Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - May 21, 2026


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00:00:00.000 Hey guys, it's Jack. I wanted to let you know that we're starting a new push for subscriptions
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00:00:22.660 Look, we've done so much over the past couple of years since this show started, and we're
00:00:26.840 only going to do so much more. Let's get it. This is what happens when the fourth turning
00:00:37.280 meets fifth generation warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation,
00:00:48.100 and former Navy intelligence veteran. This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:53.500 Christ is king.
00:00:55.060 I think the elections are so rigged and we have to do something about it and we're going
00:00:59.000 to do something about it, but we cannot continue to have.
00:01:02.180 And frankly, the Senate and the House, they ought to get together and they ought to pass
00:01:06.040 the Save America Act so that you have a voter ID and it's so important you have proof of
00:01:11.280 citizenship, little thing like proof of citizenship.
00:01:15.040 Confusion on an Air France flight set to land in Detroit, but diverted to Montreal over
00:01:20.540 fears someone exposed to the Ebola outbreak was on board. A Minnesota judge has just sentenced
00:01:26.320 the mastermind behind the Feeding Our Future fraud scheme, Amy Bach. She just got more than 41 years 0.71
00:01:34.220 in prison. The DOJ announcing the indictment of former Cuban President Raul Castro. Those charges,
00:01:41.040 including allegations of murder after those pilots carrying humanitarian aid to Cuba,
00:01:46.060 were killed. All of this happening as Cubans endure a near total blackout and a collapsing
00:01:51.800 economy amid severe sanctions from the Trump administration. Secretary of State Marco Rubio
00:01:56.780 saying the issues on the island have been created by this regime, prompting a response from the
00:02:02.660 Cuban foreign minister who shifted the blame back to the U.S. The House Oversight Committee
00:02:08.140 referring the House Ethics Committee to investigate far left Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.
00:02:13.620 It concerned a controversial change to her financial disclosures that dramatically cut her family's reported wealth.
00:02:20.340 We are learning more about the professional signature collector who agreed to plead guilty to paying homeless people to register to vote in Los Angeles.
00:02:28.040 Brenda Lee Brown Armstrong admitted she used to pay people on Skid Row two or three dollars to sign ballot initiative petitions and gave homeless people her address to use so they could register to vote.
00:02:39.460 Turns out there was more to that settlement between President Trump and the IRS.
00:02:44.400 The Justice Department is now forever barred from auditing Trump.
00:02:48.580 The addendum, which was quietly added Tuesday, says that the government cannot examine tax returns of the president, his family, his company or related companies.
00:03:00.080 It applies to anything filed before the agreement was reached, which was on Monday.
00:03:04.060 Remember what I said, 20 to 25 percent of the people coming into our country will come in through birthright citizenship.
00:03:12.400 They'll become citizens. Birthright citizenship is a disgrace. 0.99
00:03:20.100 Well, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. 0.99
00:03:23.680 We're here live. Real America's voice today is May 21st, 2026.
00:03:30.180 Anno Domine. I want to talk about a story in the United Kingdom. Elon Musk has been weighing in on
00:03:39.260 this. There is a lawsuit from the family against local police that's going on right now. And there
00:03:48.940 has been a lot of online chatter, but not a lot of real world response. Mainstream media couldn't
00:03:57.940 care less this is the case of a young student first year university student named henry novak
00:04:07.020 and henry novak on december 3rd 2025 23 years old of polish descent he was walking home from a night
00:04:18.860 out when a violent interaction happened with a 23-year-old individual named Vikram Singh
00:04:28.040 Digua. And Digua apparently was wearing a ceremonial Sikh knife. That knife that he
00:04:40.380 wore around his neck was used to stab Henry Novak five times. Officers from Hampshire and the Isle of
00:04:51.360 White constabulary arrived at the scene and Degua alleged that Novak had racially abused him and
00:04:59.400 assaulted him. Trusting the suspect's allegation, police then handcuffed Henry Novak, who was
00:05:07.720 heavily bleeding after being stabbed five times.
00:05:14.000 They put him on the ground and not only did he bleed out on the street,
00:05:22.380 he died.
00:05:24.820 They only began administering first aid after he collapsed and lost consciousness.
00:05:30.300 And this included a punctured lung.
00:05:37.720 Now, let's be very clear about this.
00:05:41.980 Let's be very, very clear about this.
00:05:48.580 Novak tried to escape.
00:05:51.260 He tried to escape by getting over a fence.
00:05:56.260 There was no information.
00:05:59.180 There was no evidence whatsoever that he had used racial slurs, racial epithets at all.
00:06:04.640 So where's the international outrage when it's a white student who gets killed like this?
00:06:14.180 Where's the media outrage?
00:06:16.580 Where's the political class putting up their outrage? 0.98
00:06:20.820 Anything.
