Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - Will Russia Agree To New Ukraine Peace Deal？

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.

00:00:39.300 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.

00:00:45.980 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.

00:00:49.040 Christ is king.

00:00:50.640 This morning, Arizona Senator Mark Kelly defiant after the Pentagon announced it's investigating him

00:00:56.080 for serious allegations of misconduct after he and five other Democratic lawmakers posted

00:01:01.840 a video urging U.S. service members not to follow illegal orders.

00:01:06.380 I was a captain in the United States Navy.

00:01:08.480 Former CIA officer.

00:01:09.840 Former Navy.

00:01:10.600 Kelly, who flew 39 combat missions in Iraq before going on to become an astronaut,

00:01:15.820 now threatened with a court-martial for saying this.

00:01:18.600 Our laws are clear.

00:01:20.220 You can refuse illegal orders.

00:01:22.640 You can refuse illegal orders.

00:01:24.740 You must refuse illegal orders.

00:01:27.160 No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

00:01:31.280 The president furious at the lawmakers, labeling them traitors and accusing them of, quote,

00:01:36.180 seditious behavior punishable by death.

00:01:39.120 The White House is supportive of the Department of War's investigation into Senator Mark Kelly.

00:01:43.360 And I think what Senator Mark Kelly was actually trying to do was intimidate the 1.3 million

00:01:49.540 active duty service members who are currently serving in our United States Armed Forces

00:01:54.240 with that video that he and his Democrat colleagues put out.

00:01:59.020 Senator Mark Kelly well knows the rules of the military and the respect that one must have

00:02:04.500 for the chain of command and that all lawful orders are presumed to be legal by our service members.

00:02:10.300 You can't have a functioning military if there is disorder and chaos within the ranks.

00:02:15.640 The Trump administration now vowing to appeal after a federal judge threw out the criminal case

00:02:21.600 against former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James.

00:02:26.560 In twin rulings, the judge found Prosecutor Lindsay Halligan was unlawfully appointed,

00:02:32.400 writing, quote,

00:02:33.040 All actions flowing from Ms. Halligan's defective appointment constitute unlawful exercise of

00:02:38.940 executive power and must be set aside.

00:02:43.380 Overnight, an intense barrage of Russian missiles and drones raining down on the Ukrainian capital

00:02:48.720 for more than six hours as negotiations intensify between the U.S., Russia and Ukraine.

00:02:55.780 Officials are saying Russia targeted power stations, two residential buildings, also hit.

00:03:01.040 I don't know if you heard that.

00:03:05.440 We're now getting intense Russian bombardments of the capital.

00:03:09.000 At least seven people killed, according to officials.

00:03:11.800 The mayor saying seven out of ten of the capital's districts now suffering power disruptions.

00:03:18.500 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.

00:03:21.800 We're here live, Phoenix, Arizona.

00:03:23.820 Today is November 25th, 2025.

00:03:27.420 Anno Domini.

00:03:28.840 I wanted to just take a quick moment before we get into today's top story.

00:03:33.280 I want to get into this Ukraine peace deal.

00:03:36.300 Will the Russians agree?

00:03:37.800 Will Ukraine agree?

00:03:38.920 But I'm out here in Phoenix, and this is Charlie's old studio that I'm sitting in right now.

00:03:47.120 This desk right here is Charlie's original desk where he launched the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:03:52.200 And I've been here many times.

00:03:55.520 He was gracious enough to allow me to use it to launch Human Events Daily.

00:04:01.020 And I've had my family here.

00:04:03.340 I've had, obviously, his family's been here.

00:04:06.300 He and I have been here for debates and laughter and so many stories and so many things.

00:04:13.520 And, yeah, it just really takes you back sometimes to realize that there's so much important in this world and there's so much going on that you do need to take a step back sometimes and realize that everything could change in the blink of an eye.

00:04:32.580 And don't ever forget that we live in a real world, an actual world.

00:04:41.820 And when we talk about cases of violence, that's why ending the Ukraine war is so important.

00:04:47.920 And that's why this peace deal is so important.

00:04:50.120 If President Trump and Secretary Driscoll, who's now been taking the lead on these negotiations, if they can get this done, it's so important because the Ukrainians and the Russians, they're going to their Christmas time as well.

00:05:01.140 And for every single soldier lost on the battlefield, that's a family that's got a son that doesn't come home.

00:05:08.920 That's a family that's got a dad that they're never going to see again.

00:05:12.560 It's like Charlie's kids are never going to see their dad again.

00:05:16.240 This is real stuff.

00:05:18.000 And for people who want to play games with acts of violence, with acts of war and say, oh, well, it's not really that big of a deal.

00:05:24.960 And we'll just keep fighting.

00:05:27.100 And Russia will keep, you know, having to throw more men into it.

00:05:30.980 It's it's disgusting, actually, when I see people who want to continue this thing.

00:05:36.960 And it's it's actually horrific because why don't you go over there?

00:05:41.740 And so many of them refuse to.

00:05:43.680 Why don't you go over there and actually meet with the people who've got to live with missiles flying over their heads every day?

00:05:48.320 We've got to dodge bullets just so they can get to the grocery store.

00:05:51.120 We've got to deal with drone warfare all over the place and who have to see their sons getting dragged to the front. 0.98

00:05:58.820 You want that?

00:06:01.600 Would you want that for your children?

00:06:03.240 Because that's the reality of warfare.

00:06:05.460 It's not some grandiose romantic scheme.

00:06:08.380 It's people dying in disgusting and disfiguring ways.

00:06:12.040 It's bodies that are blown apart so much that you can't actually put them back together to bring them home.

00:06:17.800 Closed caskets every time.

00:06:19.400 So that's what you want.

00:06:22.520 If you that's what you're supporting, if you support more war, that's what you're getting.

00:06:26.780 And that's what we see.

00:06:27.860 That's certainly what we see.

00:06:29.140 And I'm not going to sit here and play some games like, oh, who started?

00:06:31.880 Who started?

00:06:32.340 Look, look, look, there's a war and people are dying.

00:06:36.560 Now, this deal, the Russians said they like the 28 point plan, the 19 point plan that came out as well, that the Ukrainians said they agreed to.

00:06:44.020 I don't, I'm just going to say right now, I don't think the Russians are going to agree to this.

00:06:47.120 I said that on war room this morning, I'm going to continue.

00:06:49.700 I do not think the Russians will go on board with this because they do not want Ukraine in NATO at all.

00:06:55.900 Not even an option, not even a possibility.

00:06:58.560 And oh, they want full neutralization, neutral status for Ukraine.

00:07:03.120 And they view it as an existential threat to Russia.

00:07:05.200 Now, you can disagree and you can say, I don't think you're right all you want.

00:07:09.600 But you've got to convince them of that.

00:07:12.400 Ladies and gentlemen, the enemy always gets a vote.

00:07:18.020 Be right back, Human Events Daily.

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00:09:03.700 So, folks, we're digging in more on this Ukraine deal.

00:09:07.640 Will it last?

00:09:08.560 Will it be agreed to?

00:09:11.100 I wanted to bring Mike Benz on now from the Foundation for Freedom Online.

00:09:15.600 Benz, you've done the yeoman's work on explaining why Ukraine really became this vocal point so much,

00:09:22.340 going all the way back to President Trump's first impeachment, Hunter Biden, the Burisma dealings.

00:09:28.480 And I guess I wanted to say, Benz, is that if this thing is actually to wind down,

00:09:33.300 this is going to be a huge problem for a lot of people in power, both in the United States and across Europe, isn't it?

00:09:39.460 Yeah, it's a little complicated, though, because I do think that they do want the kinetic military activity that Russia is conducting to wind down,

00:09:51.940 in the sense that I think that some of the—well, not some, but almost all of the exuberance in the early initial 2022 forays,

00:10:03.460 forays when there was a thought that actually Russia had misstepped and that they were actually much weaker than NATO feared they might be,

00:10:13.520 and it looked like Ukraine was having some early victories.

00:10:16.300 There was, I think, a hope that Ukraine could militarily take this all the way and then end up with a regime change inside of Moscow,

00:10:26.640 and another Boris Yeltsin resurrected and put in Putin's place.

00:10:32.180 And instead, Ukraine is now reporting loss after loss.

00:10:37.100 Every update I seem to see on it seems to be another territory, another town, another very one-sided victory for Russia on the military battlefield.

