Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 27, 2025


White House Deputy Communications Director Kaelan Dorr - Live From the White House


Episode Stats

Length

15 minutes

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199.97856

Word Count

3,109

Sentence Count

249

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

This is what happens when the Fourth Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posobiec sits down with Kaelin Dore, who is now the Deputy Communications Director at the White House.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:40.720 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:47.260 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:50.400 Christ is King.
00:00:51.980 All right, we're here with someone that no one at Real America's Voice has ever seen before.
00:00:56.580 You're not going to be familiar with this guy.
00:00:58.440 His name's Kaelin Dore.
00:00:59.640 Believe it or not.
00:01:00.400 I know this is the first time you've ever heard that name.
00:01:02.360 And he actually works in the White House now.
00:01:04.300 It's his first time that he's ever had a job in the United States.
00:01:09.100 We can't talk about certain things that are still classified to this day that he has to take the grave.
00:01:14.400 But Kaelin Dore, I know our former Real America's Voice host, is now here at the White House in the comms department.
00:01:23.420 Let me see here.
00:01:23.980 It's the deputy communications director and deputy assistant to the president of the United States.
00:01:29.900 Wow.
00:01:30.820 Kind of an upgrade.
00:01:33.320 It's definitely an upgrade in some senses, but in others, I mean, I don't get to talk to the Real America's Voice audience nearly as much.
00:01:38.960 We can fix that.
00:01:39.660 I seem to see you a lot more now, though, now that I'm here.
00:01:44.580 I don't know what that's all about.
00:01:46.360 It might be you're looking for a little access, but I think it's because we're transparent as heck over here.
00:01:51.080 We're trying to make sure everyone gets access.
00:01:53.040 So talk to me, right?
00:01:54.740 And that's really what this podcast row today, this whole sort of behind the scenes access granting is for, because obviously there's been a huge level of engagement with new media.
00:02:07.980 You yourself coming from new media, obviously understand how that works.
00:02:11.540 But I got to ask about X, man.
00:02:13.240 I got to ask about Twitter, the social side, the digital side, because what you guys are doing, and look, the Biden White House, the Kamala team, all them, they had, obviously, accounts and they even had a TikTok and all the rest of it.
00:02:28.140 It was the most cringe stuff I think I've ever seen in my life.
00:02:31.840 So how do you understand how to actually use new media as opposed to, like, forcing memes all the time?
00:02:39.060 I think a big part of it is that we all believe in what the president is doing, and we kind of have guardrails with which we operate.
00:02:47.740 We're able to move quickly and fast and effectively in a way that typical administrations are very sterile in that, like, a video's got to go through 30 different approval chains.
00:03:00.540 And the ethos of this is obviously America is back, and that's a very irreverent, unapologetic way of going about saying, you know, we're here.
00:03:11.240 You either run with it or you run from it, right?
00:03:13.480 And that's kind of how our ethos here in the digital shop has been.
00:03:17.340 We're pushing the limits of everything, but we're not hyper-fixated on trends, if that makes sense.
00:03:24.040 You know, brat summer was what it was for Kamala Harris, but it didn't communicate a message, right?
00:03:31.040 And I think we've done a really good job of not just doing engagement for engagement's sake, but making sure that you're learning something, you're taking something away.
00:03:38.660 Whether it's Tom Homan reciting a love poem to, you know, roses are red, violets are blue, come here illegally, we'll deport you.
00:03:46.380 I think it's pretty clear what takeaway you're getting from that kind of thing.
00:03:50.320 So we've found a way to marry it, but I think it starts with us all believing with what the president, you know, wants to espouse.
00:03:58.680 The gloves are off in all senses.
00:04:01.280 I mean, you see Stephen Chung's ex-feed is pretty aggressive and doing pushback.
00:04:06.240 We've got the rapid response accounts that are constantly doing stuff.
00:04:08.100 Is it true that Chung has started wearing the bowler hat, like, at all times?
00:04:12.140 Is that that rumor that's been going around?
00:04:13.980 So it's not at all times.
00:04:14.620 He puts it on when he's when he's up to no good.
00:04:17.140 So he'll put the he'll he'll transform into odd job when he's about to dunk on a reporter.
00:04:22.600 OK, so this week it's been on all this week.
