Zelensky’s Last Stand - Can Ukraine Survive Until Trump’s Deadline For Russia？
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Jack Posobrand is a commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran. He is also a regular contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, NPR, and other media outlets. Jack has been a long-time friend and supporter of the Democratic Party, and now he s running for the 2020 presidential nomination.
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after Donald Trump blamed Ottawa for failing to cooperate.
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Russia hammered Kyiv with missiles and drones overnight, lighting up the sky over the Ukrainian capital.
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Residents waking up to the grim reality of more lives lost.
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says Russia fired more than 300 drones and eight missiles,
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Russian forces say they shot down 32 Ukrainian drones overnight.
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Russia? I think it's disgusting, what they're doing. I think it's disgusting.
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This is Biden's war. It's not my war. But I said, if I get in, I'll try and get the thing stopped.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily here live, Washington, D.C.
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We're seeing now political turmoil over in Ukraine as Russian forces continue to storm the eastern cities.
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We talked a lot last week, or throughout this week, about how Russian forces were taking the city of Pokrovsk on the eastern flanks,
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this being a key city that could potentially connect them down the highway directly to the Dnieper River and then on down to Kiev.
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We had Colonel Douglas MacGregor on yesterday talking about this.
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And now we wake up this morning and find that the battle, being told, that the battle for Chasav Yar has now ended in 17 months.
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I'll see some that say 16 months, 17 months, 18 months.
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An incredibly bloody battle amidst an incredibly bloody war.
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You're looking at places where these were firefights going house to house, building to building, apartment to apartment, balcony to balcony, basement to basement.
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And Russia is now saying that they have total control of the city of Chasav Yar.
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By the way, this was seen as a fortress of the east in the Donetsk region.
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This was seen as a place where they thought there was no way, no way that, or excuse me, Donbass region,
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the Russian troops would ever be able to take one of these fortress cities.
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And there are four of the fortress cities, Chasav Yar, which is the highest ground in Donetsk,
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and then the other three, Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, and Konstantinivka.
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And with this control, that's what's leading now to a lot of the political turmoil that you're seeing in Ukrainian parliament.
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Now, they're saying, okay, well, this is really just about this corruption bill, and there were these protests all throughout last week.
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I was in that building not long ago, back in February, when I traveled with Secretary Besant
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to visit Kiev on the heels of trying to get this mineral deal signed.
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It was then signed, and then, of course, Russia took the minerals.
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But huge argument that took place within the political situation.
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And what we're seeing, what you're seeing, essentially, is a situation where President Trump is out talking about the deaths,
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and people bring up disputes about the numbers.
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But what's really clear here, the situation in Ukraine is deteriorating.
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And if you actually care about Ukrainian citizens, and Ukrainian civilians, and just European people, Christian people, or just people in general,
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if you're going to be team humanity on this one, which we try to do around here on Human Events Daily,
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then you have to ask yourself, what is the fastest way to stop the killing?
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What is the fastest way to get this all to be shut down?
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I'm going to say it, and I've said over and over, it's direct talk.
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This isn't going to be solved until the United States and Russia sit down and have a serious adult conversation
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about not just Ukraine, but all of the U.S.-Russia issues,
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which go back to the Russiagate declassifications that we saw earlier this week.
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The war in Ukraine would not be starting right now
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if this aggressive foreign policy of Victoria Nuland and Hillary Clinton
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and using the perfidy and the lies with which they embarked on this.
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But the Sydney, the Sweeneypocalypse, the Sweeneypocalypse continues.
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And all, it seems, of left-wing social media is just absolutely erupted in terms of this.
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Some of it, I think, is a little bit performative,
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but I think some of it is actually quite earnest.
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One advertisement by a blonde-haired, blue-eyed young woman
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And they also claim that it is political, which is very interesting.
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So I wanted to bring on Evita Duffy, who we all love, my favorite anti-communist,
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Evita, I have to ask, what color are your jeans?
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I mean, you can't, apparently, if you're a white person, you can't have good jeans.
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That's what the left-wing outrage mob is saying in reaction to this entire ad, right?
