Impaulsive with Logan Paul - E332 Kevin O’Leary Trashes Logan Paul’s Company, Reveals Biggest Shark Tank Regrets

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00:02:12.280 And I finally said, yeah, can I help you?

00:02:13.760 He says, are you that guy on Shark Tank?

00:02:15.780 I said, yeah.

00:02:18.160 That it never happened before. 1.00

00:02:19.620 He said, you're an a**hole. 0.99

00:02:29.140 unique i know i'm having one of those days how now brown i'm having one of those type of days 0.99

00:02:33.960 should we should we record a program yeah let's do a show i just need the thumbs up from that

00:02:41.380 extremely good-looking italian man caleb behind the camera he gave me the thumbs up ladies and

00:02:47.800 gentlemen welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast in the world we have a very special

00:02:53.020 guest today a very special guest today he's the inventor of the funyun he's the doer of triathlons

00:02:59.020 His claim to fame is finding the pot of gold

00:03:01.580 At the end of the rainbow

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00:03:04.720 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Kevin O'Leary

00:03:06.840 Thank you, thank you

00:03:08.600 I really appreciate it

00:03:11.280 But just call him Mr. Wonderful, everybody else does

00:03:13.220 Mr. Wonderful, he didn't do any of those things

00:03:15.660 Unless you did invent the Funyun

00:03:17.320 No I didn't, but still

00:03:19.160 I like the Wonderful thing

00:03:20.280 Mr. Wonderful

00:03:21.160 Is that a Richard Milley on your wrist?

00:03:24.700 No, this is a hot new company

00:03:26.300 I'm huge in watches

00:03:27.520 there we go and uh you know i listen i don't own any equity in them they're just i just appreciate

00:03:33.460 the art of making great pieces eventy and they're out of australia and i always tell these young

00:03:39.320 watchmakers listen i'm very supportive uh but make me a single one-of-a-kind piece that i can

00:03:44.360 feature on shark tank and this is going to be this season's this is a crazy watch i mean and you're

00:03:50.840 not involved in the company no sometimes i just want to help the artist you know it's just i've

00:03:56.240 made lots of money and you know i want to give back a little bit here but people know me as a

00:04:00.220 watch guy and you know they really look at what i wear particularly on shark tank all around the

00:04:05.340 world i got the red band and so these days i got a lot of watches already and i say to all these

00:04:11.060 makers look i don't need another watch i try and wear four a day and i still can't get through

00:04:17.000 you know a tenth of the collection so i'm saying okay great make me one of a kind go to town make

00:04:23.900 something really unique i'll make it famous and then we'll auction it for charity you're a good

00:04:29.080 guy kevin hey listen i'm happy i mean these are wonderful happy to do it but you know these pieces

00:04:33.240 particularly in my classic rolex daytona red band white face steel that went for 65 000 and it all

00:04:40.640 went to charity that's very cool that is awesome what's your favorite watch that you own right now

00:04:45.140 i would say the picasso watchmaking is fp jorn there's no piece i own that's appreciated more

00:04:51.560 the last two years the guy is literally a living picasso you can't it's the the waiting list is

00:04:58.660 like years but i started collecting early because i recognize the genius of his dials like when you

00:05:05.060 see that piece what's he called i'm gonna look him fp journe fp any any piece you can get

00:05:10.080 is priceless and the secondary market's insane they're selling for like million two can you give

00:05:14.980 me one let me rephrase that can you give me one you know that ain't gonna happen i mean it's

00:05:21.420 I'm really this is that for me right now and I love all the pieces I've got but those things

00:05:27.100 are special these are nice these are nice it's cool that you got uh you got these passions I

00:05:31.640 mean it's always interesting to see what what people are into behind the scenes and I can

00:05:34.740 imagine how many watches you have you have any other passions like I'm sure you collect Pokemon

00:05:37.840 cards or something guitars I got a massive guitar collection I was a shareholder once in Fender

00:05:41.780 never made any money on the stock but I made a lot of money buying early strats and tellies and

00:05:48.020 those have been great

00:05:49.440 try and play as much as I can

00:05:51.200 all our social media

00:05:52.480 it's my tracks

00:05:53.240 because I don't like

00:05:54.200 getting all the trouble

00:05:54.940 with publishing rights

00:05:55.860 and everything

00:05:56.260 so I sit down

00:05:57.360 I've got a studio

00:05:58.020 and I just 0.95

00:05:58.640 dream shit up 0.97

00:06:00.020 that's it 1.00

00:06:00.880 you do so much

00:06:01.980 you do so much

00:06:03.320 I was with Mark Roberts

00:06:04.180 this morning

00:06:04.740 our mutual friend

00:06:06.040 he's like a stepdad to me

00:06:08.160 my Miami stepdad

00:06:09.860 tell him what he owns

00:06:11.880 tell the people what he owns

00:06:13.500 Mark Roberts owns 11

00:06:14.880 and a plethora of other things

00:06:16.780 real estate

00:06:17.200 and he's he's he's a business common man um and i i said yo what do i what do i ask kevin

00:06:23.740 you know and so uh he told me to ask you about your routine yeah well mark and i get up at the

00:06:30.100 same time 5 a.m 5 a.m and i work out for an hour right away um either i take my bike out on you

00:06:36.720 know on the causeway or i take a cruise down the beach or something or i hit the machines but

00:06:42.160 i'm reading stuff uh from five to six and then maybe i do a cnbc hit or something tomorrow i'm

00:06:49.200 going to do good morning america but i want to be i want to be wired by the time i'm on television

00:06:53.980 i want to be worked out and i want to feel you know healthy and he's the same way and that's

00:06:58.820 we sort of got to know each other around that routine and i just think it's a good way to live

00:07:03.760 because you get that time by yourself to do your stuff nobody bugs you nobody's up at five o'clock

00:07:09.480 I am. And, you know, and I do a lot of work in the Middle East now, and I'm doing stuff in Dubai and Abu Dhabi and all these international investments. And people work 24-7 anyways. So you can get a lot done.

00:07:22.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:07:22.580 What are you reading? What do you read?

00:07:23.960 I read research that's sent out to me because my biggest business is financial services.

00:07:30.360 And, you know, we make indexes for sovereign wealth and pension plans.

00:07:34.580 So I got to know what's going on in the financial markets.

00:07:36.800 But, you know, at this conference that we're all at here, Miami, crypto, Bitcoin 2022, for the first time on the first day, I looked out in the audience.

00:07:47.460 It was all the giant institutional investors.

00:07:50.920 They've never come to this conference.

00:07:53.580 Never.

00:07:53.960 And I started asking guys, what are you doing here? And they're saying, we sense the world's changing. We see the policy coming. We see these senators showing up here. We know they're going to make this thing investable. It's going to be huge.

00:08:07.700 We're going to make it.

00:08:08.560 Let's go.

00:08:09.420 We are going to make it.

00:08:11.600 I read 20% of your worth is in crypto now or your investments.

00:08:16.900 I've got 32 different positions on.

00:08:19.360 I'm very fortunate.

00:08:20.520 The way I look at it, and I think the best way to look at Bitcoin,

00:08:24.040 Bitcoin is not a coin.

00:08:25.580 It's software.

