Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 01, 2026


Tyler Robinson Denied, Trump - Iran Negotiations Update and the DNC Autopsy


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00:00:52.900 Christ is king!
00:00:54.400 This is a live look outside of the New Jersey ICE facility that has become the center of this
00:00:59.160 national conversation tonight. We are watching the protesters clashing with ICE officers and
00:01:04.240 law enforcement, rallying against what they are calling inhumane conditions inside of that
00:01:09.860 facility. The Department of Homeland Security denying those claims, essentially calling this
00:01:15.040 a smear campaign. The Kennedy Center will soon once again be the Kennedy Center. On Friday,
00:01:20.720 A federal judge ordered President Trump's name to be removed in the next two weeks, saying, quote, Congress gave the Kennedy Center its name and only Congress can change it.
00:01:30.540 U.S. Central Command announcing the military has launched measured and deliberate strikes against three targets in Iran.
00:01:37.440 Iran claims to have retaliated with an attack of its own.
00:01:40.760 As Kuwait says, more missiles and drones entered its airspace early this morning.
00:01:44.840 President Trump posting on social media earlier today, Iran really wants to make a deal and it will be a good one for the USA, end quote.
00:01:54.460 You could hear air raid sirens overnight in Kuwait as that country had to fend off drone and missile attacks.
00:02:01.440 After Iran took out a U.S. Reaper drone, U.S. forces struck a number of military targets in Iran. 0.99
00:02:08.740 We're making a great deal. We're going to make a great deal. We'll just go back and finish it off militarily.
00:02:13.660 President Trump maintains a deal is close. As the New York Times reported, he made revisions in the latest proposal to end the war.
00:02:21.560 Overnight, the president posted on Truth Social, just sit back and relax. It will all work out well in the end. It always does.
00:02:29.020 The reports out of Iran claim President Massoud Peshachian has submitted his resignation, saying his government has been sidelined by hardline factions.
00:02:38.560 Now, meanwhile, as we continue to track developments in the Middle East,
00:02:41.720 Iran says it has stopped exchanging messages with the U.S. through a mediator
00:02:46.000 until Israel agrees to halt its military operations in Lebanon.
00:02:50.300 Defendant Tyler James Robinson seeks to close portions, if not all, of the preliminary hearing.
00:02:56.820 Several methods remain available to protect the defendant's right to a fair trial,
00:03:01.720 including enlarging the veneer of potential jurors, utilizing detailed juror questionnaires,
00:03:07.800 in conducting thorough or dire, all methods routinely used to safeguard a defendant's
00:03:13.240 constitutional rights. For these reasons, the court respectfully denies defendant's motion.
00:03:21.300 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We're here live
00:03:25.760 on Real America's Voice. Today is June 1st, 2026. Anno, Dominique, we've got a jam-packed show for
00:03:33.600 you today. Folks, here's right off the top. And this is big. This is very big. Judge Graff has
00:03:42.580 just ruled about an hour ago, hour and a half, maybe Tyler Robinson's trial, the preliminary
00:03:48.600 hearing of said trial will be going forward and will be televised. It will be televised. Yes,
00:03:58.100 The public will have transparency. This was a huge fight. They're already trying to appeal this. They're already trying to get this off the books. Tyler Robinson's lawyers do not want you to see the courtroom. They don't want you to see their client. They don't want you to see the evidence. They don't want you to see the exhibits. They don't want you to see anything. They want you in the dark.
00:04:19.220 They want a conspiracy of silence, a conspiracy of censorship.
00:04:25.580 We ain't about it.
00:04:26.940 Human Events was the very first organization to call for full transparency in this case.
00:04:35.200 Human Events Daily.
00:04:37.400 This show, this organization was named in court by Tyler Robinson's lawyers.
00:04:45.200 And you know something?
00:04:46.580 You went down.
00:04:48.920 You went down.
00:04:51.580 You came after human events and you got put down.
00:04:55.040 All right?
00:04:56.040 How'd that work out for you?
00:04:57.820 How did that go?
00:04:59.580 Not the way you wanted.
00:05:00.900 No, I don't think so.
00:05:02.560 No, you went down.
00:05:04.260 You went down in flames.
00:05:06.720 It's really simple, folks.
00:05:09.140 This is about the public having the ability to see what happened.
00:05:13.920 Why are you so worried about the public being able to see the truth?
00:05:17.740 Why are you so worried about the public being able to see for themselves the evidence in this case, the murder case of Charlie Kirk?
00:05:29.780 That you wanted to put it behind closed doors, you want to turn the cameras off, you wanted the exhibits to be hidden from the public.
00:05:37.740 Now, Charlie's murder was public for the entire world to see.
00:05:44.980 And Charlie didn't get a choice in that.
00:05:47.500 He didn't have a say in that.
00:05:48.820 No.
00:05:51.340 His kids are going to have to watch that one day.
00:05:54.260 It's just the way these things go.
00:05:58.100 And so, if that's to be the case,
00:06:02.320 then the trial should be fully public as well.
00:06:06.280 Fully public.
00:06:07.820 He lived his life, Charlie lived his life in the public eye.
00:06:11.140 Charlie's death was in the public eye.
