Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - War for Heaven： The King vs the Damned

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:40.100 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:47.260 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:50.360 Christ is king.

00:00:51.980 Making a good profit?

00:00:54.240 Fair.

00:01:00.000 Look!

00:01:08.980 There's something out there!

00:01:15.220 Don't be afraid.

00:01:16.780 This was a miracle to some, but a threat to others.

00:01:21.440 Trust in God.

00:01:25.540 Trust in me also.

00:01:27.100 You know the way.

00:01:32.760 Forgive them, Father.

00:01:36.140 They don't know what they do.

00:01:57.100 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's special edition of Human Events Daily.

00:02:10.620 Today is April 18th, 2025.

00:02:13.740 Anno Domine.

00:02:15.200 It is Good Friday.

00:02:16.660 The most solemn day of the year.

00:02:20.140 And it is the day that brings us towards Easter.

00:02:23.660 And this Easter special today is going to be called War for Heaven.

00:02:29.260 The King versus the Damned. 0.53

00:02:32.200 You see, Christ's resurrection on Easter is not just a celebration.

00:02:38.020 It's about picking a side in the battle for the soul of the world.

00:02:42.300 Think about it.

00:02:43.320 2,000 years ago, a king walked among us.

00:02:46.820 Not a politician.

00:02:48.180 Not a warlord.

00:02:49.520 But the Son of God.

00:02:51.080 He didn't come with a sword or a manifesto.

00:02:54.100 He came with the truth.

00:02:56.080 The raw, unfiltered, eternal, divine truth.

00:02:59.680 And what did the world do?

00:03:00.860 The elites.

00:03:01.900 The bureaucrats.

00:03:02.980 The mob of his time. 0.59

00:03:04.520 They spit in his face.

00:03:06.400 They crowned him with thorns and they nailed him to a cross.

00:03:09.200 And they thought they'd won.

00:03:10.540 Satan thought that he'd won.

00:03:12.920 They thought they'd buried the light.

00:03:14.640 But Christ himself, on the third day, rolled back the stone of the tomb.

00:03:20.860 The king rose and the gates of hell trembled after Christ stormed through them on Holy Saturday.

00:03:28.040 That's the story they don't want you to hear.

00:03:30.140 I'm not talking about pastel eggs or bunny rabbits.

00:03:32.740 That's the watered-down version they feed you to keep you docile.

00:03:35.780 The real Easter is a rebellion.

00:03:38.840 The ultimate red pill.

00:03:40.360 It's Christ kicking over the tables of the money changers.

00:03:43.780 Staring down the Pharisees. 0.65

00:03:45.420 Breaking the chains of death himself.

00:03:47.940 And we're going to talk about Holy Saturday.

00:03:49.620 Because not a lot of people talk about the harrowing of hell.

00:03:53.900 This is a reminder that no empire, no ideology, no lie, no demon,

00:03:59.740 not even Satan himself, can stand against the king of kings.

00:04:05.600 But look around. 0.99

00:04:06.880 The damned, they're restless. 0.99

00:04:08.960 And they're not hiding anymore. 1.00

00:04:10.700 They're in the streets.

00:04:11.940 They're in the boardrooms.

00:04:13.060 They're in the algorithms.

00:04:14.540 They're the ones telling you that the truth is relative.

00:04:17.120 That good is evil.

00:04:18.340 The cross is just a symbol.

00:04:20.520 Yet they're building their own kingdom.

00:04:22.260 A godless, soulless machine where you're nothing but a cog.

00:04:26.040 They want you to kneel as well.

00:04:27.260 But not to the savior, to their dogma.

00:04:30.520 Cancel culture.

00:04:31.680 Woke ideology.

00:04:32.520 This isn't new stuff.

00:04:34.060 This is the same old serpent whispering,

00:04:38.180 Did God really say that?

00:04:40.840 No.

00:04:41.980 No, this is a spiritual war.

00:04:44.820 Not just for heaven, but for earth.

00:04:47.000 For your family, for your freedoms, for your soul. 0.98

00:04:50.300 And the damned think that they've got the upper hand. 0.99

00:04:52.260 They've got the megaphones, the platforms, the power. 0.99

00:04:54.500 But they forgot one thing.

00:04:55.500 The king already won.

00:04:58.540 Easter isn't just a memory.