00:04:24.380 So I haven't seen him not wear it.
00:04:25.920 I'm sure he showers with the thing on.
00:04:27.460 I think I think I think so as well.
00:04:29.000 No, I mean, it's the again.
00:04:30.800 But but this was a meme that had been taking off and then Chung sees it.
00:04:36.080 And then someone, I guess, wore a bowler hat for the St.
00:04:39.060 Patrick's Day that he puts it on and then it just becomes a meme in and of itself.
00:04:42.540 And so I do think that there's something in the philosophy of memes, if there is such
00:04:49.440 a thing where a meme is that is a distillation of truth and a distillation of reality.
00:04:56.540 And this is why left the left can't mean because they deny reality.
00:05:00.980 And so if you're not communicating a reality or a message or anything of substance, your
00:05:06.300 memes won't travel.
00:05:07.280 So this is why when you mentioned Kamala Harris and Brad Summer, nobody understood what that
00:05:11.280 meant.
00:05:11.740 Right.
00:05:12.140 Unless you're a specific fan of that album and that artist, it just wasn't conveying anything
00:05:18.540 to anyone.
00:05:19.960 Whereas these are styles and aesthetics that might be added to a central core message.
00:05:27.140 Yeah, and I think you touched on something that's really important and it's something
00:05:31.200 that we strive to fight for every day here.
00:05:34.000 And that is, you know, the other side of the aisle, their entire policy platform, but at
00:05:37.920 least the four last four years, arguably a lot longer, has been relying upon gaslighting
00:05:43.220 the American public into believing what's going on in front of you isn't real.
00:05:46.320 Right.
00:05:47.100 Gas prices are going up.
00:05:48.300 No, they're not.
00:05:49.220 You're shopping at the wrong gas stations.
00:05:51.220 You know, companies are price gouging like none of those things.
00:05:53.520 Well, the media didn't talk about egg prices for four years.
00:05:56.920 Right.
00:05:57.420 And then all of a sudden, January 20th, 2025, huge issue, huge issue, huge issue.
00:06:01.940 Why has it gone down?
00:06:02.740 He's been in office three hours.
00:06:04.400 And then when it did go down, they just stopped talking about it, moved to something else.
00:06:08.040 I've actually been going back and forth with the, you know, the gas buddy guy.
00:06:11.520 Have you seen the gas buddy guy?
00:06:12.520 Oh, yeah.
00:06:12.540 It was like the talk show.
00:06:13.520 Yeah.
00:06:13.620 So I've been going back and forth with him because he had this huge thing about how the
00:06:17.620 tariffs are going to cause gas prices to shoot through the roof.
00:06:21.260 And actually, gas prices have plummeted.
00:06:23.960 So every time there's a headline like that, I always tag him and put a screenshot of his
00:06:28.220 tweet up.
00:06:29.320 I love that.
00:06:30.080 And he gets so mad at me.
00:06:31.340 He's like, well, the tariffs were shifted.
00:06:33.460 Something was left up.
00:06:34.500 Hey, man.
00:06:35.560 Hey.
00:06:36.120 No.
00:06:36.440 And you know what?
00:06:37.120 Just speaking on this, there's a three word phrase that I want everyone to repeat.
00:06:42.600 And that is let Trump cook.
00:06:45.520 And that's all that he's done.
00:06:47.160 He's not let us down once.
00:06:48.540 He's thinking things through in a way that disrupts the status quo here in Washington.
00:06:54.020 And it's like for 24 hours, everyone's hair was on fire.
00:06:57.580 Oh, this is going to be the end of everything.
00:06:59.320 And we ended up getting everything we needed.
00:07:01.300 We secured our border even further.
00:07:03.720 We're stopping fentanyl.
00:07:05.440 I mean, it's absurd to me.
00:07:07.120 How many times you've got to do the same song and dance over and over again?
00:07:10.400 You're referring to someone that or a group of people that I lovingly like to call the black pillars on online.
00:07:17.460 And the black pillars have to go.
00:07:18.660 So folks who don't know, because we're deep in the meme talk here, the black pill.
00:07:23.720 So to be white pill means you're hopeful, you're optimistic.
00:07:26.400 So I'm white pilled on Trump.
00:07:27.980 I'm white pilled.
00:07:29.260 I believe that this is a positive movement for our country.
00:07:34.000 I believe the Make America Great Again movement is positive.
00:07:37.040 Does that mean that every single day is going to be like this incredible?
00:07:41.400 No, it's reality.
00:07:42.740 It's real life.
00:07:43.300 But the people who embrace despair, it's like they want to see him fail because either they back the wrong horse in the primary or they don't like that he doesn't support a certain issue that's their pet issue or something like that.
00:08:00.540 And so they're looking for ways to get at him and to snipe at him.
00:08:05.120 Whereas you look at the overall trajectory of things.
00:08:07.160 Look where we were just a couple of weeks ago in this country versus where we are now.
