Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Tyler Robinson Lawyers Argue To Seal Evidence From Public Before Trial In Charlie Kirk Murder Case

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00:02:27.520 well ladies and gentlemen welcome aboard today's edition of human events daily we're here live

00:02:45.760 on real america's voice today is march 13th 2026 anno domini guys um we're watching right now

00:02:53.080 Now, the Tyler Robinson hearing continues down there in Provo, Utah, Orem, Utah, Utah

00:02:59.180 County, where his lawyers are currently arguing new motions in front of the—in front of

00:03:07.600 the judge.

00:03:08.380 Now, I want to let you know that the footage we're showing right now on—is not footage

00:03:12.840 from today because Tyler Robinson is now completely off of camera.

00:03:19.280 I haven't even seen a single camera shot of the defendant during the trial for today,

00:03:25.560 or I should say for the hearing today.

00:03:26.820 The trial hasn't actually officially started yet.

00:03:29.200 And reason being is that all of these motions regarding the use of cameras and public access,

00:03:36.060 that in fact is what today's hearing is all about.

00:03:39.720 And I want to go to SOT 1 to give you a taste.

00:03:43.180 to. And we have this because what we have is some information regarding defense attorneys

00:03:53.120 filing a motion to classify evidence to ensure what they say is a fair trial. Do we have that

00:03:59.600 talk, guys? Oh, OK. And so we'll work on getting you guys that that information. But what we're

00:04:10.460 seeing now is that video, but what we're seeing now is instances and insistence on Tyler Robinson's

00:04:18.820 lawyers to try to prevent the public from having direct access and full access to evidence. Now,

00:04:24.960 they claim that it is about biasing the jury, and they say that they want there to be an unbiased

00:04:32.980 jury. And so that's certainly understandable. But at the same time, at the same time,

00:04:37.460 the public has a right to know the public has a right to know the evidence the public has a right

00:04:43.340 to transparency and it was the last hearing the very last hearing when it was tyler robinson's

00:04:49.400 lawyers who were the ones entering things into the public record when they were cross-examining

00:04:55.640 the uh when they were cross-examining the investigator entering information about dna

00:05:00.800 that's never been made public before so which is it they're inconsistent and they want to have it

00:05:05.860 both ways okay we do have it let's go back sought one there seems to be an idea that flooding the

00:05:13.140 public sphere with information or evidence from this courtroom will somehow dispel conspiracy

00:05:21.460 theories or shift public narrative that in and of itself is concerning all we should be worried about

00:05:31.460 is protecting what happens in this courtroom. We believe that preemptively releasing evidence

00:05:39.140 that we needed to provide to this court in order for this court to make an informed decision

00:05:44.660 is just one of those actions, is one of those things that will negatively impact our ability

00:05:51.780 to have a fair proceeding for our client. So we are asking that the motion and the evidence

00:05:58.180 be classified as private, that this court consider our clients unqualified right

00:06:04.840 to a fair trial and a reliable penalty phase should overcome the qualified right

00:06:11.800 of access at this point. We understand things may change, but at this

00:06:18.060 preliminary stage we believe this is the appropriate course to take to protect

00:06:23.820 the proceedings and our clients rights.

00:06:28.180 All right, so there you go, folks. And they're once again seeking to suppress evidence from the public record. And specifically, this is very interesting because they wouldn't talk about what the evidence was, but they said that it's evidence that is currently being tested, evidence that's currently being tested, evidence that is being processed.

00:06:47.540 So we're six months out from Charlie's murder, and yet we are told, according to the defense

00:06:54.040 here, that there is evidence that is still being processed.

00:06:57.240 Could that be new evidence, or could this be testing of old evidence, perhaps testing

00:07:01.680 that was held up because of these disagreements?

00:07:05.560 That remains to be seen.

00:07:06.520 The judge is about to make his ruling, and we're going to bring that to you as soon as

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00:08:59.820 So, folks, we're talking about, you know, this case.

00:09:03.380 case. And of course, the ruling is going to come out soon in the in the hearing there regarding

00:09:10.080 some of these motions. And so we'll bring that to you directly. But I want to just take it back a

00:09:13.920 second to explain what's going on. This hearing is about public access, the ceiling of evidence,

00:09:19.860 filings and proceedings. What stays public? What comes out? And this is important. This is very

00:09:27.080 important because think about it. This is not the trial. It's a fight over who controls the

00:09:32.840 information environment before the trial. Now, the defense is trying to narrow public visibility

00:09:38.880 into the case. They want to seal filing, seal evidence, limit what can be aired in open court.

