Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - March 13, 2025


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In this episode of the Poscast, we have a special guest on the show today. He's a retired Marine Corps Admiral who served with the 7th US base in the High Arctic and is now the Defense Minister of the United States of America's newest base in Greenland.

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00:00:26.680 We have a lot of our favorites.
00:00:30.000 Favorite players, you know, cruising around the coast.
00:00:33.240 And we have to be careful.
00:00:35.280 And we'll be talking to you.
00:00:36.940 It's a very appropriate, really a very appropriate question.
00:00:40.200 Thank you very much.
00:00:40.720 And the issue of the high north, so the Arctic.
00:00:41.920 So what you did, so when it comes to Greenland, yes, we're not joining the U.S.
00:00:45.700 I would leave that outside for me this discussion because I don't want to direct NATO in that.
00:00:50.960 But when it comes to the high north and the Arctic, you are totally right.
00:00:54.800 The Chinese are now using these routes.
00:00:56.680 We know that the Russians are rearming.
00:00:58.360 We know we have a lack of icebreakers.
00:01:01.640 So the fact that the seven outside Russia, the seven Arctic countries working together
00:01:06.960 on this under U.S. leadership is very important to make sure that that region, that that part
00:01:11.440 of the world stays safe.
00:01:12.380 And we know things are changing there.
00:01:14.480 And we have to be there.
00:01:15.720 Well, you just had an election there the other day.
00:01:18.660 Do you see a referendum, a plebiscite, where the people of Greenland would be in a position
00:01:24.620 to decide if they want to become part of the United States?
00:01:28.880 Yeah, it was a good election for us, as you know.
00:01:32.180 It was not a referendum.
00:01:34.880 It wouldn't be called that.
00:01:35.860 It was an individual election.
00:01:37.200 But the person that did the best is a very good person, as far as we're concerned.
00:01:42.280 And so we'll be talking about it.
00:01:45.000 And it's very important.
00:01:46.960 Mark mentioned the word icebreaker.
00:01:48.900 So we've ordered, we're in the process of ordering 48 icebreakers.
00:01:54.440 And Canada wants to know if they could use them.
00:01:57.220 I said, well, you know, you got to pay for them.
00:01:59.620 Think of it.
00:02:00.420 Canada.
00:02:01.220 We pay for their military.
00:02:02.480 You know, Canada pays very little for their military because they think we're going to
00:02:05.360 protect them, but even with the icebreakers.
00:02:08.400 So we're going to order 48, and Canada wants to be part of the deal.
00:02:12.800 I say, you got to get your own icebreakers.
00:02:15.840 I mean, if you're a state, you can be part of the deal.
00:02:18.280 But if you're a separate country, you've got to get your own icebreakers. 0.98
00:02:22.200 Russia, as you know, has about 40 of them.
00:02:25.020 And we have one big icebreaker.
00:02:27.680 But that whole area is becoming very important.
00:02:30.160 And for a lot of reasons, the routes are, you know, very direct.
00:02:35.360 To Asia, to Russia, and you have ships all over the place.
00:02:39.700 And we have to have protection.
00:02:41.960 So we're going to have to make a deal on that.
00:02:44.420 And Denmark is not able to do that.
00:02:46.640 You know, Denmark's very far away and really has nothing to do.
00:02:50.720 What happens?
00:02:51.440 A boat landed there 200 years ago or something, and they say they have rights to it.
00:02:56.140 I don't know if that's true.
00:02:57.120 I'm not, I don't think it is, actually.
00:02:59.360 But we've been dealing with Denmark.
00:03:01.140 We've been dealing with Greenland.
00:03:02.400 And we have to do it.
00:03:03.300 But we really need it for national security.
00:03:06.100 I think that's why NATO might have to get involved in a way, because we really need Greenland for national security.
00:03:13.560 It's very important.
00:03:14.440 You know, we have a couple of bases on Greenland already.
00:03:17.740 And we have quite a few soldiers.
00:03:19.680 And maybe you'll see more and more soldiers go there.
00:03:22.640 I don't know.
00:03:23.200 What do you think about that, Pete?
00:03:24.320 So, don't answer that question.
00:03:28.240 Don't answer that question.
00:03:29.740 But we have bases, and we have quite a few soldiers on Greenland.
00:03:33.380 Because it's a whole question, your commitment to NATO.
00:03:35.800 Will anything change?
00:03:38.580 Your commitment to NATO.
00:03:40.660 Will anything change?
00:03:42.020 Same amount of money?
00:03:42.900 Well, I think they made a great step by putting Mark in charge.
00:03:48.360 I think, to me, that's a great step.
00:03:50.040 Because he and I have seen eye to eye on everything for a long time.
00:03:54.160 We've been doing this a long time now.
00:03:55.820 No, he has now.
00:03:56.320 And so, that's a great step.
00:03:59.680 You have to keep NATO strong.
00:04:01.320 You have to keep it relevant.
00:04:04.720 But the biggest thing we have to worry about right now is what's going on right now.
00:04:09.180 I think the rest is going to take care of itself.
00:04:11.200 I don't see this happening.
00:04:12.140 This was a fluke.
00:04:13.060 This was something that, if we had a competent president, it would not have happened.
00:04:17.740 The man was grossly incompetent.
00:04:19.940 All you have to do is look and take a look at he signs by autopad.
00:04:23.640 Who was signing all this stuff by autopad?
00:04:26.600 Who would think you'd sign important documents by autopad?
00:04:30.860 You know, these are major documents you're signing.
00:04:33.220 You're proud to sign them.
00:04:34.220 You have your signature and something.
00:04:35.620 In 300 years, they say, oh, look, can you imagine?
00:04:38.540 Everything was signed by autopad.
00:04:39.880 Almost everything.
00:04:41.640 Nobody's ever heard of such a thing.
00:04:43.300 So, should have never happened.
00:04:46.100 I'm sitting tomorrow at the Justice Department about law and order.
00:04:49.320 Could you tell us a little bit about that?
00:04:50.660 We're going to be with the Justice Department.
00:04:54.140 We have a great Justice Department.
