they were in charge of burn pits

00:39:42.160 that gave them cancer.

00:39:44.220 And they were burning chemicals.

00:39:45.600 You know, this is,

00:39:46.880 Area 51, for those that don't know,

00:39:48.060 is where, like, Skunk Works

00:39:48.980 does a lot of building

00:39:50.360 of high technology,

00:39:52.320 like, you know,

00:39:54.040 the stealth bombers,

00:39:55.360 which I'll get into in a second.

00:39:57.040 And they were...

00:39:58.040 Yeah, and just wait,

00:39:59.500 let me zoom out for a second.

00:40:01.500 So, guys,

00:40:02.200 if anyone doesn't know this by now,

00:40:03.940 Area 51 is 100% real.

00:40:05.760 It's an actual place.

00:40:07.380 It is part of the Nevada Test

00:40:08.780 and Training Range

00:40:09.740 in Southern Nevada.

00:40:11.300 It's right next to Groom Lake.

00:40:12.800 So, it has been a place

00:40:14.700 where the Air Force has used

00:40:16.220 for many, many years

00:40:17.440 for these tests

00:40:18.880 and experimental aircraft,

00:40:20.260 as well as perhaps other things.

00:40:22.740 Yeah, you know,

00:40:23.500 there's a ton of theories out there.

00:40:24.680 People believe there's

00:40:25.220 extraterrestrial life there.

00:40:26.260 People tried invading Area 51

00:40:28.700 a few years ago.

00:40:30.320 But there's definitely Lockheed Martin

00:40:32.140 and others out there

00:40:33.120 working on future technology

00:40:35.620 that we can't even imagine yet.

00:40:37.400 So, like I said,

00:40:38.400 in SF Gate in the early 2000s,

00:40:39.840 there's articles from staffers

00:40:40.840 at Area 51 saying

00:40:41.700 they were sickened

00:40:42.540 by these burn pits,

00:40:43.760 probably from chemicals

00:40:44.660 used maybe from paints

00:40:46.200 or who knows what

00:40:47.240 from things they were building.

00:40:49.020 But the reason this is

00:40:49.800 so interesting now

00:40:50.400 at the Gothic fires

00:40:51.220 in the news

00:40:52.060 is that at the same time,

00:40:54.300 there's a new group

00:40:55.300 of Air Force vets

00:40:56.820 who are also staffers,

00:40:58.440 hand-picked staffers

00:40:59.440 at Area 51

00:41:00.180 working on multiple

00:41:01.460 top-secret projects,

00:41:02.620 one of which they're

00:41:03.280 allowed to tell us

00:41:03.880 was working on

00:41:04.660 the stealth bomber.

00:41:06.500 And they had a barbecue

00:41:07.680 a few years ago.

00:41:09.060 This guy, David Crete,

00:41:10.660 had this barbecue together.

00:41:11.640 And this was first reported

00:41:12.540 in Newsmax.

00:41:13.280 I want to shout out them

00:41:14.020 for just breaking

00:41:15.060 this crazy story.

00:41:16.380 They all realized

00:41:17.100 at this barbecue,

00:41:18.060 they'd all been suffering

00:41:19.040 from terrible cancers.

00:41:20.440 And not just like

00:41:21.060 your normal cancer.

00:41:22.420 It's like they all had

00:41:23.340 grapefruit-sized tumors.

00:41:25.200 They all had multiple cancers.

00:41:27.240 David Crete believes,

00:41:28.880 and this is according

00:41:29.720 to his doctors,

00:41:30.960 that this,

00:41:32.200 they call it

00:41:32.940 the invisible enemy

00:41:33.760 from these chemicals

00:41:35.120 in Area 51,

00:41:36.920 actually altered his DNA.

00:41:38.360 So much so that

00:41:39.660 it gave his son

00:41:40.700 a brain tumor

00:41:41.440 when he was born.

00:41:42.580 So these guys

00:41:43.200 started talking

00:41:43.860 and being like,

00:41:44.420 wow, there's a ton of us

00:41:45.140 that actually 491 people

00:41:46.980 have died as a part

00:41:48.260 of this program

00:41:48.960 over the years.

00:41:50.220 You know,

00:41:50.340 they were out of touch

00:41:51.000 for a while.

00:41:51.820 They got back together

00:41:52.620 for this barbecue

00:41:53.120 and realized,

00:41:54.040 oh my goodness,

00:41:54.520 that's a lot of people

00:41:55.240 from one, you know,

00:41:56.660 department out there.