00:10:47.460 And I do think that the goal of the peace—there's kind of a Trump goal and there's a blob goal for peace.

00:10:56.540 I think the Trump goal is to have a lasting peace.

00:11:00.440 I think the blob goal is to have a temporary peace and then to use that peace to build up a larger military presence

00:11:08.200 to eventually either win a paramilitary covert war or a full-on war the next time something like this can be provoked

00:11:17.580 through another 2014-style Maidan-style coup in another kind of Russian satellite area.

00:11:27.920 But basically, the whole play here is about Eurasia, and that's what this is all about.

00:11:33.100 It's about the $75 trillion worth of natural resources inside of Russia.

00:11:38.020 It's about control over the entire Eurasian landscape. 0.59

00:11:42.980 And ultimately, it'll be about regime change inside of Russia to make that happen,

00:11:47.780 as well as the pacification of all the Russian military support

00:11:50.880 for countering many NATO commercial and political activities in Africa, in Central Asia,

00:11:59.740 and to a lesser extent—well, I wouldn't even count really Latin America anymore at this point.

00:12:06.240 So we are hearing, by the way—I wanted to just throw out, just before we went live today,

00:12:12.480 and this is what I've been saying all morning,

00:12:14.200 the White House has come out and said,

00:12:16.740 well, additional discussions are now going to be required among Ukraine, the United States,

00:12:23.120 and Russia as the countries work to hammer out this deal.

00:12:27.280 So Dan Driscoll, of course, we know, is meeting with Russian officials in Abu Dhabi right now.

00:12:33.260 Lavrov—what did Lavrov say?

00:12:35.640 It could be rejected if the terms are fundamentally different

00:12:38.620 to the understanding that was reached during the Trump-Putin summit in Alaska a few months ago.

00:12:44.040 I actually had the opportunity to attend that summit.

00:12:47.740 It was really incredible to just be there and be in the room,

00:12:50.780 at least when the meeting got started with Lavrov, etc.

00:12:53.620 And what are we also hearing?

00:12:55.560 Zelensky wants to bring the Europeans in.

00:12:57.660 And I think that's kind of what went on here,

00:12:59.320 because, Ben, you know, I think there's a lot of story here that the, you know,

00:13:04.800 we're told that Vice President J.D. Vance came in

00:13:08.700 and he's the one that really got Driscoll into the new position

00:13:12.900 as this point man for these discussions, for these negotiations.

00:13:17.860 They knew that the previous discussions had really been at loggerheads.

00:13:21.080 So he said, you know, why not send this guy over

00:13:23.560 and let's just sit down with the Russians and hammer something out.

00:13:26.520 But it seems, though, that when the Ukrainians get involved,

00:13:28.980 they always want to bring in Europe.

00:13:31.580 And when they bring in Europe, that always seems to bring in the blob as well. 0.98

00:13:35.940 Oh, completely.

00:13:37.200 I mean, if you remember that's NATO, because that's where all of NATO is.

00:13:40.340 Exactly right.

00:13:41.300 Trump is not negotiating with Ukraine on this peace deal.

00:13:46.220 He's negotiating with Great Britain and the captured, you know,

00:13:51.840 parts of France and Germany,

00:13:54.300 who sort of work themselves into Zelensky's body to negotiate for him,

00:14:00.280 because that is who is picking up the slack.

00:14:04.400 I mean, Europe is now trying to create its own army.

00:14:07.580 We just had Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the head of NATO during Obama.

00:14:11.880 I'm going to read what he tweeted this morning.

00:14:16.280 I'm now calling for Europe to deploy up to 20,000 troops

00:14:19.880 behind Ukraine's front lines,

00:14:21.840 establish an air shield with 150 combat aircraft,

00:14:24.960 and unlock frozen Russian assets, meaning seize Russian assets,

00:14:30.100 which would cause an absolute firestorm in the international markets

00:14:34.180 and make it unlikely that any sane invest,

00:14:38.380 any sane sovereign country would ever invest in Europe again,

00:14:42.480 if not directly under the barrel of a gun.

00:14:45.380 But that is the animating spirit of France, Germany, the U.K.,

00:14:53.480 to some extent Norway, the Dutch.

00:14:57.600 It's the EU, and, you know, that's Soros Town.

00:15:01.440 This is where all this Reconstruction money is coming, 0.88

00:15:04.860 apart from the U.S., which, you know,

00:15:08.140 so you basically have Democrats,

00:15:11.340 the remaining never-Trump Republicans,

00:15:13.440 and Europe warging into Zelensky's body

00:15:17.060 to tell him what to do and not to do.

00:15:20.700 And, you know, the way they've changed the terms from this deal

00:15:23.640 are just hilarious.

00:15:25.280 I mean, they, right now Ukraine is just completely subsumed

00:15:28.660 in this multi-billion-dollar corruption scandal

00:15:32.240 where they're finding $100 million and, you know,

00:15:37.260 embezzled cash, $100 million in embezzled cash,

00:15:40.920 golden toilets,

00:15:42.740 the highest levels of the Ukrainian government,

00:15:47.600 you know, from the folks in their energy ministry

00:15:50.880 to, I mean, what appear to be the second and third

00:15:55.140 in command of Zelensky himself.

00:15:57.360 Meanwhile, Ukraine has still not held a vote

00:15:59.720 in over five years.

00:16:01.260 They've canceled elections indefinitely.

00:16:04.640 That remains.

00:16:06.140 Meanwhile, it just,

00:16:07.600 I think Libernet just posted a giant tapestry

00:16:12.520 of the German censorship industrial complex,

00:16:15.080 and I was, I found it humorous

00:16:17.600 that they, one of the 330 German government-funded

00:16:22.280 censorship organizations in the report

00:16:24.020 is an institution called Radar,

00:16:26.500 which is part of the USAID censorship network.

00:16:28.960 And Radar was taking German taxpayer dollars

00:16:33.480 to monitor social media discourse in Ukraine

00:16:36.620 to stop what it called false narratives

00:16:40.220 that delegitimized the Kiev government.

00:16:44.100 So all stops are being pulled to shore up

00:16:47.300 this kind of seemingly coke-addled, 0.93

00:16:51.940 dysfunctional, corrupt government 0.95

00:16:53.660 as its corpse is propped up and marionetted 0.98

00:16:57.340 by a bunch of EU blobsters and banksters.

00:17:00.660 And one of the big, one of the big pressure points

00:17:02.700 on this is something that you've been talking about

00:17:04.880 here for years, and this came out publicly,

00:17:07.020 and you don't hear any coverage of this,

00:17:09.040 really, in the West,

00:17:09.960 that Zelensky's justice minister

00:17:12.920 and the minister of energy,

00:17:14.880 minister of justice, minister of energy,

00:17:16.140 both resigned just days ago,

00:17:19.500 like two weeks ago in Kiev

00:17:21.420 on the backs of a $100 million kickback scheme

00:17:25.820 involving, you guessed it,

00:17:27.920 the state-owned energy company

00:17:30.320 and Energo Atom,

00:17:33.980 which is actually their nuclear company.

00:17:36.080 And the ringleader of the scheme

00:17:37.160 was, of course,

00:17:38.220 one of Zelensky's close business partners.

00:17:42.220 I mean, you just can't make it up, can you?

00:17:43.800 No, you certainly can't.

00:17:45.980 But what I thought was so interesting,

00:17:47.860 and I'm just trying to pull up

00:17:48.900 the exact language here,

00:17:51.160 but the part of the original Trump proposal,

00:17:56.160 I believe, to Ukraine

00:17:57.180 was that there would be a full audit.

00:18:01.620 Part of the conditions of the deal

00:18:03.480 would be a full audit of aid money to Ukraine.

00:18:07.440 And then as the scandal unfolded,

00:18:11.040 the language was changed

00:18:12.720 to instead offer an amnesty

00:18:15.280 that essentially all crimes committed

00:18:20.580 by the Kiev government,

00:18:22.060 if they agreed to this peace deal,

00:18:25.820 would be effectively absolved or pardoned

00:18:30.120 so that there would be no

00:18:31.500 Truth and Reconciliation Committee

00:18:33.180 or transitional justice in a post-Zelensky.