00:06:12.580 the least the very least that is owed and it doesn't cover it but the very least that is owed
00:06:23.240 that all of this is done in public as well so why are they trying to hide it why are they trying to
00:06:29.080 do a close behind closed doors why are they trying to pull the curtain over this trying to put up a
00:06:32.940 smoke screen yeah i think we all know why it's because their client keeps smirking and smiling
00:06:40.780 and giggling in court because he's not remorseful he hasn't shown any remorse not one time have we
00:06:52.140 seen a letter or anything i'm so sorry for what happened to the family i'm so sorry that they're
00:06:58.340 going through this not one sign of it not one sign at all they can't control him because he's not sad
00:07:08.540 He's proud of what he did.
00:07:12.240 And that is why he will face justice for what he did.
00:07:16.620 We'll be right back, Human Events.
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00:09:21.900 Ton of news today.
00:09:23.520 Massive, massive win, of course, in court with Tyler Robinson.
00:09:27.100 And it can't be denied that this was a huge blow to his defense and their motion, which, quite frankly, I never thought had any any real credence to it.
00:09:38.700 I didn't think it was going to win. But you never know. Carmelo Anthony, for example, Carmelo Anthony's trial is taking place today down in Texas, and it is opening up.
00:09:47.180 I believe they're beginning jury selection of what year today. And that is not going to be televised.
00:09:51.920 that is not taking place on the big screen. And I think we all know why the same reason that the
00:09:57.860 footage has not been released. And the judge claimed that, Oh, we're worried about media
00:10:02.360 sensationalism and media, uh, you know, media response. No, what you're worried about is people
00:10:08.620 actually seeing the truth and you're worried that people won't be able to handle it just like the,
00:10:14.300 uh, you know, quintessential Aaron Sorkin line there. And so you are going to, you're, you're,
00:10:20.260 you're not going to get it. You're just not going to get it. And it's sad. It's really, really,
00:10:27.980 really sad. So we're digging into that. Of course, Tina Peters, she was released today.
00:10:33.620 Incredible, incredible news. But then, of course, of course, we have to go back to Iran, a flurry 0.99
00:10:39.760 of news as of last night into this morning and even up to just a few minutes ago, Iran threatening
00:10:45.920 to potentially continue strikes to, and even to threaten to strike Israel, northern Israel,
00:10:52.760 if Israel continues its bombardment of Beirut, the suburbs there, as well as southern Lebanon.
00:10:59.160 They've said if Israel doesn't commit to a ceasefire in southern Lebanon,
00:11:02.920 that they will no longer commit to a ceasefire vis-a-vis Israel.
00:11:09.920 And there were some news that Iran may be shutting down their talks.
00:11:13.980 However, President Trump, just minutes before we went to air here on Human Events Daily, posted up a Truth Social saying that talks are continuing. 0.92
00:11:23.080 And in fact, President Trump said earlier today, in fact, late last night, that like one in the morning, that it's the pannikins who are terrified of this thing working out and to let him do his work.
00:11:36.540 So he says right here, talks are continuing at a rapid pace with the Islamic Republic of Iran. 0.60
00:11:40.980 Thank you for your attention. This matter, President Donald J. Trump.
00:11:44.020 I want to get Matt Boyle in here. He's the bureau chief of Breitbart for Washington, D.C.
00:11:50.400 Matt, how are you doing? Well, Jack, how are you, sir?
00:11:54.360 I'm doing well. So I know you're just back from Europe, but can you can you go through just sort of, you know, where do things stand with Iran as it is right now?
00:12:04.540 You know, people said, wait a minute. We were told a deal was on the table last week.
00:12:08.280 i was on a call background call with senior white house officials and others where they were up
00:12:13.100 saying that it looked like a deal was coming now all of a sudden missiles are flying again
00:12:16.780 trump says the talks are going what's going on this is the art of the deal baby we got the best
00:12:22.640 deal maker in the white house all time right like this is why when we do get a deal with iran and
00:12:29.240 we're gonna get one right like i'm very confident in president trump when we get a deal with iran
00:12:34.300 it is going to blow away the JCPOA, the Barack Obama failed Iran deal that put Iran on a pathway
00:12:41.540 to a nuclear weapon. President Trump's deal with Iran, when it comes together, will ensure that
00:12:47.240 Iran will never get a nuclear weapon, right? And so it's very simple. They can never have one,
00:12:53.240 ever, ever, ever, right? And so I'm very confident in President Trump. He's going to achieve his
00:13:00.060 objective um the this is why we elected president trump he's not a forever war president but he
00:13:05.400 understood that look at where they were right with the enrichment okay they were doing 60 percent or
00:13:10.200 north of that that's nuclear weapons material baby that ain't nuclear power okay nuclear power is like
00:13:15.560 two or three percent all right so the the fact of the matter is is that they were clearly moving
00:13:21.480 towards a nuclear weapon so the president had to act he acted he achieved the objective he's had a
00:13:26.740 great military victory and now we're in the end game right and this is this is how it goes right 0.99
00:13:31.580 the negotiations are bumpy especially when you're dealing with the Iranians I get it like they're 0.94
00:13:35.580 gonna be volleying back and forth but keep the faith in President Trump he's gonna land this 0.99
00:13:39.900 deal and it's gonna be amazing and I think it's coming sooner rather than later everything I
00:13:44.420 everyone I'm talking to in the White House and around President Trump says uh they're on the
00:13:48.820 one yard line uh that's the phrase I kept hearing all weekend uh you know I was with a number of
00:13:53.000 different senior officials over the weekend and talking to other ones late last week once I got
00:13:57.280 back to the United States. And by the way, everyone else around the world thinks President
00:14:02.760 Trump's going to get to a deal. The only people that don't think he's getting to a deal are the
00:14:06.320 ones that want him to keep bombing again or the ones that think he never should have taken military
00:14:10.560 action to begin with and your establishment media apparatus here in the United States and your
00:14:15.400 career politicians. The rest of the people around the world, I'm telling you, I just got back from
00:14:20.380 Europe. I just interviewed the president of Serbia. I was in Greece. It was my second trip to
00:14:26.900 Greece in as many months. When I was there, I met with officials from at least a dozen other
00:14:36.000 countries, including EU officials, Romanian, Bulgarian, Albanians, all sorts of different
00:14:45.400 folks all over the region. I can tell you folks from the Middle East I spoke to there,
00:14:50.380 I can tell you the fact is that everyone else in the world is confident that President Trump is going to succeed here.