00:09:44.460 And of course, all along has been pushing to restrict cameras and microphones. The battle

00:09:49.820 is over transparency before a jury is even seated. And the defense is trying to close off how much of

00:09:55.820 this case the public can see. Now, what changed is that back February 24th, a couple of weeks ago,

00:10:01.080 The judge, of course, rejected the defense's desperate and and really just just longshot

00:10:06.220 argument to try to remove Utah County prosecutors.

00:10:09.900 So if the defense now is pivoting, if they can't knock out the prosecution, they can

00:10:14.800 still try to tighten access and control exposure.

00:10:17.960 So the immediate fight right now isn't about guilt or innocence.

00:10:22.320 It's about whether this case proceeds in full public view or behind a curtain of sealed

00:10:28.680 filings and restricted media access. This is what we're going to watch for. We also want to keep an

00:10:34.740 eye out if there's a ruling on this, if the court locks in or adjusts the April 17th, May 18th,

00:10:40.260 19th, 21st schedule for arraignments, we're going to be digging in on all of it. But to comment on

00:10:46.620 all this and more, I wanted to bring back a fan favorite, someone who hasn't been on in a hot

00:10:52.540 minute, but that's okay. It's Malcolm Flex, the founder of Flex's Warrior Way, and he joins us

00:10:58.460 on Human Events today. Flex, what's going on, man? How are you? How are you? I live. I am here.

00:11:07.300 Proof of life has been confirmed. Proof of life has been found, although you could be AI. So,

00:11:15.920 you know, I don't know if there's a way to Turing test yourself into proving that you do exist.

00:11:20.540 we'll have to take your word for it yeah that's it hey aren't we all just ai at this point

00:11:26.580 i'm pretty sure that's right no i'm i i am 100 a russian bot there's no question

00:11:33.560 but flex let's let's hit that real quick because you know even even without getting into all of

00:11:40.740 the the controversy around tyler robinson we want to talk and of course waiting here whether or not

00:11:47.720 this ruling comes down from the judge and what exactly he's going to say, I think he's probably

00:11:51.920 going to try to find a midpoint here to say that, you know, we don't want to buy us a jury, but,

00:11:57.040 you know, we do have to have some evidence that comes in because you can't just be blocking

00:12:00.460 everything. What does it say, though, about the control of the information environment and how

00:12:07.260 important that is to our judicial system when you got a case like this? When there's a case

00:12:14.280 is as high profile as what's going on with Tyler Robinson it should be a given that at some point

00:12:20.260 you're going to have a certain level of um let's just say prejudice that's going to be introduced

00:12:24.500 into it based on people's preconceived notions and I mean honestly the way everything is went

00:12:30.340 I'm not sure what the defense you know what the defensive play here is in trying to control the

00:12:37.240 information so strongly because I mean at this point you know we're we're just doing this for

00:12:42.380 transparency i mean honestly it helps no one if now you're trying to block evidence you're trying

00:12:48.660 to control basically cut off that arterial line of information that we necessarily need in order

00:12:55.720 to get context because this whole merc like everything about this is hazy and it honestly

00:13:00.700 just makes tyler robinson look worse if you say he's ideologically motivated and there's no

00:13:06.120 other information that comes out of this so you need something greater and

00:13:12.380 you know honestly you're just feeling feeling more conspiracies more theories everything else

00:13:17.740 that you technically don't want going on about your client that would honestly you know if i'm

00:13:24.380 if i'm going to be honest it would honestly help tyler robinson more if the conspiracies went wild

00:13:29.580 rather than saying okay no no we're not going to introduce this we're just going to let you believe

00:13:33.820 that this guy just did this on his own as a lone wolf that's from my defensive play so there's there's

00:13:40.300 There's a bigger, almost like a meta story here, a meta narrative where we have these

00:13:47.060 laws on the books and we have these questions about transparency, but they were all written

00:13:53.160 before the social media age.

00:13:55.540 They were all written before we had direct live streaming and people are on the YouTube

00:14:00.900 chats and people are able to share everything directly to these little pieces of glass in

00:14:05.720 our pockets that we hold on our hands.

00:14:07.880 So it's just we have a situation where the laws and the way it's been dealt with, I think, are just a little bit, you know, just a little bit written for a different era.

00:14:18.340 And that when you have the introduction 2007 of the iPhone, something that Charlie talked about a lot, it just fundamentally changed the way that we interact with the world.

00:14:27.740 Exactly that. And so, I mean, any cases being made public, anything that happened that's got foreshocks and ramifications that extend beyond, let's just say, like a county.

00:14:37.880 you're going to automatically have a certain level of prejudice.