00:04:55.840 Pam Bondi is so fantastic.
00:04:58.820 And Todd Blanche.
00:05:00.080 And Emil, you got to know him a little bit.
00:05:01.920 He was acting for a little while.
00:05:04.440 And some other people are incredible in the Justice Department.
00:05:08.360 And I consider the FBI to be a part of it, in a sense.
00:05:12.080 And Cash is going to be fantastic.
00:05:13.780 And all the people he's.
00:05:15.340 Dan Bongino, I love that.
00:05:16.900 I mean, I love that.
00:05:17.640 I think Dan is great.
00:05:19.600 I think we have unbelievable people.
00:05:22.240 And all I'm going to do is set out my vision.
00:05:24.780 It's going to be their vision, really.
00:05:26.120 But it's, it's, I think that leads to peace.
00:05:30.160 That's going to really lead to peace.
00:05:31.320 Jack Posobiec, here we are live.
00:05:33.360 We're going to welcome you in Hour 3, the Charlie Kirk Program.
00:05:36.520 This is Human Events Daily, Salem Radio Network.
00:05:39.900 We're going live to our coverage of the White House moments ago, President Trump and the head of NATO.
00:05:46.000 We're going to be in very good shape to get it done.
00:05:47.820 We want to get it over with.
00:05:49.020 That's why it was very important what I instructed everybody, including Steve, what we're looking for,
00:05:54.960 to discuss concepts of land, concepts of power plants, because it's complicated.
00:06:01.560 You know, you have a whole, you're sort of creating the edge of a, of a country.
00:06:07.300 The sad part is that country, if they didn't, if this didn't happen, and it wouldn't have happened,
00:06:14.360 I don't know if they would have to give anything back.
00:06:17.660 I guess Crimea, you know, I said it last time, Crimea was given by Obama.
00:06:26.520 Biden gave the whole thing, and Bush gave them Georgia.
00:06:29.680 And Trump didn't give them anything.
00:06:31.340 I gave them, you know what I gave them?
00:06:33.160 I gave them javelins.
00:06:36.060 And the javelins were very effective, as you know.
00:06:38.860 I gave them nothing.
00:06:41.060 2019.
00:06:42.080 And then also, if you take a look, I was the one that stopped the pipeline going into Europe.
00:06:47.900 It was totally stopped.
00:06:49.240 Nord Stream 2.
00:06:49.980 Nobody ever heard of Nord Stream 2 before I came along.
00:06:53.740 But I got along very well with President Putin.
00:06:56.940 I got along with most of them.
00:06:58.240 I got along great with President Xi.
00:06:59.920 I got along great with Kim Jong-un.
00:07:02.560 I got along great with all of them.
00:07:05.160 And we had no wars.
00:07:06.760 We had no problems.
00:07:07.640 We wiped out ISIS in record time.
00:07:10.620 General Raisin Cain.
00:07:12.580 And he wiped them out.
00:07:13.960 And he was going to be our new chief, right?
00:07:15.520 He's going to be the head of Joint Chiefs of Staff.
00:07:20.140 And he's a highly respected man.
00:07:21.860 He's going to be great.
00:07:22.860 Pete's going to be fantastic.
00:07:24.220 I have no doubt about it.
00:07:25.800 We have a great team.
00:07:27.220 Really great team.
00:07:28.460 Yeah, please.
00:07:29.400 Go ahead, please.
00:07:30.160 Mr. President, some of our allies have said that they're worried that they could be the next to be attacked by Russia.
00:07:36.680 You've spoken directly with the Russian president.
00:07:39.180 Do you think those fears are justified?
00:07:41.340 No, I don't.
00:07:41.920 I think when this gets done, it's done.
00:07:44.820 They're going to all want to go home and rest.
00:07:46.960 I don't see it happening.
00:07:48.300 Nope.
00:07:48.640 I don't see that happening.
00:07:51.540 And we'll make sure it doesn't happen.
00:07:53.600 Not going to happen, but we'll make sure it doesn't happen.
00:07:56.600 Yeah, go ahead, please.
00:07:58.020 Leaders from Russia and Iran are heading to Beijing tomorrow to discuss nuclear programs.
00:08:02.800 What do you hope to get out of that?
00:08:03.760 Well, maybe they're going to talk about non-nuclear programs.
00:08:07.580 Maybe they're going to be talking about the de-escalation of nuclear weapons.
00:08:11.200 Because, you know, I was talking about that with President Putin very strongly.
00:08:15.380 And we could have done something had that election not been rigged.
00:08:20.300 We would have had something.
00:08:21.320 I think I would have made a deal with Putin on de-escalation, de-nuclearization, as they say.
00:08:28.860 But we would have de-escalated nuclear weapons.
00:08:31.140 Because the power of nuclear weapons is so great and so devastating.
00:08:35.460 And right now, Russia and us have by far the most.
00:08:39.680 But China will catch us within five years. 0.97
00:08:41.860 China doesn't have.
00:08:43.320 But they're in the process of building.
00:08:45.320 And they build.
00:08:46.620 And within four or five years, they'll probably have the same.
00:08:50.280 And by the way, this is a Republican tradition.
00:08:52.760 Ronald Reagan, when he negotiated with Gorbachev in the 1980s about bringing down the number of nuclear weapons,
00:08:59.940 it's what you have been doing your first term.
00:09:02.220 And it is important.
00:09:03.260 It would be a great achievement if we could bring down the number.
00:09:07.060 We have so many weapons and the power is so great.
00:09:11.640 And number one, you don't need them to that extent.
00:09:14.940 And then we'd have to get others because, as you know, in a smaller way,
00:09:18.700 Kim Jong-un has a lot of nuclear weapons, by the way.
00:09:21.620 A lot.
00:09:22.860 And others do also.
00:09:24.400 You have India. 0.94
00:09:25.960 You have Pakistan. 0.99
00:09:27.040 You have others that have them.
00:09:29.380 And we'd get them involved.
00:09:30.880 But we started off with Russia and us.
00:09:32.800 We have by far, actually by far the most.
00:09:35.640 And we were going to de-nuclearize.