00:05:00.680 It's a promise.

00:05:02.240 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness cannot overcome it.

00:05:07.720 So today we're going to ask, whose side are you on?

00:05:12.220 The king's or the damned? 0.85

00:05:14.760 You can't sit this one out.

00:05:16.880 Neutrality is surrender.

00:05:19.060 The war is raging, and it's not just spiritual.

00:05:21.260 It's cultural.

00:05:21.820 Yes, it is political, but it's personal.

00:05:23.280 They call you names, they'll try to silence you, they'll try to mock your faith.

00:05:27.880 But let me tell you something.

00:05:29.880 Every time they stand, every time they push, you push back.

00:05:34.200 Every time they lie, you speak the truth.

00:05:37.040 Every time they try to bury the truth, you dig it up.

00:05:40.260 Because the king didn't stay in the grave, and neither will we.

00:05:44.520 This Easter, don't just celebrate.

00:05:47.940 Fight.

00:05:48.800 Fight for the cross.

00:05:50.260 For the empty tomb.

00:05:51.800 For the world he died to save.

00:05:55.060 The king is risen, and the damned are on notice. 0.91

00:05:59.960 Choose your side.

00:06:01.500 Arm yourself with the truth and the sword of St. Michael.

00:06:04.860 And let's take back the heavens.

00:06:07.220 Let's take back the earth. 0.93

00:06:08.460 One soul, one battle, one victory at a time.

00:06:13.200 For he is risen.

00:06:15.360 All right, now on this Easter special, I wanted to bring on writing co-pilot today is going to be Joshua Lysak,

00:06:41.240 the co-author of Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to Crush Them,

00:06:45.940 and Bulletproof, The Truth About the Assassination Attempts on President Trump.

00:06:51.120 Joshua, how are you?

00:06:51.920 Happy Easter, man.

00:06:53.700 Happy Easter to you, Jack.

00:06:55.120 Thanks for having me on.

00:06:56.900 So one interesting thing that I've noticed about Unhumans is that people are starting to refer to it more and more as a Christian book,

00:07:04.860 which is interesting because we didn't really write it to be a religious book in any way,

00:07:09.820 but it does kind of work out that so many of the victims of communism did tend to be Christians,

00:07:16.520 and that was something that came up in the research again and again, whether it be France, whether it be Russia, or whether it be Spain.

00:07:24.280 And, of course, what we see going on today, this is something where when we did the Tucker Carlson interview,

00:07:31.380 even he asked, he said, is there a demonic aspect to all of this?

00:07:35.080 And I said, well, you know, Tucker, we weren't writing a spiritual book, but personally, yes, that's exactly what I believe.

00:07:40.780 I do believe this is demonic influence that pushes people to these horrific evils in society.

00:07:48.320 And one of the things that I always like to talk about on the program and I wanted to get into in this special is people talk about Jesus spending the three days that he was dead.

00:08:02.160 And they say, well, he was in the tomb, and they say that he was there.

00:08:05.760 But the modern church has kind of gotten away from the teaching of the harrowing of hell.

00:08:12.020 And this is the idea of what happened on Holy Saturday.

00:08:16.340 What happened in between the tomb being shut and the stone being rolled forth.

00:08:23.220 And this is something Mel Gibson was talking about this on Rogan recently, how the passion of the Christ, too, is going to go into this ancient Christian,

00:08:32.480 which was a widespread belief at the time, of the harrowing of hell, something the early church talked about.

00:08:38.320 It's in the Apostles' Creed, which dates back to the fourth century.

00:08:41.560 It goes back even further.

00:08:42.960 St. Ignatius was talking about this in 100 AD.

00:08:45.140 Of course, it's referenced in the Bible itself, in Ephesians, and in Peter, again and again, about Christ leading a host out of captivity and Christ preaching to those in prison.

00:08:58.640 And yet it's interesting.

00:09:00.140 So, Joshua, we were chatting last night, and even you mentioned that this was something that, as you were growing up, that you'd never really heard about.

00:09:08.220 Yes, that's right.

00:09:09.200 I grew up in a number of evangelical Christian conservative communities.

00:09:12.760 And while they certainly have their upsides, like the memorization of the epistles, memorization of the Gospels, and being able to recite this or that Bible verse for everything,

00:09:24.400 one of the things that was lacking is an investigation of these most ancient teachings and stories from the Bible itself.

