00:10:31.860What's going on, brother? Good to see you again.
00:10:34.480Great to see you. Well, man, I did not look when we booked you today.
00:10:38.260I said, let's do a Ukraine update. I had no idea we were going to see the news that we're seeing this morning.
00:10:44.060I want to get your initial reaction to it.
00:10:46.260The fact that Zelensky saying that he is now willing to agree to, number one,
00:10:51.280freeze the conflict along the current contact line, prepare to sign a deal to end the war.
00:10:58.340And it looks like give up the future claims to those territories, because prior to this, he had never said that he would be willing to give up any claim to those territories.
00:11:09.280And of course, you know, this is this is the Eastern Europe.
00:11:12.120So I'm not going to say that those territories are, you know, especially in a place like the borderlands is ever going to be static, shall we say.
00:11:20.700But the fact of the matter is, being willing to sign this at a crucial time for the United States, I'm just saying it.
00:11:28.480I'm going to call it right now. President Trump's October surprise might be ending the Ukraine war.
00:11:33.740I think you're absolutely right. And also, it seems like Zelensky is learning the lesson, finally, that was given to him, what, about a year and a half ago?
00:11:42.440the Oval Office with President Trump and Vice President Vance, as we remember that, you know,
00:11:48.660horrific meeting that's right there playing in your stock footage. It looks like that lesson
00:11:52.800finally has been learned. And it's one of those things where, look, you got to hand it to the
00:11:57.500Ukrainians, is they fought quite bravely. They exceeded everyone's expectation. Obviously,
00:12:03.820they had a lot of help and support from the United States and our partners in Europe and whatnot.
00:12:08.480But it's like, look, the killing just needs to end.
00:12:11.960Like how many hundreds of thousands, millions of Ukrainian men and Russian men, frankly, have been dying.
00:12:18.760And it is what in many ways is almost practically a civil war in many ways.
00:12:23.300And now it's finally looks like it might be ending.
00:12:26.660And I think that's tremendous news for everyone.
00:12:29.240I think it's tremendous news for Ukraine, for the Russians and for the United States.
00:12:33.160You're absolutely right. That very well could be the October surprise we were all thinking of.
00:12:38.480Well, I couldn't agree more. And I was actually at the White House that day when all that took place and had just come from had just come from Ukraine a couple of weeks before when that happened, where I was with Secretary Besant.
00:12:53.360when Besant had gone over and we went in with the terms of the mineral deal, the original mineral
00:12:59.400deal between Trump and Zelensky. And it was this huge U.S. deal. And the idea was that that was
00:13:05.080going to be the first entree to an economic partnership between Ukraine and the United
00:13:10.300States, then move to Russia and use that as a broad basket of diplomacy and economic, cultural,
00:13:16.240et cetera, to be able to wind things down. Zelensky basically threw Besant out of his
00:13:21.300presidential palace there in Ukraine. And it got pretty heavy, got pretty heated. That's all been
00:13:27.780now reported afterwards. And basically, we had to ride a train for hours upon hours for little to
00:13:34.780no actual gain whatsoever to be achieved. And the Secretary of Treasury is not going to ride a train
00:13:39.900for 16 hours if he had been told that he wasn't going to get a deal. So I don't think that bought
00:13:45.980a lot of goodwill with the administration right off the bat. And certainly when he was thrown out
00:13:51.760of the Oval Office, didn't wear a suit, et cetera, people remember the whole thing. It just didn't
00:13:56.560go well. As President Trump said, you don't have the cards. So, so looking at this though, Tom,
00:14:02.820with the United States now coming in and people said, well, you know, they're saying, oh, the
00:14:08.320diesel deal, like it's, it's not that big. It's, you know, it's not that much diesel. I think
00:14:13.080that it's actually bigger than people realize because the United States has not had this level
00:14:18.000of economic ties with Russia for years. And the idea that we would be doing any diplomacy or any
00:14:25.280economic deals, let alone diesel, which by the way, backed in the U S dollars, we're giving them
00:14:31.740U S dollars. Um, it's, it's a shot across the bow to bricks. And perhaps as president Trump has said
00:14:37.360for a long time that the best way to have a peace with russia is to normalize relations with russia
00:14:43.660kind of crazy right yeah no it is and also keep mind it's like look this isn't me speaking as
00:14:50.200some like fan of putin or anything like that but also keep in mind that they still are a significant0.92
00:14:56.960power in the world and what has this war done you know it's driven them into the arms of china and0.96
00:15:03.200even like Iran, North Korea, you know, and these are folks that we don't necessarily want on China's0.94
00:15:09.340side, especially China. That's what so much of this is about. And frankly, I would be very,0.98
00:15:14.440very happy with, you know, detente or just being frenemies even with the Russians, because right0.54
00:15:21.480now when you have a power like China allied itself or getting closer ties with China against us and
00:15:27.920our friends, like that's not good for business. That's not good for diplomacy. That's not good
00:15:31.660for geopolitics at all. So I'm just really trying to put a realistic lens on all of this. You can
00:15:36.760say what you want about Putin and how terrible he is and all that. And sure. And maybe it's true.