00:08:26.660 Ethereum software, Solana software, Helium software, Polygon is software.

00:08:32.300 They're software development teams.

00:08:33.480 They believe in what they're doing.

00:08:34.340 You don't.

00:08:35.000 If you like what they're doing, I like what the guys are doing at Polygon.

00:08:38.500 They're reducing gas fees by aggregating transactions.

00:08:41.260 Why wouldn't I put some dough into that?

00:08:42.800 It makes sense to me.

00:08:43.900 And so I met the team over in Dubai.

00:08:46.020 I said, guys, I got to get a piece of this.

00:08:47.860 And so I'm investing privately in these things.

00:08:49.780 I'm an investor in FTX.

00:08:51.440 I have to disclose I'm a paid spokesperson for FTX as well,

00:08:54.760 along with Tom Brady.

00:08:55.640 That's a good crew to be with.

00:08:56.640 Yeah, and so it's fun.

00:08:58.580 And I believe in what they're doing.

00:09:00.160 And so to me, this is the 12th sector of the S&P.

00:09:03.520 We just don't know it yet.

00:09:04.820 And in 10 years, you're going to wake up and say, wow,

00:09:07.260 we have 11 sectors.

00:09:08.300 Now we have 12.

00:09:09.500 It's such a big part of the economy.

00:09:12.040 Do you think it would replace that something?

00:09:14.040 No, I don't think.

00:09:15.260 I think really what's going on here is it's just making the economy more efficient.

00:09:19.320 And now the government's figured that out.

00:09:21.120 When you can be more transparent, faster, cheaper, I mean, that's a good thing.

00:09:24.980 And that's really what's going on.

00:09:26.500 You talk about crypto.

00:09:27.420 It's really making financial services and investing easier and more transparent.

00:09:33.540 So there's nothing wrong with owning some Bitcoin.

00:09:35.340 I think it's like owning a building.

00:09:36.900 It goes up in value.

00:09:37.540 brady just bought it uh board ape do you own any uh nfts nfts are really intriguing for me and i

00:09:43.940 know you guys have just dropped something big in the last couple of days and and i think the way

00:09:49.160 i look at it is let's go back to watches for a second okay my biggest problem in the watch

00:09:52.940 industry if i'm buying a secondary piece like something patek made that's out of production

00:09:59.540 that's 22 years old how do i know i'm not getting ripped off because the chances are i am there's

00:10:05.500 so many fake pieces out there if we created an nft for every watch when it was actually made at the

00:10:12.700 factory and authenticated it with a really high resolution image of the dial which has tiny

00:10:18.480 imperfections in it you know with certainty that you're buying the real thing so i think

00:10:22.920 authenticating um collectibles is the way to go with it it's already it's already happening it's

00:10:28.220 so there's watch watchmakers already working on it yeah 100 it's so funny you say that well a i

00:10:33.420 love the physical to digital uh connection that seems inevitable and super necessary and then

00:10:38.460 um i was on this podcast explaining the same importance because i bought a box of pokemon

00:10:44.480 cards that was fake i bought a box of gi joe cards that was is now bro how can that happen

00:10:52.640 it can happen because somebody want to rip you off and they did a good job doing it yeah and it

00:10:56.340 was verified by by a verification company it was why i bought it you got to know who you're dealing

00:11:01.700 with because at the end of the day if you're buying a patek the only guy that can authenticate

00:11:05.900 in the whole world is john reardon you gotta he's he's the guy he knows he's the he's the patek guy

00:11:11.120 he ran the patek museum everybody knows john check this watch out it ain't cheap but if you're

00:11:16.600 spending 150 200 300 000 you got john's got to check it out yeah so you know even and i'm working

00:11:22.780 with him along with some other guys to to get the protocol the white paper down so that we can

00:11:27.760 modify the secondary watch market

00:11:29.700 first. That's what I'm most interested in. I buy

00:11:31.820 a lot of pieces that I think are really rare that I really like.

00:11:33.860 They're great investments. And my F.P. Joran

00:11:35.840 catalog, I want every one of those NFT

00:11:37.720 because, you know, that is

00:11:39.840 going to be, I already told my wife, listen,

00:11:41.940 I want all these watches buried in my coffin

00:11:43.780 with me. And she said, yeah, sure. Don't worry

00:11:45.880 about it.

00:11:47.920 That's sharp. That coffin's going to

00:11:49.800 get dug up real quick. Yeah, right.

00:11:51.520 Everybody at the funeral's like, yes.

00:11:53.420 I will be there. It's a closed casket

00:11:55.580 with like a lock and we're like, come on.

00:11:57.160 it's like the pharaohs you know it's sort of that's what they did you're going to a place

00:12:01.700 where you need a good time piece because you're going to be there forever it's a good time but 0.62

00:12:05.420 time doesn't exist there so yeah no it's true oh yeah and the afterlife got it talk about no no

00:12:12.180 clocks there you're still gonna get a you know you're gonna need a good watch that's what i

00:12:15.680 think yeah i'm i'm intrigued by this what what happens it's just well time is we created that

00:12:20.080 just to measure it's not a natural there's no days there it's just an always on like the sun

00:12:24.940 came up at one point. 0.96

00:12:26.180 I guess you're always dead 0.97

00:12:26.680 once you're dead. 0.96

00:12:27.340 Yeah. 0.97

00:12:28.140 But still you need to watch.

00:12:28.860 But you're dead with fashion now,

00:12:29.960 my man.

00:12:30.160 Yeah, listen,

00:12:30.760 I'll have more watches

00:12:31.420 than anybody else, I hope.

00:12:32.440 Yeah.

00:12:33.320 I'm curious.

00:12:34.640 Did you start wearing the suit

00:12:36.200 before you made a lot of money

00:12:37.400 or did you make a lot of money

00:12:38.660 because you wear a suit?

00:12:40.200 Great question.

00:12:40.800 You know,

00:12:41.060 it's a great question

00:12:42.180 and what happened to me

00:12:43.860 was years ago,

00:12:46.440 I was, you know,

00:12:47.020 Shark Tank took off

00:12:48.100 and I was, you know,

00:12:50.580 I wore this suit,

00:12:51.620 this uniform.

00:12:52.820 Yeah.

00:12:53.080 And I show up at some show

00:12:54.740 in new york and it was a daytime show maybe it was um i can't remember which one it was one of

00:13:00.620 the morning shows right and i had just you know a pair of jeans on and a shirt she said

00:13:04.800 where's where's the shark tank suit i said who cares she's you can't go out there without the

00:13:10.620 shark tank suit and i said why not she said it'll freak people out you have to go back to hotel and 0.87

00:13:16.300 get back in the shark tank suit and i realized shit there's a brand out there yeah absolutely 0.95

00:13:21.300 and that was the first time it hit me 0.98

00:13:23.720 and she told me something about a Q score

00:13:25.800 that the networks

00:13:27.940 when you come out

00:13:29.720 and you're not you and there's something different about you

00:13:31.880 that's not good

00:13:32.920 they want to know what they know

00:13:34.620 even if it's a level up

00:13:36.620 for example the red bands

00:13:38.720 I got to wear a red band on Shark Tank all the time

00:13:41.280 because it started 7 or 8 years ago

00:13:43.820 they want continuity

00:13:44.940 they want to be able to cut between years and scenes

00:13:47.480 and see the same suit

00:13:48.900 so I'm the guy that wears the same thing

00:13:50.580 I've got 25 of these suits, 25 of these shirts.