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If you are a white person, you're blonde with blue eyes,
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that somehow means that you're not able to brag about your genetics,
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which is actually, in and of itself, extremely racist.
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Yeah, what's interesting to me, and I was talking about this yesterday
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on Thought Crime with Charlie Kirk and the gang,
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and I said, wait a minute, she doesn't mention anything about race.
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She says, and everybody knows this, by the way, eye color, hair color,
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It is all genetic, passed on from parents to their children.
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We should, hopefully, learn this when we're in grade school or high school.
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But even then, you can also just see it in real life.
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Grandparents look like they're—it's very simple.
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And so she never once said anything about, like, you know,
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one group is better than another group because of their genes,
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And, I mean, Jack, if you look at me, right, I have dark hair and dark eyes,
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and I don't think Sidney Sweeney would disagree with that.
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It's really not even about race, but because it's a blonde, a blue-eyed person,
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they made it about race because they hate white people.
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And the other thing I'll say, Jack, is I think that they just hate beauty.
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The theologians, Catholic theologians like Thomas Aquinas have talked about this,
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If you look at the Fibonacci sequence or the golden ratio,
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and for some reason, the political left, postmodernists especially, seem to hate beauty.
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And I actually think that this point, Jack, transcends race,
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because if you look at the types of black women that the left tries to applaud,
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There's a statue in Times Square of a black woman.
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She's not an exceptionally beautiful black woman.
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and there's also, I think, a hatred of beauty and femininity
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at the core of this entire outrageous reaction to the Sidney Sweeney ad.
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Yeah, I mean, it's completely ridiculous because what they're doing,
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and you go back to what American Eagle was posting in 2019
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People were looking at it, and they spent billions of dollars,
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and not just American Eagle, but various companies,
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And they were just over and over and over, we were living in that world.
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Look, there's a reason that people from all around the world go to visit Rome,
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and this stuff that was designed 2,000 years ago on classical designs is amazing.
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Everybody goes there because it is objectively incredible,
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By the way, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that President Trump,
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since you mentioned classic design there for a second,
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Catholic classic design is exactly who was chosen to do this new huge remodel of the White House,
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the eastern wing of it, really transforming it into a ballroom.
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But we're kind of talking about the same thing.
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They say, well, how does that relate to Sidney Sweeney?
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We're talking about the same thing, though, aren't we?
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Because what the left will do, the postmodernists will do,
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And so you can't say that the Sistine Chapel is more beautiful than a shamanistic little altar in Guatemala.
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But, of course, there is a hierarchy to beauty.
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You're right with all of these ads saying fat is beautiful.
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These brutalist, awful buildings that, by the way,
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oftentimes are funded by our tax dollars, especially in Washington, D.C.
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There's a distinction between the older architecture and the newer stuff that's come out.
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And they shut it down our throats for a few years.
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no, there is an order and objectivity to beauty.
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Whether that applies to women in dress or it applies to architecture,
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And the fact that American Eagle, a brand that really just cares about dollars and cents,
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is a really positive sign that we are actually making strides.
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And I also think it's funny that they would do things like this, right?
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And then people like us would go on social media.
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And they would say, oh, look how upset you are.
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It is a political propaganda campaign that you are trying to foist upon all of us
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on our eyes, on our ears, on our minds, on our children.
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You are the one spreading this around everywhere.
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And you're spending millions, in some cases, billions of dollars to do this.
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And by the way, I just got to say, you know, it's like they spent millions of dollars and
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they were not able to stop young men from liking girls who look like Sidney Sweeney.
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No, and Jack, if you look at the people that subscribe to this ideology, the ones that buy
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in and believe that beauty and morality are all subjective and everything is relative,
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The least happy demographic in this country are single left-wing women.
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And I think if you just look at who is happy and who's thriving, it is the people that embrace
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tradition, that believe in objective truth and morality and the Western tradition.
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And this is actually what the culture is swinging back toward, which I think is a wonderful,
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Yeah, that's one thing where I'll always say that it's interesting being married to,
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and you've met Tanya, but, you know, being married to someone from outside of the West,
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So she's not born with all of these like rules and conditions that we have to be, that
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we have to live under, you know, don't you dare tell someone that they don't look good.