00:18:36.440 So they're trying to set the stage

00:18:39.000 for terms in which the Zelensky mafia

00:18:42.560 will feel inclined to,

00:18:46.980 as part of the peace terms,

00:18:51.320 you know, go back to being something

00:18:53.340 even nominally pretending to be a democracy,

00:18:55.800 i.e. some path to holding a vote

00:18:58.280 on an election again.

00:19:00.040 But everyone knows Zelensky would lose.

00:19:02.240 And undoubtedly the successor

00:19:06.920 Justice Department or Justice Ministry

00:19:09.160 would be saddled with all of these

00:19:13.840 indictments.

00:19:14.580 And they'd have to figure out

00:19:15.560 exactly what to do.

00:19:17.580 Right back, Jack Posobiec, Mike Benz.

00:19:19.100 All right, Jack Posobiec back live

00:19:40.960 with Mike Benz.

00:19:42.140 We're talking the latest

00:19:43.040 on this Ukraine potential peace deal.

00:19:46.840 We have also heard some Macron just came out.

00:19:49.100 We're confirming that now

00:19:50.380 and said after they just held a call

00:19:53.440 with the quote unquote

00:19:54.280 coalition of the willing.

00:19:55.760 Now you remember that was who came

00:19:57.300 to the White House to meet

00:19:58.260 with President Trump and Zelensky

00:20:00.080 the day after Zelensky or excuse me,

00:20:03.240 Trump and Putin met in Anchorage, Alaska.

00:20:06.880 Now they're saying now Macron is saying

00:20:09.100 that European led security guarantees

00:20:11.860 for Kiev could involve the United States.

00:20:15.860 So Benz, what we're looking at here is 0.95

00:20:19.280 this is pushing everything

00:20:20.640 into the reconstruction

00:20:22.540 and this new potential military situation.

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00:21:36.120 Mike Benz,

00:21:37.620 what's the latest that you're hearing?

00:21:38.620 Well, you know,

00:21:42.280 as we were just talking about,

00:21:44.540 found the Wall Street Journal reporting

00:21:47.140 that in the apparent move

00:21:50.040 to expose corruption,

00:21:51.620 the initial U.S. draft

00:21:53.240 called for an audit

00:21:54.060 of all international aid Ukraine had received.

00:21:56.960 The Wall Street Journal reports

00:21:58.020 the language was changed

00:21:59.200 to say all parties will receive

00:22:00.820 full amnesty

00:22:02.120 for their actions during the war.

00:22:03.680 So instead of agreeing

00:22:05.940 to have all the international aid

00:22:07.980 Ukraine has received

00:22:08.900 be audited,

00:22:11.440 instead the apparently

00:22:12.960 the provision was changed

00:22:14.660 to say no audit

00:22:17.080 and no matter what crimes

00:22:18.460 we committed

00:22:19.000 in embezzling funds,

00:22:21.460 we're not going to be

00:22:23.320 criminally liable anyway.

00:22:24.800 So that's fine.

00:22:25.680 So Ukraine changed

00:22:26.920 one of the 20 through 28 provisions

00:22:29.260 that was talking

00:22:31.580 for an international audit

00:22:33.160 of the of all the funds

00:22:34.480 that came in

00:22:35.220 that it's not going

00:22:36.540 to be an audit.

00:22:37.220 It's in fact going

00:22:38.120 to be an amnesty

00:22:40.300 for any which which,

00:22:42.820 you know,

00:22:43.160 and by the way,

00:22:43.660 amnesty is something

00:22:44.340 that you you receive

00:22:45.620 for crime.

00:22:46.760 It's not something

00:22:47.560 that you receive

00:22:48.200 for, you know,

00:22:49.520 benevolent acts

00:22:50.980 or acts of charity.

00:22:52.060 No, it's it's amnesty

00:22:53.060 is something or a pardon

00:22:54.000 is something you receive

00:22:54.740 for committing a crime.

00:22:57.080 Right.

00:22:57.340 Well, this is I mean,

00:22:58.640 this is just so thematic,

00:22:59.900 right?

00:23:00.260 I mean, this is like

00:23:01.860 remember when they tried

00:23:02.680 to sell the Ukraine aid

00:23:04.160 as being,

00:23:05.580 oh, it's we're no longer

00:23:07.340 just giving unconditional

00:23:08.740 no strings attached grants

00:23:10.940 to Ukraine.

00:23:11.740 We're going to make them loans. 0.80

00:23:14.160 It was an investment.

00:23:15.360 We were going to make money

00:23:16.120 off of it.

00:23:16.700 Forgivable at any time

00:23:17.560 and have no interest

00:23:18.820 and no maturity date

00:23:20.080 and are forgivable on demand.

00:23:22.080 Like it's it's.

00:23:24.100 Here's here's something

00:23:25.140 we should actually think

00:23:26.040 about is.

00:23:28.860 And just in a true sense

00:23:30.780 is the government

00:23:32.140 of Ukraine and the economy,

00:23:35.240 whatever economy

00:23:36.340 is left of Ukraine,

00:23:37.400 does it actually resemble

00:23:38.900 a real government

00:23:40.840 and a real country's

00:23:42.960 you know, administration?

00:23:45.400 Or does this this seems

00:23:46.680 to me like like they're

00:23:47.800 like one of these subcontractors

00:23:49.420 that USAID would be working

00:23:51.040 with and one of these

00:23:51.800 like shady groups.

00:23:52.880 They don't seem like

00:23:53.640 a real government at all.

00:23:55.100 Right.

00:23:55.660 And remember,

00:23:56.360 one of the leading figures

00:23:58.220 within Ukrainian state media

00:24:00.860 said after USAID shutdown

00:24:03.760 or the shutdown was initiated

00:24:06.380 that this would devastate

00:24:07.940 Ukraine's media

00:24:08.760 because over 90 percent

00:24:10.960 of Ukraine's media institutions

00:24:13.200 and outlets were funded

00:24:14.600 directly by USAID.

00:24:17.300 So 90 percent of Ukraine's media

00:24:19.480 was funded by USAID,

00:24:20.980 including the Kiev independent,

00:24:23.160 very independent.

00:24:25.100 But that what's what's

00:24:27.720 there's now this mad.

00:24:28.700 I mean, it's important

00:24:29.240 to remember the stakes.

00:24:30.520 Ukraine sits on 14 trillion dollars

00:24:32.540 worth of natural resources

00:24:33.880 between the the shale,

00:24:36.700 the petroleum,

00:24:38.280 the rare earth minerals.

00:24:40.500 And so there is what's

00:24:43.780 what's 300 billion dollars

00:24:45.480 in taxpayer money

00:24:46.440 for a 14 trillion dollar

00:24:48.040 potential reward.

00:24:49.500 That's kind of the thought process.

00:24:51.460 Of course,

00:24:51.980 we're not going to get

00:24:52.720 our 300 billion dollars back.

00:24:54.420 That is basically subsidized

00:24:56.780 subsidized the R&D capital

00:25:02.460 for you might say

00:25:04.280 for military industrial complex

00:25:06.820 contractors,

00:25:08.280 big mining companies,

00:25:10.560 big gas giants,

00:25:12.040 you know,

00:25:14.280 and big agriculture companies.

00:25:16.600 And that is that's what's happening.

00:25:18.900 Ukraine is being 0.94

00:25:19.980 is being put through shock therapy

00:25:21.680 while it is firing off 0.90

00:25:24.040 the machine guns like a madman.

00:25:25.920 It is convulsing 0.69

00:25:28.820 at the biological

00:25:30.360 and cellular level

00:25:31.880 as it is being sold off

00:25:34.380 nucleus by nucleus,

00:25:36.920 every cell to another

00:25:38.360 Wall Street and London trading firm.

00:25:41.440 This is what's been happening now.

00:25:43.820 And that's and that's,

00:25:44.860 by the way,

00:25:45.360 and just just our final minute,

00:25:46.600 that's that is why

00:25:48.020 there's so much language in here

00:25:49.400 about the reconstruction,

00:25:50.680 who's paying for it,

00:25:52.220 they're using these

00:25:52.880 frozen Russian assets,

00:25:54.280 but then also who benefits

00:25:56.420 from the reconstruction

00:25:57.580 as well, isn't it?

00:25:59.420 Yeah, well, it is.

00:26:00.340 And this is where I come back

00:26:01.540 to how this impacts things

00:26:03.160 at home.