00:09:34.780 And, of course, one of those is the harrowing of hell.

00:09:37.180 Now, if we look at what the word harrowing means, it comes from an old English word that means to pillage or to plunder.

00:09:46.100 And we go, what?

00:09:47.540 Pillage or plunder?

00:09:49.360 And then if we look at what we consider to be non-Christian, just think about that for a second.

00:09:55.140 The most ancient Catholic teachings we considered to be non-Christian.

00:10:00.920 These are the spiritual grandchildren of the apostles, and we totally and completely ignored them because they had the word saint in front of their name.

00:10:11.480 This is, I think, a bizarre experience that probably tens of millions of people in America can relate to.

00:10:17.480 But when we go back and look at these traditions, we see that the story is that on Holy Saturday, while Jesus was dead, he visited the underworld in Greek, Hades, in Hebrew, Sheol.

00:10:32.540 And that is where the righteous and the unrighteous were together in the underworld.

00:10:38.280 And he pillaged and plundered this level of hell, meaning he preached the gospel, which is in 1 Peter, by the way. 0.93

00:10:47.820 He preached the gospel, declared his victory over Satan, over evil, over death itself.

00:10:56.080 And he brought the righteous with him.

00:10:59.460 Now, that, of course, is what the plundering is.

00:11:01.620 It is a removal of the righteous souls during this judgment period.

00:11:05.720 And the story goes, if we look at the oldest sources of this story, the first two souls he liberated were Adam and Eve.

00:11:14.940 That's right.

00:11:16.760 By the way, you'll find that motif particularly common in the Eastern Church.

00:11:22.700 So people know my wife, Tanya Tay, is Orthodox.

00:11:26.120 And funny enough, Orthodox Easter and Western Easter are actually on the same time frame for once.

00:11:35.460 It actually lines up this year.

00:11:37.020 So I think it's incredible where, you know, where I always joke that within our marriage, we're mending the schism.

00:11:42.280 And this year, of course, the Easter and Pascha have aligned.

00:11:46.260 And I think this is absolutely perfect.

00:11:47.880 And I've also called, by the way, on all the ortho bros to join in.

00:11:52.760 We're doing a three-day fast.

00:11:54.740 So I'm on, like, day two of the three-day fast.

00:11:57.900 I mean, two hours.

00:11:59.100 Just when, as Jesus was in the tomb for three days, we are fasting for three days from Holy Thursday until, of course, our Easter meal.

00:12:08.180 But, you know, it really is something—and people go—I'll go to Ephesians for people who are saying, what is this?

00:12:13.860 I didn't hear about this.

00:12:16.060 Oh, and by the way, just to—you know, when you go to the Orthodox churches, you'll see the icons of Christ breaking the gates of hell and then bringing Adam and Eve out of their tombs.

00:12:27.460 And then, you know, sometimes you'll also see a procession up into heaven.

00:12:30.840 You see this in a lot of Byzantine artwork.

00:12:34.380 You'll see it in Eastern churches.

00:12:35.620 You walk into any Orthodox church, you'll probably find one anywhere in the United States or certainly in the cathedrals.

00:12:42.480 And so, you know, to the Western Christian audience, it's like, wait, what is that one?

00:12:47.040 I don't recognize that one.

00:12:48.540 Well, here it is in Ephesians.

00:12:50.480 Ephesians chapter 4, verses 8 to 10.

00:12:53.200 When he ascended on high, he led a host of captives.

00:12:57.900 He who is descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens.

00:13:04.500 Matthew 12, 40.

00:13:06.660 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of earth.

00:13:15.180 And there's quotations from St. Augustine.

00:13:18.840 He descended into hell, broke the gates of darkness, brought forth the souls of the righteous who were held in the bonds of death.

00:13:24.520 St. Ignatius, how shall we be able to live apart from him, seeing that the prophets, being his disciples in the spirit, were expecting him as their teacher?

00:13:32.480 And for this, he whom they rightly awaited when he came, raised them from the dead.

00:13:38.920 So there's this—it also kind of serves a logical, I think, it serves a logical work as well, because what to make of all of the righteous?

00:13:50.280 Where are Moses, Elijah, the prophets, Isaiah—were they in hell because they hadn't gone to heaven yet?