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Don't you dare say that, you know, this, this person is good looking, where she'll just
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Not like to their face, but you know what I mean?
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Whereas in, in the West, I feel like we are mentally programmed and conditioned to believe
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And you could say leftism, you can say leftist politics, but what it really comes down to
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What it really comes down to is taking the sin of envy, one of the seven deadly sins, and
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They want to take the Sydney Sweeney's of the world and destroy them.
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And Jack, it's like, what are they telling young women, especially, right?
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You can be obese and you can wait and prolong marriage until you're in your thirties or even
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And it's supposed to, it's pitched as this idea that's so great for women.
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And of course, they're not looking out for them.
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They're actually the enemies of these women who buy into this ideology and then turn out
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I mean, they are, I mean, left-wing women, frankly, are victims of a culture that has
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And I think if you look at Sydney Sweeney, you're like, oh, this is fascist.
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Maybe, actually, it's a sign that you should hit the gym and look good and be your best
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It's like, I don't understand why we're telling young women who are in their prime, don't
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look good, don't dress well, don't self-present in a positive, beautiful way.
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It is totally detrimental to the culture, but of course, to the individuals who are susceptible
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That's exactly right, because there's two ways, right?
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When you see something like a Roman palace or a temple and you think, oh, my gosh, that's
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so credible, and you could think, why don't I live in a city like that?
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And you could think, well, maybe I could make my culture better, and maybe I could make my
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And so, so much of politics is really just that, trying to determine which side you're
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The more I think about this idea, I think it drives everything.
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It drives everything from the top to the bottom.
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It really is just envy and the hatred of the fact that, I'm sorry, natural ability exists.
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There are going to be people that look better than others.
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There are going to be people that are smarter than others.
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And these people, they just can't handle it, can they, Evita?
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And, Chuck, can I just say, beauty is uplifting.
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Like, well, I mean, we're talking about women, but I think the architecture point is so good
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We are, if you go around, if you walk around Washington, D.C., where we have a lot of public
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buildings, you will see the newer ones that are just awful and they're depressing and
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And then you look at the traditional architecture, which is actually rooted in, I think, the true
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tradition of the West, and it makes you feel happier.
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It broadens your horizons to where you're thinking about things beyond just like yourself and the
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Guys, go follow Vita, W underscore one, at X on all the platforms.
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We're on with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer joining us.
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Tony, thanks for coming back to the program once again.
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Well, Tony, look, you came on here, I think, four or five months ago.
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And you said that the end of July is what we were going to be looking for, for Russia to
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really close the trap when it comes to eastern Ukraine, those Russian speaking provinces.
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Not only across that major, major logistics hub cutting the supply lines for Ukraine there,
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but now Chasivyar, one of the key four, what they call the fortress cities of Ukraine, has
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now, and you can see this up, Reuters has it, CNN has it.
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They're saying this entire city, massive, really this, this, you know, and so much of
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But Chasivyar was one of the heights that's able to command huge swaths of land from up there.
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And yeah, Reuters, there it is with the piece, Russia claims capture of Chasivyar after 16
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Because they're not actually looking at the reality and the facts as they are.
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They're projecting their aspirational thinking as news.
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And I think we all, Jack, we have our political leanings, no doubt.
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We have our aspirations, but there has to be a separation, I think, for intelligence
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officers and reporters, just saying, where you can separate out your advocacy for a side
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And when we last spoke on this topic, you know, a few months ago, it's like I understood
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First, there was a diminishing supply, you know, logistic support from us.
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Those things in the supply chain were going to be more and more reduced.
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Secondly, there was no way Ukraine was going to be able to establish a pipeline of manning
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to continue to hold these fortress cities and maintain the defense.
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And again, the Russian process of combat and attrition has been effective.
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And there was nothing to stand in the way of that.
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And of course, third and most important, the Russians themselves have said, we're not going
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Putin has said, I think a number of officials have said, yeah, if we, if there's not a peace
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agreement, you're going to have to start worrying more about more than us taking the four provinces.