00:13:52.760 Yes.

00:13:53.520 And, you know, it's just part of who I am.

00:13:57.280 Even when I show up in Dubai, they say, where's the suit?

00:14:00.600 It's like I just got off the plane.

00:14:02.080 Yeah, and it's 146 degrees.

00:14:04.180 Like I'm wearing shorts.

00:14:05.460 It is what it is, and you've got to respect it. 0.99

00:14:07.860 I just can't imagine somebody watching like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:14:10.140 Is that blue? 1.00

00:14:10.900 Fuck this show. 1.00

00:14:12.480 It's branding. 1.00

00:14:13.280 It's why I ask.

00:14:14.320 It's because, like, he is the businessman,

00:14:17.340 and a suit is very easily tied to that.

00:14:19.680 It's like, we all love Kevin O'Leary, but Kevin O'Leary in a suit.

00:14:23.180 Oh my God.

00:14:23.740 Do you lounge in the house like watching Netflix wearing a suit?

00:14:26.940 Hey, listen, I'm wearing, you know, Japanese fishing pants.

00:14:31.680 Like they're very colorful.

00:14:32.980 During the whole pandemic, I would wear-

00:14:35.620 Can I see a picture of this?

00:14:37.040 You can just go look, see anywhere on social.

00:14:39.280 I'm wearing the top, but I have no pants on.

00:14:42.640 So, and I did that for two years and I keep doing it now.

00:14:45.380 Because when you're on TV, I got my own studio and I'm recording something with, you know,

00:14:48.780 whatever show it is why should i have to wear pants oh oh oh these are cool exactly these are

00:14:54.180 cool dude that's what you want very package friendly very very easy that's it that's it man

00:15:02.680 i i'll tell you how i learned about these when i was a kid my father worked the united nations and

00:15:07.320 we got posted in non-pen cambodia and it's 140 degrees there and it's 100 humidity and i also

00:15:14.140 learned to cook i became a chef there because the housekeeper tiba and dang were the two one was a

00:15:19.620 housekeeper the other was a chef she'd take me to the market at 4 a.m four o'clock because it was

00:15:25.740 so hot that they had to go and buy the fish and everything else so we'd hit the mate it was right

00:15:30.020 on the mekong delta right there with the fishermen and everybody wore those pants and i said i need

00:15:34.760 a pair of those pants and once you put those on you don't go back yeah yeah they're just so

00:15:38.900 comfortable and i've been wearing them my whole life and also she taught me you know the fusion

00:15:43.040 food they can't use heavy cream and butter because it's so hot so they change like instead of using

00:15:47.700 butter they'll use lime juice and mango chutney so i have this big business now called chef

00:15:53.100 wonderful on qvc and i make these dishes and i got a huge wine business as well you know it's it's

00:15:58.180 sort of i go on a chef wonderful we sell millions of dollars worth of wine but i did that myself i

00:16:04.000 actually can cook and i love doing it so sick how you're able to turn that into a business because

00:16:09.160 i love it i mean you know what you want to do is basically do businesses that you love doing

00:16:14.640 i don't mind getting out there and cooking like that's fun i was a chef at benihana's

00:16:20.120 you know the biggest the biggest mistake and illegally at my dad's restaurant i'm like 11

00:16:25.800 i shouldn't even been cooking everybody makes the mistake of putting too much salt and sugar

00:16:30.540 into food you take away the flavor the the when they make food the the asian fusion way

00:16:37.680 they only use natural if you want salt you add lime you don't put salt you add more lime juice

00:16:43.140 and it gives it a little ting and it makes a much fresher salad much better fish i'm totally into

00:16:48.360 that i don't use any salt anymore i don't put sugar in my food it's a great way to cook that

00:16:52.880 an aura ring yeah no i'm totally tripped out on this stuff so aura ring got a whoop yep um i wear

00:17:00.180 a glucose sensor although i'm not a diabetic because i track i don't want to spike my glucose

00:17:05.360 if you want to stay sharp during the day you got to eat foods that don't spike your glucose

00:17:10.580 when you hit yourself with three teaspoons of white sugar you're frying your brain so like me

00:17:15.440 drinking this coffee right very bad fried well you shouldn't put sugar in it so i got into this

00:17:20.500 thing um i was doing some work on cnbc a couple of years ago and all of a sudden it's live right

00:17:25.700 it was a halftime report and i felt like i was losing my concentration i couldn't remember the

00:17:30.320 stocks we were talking about so i actually went to see this guy named richard isaacs and he said

00:17:34.400 oh yeah you're spiking out your brain if you just simply change your diet you're going to be much

00:17:39.280 sharper and he was right and i in the in the process um basically i lost 22 pounds because

00:17:45.320 i don't eat for 16 hours a day i you know i do this intermittent fasting yeah you know what's

00:17:50.160 amazing it's impossible to do it for the first three weeks then you're never hungry again i

00:17:54.620 haven't even eaten today yet i haven't either i know people that swear by that it's the only thing

00:18:00.080 that keeps me from becoming more of a whale

00:18:03.220 than I currently am.

00:18:03.940 So you're doing it too.

00:18:04.680 Yeah, all the time.

00:18:05.360 Okay, so cool.

00:18:06.200 You get the joke.

00:18:07.520 But these things, these track,

00:18:09.060 you know, I look at my sleep.

00:18:10.780 What you find so interesting,

00:18:12.420 and this is my biggest weakness,

00:18:13.640 is I love wine.

00:18:14.940 But if you drink wine three hours

00:18:16.680 before you go to bed,

00:18:17.380 you really screw up your sleep.

00:18:18.700 Yeah.

00:18:19.140 You get no REM.

00:18:20.340 And so you got to,

00:18:21.140 the best thing to do is get up in the morning

00:18:22.240 and drink in the morning.

00:18:23.560 Let's go.

00:18:25.120 He's a dartiest.

00:18:26.420 He likes to darty.

00:18:27.640 Dude, just imagine him five o'clock in the morning.

00:18:30.660 No, I haven't got to that place yet.

00:18:32.720 But the whole idea is reduce the amount of alcohol you're taking in before you sleep.

00:18:37.860 You know, going back to Mark Roberts, the guy barely drinks, right?

00:18:41.020 Yeah.

00:18:41.700 He gets the joke on that stuff.

00:18:43.240 He does once in a while, but I go out for dinner with him all the time.

00:18:45.940 We hit every restaurant in Miami to check it out.

00:18:48.960 But you don't spend a lot of time at 11?

00:18:51.440 Oh, man.

00:18:52.320 I've spent some wicked time at 11.

00:18:54.400 The last time I was there, you know, I was having a great time.

