What happens when the Fourth Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare? A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posoe, joins host Jack Poso to discuss the latest in the Iran situation.
00:03:28.840Folks, the news is breaking and it is stunning.
00:03:33.360President Trump has just announced a two-week delay in his decision on Iran.
00:03:44.460What can I say other than blessed are the peacemakers and, in fact, blessed are the dealmakers.
00:03:53.240President Trump has announced also that Iran is, I believe he said, likely or unlikely to have negotiations and discuss these negotiations in a statement through Press Secretary Caroline Levitt,
00:04:09.700which you just heard moments ago, that's a message to our American troops that are there stationed throughout the Middle East,
00:04:18.700to our aircraft carriers and the thousands upon thousands of sailors on them, to the pilots, the crews, everyone.
00:04:28.520There's not going to be a strike right now.
00:04:31.120There's not going to be a strike tonight.
00:04:33.020There will be a two-week delay in order for Iran to have these conversations and potentially continue these conversations with President Trump through, of course, his envoy, special envoy, Steve Whitcoff.
00:04:48.960Folks, when President Trump ran in 2024, when he ran in 2020, and when he ran in 2016, he ran on peace.
00:05:00.580He ran on being an anti-war president.
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00:24:02.000Gen Z is not interested in a war with Iran at all.
00:24:07.000But I think it makes a lot of sense because this is a generation that grew up with forever wars in the Middle East.
00:24:13.660I was born in 1999, my entire childhood, we were engaged in conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:24:21.400And so I think this is a generation that looks at what's happened to our country, sees all of the problems here at home, and wants to avoid another foreign conflict at all costs.
00:24:31.720And I feel that this is actually where President Trump has always been and the MAGA movement has always been.
00:24:36.140So the idea is, I think, that Gen Z is, when they say America first, what they're really talking about is this idea that, look, and I sympathize, too, because you see people, and I think about it, it's like, oh my gosh.
00:24:54.340You know, earliest memories are 9-11, and then suddenly America has this huge rush to war in a country that wasn't involved.
00:25:03.060In 9-11, so many people die, so many people are killed, so many wounded warriors coming back, their faces scarred, their limbs blown off, fathers and mothers who are never coming home to their children, and, in fact, so many children who are never coming home to their mothers and fathers.
00:25:24.340Then you've got the global financial crisis, you've got everything with China, you've got COVID on top of that, all the rest, and suddenly it's like, wait a minute, when is my government going to do something for me?
00:25:38.300And it's sort of like, as a quote-unquote Gen Y or whatever, it's like, I can remember a time when the institution sort of made sense and the system sort of worked, and I can remember the collapse.
00:25:49.620I saw the collapse, I lived through it.
00:25:51.960But Gen Z doesn't really have that memory, do they?
00:26:15.300You have massive amounts of student debt that people are taking on.
00:26:20.000Again, there's an invasion at our border, and this means that the value of labor has dramatically gone down in this country over the years.
00:26:27.460I mean, there are so many problems facing this next generation, and we have been lied to, you're right, by our institutions over and over again, by the media, by our academic institutions, by our own government.
00:26:38.880And so this is actually a bipartisan issue, I think.
00:26:42.500I think left and right, young people in this country do not have faith in the system.
00:26:48.280And if we can't get our own house in order, if we look out into the future and say, what do we have to look forward to?
00:26:55.740How can we think about making some place on the other side of the world better?
00:26:59.740I think this is a generation that says, let's focus on what's here at home.
00:27:03.760Let's make our lives better, the American people's lives better.
00:27:07.300And then we can worry about what's happening across the country or overseas.
00:27:15.940Take the log out of your own eye before the splinter out of your neighbors.
00:27:19.860And that is exactly where this generation's at.
00:27:23.480Well, no, I think that's exactly right.
00:27:26.000And, you know, when it comes to Gen Z, then when they hear President Trump has stood up to the war lobby that was calling for these immediate strikes and was saying that we need to go in right, right now, rush, rush, rush, get into another conflict, don't negotiate, don't.
00:28:17.980Do you think then that Gen Z is going to look favorably on President Trump's decision to pump the brakes and say, hey, let's explore all the options here?