00:14:57.980 The Prime Minister of Greece told me several weeks ago, and the President weighed in on this, he called Prime Minister Mitsotaki, he's a terrific guy, and Greece a terrific ally, after my interview, as a result of my interview with him.
00:15:11.480 But the Prime Minister told me that he's very confident that President Trump's going to land a deal with Iran and it's going to work out and that Iran can never get a nuclear weapon.
00:15:18.420 So this is how this goes, but the fact is that President Trump is a much better negotiator than Barack Obama ever was.
00:15:27.480 And to the globalist elites around the world who are feigning for a day where the return of Barack Obama, let me be clear, Barack Obama's never coming back, guys.
00:15:39.860 He's done. He's been gone for a decade. It's over. It's yesterday's news. He's finished.
00:15:45.500 He's never returning as president, and his failed Iran deal that President Trump ripped up in the first term
00:15:50.740 would have had Iran with a nuclear weapon already, right?
00:15:54.320 Like, President Trump is the reason why Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon right now,
00:15:58.280 and they're never going to get one. 0.61
00:15:59.960 So I'm very confident in President Trump's ability to deliver the ultimate victory here.
00:16:05.520 So not only have we achieved the ultimate military victory already,
00:16:09.660 and, yeah, I get it, there's volleys back and forth, this is how negotiations go,
00:16:13.300 But the fact is, is that now the the dealmaker in chief, the ultimate dealmaker is moving in for the final deal and he's going to get it and he's not going to sign a deal unless he's confident in it.
00:16:25.380 But I'm very confident he's going to get it across the finish line into the end zone.
00:16:29.380 We're going to have a touchdown celebration dance with Trump doing the Trump dance in no time.
00:16:34.820 So don't worry. Keep the faith. President Trump's in command here.
00:16:38.260 Well, you know, it's interesting you mentioned that as well, because, you know, we see that so many people are out there saying, oh, you know, there's this there's this idea that, you know, that he can't get a deal.
00:16:51.920 There's no deal. But one of the things that a senior White House official told me directly, and this is what I've been reporting over the last week.
00:16:59.500 And I'm wondering if you heard similar was that it's actually the hardliners that are trying in Iran that are trying to scuttle the talks.
00:17:08.400 Those are the ones that are firing off these attacks because it's the moderates and the pragmatists who kind of have the upper hand.
00:17:15.560 So they're the ones that are actually at the table. They're working with the Supreme Leader.
00:17:20.040 obviously the supreme leader the new one he's got to balance all this out but he's giving them the
00:17:24.820 upper hand that's why they're the ones who are trying to derail the peace process and the
00:17:31.020 diplomatic track is staying intact it is not being derailed that's because you have these people that
00:17:36.840 have been cut out or at least feel that they've been cut out and they're the ones trying to shut
00:17:41.100 it down which i thought was kind of interesting an amazingly similar type of a story here at home
00:17:46.320 right like and that the ones that you know i wasn't gonna say it going right like it was right
00:17:51.160 there it was right there on the tip of my tongue i was not gonna say it but but it's similar story
00:17:57.240 here at home and so like look this is the thing though is that cooler heads are prevailing funny
00:18:02.020 how that works so i think i think we're gonna get to we're gonna get to an amazing deal it's gonna
00:18:07.620 achieve all of the objectives that president trump laid out in all of his campaigns the president was
00:18:13.160 So anybody out there that's boohooing President Trump over this, first off, President Trump was, like, overly explicit during every single one of his campaigns for the White House that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.
00:18:27.320 This shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
00:18:29.200 He also doesn't like forever wars, but since when is six weeks a forever war, right?
00:18:34.800 Like, he said he was going to do this in four to six weeks, and with two days to spare, they got the ceasefire.
00:18:40.480 And now it's been this, you know, negotiation that's been going on since that end of that initial military actions where we had the great military victory.