00:18:58.940 thank goodness no pictures and then i step outside it's 7 30 in the morning that's how it works 0.79

00:19:05.500 every time and i go what the fuck what happened to me what what i've been you know it was crazy 0.82

00:19:12.140 i mean that i gotta stop going to that place listen 11 11 is i gotta 11 miami is an institution 0.92

00:19:18.500 it's an institution it is but you got to get mark's box like that's the only way to do it

00:19:23.520 because everywhere else is way too crazy yeah plus you get a good view of what's going on it's not

00:19:28.080 really a strip club anymore it's a cabaret which i think they're trying to elevate their brand

00:19:32.480 he gets brand too and i think 11 started as a pretty you know down and dirty brand but now

00:19:38.520 you're building real estate with the brand and you're going into vodka with the brand so my

00:19:42.820 advice to him was clean it up baby like if you want a bigger audience you got to be a little

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00:20:58.780 to the show you even gave your business advice to mark of course i tell him what to do every day

00:21:03.980 doesn't it doesn't always listen but he's doing are you the reason he's rich no but we're in a

00:21:07.820 couple of deals together we really are we invest together in some things um we've got a company

00:21:12.620 called immutable holdings that owns nft.com they just launched they're huge i'm an advisor did you

00:21:17.100 you know that yeah i know that i actually talked to jordan i mentioned we were going to get together

00:21:20.800 and i like what he's doing in creating that whole new vision of nft.com and what i a lot of artists

00:21:27.560 approach me and say listen where do i put my infrastructure where's my building blocks i say

00:21:31.140 talk to him yep like you know jordan free is doing the right thing and i know you're involved as well

00:21:36.980 but i've also got mark in that deal and we've gotten that one together we did something with

00:21:42.160 wonderfy which is a canadian crypto we own the entire canadian crypto exchange license and we're

00:21:48.160 centralized and decentralized uh we're taking that into the middle east with the uae and brazil uh

00:21:54.720 we're trying to get what i'm trying to do on crypto is is get the the the government's licenses so

00:22:00.080 we're not rogue cowboy guys so we can work with the government and and build regulated exchanges

00:22:05.680 because that's what i think is going to happen yeah yeah and the government loves that yeah

00:22:08.560 So UAE, Brazil, Switzerland, these guys are advanced, England the same way.

00:22:13.580 So I think WonderFi will eventually become a giant holding company

00:22:17.400 for all these licensed exchanges around the world.

00:22:20.320 How many different entities, verticals, industries are you in?

00:22:25.160 Because everything that we mentioned, you have a company in.

00:22:28.680 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:29.320 Or you have an advisor on a board.

00:22:31.620 You know what I'm saying?

00:22:32.440 Do you own any cheeseburger or casual dining?

00:22:36.280 uh i actually own a bunch of uh food companies but i tell you where i'm going with it i don't

00:22:42.180 there's a lot of you know shark tanks always two years ahead of the market the deals we see are

00:22:46.160 coming right i saw this one it just aired called magic dates so i'm into healthier eating now and 0.98

00:22:53.040 i don't eat a lot of shitty food but she found a way um to actually take date paste and make a very

00:23:00.300 very healthy snack that tastes sweet that doesn't spike your glucose her sales are going through the 1.00

00:23:05.480 roof because mothers want to give their kids healthy stuff. So I found some strategic investors

00:23:10.760 that joined me in the deal. We're going to blow the company up because one of the great things

00:23:15.380 about being a shark, everybody returns your calls. Like I could call the head of Walmart and get a

00:23:19.900 call back and say, look, let's help this woman. She's a female CEO. Let's help moms buy healthy 1.00

00:23:24.380 snacks. Let's blow this thing up together. You know, it's just good business. And so I'm into 1.00

00:23:29.360 healthier foods now. I'm trying to get out of the soft thing. I mentioned that earlier, but

00:23:33.620 i got a lot of deals i mean it's i feel that celebrity you should use it to help people

00:23:39.640 you know that's what i and you're doing the same thing i'm trying to say look i'm an entrepreneur

00:23:43.980 you're an entrepreneur you can't get your call returned i can i'll buy a piece your company

00:23:48.820 we'll go into the journey together and i can do things for you you can't do yourself that's being

00:23:53.480 i think a good investor i found i found mike on the street yeah he was literally you should put

00:23:58.560 i'm right back there i still am i still am i'm still there no that's not true um but you're

00:24:06.560 absolutely right putting people on is is amazing and i can't imagine how good you feel putting all

00:24:10.960 and make literally changing lives yeah it's great and and look you you don't you you can still do

00:24:15.660 business you can still be an investor but you've got to find things you're i i like to spend my 0.75

00:24:20.000 day doing shit i like yeah so the the you know i i have a great woman here in nancy chung she

00:24:25.320 allocates the time we do so much work and then we say what are these things that i don't want to do 0.96

00:24:30.680 because i don't have to do anything yeah that's the whole idea of being an entrepreneur it's not

00:24:34.220 not about the greed of money it's about the pursuit of personal freedom i do whatever i like

00:24:39.120 but i like to do stuff that's you know interesting and so i surround myself with interesting people

00:24:43.740 i got a great crew we do interesting stuff we go all over the world and we're investors and you 0.88

00:24:48.500 know entrepreneurship is not the pursuit of greed it doesn't work people smell bullshit a mile 0.93

00:24:55.240 way. You got to be transparent. Yeah. I was going to ask, are you inherently curious? 0.97

00:24:59.700 Yeah. You seem like you're interested in a lot of things, which I imagine

00:25:02.360 lends itself nicely to putting your heart and soul into these different companies or at least

00:25:06.640 listening to them. Yeah. I mean, look, people try and hustle me all the time, but I can sense the

00:25:12.980 bullshit like everybody else can. And so if it's not interesting and it's really BS and I don't 0.97

00:25:19.280 go there, but very often I run into people with great ideas. Today at the conference, I got

00:25:23.300 inundated with deals there were two of them that sounded really interesting to me and so i said okay

00:25:28.380 listen give me your here's my cell number text me i'll get my crew to check it out and i my bet is

00:25:34.440 we'll probably invest in one of these things wow and that's how you find great good for but you're

00:25:39.280 willing to hear these people out this guy approached me with a fantastic tokenized you know

00:25:44.800 gaming is way where we're going to go into the metaverse we all know 100 and tokens are it and

00:25:49.780 So I like gamers that get the joke and have figured out a way to tokenize and engage.

00:25:56.800 And this kid looked terrific.

00:25:58.620 And the more I talked to him, the more I got it.

00:26:00.200 So I got a whole team looking into it.

00:26:02.080 And he wants me to buy a piece of his company.

00:26:04.460 I'll do it.

00:26:04.600 Was it Phil?

00:26:05.420 No.

00:26:05.980 No, I won't say who it is until I finish my diligence because I promised the guy.

00:26:09.260 He's got a bunch of guys chasing him.

00:26:10.840 But I can do things for him that no traditional venture capitalist can do.

00:26:15.720 And I'm not against venture capital, but they don't have millions of followers.

00:26:19.780 And so there's a direct correlation between market capitalization and social media today.

00:26:25.920 And you're a living proof of that.

00:26:27.460 You know, it's sort of we as influencers, if you want to call it that, can help bring

00:26:31.860 a company forward by telling its story and investing in it and saying, check this out.

00:26:37.500 And I'm very transparent.

00:26:39.120 I declare all my positions.

00:26:40.940 I say I invested in this.