00:28:28.660And it's not just it's not just right wing Gen Z, although that's certainly true.
00:28:32.360If you look at the new right, the young energy of this party.
00:28:35.340But it's also people on the political left, young people on the political left that are looking at the situation abroad and saying we just don't want any part of this.
00:28:43.460And there's an opportunity, I think, a golden ticket opportunity for Trump to create.
00:28:47.680And I think he already has, but to truly, really cultivate it in the face of this crisis to say we are that we are a new populist movement that is bringing in people who might not necessarily be traditional neocon Republicans, might not have even been voting for Republicans in the past.
00:29:03.600And this is what he's he's been able to do.
00:29:05.280And this is what he has an opportunity to continue doing, bringing this coalition of people that is extremely unique, especially among young people when they see the bravery.
00:29:14.800I think I think there was a soundbite where he said, you know, I don't think we want a war with Iran.
00:29:17.900And it was circulating around left wing, left wing TikTok.
00:29:21.300I mean, there are people who are watching him on the political left, especially among young people saying this is an opportunity really for us to stand up for peace.
00:29:30.420And that being said, you know, President Trump also has signaled that, you know, what else can be done with those two weeks?
00:29:39.420Hey, wait a minute. There's this there's this bill that's out there.
00:29:42.420And I get that people have questions about the spending, and I certainly sympathize with that.
00:29:47.060But this goes to funding deportations.
00:29:49.540And we know that this administration and Kayleigh McEnany was out last night talking about this, that that's the number one priority for President Trump.
00:29:57.360And it has been his number one issue for the American people when they look at their list of priorities that are facing them.
00:30:04.640So, Evita, we're doing your, you know, your Gen Z whisperer, you know, analysis for us here on the program.
00:30:11.420But, you know, how does Gen Z view the deportations?
00:30:15.140Obviously, there's a split, I would imagine, between left and right.
00:30:18.760But in terms of prioritizations, deporting the, you know, 20 to 50 million illegal aliens that are here, how does Gen Z view that?
00:30:28.980Well, I think it's a good question, Jack, because I think there is there's still a political divide on this issue.
00:30:34.360But I think once you articulate to Gen Z that it's devaluing labor in this country to have massive legal and illegal immigration,
00:30:40.340they come around because they see that they don't have an economic future.
00:30:43.220I think what President Trump has been able to do since 2015 is be he is he is very culturally savvy.
00:30:51.760He is somebody who, even though he's an older guy, is able to articulate the the feelings of really of the people of this.
00:31:00.740He's able to have a pulse on the zeitgeist.
00:31:03.400And this is why what he said in in on the debate stage about ending the forever wars was so radical, but also so so resonant because it was what everybody was feeling.
00:31:14.560And I think this is a president that cares about what young people think and want.
00:31:18.620And I think if he is able to to to create a deal to make some peace in this this critical time, he is going to be deeply respected by young people.
00:31:27.020And I think he is somebody who really cares about that more than any other president, I think, ever has cared about where young people are at.
00:31:35.320This is what this president has had been able to do.
00:31:39.140And you know what it is, it's it's the president.
00:31:41.660And and I've seen it a million times and I've heard it a million times.
00:31:45.440I've seen it myself on a few brief occasions.
00:31:59.380There's a huge there's there's almost a philosophical conversation we could have.
00:32:02.960We don't have the time for it here, but there's a difference between being authoritarian and authoritative.
00:32:08.420So the left is authoritarian, you know, get your get your jab or you're going to you know, you're going to lose your job or get kicked out of the military or put your mask on.
00:32:18.540Remember, don't don't pull it down in between every every bite.
00:32:22.220You know, you go pull that massive. That's authoritarian.
00:32:23.640Authoritative means you're going to make a decision.
00:32:28.240And when you make your decision, your decision's final.
00:32:30.920But you listen, you listen, you take feedback.
00:32:35.020You understand where people's where people's feelings are, where their interests are,
00:32:39.700why they care about certain issues a certain way, why what matters to them matters high matters low.
00:32:46.940And then he makes that decision based on listening to all sources and not just one or the other.
00:32:54.000And I really think that that's why so many people across age groups and you see this with I think the exception of super seniors was the only group in some of the last polling that was anti Trump.