00:41:58.540 491,

00:41:59.020 there's actually a wreath

00:41:59.680 now in D.C.

00:42:00.780 for these 491

00:42:02.520 who are dead.

00:42:03.580 And they're trying

00:42:04.160 to pass some legislation

00:42:06.180 to get help

00:42:06.860 because on top

00:42:07.980 of all these issues

00:42:08.900 that, you know,

00:42:09.640 they can't talk about

00:42:10.480 and their illnesses,

00:42:12.020 all of their information

00:42:12.840 is data masked

00:42:13.680 because it was all

00:42:14.660 classified information.

00:42:15.660 So the VA can't help them

00:42:17.120 because they have

00:42:18.100 no way to prove

00:42:19.440 they were around

00:42:20.200 anything dangerous

00:42:21.900 while they're out

00:42:22.740 there working.

00:42:23.740 So now there's this

00:42:24.320 big push,

00:42:25.680 and I hope it happens

00:42:26.400 for them to get help

00:42:27.220 to get these things

00:42:28.280 unmasked

00:42:28.920 so these guys can find,

00:42:30.280 I mean,

00:42:30.460 some of these guys

00:42:30.860 have just lost their tongues.

00:42:32.440 They can't walk.

00:42:33.480 Like I said,

00:42:34.320 the altered DNA

00:42:35.180 is affecting children.

00:42:37.120 And that might remind

00:42:38.300 some people

00:42:38.920 who are listening

00:42:39.780 of things such as

00:42:41.320 Agent Orange

00:42:42.000 made by Monsanto

00:42:43.400 during the Vietnam War.

00:42:45.180 They said,

00:42:45.720 we're going to spray

00:42:46.220 our enemies

00:42:46.660 with Agent Orange.

00:42:47.520 Not really thinking

00:42:48.380 maybe they did,

00:42:49.240 you know,

00:42:49.420 who knows,

00:42:50.320 how it would affect

00:42:50.940 our soldiers.

00:42:52.060 And it affected

00:42:52.900 our soldiers

00:42:53.380 in horrible ways.

00:42:54.440 I have people calling

00:42:55.000 into my show

00:42:55.540 who are family members

00:42:56.720 of people who had

00:42:57.820 died from Agent Orange,

00:42:58.860 and it's tragic.

00:42:59.660 And, you know,

00:43:00.020 that also affected

00:43:01.060 their children.

00:43:02.300 So this is another

00:43:03.560 one of those stories

00:43:04.200 that I just,

00:43:05.440 I find egregious.

00:43:07.020 Yeah,

00:43:07.500 growing up,

00:43:07.980 I had a buddy

00:43:09.040 whose dad was

00:43:10.020 a Marine in Vietnam

00:43:11.260 that he ended up

00:43:12.640 being part of it,

00:43:13.480 getting some of the settlement.

00:43:14.540 I remember the whole thing

00:43:15.760 from a young age

00:43:16.760 when that happened.

00:43:18.020 And I would also add

00:43:19.300 that this,

00:43:20.060 something else

00:43:20.500 this reminds me of

00:43:21.580 is, you know,

00:43:22.720 take the military

00:43:23.560 potentially aspect

00:43:24.640 out of it,

00:43:25.300 East Palestine.

00:43:26.340 So East Palestine, 0.84

00:43:27.020 I know you've done

00:43:27.620 a ton of reporting there.

00:43:29.520 Our network,

00:43:30.360 of course,

00:43:30.620 Real America's Voice

00:43:31.320 and the great Ben Burquam

00:43:32.480 was one of the first

00:43:33.520 on the scene,

00:43:34.420 has gone back

00:43:34.920 multiple times.

00:43:36.640 And again,

00:43:37.420 what we're all getting around,

00:43:39.080 and by the way,

00:43:39.640 I know veterans

00:43:40.180 who've had all sorts

00:43:41.240 of horrible experiences

00:43:42.440 with burn pits,

00:43:43.360 people whose toenails

00:43:44.700 and fingernails

00:43:45.380 are falling off,

00:43:46.100 all sorts of things.

00:43:47.120 So these are all

00:43:48.680 chemical symptoms.