00:14:40.980 And I don't care what you do to be insular with it.

00:14:44.340 You're not going to necessarily be able to prevent that from leaking out.

00:14:47.680 So it's in your best interest, honestly, to introduce transparency as the defense.

00:14:52.880 Because anything else, you allow the prosecution to shape the story.

00:14:56.600 You allow them to create the narrative, unless there's a bigger narrative that you're trying to hide.

00:15:01.320 And that's the problem that we've got right now.

00:15:02.840 you know cell phone social media and just the general obfuscation of what actually happened

00:15:07.940 to charlie kirk and what tyler robinson was up to when he ascended that staircase with that

00:15:12.260 backpack all of that has just fed into a massive snafu and it's just spiraling out of control

00:15:18.120 right and and certainly you know you'd have you know there's no question obviously there's going

00:15:24.240 to always been speculation in murder trials there's been you know going back to you know

00:15:28.780 The OJ case 20, 30 years ago was was on TV every day.

00:15:33.180 So this the idea that a public trial would would provide public scrutiny, that isn't necessarily new.

00:15:40.680 I mean, we used to have public public trials and public executions in, you know, 100 years ago, 500 years ago.

00:15:46.540 And so that isn't new.

00:15:47.880 I suppose what's new is the ability of people through social media to lock into these things and for different sources of information to be able to be spread.

00:16:00.220 Now, in some cases, you know, like when you saw 2016, the rise of the Patriot, the rise of the populists, that was good because we lived in a censorship environment.

00:16:09.240 But also there are times where, you know, as you say, the restriction of information can lead to these greater issues.

00:16:18.080 And I just feel like the presumption of publicity kind of needs to be it just kind of needs to be the default now that there's always going to be publicity in one of these cases, whether, you know, obviously in, you know, in this case, it's extremely high profile.

00:16:32.240 But even even perhaps lesser cases are going to get scrutiny because of, you know, because they could catch the public attention.

00:16:39.720 They could catch the public eye. Look at the Nancy Guthrie case just a couple of weeks ago, which, of course, is still kind of ongoing.

00:16:46.200 She hasn't been found, but it's it's absolutely just dominated the news cycle.

00:16:50.980 And I would argue it's able to do so because of live streaming and because of social media.

00:16:56.080 True crime exists for a reason. And I mean, honestly, true crime genre, man, that's like that's the that's the fastest thing.

00:17:02.240 fastest growing thing yeah it's a niche and honestly that exists because there are gaps

00:17:07.900 in the media coverage of these events I think things like this only fuel that wildfire that

00:17:13.920 I think most mass media types want to stamp out and get rid of but you know you're only making

00:17:19.300 it worse when you block information you you feel curiosity and so it's like pick your poison as a

00:17:25.000 judge I you know I'm doing what you what you say which is I'm assuming a certain level of presumption

00:17:30.900 of publicity in this situation. I'm saying, hey, this is for the public good. We're into

00:17:36.700 making sure justice is served. Any information that can give us a full picture of things

00:17:42.600 is going to be on display for everyone else, because that's really what this case is about.

00:17:46.940 It's not about whether or not Tyler Robinson did it. It's about why. Why did he do it? And

00:17:52.880 are all parties being held accountable? Was there somebody else aiding him? Is this just

00:17:58.000 a lone wolf incident something of that nature if it's lone wolf incident it's against the defense's

00:18:03.020 best interest to represent tyler robinson in the best light if you just let that narrative exist so

00:18:09.240 who are they really defending i think that's going to be a question that we're going to ask as this

00:18:13.160 trial progress and i mean that's that's something that i have questions about as well when we have

00:18:17.700 this information that his his boyfriend this trans boyfriend you know knew seemed like knew quite a

00:18:24.140 before he went out there. And then you had all these accounts up on X saying something's going

00:18:28.960 to happen to Charlie when he comes to campus on Wednesday, something, something big is going to

00:18:33.220 happen. I can't wait for it to happen. And all of those directly tie back to certain groups that

00:18:40.040 really just raises a lot of those questions. And so something where I know I'm certainly going to

00:18:45.700 be looking at, again, what level of evidence or what we would say, I remember when I was in the

00:18:51.280 intel community we would always use this phrase we would say what else what other right what else

00:18:55.180 what other always be asking that question what else what other is out there and in this case

00:19:00.140 when we are told that evidence has been sealed evidence hasn't been released that we still want

00:19:06.320 to know and so i've always stood for pro for transparency in this and every case that i've

00:19:12.000 covered ladies and gentlemen right back human events daily jack sobek malcolm flex

00:19:15.580 You talk about influences, these are influences, and they're friends of mine, Jack Rusovic.