00:18:49.500 That's not a forever war. The president has, frankly, done everything that he promised and campaigned on.
00:18:57.780 And all of the critics from both, you know, I don't want to name names because I don't want to be that guy.
00:19:02.580 but the point is is that the the the people that want us to go back to bombing iran
00:19:07.540 to the people that think we never should have done it to begin with i think they're all wrong
00:19:12.500 every single one of them right like i say i say trust the president many of them have been wrong
00:19:18.420 from the very start matt boy will be right back breitbart news here on human events daily
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00:20:47.560 All right. So I did want to get into this. So Boyle, you know, we're with Matt Boyle of Breitbart News. He just got back from Europe and, in fact, had an incredible round robin interview with the president of Serbia, President Vucek.
00:21:01.860 So, Matt, tell us about your interview. You mentioned I saw the headline, of course, that coming out that, you know, saying that he's much more popular in Serbia than any other U.S. leader.
00:21:15.980 Now, of course, for the record, Democrats are not very popular in Serbia, especially Joe Biden, because he supported bombing Belgrade, one of the most beautiful cities in Europe, and supported bombing it, as well as the Clintons who actually undertook the bombing and certainly no fan of Obama.
00:21:33.220 So it doesn't surprise me that they'd be more fans of President Trump.
00:21:37.660 But tell us what it is on the ground.
00:21:40.160 Why are they connecting with him?
00:21:41.180 Yeah, well, they're an interesting place because Serbia has had a really rough history, you know, being part of, you know, old Yugoslavia.
00:21:52.840 And, you know, a lot of the rest of Europe has had more time to heal in the aftermath of World War II and the Cold War and whatnot.
00:22:01.000 But Serbia, even in the aftermath of the Cold War, being part of Yugoslavia, then went through the breakup of Yugoslavia after the Cold War was over and the Soviet Union fell apart.
00:22:16.960 So the and then obviously also after that, of course, the U.S. led NATO bombing campaign against Belgrade that you mentioned, one could argue that Bill Clinton arguably may have done that as an effort to wag the dog away from Monica Lewinsky.
00:22:36.700 unsuccessful, but because I would still argue that Monica Lewinsky is probably more well-known
00:22:42.400 than Slobodan Milosevic in America. But the fact of the matter is that they've had a really
00:22:47.000 complicated history, but they're really trying to do some interesting things. They have major
00:22:52.340 U.S. investment coming into Serbia. President Vucic told me about anywhere from $10 to $12
00:22:59.160 billion of American investment that's coming in. They also maintain close relations with the
00:23:04.280 Russians and with the Chinese, too. So right after that interview, right after that picture you see
00:23:08.440 there, President Vucic actually went to Beijing to go meet with Xi Jinping. He was one of the
00:23:12.640 first world leaders to meet with Xi after President Trump's big historic state visit there.
00:23:18.300 And so literally later that day, that was last Saturday, so not this past Saturday, the one
00:23:25.600 before in Belgrade and in the president's office there in Serbia. But the fact is, is that the
00:23:33.820 U.S. investment in Serbia outpaces both the Chinese and the Russian investment combined.
00:23:40.960 So, and this is a country that's trying to join the European Union,
00:23:44.980 and frankly, Brussels has not allowed them in for a variety of reasons,
00:23:52.500 but that includes the Kosovo question, which is still, as of yet, unresolved.
00:23:57.800 Though Trump got closer than anyone back in the first term,
00:24:01.440 led by Rick Grinnell with the Washington Agreement,
00:24:03.820 uh in september 2020 uh to to getting a final resolution there with the serbia kosovo question
00:24:10.540 uh and then um the frankly the uh uh in addition to that uh it's the uh the i think that what the
00:24:21.240 brussels experience with victor orban in hungary where the veto uh has them hesitant to allow
00:24:27.460 anyone else in that won't just go with the flow with whatever brussels wants and i think that
00:24:32.360 Serbia is very independent minded. Again, as President Vucic mentioned to me, wide scale mass
00:24:38.740 support in Serbia for President Trump. He invited President Trump to visit Belgrade. He said that if
00:24:44.140 the president comes, there will be a crowd of more than 100,000 people there to greet him. That's
00:24:49.000 bigger than any crowd that I think the president's had here in the United States. So maybe up there
00:24:54.520 with a record crowd. And so if that happens, and I believe that, by the way. So it's also a really
00:25:00.320 interesting place in the balkans in that it's kind of the front lines of a modern for lack of
00:25:06.440 a better phrase holy war right like in that in serbia very orthodox christian country uh it's
00:25:12.680 like 90 something percent are orthodox christian uh but kosovo of course and muslim uh 90 something
00:25:18.140 percent muslim and then you've got all these different you know clashes between christians
00:25:22.160 and muslims uh in the balkan region you know with bosnia and herzegovina uh you know and then there's
00:25:27.980 a Republic of Srpska inside of Bosnia. And then there's, you know, Albania, which is Muslim and
00:25:34.340 Kosovo, of course, you know, Montenegro is a little bit of a split. North Macedonia is a little
00:25:39.380 bit of a split. And then further down south, you've got the Greeks who are basically, you know,
00:25:44.220 almost 100% Orthodox Christian. And then of course, you know, nearby, you know, if you go,
00:25:50.900 is Turkey and the old Ottoman Empire, right, the Muslim Empire that conquered much of Eastern
00:25:56.200 Europe and the Middle East and so on and so forth is right there as well on the you know right near
00:26:01.900 there so the the it's kind of a a crossroads if you will of east west north south it's this mixture
00:26:12.340 as you mentioned Belgrade a really beautiful city it was amazing being there and you know you see
00:26:18.780 the history of it right you see that there's a big old fort there from you know centuries ago
00:26:24.420 But then in addition to that, there's also, you know, some Soviet era buildings from the communist times.