00:08:12.040 And it's night and day from the previous administration.
00:08:14.900 So that's why I always kind of tell people it's like, guys, step back for a second.
00:08:19.160 Step back and understand that just because your specific thing isn't trending today doesn't mean that in a week from now, like, oh, my gosh, today we just rolled up MS-13 leaders and he just revoked.
00:08:32.140 Jack, we rolled out an election integrity this week.
00:08:35.840 The election integrity.
00:08:36.480 I mean, that's something we've been talking about doing for a long time.
00:08:38.720 Is that actually tied to federal funding in the states?
00:08:42.040 I've got to go back and take a look.
00:08:43.860 A lot of these EOs are stepping stones to even further big actions.
00:08:48.140 I love that.
00:08:48.840 I think that might be in the works because I love the idea of this is what they did with the.
00:08:52.740 Well, I think to me, the model is Maine and that the governor of Maine saying we're not going to abide by your trans men in women's rights.
00:09:04.480 And then it was fine.
00:09:05.740 You're going to lose all federal funding.
00:09:07.640 That's the model because you can get states to hop to very quickly when you pull all that funding.
00:09:13.040 And to put a finer point on some of the things you're talking about here, it's as you're thinking through and you're processing, like why they think this way.
00:09:19.680 Because I think it's important understanding where we go over the next four years.
00:09:22.580 Why do the opposite opponents of the president's agenda feel the way they do?
00:09:26.980 And it comes from like this deep rooted insecurity, right?
00:09:30.620 They have no idea what they're going to do once we figure out where all the fraud, waste and abuse is.
00:09:35.780 Right.
00:09:36.120 Right.
00:09:36.520 And once they can no longer run on, pretend to run on that as a platform, they don't know what they're going to do with that.
00:09:42.380 And it's again, it comes back to a lack of substance that I think is is riddled here in Washington, D.C.
00:09:48.180 It's horrible.
00:09:49.460 But because they don't tell you what the real substance is.
00:09:51.880 Right.
00:09:52.140 They don't tell you that it's a show game.
00:09:54.420 Hey, look over here.
00:09:55.040 Look over here.
00:09:55.440 The NGO system that we it's amazing.
00:09:58.160 They call it a non-governmental organization, and yet all the funds come from government.
00:10:02.320 Right.
00:10:02.680 And so you have a situation where, OK, here's so and so who works for the department of whatever, and their wife runs the NGO and the NGO gets funding from the same department and they live in the same house.
00:10:15.420 So it's OK.
00:10:16.020 My wife, it's it's just corruption.
00:10:18.480 And in any other country, if this was Russia, we'd say that's just corruption.
00:10:22.160 That's an oligarch paying off his family.
00:10:24.300 China, we would say the same thing.
00:10:25.780 The highest levels of the Chinese Communist Party and Zhongnan high behind closed doors.
00:10:29.660 But here in America.
00:10:30.740 Oh, no, it's it's just that's just just the system.
00:10:33.280 Well, that's just how things are.
00:10:34.680 What I love about it, to take it back even further, is that it's now cool to like cut funding.
00:10:40.580 Yeah.
00:10:40.760 It's like cool to find like fraud, waste and abuse.
00:10:43.320 And I think that's ultimately going to be one of the biggest takeaways of our first 100 days, at least, is that we've just completely and totally changed the culture.
00:10:51.580 Everyone, the entire cabinet goes home.
00:10:53.860 They're filming these selfie videos all day that are like, hey, just got another 10 million dollars worth of, you know, transgender surgeries for no reason.
00:11:01.640 We've been funding and you believe this is Becca stay.
00:11:03.980 Yeah.
00:11:04.220 Like it never makes any sense.
00:11:06.020 And I think that's really important.
00:11:07.580 Like we're culturally we're reaching a turning point, for lack of a better phrase.
00:11:12.200 And I think going forward and we love you, Charlie, but we're going to see things totally differently going forward.
00:11:20.400 So, you know, these midterms are going to be really interesting because it's now in vogue to be conservative for maybe the first time that I can remember.
00:11:29.540 It's at least in vogue to be a Trump supporter.
00:11:31.380 Right.
00:11:32.420 I'm curious to hear what you think about that.
00:11:34.740 Well, this is something that we identified.
00:11:36.380 I think those of us who actually understood what was going on in 2024 during the election, we referred to these, just the whole special item this earlier in the week.
00:11:43.340 And we referred to these as sort of like your people talk about low prop voters.
00:11:46.820 Yeah.
00:11:47.040 But we refer to these as no prop voters.