00:19:24.700 Where's Jack?

00:19:25.600 Jack, he's done a great job.

00:19:30.660 Defendants' request to classify the motion filed on January 9, 2026 is respectfully denied.

00:19:38.880 As it relates to the motion to classify motion to exclude docket 310, defendant seeks to classify

00:19:46.700 his motion to exclude cameras from the courtroom because the motion compiles a litany of unfairly

00:19:52.520 prejudicial and oftentimes inaccurate electronic media interviews, comments, and photographs.

00:20:01.720 Furthermore, the motion references court filings that are classified as private and references

00:20:07.940 the publication of private information of individuals involved in this case allegedly

00:20:14.020 in violation of law. The defendant does not provide any citations to the underlying motion to aid the

00:20:20.740 court in identifying the potentially private information. The court is sensitive to the

00:20:26.980 amount of pre-trial publicity generated by this case, including an extensive amount of public

00:20:32.660 commentary and inaccurate or conspiratorial descriptions of alleged evidence supporting

00:20:39.580 or negating defendant's guilt.

00:20:42.360 A substantial amount of this pre-trial publicity is organized and memorialized into defendant's

00:20:48.420 motion.

00:20:49.800 Because the references to pre-trial publicity are, by their very nature, already contained

00:20:54.360 in the public arena, interests favoring closure are greatly diminished.

00:20:59.580 this citing 2 State v. Algier. The public already has access to the majority of the information

00:21:08.360 contained in the motion. Upon balancing the interests at play, the court determines that

00:21:14.220 defendant has not shown that the interests favoring closure outweigh the interests favoring

00:21:19.500 access to the record, with the exception of the potentially private information referenced

00:21:26.200 the motion to classify. The court orders defendant to file a version of his motion to exclude

00:21:32.320 cameras, referencing Docket 305, that redacts private information referenced but not specifically

00:21:39.420 cited in his motion to classify. The redacted versions of the motion to exclude cameras

00:21:45.880 must be filed with the court by the end of business on March 30, 2026. If no redacted

00:21:53.960 motion is filed by that time, the court will reclassify docket 305 as public. If a redacted

00:22:02.300 motion is filed, the court will maintain the private classification on docket 305. Accordingly,

00:22:09.480 defendant's motion is granted in part and denied in part. Finally, turning to the defendant's

00:22:16.440 motion to classify reply docket 400 defendant seeks to classify his private his reply memorandum

00:22:25.080 in support of his motion to exclude cameras from the courtroom defendant argues that his reply

00:22:30.200 memorandum should be private because it references portions of the motion to exclude cameras which he

00:22:36.680 has also moved to classify as discussed in the ruling on docket 310 defendant does not cite any

00:22:44.520 part of the reply memorandum that references potentially prejudicial information in the

00:22:49.540 motion to exclude.

00:22:52.200 Based on the record before it, the court concludes that defendant has not provided a sufficient

00:22:56.640 basis for the court to find the interest favoring closure outweigh interest favoring access

00:23:03.940 to the reply memorandum.

00:23:05.920 As such, defendant's motion is respectfully denied.

00:23:11.280 I will go ahead and sign this order, and it will go into the record.

00:23:17.220 With this in mind, counsel, how would we like to proceed?

00:23:20.620 What I want to turn to next is this upcoming April 17th hearing, how it will be conducted,

00:23:27.240 and so we all have a good idea of what to expect and to prepare for.

00:23:32.180 And so first, I'll hear from defense in regards to your expectations on moving forward,

00:23:39.720 given the ruling of this court, and then I'll turn to the state as well. All right. Mr. Burt.

00:23:51.800 So, Your Honor, we anticipate calling several witnesses. One witness would be

00:23:56.120 in the nature of a foundational witness who would summarize for the court the nature

00:24:01.960 and extent of the publicity. It would be testifying to certain things like publication,

00:24:08.120 scope. A number of times certain articles have been referenced. We would be playing for the court

00:24:16.920 the various clips that are referenced in the motion as well as others not referenced

00:24:23.780 to provide the court with an overview of what we think the court needs to look at in terms of the

00:24:31.940 nature and extent of the publicity. Then we would also be producing a expert witness who's.