00:09:38.260 And that was going to happen.
00:09:40.040 And then we were going to China.
00:09:41.220 And I spoke to China.
00:09:42.060 And I spoke to President Xi about it.
00:09:43.980 And he really liked the idea.
00:09:45.660 You know, he liked not to spend trillions of dollars building weapons that hopefully he's never going to have to use.
00:09:52.220 And because they are very expensive also.
00:09:54.620 So that would have been great.
00:09:56.660 Okay, one or two more.
00:09:57.500 Thank you.
00:09:59.500 We're looking at an impending government shutdown Friday at midnight.
00:10:05.100 Democrats for 30 years straight have said if there's a shutdown, bad things happen.
00:10:11.420 Do you anticipate direct negotiations yourself with conference leader of the Democrats, Chuck Schumer?
00:10:19.380 If they need me, I'm there 100%.
00:10:21.780 Right now, it's two or three people.
00:10:26.900 If it shuts down, it's not the Republicans' fault.
00:10:29.680 You know, we passed a bill where we had an incredible Republican vote.
00:10:35.480 We only had one negative vote, a grandstander.
00:10:38.140 You know, one grandstander.
00:10:39.440 There's always a grandstander in the lot.
00:10:41.880 But it was amazing.
00:10:43.920 People were amazed that the Republicans were able to vote in unison like that so strongly.
00:10:50.700 If there's a shutdown, even the Democrats admit it'll be their fault.
00:10:55.900 And I'm hearing a lot of Democrats are going to vote for it.
00:10:58.380 And I hope they do.
00:10:59.300 This is an extension.
00:11:00.940 But ultimately, we want to vote for one big, beautiful bill where we put the taxes in.
00:11:05.720 We put everything in.
00:11:06.720 We're going to have big tax cuts.
00:11:08.560 We're going to have tremendous incentives for companies coming into our country and employing lots of people.
00:11:14.740 It'll be, I called it, in a rare moment, one big, beautiful bill.
00:11:21.840 That's what I like.
00:11:22.600 And it seems to be that's where they're heading.
00:11:25.220 And we'll have to take care of something to do with Los Angeles.
00:11:29.120 A place called Los Angeles almost burned to the ground.
00:11:31.480 By the way, I broke into Los Angeles.
00:11:34.540 Can you believe it?
00:11:35.200 I had a break in.
00:11:35.940 I invaded Los Angeles and we opened up the water.
00:11:40.520 And the water is now flowing down.
00:11:42.380 They have so much water, they don't know what to do.
00:11:44.280 They were sending it out to the Pacific for environmental reasons.
00:11:49.020 Okay.
00:11:49.300 Can you believe it?
00:11:50.220 And in the meantime, they lost 25,000 houses.
00:11:53.760 They lost.
00:11:54.280 And nobody's ever seen anything like it.
00:11:55.920 But we have the water, I'd love to show you a picture.
00:12:00.600 You've seen the picture.
00:12:01.460 The water is flowing through the half pipes.
00:12:03.880 You know, we have the big half pipes that go down.
00:12:05.720 Used to, 25 years ago, they used to have plenty of water.
00:12:08.360 But they turned it off for, again, for environmental reasons.
00:12:12.120 Well, I turned it on for environmental reasons and also fire reasons.
00:12:15.960 But, and I've been asking them to do that during my first term.
00:12:20.100 I said, do it.
00:12:20.620 I didn't think anything could happen like this, but they didn't have enough water.
00:12:25.200 Now the farmers are going to have water for their land and the water is in there.
00:12:29.780 But I actually had to break in.
00:12:31.100 We broke in to do it because we had people that were afraid to give water.
00:12:37.240 They were, in particular, they were trying to protect a certain little fish.
00:12:42.180 And I said, how do you protect the fish if you don't have water?
00:12:45.020 They didn't have any water, so they're protecting a fish.
00:12:47.940 And that didn't work out too well, by the way.
00:12:51.180 So they have a lot of water going down throughout California,
00:12:55.000 all coming out from the Pacific Northwest, even some from Canada.
00:12:58.560 Thank you, Canada, very much.
00:13:00.400 I appreciate it.
00:13:01.200 Next thing you know, they'll want to turn the water off.
00:13:03.340 They want to charge us for the water.
00:13:05.120 But it comes up from the Pacific Northwest, and it's a beautiful thing to see.
00:13:09.780 I mean, it is brimming with water.
00:13:12.180 Now, if they would have had that done, you wouldn't have had the damage
00:13:15.480 because the fire would have been put out.
00:13:17.520 The fire hydrants would have been loaded.
00:13:19.560 The sprinklers in people's living rooms and bedrooms would have been loaded up with water.
00:13:23.540 They had no water.
00:13:24.560 The government makes them put sprinklers, and they had no water in the sprinklers
00:13:28.080 because they had no water.
00:13:30.460 So the water is flowing, and we're going to have to give a lot of money to Los Angeles
00:13:37.760 to help them.
00:13:39.120 And the Democrats are going to want to do that.
00:13:41.460 So that's the one thing different.
00:13:42.960 And frankly, I think that makes it a lot easier.
00:13:45.500 But one of the big thing is we have the big, beautiful bill.
00:13:49.300 We've got to get that done.
00:13:50.260 And that will put our country in a position like it's never been in.
00:13:54.520 It's a reduction of taxes.
00:13:56.720 It's tremendous incentives for companies to come from all over the world into our country.
00:14:02.640 It's great environmentally, but it's not this environmental scam that we went through,
00:14:08.220 that we all went through.
00:14:10.000 It provides for everything.
00:14:11.480 It's a big, beautiful bill, and I hope we can get it approved, and that'll be next.
00:14:14.780 But in the meantime, we have the continuing resolution, and the Republicans have approved
00:14:21.820 it, and now the Democrats have to approve it, and I hope they will.
00:14:26.240 And I think a lot of them, I can tell you, they want to.
00:14:29.900 I've spoken to some of them.
00:14:31.220 They really want to.
00:14:32.720 Their leadership may not want them to.
00:14:35.200 And if it closes, it's purely on the Democrats.