00:06:22.200 Where's the sports teams putting him up on the jumbotron and holding a moment of silence
00:06:31.740 during the national anthem?
00:06:34.640 It doesn't happen because they don't care about the victims in these cases, and they
00:06:42.660 especially don't care when the victim is an innocent white student. 0.96
00:06:50.040 Make no mistake, the far left loves when innocent white people die. 0.89
00:06:57.800 They love it, they support it, and they encourage it. 0.81
00:07:02.440 But that's what's going on here.
00:07:05.020 That's why you won't hear soon-to-be former Prime Minister Keir Starmer say one bloody word about this.
00:07:15.780 Newcast Daily continues.
00:07:17.620 Stand in our way and our golden age has just begun.
00:07:21.240 This is Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:07:23.020 Now it's time for everyone to understand what America First truly means.
00:07:27.480 Welcome to the second American revolution.
00:07:32.440 All right, Jack, we're back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
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00:09:38.220 All right, we got Arn McIntyre on here today.
00:09:42.280 Arn, how are you?
00:09:44.000 Doing well. Thanks for having me.
00:09:46.200 So I kind of stumbled on this thread that has been going really viral,
00:09:53.500 and I wanted to get you on it.
00:09:55.100 actually comes from my mom of all places, right? So my mom comes to me and she says,
00:10:01.720 she says, Jack, I don't like what's going on at Valley Forge. I'm like, mom, what are you
00:10:08.420 talking about? What's going on? It's back, I think, March. And I said, what do you mean?
00:10:12.220 And she goes, when America had its 200th, the bicentennial, this was one of the biggest events
00:10:21.020 that's ever happened was certainly one of the biggest events in the philadelphia area and it
00:10:25.960 was all across the country and in fact growing up she would always tell me stories of what the
00:10:31.440 wagon trains would be like of how many people uh thousands upon thousands of people who just showed
00:10:37.020 up at valley forge on uh july 4th 7 or 1976 and uh gerald ford comes in and we've got some pictures
00:10:45.960 here you can see him just walking around in the crowd which is just uh and this by the way this
00:10:50.160 is after he suffered multiple assassination attempts. They still just, you know, just let
00:10:54.000 him walk around in the crowd. And she was telling me that she just felt that the 250th has been so
00:11:02.060 muted. That's a, that's a picture of my, my mom and my grandmom and her cousin on, on horseback
00:11:08.840 there. And she just felt that the 250th is being so muted, so toned down from that event. And I
00:11:19.960 said you know what because we're not that country anymore so i wanted to bring you on and kind of
00:11:24.740 get your take on this and i you know i threw it up on on x and it's just been going hyper viral
00:11:29.180 people saying what yeah it's it's just look it's not an attack on the president or anything that
00:11:34.300 he's he's clearly doing what he can but it's just not catching fire the way that the 1976 one did
00:11:41.460 well there's so many factors in why this is an event that's being less observed this time around
00:11:48.700 And of course, the first one that you have to think about is look at these pictures. Look at the demographics. Who's in them? Right. These are Americans who have had a long history in the country. Many of these people were in living memory, part of World War Two and were forged in a fire of patriotism, of defending their country, of serving their country.
00:12:09.040 These are people who had ancestors, who had rich histories that reach well back into the history of the nation.
00:12:16.380 And even the newcomers had had those formative experiences like the war that brought them into kind of the bosom of the nation that ultimately helped them to identify as Americans and people who wanted to celebrate what the country was doing.
00:12:30.280 Today, we've seen a radical shift.
00:12:32.400 We know there could be 30 to 50 million illegals in the country.
00:12:36.240 And even for the legal immigrants, many of them are new.
00:12:39.520 They're coming from nations that are entirely unconnected to the European or Western tradition. 0.96
00:12:44.760 This is simply not their history.
00:12:46.360 And while they might ultimately be glad to be in the United States, maybe some of them, many of them are even grateful for what the United States has meant to them and what it's done for them.
00:12:55.460 It's just not their story.
00:12:56.720 They don't have that moment where they joined the American military and fought against the communists or the Nazis or any of these things.
00:13:04.420 They ultimately were just people who showed up and made money and probably sent that money back.
00:13:09.040 And again, maybe they're grateful, but that doesn't really make them part of the American fabric.
00:13:13.740 And so you can understand why so many people are ultimately not getting engaged in this, even though they are in the United States.
00:13:20.980 We also have the fact that even the Americans who are part of the United States have been taught that their history is evil, that they're oppressors, they're colonialists, they're the kind of people who ruin the world, and ultimately their history is shameful.
00:13:34.600 It's one of slavery and oppression and stealing things from the Native Americans or whatever, and so ultimately they don't see a reason to engage in this kind of celebration.