00:24:40.680 OK, so a flurry of motions right there. We're working to get you all the details of exactly

00:24:47.680 what happened. Looks like a variety of these were denied. There was there was some partial

00:24:54.360 granting of the seal, but a lot of this, a lot of this was denied. And then the judge Graff is

00:25:02.520 also asking for a new redacted motion on the removal of cameras. The defendant wants that

00:25:08.360 motion classified. So that'll be, and now they're talking about the next hearing coming up here

00:25:13.860 regarding the, you know, April 17th, which is also going to be on cameras. You see some people

00:25:18.900 rising there. There's different arguments being made about the next case. So Natalie Wattis from

00:25:26.440 local CBS is saying the judge presiding has decided not to classify the documents that the

00:25:31.400 defense asked for, has decided to allow cameras in the courtroom at the next hearing on April 17th.

00:25:36.960 However, the judge said the defense may file an updated motion to argue for removing cameras on

00:25:44.560 April 17th, they could do that on March 30th. And that's what they're going to be pushing for

00:25:49.600 since. And just want to bring Malcolm Flex back in here. So Flex, this was big, actually,

00:25:56.580 because the judge actually, I think, in as many words, said exactly what you said, that the

00:26:03.360 defense in most of these motions, with the exception of this camera bit for the next piece,

00:26:11.120 was saying that the defendant has not met the burden, right, the bar, to saying that his rights

00:26:20.180 to, you know, to have a fair trial come into conflict with the right of the public to have

00:26:27.860 access to this case because it is a public trial. And as the judge is working, he has to weigh those

00:26:33.860 back and forth and says, look, this evidence, this is a public trial. We don't do these trials

00:26:38.580 behind the scenes we have to do this in public that's the american way and he's saying right

00:26:43.820 there that you have you've not met the burden to say that this is going to be prejudicial

00:26:47.240 so your motion is denied beautiful beautiful and i think that's exactly what we expected any judge

00:26:56.300 worth assault would make that you know that's just logical conclusion here like we said they're

00:27:01.600 working against their own defendants interests if they're trying to shield information or anything

00:27:06.300 because there's so little information to go off of.

00:27:09.260 Well, looking forward to it.

00:27:11.240 Looking forward to seeing how this goes.

00:27:13.920 Where is Jack?

00:27:16.280 Where is Jack?

00:27:18.560 Where is he?

00:27:19.820 Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:23.460 Great job, Jack.

00:27:24.940 Thank you.

00:27:25.660 What a job you do.

00:27:27.120 You know, we have an incredible thing.

00:27:28.500 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad,

00:27:30.800 but we have guys,

00:27:32.200 and these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.

00:27:36.300 All right, folks, we're back here at Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec, Real America's

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00:29:22.660 So I want to come back in with...

00:29:24.520 by the way i'm just uh i'm i'm i'm seeing the chat uh i was about to bring get malcolm flex

00:29:34.760 here in a second but um uh was just told that human events was just referenced in the trial

00:29:41.600 so we are uh we are going to pull that clip as soon as we can if you guys remember that human

00:29:48.640 events, was one of the first media outlets to weigh in on this case and on the question

00:29:55.120 of trials, or excuse me, of cameras in the trial.

00:29:58.700 And look, you know, this is something that we firmly support.

00:30:02.000 Erica has also come out and said that she supports full camera access in the trial.

00:30:06.360 And I'll just say this from my perspective, it's really simple.

00:30:10.500 Charlie did not have a say in whether or not his death would be public.

00:30:16.260 Only the killer had a say in that.

00:30:17.680 And as such, the trial itself should also be public and fully on camera.

00:30:24.300 It's as simple as that.

00:30:25.620 I do want to bring in Malcolm Flex because we have so much other stuff to talk about.

00:30:30.080 We've got the Iran war, which is, of course, heating up.

00:30:33.760 We've also got the this blowback that is occurring in the United States, multiple terrorist related attacks, which took place just yesterday on American soil.

00:30:45.760 and of course unfortunately more to come flex wanted to get you in here now and kind of talk

00:30:51.920 your high level analysis of the situation both at home and abroad because in my mind there's

00:30:58.800 no question these are both indelibly linked yeah well you can say both of the situations are linked

00:31:05.120 as well as the whole charlie kirk situation i think when it comes to just sort of the policy

00:31:09.840 and how we're even getting here but you know as always before we talk about terrorism

00:31:15.600 yeah it's uh man honestly any anytime we talk about acts of terror or warfare you know first

00:31:23.440 off wanna you know my condolences go out to the families of those that have uh lost service

00:31:27.920 members as well as you know just the service members who have been involved and who continue

00:31:32.720 to be involved but yeah blowback is a real thing i don't think a lot of people consider when they

00:31:38.240 look at their phones these little glass screens and they see oh we just blew up this building

00:31:43.980 this building and this building they don't understand that again in every conflict the

00:31:49.040 enemy gets a vote and not just the enemy but sympathizers to the enemy i think we've misreferenced

00:31:55.560 and misunderstood how many people are sympathetic to what is going on in iran on the iranian side

00:32:03.280 And I think that we also misrepresent the pull of a of the Shiite faction of Islam that, you know, it we cannot say it enough.