00:13:58.400 Where were Adam and Eve this whole time?

00:14:00.280 Well, St. Thomas Aquinas tells us that this area of Sheol or Hades was referred to as limbo.

00:14:08.320 So we're breaking down the truth of Christ's descent into hell, the war for heaven, the king versus the damned, on this Easter special, Human Events Daily.

00:14:20.980 Jack Posobiec, Joshua Lysak, we'll be right back.

00:14:26.720 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back.

00:14:31.380 This is Human Events Daily, our Easter special.

00:14:34.360 We're discussing all things Easter, specifically, by the way, for Holy Week, Holy Saturday, which is a day that, look, everyone remembers Good Friday, everyone remembers Easter Sunday.

00:14:47.380 But somewhere along the way, it seems as though we've lost our connection to Holy Saturday and the importance that this plays in the Passion of the Christ.

00:14:58.140 Because people think that the Passion of the Christ ends with Christ's death.

00:15:01.900 If not so, there was actually a mission, a mission, believe it or not, to the gates of Hades itself, where Christ descended low to bring forward the souls that were left in limbo.

00:15:17.000 And also, for what's called the harrowing of hell, where he tormented the devil, tormented the demons.

00:15:24.480 And we're speaking with author Joshua Lysak.

00:15:28.200 Joshua, there's a line in Aquinas where he's in the Samatea Logica, where he's discussing this 800 years ago.

00:15:36.240 And he says that this would have been a cosmic event because Christ's light was able to, the light of Christ's soul itself, the king's presence, actually coming down into Hades, into the land of the dead, the underworld, would have illuminated every single dark corner all the way into the lowest depth of hell itself.

00:15:56.480 Because the demons, Satan himself, Lucifer, would, of course, all be required to obey direct commands from the king.

00:16:08.160 He is, of course, the king of the demons as well, despite their constant attempts to disobey and wage war on the throne.

00:16:15.460 They simply are required to.

00:16:17.980 So, for me, Holy Saturday, I think one of its most important keys here is that when we have Christ at our back, that he actually does have power over the demons and over even death itself.

00:16:33.260 And I feel like a lot of that gets lost when we don't talk about Holy Saturday.

00:16:39.400 Yes, that's right.

00:16:40.500 And it is a continual inversion of what we like to think of in terms of a hierarchy.

00:16:48.800 And this is one of the most profound aspects of the story of Jesus Christ as the king of kings, is that when we think of a king in a traditional sense, it's the top dog.

00:16:59.480 It's the chief.

00:17:00.840 It's the leader.

00:17:01.400 It's the boss of all the bosses.

00:17:03.380 It's the person who thumbs up or thumbs down like a Roman emperor can decide the fate and can take great pleasure from immense suffering.

00:17:12.160 This is sort of traditional king sort of a character, a humility-free zone.

00:17:17.980 But when we look at Jesus Christ, we have his willing execution like a common criminal, like a non-citizen. 1.00

00:17:30.560 We have the crown of thorns.

00:17:33.520 We have the inversion of what pillaging means to take and to steal.

00:17:41.300 It is rather a restoration or it's a returning.

00:17:46.220 So many of the events that happen during Holy Week and then leading up to the crucifixion and the resurrection, so on and so forth, is Jesus doing the opposite of what a king is supposed to do.

00:17:56.060 It is a king being, instead of the chief, it is Jesus Christ, the king of kings, being the chief servant to his followers and to his apostles.

00:18:05.640 And this is why I believe the image of the crucifix and the Catholic tradition and the icons of the Eastern Orthodox tradition are so essential.

00:18:13.620 And I grieve for all of the Protestants and all the evangelicals across this country and across the world who, in their worship and in their daily meditations and practices, simply have the image of, let's say, a plain and generic cross symbol versus that which is the crucifix,

00:18:31.700 which is the image of the king of kings, willingly humbling himself to the most radical extent that the highest could possibly do, which is becoming the lowest.

00:18:42.740 And then going even lower than death into the underworld itself as this king of these, king of the damned, in a way, and bringing those souls with him, pillaging out of that place those who are righteous, those who lived a righteous life.

00:19:02.140 And this, let's say, underworld theology answers so many questions and closes so many loops that children have.

00:19:09.940 Like, well, what about righteous people who died before, you know, like, Jesus came?