00:26:32.280 Then there's so you can see all of that stuff. But then you can also see the modern stuff.
00:26:36.240 There's, you know, American businesses and restaurants coming in.
00:26:39.640 One of the places where we went on a drive from Belgrade to Novosad, Novosad, another city about an hour or so away from Belgrade.
00:26:47.260 and uh when we were on the road we stopped at a gas station and the serbian guys were telling us
00:26:53.040 that this is the only place on planet earth where you can get american mcdonald's and russian gas
00:26:58.640 in the same place and uh so we did we got we got it we got american mcdonald's when we were there
00:27:04.240 it was quite something right like so you can see both you can go for it yeah see the whole world
00:27:09.580 in one country of of serbia see some some uh some chinese companies there too as well interestingly
00:27:15.740 enough. They're there as well.
00:27:17.880 Matt Boyle, incredible work, incredible
00:27:19.900 reporting. Thank you so much. Go check them out at
00:27:21.820 Breitbart.com. Right back here
00:27:23.840 in Events Daily.
00:27:29.800 Where is Jack?
00:27:32.080 Where is Jack?
00:27:34.420 Where is he?
00:27:35.700 Jack, I want to see you.
00:27:39.340 Great job,
00:27:40.440 Jack. Thank you. What a job
00:27:42.140 you do. You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:27:44.160 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the
00:27:48.840 guys who should be getting policies.
00:27:53.580 All right, folks, Jack Peslop, we're back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:27:57.500 Now, this was a huge story on the left and in the media last week.
00:28:03.320 It was the autopsy, the Democrat autopsy of 2024.
00:28:07.580 We talked about thought crime a little bit if you guys watch thought crime.
00:28:09.900 So we got into that. And one of the pieces that I think a lot of people were were looking at was it's one hundred ninety two pages and disclaimers all the way.
00:28:24.020 But the fact was, if you remember, the document that leaked of the hundred ninety two page Democrat autopsy was actually sort of a draft document.
00:28:33.480 It wasn't the finished document. So what did you see? You actually saw this you saw this like like margins where they have the comments and the argumentative tone and people going back and forth, not just on the revisions, but on the actual facts about what happened.
00:28:51.160 And so our good friend Jonathan Alpert, the author of the new book Therapy Nation, which is just selling like crazy lately, he's joining us now.
00:29:01.920 He's got a new op-ed out that's all about it because he wrote, and this is really interesting, the DNC's 192-page autopsy sounds like bad therapy.
00:29:12.120 Jonathan, what do you mean by that?
00:29:13.920 Why does it sound like bad therapy?
00:29:16.920 Yeah, it does remind me a lot of bad therapy.
00:29:19.780 So if someone comes to see me, they're not just going to hear what they want to hear.
00:29:23.740 I'm actually going to tell them, like, look, this is what's going on.
00:29:26.780 It might be a little uncomfortable, but this is how you learn.
00:29:30.140 This is how you grow.
00:29:31.020 And this is how you improve.
00:29:32.720 And when I was reading the reports of that DNC autopsy, it did remind me of a bad therapy.
00:29:39.320 You know, people unwilling to look at the hard truths and make improvements.
00:29:42.780 And I've talked about how the Democratic Party, their whole messaging is about hating Trump, avoiding Trump, preventing Trump from ending the world.
00:29:53.600 And that messaging just has not resonated with with voters and certainly not in the past election.
00:30:00.360 And it does make me wonder what happens as we get into 2028 when Trump's not even running for office.
00:30:06.420 so in the sense then is is the reason that it's bad i mean it's definitely bad politics so done
00:30:14.440 by the way i'm not uh i'm not going to complain with them uh about that part of it i i certainly
00:30:19.060 agree it's bad politics but in the sense then where it's you know where you say it's bad therapy
00:30:25.420 because it talks about the fact that they're you know they have the tactical failures they think
00:30:30.080 it's a messaging issue they're disconnected they they realize that they have disconnect a disconnect
00:30:35.400 with working class voters.
00:30:36.620 And then I was actually on a show with a Democrat recently.
00:30:39.820 And I said, it's, you know, it's, um, you know, it was, it was a friendly, you know,
00:30:42.860 kind of back and forth.
00:30:43.660 And I said, look, you know, it's, it seems to be very clear that you guys realize that
00:30:48.820 you have this disconnect with working class men, but also that you haven't quite figured
00:30:53.680 out how to actually, um, how to actually mend the gap.