00:26:42.300 Here's why.

00:26:42.780 I'm not telling you what to do, but here's why I invested in it.

00:26:45.540 And we can and we can get, you know, blow the company up and help it get its mandate done.

00:26:49.860 If I'm a believer in it, that's a strategy.

00:26:52.980 You're much more patient and kind probably than I am.

00:26:56.380 Like, I will not hear the NFT metaverse pitches. 0.96

00:27:00.380 And I understand I'm here at Bitcoin week, but like, I just have no fucking patience, bro.

00:27:04.380 Like, I'm I am unwilling to hear all of them.

00:27:07.000 I wanted to ask you about that, but you're getting into authentication, right?

00:27:09.980 As far as like non-fungible tokens?

00:27:12.120 Yeah.

00:27:12.460 Yeah.

00:27:12.760 Yeah.

00:27:13.000 okay so i mean you're part of that universe one way or another

00:27:16.020 i agree and it's probably why they're coming up to me because they think i'm probably interested

00:27:22.260 in the universe but i'm not they want to trade off your name okay that's basically why they want

00:27:27.320 they want to get access to your followers and that's okay if you believe in it yourself and

00:27:33.180 it becomes part of your investment strategy yeah but it's not okay to sell your name for the sake

00:27:38.540 of being paid oh that's totally uncool for sure for sure i'm i'm just saying like i just man the 0.99

00:27:45.620 99.9 of bullshit because most of it is bullshit i just i don't feel like listening that's savvy 0.97

00:27:52.720 business i mean i totally get that but you know when i get approached with product deals and i do 0.99

00:27:57.760 some of them i ask myself would i use that product would i the only way i'll endorse something is i

00:28:04.000 personally use it so you know when watch companies say hey listen will you endorse my watch i say

00:28:09.360 guys i'll endorse the art of watchmaking but i'm not going to stick myself with one brand or another

00:28:14.620 i own all the companies the brands and i'm happy to be an ambassador of you know mentorship or

00:28:19.060 whatever but something like a start engine or an ftx where i actually use the product yeah and i've

00:28:26.440 got millions of dollars invested in it yeah i'm a paid spokesperson for both those companies i

00:28:32.040 believe in equity crowdfunding and the best platform is start engine yeah i'm okay with that

00:28:36.600 but i'm also a shareholder and i didn't disclose it same with sam bankman freed i like his mandate

00:28:41.520 i like his parents i like his family and i'm happy to be a shareholder and i like to support him so

00:28:46.000 yeah but everybody knows it's like i'm not bullshitting anybody i want to i want to talk

00:28:51.600 to the entrepreneurs for a second the entrepreneurs watching this podcast anyone trying to start a

00:28:56.460 business because it's horrifying and extremely difficult. Yeah. You've done it multiple times

00:29:03.220 over. And I'm sure you get this question asked all the time, but what's your advice? What's your

00:29:08.800 advice to entrepreneurs out there looking to make a life for themselves with a business?

00:29:11.620 Get ready to fail multiple times because that's what's going to happen. And if you can't handle

00:29:15.720 that, don't try. Only a third of people can actually make it through entrepreneurship because

00:29:20.520 it's incredibly hard. It's not get rich overnight. It's not a Bitcoin deal and all that stuff.

00:29:26.080 the fact is growing a business is almost impossible it's going to take years you're

00:29:32.860 going to have to make mistakes you're going to have to pivot and you have this horrible decision

00:29:37.260 about the balance of time in your life it's best to be an entrepreneur in your 20s it's very hard

00:29:44.000 to do it later on when you're free to actually spend 25 hours a day working and you know i've

00:29:49.440 always i always tell this story about entrepreneurship i teach a lot of graduating

00:29:54.620 cohorts of engineers and because a lot of those guys have deals and i like to do at harvard mit

00:29:59.900 all these places and we'd had a night class a few years ago i'll never forget it there's a guy up at

00:30:06.060 the top and you know these cohorts are like 600 people some of these big classrooms and i'm we're

00:30:12.140 getting it's a three-hour session that's long six to nine at night we're almost at nine and this guy

00:30:17.820 puts up his hand who hasn't contributed anything all night you start to figure out who's not doing

00:30:22.460 anything right after three hours he says listen i gotta ask you a question i said well yeah it's

00:30:28.780 five minutes to nine you're finally contributing something he says no no this is a tough one um

00:30:33.980 i've been running this business out of my dorm uh and i'm about to graduate it's it's a cloud

00:30:41.400 business that provides compliance software for hedge funds that have 250 million dollars or less

00:30:47.900 which is a niche business i'm making about five million a year in free cash flow and i said i

00:30:54.560 don't hear a problem you haven't even graduated and you've got an outstanding business and you're

00:30:59.960 doing it part-time he said that's not the problem my fiance came to me today and said that she's

00:31:07.660 gonna leave me and i said why because i'm not spending any time with her family i don't have

00:31:12.620 anytime on weekends i can't go out to the soccer games with her nephews and stuff and i i didn't

00:31:17.420 i just can't because i'm so busy and i got to keep my business going i got to graduate my degree

00:31:22.700 what do i do now the class is like you could hear a pin drop in there right and i said to him wow

00:31:31.680 okay i'm not dr phil but let me give you some advice here which one is easier to replace

00:31:38.940 the girlfriend or the business i mean you gotta ask that question you're making five million a

00:31:47.580 year and every woman in this class now knows this i got a buddy who owns 11 i can solve your

00:31:55.400 problems right now i'm going to guess that if you can't work this out you're going to just do fine

00:32:02.100 and and i and i said to him the way you got to think about it is she's not the right person

00:32:06.780 if she's not supportive of this journey you're on yeah you're obviously going to be wildly 0.89

00:32:11.380 successful you're going to get somebody else now that caused a shit storm really oh yeah we didn't 0.85

00:32:18.120 end the class for another 45 minutes because we started to debate the merits of how you value 0.73

00:32:22.340 your time and what's important to you and where you should decide to be when you're an entrepreneur

00:32:27.420 you've got to find a partner a significant other that understands the journey and is willing to

00:32:32.300 support that journey because that's ultimately how you're going to be personally free one day

00:32:36.340 so i would have loved to you know do a check now two years later where that guy is now but i bet

00:32:43.160 you he's making a fortune yeah yeah and i'm sure he's got plenty of options so i actually have a

00:32:49.360 question for you and speaking of the partner thing that is a huge thing uh my girlfriend supports me

00:32:54.460 like if i come home at like four o'clock in the morning she'll have dinner ready for me and she'll

00:32:57.940 go back to sleep like long as you're not cheating on her four in the morning it's a strange time

00:33:01.380 dude i can never cheat i can't even cheat on myself dude and that's my next question what

00:33:05.420 happens to a person who has too big of a heart because i feel like when i try to hire friends

00:33:10.720 or when i try to if i see an employee like keep failing but i know he's a good person i know he's

00:33:15.900 he has the capability like i feel like my biggest fall and the reason why i'm not where i need to be 0.63

00:33:22.140 is because my heart he's fucking my path up like crazy you have to make that differentiation you've 0.88

00:33:28.620 got to put metrics in place the worst thing you can do is hire your brother sister uncle cousin 0.97

00:33:34.060 Who works for you, by the way?