00:14:39.620 One more.
00:14:40.100 On Korea, sir, we've seen tension increasing in the peninsula.
00:14:44.160 You've talked about Kim Jong-un.
00:14:45.840 Do you have any plans of getting, of reestablishing the relationship you had during the first mandate?
00:14:50.620 Well, I would.
00:14:51.320 I had a great relationship with Kim Jong-un, North Korea.
00:14:55.160 If I wasn't elected, if Hillary got in, you would have had a nuclear war with North Korea. 1.00
00:15:00.260 He expected it.
00:15:01.460 He expected it.
00:15:03.160 And they said, oh, thousands of people, no, millions of people would have been killed.
00:15:06.500 But I got in, we went to Singapore when we met, we went to Vietnam when we met.
00:15:14.360 We got along really good.
00:15:15.800 We had a very good relationship, and we still do.
00:15:20.380 We still do.
00:15:21.100 You don't have that threat that you had.
00:15:22.700 I mean, look, when I was running the first time, it looked like there was a war.
00:15:26.040 Okay, Jack Posobiec, hour three, Charlie Kirksey.
00:15:28.540 You talk about influences.
00:15:30.080 These are influences, and they're friends of mine.
00:15:34.340 Jack Posobiec.
00:15:35.900 Where's Jack?
00:15:36.740 Jack.
00:15:37.840 He's done a great job.
00:15:39.680 Do you have a meeting with Vladimir Putin's schedule?
00:15:42.040 I won't comment on that, but we had a great success yesterday.
00:15:46.700 We have a full ceasefire when it, if it kicks in, but we have to see it's up to Russia now. 0.95
00:15:53.620 But we've had a good relationship with both parties, actually, and we'll see.
00:15:58.640 We'll be knowing people are going to Russia right now as we speak, and hopefully we can get a ceasefire from Russia.
00:16:05.420 If NATO expansion is recognized, at least by Donald Trump, as one of the root causes, then the presence of the troops from NATO countries under any flag, in any capacity, on Ukrainian soil is the same threat.
00:16:28.400 The second is we agree with the proposals for the ceasefire, but our position is based on the assumption that the ceasefire would lead to a long-term peace.
00:16:45.000 All right, there's a lot going on here.
00:16:47.280 There's a lot to unpack.
00:16:48.540 So we've got live breaking from the White House and then breaking from Moscow as well.
00:16:54.860 We're going to bring in the Salem Radio Network here in just a couple of seconds, but I want people to understand that here on the program, we are understanding that peace is on the table.
00:17:05.280 World peace is actually on the table.
00:17:08.280 But if this goes wrong, if this goes sideways, all of this could slide into World War III.
00:17:17.040 This is exactly where President Trump is where he is.
00:17:19.620 Today, you know, they talk about influences.
00:17:21.840 These are influences, and they're friends of mine, Jack Posobiec.
00:17:27.760 Where's Jack?
00:17:28.720 Jack?
00:17:29.740 He's done a great job.
00:17:33.660 Okay, we're back here.
00:17:34.980 Jack Posobiec.
00:17:35.640 We're live now on Real America's Voice.
00:17:37.540 We've got the Salem Radio Network in with third hour of the Charlie Kirk audience.
00:17:42.000 I want to go bring in, and live from the White House, we've got Amanda Head from Real America's Voice. 1.00
00:17:47.120 Amanda, you were just in there with Secretary General Root as well as President Trump.
00:17:54.040 Vladimir Putin also expected to meet with Whitcoff, the special envoy to Moscow, just within a few minutes.
00:18:03.620 Talk to me about the importance of the stakes of the meeting that was held today and the importance of this ceasefire that is pending.
00:18:10.460 Yeah, you know, President Trump has tasked both Whitcoff and Secretary of State Marco Rubio with some big responsibilities.
00:18:19.740 I mean, you imagine the cost of having to go overseas and carry on a conversation that has, as you just pointed out, such huge implications.
00:18:27.060 And it seems that the negotiations have gone well and that, you know, I always think of President's comments about Putin in a particular way.
00:18:36.900 And there might not be people who understand this because they're not from Alabama.
00:18:39.840 But, Jack, you know I went to Auburn, and I'm a huge Auburn fan.
00:18:43.040 And when I talk about Nick Saban and I talk about how, you know, what a legend he was at Alabama, what a skilled tactician of a football coach he was,
00:18:51.400 it's not because I like the guy, but I'm not stupid, and I could admit that he has strengths.
00:18:57.020 That is how it is when President Trump talks about Vladimir Putin.
00:19:00.640 It would be very, very stupid to underestimate Vladimir Putin and to not point out how strategic he is.
00:19:06.740 And with regards to that strategy, you know, this is something that a few weeks ago I observed in the Oval Office when President Trump had that meeting with Zelensky.
00:19:16.300 Zelensky, you know, for whatever you want to call it, an episode, an outburst, whatever, it actually made Vladimir Putin look like the reasonable one here.
00:19:26.120 So I anticipate that this is going to go in a smooth direction.
00:19:30.320 You know, history has taught us, Jack, during President Trump's first term and now, that when peace is on the table, President Trump is the one who typically gets it done.
00:19:40.440 Incredible work, Amanda.
00:19:42.020 Amanda, thank you so much for being there, for covering this, for being the voice of the people, and to Real America's Voice also for supporting you to be able to put you right there in the White House.
00:19:53.240 President Trump breaking the fourth wall and bringing all of the American people in.
00:19:57.340 Thanks so much, Amanda.
00:19:59.640 Thanks, Jack.
00:20:00.380 Good to see you.
00:20:01.940 You as well, as always.
00:20:03.660 Okay, so folks, we have to understand, this is high-stakes negotiations.
00:20:09.820 President Trump meeting with Secretary General Root of NATO, also on the same day that he is sending Witkoff over to Moscow, Witkoff to sit down with Putin also.
00:20:22.180 But Putin isn't alone, because what has he done?
00:20:24.540 He's brought over President Lukashenko of Belarus.
00:20:27.700 They're there in the Kremlin.