00:19:15.960 What about that?

00:19:16.640 Exactly. When I was a kid, I was talking about this with Producer Faz, you know, leading up to this.

00:19:21.940 He said, that's a question that I thought about when I was a kid.

00:19:24.700 It's a question that I personally thought about.

00:19:26.660 What happened to them? Where were they?

00:19:28.680 Were they just in some cosmic, you know, waiting room?

00:19:32.200 And kind of, yeah, actually.

00:19:33.900 So these are questions, by the way, that go back to the earliest days of the church.

00:19:40.540 And Aquinas was extrapolating on this 800 years, eight centuries ago, he wrote this up.

00:19:47.380 But because we've been so disconnected from Christian history, it's something that even good teachers today, you know, good Sunday school teachers,

00:19:56.540 they're not bringing this up, but this belief was understood and widespread in the early church.

00:20:02.660 And that's why I think it's so important to do what we can to bring back the early church history on this Holy Week.

00:20:11.140 We'll be right back.

00:20:11.780 Human Events Daily, Jack Posobiec and author Joshua Lysak.

00:20:14.480 All right, folks, we're back.

00:20:26.720 Jack Posobiec, Joshua Lysak, author.

00:20:29.960 We're talking about the war for heaven, the king versus the damned on this Easter special of human events daily.

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00:21:42.280 We're on with Joshua Lysak.

00:21:43.800 We are talking about this war for heaven, this idea that we are locked in,

00:21:48.300 and as C.S. Lewis talks about the spiritual war in the screw tape letters, it's demons, temptations, sin,

00:21:55.320 and we see so much of it lately when we see rank criminality defended at the highest levels,

00:22:03.240 CNN running puff pieces on Luigi Maggioni and an accused assassin on video,

00:22:10.660 Carmelo Anthony and the response to that, the stabbing of a young boy at a track meet,

00:22:16.500 illegal aliens and criminals, MS-13 members, are suddenly treated as if they're, you know,

00:22:23.700 they're kissed by an angel and we're supposed to go and help them as opposed to the victims of these gangs

00:22:30.800 who don't get any mention whatsoever.

00:22:34.480 So I wanted to bring Joshua Lysak back because, Joshua, we mentioned before when we wrote the book

00:22:39.140 Unhumans and we did our exhaustive examination of communism, we really found that when communists

00:22:46.240 take power, they tend to target one group above all others and one group first.

00:22:52.940 Can you tell us who that group is and maybe your analysis on why?

00:22:58.780 Yes, Jack.

00:22:59.760 And that group that the Unhumans always target first and foremost is Christians. 1.00

00:23:05.040 Christians in Spain, China, Russia, everywhere that the left, the far left particularly,

00:23:11.980 takes power or infiltrates and then takes over, that's who they target first.

00:23:17.580 And one of the reasons that we believe why, of course, is because of the anti-Christian influence. 0.65

00:23:25.140 What we discussed with Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlisle, and others is, of course, the demonic influence,

00:23:31.040 the hate of perfect love and perfect love casts out what the Bible says, casts out fear.

00:23:39.820 And what we observe from the far left, the radical left, is using fear as a weapon.

00:23:49.380 And so one of the reasons why literal murderers, domestic violence committers,

00:23:55.300 those who enjoy causing suffering, those are the heroes of the far left.

00:24:02.720 And now it's even the mainstream left at this point.

00:24:06.240 Luigi Mangione has received something like 60,000 love letters and fan mail and whatnot.

00:24:13.480 And when we observe why this is the case, the enemy, as Jesus said, comes only to steal,

00:24:20.940 kill, kill, and destroy. And we use that exact line in Unhumans to describe the agenda of the radical

00:24:29.100 left. And what we observe, of course, is that the left as a group allows their radical far left fringe

00:24:36.540 to set the agenda. On the right, we cast out the fringe element, but on the left, they take their

00:24:42.880 fringe and grant them absolute power to engage in whatever they want to engage in.

00:24:49.720 And so those who terrorize, those who cause fear, those who keep kids from being able to go

00:24:55.800 safely out riding their bikes, those who keep moms of young children from wanting to go out to the 0.99

00:25:01.200 local playground for fear that they're going to find a Camaro Anthony with a knife lurking about,

00:25:06.960 Luigi Mangione prowling about for their husband, who's a successful business owner, entrepreneur,

00:25:13.080 or CEO. They thrive on fear. It is the exact opposite of love.