00:33:34.960 Your assistant?

00:33:35.420 Who is that?

00:33:35.960 My assistant.

00:33:36.560 Yeah.

00:33:37.060 But by the way, crushes it.

00:33:38.460 She's the only employee that I trust.

00:33:40.440 The hardest thing to do is get the whacking stick out when you know you have to do it.

00:33:44.160 If you're putting a team together, if you're building a business, you've got to have a

00:33:47.060 discipline of setting goals, achieving them.

00:33:48.700 And if they can't reach them, it's behind the barn and you know what you have to do.

00:33:52.540 You've got to move on.

00:33:53.960 You've got to move on.

00:33:54.980 You've got to keep your crew tight.

00:33:56.380 You have to make sure that everybody understands what they're doing.

00:33:58.420 And particularly when you're building a business, you've got to allocate as you're building

00:34:01.500 it and it gets bigger and you've got to find good people. 0.99

00:34:03.620 I've made most of my money in investing in women. 0.97

00:34:07.480 If you look at all these Shark Tank deals over 14 years, 0.75

00:34:09.940 75% of the returns came from companies run by women. 0.99

00:34:12.520 They're better at mitigating risk. 1.00

00:34:14.120 So I'm already biased at backing women. 1.00

00:34:16.620 You see my returns, because they're, 1.00

00:34:18.480 you know the old adage,

00:34:19.200 you want something done, give it to a busy mother? 1.00

00:34:20.700 It's true. 0.84

00:34:21.480 They know how to use their time.

00:34:22.920 And so I'm a big advocate for that.

00:34:24.740 I'll invest in any idea that I think has merit,

00:34:27.760 but I invest more with women now 1.00

00:34:29.260 because I've made so much dough with them. 1.00

00:34:30.640 World of women, dude. 1.00

00:34:31.560 hey listen it's it's i'd give money to a goat if i could get a return 1.00

00:34:35.960 like i mean i'm into it for the returns i'm making but women are very good at this what's

00:34:40.080 the most successful investment wait i'll wait how much longer you want me to wait for i just 0.97

00:34:48.040 i wanted to ask something kind of just before we is it about women or goats both female goats

00:34:52.880 no it just got kind of still on this oh i gotta go before we get into it because i'm curious about

00:34:57.740 all that as well absolutely um okay i'm super curious about this yeah all right quick anecdote

00:35:03.080 little story followed by a question sure i took a class in high school called design squad i was

00:35:08.060 a straight a student design squad design squad all i got were a's we'd we'd be uh tasked with

00:35:13.140 these little um missions on on you know get a ball from a to z and make it uh set off a mousetrap

00:35:19.060 that was the particular one we were doing this time and just launch a rocket whatever and so

00:35:23.000 he got laid in high school for sure

00:35:25.300 I'm just trying to envision him

00:35:27.900 with this Ruth Ginsburg

00:35:29.580 machine

00:35:30.340 so are you an artist

00:35:33.840 is that what you're trying to say

00:35:34.780 yeah okay so listen 0.86

00:35:37.320 if that's a true story it's not bullshit that's interesting

00:35:39.600 I wanted to be an engineer

00:35:40.580 I want to make stuff and we only had certain

00:35:43.640 materials you know that was the thing

00:35:45.280 and so I'm two weeks into this project

00:35:47.540 it's due the next day 0.99

00:35:49.160 and I'm realizing I can't set off this fucking mousetrap 0.98

00:35:51.660 and I'm looking around 0.99

00:35:52.700 and every other group could

00:35:53.800 and I couldn't set off the mousetrap

00:35:55.300 and I got

00:35:56.580 I failed the project

00:35:57.900 and I ended up

00:35:58.760 because I failed that project

00:35:59.920 getting an F

00:36:00.700 in that class

00:36:01.720 and I

00:36:02.600 threw out the whole process

00:36:04.460 kept trying to make my thing work

00:36:05.760 and kept trying to make my thing work

00:36:06.980 and it didn't

00:36:07.880 and I didn't have the guts

00:36:09.500 to say 1.00

00:36:10.500 fuck it 1.00

00:36:10.940 I need to start over 1.00

00:36:12.000 it's gonna be better

00:36:12.960 for me

00:36:13.560 if I literally start fresh

00:36:14.900 and I didn't 0.52

00:36:15.740 and I screwed myself

00:36:16.460 and I gotta be in that class 0.80

00:36:17.480 until my parents came in

00:36:18.300 talked to the teacher

00:36:18.860 and they had

00:36:19.200 give me extra credit

00:36:20.240 and then I got an A

00:36:20.860 thank you mr purdy for making that happen so that's pretty amazing you've got your parents

00:36:25.800 to negotiate a deal did they get a percentage royalty on that they did that's pretty good i

00:36:29.560 bought my mama house yeah uh that's a lot that's the right thing to do bought your dad a truck 0.99

00:36:34.080 bought my dad a truck which he sold yeah for motors fuck you great uh but i just love you great 0.97

00:36:39.860 but um it was a actually amazing lesson for me because i learned like sometimes you need to start 0.99

00:36:45.920 over if you're failing don't be afraid to start fresh so when should entrepreneurs if at all

00:36:52.560 pivot wow that's a great question i have a very simple rule to this and i tell them all when i

00:36:56.600 invest in them if you're not making money after 36 months three years you got to take it behind

00:37:03.520 the barn and shoot it because it's just a hobby it's not a business and everybody says oh no no

00:37:08.380 no, no, no, no, no. People get so, you know, stuck on a bad idea. They just keep thinking,

00:37:15.180 if I keep working on it, it's going to fix itself. It doesn't fix itself. It was put on your journey

00:37:20.560 to teach you what not to do. That's the whole idea. And if you don't realize the lesson learned,

00:37:26.620 you're fucked. I mean, you're going to spend all your time on some really bad idea and waste it. 1.00

00:37:31.520 you gotta pivot and I tell all my entrepreneurs this one didn't work I'll come I'll come visit

00:37:38.220 you with a good bottle of wine and we'll just drink it and then we'll take this idea behind

00:37:43.300 the barn and shoot it you spend a lot of time behind that barn yeah I have you know not every

00:37:48.120 idea works but the most important thing is say look it's not working shoot it like and let's

00:37:53.980 move on oh I can't do that yes you can I'll do it for you look it's a rehabilitation home for

00:37:59.440 you gotta shoot it you have to shoot it and then you move on to your next idea and then

00:38:03.340 you only need one to work you only need one you get a winner you go through the roof yeah 0.98

00:38:08.700 all right mikey sorry for interrupting uh no i was just yeah i was gonna go back to some

00:38:14.240 some superlatives what is the most successful business you've invested on uh in as a result

00:38:19.900 shark tank so the number one exit was a deal called plated okay two guys from new york city

00:38:29.060 started meal kits remember that whole thing where you just a meal comes to your door every day

00:38:34.640 and then you cook it yeah that whole idea blue apron was the big guy at the time got it so

00:38:40.720 what happened was the grocers started to see this trend occurring and they saw that whole foods was

00:38:49.460 bought by amazon and they went oh no so albertson approached us at plated and said we'd like to buy