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And with the fall of these cities, Jack, nothing is going to be left in the way of the Russians,
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if they so choose, to go towards a complete partition of Ukraine, where they basically
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They don't want to deal with the Western side and the counterinsurgency they deal with.
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But they're more than happy to go into areas which they think they can control and have
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the population essentially respond favorably to their occupation or whatever you care to
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So these are the facts as they are, not as, as I think others to include the neocons here
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in the United States were, were projecting into the media and the media was reporting
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You know, and you see some of this stuff and then they'll come out and say, we need to
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What I've said is I don't think there's a military way out of this for Ukraine.
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Do you see one because at the end of the day, the only, the only option, of course,
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that which they could do, it's not a technological or an armament issue.
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So the only option then would be for NATO to get involved, which of course creates much,
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I said within the first three months of the war, if you go back and find some of those
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interviews, I probably did hear on your network and on Newsmax that there was never going
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to be a time that the Ukrainians would have any, anywhere near a numeric, even equivalent
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to the Russian available army, armed forces, the personnel.
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And I said, then there was no way that the Ukrainians would prevail without an outside
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And that would have to be either the European Union, which would be kind of a joke, but
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And that would be the only way there could be an effective countering of the numeric superiority
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So from day one, this was doomed, especially the way the Biden administration's kind of
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And that's what they were just kind of throwing things in there, hoping for the best.
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And so I think this, this has gone on longer than I expected.
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But with that said, the Russians have a great appetite for pain, for suffering, even though
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their economy may not be booming, it's not doing badly.
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They're shrugging off all the new 18th round of sanctions from the Europeans.
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Uh, there is no military solution that's available to the Ukrainians in this regard at this point.
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Yeah, I saw, uh, Putin was meeting with, uh, Lukashenko of Belarus today, and he was asked
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about, um, the fact that Zelenskyy is now calling for full regime change in Russia and saying
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And, and Putin's response was, well, I, I see that he's not interested in negotiating that's
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Because they're the ones who are pounding forward on the ground.
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It's, it's Zelenskyy who's running out of time.
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And I think that's basically what, uh, what he's playing at there.
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No, I think, I think at the end of the day, though, it's not going to be between Ukraine
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It's got to be between Russia and the United States.
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And I think the United States is kind of fed up with Zelenskyy.
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I, I, you know, there's rumors now, fairly well-informed, I think the financial times
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has done an article on the fact that the West is looking to dump, uh, Zelenskyy and that
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the Zeluzny, general Zeluzny, ambassador Zeluzny, who's currently the Ukrainian ambassador to
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the UK is kind of being looked at as the potential replacement, which by the way, he's on the cover
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of Vogue magazine is over doing a huge, huge photo spread with Zeluzny right now.
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I'll say, you know, and you have to wonder, you just have to wonder how, uh, how, uh,
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how Zelenskyy is taking a look at that and say, wait, why is he getting the vote cover?
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I don't know, Tony, that you've been spot on, man.
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Uh, we've got to run for this day, but I just wanted to give you that opportunity to pop
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back in here and give us the update and to point out that, Hey, you know, who had this
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Uh, you know, you and I are on there doing interesting things and project sentinel.com.
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I look forward to future discussions on what's coming.
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Now we're going to have to do a deep dive coming up soon.
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We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys.
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And these are the guys who should be getting Pulisic.
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New book is out from author John Lake for and co-authored by the great Peter McCullough.
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The title is Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
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This is a topic that the audience, of course, is very, very concerned with.
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So I think they're going to be absolutely interested in hearing about your new book.
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Of course, they're all going to want to go and get a copy.
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Tell us, why did you decide to write this book now?
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And what do you go into when we're talking about this question of where did vaccines come from?
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Peter McCullough and I have been working together for the last four years.
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We wrote our first book together about the initial stage of the pandemic response, the suppression of early treatment.
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We perceived that the suppression of early treatment for COVID-19 was a gambit to prepare the public, not just in the United States, but throughout the West.
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Australia, pretty much the whole world for a mass vaccination campaign using a new vaccine technology, this molecular biology gene transfer product, synthetic messenger RNA.