00:26:04.000 We that the special envoy

00:26:05.940 for Ukraine reconstruction

00:26:07.240 under the Biden administration

00:26:09.420 was none other than

00:26:10.460 Penny Pritzker,

00:26:11.460 Penny Pritzker,

00:26:12.300 who was the sponsor

00:26:13.880 of Barack Obama's

00:26:15.400 Senate career

00:26:17.060 before he became president,

00:26:18.560 then became Barack Obama's

00:26:19.760 commerce secretary

00:26:20.980 and now manages

00:26:22.460 the entire Harvard endowment,

00:26:25.180 the $56 billion

00:26:26.120 Harvard endowment fund

00:26:27.880 while simultaneously

00:26:28.840 running Ukraine reconstruction.

00:26:32.340 Harvard very famously

00:26:34.140 invested in and pilfered

00:26:36.420 Russian state assets

00:26:38.240 when it was paid by USAID,

00:26:41.140 I think $350 million

00:26:42.220 it got from USAID,

00:26:44.460 the Harvard Institute

00:26:45.160 for International Development

00:26:46.100 under Jeffrey Sachs

00:26:47.120 and Larry Summers.

00:26:48.140 And then they did it again

00:26:49.520 in Ukraine in the 1990s,

00:26:51.120 and I'm sure they're doing it here,

00:26:53.020 which is why I have been calling

00:26:54.720 repeatedly for this administration

00:26:57.240 to condition all federal grants

00:27:00.720 to all universities

00:27:02.120 on total transparency

00:27:04.460 about the investment activities

00:27:07.140 of private endowments.

00:27:08.860 If you're going to qualify

00:27:09.880 for $1 of federal government grants,

00:27:12.180 we need to see every investment

00:27:14.560 that endowment is making

00:27:16.920 so we know whether or not

00:27:18.560 what people are being taught

00:27:19.840 at Harvard is actually...

00:27:21.180 So give them a follow, folks.

00:27:22.200 Mike Benz,

00:27:22.820 Mike Benz Cyber.

00:27:24.560 Take care, Mike.

00:27:25.380 Where is Jack?

00:27:27.460 Where is Jack?

00:27:28.660 Where is he?

00:27:31.160 Jack, I want to see you.

00:27:34.800 Great job, Jack.

00:27:36.240 Thank you.

00:27:36.980 What a job you do.

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00:27:40.640 the fake news and the bad,

00:27:42.120 but we have guys,

00:27:43.500 and these are the guys

00:27:44.520 who should be getting policies.

00:27:48.340 All right, Jack Posobiec,

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00:29:01.620 we got Will Chamberlain

00:29:02.980 coming up next.

00:29:03.880 Article 3 Project.

00:29:05.460 Will,

00:29:06.280 this story broke

00:29:08.140 right as the show

00:29:09.560 was going live yesterday

00:29:12.000 and I was thinking

00:29:14.060 we need a lawyer

00:29:14.680 when I had like two minutes

00:29:16.740 I was going to try

00:29:17.740 to book you

00:29:18.460 but you know

00:29:19.140 you're a little busy

00:29:19.860 for us yesterday

00:29:20.600 but apparently

00:29:21.160 you weren't too busy

00:29:21.940 to go on The War Room

00:29:22.920 with Steve Bannon

00:29:23.600 were you, Will?

00:29:25.400 No, I was very happy

00:29:26.460 to go on The War Room

00:29:27.180 with Steve Bannon

00:29:27.640 but I really should have

00:29:28.300 gone on with you

00:29:28.780 because Steve decided

00:29:29.920 to play 10 minutes

00:29:31.460 of MSNBC clips

00:29:32.780 which really was

00:29:33.800 just gratuitous

00:29:34.960 and unnecessary

00:29:35.540 for a first-time guest.

00:29:36.680 He tortures his audience

00:29:38.540 through this every day

00:29:39.980 and he says

00:29:40.520 I'm just trying

00:29:41.100 to toughen you up.

00:29:42.320 I'm just trying

00:29:42.820 to toughen you up.

00:29:43.580 You gotta get used to it.

00:29:44.680 You gotta get stronger.

00:29:46.420 So he's working

00:29:47.820 over his forces

00:29:48.700 but yes,

00:29:49.260 I've had to endure

00:29:50.140 those many, many times

00:29:51.520 and you had to endure

00:29:52.960 the Co-Pure commercial read

00:29:54.840 which really wasn't

00:29:55.600 really all that bad at all.

00:29:56.500 It's really nice

00:29:57.320 with Tanya Loves.

00:29:57.960 It's a lot nicer

00:29:58.420 than James Comey's visage.

00:30:00.100 Are you kidding?

00:30:00.700 I'd listen to 50-hour reads

00:30:02.020 before I listen to a minute of Comey.

00:30:04.220 So walk us through though

00:30:05.380 by the way

00:30:05.780 it makes a great Christmas gift.

00:30:07.720 Walk us through though

00:30:08.940 this whole contention

00:30:10.280 about

00:30:10.740 because it really seems to me

00:30:11.880 and I haven't gone through

00:30:12.940 obviously the law

00:30:13.980 like you have

00:30:14.720 the appointment

00:30:15.940 of Lindsay Halligan.

00:30:17.600 That seems to be

00:30:18.760 what

00:30:19.560 what this judge

00:30:21.020 in Virginia

00:30:21.700 is hanging

00:30:22.400 all of this on.

00:30:24.220 That's something

00:30:24.920 where

00:30:25.460 of course

00:30:25.920 I remember

00:30:26.440 a number of people

00:30:27.880 made this

00:30:28.400 similar argument

00:30:29.280 regarding Jack Smith

00:30:30.440 but that was because

00:30:31.520 he was a special counsel.

00:30:33.240 She's not a special counsel.

00:30:34.480 She's a U.S. attorney

00:30:35.460 which is a routine position.

00:30:37.160 So Will

00:30:37.680 the floor is yours.

00:30:39.540 Yeah

00:30:40.060 so you've

00:30:40.520 you've highlighted

00:30:41.020 an interesting distinction

00:30:42.220 which is

00:30:43.080 special counsels

00:30:44.560 also have to

00:30:45.360 are inferior officers

00:30:46.540 most likely

00:30:47.340 just like

00:30:48.020 U.S. attorneys

00:30:48.900 and for inferior officers

00:30:50.720 there's a number of ways

00:30:51.620 to confirm them

00:30:52.360 or appoint them.

00:30:53.660 You can

00:30:54.360 go through

00:30:55.540 the normal

00:30:56.040 presidential

00:30:56.620 advice and consent

00:30:57.800 process with the Senate

00:30:58.720 or

00:30:59.740 the Congress

00:31:01.120 can

00:31:01.400 by statute

00:31:02.560 create a method

00:31:03.820 for you

00:31:04.600 to be appointed

00:31:05.720 to a particular position

00:31:06.600 and that's what happens

00:31:07.500 with these interim U.S. attorneys.

00:31:09.920 There's a statute

00:31:11.000 I believe it's 28 U.S.C.