00:20:28.940 We don't know if Lukashenko will take part in this meeting with Putin, but there's a lot of moving parts to all of this.
00:20:36.040 Zelensky, of course, meeting with Rubio and Waltz down in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
00:20:40.000 I want to bring in now Gavin Wax of the New York Young Republicans.
00:20:44.100 Gavin, when we look at all the moving pieces of this, people say, wow, there's so much going on all at once.
00:20:52.200 This is a tightrope act.
00:20:53.560 But this is exactly what President Trump was intending all along, isn't it?
00:20:58.940 Oh, absolutely.
00:20:59.900 I mean, I think President Trump has been masterfully maneuvering this conflict, this war that he inherited.
00:21:07.260 He's forcing both sides to the table.
00:21:09.280 We've seen more movement towards a resolution, towards peace in the past few weeks than we have in the past few years.
00:21:17.200 Obviously, this is a very difficult conflict.
00:21:19.040 It's a conflict that goes back, you know, well over a decade, back to 2014.
00:21:23.760 And there's many elements here.
00:21:25.300 There's a lot of, you know, bloodshed and blame to go around.
00:21:29.800 But I think President Trump is navigating this as masterfully as one could hope.
00:21:34.960 And I think we are in the precipice of achieving some real peace in Europe in our time, to quote, I guess, Neville Chamberlain.
00:21:43.340 But in this case, I think we're actually going to hopefully achieve some tangible peace and bring an end to this conflict so we can work on our domestic revitalization program and work on reshifting the focus towards China, the CCP, and our real geostrategic foes in the East.
00:21:59.380 Look, and President Trump has this all lined out.
00:22:04.280 This is what it's all about.
00:22:05.480 We've got, by the way, live shots of Red Square there in Moscow right now.
00:22:09.860 That is, of course, the Kremlin Palace, the complex where Steve Wyckoff is expected.
00:22:15.260 And I'm checking.
00:22:16.120 I've got a, you know, a live feed up as well.
00:22:18.560 So Putin just taking that meeting with Lukashenko of Belarus will soon be meeting.
00:22:24.360 We're told within potentially within minutes, potentially within the hour as we're live here with Wyckoff to discuss the opening salvo of these conditions.
00:22:35.100 We've got more on these conditions.
00:22:36.600 We're going to go to a quick break because we're going to take a quick commercial timeout.
00:22:41.580 But I want people to understand what Gavin Wax will also help explain.
00:22:45.260 This is completely interconnected.
00:22:48.260 It is completely interconnected between the tariffs, the winding down of a globalist American empire, the winding down of the wars, and setting America on a footing for peace and prosperity for the American worker and the American family first.
00:23:05.300 We'll be right back with more human events daily here live on this incredibly historic occasion.
00:23:18.260 We'll be right back with more.
00:23:48.260 All right, Jack Posobiec, here we are back.
00:23:52.000 Human events daily.
00:23:52.940 We're really tracking.
00:23:54.480 We've got the live from Russia live shot there.
00:23:56.840 We're tracking this huge meeting between President Trump, Secretary General Mark Root of NATO, as well as we're waiting for.
00:24:06.320 And it's currently it's currently evening in Russia.
00:24:09.040 It's about 930 p.m.
00:24:10.880 So there's seven hours ahead of East Coast time here in Washington from us.
00:24:16.220 And we're still waiting to see if Whitcoff will be meeting with President Trump or excuse me, President Putin.
00:24:22.160 We are told that meeting has not yet begun or if it has begun.
00:24:26.560 It has not come out publicly yet.
00:24:29.960 Gavin, we've got about one minute until we rejoin with radio.
00:24:33.640 What are the stakes here?
00:24:34.660 Can you just run us through the stakes in one minute?
00:24:37.400 Well, I mean, the stakes are nuclear war.
00:24:39.480 I mean, that's really what, you know, this is all about.
00:24:42.420 And thank God we have President Trump in office who understands what the stakes are, who understands what we're up against and what the possibilities are.
00:24:51.080 You know, we have so many children, so many, you know, entitled, obnoxious children running things in Europe and who are running things in our country previously.
00:24:58.640 And they were pushing the world closer to nuclear Armageddon than it's ever been before since maybe the height of the Cold War.
00:25:05.140 So we need to be realistic.
00:25:06.700 We need to be pragmatic.
00:25:07.460 We need to embrace real politic, recognizing we're in a multipolar world order and recognizing that this is a conflict that needs to come to an end.
00:25:14.480 And we need to put the egos and the pettiness and the whims of some leaders in Europe aside for the sake of world peace.
00:25:25.100 And that means peace in Ukraine, peace between Ukraine and Russia, and thus peace on the global stage.
00:25:31.160 Folks, this is huge.
00:25:38.380 This is the world stage.
00:25:39.780 This is MAGA world peace.
00:25:41.040 We're going to take one second.
00:25:41.940 I want to bring in the radio audience now.
00:25:44.000 Bear with us because we need to get everyone in on this.
00:25:47.500 And Jack, where is Jack?
00:25:50.220 Where is Jack?
00:25:52.540 Where is he?
00:25:53.820 Jack, I want to see you.
00:25:57.480 Great job, Jack.
00:25:58.900 Thank you.
00:25:59.440 What a job you do.
00:26:01.160 You know, we have an incredible thing.
00:26:02.500 We're always talking about the fake news and the bad.
00:26:04.800 But we have guys.
00:26:06.340 And these are the guys who should be getting politicians.
00:26:09.820 All right, Jack Posobiec.
00:26:11.000 Here we are back.
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00:27:29.840 Okay, folks, so we're getting some words.
00:27:32.020 Sky News dropping some analysis out.
00:27:35.760 Ivor Bennett, who was their Moscow correspondent over there, saying, in his view, Putin doesn't appear to show any signs of compromise.
00:27:44.920 I just want to read this from Sky News.
00:27:46.720 It says, Vladimir Putin was never going to flat-out reject the U.S. proposal for a ceasefire, but he also wasn't going to fully endorse it.
00:27:54.900 If he does agree, if Russia does agree, it will come with strings attached.