00:15:42.280Maybe the worst of it is true. But the thing is, I was like, look, we don't necessarily always have
00:15:46.280friends. We have interests. And that's what has to happen. Ask me what is best for the American
00:15:50.680people. And what that is, is not allying. Some of these are adversaries with each other. We want to
00:15:57.180drive, if anything, we want to drive a wedge between them. And so now with us maybe having
00:16:03.280a deal of some sort when it comes to energy or anything like that with Russia, this is good for0.53
00:16:08.560the United States. America first, right? No, as simple as that. And by the way,0.98
00:16:16.880that I'm going to put this out again, that where were the Russian diplomats seen earlier this week?
00:16:25.420Like, oh, that's right. It was Lavrov having a huge sit down meeting in Tehran with Rajji, the Iranian foreign minister.
00:16:35.600So, again, this is something where, you know, if we open up a little bit to the Russians, perhaps they can help us with some things that are directly.
00:16:44.980So Iran is a much more close issue for Russia than it ever was for the United States because they share a border.
00:16:53.460they're literally right there in their backyard and so this is why moscow and tehran have the
00:16:59.520relations that they do so yes perhaps one thing that we can do if we open up just just a little
00:17:05.420bit again diplomatically speaking that they can help us because of their leverage on the iranians
00:17:10.900yeah it's like if you do you know you scratch my back i'll scratch yours that doesn't need
00:17:15.300necessarily mean that we got to be friends or anything but that's how this game is played it's
00:17:20.020fairly straightforward and i think one of the issues that dealing with some of these other
00:17:24.620countries they're much more realists right real politic and all that than they are idealists it's
00:17:30.480a huge issue right i mean and it's so much that something that you see so many other folks
00:17:35.580particularly on the left love screaming about how the way things ought to be and look i'm more
00:17:42.040concerned with how the way things are and i think the american people are more concerned with the
00:17:46.580way things are and actually making you know making things realistically better and that's
00:17:52.280something that president trump and his team particularly steve whitkoff has been really
00:17:55.940been able to do and so i i applaud them i'm really happy about this news this is great
00:18:01.400like ending a war finally we're finally getting something done here so i think that's great news
00:18:06.400for us well and not like that obviously for the president from a perspective of having
00:18:13.600voters going to the polls. Voters are going to the polls in Texas. Their early voting has
00:18:17.880started in North Carolina as well. There's a number of states where you've got farmers like
00:18:23.720Iowa, Kansas. You've got Ashley Hinson. You've got Roger Marshall, Susan Collins up in Maine,0.72
00:18:28.980of course. You've got where she has lobstermen. There's also a ton of agriculture up in Maine.
00:18:34.880Those lobster boats, they run on diesel, boys and girls. And these are key things that are
00:18:40.860going to come up in the race. And so when you run political campaigns, if you have those late
00:18:48.200breaking undecided voters who, yes, they do exist, or by the way, voters that you need to motivate to
00:18:53.660get off their butt to go out, that you need to win the last couple of news cycles. And there's
00:18:58.740no question to me that this is a win for President Trump at a time where it is crucial to him to put
00:19:07.200some points on the board right before this election. Right back, Jack Posobiec, Human
00:19:29.880Today, you know, they talk about influencers. These are influencers, and they're friends of mine.
00:19:35.920Jack Posobiec. Where's Jack? Jack. He's done a great job.
00:19:45.220All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back live, Real America's Voice. Now, of course, we're talking
00:19:50.640about Ukraine, Russia, but one of the other headlines that we saw to Russia recently
00:19:54.660was this mysterious incident at a Siberian lab, which apparently focused on the plague.