00:31:13.560 or it's either 18 or 28

00:31:14.680 I forget off the top of my head

00:31:15.920 456

00:31:16.980 that deals with

00:31:18.980 how these vacancies work

00:31:20.060 and so

00:31:20.440 it's a kind of

00:31:21.540 poorly worded

00:31:22.660 a little bit

00:31:23.380 ambiguous statute

00:31:24.540 honestly

00:31:25.000 but

00:31:25.360 the best reading of it

00:31:27.200 is that

00:31:28.180 it basically gives

00:31:29.320 the attorney general

00:31:30.180 the ability to appoint

00:31:31.540 interim U.S. attorneys

00:31:32.640 for 120 day periods

00:31:34.180 whenever there's a vacancy

00:31:35.700 and it also gives

00:31:37.400 concurrent authority

00:31:38.320 to the local district

00:31:40.000 court to do so

00:31:40.720 in the event

00:31:41.160 that the political branches

00:31:42.140 for whatever reason

00:31:43.340 can't get their act together

00:31:44.240 and make an appointment

00:31:44.980 but that

00:31:46.880 that authority

00:31:48.080 should be understood

00:31:49.380 as concurrent

00:31:50.240 it's not exclusive

00:31:51.620 and there's a couple

00:31:52.840 reasons why

00:31:53.400 I mean first off

00:31:54.040 the language of the statute

00:31:54.980 is pretty clear

00:31:56.340 by its terms

00:31:56.900 there's only one exception

00:31:57.880 to the attorney general's

00:31:58.980 authority

00:31:59.320 and that is

00:31:59.820 that they're not allowed

00:32:00.780 to appoint people

00:32:01.600 who have been

00:32:02.580 affirmatively rejected

00:32:03.640 by the Senate

00:32:04.180 and then the second reason

00:32:06.040 that's the appropriate reading

00:32:07.220 is because

00:32:07.720 there's a major

00:32:08.580 constitutional problem

00:32:09.740 with saying

00:32:10.280 that the only way

00:32:11.600 to appoint

00:32:13.540 an executive branch official

00:32:14.820 or the only people

00:32:15.720 that can appoint

00:32:16.300 an executive branch official

00:32:17.360 are district court judges

00:32:18.860 that gives

00:32:19.500 article three judges

00:32:20.700 the power

00:32:21.200 to appoint article two

00:32:22.700 officials

00:32:24.100 and not just any power

00:32:25.500 but the exclusive power

00:32:26.980 so that's

00:32:27.920 every time

00:32:28.700 we've been seeing

00:32:29.580 over the last year

00:32:30.300 where there have been

00:32:31.040 attempts to defend

00:32:32.220 independent agencies

00:32:33.040 from presidential

00:32:33.700 supervision

00:32:34.180 those attempts

00:32:34.680 have failed

00:32:35.240 and

00:32:36.340 Congress just can't

00:32:38.460 pass statutes

00:32:39.320 that vest

00:32:40.220 article two

00:32:40.960 appointment authority

00:32:41.840 exclusively

00:32:42.640 in entities

00:32:45.000 that aren't

00:32:45.400 the presidency

00:32:45.940 so when this

00:32:48.560 when this comes down

00:32:49.340 to it

00:32:49.580 there was an interim

00:32:50.500 there was an interim

00:32:51.720 vacancy

00:32:52.260 and they went

00:32:53.900 and appointed

00:32:54.480 Lindsay Halligan

00:32:55.280 was this done

00:32:56.220 so Will

00:32:57.000 in your reading

00:32:57.980 was this lawful

00:32:58.720 yeah in my reading

00:33:00.000 this was absolutely

00:33:00.740 lawful

00:33:01.160 and the government

00:33:02.680 put out

00:33:03.220 a very very good

00:33:03.960 brief on this subject

00:33:04.780 I thought that was

00:33:05.680 very very clear

00:33:06.400 in terms of explaining

00:33:07.220 what the language was

00:33:08.240 the alternative view

00:33:12.060 requires a very very

00:33:13.240 aggressive reading

00:33:14.160 of the statute

00:33:14.780 that effectively requires

00:33:15.860 reading exclusivity

00:33:17.360 exclusive words

00:33:18.600 like only

00:33:19.340 or you know

00:33:20.920 the only way

00:33:21.640 to apply

00:33:22.020 those words

00:33:22.720 just don't appear

00:33:23.200 in the statute

00:33:23.780 and by its term

00:33:25.880 subsection A

00:33:26.580 of that statute

00:33:28.080 is just

00:33:28.620 it's really clear

00:33:29.440 on its terms

00:33:29.960 if there's a vacancy

00:33:31.220 the attorney general

00:33:32.220 can make an interim

00:33:32.840 appointment period

00:33:33.700 Will would you

00:33:35.220 would you kind of

00:33:35.880 refer to that

00:33:36.460 as maybe

00:33:36.880 oh I don't know

00:33:37.700 a Weissman reading

00:33:38.800 of the statute

00:33:39.500 a Weissman reading

00:33:41.220 of the statute

00:33:41.640 yes and it's

00:33:42.220 it's weird

00:33:42.580 because to be fair

00:33:43.800 there's a lot

00:33:44.440 of district judges

00:33:45.040 who have made

00:33:45.440 this mistake

00:33:46.020 but if we've learned

00:33:46.940 anything from

00:33:47.420 the last year or so

00:33:48.400 is that district judges

00:33:49.560 ruling against

00:33:50.120 the Trump administration

00:33:50.960 is not something

00:33:51.940 that tends to stick

00:33:53.700 when the administration

00:33:54.980 decides to appeal

00:33:55.940 there's something

00:33:56.360 like a 92%

00:33:57.660 success rating

00:33:58.680 of the Supreme Court

00:33:59.360 which is unprecedented

00:34:00.320 unprecedented

00:34:01.280 for an administration

00:34:02.160 to be doing this well

00:34:03.000 and that's because

00:34:03.580 district judges

00:34:04.240 are aggressively

00:34:05.340 trying to find ways

00:34:06.520 to thwart the actions

00:34:08.340 of the Trump administration

00:34:09.300 and this is the most

00:34:10.100 classic example

00:34:10.920 you know James Comey

00:34:12.100 has a lot of relationships

00:34:13.060 in the eastern district

00:34:13.820 of Virginia

00:34:14.340 and elsewhere

00:34:15.000 he has a lot of relationships

00:34:16.320 among democratic politicians

00:34:17.500 they're very upset

00:34:18.340 that he's being indicted

00:34:19.240 for perjuring himself

00:34:20.300 in front of Congress

00:34:21.080 and they're going to

00:34:22.440 pull out all the stops

00:34:23.180 to try and stop

00:34:23.880 the indictment

00:34:24.580 it's one of the reasons

00:34:25.640 that you know

00:34:26.620 people are often

00:34:27.420 can be frustrated

00:34:28.080 that things don't happen

00:34:28.920 more quickly

00:34:29.400 but this is a classic

00:34:30.700 example of

00:34:31.620 even when

00:34:32.640 the administration

00:34:33.500 does things properly

00:34:34.480 there are a whole bunch

00:34:35.220 of roadblocks

00:34:35.820 put in their way

00:34:36.560 so it's really important

00:34:38.280 that to the extent

00:34:39.300 they can

00:34:39.820 they cross their eyes

00:34:40.620 and dot their teeth

00:34:41.120 or dot

00:34:41.740 cross their teeth

00:34:42.440 and dot their eyes

00:34:42.980 well and this is what

00:34:46.300 they're going to do

00:34:47.020 and the reason I refer

00:34:48.020 to Weissman readings

00:34:48.860 is because we know

00:34:49.940 that this is

00:34:50.540 and I remember you

00:34:51.940 conducting this incredible

00:34:53.240 analysis of the

00:34:54.360 obstruction statute

00:34:55.260 when Weissman was

00:34:56.940 trying to urge

00:34:57.800 and when he ran

00:34:58.400 the Mueller investigation

00:34:59.200 and he's now on

00:35:00.000 MSNBC all the time

00:35:01.200 he's constantly

00:35:02.180 trying to find ways

00:35:03.660 this is like his

00:35:04.540 his one trick

00:35:05.540 in a sense

00:35:06.020 he's constantly

00:35:06.900 trying to find ways

00:35:08.020 to twist statutes

00:35:09.360 into readings

00:35:11.060 that don't actually

00:35:12.520 fit the

00:35:13.600 plain text reading

00:35:15.200 or the common sense

00:35:16.720 reading of the words

00:35:18.200 and use them

00:35:19.680 then in effect

00:35:20.900 to block

00:35:21.540 whatever Trump is doing

00:35:22.500 or in the previous case