00:27:58.720 The Kremlin leader didn't specify Moscow's demands, but he did allude to them by saying that the peace deal had to eliminate, quote, the root causes of the conflict.
00:28:09.360 It became a frequent refrain of his and shows that Moscow's maximalist position hasn't changed.
00:28:15.660 This is, of course, referring to NATO's eastward expansion, which he blames as the catalyst for the war in Ukraine.
00:28:21.020 And, of course, by the way, it also, and we have a little bit of a readout here as well, they were talking about, Putin was talking about the fact that there are 1,200 miles of front line currently in the Ukraine war between Russia and Ukraine.
00:28:37.500 That's about the distance from New York to Miami, almost the entire east coast.
00:28:42.020 And he's also asking questions about who's going to guarantee the ceasefire, who's going to monitor the agreement for violations, what is the authority, is there an international peace, is it censors, how does it work, drones, et cetera.
00:28:55.500 And, of course, Vladimir Putin visiting Kursk, the region, just a few hours ago, really just yesterday, wearing fatigues for the first time since the war began, and donning those after a just strong, very strong Russian victory in the Kursk region, mirroring, of course, though on a much smaller scale, the great Battle of Kursk in World War II, which has fought over the very same terrain.
00:29:23.540 Although, in that case, we had upwards of 2.2 million soldiers, both from the Nazis and the Soviets combined, as well as about 6,000 armored vehicles, 6,000 tanks.
00:29:35.340 And so I want to bring Gavin Wax back in here.
00:29:37.720 Gavin, President Trump, I think, understands the overall peace picture here and understands that ultimately the biggest players in this are not NATO and Ukraine, the way the media would have us believe, but it really kind of does come down to a proxy fight between the U.S. and Russia.
00:29:57.600 Is that right?
00:29:58.140 Yeah, absolutely.
00:30:00.380 I think he understands that this is great power politics, and really the only two state actors that matter are the United States and Russia.
00:30:09.120 And I think the Russians recognize that.
00:30:11.220 I think the Europeans are obviously upset about that.
00:30:13.800 But at the end of the day, they're pretty much vassal states of the United States at this point.
00:30:17.840 They don't really have any military capabilities to speak of.
00:30:21.960 Their economy is a fraction of what ours is, and they may be trying to recreate a European Grand Army under Macron and trying to revitalize German military industry.
00:30:34.780 But this is all far too little, far too late.
00:30:38.120 They were never in a position to be dictating the terms of this conflict, certainly not the terms of peace.
00:30:43.580 This was always going to be a discussion between the United States and Russia or a man-to-man between President Trump and Putin.
00:30:50.620 And that's what we're beginning to see.
00:30:51.900 And I think, look, as time goes on, it's becoming clear that this conflict is unwinnable for the Ukrainians and the position of the West and the position the United States needs to be.
00:31:03.200 How do we come to the table and get the best possible deal for both Ukraine and the West?
00:31:09.660 And I think that's what we're going to have to discuss at the negotiating process.
00:31:12.680 There are obviously some red lines that Russia and Putin have drawn, and where they're willing to acquiesce and where they're not is going to be determined through this process.
00:31:22.540 But at least we're having this process, which in and of itself is a massive development from the past few years of no communication, no talks, and no sign of peace on the horizon.
00:31:32.680 Well, and that's really what it's all about, because this is something where, look, I think a lot of people were saying, oh, you know, Putin's going to agree to the ceasefire, and this is going to, you know, the ball's in his court, and he's going to agree right away.
00:31:45.740 But when it really comes down to it, that's not how these types of negotiations usually work.
00:31:50.640 Typically, with negotiations like this, at the end of any big conflict, you're going to have the leaders get together.
00:31:57.100 You're going to have, of course, a framework that will be agreed to by the envoys.
00:32:02.380 So that's Mark Root from the NATO side.
00:32:06.020 That's Witkoff going to the Russians to get their information.
00:32:10.980 That's Lavrov putting out his process.
00:32:13.280 That's also, by the way, the Secretary of State and Walt's meeting with the Ukrainians and their interlocutors there in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
00:32:22.200 But this really isn't going to come into effect until we see a meeting between the leaders of the United States, the leaders of Russia, and the leaders of Ukraine.
00:32:32.500 And who knows, right?
00:32:33.820 Who knows how that's going to look or even where that would take place.
00:32:37.000 Now, I think one of the reasons, personally, that they can't use Istanbul anymore is that Erdogan has turfed himself out because he's taken so much of a line with the Ukrainians in terms of this that Putin doesn't necessarily look at him as an impartial player in the conflict.
00:32:51.540 He's someone who's been completely on board with NATO, obviously being a NATO member, but also completely on board with the Ukrainian war effort and selling those Bayraktar drones and so many others.
00:33:01.980 Of course, he can point to keeping the Dardanelles closed and the Bosphorus, the lines to the Black Sea and keeping with the Montreux Treaty from the early 1900s, World War I era treaty.
00:33:11.620 But at the end of the day, he's taken a side in the conflict.
00:33:14.900 So that's why they're going down to Saudi Arabia for all of this, because the Saudis, if anything, haven't really taken a side one way or the other.
00:33:23.380 So they've got they've got the ability to be neutral ground.
00:33:26.740 But when it really all comes to the same by the same deal with, by the way, with pretty much everywhere in Europe, with the exception of like, I don't know, Hungary.
00:33:33.580 And so the the idea of moving forward, then, is if we're going to see a piece and Gavin, let's let's let's even pull it back even further.
00:33:40.980 Let's pull it back way further, because President Trump and I keep saying this, the tariffs are connected to the foreign policy, the tariffs, NATO, foreign policy, our relationship with Europe.
00:33:53.320 It's all deeply interconnected.
00:33:56.200 And we've been talking about this here on Human Events Daily.
00:33:59.040 The media is never going to get this.
00:34:01.260 I think this goes honestly.
00:34:02.460 Gavin, you've talked to reporters the way I do.
00:34:04.160 This stuff goes right over their heads.
00:34:05.820 They have no idea.
00:34:06.800 They look at one lane is economic.