00:13:43.160 yeah i mean number one it's it just the most obvious to your point is that the foreign-born
00:13:50.300 population has quadrupled it has quadrupled since the 1970s um so i believe you know depending on
00:13:56.880 which study you look at it's as many as one in eight or one in seven is either a descendant or
00:14:03.480 first gen or you know excuse me an immigrant or first generation uh descendant of a migrant and
00:14:09.000 the places that they're coming from, again, are places that, as you and I have spoken about many
00:14:13.340 times, do not have any direct connection to our history. They're, you know, this isn't Europe. 0.70
00:14:19.580 These are, these are places from all around the world. And so the ability to have a direct
00:14:25.840 connection to the American story is diluted. And at the same time, you have that, that physical
00:14:34.020 dilution. Now we're seeing the rise of, you know, of course, throughout, I would say starting in the
00:14:39.900 1990s and then, you know, certainly increasing during the woke era, this narrative that we
00:14:45.420 should hate our country, that America is evil, America is responsible for all the evils in the
00:14:50.920 world. Howard Zinn's, you know, sort of history of America really just took over and it's just
00:14:55.660 really taken over since then. And one thing I thought that was interesting too was, because
00:15:00.520 when I've seen some of the images and people are just sending in their stories, just incredible
00:15:05.460 stories, the tall ships in Boston and other things that occurred during the bicentennial
00:15:10.900 and that corporations were all over the place with branding and logos.
00:15:16.180 I will admit that Coke has actually been pretty good.
00:15:19.120 They could be better, but they have been putting the branding, I think, on a lot of Coca-Cola
00:15:23.180 things that we see at Little League and stuff like that.
00:15:26.180 But one of the one of the things I thought was so interesting was that, you know, the 70s were not exactly just an idyllic time in America either.
00:15:34.680 The economy was really bad. The president had just resigned.
00:15:38.880 So that's why you see Ford there. Obviously, the Vietnam was, you know, kind of just ending.
00:15:45.080 I mean, this was an era that had actually seen, you know, a lot of tumult in the United States.
00:15:50.920 But at the same time, Americans still loved their country.
00:15:54.860 They still had that core, and that speaks to something, I think, that totally is lost when you treat America as a propositional nation.
00:16:05.660 Exactly. A country is its people, and without that connection, without that connection to the history, to the land, to the tradition, to the heritage, ultimately these things fall away.
00:16:15.900 People have to be rooted in communities. They have to have some kind of history with the nation to ultimately appreciate that.
00:16:23.040 Again, there are probably many new immigrants who at some level appreciate the United States, but they simply don't have the language. 1.00
00:16:30.000 I used to teach public high school and I used to teach history. 1.00
00:16:33.580 And it was just amazing how high the level of ignorance was before people came into the classroom.
00:16:39.440 People, of course, have to learn once they're in the school.
00:16:42.340 But we take for granted how much of this knowledge is passed on by just being in the country, having your parents tell you about it, reading you bedtime stories, hearing this in the background.
00:16:53.700 A country's tradition, its history becomes its own language.
00:16:57.520 You allude to things in the history so people understand what's going on.
00:17:01.620 It's baked into TV shows, movies, references, books, music.
00:17:05.800 these are the things that weave together and build that cultural zeitgeist that cultural
00:17:10.100 understanding that we draw from and even if you haven't directly learned every piece of the
00:17:14.600 history that makes you want to understand it then when you it comes time to to go and learn it and
00:17:20.540 it ultimately wants you to celebrate it when it comes time to these type of huge landmarks so i
00:17:25.600 think that that just falling away of the population having that binding experience having that history
00:17:31.280 understanding who they are and celebrating that identity that's a lot of the reason that we're
00:17:36.540 just not seeing no momentum today even if people wanted to celebrate the 250th many of them don't
00:17:42.400 even know what to be there would be celebrating in the first place yeah i mean i i my mom i remember
00:17:50.140 was saying that she just it just blew her mind that valley forge is not doing a huge um fourth
00:17:56.840 of July celebration for the 250th and they're doing a regular celebration, but it's not even
00:18:01.780 really their fault. And she was telling me that there were a number of people that have reached
00:18:06.320 out to her since, well, you know, cause of course me being me running a website, I said, Hey mom,
00:18:09.920 write it up and we'll, you know, put it on human events. And we did. And so people have now been
00:18:14.100 reaching out to her saying that, you know, Hey, we still have the wagon from 50 years ago that
00:18:19.300 these covered wagon images, by the way, folks, I want everyone to be clear. These came from all 50
00:18:24.840 states that had volunteers uh and and crowdfunded i guess you would say volunteer funded uh that
00:18:32.160 marched or i guess drove they actually drove wagon trains to valley forge from all 50 states in 1976
00:18:40.800 not sure they got hawaii but you know we'll we'll figure that out later um but it's just this was
00:18:46.280 incredible grassroots uprising of support and she was even saying that people are asking about maybe
00:18:52.120 doing their own volunteer thing just because it doesn't seem like there's any official ones
00:18:57.160 but a lot of people are starting to kind of look at that saying hey wait a minute why is the 250th
00:19:03.000 very very different from the 200th for people who remember what it was like right back jack
00:19:09.240 Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real Marker's Voice.