00:20:01.340This was a young researcher who died from an unexplained lung infection and nearly 200 people were placed under medical watch.
00:20:09.060And we know that reports of a second illness are only adding to the questions.
00:20:13.360Well, here's the problem. When a story comes from that part of the world, the answers don't always come easy.
00:20:19.340Now, Moscow says there's no plague case or no lab accident.
00:20:22.960Yes, of course, the cause of death remains unconfirmed and the details do keep shifting.
00:20:27.220The world is still waiting. What is the straight answer? What's going on?
00:20:31.340A lot of questions, a lot of people watching, and as always, not enough transparency.
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00:21:23.920So Tom Sauer, I want to bring you back in here on Real America's Voice to talk about
00:24:13.920And clearly, because of both sides on this, they didn't want to quit, right?
00:24:19.440Tom, let's just say that that part of the world is not exactly known for backing down.
00:24:23.580And speaking as a Slavic guy myself, we're not exactly known for our for our our diplomacy, if you know what I mean.
00:24:33.260Quite quite the opposite. I would say it's it's pretty much like this is the bloodlands of Eastern Europe.0.72
00:24:39.380There's there's no question. And every rock, every blade of grass, every inch has been fought over since time immemorial in that area.
00:24:48.060And that's why, from the American perspective, when I put my America first hat on, right, is to say it's in America's best interest simply to say we want peace.
00:25:00.240And the thing is, to consider something is like just, you know, you and I are both history and geography guys.
00:25:04.920Right. And, you know, if you look at the map and you think about history, both Russia and Ukraine,
00:25:10.200which have been either the same country or very closely related countries for a long time,
00:25:16.780their history is defined by repelling invaders for a thousand years, maybe, maybe more.
00:25:25.500So, you know, you think about that, like that is just such a part of a blood memory that's just ingrained into all of them is that fight for territory.
00:25:33.680And mostly it has a lot to do with the fact that there are very few natural borders that
00:25:38.500that country has that entire, you know, you can go from what, from Warsaw all the way
00:25:42.420to Moscow with like crossing one river, a couple of rivers.
00:27:55.900Jack Posobiec, Human Events, Daily Real America's Voice.
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00:29:27.000I want to bring on the people's pundit, Rich Barris, because Rich, we're going through the
00:29:32.140numbers. You, of course, have all the numbers at your fingertips constantly. And I want to talk
00:29:37.280to you about voting and some of the early voting that's come in some of these late breaking polls.
00:29:41.100But, Rich, I really have to ask you the breaking news this morning between the United States,
00:29:46.380Ukraine, Zelensky, Putin's got Steve Wyckoff over there. And on the back of the diesel deal,
00:29:53.640which, you know, some folks have been extremely vociferous about, shall we say, that suddenly
00:29:59.700it looks like there's a thaw in the relationship. And it looks like you got Zelensky coming out now
00:30:05.620saying that he wants to freeze the the conflict along the current contact lines along the current
00:30:11.900front lines and would commit to a peace deal rich is it possible that we could see an october
00:30:17.820surprise of president trump ending the ukraine war thanks for having me as always brother look
00:30:23.200you know when i'm not wearing the vest i'm feeling a little scrappy this is this i this could not
00:30:28.880have come i thought the vest was the one that made you scrappy i got it all backwards that's
00:30:33.040That's the thing. That civilizes me. That reminds me to be civilized, brother. That's like my Christian faith, okay? It reminds me to be civil to other people. But I will not, you know, be too civil right now because you heard it. You have faced it. The president has been facing it for days over this diesel deal. You knew what he was doing. I knew what he was doing. President Zelensky goes out there and he says, of course we're winning the war, but we're losing people.
00:30:58.820All of a sudden he cares about bleeding Ukraine dry. Look, this president Trump knew what he was doing and this could not have come at a better time. This is what it means to put America first. All right. Russia phobia in this country is going to be the end of us. Our rational decision making because of some forced in it's an it's not organic. It's inorganic forced upon Russia phobia.
00:31:21.900Vladimir Putin does not have to be a good guy to make sure that we're not foolishly pushing our enemies into the arms of our other enemies so they create bandwagoning coalitions and balancing coalitions that balance against us to the point where we can't maintain the superior status that we have.
00:31:41.380We cannot deal with those countries aligned against us like that.