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Bill Gates came on a news program in April of 2020 in which he said mankind will only be able to go back to normal when essentially everyone on Earth receives the new COVID-19 vaccine.
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Which was remarkable because it had not even been developed and tested at the time.
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It was a kind of foregone conclusion in his mind that it would soon arrive.
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And then every man, woman and child on Earth would receive it.
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And there would be no reason for any exceptions to receiving this.
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And we noticed the way Mr. Gates was talking about it, it was as though this new vaccine, not yet developed, was going to appear like a liberator and a savior of mankind from this pestilence that had stricken the world.
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And we thought, this is such an extraordinary ambition that doesn't even seem particularly scientific.
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It almost seems to come out of science fiction.
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And there's an underlying zeal or even fanaticism that struck us as being almost religious in nature.
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So we asked ourselves, when did mankind become so charmed?
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When did mankind fall in love with vaccines, the vaccine concept?
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We went back to the first inoculation campaign, the smallpox outbreak in Boston, Massachusetts in 1721.
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The foremost advocate for smallpox inoculation was Cotton Mather.
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He was a famous Puritan minister in Boston at the time, consulting theologian for the Puritan, for the Salem witch trials.
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And Mather said, the new inoculation procedure is a gift from God.
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Those who don't reject God's benefaction are sort of reprobate.
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Everyone should accept this great blessing and benefaction from God.
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And from the early pronouncement of that in Boston in 1721, all the way until 2021, we document how vaccines do have this kind of metaphysical fascination for the human mind.
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And the enterprise is very much one of orthodoxy.
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And if you don't get it, if you raise any questions about it, then you shall be excommunicated.
00:32:25.620
You know, John, I just got to say, when you mentioned Bill Gates, it just brought me back.
00:32:31.220
I'm so and so many people are so upset about what Dr. Fauci did to this country.
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He he took this orthodoxy, this theology, and he pushed it upon everyone, specifically on mothers and their children.
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And I remember this time that I was I was at a pharmacy in Washington, D.C. on the Capitol Hill.
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And I had to I was just picking up some cough drops or something.
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And I saw this line of people with their kids and they would they would take them in the back.
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And these kids would be screaming about and they're all getting the shot.
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And and this this Fauci thing, the pardon, which obviously wasn't even signed by Joe Biden, it's it's all got to be looked at.
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And I really hope that this is something that when people read your book, it'll give them the ammunition to fight back about what he did to this country.
00:33:35.160
Well, I would add to that that something that's not yet understood by many is that we chapter is called the bio terror racket or the bio defense racket.
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And so the idea starting around, well, it really began with the emergence of the first SARS coronavirus and 2002, 2003, a sort of fascination with coronaviruses as having enormous pandemic potential influenza had failed to deliver yet another terrible pandemic.
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Like what we saw in 1918, there was a feeling that maybe influenza was not going to be the great terror that influenza specialists had been warning about for decades.
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And what we've discovered, and certainly Anthony Fauci was aware of it, was that it was really American biotechnicians.
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Ralph Barrett at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, being the most prominent and the most capable, began manipulating coronaviruses.
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And there's a long paper trail documenting this.
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And the idea is, we'll create a virulent coronavirus that is transmissible amongst humans in order to develop a vaccine countermeasure to get ahead of it.
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In the event that there should be a natural evolution of a coronavirus in nature, we'll tinker around with one in a lab, we'll have a vaccine ready to rock in the event that one should emerge in nature.
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But what we see, and we present the evidence of this, and it's very clear, is that it was actually these chimeric coronaviruses that Barrett and his colleagues at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, this was actually the causative agent.
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He played a considerable role in concealing the origin.
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At the same time as head of the NIAID, he was working with Moderna to create the vaccine against it.
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So it reminds me of when I was a boy, a friend of mine was kind of a hooligan.
00:36:03.420
He'd go around at night breaking sprinkler heads, and then he would present himself at the homes of these people with broken sprinkler heads and say,
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Hey, I noticed that your sprinkler heads broken, you know, I could repair it for you.
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Or somebody breaking glass and presenting himself the next day saying I could repair your window.