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00:19:27.060 All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily.
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00:21:04.080 So and and I are in the thing that I like about this conversation or getting into the bicentennial is it actually helps us kind of get away from some of the just awkward phrasing that we have to use sometimes when we're talking about what does it mean to be a patriotic nation?
00:21:21.400 And I can just say, hey, look at the bicentennial. You remember that? That that's what we're talking about. It's right there. It was cool. Everybody liked it.
00:21:29.080 you know you can you can discuss it you can you know you can come up with phrases for it you can
00:21:34.760 unpack it but but you get it you just get it everyone has this shared culture shared identity
00:21:40.000 and it was a good thing and the media tries to tell us that this america was bad but it wasn't
00:21:45.740 because we can see the pictures and people within living memory actually liked it they enjoyed it
00:21:50.380 they had a great time it's really as simple as that yeah it really is such a sigh off that the
00:21:57.240 media is trying to push on us that people were never patriotic they never truly loved america
00:22:01.720 they were never sincere and this has also built up something in our society when it comes to
00:22:06.320 authenticity it's now seen as uncool to sincerely celebrate something to to uh go out there and put
00:22:14.160 together a float to reenact a battle to you know salute the flag sing sing the songs uh you know
00:22:21.140 all of this is considered hokey it's considered backwards it's considered somehow unsophisticated
00:22:26.540 And no one could really enjoy something like this. No one could legitimately celebrate in this way. You have to be some kind of loser, some kind of naive fool to actually invest or feel this way about a country where you would put on a uniform, celebrate, dress up all these things.
00:22:42.200 And so I think that shift away from authenticity, that desire to be irony poison, to take everything and remove, everything has to be ironic the entire time. I think that really cuts into the patriotic celebration. 0.99
00:22:53.740 i think it's exactly right and it's you know i don't know if it's this it's this like millennial
00:23:00.260 post irony kind of thing that's you know just swept the nation and you know oh if you're if
00:23:06.460 you believe something earnestly like your cringe or oh how dare you actually care oh what you care
00:23:12.600 about something oh that's that's you know that's that gives me the ick you know whereas you know
00:23:18.000 So it's actually much better to live a life where you authentically enjoy things, where you like things, where you want to go on board with that.
00:23:26.340 That doesn't mean you have to sit there and endlessly, you know, get into all the debates about, well, you know, technically this thing was like this.
00:23:35.360 And by the way, I'm just going to just going to throw it out.
00:23:37.960 You can actually see, I think, in the background of one of the pictures, there's a Confederate flag there, right?
00:23:42.740 Because this wasn't something that was considered abrasive or, you know, like some horrible thing.
00:23:51.440 It was just considered part of history.
00:23:53.200 It was part of our shared history.
00:23:55.720 Yeah, I know.
00:23:56.320 I was actually going to bring up exactly that.
00:23:58.140 You can see even at the event where the president is, there are Confederate flags.
00:24:02.100 Imagine something like that happening today.
00:24:04.200 It would be the biggest scandal that we've had in years.
00:24:07.600 But that was part of our history. That was part of a significant chunk of our country and an experience they had gone through, something that had rend our nation apart, but then brought it back together, healed over time and defined who we were.
00:24:22.840 It was part of the story and we weren't ashamed of it.
00:24:25.460 It didn't mean that we celebrated that one instance, but ultimately we understood that a country is a tapestry of different events and moments and all of them are valid and all of them are moving us towards who we are.
00:24:38.380 And now we're taught to, again, be shamed about history.
00:24:41.400 Everything is offensive.
00:24:42.740 We can't actually embrace our history because it's something that we should always look down on.
00:24:47.620 We should always feel bad about.
00:24:49.420 The past is all dead.
00:24:50.960 It's all terrible.
00:24:51.800 The only thing that's good is the new future that the left, that the progressives are forging.
00:24:56.520 That's what the media wants us to think when we see these patriotic displays.
00:25:00.220 But we have to move past this.
00:25:01.900 And I think you're right that ultimately people who can sincerely engage in things like this,
00:25:06.140 people who are bringing up their children to truly love the country,
00:25:09.100 to truly celebrate something without irony,
00:25:12.200 without the need to somehow show some kind of cynical distance between them and that which they really love,
00:25:17.360 those people are just happier.