00:38:56.380 you they bought it for 340 million bucks that was a shark tank deal it was only 36 months old

00:39:02.600 and it had grown dramatically and so that was the biggest exit in shark tank history and that paid

00:39:09.400 for a lot of my mistakes on shark tank yeah but there are deals now on shark tank and there's one 1.00

00:39:14.580 being negotiated right now can't announce it yet it's actually one run by a woman that's going to 1.00

00:39:19.420 be the largest individual winner um because because i own a small fraction of the business 1.00

00:39:25.940 and she owns the rest of it it's an extraordinary outcome and she built something incredible of

00:39:32.600 course we're going to track it on shark tank shark tank knows about it but the deal hasn't

00:39:35.820 been announced yet we're getting 100 million dollar deals all the time now in shark tank

00:39:40.180 wow because the show does one thing that the real secret of shark tank is to understand that it

00:39:45.700 reduces customer acquisition costs for its companies 100 million eyeballs see every episode

00:39:51.960 in syndication so people see products and they order it online and the company paid nothing to

00:39:57.440 get the customer you want to get on shark tank and more you you want to get a deal with a shark so

00:40:02.780 that you can actually be updated every year on the updates and that's seen in 42 countries around

00:40:08.180 the world so we change lives on shark tank every day now who knew this is going to get this big

00:40:12.440 i mean this is no you didn't know that we had no idea i remember season three i said wow you know

00:40:18.560 we've got a dog and a cat watching the show that's it season four things exploded because

00:40:23.880 we went into this recessionary period and started coming out of it and everybody wanted to be an

00:40:27.760 entrepreneur and then we started seeing huge numbers every week and i remember the first time

00:40:33.060 that i'd never i went into the um it was at logan airport and i went into the washroom and um my

00:40:41.440 my daughter and my wife were outside waiting for me and this had never happened before i'm you know

00:40:45.820 at the urinal i'm taking a piss and this guy the right keeps looking at me and i said you know it

00:40:52.140 was uncomfortable and i finally said yeah can i help you says are you that guy on shark tank i said 0.99

00:40:57.820 yeah that had never happened before he said you're an asshole and i said why would you say that he 0.99

00:41:06.560 said because you did a deal yesterday where you took 51 control and i said yeah so what you know 1.00

00:41:12.880 and got into an argument about it

00:41:15.000 and I said

00:41:15.500 in the bathroom

00:41:16.060 there's still peeing 0.99

00:41:17.220 somebody's taking a shit 0.98

00:41:18.300 and they're just listening 1.00

00:41:19.040 they're like what the fuck 0.99

00:41:19.360 we're taking a piss at the urinals 0.99

00:41:20.320 just yelling at each other

00:41:21.120 and I said look

00:41:21.580 a lot of deals get done

00:41:22.480 in washrooms like this

00:41:23.400 but not today

00:41:24.220 like it's my money

00:41:25.500 I'll do what I want with it

00:41:26.440 so he storms out

00:41:28.440 and he

00:41:28.740 and I learned this later

00:41:29.660 he says to Linda

00:41:30.220 my wife

00:41:30.700 and my daughter Savannah 1.00

00:41:32.080 you know that asshole 1.00

00:41:33.760 Kevin O'Leary's 1.00

00:41:34.640 in the washroom

00:41:35.300 and she said

00:41:37.060 I know

00:41:38.000 that was the first

00:41:40.280 that was the turning point

00:41:41.920 that was season four of shark tank and then we just never looked back i mean you know things

00:41:48.100 went nuts after that dude when you find a format that works like that especially commercially and

00:41:53.560 in media oh my god it is the vehicle it is the vehicle for the product yeah well you're you're

00:41:59.540 you literally put yourself in a position where you're like come to me about your great ideas

00:42:03.840 and you sit there and millions of people watch you make millions of dollars what uh which offer

00:42:09.660 do you kick yourself for not taking you know um and it's legendary now the guy that had ring ring

00:42:16.480 i saw this on youtube actually you turned down no i didn't turn down it was exactly what happened

00:42:21.300 because we're friends now and he's the number two guy at amazon now he sold his company amazon for

00:42:25.600 billions right so everybody passed he wanted 600 000 i said okay listen you know your valuation's

00:42:32.120 crazy but i really like you and i'll give you the 600 000 as a loan for three years you know not an

00:42:39.500 outrageous interest rate but i want two and a half percent of the company and i want some warrants

00:42:43.880 you know and i want some advisor shares and yada yada yada but then you'll get a shark tank deal

00:42:47.420 i'll give you 600 000 he says no i said you really should think about that he said nah i'm not gonna

00:42:54.320 think about it so i would have made about 800 million dollars so so i we every year every year

00:43:04.620 to celebrate our relationship because i've stayed in touch with them because we're good friends now

00:43:09.140 we meet on at the fourth of july on nantucket island and we host this big lunch um on the on

00:43:16.140 the fifth the morning after the fourth and we bring our families we have a great time and he

00:43:21.240 just grinds it into me every time but what did he not like about that deal i'm curious he didn't

00:43:26.420 like that he was scared of debt and i needed certainty that i'd get my capital back it wasn't

00:43:30.580 guaranteed i'd get it back if he wasn't successful so i said listen at least i'm getting a return

00:43:34.980 and you're giving me a little piece of the company for free to give you support and you got a shark

00:43:38.680 tank deal he said i don't want debt i'm scared of debt i said either you're going to make it or

00:43:43.380 you're going to fail like if you fail i lose my 600k i'm taking that chance but i want to be at

00:43:49.060 the top of the cap table when i'm dead i get paid first you know it's not a royalty but it's interest

00:43:54.640 and you got to pay me back to 600 in three years which you could have done in two seconds because

00:43:58.780 the company is wildly successful but i like the guy but his value you know the valuation was 0.97

00:44:03.520 stupid he was offering like two percent for six hundred thousand bucks forget it yeah like yeah 0.54

00:44:08.340 i want 30 i have a quick question because i feel like many people think this about billionaires 0.99

00:44:14.120 six hundred thousand doesn't seem like that much to possibly lose why do you care about getting

00:44:19.500 your money back you know i i learned um my mother taught me something if you ever disrespect money

00:44:27.260 you won't have any it's karma i every dollar i make i kill myself to make it and i don't want

00:44:33.740 to lose it i cry like a baby when i lose 10 bucks like the other the other day i realized i forgot

00:44:40.480 when i flew back from dubai that i didn't have my you know my my frequent flyer number on that

00:44:46.400 ticket and i lost like 400 bucks so i spent two hours calling the airline saying i want my ticket

00:44:51.640 back i want my ticket back i'm crazy that way i want value i want value and i don't i want to

00:44:56.780 respect what my mother taught me about this that i you know every single dollar is hard to make and 0.88

00:45:02.160 if you don't respect it you're going to lose it i don't i don't waste money i don't do stupid things

00:45:05.900 like when i buy a watch i'm buying it because i think it's going to appreciate in value and it 0.97

00:45:09.820 does yeah i don't waste my dough on crap that's the way i look at it so i care about 600 000 0.98

00:45:14.640 and you know can i afford to lose it yes but do i want to lose it fuck no that's a lot of money 0.95