00:35:23.880 of Mueller

00:35:24.780 actually

00:35:25.340 launch an indictment

00:35:27.260 of the sitting president

00:35:28.080 of the United States

00:35:29.240 or at least

00:35:29.700 urge

00:35:30.280 urge an indictment

00:35:31.400 that would you know

00:35:31.900 turn into an impeachment

00:35:33.500 but it's

00:35:33.960 it's always sort of

00:35:34.840 this one trick

00:35:35.640 isn't it

00:35:36.040 yeah

00:35:37.460 it's a very

00:35:38.140 aggressive

00:35:38.640 liberal lawyering

00:35:40.020 is the one trick

00:35:41.720 right

00:35:42.040 and it's aggressive

00:35:42.700 statutory interpretation

00:35:43.900 novel statutory interpretation

00:35:45.660 the novel use of statutes

00:35:47.960 you know

00:35:48.200 one of the really

00:35:48.640 interesting thing

00:35:49.340 things here

00:35:50.160 is that

00:35:50.620 you know

00:35:51.480 we talked about

00:35:52.000 this endlessly

00:35:52.540 during the Biden

00:35:53.820 administration

00:35:54.200 when they were

00:35:54.600 going after Trump

00:35:55.340 how aggressively

00:35:56.240 they were interpreting

00:35:57.780 1512 subsection C2

00:36:00.480 to try and expand

00:36:02.080 this catch-all

00:36:02.760 obstruction statute

00:36:03.620 into something

00:36:04.200 that encompassed

00:36:04.960 what the president

00:36:05.500 did on January 6th

00:36:07.120 and it's an obstruction

00:36:08.040 of justice statute

00:36:08.700 so this is about

00:36:09.400 the destruction

00:36:10.020 of evidence

00:36:10.460 it's not about

00:36:11.180 stopping you know

00:36:13.060 the count in the

00:36:14.580 the electoral college count

00:36:16.060 so that's

00:36:17.360 this is yet another

00:36:18.220 example of that

00:36:19.120 where

00:36:19.420 but it's

00:36:19.920 now it's going

00:36:20.440 the other direction

00:36:21.260 in the sense

00:36:21.820 that before

00:36:22.260 they were trying

00:36:22.860 to interpret

00:36:24.060 statutes in a novel way

00:36:25.680 in order to expand

00:36:26.800 prosecutorial authority

00:36:27.760 now that

00:36:28.340 the Republicans

00:36:29.500 are in control of it

00:36:30.140 they're coming up

00:36:30.840 with these novel

00:36:31.540 and eccentric

00:36:32.360 interpretations of statutes

00:36:33.580 to constrain

00:36:34.160 prosecutorial authority

00:36:35.200 constrain prosecutorial

00:36:36.420 authority

00:36:36.980 which is amazing

00:36:38.200 so so the Weissman

00:36:40.060 standard is

00:36:41.380 depends on what

00:36:42.240 side of the football

00:36:42.860 he's on

00:36:43.480 in one case

00:36:44.380 oh the prosecutor

00:36:45.340 should be able

00:36:45.720 to do whatever

00:36:46.140 he wants

00:36:46.520 but now

00:36:46.960 now that Lindsay

00:36:47.820 Halligan is the prosecutor

00:36:48.880 oh no

00:36:49.540 we have to constrain

00:36:50.480 prosecutorial authority

00:36:51.760 think of our standing

00:36:52.820 as a you know

00:36:53.640 as a free republic

00:36:54.700 and I mean

00:36:55.300 my gosh

00:36:55.880 if we just allowed

00:36:56.420 these prosecutors

00:36:57.080 to do whatever

00:36:57.880 they want

00:36:58.140 it's really amazing

00:36:58.820 when you think about it

00:36:59.560 you'd be forgiven

00:37:00.640 for thinking

00:37:01.180 that the entire game

00:37:02.060 of progressive lawyering

00:37:03.040 is Calvin Ball

00:37:03.800 you would be forgiven

00:37:04.680 for thinking that

00:37:05.380 that's basically

00:37:06.000 what we're dealing with

00:37:06.860 Will for those

00:37:07.700 who don't know

00:37:08.100 what is Calvin Ball

00:37:08.940 oh Calvin Ball

00:37:10.060 is a cartoon

00:37:11.360 I mean I guess

00:37:12.060 I'm showing my age

00:37:12.860 right because we

00:37:13.540 we had Calvin and Hobbes

00:37:14.520 when we were kids

00:37:15.160 but Calvin and Hobbes

00:37:15.920 is a great cartoon

00:37:16.700 and Calvin Ball

00:37:17.400 is the famous game

00:37:18.340 that is come up

00:37:19.280 with by Calvin

00:37:19.800 which is just

00:37:20.320 basically whatever rule

00:37:21.380 he can make up

00:37:22.020 any rules he wants

00:37:22.840 to at any time

00:37:23.540 and it always ensures

00:37:24.640 that he wins the game

00:37:25.400 no matter what

00:37:25.960 that being said

00:37:27.320 anyone who's

00:37:28.840 got small children

00:37:30.100 knows Calvin Ball

00:37:31.040 because that's exactly

00:37:32.000 how my kids play

00:37:33.120 pretty much every

00:37:33.980 single game

00:37:34.860 that I come up with

00:37:36.100 or they come up with

00:37:37.180 they say daddy

00:37:37.660 let's play this game

00:37:38.760 and then we're playing

00:37:39.380 and I say

00:37:39.720 well that's against the rules

00:37:40.680 oh no there's actually

00:37:41.700 a rule that you don't

00:37:42.340 know about

00:37:42.820 oh really

00:37:43.440 right so that's

00:37:44.640 as crazy as this is

00:37:46.480 folks

00:37:46.740 and you know

00:37:47.480 we're laughing 0.95

00:37:47.920 but it's ridiculous

00:37:50.080 what they're doing

00:37:50.940 to our system

00:37:51.560 because you have

00:37:52.240 actual judges

00:37:53.600 will sit there

00:37:54.580 and play these

00:37:55.260 mental gymnastic games

00:37:56.720 while presiding

00:37:58.360 over the destruction

00:37:59.460 of our country

00:38:00.160 and running roughshod

00:38:01.680 over the actual

00:38:03.140 system of justice

00:38:04.780 Jack Prasovic

00:38:05.400 Will Chamberlain

00:38:06.000 will be right back

00:38:06.700 here at Human Events Daily

00:38:07.520 Jack is a great guy

00:38:18.160 he's written a fantastic book

00:38:19.780 everybody's talking about it

00:38:21.120 go get it

00:38:21.720 and he's been my friend

00:38:23.220 right from the beginning

00:38:24.160 of this whole beautiful event

00:38:25.780 and we're going to turn it around

00:38:27.580 to make our country

00:38:28.520 great to get to him

00:38:29.340 amen

00:38:29.800 all right Jack Prasovic

00:38:33.920 we're back

00:38:34.480 with Will Chamberlain

00:38:36.400 lawyer for the

00:38:38.320 senior attorney

00:38:39.080 for the article 3 project

00:38:40.440 Will

00:38:40.800 the other piece

00:38:41.720 that I wanted to get in

00:38:42.520 with you

00:38:42.960 is this situation

00:38:44.900 regarding the uniform code

00:38:46.140 of military justice

00:38:47.200 and the fact

00:38:48.400 that Senator Mark Kelly

00:38:49.760 himself a retired

00:38:50.760 United States Navy

00:38:51.700 captain

00:38:52.200 in 06

00:38:52.920 equivalent to a colonel

00:38:54.000 in the Army

00:38:55.640 or Marine Corps

00:38:56.640 is supposedly now

00:38:58.560 under investigation

00:38:59.540 by the Pentagon

00:39:00.360 now this is something

00:39:01.460 where and I'll just say

00:39:02.400 as having been a military

00:39:04.300 both enlisted

00:39:05.280 and an officer

00:39:06.060 that the UCMJ

00:39:08.140 is something

00:39:09.020 that's explained to you

00:39:09.960 day one

00:39:10.980 this isn't some gotcha

00:39:11.960 this isn't Calvin Ball

00:39:13.080 and you also know

00:39:14.140 that if you retire

00:39:15.020 and you take that pension

00:39:17.080 if you're getting those checks

00:39:18.140 then you are still

00:39:20.460 subject to

00:39:21.840 the uniform code

00:39:22.940 of military justice

00:39:24.360 so Will

00:39:24.860 looking at it

00:39:25.760 from that perspective

00:39:26.660 this idea

00:39:27.320 of whether or not

00:39:29.080 his comments

00:39:30.540 and actions

00:39:31.320 do actually form

00:39:32.680 the basis

00:39:33.120 for a sedition charge

00:39:34.740 in a court martial

00:39:36.440 which is different

00:39:37.220 from a civilian court

00:39:38.320 do you think

00:39:39.600 that potentially

00:39:40.400 the government

00:39:40.920 would have a case here?