00:32:15.620 This is more than just one nation. You have a lot of people who are Shiites instead of Sunnis.

00:32:22.820 And so when you attack Iran, who is, you know, they've got the Ayatollah. You just killed the Ayatollah. 0.93

00:32:28.340 that's like going in and killing the pope at some point you know you're going to have a lot of people 0.84

00:32:32.680 over here in other areas like brain and other areas of the middle east that are going to feel

00:32:38.140 some kind of way and guess what when things get bad enough and we're seeing a destabilization of

00:32:44.040 the economy we're seeing everything go a little bit haywire here people lose faith in the system

00:32:49.200 they lose faith in the system that allowed this to happen the system that perpetrates it as well

00:32:53.200 as the system that is supposed to protect them from something of this nature and that that also

00:32:58.600 happens in iran is so you get upheaval you get clashes and clashes cause a lot of people to act

00:33:04.420 in ways that they normally wouldn't so like i said again you've got the lebanese terrorist the guy

00:33:10.280 that uh you know again came from a family of lebanese people who claimed were killed by the

00:33:15.760 actions of a certain nation state so i mean is it any surprise that this was going to happen

00:33:23.100 and you know iran understands this i think that a lot of people over here don't understand that

00:33:28.220 yeah you can do bombing campaigns you can blow up things but when you blow up a desalination plant

00:33:32.020 when you blow up what is a school it doesn't matter if the intel was bad what you just did

00:33:37.600 was you destabilize the whole area of people who arguably now are losing the will to go back to the

00:33:43.740 status quo and therefore iran is playing by a different set of rules they understand they're

00:33:50.020 not going to inflict casualties on the united states in the same way the united states is going

00:33:53.700 to inflict casualties our win condition is to essentially destroy their ability to fight

00:33:58.720 their win condition is to destroy the ability of the american people to support this so they're

00:34:04.160 looking at it in a cost to destruction equation that cost of destruction equation means every

00:34:11.220 ten thousand dollar drone that destroys a million dollar to a hundred million dollar piece of

00:34:15.780 equipment that we have deployed or staged over there is a win doesn't matter how many people

00:34:21.180 they lose they've got people to make this happen and we're creating more and more people for them

00:34:26.820 political willpower energy galvanization that's what they're banking on and by doing this you're

00:34:33.500 creating a cohesive force and a cohesive group of people that now realize okay we're united against

00:34:40.380 a group that does not care about it regardless of what you say oh they're going to rise up and

00:34:45.140 whatnot no you're actually creating a rally around the flag effect and that's what you're saying that

00:34:51.160 and just just to just to pop in so that could potentially be one of the one of the factors in

00:34:57.520 why we haven't seen these these protests these um opposition groups getting involved because what

00:35:05.620 do we see we see the you know the um martyrdom they view the ayatollah as a martyr we're playing

00:35:12.080 some clips of that earlier. They're carrying his pictures. There was a huge pro-Palestinian

00:35:17.500 march today in Tehran. It's actually Quds Day, which is a day where they traditionally rally

00:35:24.240 for the Palestinian people. So this isn't anything new for them, but it's greatly added to 0.74

00:35:30.960 and exacerbated because they feel that they're under attack and under assault

00:35:34.980 by a foreign force, namely the U.S. and Israel. And so a lot of these are the same types of

00:35:41.380 factors that we saw in iraq and afghanistan uh where you know where you have the local populace

00:35:47.180 say hey you know maybe maybe the taliban aren't you know they're certainly not the the nicest guys 0.85

00:35:53.000 on the block but you know what we're up against a foreign threat and so we have to turn to the 0.92

00:35:59.080 people who are going to be brutal on our behalf does that make sense yes yes it's the same principle

00:36:06.280 of to fight monsters you must become monsters and honestly the united states are probably some of

00:36:11.580 the scariest monsters to some of these people that they've seen since the soviet union and they have

00:36:17.000 the playbook let's be honest the playbook is to draw it out be asymmetrical force them out the

00:36:23.860 long way in the hard way the united states may have money but right now again money is finite

00:36:28.940 and our supply of money is in flux and so all you have to do is make this as painful as possible

00:36:34.540 it's a lot easier in an asymmetrical war to survive especially when you've had 20 plus years

00:36:40.640 to prepare for it let's not forget that so it's a lot easier for them to execute their objectives