00:33:06.660That with every other age group, he in the last polls that I saw, he was winning in every single one of them.
00:33:13.940And earlier today, some of the polls came out and he's still riding very high at 50 percent or even over 50 percent.
00:33:21.300Last minute until the break to you, Avita Duffy.
00:33:23.520Well, I think diversity of thought is really important.
00:33:26.440It's definitely something that this president values, Jack.
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00:35:59.520We're on with Evita Duffy and just an incredible independent voice out there on Gen Z and really on conservatism as we move into the new age and the new Trump era.
00:36:11.960Evita, I've got to ask you about this, that one of the biggest things that I've noticed looking at this Iran conflict is the massive generational split that you do seem to see on this issue.
00:36:24.900And one of the things that I noticed in the crosstabs of a poll that I was looking at the other day was it also showed a split in terms of where people get their news from.
00:36:36.260Do you think that that's something that's driving a lot of the difference of opinion on this issue?
00:36:42.180Well, I think that's definitely something that's happening, Jack.
00:36:45.640I mean, if you look at what the mainstream media is, I mean, you're an alt media, it's a monolith.
00:36:49.500I mean, there's really not a lot of diversity of thought that's happening.
00:36:53.240The Internet has democratized information and suddenly people who don't have the backing of a major media corporation are able to garner a massive following and create an audience of people who trust them as an individual, as a voice.
00:37:06.920And this is where Gen Z is getting their news, and it's radically different from where the boomer generation are getting their news.
00:37:13.580And I'll say, Jack, I think there's a lot of animosity between the generations.
00:37:18.220A lot of young people will say, oh, those boomers or they're called older women Karens, and a lot of older people get offended by that.
00:37:25.720I tend to view boomers, frankly, as victims of a system.
00:37:30.180I don't necessarily blame them, as a lot of young people do.
00:37:33.060I think the reason that they have these opinions about foreign wars or their trust in media that is not very trustworthy is it's been a long time, generations, decades of psyoping that I think is deeply unfair for the boomer generation.
00:37:51.100And this newer generation that's waking up and realizing, this isn't the America of my parents and grandparents.
00:37:58.000And it's going to take some time, I think, for a lot of them to come over.
00:38:01.100But I think President Trump, actually, in 2016, articulating things like, hey, there were no weapons of mass destruction, has been an amazing place to start.
00:38:10.360Well, you know, and I had Raheem Kassam on here the other day, and we had a conversation about that, where we were speaking sort of to Gen Z as, you know, a couple of Gen Y guys saying, look, we remember what it was like in those early days.
00:38:25.140I was 17, going on 18 that year, and Raheem was, I think, 16, going on 17, and something like that.
00:38:33.640And I just remember this war fervor of, you know, we've got to stop Saddam.
00:38:48.620We look at so much in terms of the finances, the money, the blood, the treasure, the people that never came back, the people that were broken, and our politics that was completely devastated in this country.
00:39:05.160Because there was this horrific event like 9-11, that the neocons came in and then essentially emotionally manipulated using emotional blackmail to win public opinion to their side.
00:39:20.100And I'm not saying that's what's going on now, but I am saying that a lot of us view the current world through that lens.
00:39:28.580This is, maybe I shouldn't share the story, but I'm going to share it with you guys anyways.
00:39:32.500I was in D.C. a few days ago, and I was talking to somebody in the Trump admin who's pretty high up, and my husband made a joke, and he said, I don't want to spend my summer in Tehran.
00:39:45.420And this individual said, well, don't you want to die for your country?
00:39:50.480And I think that there's a lot of older individuals, even many in the Trump admin, who think that this generation just isn't patriotic, and they don't love America.
00:39:59.840And that's why they don't want to go overseas and fight for this country.
00:40:04.280And really what it is, is a disconnect between what's happened in the last few decades and what the perception is among older people.
00:40:12.760Because there was really nothing accomplished in the Middle Eastern wars that we've had over the last few years.
00:40:26.140Younger Americans are awake to this, and it's not that they're unpatriotic.
00:40:30.900If there was a real imminent threat coming to this country, I know that the young boys in America who are in their early 20s, 18, 19, they would go and fight.