00:31:44.700This war put that at risk and at jeopardy.
00:34:12.300And on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, you can't even begin to deal with the stuff that's at the top of that period, pyramid, self-actualization, and all that, and all this morality talk in foreign policy, if you can't get past the first row in the period, which, of course, is your basic needs.
00:34:34.720Why did all you boys get in bed with Stalin, Piers?
00:34:37.280Why did all you boys get in bed with Stalin? I mean, this is ridiculous. It's hypocritical. It's nonsensical. It's irrational. And that's the word that we use in international relations. You know that it's irrational.1.00
00:34:49.060And Rich, we're seeing we're seeing these images now coming in of you got Wyckoff over in St. Petersburg.
00:34:55.520You have this American prisoner, Hubbard, who's been released.
00:35:18.140nothing. Why wouldn't you want to try to bring an American home, a POW home? It's really as1.00
00:35:23.900simple as that. And yes, I understand he was not, it's not, um, now because he's not a member of
00:35:29.280the U S military, then there's different, uh, that's, that's uniform code of military justice
00:35:33.720comes out. It does come out differently on that. Um, the, and it's, it's a different law or a
00:35:38.500different Geneva convention. If you are as a mercenary, you don't get any of those protections,
00:35:43.360But whatever. He's an American. OK, he's American. Rich, you understand that as as as a prior military officer, why it's important that we say that, though, of course.
00:35:52.520So let me just let me just say this real quick. All right. He he's if he pulls this off, Jack. All right.
00:35:58.800Because you're right. It's not about foreign policy. And I really need to get this point across the Biden and the Democrats lost control of the White House and got brutalized in 2024 because of war and instability and the economic pain that comes along with that.
00:36:13.900President Trump then got inaugurated and said, I will be a peacemaker and a unifier. If he pulls this off, I will go to the White House and tap dance for him. If he pulls this off before the election, I swear, that's how strongly I feel about it, because it really is that simple.
00:36:27.940We try to overcomplicate this stuff in politics, but people are mad or were mad at the Republican Party and they're facing the headwinds they are because this is what they wanted to see.
00:36:37.920And yet there's this faction that just drums up this nonsense every time this man tries to make peace.
00:36:43.440The MOU comes out. His approval rating bumps 10 points. The generic ballot closes by four. The vice president's favorability ratings go positive again. And they have to do what, Jack? Sabotage it and then just throw it, just drive it right back into the into the grave again. It's insane. All right. And it's like they're impervious to data. This is amazing news. It's amazing. October 21st. And this is before we get to the break. And you're right. People are people are already going to vote in North Carolina.
00:37:11.640people are already going to vote in Texas. And this is an opportunity. I think that these are
00:37:17.780the kind of headlines. If you're a president, the idea of going to peace, no, it's, it's not
00:37:21.900the same as going to peace in Iran, obviously. And I'm not, I'm not saying it is, but these are
00:37:26.260the kind of headlines that you want that president Trump is putting diplomacy first. And perhaps,
00:37:32.020perhaps this idea that, you know, the Ukraine war has been his white whale since day one of
00:37:37.860entering office that perhaps he has it in his sights it's it's this is a really good political
00:37:42.640play for the president to have as people go to the polls and he knows he's spoken to them i've
00:37:47.420spoken to them if you're certain iowa farmers for instance right and we have tight senate races in
00:37:53.000in iowa right now it looks to me like ashley hinson is is about to pull ahead if you have
00:37:58.880some disaffected iowa farmers who supported president trump and they're it's not even you
00:38:03.160know they're getting they're hurting from diesel prices and and everything else you may say and the
00:38:07.700fertilizer by the way the fertilizer also comes out of that region come on that also comes out
00:38:13.980rich rich barris give me one second because i want to hold over this is an important conversation
00:38:18.720president trump possible the october surprise ending the ukraine war we'll see you right back
00:38:57.560So, Rich, we're talking about how some of these news headlines coming out today with the president, with Witkoff over there, this.
00:39:05.620And I'm just going to call it, I'm going to call it diplomatic breakthrough.
00:39:07.940This is a diplomatic breakthrough that the president has achieved on the Ukraine war.
00:39:13.400And that is clearly the definition of it.
00:39:15.820You've got you've got economic exchange taking place, by the way, in U.S. dollars.