00:25:18.620 We all know this when we see people who are able to engage and celebrate in this way.
00:25:23.420 They are much happier people, and that's what we should be encouraging.
00:25:26.500 We don't need our kids to be the most ironic people in the room.
00:25:29.860 We need them to be people who love the United States and want to see it carry on to the future.
00:25:35.120 Yeah, and this carried over into the 1990s.
00:25:37.520 I remember I was going back with my son, and we were watching the old DuckTales series from the 90s,
00:25:44.640 And there is actually an episode where Launchpad, I guess, takes part in a Civil War reenactment.
00:25:52.100 And, of course, this is the Northern Ducks versus the Southern Ducks.
00:25:55.160 But they have Confederate flags all over the episode.
00:25:57.820 Now, Launchpad, of course, was on the North.
00:25:59.840 But it was not presented as some sort of great evil.
00:26:04.220 It was just a historical thing that happened.
00:26:07.220 And, of course, that episode is completely banned now.
00:26:10.520 Again, this is why we've purged all of this media.
00:26:14.080 You know, no longer are we allowed to watch Gone with the Wind without some kind of disclaimer.
00:26:19.540 Gods and Generals is the most evil movie ever made.
00:26:22.020 We're not allowed to acknowledge that the Southerners were people, that they were Americans, that they had their own understanding of the world and in many cases legitimate questions about the Constitution and the way that states should have rights and how we should live and the centralization of powers.
00:26:36.920 Now, ultimately, history went the way it did.
00:26:38.880 And so now we celebrate them as part of the tapestry of the United States.
00:26:42.820 and when you have that understanding when you're willing to look at different people in your country
00:26:46.720 and say they might have had different beliefs they might have made a wrong term maybe maybe
00:26:50.640 they made a turn that in some ways was right but they were part of the mosaic that is america
00:26:56.560 that's how nations are forged oren mcintyre where can people follow your brother
00:26:59.680 oren mcintyre show on the blaze youtube all that stuff give me a follow folks thanks man
00:27:06.340 where's jack where's jack where is he jack i want to see you
00:27:15.660 great job jack thank you what a job you do you know we have an incredible thing we're always
00:27:23.140 talking about the fake news and the bad but we have guys and these are the guys who'd be getting
00:27:28.080 policies i don't regret it i hate them okay that was the last straw i've forgiven him for so many
00:27:35.660 things but it screwed me up so much being me and you name it okay so do you want it so 0.77
00:27:44.400 what what did you use to kill your parents then my gun is it the same gun that you had
00:27:53.160 You surrender to the boys?
00:27:55.360 Yeah.
00:27:57.420 All right, Jack Posobiec back live, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
00:28:03.560 And we talked about this yesterday a little bit with Tyler Boyer,
00:28:07.360 but we got into it on Tim Poole last night where Tim was, he's been out sick,
00:28:13.320 so he graciously allowed me to guest host the program.
00:28:17.820 And one thing that was actually kind of amazing was I didn't even realize that.
00:28:21.940 So our guest last night, Dr. Dr. Yosef, his, Dr. Yosef with Doring, his backyard is actually was caught.
00:28:36.820 And so he was able to tell us the story of being there for the takedown.
00:28:41.160 He actually lived in this area of Washington City, Utah, and just told us the story of how they, you know,
00:28:48.360 the police kind of took over his house and were using it to set up snipers and potential
00:28:53.200 assault teams. And eventually had, you know, had because Bailey had barricaded himself after
00:29:02.900 shooting his parents. And then, you know, they had the negotiators and were able to get him to
00:29:09.960 surrender eventually. And what blew my mind on that beyond just the obvious was that we actually
00:29:18.960 looked up the addresses and that Colin Bailey's parents' house was five minutes away from Tyler
00:29:28.120 robinson's parents house two miles away right down the road and two incredibly high-profile
00:29:39.640 criminal acts violent acts committed by people one a trans one in relationship with the trans
00:29:46.440 it you know it's it's really asking us so many questions so i wanted to get on
00:29:52.200 chloe cole here herself of course an outspoken uh d trans i guess i could say d trans advocate
00:29:59.940 chloe could we say that yes that's pretty accurate yeah i like that i like d trans advocate
00:30:06.060 be uh you're someone who's uh you know been to been to the dark side and back on this issue
00:30:13.360 and i just got to ask you you know because i can't make head or tails of it what do you make
00:30:19.740 of these two individuals actually apparently growing up very close to each other
00:30:25.080 well i mean i don't know the community myself i haven't been to washington utah but from what i
00:30:32.660 do know of it and from these two people's backgrounds they came from very conservative
00:30:38.560 families and very conservative areas of the country and i feel like even if these crimes
00:30:45.260 aren't necessarily connected and these people didn't know each other it just goes to show
00:30:48.860 how powerful ideologies like this are on people my age who may have grown up with strong values
00:30:54.600 and in good communities and yet they still are they still managed to be to be led astray
00:31:00.800 and that's and that's exactly right and yes by the way i'm glad you said that i do want to be
00:31:07.340 clear i'm not alleging that there was any connection between these events or between
00:31:12.800 these individuals i mean i mean stands to reason they may have you know interacted at some point
00:31:17.420 or shopped at the same store or something like that.