00:36:45.200 than it is for us to continually stage more and more of our men equipment as well as our plans 0.99

00:36:53.820 which are getting siphoned off by the chinese when we're already suffering from a a lack of 0.55

00:37:00.220 what we need which is political willpower to even engage in such so and and we're seeing also and 0.93

00:37:06.040 i know there's just a minute left and we'll have to get you back on to dig more into this and

00:37:09.660 realize we're going to have so much breaking with the tyler case but um that the uss triple e a full

00:37:15.560 marine expediciary unit and the amphibious assault ship have been uh we're told reportedly ordered

00:37:21.400 to the middle east so you're talking about 2200 marines f-35s and potential for more if they get

00:37:28.920 in malcolm flex where can people go to follow you and get access to your musings all right just

00:37:36.220 find me on x uh on not if you're not if you're politically motivated if you're like literally

00:37:41.940 in the bag of one side and you're swilling propaganda then you might not want to follow

00:37:47.760 me but other than that follow me on x and also check me out on instagram again i also fight

00:37:51.980 i'm a community fighter i do a lot of stuff just prepare stay strong and stay healthy people

00:37:58.920 all right check them out folks malcolm flex flexes warrior way thank you my friend right back human

00:38:04.440 events daily you know they talk about influences these are influences and uh they're friends of

00:38:15.160 mine jack or so like where's jack he's done a great job this relates to the broader concern

00:38:24.840 sure the second issue you're gonna i came across when i was preparing for the hearing today

00:38:28.920 a letter brief that is online, dated October 28, 2025, from a group called Human Events.

00:38:40.760 And it's addressed to Your Honor, and it's in the nature of a brief on the closure issues

00:38:50.680 we've been discussing today. It indicates at the bottom that it was CC'd to the parties,

00:38:57.240 But discussing with the prosecution, neither one.

00:39:02.220 From a group called Human Events or Tyler Robinson's lawyers, they're very upset that Human Events is calling for full transparency.

00:39:11.500 There's an open letter. OK, that means you can read it with your eyes and with your ability to understand the English language.

00:39:20.920 What do you mean? Oh, it wasn't provided to us. Well, you can just go to humanevents.com and read

00:39:27.580 it. It's called an open letter. That's what it's for. And it's, I mean, these, these people are

00:39:34.180 so desperate. Now, Tyler Robinson's lawyers are attacking human events directly in the trial,

00:39:41.940 simply for calling for transparency. Okay. All right. I see how it is. I see how it is.

00:39:47.780 We'll have more on that at a later date.

00:39:50.720 I want to go in because we have a new guest today that I'd be remiss if we didn't get on because, you know, we've been talking so much lately about these these issues with privacy.

00:40:02.080 We've been talking about, of course, recently this these questions about the uptick in I hate to say it, but these terrorist inspired incidents here in the United States.

00:40:11.980 And one of the real reasons that a lot of people have, especially if you're a conservative, especially if you're a patriot, if you're a Trump supporter, that if you're a Christian, that you potentially could be targeted.

00:40:24.800 And there's, of course, lots of reasons to want to protect your privacy.

00:40:28.960 So I want to bring on Skip Holst, who is the co-founder of our partners over at Patriot Protect.

00:40:36.080 Skip, how are you?

00:40:38.040 Jack, good to be here. Good to be here.

00:40:40.300 I mean, you know, you see me coming. You always got to be concerned because all we do all day is thinking about, you know, this the attack surface that everyday Americans have of just existing and having an Internet controlled and Internet connected world.

00:40:54.020 So we've been busy of late, to say the least, between everything that we normally do and then the upticks of everything that's been happening because of the, you know, just the sheer scale of cyber attacks coming out of Iran.

00:41:06.240 well so walk us through these cyber attacks is this is this like fishing are they going after

00:41:13.620 specific individuals who are associated with supporting president trump to try to build

00:41:18.620 target list that sort of thing i wish it were that simple um honestly the the there's a whole

00:41:24.960 history of it which i i'd love to give a little primer of but um we had just this week um the

00:41:32.600 largest, one of the largest breaches that we've seen that has hit the Stryker Medical Device

00:41:38.380 Company that happened just literally this week that was done by pro-Iran hackers. There's been

00:41:45.740 a whole history of state-aligned hacking coming out of Iran, going back from what started it all,

00:41:51.880 which was the Stuxnet worm that was done to disable the nuclear enrichment, you know,

00:41:57.820 centrifuges at Natanz in Iran. But Stryker was, this has been a huge breach that we've been

00:42:03.940 tracking. These, just so you know, I mean, Stryker is a company that, you know, they provide

00:42:09.980 everything from ambulance cots to, you know, defibrillation information and services to

00:42:16.000 hospitals and emergency medical services. And so this happened in, this was breached this week.