00:39:20.100And the fact that the United States of America is buying is buying diesel from Russia and U.S.-backed dollars is a real excuse me.
00:39:28.920U.S. dollar back transactions is a huge piece of information for the financial markets, for the petrodollar system.
00:39:36.680I really hope everyone understands that potentially an opening with Russia, which, of course, you know, Piers Morgan wanted to tell me it's not a big deal.
00:39:45.100I think that's a huge deal when you've got the two of the world's leading powers, you know, who at one point just a couple of years ago were potentially pointing nukes at each other.
00:39:55.500Now suddenly are doing deals again. That's the kind of stuff you want.
00:39:59.480Prisoners are being released. Steve Whitcoff, number one trend on Twitter.
00:40:03.000These are the kind of headlines that the president wants.
00:40:05.060rich and let's let's not prognosticate too much though but let's say in a close election like
00:40:10.700this and some of those those elections um ashley hinson maybe even roger marshall down over there
00:40:16.540in kansas are who else do you think oh susan collins i just mentioned up in maine how it
00:40:21.120helps with the lobstermen um who else do you think could potentially be helped if you're in a really
00:40:26.440tight race getting getting some headlines and news cycles that break your way this uh as we're
00:40:31.240seeing i mean literally everybody i mean this is and and look the president's people know this
00:40:37.300the problem right now and we can see it even in the early vote republicans need to vote it's not
00:40:42.980that they can't pull off some of these races jack they could seriously hold the senate there's a path
00:40:47.260to do that that what's what's stopping us from doing that voting we need more people to vote
00:40:52.300what causes disaffection worse than anything pain economic pain jack it's that simple going to the
00:40:57.980gas pump and saying, oh man, another $80, another $70. If the president's fighting for you,
00:41:04.480you fight for him. It really is that simple. But yeah, I mean, when you're talking about
00:41:08.760specifically on the map, you just brought up Marshall. We shouldn't even be in a position
00:41:12.460where defending Kansas and Marshall. I don't care. You could talk to me about who's a better
00:41:17.020candidate, who's not. It's Kansas. We should not be here. The Plain States, big deal. And they have
00:41:22.780been swinging before. We saw this in 06. There were a lot of big swings out there. But again,
00:41:27.980Hinson to me is a huge one just from all of the personal interviews I've done with Iowa farmers
00:41:33.200out there. The president just anyone who goes and listens to how Zelensky spoke this morning.
00:41:39.480And when I say this morning, I mean, obviously, it's our morning now, but about seven hours,
00:41:43.780eight hours ago, you go and listen to the comments that he delivered. You never heard
00:41:47.300Vladimir Zelensky talk like that, Jack. That's real narrative change. Then people start to hear
00:41:52.480that and digest it. They're like, oh, there's my boy. There's Trump. There's my boy. He's trying
00:41:57.160to make peace. He's doing it. He's fighting. He's he's fighting the good fight. Maybe I will vote
00:42:01.580after all people work that way. It really is that simple. So I think it's a bigger deal than people
00:42:07.480think it is. I really do. Jack, I do. Everywhere. I kind of agree with you because I remember this.
00:42:16.260I'll say for what it was, you know, people people can go. And, you know, I was there with
00:42:21.180secretary Besson in the early stages of 2025, going to Kiev, sitting down with Zelensky in
00:42:29.040the presidential palace in Kiev on the mineral deal, which, which everybody forgets that
00:42:34.500Zelensky was offered the deal first way long before there was ever a deal with Putin was
00:42:39.560even in the works that they went to Zelensky, you know, just based on the predicate relationship
00:42:44.160and the fact that, and I always point this out that Zelensky stuck with Trump in 2019
00:42:49.100in the first impeachment. Of course, nobody listened to him back then because, you know,
00:42:53.240he hadn't become Captain America yet. But at the end of the day, that this was something that had
00:43:00.100been in the works. And I think people had always expected that if President Trump was not getting
00:43:05.000what he wanted out of this, that he would have put leverage on Putin, but then also put leverage
00:43:09.520on Zelensky and everyone expected him to do that. That's what we saw when he threw Zelensky out of
00:43:15.120the Oval Office. But then it just it kind of went back to the wayside. There were a lot of things
00:43:21.000obviously that came up. Iran happened, et cetera, et cetera. It felt like the Ukraine war had been
00:43:27.800something that people had been focused on so much in 2024. And it completely took the back burner
00:43:34.760for the big chunk of, like, say, the midpoint of 2025 to the midpoint of 2026. And now suddenly
00:43:41.700the president with, what, a couple of phone calls and probably some moves behind the scenes as well,
00:43:46.540I'm sure, was able to achieve this breakthrough. And now you got Wyckoff sitting there in St.