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I mean, that's a rather crass way of characterizing it.
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But this is the racket that we elucidate in our book.
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And I think the reader will be surprised at how clear the paper trail is on this.
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It sounds like a remarkable thing to say, but the evidence is clear.
00:36:48.560
And people need to understand that, you know, you're being sold this.
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You're being sold this, and you're being told in many cases.
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We couldn't take our kids out anywhere in the D.C. area.
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We couldn't travel, right, because you didn't take the shot.
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My children have never taken it, and they will never take it.
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But to go back and understand the orthodoxy of where this came and to just have a completely,
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by the way, an objective look at what was successful, what was not, and what this has turned into,
00:37:33.720
So, John, I'm so impressed at the fact that you were putting this story out now.
00:37:38.320
And, man, people like me who still have a huge axe to grind with Dr. Fauci and the fact that
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pardon, which is totally illegitimate, needs to be overturned.
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Tell people again the title and where they can go to get it.
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The title of the book is Vaccines, Mythology, Ideology, and Reality.
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It's already got over 100 Amazon five-star customer reviews.
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The managers of bookstores are still somewhat reluctant to stock this kind of book.
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And he's been my friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.
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And we're going to turn it around and make our country great again.
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All right, Jack Posobiec, we are back here, Human Events Daily, and we've got to talk about
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an incredible deed fraud scheme that actually targeted a home down in Houston that's now
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Vanessa Volbeck and Charles and Ronald Kelly are speaking out.
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In 2017, they inherited their late father's home with other relatives.
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They shared these videos of growing up in the home their dad proudly owned since the 60s.
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In 2019, when they decided to put the house up for sale, the family attorney said what happened
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They were approached by local fraudster and real estate mogul, Jerry Gurley.
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They received a poor offer from him, and they declined.
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Unfazed, Jerry Gurley, with the help of his notary, forged all six signatures of the family
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members onto the deed, filed into the property records, and with the help of the corrupt and
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now defunct Patriot Title Company, sold it to a bona fide third-party purchaser who bulldozed
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The home is gone with it generations of family history.
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Court documents show a judgment finding Gurley civilly liable in this case in order to pay
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That's why they're now asking Houston police to pursue criminal charges.
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That's exactly what we've been talking about for weeks and months here on this program.
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But thankfully, Natalie Dominguez is here to walk us through ways that not only that this
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takes place, but ways that you can protect yourself, your family, and your loved ones for
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But people keep telling me, this could never happen.
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How was this person able to do so, do this criminal act?
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It's clearly a criminal act, but do it so easily.
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As you saw in the video, so this guy was a real estate mogul.
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For the record, he's been accused of doing this, not just to this one home, but to multiple
00:41:16.520
And from what I understand, there is a current investigation going on.
00:41:21.020
The crazy thing is, you know, this guy came up to them, offered to buy their house, gave
00:41:27.160
One thing that we always tell people is, be very careful when you're being approached
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One thing that we see constantly with this type of fraud is that, unfortunately, we're
00:41:39.600
seeing a lot of people in the real estate industry with this knowledge and with this
00:41:45.300
My personal opinion, and, you know, obviously I can't prove this, allegedly, I don't think
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that he ever intended to actually purchase their home.
00:41:51.820
I think he was using this as a way to get personal information from them about the home's
00:41:57.460
A lot of that you can find online, but how much easier is it to actually go through this
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process of fraud when you have a little bit of the background information?
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So we're seeing a lot of these people in this industry, they're using their knowledge of
00:42:10.480
how easy this is to do and then commit this fraud, right?
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And then all it took was him getting a little bit of info from the family, a little bit of
00:42:17.820
info, you know, online about the house and who owns the property.
00:42:20.800
You walk into a county office with a piece of paper, signed, notarized, you can get a
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fake notary stamp, you can get a real notary stamp online for like 20, 30 bucks, file it
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with the county and then on record, you are now the owner of that home or whoever's fake
00:42:37.320
And then what happens is, let's say you're going to go take out loans or in this case,
00:42:41.340
what this man did was sell it behind their back.