00:34:08.740 One lane is military.
00:34:09.740 They can't actually see the connection.
00:34:12.360 What President Trump is trying to do is wind down the globalist American empire project. 0.81
00:34:18.180 Isn't that right?
00:34:19.500 No, that's absolutely correct.
00:34:21.020 It's all interconnected.
00:34:22.160 And I think President Trump and Vice President J.D.
00:34:25.180 Vance are making it clear that our alliances, our treaty obligations, our relationships with other states are based on mutual benefit.
00:34:33.500 They're based on a transaction.
00:34:35.600 They're based off of a two-way street.
00:34:37.920 And for far too long, it's been a one-way street with the Europeans saying, gimme, gimme, gimme, and the United States giving, giving, giving, and not really getting much back in return.
00:34:47.120 We see that on trade where they have prevented a whole litany of American products from effectively being imported in to the European Union.
00:34:56.560 And now, of course, the Europeans are crying bloody murder when President Trump suggests reciprocal tariffs and suggests a reevaluation of our trade relationship with Europe.
00:35:07.260 They also cry bloody murder when J.D. Vance, Vice President J.D. Vance, brings up very key failings of these European nations in terms of preserving the civil liberties of their people as it relates to censorship, as it relates to political imprisonment, and a whole litany of other key issues that many Americans have been very disappointed to see develop, whether in the United Kingdom or continental Europe.
00:35:31.020 So, again, these relationships are really not based anymore on shared values because the European values have taken a nosedive into the tyrannical, sadly, in recent years.
00:35:42.300 And obviously now, as it pertains to the military end of things, President Trump has long been consistent in demanding that the Europeans pay their fair share for their own defense, particularly as it relates to their contractual obligations to NATO.
00:35:55.220 They've long tried to circumvent those requirements and have the United States pay for their defense while they could pay for their own welfare states and pay to subsidize industries that compete with the United States, while at the same time not allowing us to export into Europe or export into Europe, rather.
00:36:13.820 So all of these things are coming to a head.
00:36:17.020 We're seeing a complete geopolitical realignment in action.
00:36:20.400 We're seeing President Trump, you know, reevaluate everything on the table.
00:36:25.860 Nothing is just going to be the status quo for the sake of being the status quo.
00:36:30.080 We need better trade relationships.
00:36:31.980 We need better military allies.
00:36:34.040 We need peace.
00:36:34.860 Otherwise, President Trump will not be able to achieve his massive domestic agenda as it relates to the economy, as it relates to the border, as it relates to cultural and traditional values of rejuvenation of the American Republic.
00:36:47.460 We need peace in Europe to do that, and we also need to geopolitically realign towards Asia, towards the Asia Pacific, to China, which is our main geopolitical foe, both economically and militarily.
00:37:02.340 We've seen the actions of the CCP domestically far outweigh anything that the Russians have supposedly done or any other state in Europe or elsewhere, for that matter.
00:37:14.860 It remains that China, under the CCP, has been our main adversary, buying up tons of land across the United States, strategic farmland.
00:37:22.840 I know the Trump administration is looking into that.
00:37:25.300 They've flooded our schools and universities with effectively CCP spies and agents, getting American education to then bring back to China or to infiltrate our own institutions in corporate America. 0.77
00:37:37.480 We've seen Chinese spies operate in the U.S. government, in the U.S. military, recently having been indicted for selling state secrets.
00:37:46.740 We've seen some of those Chinese student visa holders engage in espionage near U.S. military bases.
00:37:53.160 We've seen the CCP run an underground police station in lower Manhattan to spy on U.S. nationals and Chinese dissent.
00:38:03.060 It's completely wild.
00:38:04.900 It's completely wild, and we need to make this ā€“
00:38:06.760 They've gone after Shen Yun of all groups. 0.98
00:38:10.240 You know, it's a Chinese dance troupe.
00:38:11.920 They've tried to have their tax status revoked.
00:38:13.020 Right, and they used to the traditional dance, the traditional dance folks.
00:38:16.620 Well, you know, Jack.
00:38:17.600 You know, you know, the Cultural Revolution, Mao's Cultural Revolution.
00:38:21.020 That's what they're trying to export.
00:38:22.120 They're trying to stomp out any traditional culture, Chinese traditional culture, obviously Western traditional culture. 0.99
00:38:26.180 Right, because they dug up the emperors and put them on trial again.
00:38:30.600 Ridiculous.
00:38:31.140 Gavin Wax, where can people follow you, brother?
00:38:33.740 At Gavin Wax, you can follow me.
00:38:35.640 I just published a piece, Daily Caller.
00:38:37.560 Check it out.
00:38:38.220 Pollution tariffs on China.
00:38:39.440 We need it now.
00:38:41.460 China, China, China.
00:38:43.740 We'll be right back, folks.
00:38:44.760 Human Events Daily.
00:38:53.720 Jack is a great guy.
00:38:55.300 He's written that fantastic book.
00:38:56.980 Everybody's talking about it.
00:38:58.160 Go get it.
00:38:59.320 And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
00:39:02.780 Pat, we're going to turn it around and make sure our country quite a good time.
00:39:06.560 Amen.
00:39:08.600 As for readiness of Ukraine for the ceasefire, I'll tell you my estimation of this.
00:39:17.680 But first of all, I would like to thank the President of the United States for paying so much attention
00:39:29.440 to regulating the conflict in Ukraine.
00:39:32.260 Of course, we all have lots of current issues to deal with.
00:39:39.660 And the Chairman of China and the Prime Minister of India and heads of states of Brazil and South Africa,
00:39:50.300 they are dealing with this issue and they are paying a lot of attention to this.
00:39:54.800 And we're grateful for this.
00:39:57.080 And we're hoping that their activity, we understand that their activity is aimed at reducing loss of human life in the conflict.
00:40:09.000 When I'm working long hours, I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
00:40:17.540 All right, Jack Posobiec, we're back live.
00:40:19.200 Human Events daily.
00:40:20.440 We're on Real America's Voice, also bringing in Hour 3, Charlie Kirk Show on the Salem Radio Network.