00:25:18.880 And we point this out in Unhumans that if they can cause us to feel fear, then what happens

00:25:25.460 afterwards is they win. And of course, we saw this during the COVID-19 pandemic is the use of

00:25:30.680 fear as a weapon to squash dissent and to keep hidden minority reports. And this is how free speech,

00:25:39.640 freedom of religion, freedom of association, they die because, well, I don't want to speak up. Look at

00:25:44.280 what they're doing to people like me. I better just keep my mouth shut, keep my head down.

00:25:48.960 And this is, of course, as Alexander Solzhenitsyn writing about the Bolshevik revolution of October

00:25:54.000 1917, he pointed out that this is how the secret police going door to door were able to keep an

00:26:01.340 entire population of that time, the Russian empire, but Moscow and other places specifically,

00:26:07.580 how they were able to keep a mass population effectively in a giant open air prison with just

00:26:15.820 a few guards, the radical Bolshevik troublemakers who were going door to door, like I said, this

00:26:20.720 secret police is because the people were afraid that they would hear a knock on their door.

00:26:25.600 And, and of course, this is a system that we refer to as anarcho tyranny. And it almost sounds like a

00:26:34.700 misnomer. How could something be anarchism and tyranny at the same time? Well, the anarchism is the fear

00:26:40.700 being turned up. That's the violent criminals being let out of jail. And people will say, Jack,

00:26:46.340 why do you and Joshua talk about these, you know, hundred year old revolutions and 200 years old,

00:26:52.200 you know, French revolution and stuff even before that. And I say, because it's exactly what we see

00:26:57.720 going on today, every single day, when you see, you know, just this week, right? Democrat politicians

00:27:05.520 flew all the way to El Salvador to demand the release of an MS-13 international narco terror gang member,

00:27:15.380 and yet will not spend one minute discussing the actual victims of that gang. And it's, it's very

00:27:23.120 clear. They, they flip this over. The anarchy is the point. The fear is the point. They will be let

00:27:30.080 out into the populace. Why? To keep you docile. And they will turn around, by the way, and say,

00:27:36.100 if you have a problem with it, you're a racist, or you're a bigot, or you're hateful. Meanwhile, 0.98

00:27:40.880 they're able to use that to do what? To install their tyranny. And we saw this, of course,

00:27:46.520 with COVID. Remember, if you went outside your house, oh, you were, you're going to kill grandma, 0.92

00:27:51.140 you're going to kill everyone at the school, you're going to kill nurses, you're going to kill 1.00

00:27:54.380 doctors. If you, if you go out of house, or if that, that mask comes, comes down below your nose 1.00

00:27:59.500 while you're eating on an airplane, oh, you're going to kill everyone on this plane. If you do that, 0.99

00:28:03.480 we all remember what it was like. It was done. They use fear to install tyranny. One other piece,

00:28:09.540 by the way, that I would just add to your fantastic description there was that they,

00:28:14.200 they actually turn the populace against one another. Why? Because they offer you little

00:28:20.140 bits of power. They offer you little bits of tyranny that you can use yourself. Well,

00:28:25.280 let us know. Let us know if you hear anything. Let us know what's going on around the village.

00:28:31.320 Let us know who's talking out of turn, who's saying things that shouldn't be done. And we all

00:28:36.800 remember this during COVID. It's a perfect example. Let us know who's not wearing their mask. Let us

00:28:42.160 know who's not being socially distant. And you saw how it activated members in our own society,

00:28:49.120 right? America, we're so advanced and we're so progressive and we're so developed and we,

00:28:53.540 and we all did it too. Why? Because human nature is immutable. And that is what you learn from reading

00:28:59.220 the Bible. It's certainly what I always reflected on reading the Bible. In addition to the theology,

00:29:03.580 I said, man, the same stuff that people were dealing with back then is the exact same way

00:29:08.060 that people are now. 2000 years later, it has not changed one iota. Human nature doesn't change.

00:29:14.200 Actually, Joshua, you have a, a great tweet about human nature. Do you not?

00:29:19.440 Yes, I do. One of them of course is bad reviews from bad people are good reviews. And this of course

00:29:26.880 is based on the scripture. My paraphrase of it is, woe to you if all men speak well of you.