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It doesn't matter if they're still technically legally the homeowner on record with the county
00:42:47.960
when a title company does a search and they're looking to make sure that you are the owner
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of the home to give you a loan or to secure a sale of the property.
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They're only looking at that document that is on record with the county.
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There's little to no authentication to file this paperwork.
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And then it becomes this giant legal mess to unwind.
00:43:06.780
I think it took this family, they're still in process, what, four, five, six years to get
00:43:10.860
this all, you know, finally where it's at right now.
00:43:16.560
So, and we're looking at this too, that when you look at it and it's basically that you're
00:43:22.500
talking about, I want to tease this out a little bit.
00:43:25.240
You're talking about people who are in the industry in some cases, not everyone, obviously,
00:43:30.280
but in some cases, people who are in the industry who understand how all this works will participate
00:43:35.820
in these schemes because they've got the inside knowledge of actually how easy it is.
00:43:44.520
I mean, when I say multiple, I mean, I get these reports every single day.
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We have multiple reports from the DOJ's office that are, you know, talking about these rogue
00:43:54.600
title companies, a lot of real estate brokers, real estate agents, people with knowledge in
00:44:00.580
We, I believe on your show, I've talked about a community organizer in Detroit, Michigan,
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who was taking advantage of her constituents, right?
00:44:10.680
Whose home she was actually supposed to be helping them stay in.
00:44:13.780
And then behind the scenes, her and people in her office were taking advantage and selling
00:44:20.900
So a lot of people with industry knowledge, Matt Cox, who you've had on your show, the criminal
00:44:24.400
that went to prison for this for 11 years and thankfully is reformed.
00:44:32.220
And that ended up on the run from the secret service for three years, millions of dollars
00:44:38.820
So as, as wild as this is, and it, and it goes through when people think like, you know,
00:44:43.800
it can't happen to us, you know, you obviously you have to do stuff with your home.
00:44:50.260
But what are some steps that people could take just to understand how that these schemes are
00:44:56.940
out there or even with understanding it, that they could get some kind of protection,
00:45:01.300
someone walking over their back to say, I don't want this to happen to me, or certainly
00:45:07.200
And, and I have to, by the way, can I just step back for a second here?
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Because even before I asked that question, it just occurred to me that AI, I have to
00:45:16.060
imagine that if, if AI is able to start making phone calls like this, you can use, you could
00:45:21.440
use AI and, and this is me just kind of spitballing here, clone somebody's voice.
00:45:26.780
And then you can even have that person sound like they're the ones making the phone call.
00:45:32.800
And suddenly that adds a whole other layer of this out there.
00:45:37.340
And, and I could think of another, a variety of it.
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And, and you could even have criminals, they could be overseas doing this.
00:45:50.420
We're getting, my dad literally yesterday said to me, I get 50 phone calls a day, scam
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But like you were talking about, you know, the steps you can take.
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AI has made everything a thousand times worse because it's now it's just so much easier.
00:46:11.420
And I think, especially in this post COVID world where everything is available online.
00:46:15.180
I mean, you can sell your house online without ever meeting a buyer in person, without ever seeing a
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notary, there's, I believe it's Florida, Florida, I believe during COVID and it's still going on.
00:46:25.440
You can get something notarized without even seeing the notary in person.
00:46:29.320
There's a checkbox on one of the sections of the, the notary notarization, like approval
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area that says that they like know the person, so they don't need ID to notarize it.
00:46:42.020
And that was, that was a side note, but that's wild to me that like someone could just check
00:46:46.160
It's totally, look, look, look, look, I'm looking at the time and I, and I really, I, I actually,
00:46:54.300
We'll have to book you for a longer time because this is so interesting, but folks,
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And no, it's not like anything we're talking about in the last segment.
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It's actually just a service called home title lock.
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00:47:23.100
And if anything does happen, they'll spend up, up to a million dollars to fix it.
00:47:33.560
You have security systems, monitor your property title.
00:47:48.020
And with AI and the scam calls, we did the whole, we did a whole show on it the other day,
00:47:53.740
So maybe, maybe if we tariff the call centers, that that could actually stop any instances
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Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay a short.