00:30:57.380 You just kind of putting up the, you know, put up these guys like, like Tim Walls or
00:31:01.280 Graham Planter up in Maine as the latest example of this, where they're, you know,
00:31:05.160 here's a rootin', tootin', gun-totin' kind of guy, but ultimately they aren't the kind of person
00:31:11.780 that actually has a connect. And the reason that perhaps it could be bad therapy is because there's
00:31:16.440 no accountability involved. Yeah, there's no accountability whatsoever, but there's also a
00:31:22.400 complete lack of understanding of the electorate, the voters outside of the coastal elites. And,
00:31:29.680 And, you know, it reminds me of 2016. I used to see a lot of patients who would tell me privately
00:31:35.860 that they kind of like this guy, Trump, but they can never tell their spouse or their friends or
00:31:41.420 their family members. These were blue collar workers who typically would go for the Democrat,
00:31:47.700 but they were privately, secretly going for Trump. And I think at that time, the Democrats
00:31:54.360 were in denial that no way could these people be voting for Trump. And that actually carried into
00:32:00.500 the next election and the one after that as well. And they still seem to be in denial. It's almost
00:32:06.200 like if you have a pathologist report from a medical examiner's office, and then you're just
00:32:12.880 totally unwilling to look at the actual cause of death, and you go about living your life the way
00:32:18.620 that you did and ignoring the facts uh it's just not healthy for for the democratic party uh so i
00:32:24.720 think there has to be a real reckoning within the party to make some some progress and and and this
00:32:32.200 is key by the way so so what let's you know let's let's let's say the dnc is your is your client
00:32:37.500 right and and they're trying to connect with people in a i don't know in a in a relationship
00:32:42.760 or in the workplace, but they're not willing to, as the phrase is, do the work of actually
00:32:50.200 confronting themselves, changing anything, taking accountability for anything.
00:32:55.020 How do you get someone past that?
00:32:58.520 Yeah.
00:32:58.920 And if they're just going into therapy or to see me and I tell them, look, this is what's
00:33:04.040 going on and this is what I think you should do to try to make improvements, and they just
00:33:08.340 come in every week and vent, they're going to stay exactly where they are.
00:33:12.760 I would probably get them to open their eyes a bit and explain that their narrow view of the U.S. isn't working.
00:33:20.360 They're not appealing to the mass of the population.
00:33:23.780 They're really just doing what they've always done, which is appealing to the coastal elites.
00:33:29.120 And it's not a winning formula.
00:33:30.400 But it did remind me so much of that patient that would come in to therapy and just in denial about what's going on.
00:33:39.160 On one hand, they recognize that they're anxious or they have other mental health issues, but it's almost like they want to remain stuck.
00:33:47.180 It defines them.
00:33:48.720 They sometimes wear that as a badge of honor.
00:33:51.800 And in some ways, I think that's what the Democratic Party is doing.
00:33:55.500 so you know they might say that you know something along the lines of i guess like well i'm
00:34:03.060 you know i imagine that it comes down to a refusal to you know feel like they're coming to to back
00:34:11.240 off their principles or something like that well i'm not going to back off my principles and i'm
00:34:15.860 taking a principled stand that's why i'm not going to come off of this but but you don't actually
00:34:20.440 have to abandon your principles you know to to relate to people or that's number one number two
00:34:26.880 is i guess suppose sometimes you should actually re-examine your principles shouldn't you well of
00:34:32.000 course and they should evolve and just as the country has changed over the past 250 years
00:34:38.480 uh they should also adapt and evolve and uh you know not be so rigidly fixed on on these beliefs
00:34:45.220 uh it's not really helping their uh their voters is it
00:34:50.440 No, it certainly isn't. And ultimately, it's something where, you know, I remember this, you know, seeing this in 2024 in real time.
00:34:59.960 And I remember thinking, you know, when they and I'm just going to say it, I remember that they they had a problem with with Kamala Harris after she had made the switch with Joe Biden.
00:35:12.400 And they had a problem with getting black male support for Kamala.
00:35:18.720 And their response to this was they brought Barack Obama back out and he started scolding them and nagging them and telling them that they needed to show up for their sister and that there was a problem with them if they didn't vote for their way.
00:35:34.380 I remember looking at this thinking, this isn't how you reach out to someone at all, ever.
00:35:39.540 Right. And you certainly don't lecture people. And, you know, the Democratic Party was doing what they always did, and they were making it about identity politics. And again, there was just an assumption that if you're black, you must vote for the black candidate. And I saw overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
00:35:57.420 You know, it's just like therapy. People are being sorted into categories. You're black,
00:36:04.500 so you must think this way. You're gay. You must face certain issues in the workplace. 1.00
00:36:09.940 And therapists have a really bad habit of doing that. And I'm finding that people want to be
00:36:14.560 treated with respect and they want to be looked at as an individual and not just looked at a
00:36:19.520 certain way because of their skin color or sexual preference. But the Democratic Party,
00:36:25.060 as progressive as they like to come across they do seem deeply rooted in in stock in some old ways of
00:36:33.640 thinking no and that's exactly right it's it's you have to treat people as individuals first and
00:36:42.480 foremost and don't come into a group and start you know taking like every every stereotype or
00:36:48.580 every textbook you know first glance at them and then start arguing for them that they should be
00:36:53.800 doing something no it's it's if you've got a candidate and you know i i just know this from
00:36:58.500 from politics if you had a candidate you know you've got to tell people hey this person can
00:37:03.160 make your life better and here's how right that's that's the goal right that's the general goal of
00:37:07.240 politics it's don't you should do something because i said so that ain't gonna work yeah it'll be
00:37:12.600 interesting to see what happens uh tomorrow in la uh with the mayoral race that's a great point
00:37:18.100 actually yeah that's no that's that's a very good point because you know we got la you got
00:37:22.500 Spencer Pratt. I've been, you know, looking at a little of those. It's kind of hard to read the
00:37:26.860 tea leaves. Just the way they do elections is, is a bit strange. Of course, there've been a few
00:37:32.400 irregularities, but you're exactly right. You know, here's a guy whose entire campaign is about
00:37:37.840 issues. He's always talked about. He hasn't made this personal. He hasn't made this about identity.