00:43:49.740 What we're all talking about

00:43:51.080 and talking around

00:43:52.560 are clearly related

00:43:54.300 to chemicals,

00:43:55.340 the specifics of which,

00:43:56.300 to your point,

00:43:56.960 are very hard

00:43:57.940 to pin down sometime,

00:43:59.280 but the symptoms

00:44:00.060 don't lie,

00:44:00.800 do they?

00:44:02.080 No.

00:44:02.600 And East Palestine

00:44:03.680 is a huge disaster.

00:44:05.680 Our government

00:44:06.160 was semi-involved

00:44:07.400 with the quote-unquote

00:44:08.300 cleanup.

00:44:09.100 And I just got to shout out

00:44:10.260 Ben for being there.

00:44:11.260 He was there.

00:44:11.700 I was there.

00:44:12.300 Ben was there.

00:44:12.800 And Steve Bannon

00:44:13.420 were there.

00:44:14.740 In those weeks afterwards,

00:44:16.060 when those people

00:44:16.540 were completely abandoned,

00:44:18.140 Buttigieg showed up

00:44:19.200 as like a PR stunt. 0.94

00:44:20.380 Totally ridiculous. 0.98

00:44:21.860 And these people, 0.99

00:44:22.540 for those who forget,

00:44:23.560 Norfolk Southern

00:44:24.780 had the train wreck.

00:44:25.740 They decided to blow up

00:44:27.000 the car

00:44:28.020 that had this crazy,

00:44:29.560 I'm spacing on the chemical

00:44:31.380 they had,

00:44:32.080 vinyl chloride.

00:44:33.360 And they literally,

00:44:34.360 what they call it

00:44:34.840 is they inverted

00:44:35.480 the atmosphere

00:44:36.140 above East Palestine,

00:44:37.640 trapping everything,

00:44:38.860 all the chemicals,

00:44:40.220 major die-offs,

00:44:41.900 people with apiaries

00:44:42.840 lost all their bees.

00:44:44.340 They were told

00:44:44.840 they can't use

00:44:45.400 their cattle anymore.

00:44:46.700 Their agriculture

00:44:47.840 just was done.

00:44:48.840 They couldn't use

00:44:49.300 their water.

00:44:50.160 And that was horrible.

00:44:51.340 And they got like,

00:44:51.860 I think,

00:44:52.180 200 bucks

00:44:52.760 from Norfolk Southern.

00:44:53.720 Later come to find out

00:44:54.440 they didn't have

00:44:55.040 to blow anything up.

00:44:56.100 But this is a problem

00:44:56.880 that affects

00:44:57.420 so many places

00:44:58.840 across the country.

00:44:59.980 You know,

00:45:00.140 talk about stuff

00:45:00.620 like dioxin

00:45:01.440 or dioxide

00:45:02.220 in Times Beach, Missouri.

00:45:04.140 They just had to

00:45:04.800 close down the entire city

00:45:06.800 and the government

00:45:07.780 took it.

00:45:08.300 It's a brown site

00:45:09.100 with eminent domain

00:45:10.200 because you couldn't

00:45:11.100 live there anymore.

00:45:11.620 It was completely,

00:45:12.360 it would just,

00:45:12.800 it would make you sick.

00:45:14.520 It would give you cancer.

00:45:15.820 So, you know,

00:45:16.560 East Palestine

00:45:17.080 is still suffering.

00:45:18.100 And I think about

00:45:19.160 those people all the time

00:45:20.040 because they just decimated

00:45:20.880 that entire town.

00:45:22.180 So, yeah,

00:45:22.860 I mean,

00:45:23.040 I gotta add,

00:45:25.100 by the way,

00:45:26.280 two other people

00:45:27.140 who were there,

00:45:27.720 by the way,

00:45:28.160 of course,

00:45:29.220 then Senator J.D. Vance

00:45:31.220 and as he was running

00:45:32.720 for president,

00:45:33.560 Donald J. Trump.

00:45:34.800 They went at a time

00:45:36.020 when,

00:45:36.700 to your point,

00:45:37.580 nobody is,

00:45:38.240 I've always,

00:45:38.900 by the way,

00:45:39.260 referred to East Palestine

00:45:40.440 as a real turning point.

00:45:43.200 That was the turning point

00:45:44.200 in the story of Trump

00:45:45.160 after the,

00:45:47.260 after Jan 6th

00:45:48.520 in a way that

00:45:49.200 even the Mar-a-Lago raid

00:45:50.640 wasn't necessarily

00:45:51.640 a turning point.