00:31:21.020 But I don't have any evidence that they knew each other
00:31:24.200 or worked together or anything like that,
00:31:25.820 and I'm not making that claim.
00:31:27.560 Although I would, the one piece, though, Chloe,
00:31:29.660 that I would potentially want to look a little bit more
00:31:32.880 is the school system.
00:31:34.720 Because if they're districted,
00:31:36.500 if they live that close together,
00:31:38.100 then presumably they're districted for the same,
00:31:41.300 maybe elementary school, maybe high school.
00:31:43.480 And we have seen, in general,
00:31:45.920 that that is a place where many of these ideologies have been known to get dug in.
00:31:51.920 Right. And I mean, they could have learned about this from anywhere, being the internet is the
00:31:58.140 primary source of where even I myself had learned about transgender ideology at such a young age
00:32:03.520 and was led into it. And schools had followed the internet and these ideologies that initially
00:32:09.040 came from online. And what this really brings to mind is this phrase, death before detransition,
00:32:15.020 that you often hear radical transgender activists talk about.
00:32:18.300 And when they say things like that, they're not talking about suicide.
00:32:20.840 They see normal, everyday people who believe in biological reality
00:32:24.760 as threats to their ideologies, as threats to their own livelihoods,
00:32:30.560 because we refuse to participate in it.
00:32:34.040 Bailey killed his own parents because they refused to pay for
00:32:36.940 and financially support him undergoing a surgical sex change.
00:32:41.200 so in that case you do see the hormones uh you do see the transition going along but i guess
00:32:50.920 to your point with with the ideology then you know with with tyler robinson as far as we know
00:32:57.220 had not been undergoing any of that i'm sure there's you know perhaps more could come out
00:33:01.800 at the trial but someone who's someone who's in that community someone who's interacting with
00:33:07.520 that community and someone who is acting on, and we've had numerous psychologists here
00:33:12.980 come here on the program and say that it's their belief that Tyler Robinson did this
00:33:19.740 to sort of impress his lover or to protect his lover, Lance Twiggs, in a sort of strange
00:33:30.040 uh white knight kind of situation where charlie kirk is this figure of of hate and a threat and
00:33:38.920 i'm taking out a threat to my loved one does that make sense yes and that's why you'll often see
00:33:44.800 even at these rallies and in these in in tyler robinson's case even people who don't necessarily
00:33:51.340 identify within this community they act upon this upon people like us in such a violent manner
00:33:57.760 because they are conditioned into believing that there is a genocide being waged
00:34:02.820 against an entire part, an entire population in the country.
00:34:06.320 And if you think that there is a genocide being waged,
00:34:09.740 that there is life-saving health care taken away from an entire community,
00:34:14.320 from even children, what won't you do to avenge those young people?
00:34:20.500 You know, that's something that I remember hearing over and over.
00:34:23.680 And I want to say in 2024, I was on some debate
00:34:26.160 and somebody brought up the transgenocide and it was this this phrase they used to hear over and
00:34:30.820 over tell us a little bit about what the and i don't think they do it quite as much anymore maybe
00:34:35.720 they do in their circles tell us a little bit about what this transgenocide belief is
00:34:40.420 so what this belief really means is that people like us who are or lawmakers who are advocating
00:34:48.200 for or putting in place laws that stop children from being able to access these experimental
00:34:55.100 treatments that will make them infertile that will take away healthy parts of their body
00:34:58.460 is actually revoking life-saving and very necessary care for them because they believe 0.92
00:35:03.660 that transgender people cannot even exist they can't bear to live if they're not undergoing
00:35:08.860 these these sex rejection procedures and so within the ideology if a person is basically
00:35:16.220 not allowed to do whatever they want with their own bodies then they're they're tell they're
00:35:20.700 They're told that you're you're at risk of committing suicide.
00:35:24.060 You're at risk of feeling more and more incongruent with their body and you literally cannot survive without it.
00:35:31.480 So the idea then is that, I mean, it's it seems convoluted, right, in terms of a reasoning, just because, you know, I mean, I think the obvious person would, you know, if they're referring to something like that, you might think of, oh, I don't know, some kind of military situation, a war situation, Iran, Ukraine, something like that.
00:35:50.700 That you're not – it seems to be this logic chain that you have to jump through a whole number of hoops to get there.