00:42:23.140 maryland's institute for emergency medical services systems said that the the emergency

00:42:29.060 medical services told hospitals in the state this was on wednesday that it received multiple reports

00:42:34.160 of striker's life net echocardiogram transmission system was quote non-functional in most parts of

00:42:40.640 the state of maryland and what this was was this was a um iranian state-aligned group that claimed

00:42:47.940 this attack. So this was such that no people, none of these emergency services could transmit

00:42:57.900 information over to the hospitals of the patients that they were working on. I mean,

00:43:03.960 this is an unprecedented attack that is affecting actual people that are getting actual care

00:43:09.620 here stateside. And so when you're talking about this, they're building together

00:43:17.780 these lists of individuals, what could people do to potentially protect themselves if they view

00:43:25.740 that Iran might be trying to gather up this information, that they might be using open

00:43:31.620 source databases? What can people do to protect themselves, their family, and their loved ones

00:43:35.800 in times like these? Listen, I mean, I take no pleasure in saying this, but the reality is if

00:43:42.120 you're an American taxpayer over the age of 18, you have your information published by

00:43:46.880 hundreds of data brokers all over the internet if you and i invite everybody to do this go to google

00:43:53.700 type in your name and address and press enter and you will see pages and pages and pages of

00:43:59.940 information about you as an individual your age your name your email addresses your phone numbers

00:44:06.120 your relatives names your physical addresses and your past addresses this is just this is this has

00:44:12.340 nothing to do with Iran. This is just what the reality that we live in today of an internet

00:44:16.800 connected world. And the question you have to ask yourself is, do you want to have all this

00:44:21.920 information out there about you? We have so many scams that are coming at us all day. You probably

00:44:31.780 get them. The USPS scams, those normal phishing attacks that say like, hey, did you apply for

00:44:38.920 this job, those text messages, and then they rope you in, they ask you to transfer over to WhatsApp.

00:44:44.040 There's a huge amount of ways that they can get to you. And the reason that when this information

00:44:49.600 is published about you, why it's so dangerous, is that they can make you believable. They can

00:44:55.440 target your relatives and say, hey, it's your grandson. You know, I'm in a jam. I just got

00:45:00.860 arrested. I need you to send money over to me. And then they can spoof a different account and

00:45:05.680 get your grandmother to send money over. We say this all the time about how scammers have been

00:45:11.560 doing this. We think about scammers of just sending information out there and just fishing

00:45:17.320 and seeing what they can do. But with AI, we say that we think that scammers are using bows and

00:45:23.560 arrows when the reality is that they moved on to gunpowder. And so what can you do as an individual

00:45:28.900 to make sure that you have a cybersecurity company that's on your side is to use a service like

00:45:35.300 ours, to use Patriot Protect. Again, we don't want to have to be doing this. This is a call

00:45:40.660 to action for us as privacy-interested individuals. People thought that we were being alarmist when

00:45:46.880 we said back in 2012, 2013, when the IRGC launched Operation Ababil and the DDOS attacked 46 major

00:45:56.860 financial institutions. I'm talking Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, New York

00:46:01.760 Stock Exchange, Capital One. And this was a cumulative period of 250 hours where you could

00:46:08.820 not log in to your personal banking account. Imagine if you were at the cashier with a cart

00:46:16.400 full of groceries, you go to swipe your credit card and it doesn't work because there was this 1.00

00:46:21.420 Iranian-linked breach of the systems that you rely on every day. That happened over 15 years ago. 0.74

00:46:29.320 So with the capacity that they have now to disrupt everyday life that we saw just this week with the striker attack, that was just a drop in the bucket compared to what their capacity is now.

00:46:41.360 And so what we do, what Patriot Protect does for you is make you a much higher cost target so that when these cyber criminals, the hackers, the scammers, they're a business, an illegal one, but they're a business just like any other.

00:46:59.960 And they want to make sure that they're getting an ROI on their information.

00:47:04.160 You know, one of the things that we provide is our blackout service to show you what's leaked on the dark web about you.

00:47:11.980 We look back to 2008.

00:47:14.140 People get, you know, we show the hacks that was done on AT&T.

00:47:17.900 You know, we show you what has been put out there about you and what you can do about it.

00:47:22.820 Because the reality is these leaks happen every single day.

00:47:26.540 And I got to tell you, boy, are we busy these days.

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00:47:58.640 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.

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