00:45:52.960 I really think

00:45:53.860 East Palestine

00:45:54.620 gets overlooked

00:45:55.900 as just how important

00:45:57.140 it was.

00:45:58.320 And I think it was

00:45:59.840 a political thing

00:46:01.080 in terms of,

00:46:01.660 I mean,

00:46:01.820 I don't think it was political

00:46:02.460 that they blew it up,

00:46:03.400 but it was political

00:46:04.220 that they were forgotten

00:46:05.060 and abandoned

00:46:06.020 by the Biden administration.

00:46:07.600 Because if you go there,

00:46:08.480 it's Trump territory.

00:46:09.800 These are the little towns

00:46:10.800 of America

00:46:11.380 that,

00:46:11.860 you know,

00:46:12.740 that the Hollywood

00:46:13.800 doesn't care about,

00:46:14.700 finances don't care about,

00:46:15.660 nobody cares about.

00:46:16.000 But Trump clearly cared

00:46:17.280 and it was great to see.

00:46:19.080 But,

00:46:19.280 you know,

00:46:19.400 those people are still

00:46:19.960 out there suffering.

00:46:20.980 They had,

00:46:21.260 and they had illnesses

00:46:23.160 like that,

00:46:24.160 little kids with rashes

00:46:25.160 that week.

00:46:26.720 So,

00:46:27.200 and I just hope

00:46:27.860 that they're getting

00:46:28.340 the help that they're,

00:46:29.500 that they need.

00:46:30.240 But,

00:46:30.700 you know,

00:46:30.820 those people will tell you

00:46:31.720 they grew up,

00:46:32.540 you know,

00:46:32.720 say an hour or two north

00:46:34.020 in Ohio

00:46:34.700 and there's a lake

00:46:35.800 that just sometimes

00:46:36.740 lights on fire

00:46:38.040 because of chemicals

00:46:38.860 that are in it.

00:46:39.720 So,

00:46:40.080 you know,

00:46:40.280 these things are

00:46:40.740 unfortunately everywhere.

00:46:42.940 Right.

00:46:43.380 And I'll never forget,

00:46:44.660 you know,

00:46:45.200 the EPA administrator

00:46:47.120 going down

00:46:47.900 and people walking up,

00:46:49.040 would you want

00:46:49.400 some of the water?

00:46:50.400 Drink some of the water.

00:46:51.360 Go ahead.

00:46:52.060 It's all,

00:46:52.420 it's all safe.

00:46:53.020 Here you go.

00:46:53.500 Here's a cup.

00:46:54.280 Go for it.

00:46:54.700 Will you drink some?

00:46:55.760 Look,

00:46:56.040 at the end of the day,

00:46:56.980 people are tired

00:46:57.860 of the lies,

00:46:58.900 whether it be

00:46:59.620 East Palestine,

00:47:01.080 Area 51,

00:47:02.580 Jeffrey Epstein,

00:47:03.600 we're going to be doing

00:47:04.120 a whole piece

00:47:04.900 on Oklahoma City

00:47:05.860 next week.

00:47:06.880 People just want

00:47:07.960 the truth.

00:47:08.500 And by the way,

00:47:09.440 they want the truth

00:47:10.260 and let the chips

00:47:10.980 fall where they may.

00:47:12.220 Let the chips fall

00:47:13.020 where they may.

00:47:14.000 Give us the truth.

00:47:15.280 We can handle it.

00:47:16.460 Shane Cashman,

00:47:17.020 where can people go

00:47:17.540 to follow you

00:47:18.160 and get your show,

00:47:18.800 man?

00:47:19.720 Jack,

00:47:20.160 thank you so much

00:47:20.640 for having me back on.

00:47:21.360 It's always a pleasure

00:47:21.820 to talk.

00:47:22.420 You guys can find me

00:47:23.140 online at Shane Cashman

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00:47:33.780 have weird stories,

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00:47:36.180 something you just

00:47:36.800 can't explain,

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00:47:42.460 Shout out to

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00:47:44.420 as a former

00:47:46.040 longtime listener

00:47:47.280 of the great

00:47:48.000 Art Bell.

00:47:49.280 Even visited

00:47:49.980 his compound

00:47:51.620 once.

00:47:52.240 Oh yeah,

00:47:52.620 share that story

00:47:53.180 another time.

00:47:54.160 Ladies and gentlemen,

00:47:54.800 as always,

00:47:55.260 you have my permission

00:47:55.940 to lay a short.

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