00:29:33.580 And so if, if the secret police are gossiping and saying awful things about you, those are in fact,

00:29:39.520 good reviews. That is, that is what you ought to strive for and aim for. And this of course is

00:29:44.440 why we are proud, for example, that Unhumans has been totally and completely condemned by the literal

00:29:49.520 communist party USA. And, and well, yeah. And the tweet of yours I was thinking of as well was,

00:29:54.340 um, when you said that, uh, this is sort of the difference between conservatives and liberals

00:29:58.660 where conservatives will say, wow, human nature tends towards, uh, you know, a very, very Hobbesian

00:30:05.880 outlook. And I, I care, I'm trying to paraphrase it, but you know, human nature leads people to sin.

00:30:10.820 We should do something about this. And liberals say, people shouldn't sin. There shouldn't be sin.

00:30:16.380 As I know we agree, but you know, we, you know, we, we, we know that this will happen. So we should

00:30:20.800 probably set up our society in such a way to deal with that liberals. There shouldn't be sin. It's 0.65

00:30:27.440 just, it's just over and over because they believe in this sort of utopian version of, of society and

00:30:35.080 humanity, which is itself, by the way, a form of fear. It's a form of fear of acknowledging that there

00:30:42.540 is a flaw. There is a, and, and this, by the way, if you're a believer, you acknowledge this. We are all

00:30:47.680 sinners. We are all the sons of Adam and the daughters of Eve, as CS Lewis writes that, uh, we

00:30:54.880 are all imbued with that original sin. And this is man's fallen nature. And of course the overcoming

00:31:02.320 of sin is the entire point of the experiment therein. But of course, this is also what the demonic play

00:31:10.020 on. Yes, exactly. And if you talk to any, anyone that I like to refer to as NPR Americans, these are

00:31:17.620 people who consume the news sources, the official sources and believe it's real news. So like they

00:31:22.420 listen to NPR and then they read the New York times and they're informed about what's going on

00:31:27.200 in the world. Well, if you talk to them, you understand that they don't believe in good versus

00:31:31.820 evil, capital G, capital E. They believe everybody's basically good. Everyone's just trying really hard,

00:31:38.820 but there are these mean people who put up fences and create boundaries and make rules and laws. 0.99

00:31:45.360 And they're straight white Christians and they're mean and they're racist and probably misogynistic 1.00

00:31:50.860 and bigoted as well. It's the oppressor versus oppressed frame we write about. And if you actually 1.00

00:31:55.940 talk to NPR Americans about MS-13 and the brutal torture that they commit upon others, particularly

00:32:01.680 upon women and children, they will look at you with glazed eyes. They'll give you the SSRIs, as I like 0.95

00:32:09.020 to say. And they will say, well, it's just so sad that the person joined that gang and felt like they

00:32:15.020 had to do that. They must be really oppressed by straight white Christians. They must be really 1.00

00:32:20.340 oppressed by the result of globalist, imperialist American policy under Republican presidents.

00:32:26.160 It's just not fair. So we need to let them into our country. We need to give them citizenship, 1.00

00:32:31.600 voting rights and health care, a car and a house to make it fair.

00:32:35.140 And fairness, guess what? There's only one place where fairness exists, and that's at the gate

00:32:41.000 of heaven itself. We'll be right back. Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lysak, the author,

00:32:47.280 discussing the war for heaven on Human Events Daily, our Easter special, Real America's Voice

00:32:53.240 in Salem Radio.

00:32:59.100 All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back. Easter special here on Human Events Daily, the war

00:33:09.060 for heaven, the king versus the damned. And by the way, you know, this is something I know

00:33:15.000 we've been talking about a lot of serious and dark topics here. And it's true. When we talk

00:33:19.780 about the demonic, when we talk about Satan, when we talk about evil, when we talk about

00:33:23.720 sin and temptation, these are serious subjects and they do get dark. But here's something

00:33:29.560 else that we can talk about is the light, because I love to see this. Did you know that Christianity

00:33:36.000 is becoming one of the most popular movements in America today? Polls are coming out now showing

00:33:42.900 that Gen Z are even more Christian than the millennials that preceded them. They are flooding 1.00

00:33:49.840 and flocking back to the church, and Christians are becoming finally more active. Christianity

00:33:57.320 is becoming more publicly celebrated. And what better way, by the way, to get into the Easter

00:34:04.480 season than the movie King of Kings that has just been released and is out now breaking box

00:34:10.800 office records at your local movie theater. And we've got a great deal for you from Angel

00:34:17.880 Studios, the producers of King of Kings, this great new, it's a children's movie, a retelling

00:34:23.160 of the passion of the Christ through the lens of Charles Dickens explaining it to his son.