00:43:53.020Petersburg, bringing an American home. I'm sure the president's going to meet him when they get
00:43:56.280to Andrews. And this is really something, to your point, Rich, that again, oh, by the way,
00:44:03.100if we're, you know, making deals with Russia on here, perhaps, just perhaps, we also, where do
00:44:08.800we just see lavrov right because i always watch where these guys go lavrov was just in tehran
00:44:14.380that's the connection that perhaps he can go through the russians to get what he wants out
00:44:21.060of the iranians and because who's got pressure on them and leverage of course it's the russians
00:44:26.260that's how you do diplomacy it's really simple isn't it it is and when president trump is doing
00:44:32.340his thing he's really good at it you know i hear a lot of people i think it might have even have
00:44:36.540been peers uh so i don't want to falsely attribute something to somebody but i heard somebody during
00:44:41.560one of these debates about the diesel deal say well actually he's not very good at this no actually
00:44:46.080he is he's really and the american people knew that which is one of the biggest uh you know
00:44:52.020attractions to his candidacy candidacy was uh his very different approach and their their belief
00:44:58.420that he was a very good deal maker and if you go back to his true social posts if you go back to
00:45:02.660his campaign speeches what was missing from what he was his promises and what he said when i get in
00:45:08.240there i'll do this what was missing from it was this like i said this irrational one-sided uh you
00:45:14.840know in order to make a deal we can only put pressure on one side we can only do this now
00:45:19.420look the american people were sympathetic to the ukrainian people for sure they were sympathetic
00:45:24.000to zelinski for sure but they were not there that sympathy did not extend forever it's not infinite
00:45:30.660They do not want to continue to pay for a war out there.
00:45:33.100So when you heard Donald Trump say, when I get in office, I will end that war.
00:45:36.520I'll get them in the, you know, I'll get them in the room.
00:45:57.040Is this the kind of move that makes people perhaps not want to burn it down as much?
00:46:05.860Yeah, look, young people, a lot of the voters that we're looking at right now that, you know, Trump won.
00:46:11.820He this is all this is the story. It's all over the map.
00:46:15.300A lot of younger Trump voters, Republicans need that and they can't stand war.
00:46:20.400They can't stand economic disruption if it hurts them.
00:46:23.580They want it because they want to tear a system down that they feel is against them.
00:46:27.660What what is one of the attributes of that system?
00:46:30.240A constant ignoring of their own needs and their own desires for this order, this global order that just runs on war and runs on lobby, Jack.
00:46:39.100And this is this flies in the face of this.
00:46:41.580Well, and to your point, ending conflict and getting it, putting America first, addressing their economic pain.
00:46:47.320This is, in a sense, along with the thesis of your book, this is burning it down because what's being burned down here is the edifice of the neoconservative, neoliberal, pro-war establishment.0.95
00:46:59.160The people who are screaming their heads off, saying we need more war and more body bags and more dead white Christians, by the way.0.96
00:47:08.380And always is, always is the Christians to take it on the brunt of this every single time.0.99
00:47:13.560And you see what's happened in the Middle East with every single Christian village, every single, you know, just outpost of Christianity that still exists amongst the Sea of Islam.0.95
00:47:22.320And and rich now all of a sudden what's being burnt down is their power structure.0.96
00:47:27.120Last minute to you because you had the thesis on this.
00:47:30.420And that's why they flip out the way they do.
00:47:32.500You know, and that's why, you know, they demand that they ignore the will and the needs of the voters because they really don't know what to do when that order comes down.
00:47:41.940jack that is the that is uh they're used to being the center of the universe and getting what they
00:47:47.320want and having the world operate the way they do uh the way it does they don't know how to move on
00:47:52.980they don't know how to course correct they don't know how to step into a new world where we say
00:47:57.060okay let's have almost like a detente with russia it's okay if donald trump has a relationship with
00:48:03.700putin they don't have to be best friends he doesn't have to be a great guy these younger voters
00:48:07.520that we talk about and burn it down, Jack,