00:39:42.940 Yeah I mean

00:39:43.400 you know

00:39:44.140 my understanding

00:39:44.880 and you might actually

00:39:45.780 know a little bit more

00:39:46.500 about military law

00:39:47.220 than I do

00:39:47.620 because you were so

00:39:48.420 deeply ingrained in it

00:39:49.640 but

00:39:49.900 that you're not allowed

00:39:53.300 to do things

00:39:53.720 that knowingly

00:39:54.260 undermine good order

00:39:54.920 and discipline

00:39:55.380 is my understanding

00:39:56.340 and it's hard to imagine

00:39:57.580 something that could

00:39:58.420 undermine good order

00:39:59.240 and discipline

00:39:59.640 more than to

00:40:00.600 insinuate

00:40:01.800 that they're unlawful

00:40:03.020 Believe it or not

00:40:04.400 actually just to

00:40:05.180 give you the

00:40:06.540 lanes here

00:40:07.680 that's an entirely

00:40:09.260 separate statute

00:40:10.240 so there's an article

00:40:11.640 for good order

00:40:12.300 and discipline

00:40:12.700 134

00:40:13.320 this is like

00:40:13.740 your general catch-all

00:40:14.580 there's article 92

00:40:15.640 which involves

00:40:16.380 insubordination

00:40:17.640 and then there is

00:40:18.800 of course

00:40:19.280 the sedition

00:40:21.440 I had this

00:40:23.240 pulled up a minute ago

00:40:24.060 the actual sedition

00:40:25.040 article itself

00:40:25.880 so I mean

00:40:26.360 there's quite a few

00:40:28.040 articles that

00:40:28.920 cover this

00:40:29.800 and then for a lot

00:40:30.760 of people

00:40:31.100 not understanding

00:40:32.100 if you take

00:40:33.480 the pension

00:40:34.040 you are still

00:40:35.100 considered subject

00:40:36.440 to the Uniform Code

00:40:37.660 of Military Justice

00:40:38.660 Right

00:40:39.900 and it's like

00:40:40.720 we shouldn't have

00:40:41.680 retired senior

00:40:42.740 military officers

00:40:43.540 who hold the esteem

00:40:44.920 of being retired

00:40:45.820 senior military officers

00:40:46.980 saying things

00:40:48.280 that undermine

00:40:48.940 the good order

00:40:49.580 and discipline

00:40:50.080 of the army

00:40:50.780 I mean

00:40:51.940 the fact that

00:40:53.020 military service

00:40:54.240 members can't

00:40:55.200 obey unlawful orders

00:40:56.140 or shouldn't obey

00:40:56.760 is drilled into them

00:40:57.680 from the beginning

00:40:58.360 but it's drilled into them

00:40:59.860 in the context

00:41:00.560 of the fact that

00:41:01.260 they need to presume

00:41:02.240 that orders are lawful

00:41:03.400 and that they need

00:41:04.660 to obey their superiors

00:41:06.360 and that insubordination

00:41:07.400 is punished as well

00:41:08.440 so when you have

00:41:09.500 six senators

00:41:10.080 getting up there

00:41:10.820 drilling in

00:41:11.720 the sort of opposite message

00:41:12.900 you must not follow

00:41:14.400 unlawful orders

00:41:15.160 while not being able

00:41:16.300 to identify

00:41:16.760 a single unlawful order

00:41:17.840 that's been issued

00:41:18.600 everybody understands

00:41:20.940 what you're doing

00:41:21.560 everybody understands

00:41:22.500 that you're trying

00:41:23.080 to foment

00:41:23.820 discontent

00:41:25.260 and insubordination

00:41:26.920 in the military

00:41:27.580 which is something

00:41:28.680 that you're prohibited

00:41:29.380 from doing

00:41:30.080 something that Captain

00:41:30.880 Mark Kelly

00:41:31.240 is prohibited

00:41:31.700 from doing

00:41:32.160 and should know better

00:41:33.100 no and it's something

00:41:36.400 by the way

00:41:36.780 when you mentioned

00:41:37.300 he should know better

00:41:38.120 this is something

00:41:39.280 that look

00:41:40.480 if a member

00:41:41.900 of the military

00:41:42.580 did this

00:41:43.420 while they were serving

00:41:44.820 you know I should say

00:41:45.780 you know a regular

00:41:46.700 member of the military

00:41:47.620 someone who's not

00:41:48.520 you know a famous

00:41:49.640 Democrat

00:41:50.100 who takes selfies

00:41:51.580 with Alex Soros

00:41:53.140 and who's invested

00:41:54.340 in Chinese spy

00:41:55.540 balloon companies

00:41:56.500 right

00:41:57.100 if you did

00:41:58.400 something like this

00:41:59.440 then you would

00:42:00.540 absolutely be

00:42:01.840 you would either

00:42:02.540 be brought to the

00:42:03.440 captain's mast

00:42:04.080 in the Navy

00:42:04.520 which is something

00:42:05.020 we have for

00:42:05.540 extraditional punishment

00:42:06.460 and as an officer

00:42:08.420 in high standing

00:42:09.300 like an 06

00:42:10.300 as he is

00:42:11.760 and continues

00:42:12.980 to be

00:42:13.360 by the way

00:42:13.820 because he's

00:42:14.340 receiving a retirement

00:42:15.120 retirement pension

00:42:16.860 commensurate with his

00:42:17.920 rank

00:42:18.420 then yes

00:42:19.380 he absolutely

00:42:20.400 should face

00:42:21.420 something like this

00:42:22.200 and it's not about

00:42:23.140 necessarily punishing

00:42:24.820 Mark Kelly

00:42:25.780 it's about

00:42:26.600 upholding

00:42:27.960 a broad standard

00:42:29.240 for the entire

00:42:29.880 military

00:42:30.300 as an armed

00:42:31.380 forces discipline

00:42:32.300 yeah like

00:42:34.340 you don't play games

00:42:35.380 with insubordination

00:42:36.340 in any military

00:42:37.480 it's the most

00:42:38.520 basic idea

00:42:39.420 that you

00:42:39.820 I mean

00:42:40.420 my whole understanding

00:42:41.220 of you know

00:42:41.840 I didn't go through

00:42:42.300 boot camp

00:42:42.640 but you did

00:42:43.160 but the whole

00:42:43.540 my whole understanding

00:42:44.360 of the point

00:42:44.720 of boot camp

00:42:45.160 is to sort of

00:42:45.700 drill into you 0.58

00:42:46.240 that your job

00:42:46.820 is to say yes sir

00:42:47.780 when you're given

00:42:48.260 an order

00:42:48.660 among many other things

00:42:50.220 so the last thing

00:42:51.980 we should be doing

00:42:52.740 is like

00:42:53.340 aggressively

00:42:54.280 making subordinates

00:42:56.000 question whether

00:42:57.220 they're being given

00:42:58.440 lawful or unlawful

00:42:59.280 orders constantly

00:43:00.040 like that's

00:43:00.940 you know

00:43:01.240 unlawful orders

00:43:02.260 should be a giant

00:43:03.000 bright glaring red light

00:43:04.420 that is almost

00:43:05.240 almost never happens

00:43:06.640 is not going to happen

00:43:08.140 to the vast majority

00:43:08.900 of service members

00:43:09.840 ever

00:43:10.280 if not any

00:43:11.540 you know

00:43:11.940 the complete

00:43:13.500 vast majority

00:43:14.300 and so

00:43:15.640 for you know

00:43:16.680 for these six senators

00:43:17.460 to just be coming up

00:43:18.400 with this out of nowhere

00:43:19.460 and randomly like

00:43:20.660 and this

00:43:21.200 the strong insinuation

00:43:22.300 of those grave faces

00:43:23.640 like they're

00:43:24.700 they're really deeply

00:43:25.440 insinuating

00:43:25.940 that there are

00:43:26.520 unlawful orders

00:43:27.120 coming from

00:43:27.500 president trump

00:43:27.960 right now

00:43:28.300 but it's irresponsible

00:43:29.560 for them to do that

00:43:30.200 if they can't point

00:43:30.780 to anything

00:43:31.140 that they think

00:43:31.600 is unlawful

00:43:32.180 right

00:43:34.000 and so

00:43:34.460 that's exactly

00:43:35.620 what it's supposed to be

00:43:36.480 and this whole idea

00:43:37.480 of you know

00:43:38.400 oh you must disobey

00:43:39.640 unlawful orders

00:43:40.460 no you know

00:43:41.060 we know what you're doing

00:43:42.000 and we know exactly

00:43:43.540 what you're doing

00:43:44.000 you're not

00:43:44.340 you're not

00:43:44.820 you know

00:43:45.400 you're not being coy

00:43:46.520 you're not being clever

00:43:47.520 it's very obvious

00:43:48.420 and for me

00:43:49.800 I think that

00:43:51.000 when I saw this