00:34:28.720 So how do you get this offer? You go to angel.com and then join the Angel Guild. And guess what?

00:34:34.980 You can get two free tickets to King of Kings. Or while you're there, if you're interested,

00:34:42.380 you can also pay it forward and donate tickets to King of Kings for other people, if you so choose,

00:34:49.880 who want to go and see the film. This is great. I think it's fantastic. And I think it's absolutely

00:34:55.960 endemic of where our society is. Remember, Snow White went down in a massive global disaster.

00:35:03.300 This degradation of our society, this degradation of our cultural heritage. It was cultural vandalism,

00:35:10.380 what they did to Snow White. But what Angel Studios is doing with King of Kings is cultural

00:35:15.280 honor, honoring our cultural traditions and taking back that cultural hegemony from the left.

00:35:23.080 Joshua Lysak, talk to me a little bit about what it means. Is Christianity back?

00:35:28.860 Yes. Sin became so cringe. We had this army of millions of Baron Karens with gay pride pins on 1.00

00:35:40.560 and a thousand and one bumper stickers on their Subarus. And it's just not cool. And we look at 0.53

00:35:47.340 what they do. Well, they're atheists or they're agnostic, or they like to talk about being 0.88

00:35:52.140 ex-evangelicals. It's another thing that's being used. And it's not cool. What's cool

00:35:59.880 is what's beautiful. What's cool is traditional. What's cool to the young kings and queens these

00:36:07.160 days is what is based. That is that which is Lindy, meaning it is timeless. It is offensive

00:36:15.180 to these Karen characters, the millennials with the SSRIs popping out at you from the 1.00

00:36:21.100 Elon Musk is running a coup protests all over all over town. And we want the opposite of that.

00:36:28.940 And as a result, we are seeing the there was a statistic that was shared by the Barna Group when

00:36:35.120 I was younger. And it was a sort of a wake up call to the American church. And it was that 80% of 0.71

00:36:41.320 millennials were leaving their Christian faith. 80%. This is about 15 to almost 20 years ago that

00:36:48.720 this was a statistic. And what has happened now is there are so many more people becoming Christian

00:36:55.500 who are joining the church. So many more that now the numbers are break even. Christianity had been 0.97

00:37:05.460 shrinking, but now there's so many more people who are coming into the faith that it's now break

00:37:09.600 even. And of course, I expect to see more and more as Gen Z grows up and we have Gen Alpha, 0.96

00:37:14.940 my children's generation coming up. And when we see the type of Christianities that are attracting

00:37:22.300 attention, it's the Catholic. It is the Orthodox. When I go to the mass over at St. Bridget, it seems

00:37:30.080 like either everybody is a grandmother or a great grandparent age or they're under 30, under 35. When we

00:37:36.480 look at the women who are wearing the veils, it's women over 70 and women under 30, women under 25. 0.85

00:37:43.720 It's a sort of skipping the generation of millennials who are all caught up in the new 0.64

00:37:48.000 atheist movement that eventually kind of transformed into being an anti-Trump movement.

00:37:53.620 And we look at that and it's just not cool.

00:37:55.400 It's the TLM, what we call in the Catholic Church, the traditional Latin mass. And you go to one and

00:38:03.900 there's so few of them and people are spilling out of the pews. It's standing room only, babies crying

00:38:09.800 in the back. It's fantastic. Joshua, we're just out of time. Where can people go to follow you, brother?

00:38:13.700 I'm on X and YouTube elsewhere at Joshua Lysak and at LysakGhostWriting.com.

00:38:21.560 Go and follow Joshua Lysak. And to Joshua and everybody else out there, happy Easter. He is risen.

00:38:31.600 Hallelujah. He is risen. Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.

00:38:43.700 God of God.

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - April 18, 2025

War for Heaven： The King vs the Damned

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