00:35:57.480 Right. It's not really straightforward.
00:35:59.140 And when they say genocide, they're not referring to people literally taking action to take other transgender-identified people's lives.
00:36:08.120 They are talking about these individuals taking their own lives, committing suicide.
00:36:12.620 That is not even remotely the same thing.
00:36:14.480 And yes, there is an increased risk of these of these individuals experiencing suicidal ideation, even attempting or completing suicides.
00:36:22.980 But it's not because of outside pressure.
00:36:25.280 It is because these are people who are vulnerable, who are struggling with things like sexual trauma, familial issues, and are becoming increasingly radicalized by these spaces that they are in and becoming unhealthier rather than actually getting better and having better outcomes post-transition.
00:36:41.640 It just goes to show that the experiment is not working.
00:36:43.800 And we need to immediately stop this practice of lying to young people. We need to stop mutilating
00:36:50.020 them. We need to stop castrating them. And we need to crack down on these radical groups that
00:36:54.740 are increasingly taking more and more young minds. I couldn't agree more. And in fact,
00:37:00.420 we're starting to see more. I think I just saw a headline this morning that there was another
00:37:03.180 settlement that someone was able to receive from doctors who, and apologies, I don't have the
00:37:09.940 uh in the headline or the story right in front of me but there was a three-figure settlement
00:37:14.320 over a lawsuit regarding a double mastectomy yes and i believe that you're referring to a
00:37:20.520 friend of mine camille kiffle who has been in a lawsuit for years with her own doctors and oh my
00:37:24.480 gosh yes yes i didn't realize you know yeah of course yes that's exact that's exactly the one
00:37:29.080 we're coming from a quick break let's uh i want to unpack that a little bit more across the uh
00:37:34.020 across the break here and actually talk about your event that faced a similar situation here
00:37:40.400 at Jack Posobiec, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice. It's the Jack Posobiec Appreciation Hour.
00:37:46.520 I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee
00:37:51.180 if it wasn't for Jack Posobiec. And that is, I'll be honest. All right, Jack Posobiec back live here,
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00:38:59.860 of course, you were scheduled to speak at the University of Washington, Turning Point event,
00:39:04.980 and it was going to be this huge event. We were certainly looking forward to covering it,
00:39:08.580 and that event had to get postponed because of a horrific incident of violence that took place
00:39:18.140 on or near campus, which involved a transgender individual being murdered.
00:39:25.160 Now, that wasn't your fault.
00:39:27.100 That wasn't Turning Point's fault.
00:39:28.720 It was completely unrelated to anything that was going on.
00:39:32.800 And yet they were trying to blame you and Turning Point for this, weren't they?
00:39:38.140 Yes.
00:39:38.900 So this was supposed to be like really any other speaking event.
00:39:43.160 It was going to be my actually my final event of the semester working with Turning Point.
00:39:48.140 until the next one. But we had to shut it down because in advance of the event, we were getting
00:39:55.720 so many different threats. Me personally, the chapter, and a lot of people at Turning Point
00:40:01.900 were being threatened by these radical Antifa groups in the area. And so something that we
00:40:08.100 were already keeping watch on, but we could never have anticipated the horrific murder that happened
00:40:13.140 on campus. But rather than these radical activists calling for an investigation into the murder
00:40:19.440 and to finding the perpetrator, making sure he stays locked up and gets sent to prison,
00:40:26.200 they were calling for violence against speakers like me, who speak about this issue in a very
00:40:31.960 critical but compassionate way, yes, and blaming people like us and our rhetoric for the murder,
00:40:38.880 for crimes that we had nothing to do with right and so i remember looking into this when it
00:40:46.400 happened and of course as usual the media and this of course seattle was not putting out
00:40:52.600 what the actual suspects um information was and we later find that the suspect was in fact
00:41:01.560 a 31-year-old black male and he turned himself in a couple of days after his photo and his
00:41:09.460 description were shared by media. And again, to your point, we don't know whatever the specific
00:41:15.360 motive was here. We're waiting to hear more from the trial. But we do have, and this is just
00:41:20.260 according to local news, that in fact this individual, Leahy, was connected to other
00:41:27.160 other attempts to break into or stalk people around the area that he had sort of been known
00:41:35.420 as a prowler that had been in in the area for some time. And it's again, it's, you know,
00:41:43.060 we don't know exactly, but but it's entirely possible that this was just a random act of
00:41:47.100 violence by a known stalker, a known prowler who had tried to get into other buildings and may not
00:41:53.500 have been connected to this trans identity at all. And yet what these groups do was that they
00:42:00.140 will take these elements of violence that are singular events and try to tie it into this
00:42:05.500 narrative that we were just talking about, that there's this trans genocide, that people are
00:42:10.820 killing themselves because they have to, or that there's murders going on. And it's all the fault 0.98
00:42:15.260 of Donald Trump and Charlie Kirk and Jack Posobiec and Chloe Cole and Turing Point USA. And it's just
00:42:21.460 not true. Right. I mean, we don't have an official motive yet for why the murder took place.