00:37:43.800 He's just made it about issues that are actually facing actual Angelenos. Now, the question is,
00:37:50.220 Is that something that is going to work in that that political market, you know, in that in that district?
00:37:56.600 We'll see. You know, I think we'll all see.
00:37:58.760 But certainly it's an incredible test run and it's going to be an incredible test case to see right back.
00:38:04.900 Jack Posobiec, Jonathan Alpert here. Real America's Voice, Human Events Daily.
00:38:20.220 Call this the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:38:30.860 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec.
00:38:36.800 And that is, I'll be honest.
00:38:45.180 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec, we are back live.
00:38:47.880 Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice here.
00:38:49.820 I want to go back. We're all with Jonathan Alpert, the author of Therapy Nation, and we have this huge ruling, Jonathan, earlier today in the Tyler Robinson case, something that we've personally fought for very hard here on Human Events regarding cameras in the courtroom, that we want cameras in the courtroom.
00:39:07.920 We've been demanding it. We've written letters about it. Tyler Robinson's defense team has referred to us in court by name because we have gone so hard calling for this and pulling up precedent in court cases and all the rest.
00:39:22.460 And they just lost. But I want to get into a little bit more the reasoning, perhaps, for why they don't want cameras in the courtroom.
00:39:31.940 Because, you know, you think that, hey, you know, you've got someone and if your job is to show their innocence or show that the state's case has is full of holes and, you know, you'd think you'd want the biggest audience possible for that.
00:39:45.640 And so it brings me back to this image of Tyler Robinson from court in one of the earlier one of the earlier hearings where he's leaning over.
00:39:59.480 And guys, I think we have the still image of it as well.
00:40:03.020 I know there's the video, but there's a still image.
00:40:04.660 It's a little bit better quality.
00:40:06.480 And he looks like he is smirking and smug to his lawyer, to his legal team.
00:40:15.640 And part of my theory is just my view, my opinion, is that they know that those things
00:40:22.760 are incredibly damaging to this case because he doesn't seem to show any ounce of remorse
00:40:28.000 at all.
00:40:28.540 to me he looks smug yeah i agree with you jack i mean he's he's got a smugness i mean that smirk
00:40:35.900 says it all he's demonstrated uh many times over that he can't control himself and you have to
00:40:42.500 wonder if the defense team is worried that that one smile or smirk uh could just change things
00:40:48.240 dramatically for him i'm no legal expert but i do i do know a thing or two about psychology and
00:40:54.020 how people think and uh that that could definitely change uh the narrative the public narrative out
00:41:00.000 there um but yeah i mean you're showing it now uh he looks relaxed uh he's got that smug look
00:41:07.360 on his face and that that can't translate well to a winning case well and that's exactly right
00:41:15.040 because when you're when you're looking at this from the perspective of someone that they're
00:41:21.200 going to have to put in front of a jury, but also people that of course, uh, in the, so these are
00:41:25.580 the preliminary hearings. We won't have a jury yet, but the idea being that someone who's watching
00:41:29.400 these or watching coverage of this may become a potential juror. I guess if you live in the, uh,
00:41:35.040 the Orem, Utah or the provost Utah area, if you're in that, that district where the jury pool will
00:41:39.660 be, and they know that every time this guy is shown on, on footage, you know, he doesn't look
00:41:47.400 like someone who's sad he looks like someone or or at least sad about what what happened even even
00:41:52.380 if he's trying to show his innocence he doesn't look like that he looks like he's someone who's
00:41:55.780 proud he looks like he's someone who's condescending i see someone who looks like they're
00:41:59.880 smug i see someone who looks like they're actually happy about what they did yeah kind of reminds me
00:42:06.160 of luigi mangione uh you know very carefree and like you said he looks proud of what he did he's
00:42:12.920 probably convinced himself that it was his mission his duty and his responsibility to to do what he
00:42:19.320 did and that's certainly what we've seen with luigi uh his manifesto supported that as well and
00:42:25.880 there there's the other picture of of tyler um there's the one that's that's exactly the one
00:42:32.520 i was talking about yes we got it yeah yeah well i'm glad the judge ruled the way that he did today
00:42:40.840 I think that that bodes well for for for the state.
00:42:47.060 And I'm sure Mrs. Kirk is pleased about that as well.