00:43:52.200 come out in the first place

00:43:53.360 I recognized

00:43:54.560 the democrat plan

00:43:56.100 from all the way back

00:43:56.960 in 2019

00:43:57.600 the original impeachment

00:43:59.120 of president trump

00:43:59.940 which started

00:44:00.580 with a member

00:44:01.740 of the military

00:44:02.440 working with a member

00:44:03.520 of the intelligence

00:44:04.100 community

00:44:04.580 to leak

00:44:05.820 a phone call

00:44:06.540 with zelinski

00:44:07.240 yes the same

00:44:08.160 president zelinski

00:44:08.940 and the same

00:44:09.860 president trump

00:44:10.660 that led to this

00:44:12.200 uh this impeachment

00:44:13.360 inquiry

00:44:13.900 which it was all

00:44:14.920 predicated on a

00:44:15.620 quid pro quo

00:44:16.200 that never actually

00:44:17.300 took place

00:44:18.100 in the transcript

00:44:18.840 but what did it

00:44:19.900 start with

00:44:20.420 it started with

00:44:21.260 members of the

00:44:21.760 military

00:44:22.160 and members

00:44:22.660 of the intelligence

00:44:23.200 community

00:44:23.720 leaking on the

00:44:24.700 commander-in-chief

00:44:25.280 that's right

00:44:26.640 yeah and of course

00:44:27.400 mr vindman's brother

00:44:28.440 is now serving in

00:44:29.340 congress

00:44:29.700 and apparently

00:44:30.360 his playbook

00:44:31.660 is about one page

00:44:32.580 long because he's

00:44:33.520 doing making the

00:44:34.160 same sort of stunt

00:44:34.960 where he's you know

00:44:36.060 talking about how he

00:44:37.760 saw the contents of a

00:44:38.880 phone call when he

00:44:39.660 worked for the trump

00:44:40.420 nsa and he's

00:44:41.780 demanding that trump

00:44:42.700 release the contents

00:44:43.560 of that phone call

00:44:44.340 again query whether

00:44:45.420 or not that's yet

00:44:46.340 again another violation

00:44:47.580 of the classified

00:44:49.080 materials rules like

00:44:50.720 whenever you know

00:44:51.720 are you allowed you

00:44:52.940 actually again you're

00:44:53.880 you're an expert in

00:44:54.600 classified information

00:44:55.360 because of you

00:44:55.840 yourself can you can

00:44:56.680 you just talk about

00:44:57.600 how the what

00:44:58.920 information you saw

00:45:00.140 and how derogatory

00:45:01.240 it is and how

00:45:02.440 people should really

00:45:03.220 release it so they

00:45:03.960 can see how

00:45:04.500 derogatory it is

00:45:05.420 no no no you

00:45:06.940 cannot and

00:45:08.600 right and

00:45:09.360 even if you don't

00:45:09.800 say exactly what the

00:45:10.860 information is you

00:45:11.680 you say but it's

00:45:12.660 super derogatory i

00:45:13.740 promise and he

00:45:14.620 should be forced to

00:45:15.260 release it no

00:45:16.340 no you really you

00:45:17.120 really can't you

00:45:18.120 really can't you

00:45:19.120 can't make references

00:45:19.940 to it and i would i

00:45:22.080 would urge by the

00:45:23.060 way anyone to go

00:45:25.220 through every single

00:45:26.520 uh one of the tweets

00:45:27.960 that i've ever written

00:45:28.820 or statements that

00:45:30.040 i've ever made on

00:45:31.180 this show or any

00:45:32.400 others to see if

00:45:33.900 i've ever committed

00:45:35.000 exactly what you're

00:45:36.060 saying right now

00:45:36.760 because now um i'm

00:45:39.440 not under ucmj because

00:45:40.580 i didn't do 20 years

00:45:41.680 to qualify for a

00:45:43.060 retirement pension

00:45:43.740 however as a member

00:45:45.080 of the intelligence

00:45:45.600 community i do have a

00:45:46.940 lifetime nda and so

00:45:49.020 if i were to come on

00:45:49.820 here and say hey

00:45:50.880 will and and

00:45:51.900 everybody gather

00:45:52.740 around i'm going to

00:45:53.520 tell you about

00:45:54.080 everything that took

00:45:54.960 place down at

00:45:55.540 guantanamo bay when i

00:45:56.560 was there you know

00:45:57.580 that would probably

00:45:58.960 be my last episode

00:46:00.080 yeah probably and

00:46:01.900 rightfully so and and

00:46:03.300 so i feel like this

00:46:04.380 maybe this has gone

00:46:05.240 under the radar because

00:46:05.960 nobody's talking about

00:46:06.860 investigating eugene

00:46:07.780 vindman for mishandling

00:46:08.620 classified information

00:46:09.560 but there's no doubt

00:46:10.440 that the contents of

00:46:11.660 that phone call between

00:46:12.640 president trump and

00:46:13.520 mbs are like in if 0.99

00:46:15.200 they haven't been

00:46:15.600 released they are

00:46:16.140 classified that is

00:46:17.040 foreign diplomacy so

00:46:18.620 the fact that he's

00:46:19.300 insinuating he knows

00:46:20.280 what's in those phone

00:46:21.120 calls and demanding

00:46:22.000 transcript releases on

00:46:23.560 that basis what this

00:46:25.360 is a six-year-old

00:46:25.860 foreign phone call

00:46:26.500 too like what's the

00:46:27.460 there's no there's no

00:46:28.620 whistleblower protection

00:46:29.600 for him now you know

00:46:31.120 that he falls you know

00:46:32.120 flatly and frivolously

00:46:33.780 asserted back in 2018 or

00:46:35.280 yeah i guess his brother

00:46:36.200 it's easy to confuse the

00:46:37.200 two of them right they

00:46:37.900 both you know they both

00:46:39.020 are named vindman right

00:46:40.280 right are applauded by

00:46:41.420 the ukrainians they both

00:46:42.360 leak classified phone

00:46:43.120 and speaking of which by

00:46:44.500 the way will um uh we

00:46:46.120 do have breaking news on

00:46:47.320 ukraine president trump we

00:46:48.740 we talked about this at

00:46:49.520 beginning of the show i

00:46:50.140 know we have about a

00:46:50.780 minute left but president

00:46:52.180 trump has just released a

00:46:53.600 truth social saying that

00:46:55.020 over the past week my

00:46:56.420 team has made tremendous

00:46:57.240 progress with respect to

00:46:58.540 ending the war between

00:46:59.660 russia and ukraine uh last

00:47:01.780 month 25 000 soldiers

00:47:03.900 died the original 28 point

00:47:05.420 peace plan which is

00:47:06.260 drafted by the united

00:47:07.000 states has been fine

00:47:08.500 tuned additional input

00:47:09.640 from both sides there

00:47:10.880 are only a few remaining

00:47:11.760 points of disagreement

00:47:12.640 this is this is

00:47:13.620 significant in the hopes

00:47:14.960 of finalizing this peace

00:47:16.440 plan president trump has

00:47:17.520 directed his special

00:47:18.500 envoy steve whitkoff to

00:47:20.180 meet with president

00:47:21.160 putin in moscow and at the

00:47:23.180 same time secretary of the

00:47:24.360 army dan driscoll will be

00:47:26.080 meeting with the ukrainians

00:47:28.720 and so really working

00:47:30.160 forward to the final stages

00:47:31.960 potentially of a peace plan

00:47:33.580 that's uh breaking news from

00:47:34.920 president united states

00:47:35.800 himself will i wish we had

00:47:37.640 more time we'll get you

00:47:38.480 back on when we have more

00:47:39.660 on these legal developments

00:47:41.360 where can people go to

00:47:42.160 follow you in the interim

00:47:43.160 at will chamberlain on x and

00:47:45.560 you can always follow what

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00:47:47.600 doing and join our campaigns

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00:47:51.600 will and hope that you

00:47:52.480 jordan and the family have

00:47:53.700 a great and happy

00:47:54.660 thanksgiving absolutely

00:47:56.060 happy thanksgiving god

00:47:58.240 bless ladies and 0.98

00:47:58.860 gentlemen as always you

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Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - November 25, 2025

Will Russia Agree To New Ukraine Peace Deal？

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