00:40:25.940 I want to bring in now Kenny Cody, who is the brand new opinion editor over at humanevents.com.
00:40:33.220 Congratulations to you, Kenny.
00:40:34.920 But of course, we're hitting the ground running because today we're in the midst of these live developments.
00:40:41.280 We're living through the fourth turning.
00:40:44.120 The fourth turning is in full swing as we await President Putin's meeting with Steve Witkoff,
00:40:50.380 the envoy there in Moscow, just after President Trump made his comments in the White House.
00:40:56.240 We've gone from the White House to New York.
00:40:58.880 We're now covering Moscow.
00:41:00.320 We're waiting for this, Putin already making a statement saying he's interested in the ceasefire,
00:41:05.160 but he wants to get more specifics on that.
00:41:09.720 Kenny Cody, what is your sense on the stakes of this?
00:41:13.660 And guys, let's get that live shot of Moscow up so people can see that this is going to be happening very, very soon here.
00:41:20.640 Kenny, what is your sense of the stakes of this and what President Trump specifically campaigned on?
00:41:26.120 Well, I didn't know it would be this soon, but this has the opportunity to be the biggest foreign policy accomplishment of the Trump presidency.
00:41:33.840 Him bringing these stakeholders to the table and discussing a ceasefire, discussing peace in the most publicized conflict there is in the world currently,
00:41:43.180 involving a world superpower and a country that has garnered and got foreign aid from about every country in the world,
00:41:50.300 fighting against Russia.
00:41:51.300 So I think this has the potential to be a huge accomplishment for the Trump presidency.
00:41:56.220 And more importantly, it's going to save the lives of United States soldiers, going to save the lives of Ukrainian soldiers,
00:42:01.380 wrestlers from a continuing conflict that we all know how it's going to end up.
00:42:06.120 This is a continuing conflict.
00:42:07.660 It's continuing fire.
00:42:09.000 It's continuing the loss of life.
00:42:10.180 And this is the entire idea that Trump campaigned on.
00:42:13.820 It's not a world peace.
00:42:15.120 It's peace through strength.
00:42:16.940 We are not going to let Zelensky come to our country and bully our vice president and our president. 1.00
00:42:21.060 We're not going to let him come into the office and keep on begging for money when he's showing no gratitude.
00:42:26.040 We're not going to let Putin continue to run over Donald Trump like he did Joe Biden.
00:42:31.320 This is a different president with a different foreign policy strategy.
00:42:34.160 And this peace through strength, foreign policy ideology, prioritizing anti-interventionism, but also strong arming those world leaders that are intimidated by Donald Trump,
00:42:43.980 is exactly why he won the presidency and why he can bring world peace to both Ukraine, Russia, and the rest of the world.
00:42:50.140 This could be the potential to be the most important foreign policy to develop in the history of the two Trump presidents.
00:42:56.040 And, Kenny, real quick, I want to come in here with some breaking news because, according to Ukrainian media, we're just getting reports out of this,
00:43:05.100 there were a lot of questions about the ceasefire declaration, that joint statement that was put out by the Ukrainian negotiators and the U.S.,
00:43:12.580 but we're also getting a back brief, or it looks like Ukrainian media did, according to European Pravda out of Ukraine,
00:43:19.100 that their delegation in Saudi Arabia refused to agree to give up NATO membership aspirations as part of their ceasefire conditions.
00:43:32.060 And they called it, according to this, a red line for Ukraine that it cannot be removed from the agenda.
00:43:39.880 So, Kenny, you know, you've been watching this stuff.
00:43:42.380 I've been watching this stuff.
00:43:43.620 This is going to be a huge point of contention.
00:43:45.940 Of course, that's why President Trump's got the secretary general there in the Oval Office today,
00:43:50.240 because he, I'm sure, has already been briefed by Witkoff and Rubio that the Ukrainians refused to drop this NATO aspiration from it.
00:43:59.300 And so he's probably going to have to go to NATO now and say, look, if these guys won't give it up, we're going to have to drop the hammer,
00:44:04.900 because at the end of the day, it's the United States that's footing the bill for NATO.
00:44:09.400 And sure, I'm sure lots of countries want to join NATO, but that ain't exactly how it works, is it, Kenny Cody?
00:44:15.060 No, since 2017, Donald Trump has advocated that the United States foots the bill for every European country and every member of NATO.
00:44:23.360 Europe has far too long attempted to make the United States pair an unfair share and an unfair amount of effort
00:44:30.580 into giving countries like Ukraine foreign aid, weapons, and whatever else they need and catering to them.
00:44:37.920 And Democrat politicians and neoconsertive politicians have continued that funding and continued that backing.
00:44:43.260 So finally, the United States is going to have to draw a line in the sand and say, look, this is not going to happen.
00:44:49.440 We're not going to continue to funnel money into the military industrial complex, funnel money into these foreign countries who want this war to continue.
00:44:56.460 Because make no mistake, there is a lot of Europe who wants this war to continue, but the United States is going to have to stand up.
00:45:02.680 Rubio and everybody, Witkoff and everybody else are going to have to say, this cannot happen.
00:45:06.560 We have got to have peace.
00:45:08.180 We've got to stop this right now and not let Ukraine be the arbiters of this negotiation. 0.94
00:45:13.380 And remember, they are the ones, like when Trump said that they don't have the cards, they still do not have the cards.
00:45:18.240 They cannot be in charge of this peace negotiation.
00:45:21.480 This has to be equal on all grounds, including the United States, considering how much stakes and how many billions of dollars we've sent both of these countries to continue this war.
00:45:29.660 Yes, the United States and NATO are huge actors in this.
00:45:33.340 And to say that they're not is just completely ridiculous.
00:45:35.620 And when the Russians talk about root causes, that's what they're talking about. 0.93
00:45:38.780 Folks, go follow Kenny Cody, the great new opinion editor on humanevents.com.
00:45:45.080 Go and make sure you're following him.
00:45:47.100 Kenny Cody, TN on X.
00:45:48.860 Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have our permission to lay a short.
00:45:50.480 We'll be right back.