00:42:51.720 Yeah, no, I haven't. I haven't.
00:42:54.460 Well, look, I know that she has been advocating very publicly early on.
00:42:59.260 She'd one of her first interviews. This was the question that came up.
00:43:02.140 And it was one of the very first things she said is that that this should be done in public,
00:43:06.600 that she wants cameras in the courtroom, that the whole country should see publicly this trial on full display
00:43:15.340 because it's something where, you know, there's there's been people who have asked questions about it.
00:43:20.280 There's people who want to know more about the evidence.
00:43:22.700 What better way to do that? Show you have nothing to hide by putting it on TV.
00:43:26.580 We saw that with Kyle Rittenhouse. We saw that with Johnny Depp.
00:43:29.980 Johnny Depp had his whole trial, you know, public there.
00:43:33.120 this has happened time and time again, where people, and it doesn't always mean the jury
00:43:37.220 gets it right, but I think they will in this case. And I think that, you know, we have a very clear
00:43:42.080 case here of what happened. Uh, Daniel Penny, another example out of New York city. And so
00:43:47.380 over and over, you can see these cases where they're put on camera and it's something where
00:43:52.440 the public can watch if they choose to actually see what happens. Yeah. And you can also go way
00:43:58.620 back to oj simpson i mean that was uh that was on display for for the world to see
00:44:03.440 yeah no well i see i'm on the other side of that one that's the one where i was thinking of where
00:44:09.100 the jury didn't didn't quite go the way uh didn't quite go the way that the evidence uh seemed to
00:44:13.900 seem to seem to stack on that one and uh but you know it was still something where we can still
00:44:19.800 talk about it because it was on video because we do have that record and i and i do think that what
00:44:26.020 the judge said here is that for the purpose of of transparency it's good to have this people can
00:44:32.600 react however they want that's part of being in a free country that's part of having the first
00:44:36.140 amendment that's part of having freedom of speech that's something that totally separates us from
00:44:41.600 other countries that we were just you know talking to uh uh someone who had just come back from
00:44:46.360 serbia from eastern europe but there's whole parts of the world that that just don't have this system
00:44:51.440 at all. And I think we should be very, we should not be cavalier about messing with our system,
00:44:58.020 you know, whether what side you're on or the other on one of these cases, because it's the
00:45:02.700 best system that we've been able to come up with and the fairest system that we've been able to
00:45:06.240 come up with. Yeah, no, I agree with you. And, you know, the defense clearly is worried and
00:45:12.620 they fought so hard against this and they lost. So, you know, I think it just suggests that they
00:45:19.100 are quite worried about things and there's overwhelming evidence against their guy do you
00:45:24.940 think that you know getting kind of getting back to the the the therapy aspect that you know do
00:45:30.600 you think that there is a perhaps a therapeutic aspect towards you know sort of the country as
00:45:36.580 a whole when when you witness something as uh as heinous and as evil and gruesome as the murder
00:45:42.860 of charlie kirk which of course everyone saw because the nature of social media by then having
00:45:48.420 it, uh, the trial itself be public. Does that, does that give a kind of therapy, you know,
00:45:56.180 therapeutic response, a kind of catharsis, if you will, for the public so that they can see
00:46:00.860 that there has been a response to the horror that they, that they've used.
00:46:05.840 Yeah, I do think it does. And I also think it allows for, uh, somewhat of a mental conclusion
00:46:11.520 for people to process because right now that image from that, uh, horrific day is,
00:46:17.640 is so powerful in people's minds. So I think if we see this, um, uh, court case play out
00:46:24.340 and we see a justice serve, then, uh, that will help people to process, uh, the trauma and, um,
00:46:31.880 you know, hopefully be able to, to move on, uh, to some degree.
00:46:36.780 You know, I, I think so as well, you know, something from, you know, just on a personal
00:46:40.900 level, I, I, uh, you know, people ask me like, you know, how do you, how do you deal with this
00:46:45.460 kind of stuff. And I say, I actually, you know, feel like the more information that I get about
00:46:52.620 something, the more analysis that I'm able to do of something, it just helps me to compartmentalize
00:46:57.600 it. It just helps me to be able to, to put something in, in its place, to understand that
00:47:02.660 it's been dealt with. I understand that not everybody is like that, but that's, I've,
00:47:07.100 I've always found that digging into the case, digging into the facts is something that,
00:47:12.140 uh that i get a lot out of personally yeah and i think we've got an emotional response but we're
00:47:18.000 also uh responding logically trying to understand uh the court proceedings and we may never be able
00:47:25.480 to reconcile emotionally but at least we can watch this play out and and see that justice is served
00:47:31.080 hopefully amen thank you so much for that jonathan jonathan tell us once again where the book is and
00:47:37.780 where folks can get access to it sure the book is therapy nation and it's available on amazon and at
00:47:43.820 most most retailers and you can find out more about me on x jonathan alpert and my website
00:47:50.240 jonathanalpert.com now he's a great follow folks i mean it's incredible personal responsibility
00:47:56.380 something that has been sorely lacking from the national discourse and certainly the therapy
00:48:02.080 discourse for a long time thank you so much jonathan ladies and gentlemen as always you
00:48:06.500 have my permission to lay ashore.