00:42:32.220 But it really does seem like a case of two tenets of progressive ideology clashing with one another,
00:42:40.620 of a transgender individual being murdered by somebody who possibly might have been let off
00:42:45.760 the hook far too many times. We have in states like Washington, we have these policies in place
00:42:51.360 that make it so that repeat criminals or people who obviously should be arrested are able to get back out onto the street
00:42:59.220 and continue having this erratic behavior, continue committing crimes for whatever reason.
00:43:07.540 Exactly. And that's the craziest part of all is that if – just to unpack what you're saying there,
00:43:14.500 If conservative policies were actually followed the way that we support them and the way that
00:43:21.580 we advocate for, then quite possibly that person would have been a lot.
00:43:26.140 yes and it's an incredible shame that that that this has happened
00:43:51.160 that these people cared about this person because he was transgender,
00:43:58.360 not because he was simply a student who was murdered. 0.60
00:44:02.440 They only cared about him after because of his transgender identity.
00:44:07.240 Otherwise, if he was detransitioned, if the target was somebody who they disagreed with, 0.92
00:44:11.700 they would have celebrated his death.
00:44:13.380 And they wouldn't continue even thinking.
00:44:16.080 They wouldn't even think about continuing the violence in the face of an already violent and horrific act.
00:44:23.900 Yeah, exactly. And so what they'll do is they'll tie that back in and they'll bring it up over and over and over.
00:44:31.980 And this kind of reminds me of, you know, when, you know, the Stop Asian Hate campaign started to get going that, you know, that people are saying, oh, that is sort of in the wake of 2020.
00:44:43.760 And they were saying, oh, well, there's all these random attacks of violence on Asians.
00:44:47.620 And then we said, hey, we're not against violence or excuse me, we're not for violence for anyone.
00:44:53.100 Of course, we're totally anti-violent in this movement.
00:44:55.820 As a matter of fact, that's one of the things that we are very consistent on.
00:44:59.840 We are extremely anti-murder.
00:45:02.160 And and then when people started pulling apart the statistics of these inner cities and who it was that was attacking Asians and Chinese grandfathers in Chinatown and San Francisco and others,
00:45:13.080 The media suddenly didn't like didn't like it because it turns out it wasn't roving gangs of of, you know, turning point followers doing this.
00:45:22.420 And in fact, I remember on on September 10th, on the day that Charlie was murdered, that one of the things that was going around in media was Van Jones had said, you know, Charlie Kirk's rhetoric is is turning up the violence in the streets or something.
00:45:39.420 And it was this was in the wake of the arena's roots go murder on that train in Charlotte, North Carolina.
00:45:45.700 And I had actually tweeted and was chatting with Charlie that morning about, you know, you know, Van Jones.
00:45:51.740 It's, you know, when people are going around, you know, being worried on the street, they're not looking over their shoulder for Charlie Kirk's on the train.
00:45:58.860 OK, that's not that's not where the violence is coming from.
00:46:02.060 And it never has been. Yet the media will push this.
00:46:05.240 And to your point, the trans community will push this as well. 0.56
00:46:08.740 And it's a complete lie that they use to try to cover up what's actually going on. 0.95
00:46:15.880 Right. These are severely intellectually dishonest people. And it's so frustrating because it's not like these people who we are who are saying things like this about us are stupid by any means. 0.75
00:46:28.480 they are perfectly capable, oftentimes very smart, but this progressive ideology is so strong that 0.94
00:46:36.060 they do not want to face the truth if it conflicts with that. They would rather assign blame to
00:46:43.620 people who are in political opposition to us, like us, who have nothing to do with these crimes and
00:46:47.800 in fact are trying to institute these policies and these solutions to these crimes, to these
00:46:53.360 different issues that are happening, than to face what is actually causing it.
00:46:58.480 Chloe Cole, thank you so much for always coming on here and shining a light on some of the darkest corners of our society.
00:47:05.900 And you do it with such poise.
00:47:08.340 You do it with such a plum.
00:47:09.720 You talk about some of the most horrific things, and you always have a smile on your face.
00:47:13.680 So thank you for that as well.
00:47:14.860 Where can people go to follow you and keep track of everything you have going on?
00:47:18.900 I have a website at ChloeColeOfficial.com, and all my socials are linked there.
00:47:24.200 Thank you so much for having me on again.
00:47:26.720 All right. 0.86
00:47:27.040 Make sure to check her out, folks. 0.98
00:47:28.200 It's Chloe Cole. 1.00
00:47:29.360 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.