00:11:49.180 Just the person who's totally not plugged into the political process.
00:11:53.020 They're not watching human events daily.
00:11:54.720 They're not watching real American stories.
00:11:56.560 They're missing out.
00:11:57.160 Yeah, totally missing out.
00:11:57.940 But you know what I mean?
00:11:58.740 We all know we've got friends like this and they're in, they're in the, you know, they listen to podcasts, but they listen to, you know, MMA podcasts, listen to sports.
00:12:06.160 They're in the sports betting.
00:12:07.520 They do FanDuel.
00:12:09.800 You know, they just have other interests.
00:12:11.860 And America's an interesting place and there's lots of interesting things.
00:12:14.480 And so what Trump was able to do by reaching out to new media and specifically reaching out to through the sports world and through other sort of male adjacent, but it's with a lot of female overlap as well.
00:12:26.600 Well, they have no message for those people either.
00:12:28.160 He was able to reach out and say, hey, I can represent you and I can bring you on board in politics.
00:12:35.160 And this is something that we've seen.
00:12:37.440 You mentioned the midterms.
00:12:38.720 It's going to be interesting to see if the Republican Party can bring those people out to vote when Trump isn't on the ballot.
00:12:47.740 But at the same time, you have to find ways to reach out to those people because Trump's brand right now is more popular than it's ever been.
00:12:56.300 Right.
00:12:56.440 And it's absolutely ever been.
00:12:57.820 And so this coalition is real.
00:13:00.020 The coalition exists.
00:13:01.440 The coalition is there.
00:13:02.760 But it's going to take work to keep it together.
00:13:05.180 Everybody thought Obama would keep his coalition together.
00:13:07.480 It completely fell apart when he left.
00:13:09.780 So that's going to be something that that's actually something I think about all the time is how do we keep this all going, keep the spirit going, keep the substance going.
00:13:18.360 Look, the president's going to be here for four years.
00:13:20.000 I think we all know Donald Trump's not going anywhere anytime soon.
00:13:23.360 And so he'll be around, he'll certainly be around, but it's this idea that the worm has termed that in the popular culture, you have to be, you know, open to this.
00:13:34.400 And you can't, I'm sorry, Disney wanted to have a Snow White who was running around and cursing out half the country.
00:13:40.080 And they made a huge bet.
00:13:42.560 Remember, and that film was filmed during the height of COVID and during the height of wokeness.
00:13:47.340 And so they made a huge bet that Kamala was going to win and they lost and they're finding that out at the ballot box.
00:13:53.480 And so I think that's how many, how many times have you watched a clip of her watching the her own movie in an empty theater?
00:13:59.560 So my, my video, my video of that is up to 9.5 million views.
00:14:03.680 And I think at least 4.7 million of those are me.
00:14:06.440 That's insane.
00:14:07.600 No, but you're right.
00:14:09.020 But that's, that's an example of where we are as a country now.
00:14:11.540 People don't want that.
00:14:12.800 No, they want pragmatism.
00:14:14.040 And I think that's why this is really, you know, taking hold.
00:14:17.860 Kaelin Doerr, if people want to follow the White House, if they want to keep in touch with everything that's actually coming out of here, where should they go?
00:14:25.000 We should follow the White House on all social platforms.
00:14:27.280 You should follow everyone here today at Podcast Row.
00:14:30.380 And we're going to keep doing this over and over and over.
00:14:32.640 This is something we're going to make a theme.
00:14:34.280 This is the single most transparent administration in U.S. history.
00:14:37.680 This is a huge part of it.
00:14:38.980 And making sure we get feedback from you guys is, you know, the most important thing.
00:14:42.680 All right, Kaelin Doerr, you guys know Real America's Voice.
00:14:45.580 Welcome home.
00:14:46.140 Come back anytime.
00:14:46.980 Thanks, brother.
00:14:47.440 Appreciate it.
00:14:49.140 Want to say thank you, of course, to the White House, to the press team for bringing us in today, for arranging these interviews, giving us a behind the scenes inside look to what's going on inside the White House.
00:15:00.800 This is a testament to how the Trump administration is now reaching out to new media, to new audiences.
00:15:07.880 And it's not about just us here about Human Events Daily, but everyone that we go out and touch as we share this information and tell the truth about what's going on behind the scenes of the White House here for you in the confines of the incredible People's House of the White House, really making it the People's House once more.
00:15:27.320 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
00:15:30.800 Thank you.
00:15:31.800 Thank you.