00:45:20.840 it's still a lot of money 600 000 still a lot of money it's also a slippery slope when you're 0.93

00:45:25.720 when you're seeing that type of deal flow as well because if you start uh ignoring you know

00:45:31.100 success metrics and just throwing 600k here 600k there all of a sudden you're just putting money

00:45:36.140 into anything and so he probably has a you probably have rigid guidelines around how you invest your

00:45:40.840 money and that's what keeps you in those it's an intuitive feel the other day i split the tab at a

00:45:46.080 very famous place here in miami i won't mention what it is i won't say because because i looked

00:45:53.280 at it and i said wait a second this is ridiculous this is just ridiculous so and and i'm i know the

00:46:01.460 owner very well so and i said to the guy was i said look before we leave you gotta you gotta

00:46:07.680 look at this tab this just isn't it didn't intuitively feel right and sure enough there

00:46:11.740 was an error in there they did triple charges for the wine or whatever it was it's just you

00:46:17.180 you get this intuitive feeling when you're getting screwed and you just i don't like it yeah i don't

00:46:22.820 Do you think they did that on purpose?

00:46:24.640 I don't think so.

00:46:25.300 I think it was a valid mistake.

00:46:26.640 But I said, you know, no disrespect, but I'm calling you out on it.

00:46:31.000 I want you to go back.

00:46:31.940 I want you to check out.

00:46:33.060 Because I had a whole table.

00:46:34.120 I probably had 25 people with this thing.

00:46:36.240 And I said, there's something wrong here.

00:46:38.080 I just feel it in my bones.

00:46:39.860 Should have took him out behind the bar.

00:46:41.440 No, but you know, I wanted to respect his, go check it.

00:46:46.060 He came back and said, yes, it's on us.

00:46:48.340 I said, I'm still paying for the meal.

00:46:49.820 I don't want free anything, okay?

00:46:51.000 I don't want to owe you anything.

00:46:51.760 i just want to be charged what i thought i was going to be charged from your menu and we we

00:46:56.360 cleared it out and i'm still going to go back we're still friends but you know don't try and 0.96

00:47:01.680 fuck me like that's that's like i i just i have a spider sense about that and if i find out you 1.00

00:47:08.860 did it intentionally i'll rock your world in a way you have no fucking idea don't screw me 1.00

00:47:15.340 that's it's not a threat it's a fact dude you just scared that scared the shit out of me right 1.00

00:47:20.680 Like, don't try and screw me. 0.98

00:47:23.980 Or it won't be wonderful. 0.98

00:47:25.240 I will not be Mr. Wonderful.

00:47:26.740 I'll bring some interesting aspects.

00:47:28.760 Bring me behind the bar.

00:47:29.360 No, I'll bring some interesting aspects to your life.

00:47:31.540 What is that?

00:47:31.960 Like a machete?

00:47:33.040 No, you know, I don't need to be liked.

00:47:36.980 I need to be respected.

00:47:38.240 And I do the same for everybody else I work with.

00:47:40.500 In business, I want to respect you.

00:47:42.120 I don't need to like you.

00:47:44.200 Like, I just have to respect you and I have to trust you.

00:47:47.000 It's trust.

00:47:47.680 That's what I'm talking about.

00:47:48.560 Speaking of respect, what is the most disrespectful moment on Shark Tank that you're going through?

00:47:52.760 Or in life.

00:47:54.800 You know, everybody calls me the mean shark, but I'm just telling the truth. 1.00

00:47:59.700 And if you can't handle the truth, the real world's going to bite your ass anyways. 1.00

00:48:03.640 When you leave the Shark Tank, if your deal sucks, it sucks. 1.00

00:48:07.540 And the reason it sucks, it's a bad idea. 1.00

00:48:10.280 And I'm the only shark to tell you, your idea sucks, it has no merit, you're going to go bankrupt, you're going to lose all your money. 0.99

00:48:15.660 And now that you're going to cry, like I'm your best friend. 0.99

00:48:18.560 i just saved you and you know some people can't handle it it hurts when you're invested personally 0.95

00:48:25.640 and you love something it definitely hurts to get i don't give a shit it's still a bad idea 0.84

00:48:29.720 yeah we've had there's stuff you haven't seen on shark tank where people they don't they lose 0.98

00:48:34.980 their shit oh they spaz out they should keep that in i feel like they should but they don't 0.97

00:48:39.620 and they can't take it and you know we have a psychiatrist on set for those moments when it 1.00

00:48:44.680 happens actually you actually have a psych yeah yeah we do throw a couple prozac i think i think

00:48:49.520 producers are smart that way because you've been you've been waiting your whole life for that

00:48:53.400 moment in front of the sharks and they don't bite they don't want to invest for whatever reason

00:48:57.320 it's hard yeah and we should give you support but you know you got to deal with it that's if you're

00:49:02.320 an entrepreneur you got to deal with failure i said that at the beginning when we start talking

00:49:05.920 yeah that's what matters can you imagine going in for a shark tank deal and you leave and have 0.99

00:49:10.000 to get a lobotomy they strap listen we see some incredible ideas but we also see some dog shit i 0.97

00:49:16.080 was gonna say any anyone anyone come in there and pitch an idea and like you can't say it but in 0.99

00:49:20.420 your head you're like you stupid all the time i do say that i do and i say you know and it happens 0.95

00:49:29.500 sometimes we let them come back do you do it because it's good programming no or is this 1.00

00:49:33.140 i gotta be honest with you that you know we've been doing this for 14 years there's 20 plus

00:49:38.900 cameras in there there's all the lights and everything we don't see that stuff anymore

00:49:42.580 we're just so in the moment we're so into the deal and we just we start competing with each

00:49:47.880 other it's a good deal and we're barking at each other and you know we we know each other so well

00:49:52.440 that we just forget we're making tv and that deal might be an hour and 20 minutes long and they cut

00:49:56.260 it down to eight minutes and you know barbara and i sit beside each other and you know we don't agree

00:50:01.040 on anything and the only reason she gets to the set every year on time is i buy her a new broom 1.00

00:50:06.060 because she's a wish oh i didn't say that i said she needs a broom that's how she flies in it's

00:50:14.640 fantastic but when i actually have beef in real life no she's a great we're both great cooks we

00:50:19.840 meet up at her place um you know it's fun to have barbara cook for me it's fantastic i like her

00:50:25.140 family we hang out all the time uh our crews work together all the time she's really uh has a she

00:50:31.800 looks at things differently she's not into numbers she's into emotion so she'll say i don't care what

00:50:37.120 i'm offering at what valuation i'm just going to do the deal and i look at her say barbara why are

00:50:41.100 you doing that let me negotiate for you you got to stop talking like it's just but she just goes

00:50:45.960 on her own way that's how it works i have a lot of respect for that no no no it was good it was

00:50:53.420 it was good i swear no no no please please please oh it's good i have something no but it was

00:51:00.440 important it was good it's got to be great it's important set up high expectations go go can i

00:51:05.640 can i can i pitch you here oh can we do that yeah listen it could end badly no i won't because this 0.63

00:51:11.880 is a sure shot idea kevin i'm sure as shit this ain't this ain't going behind the barn dude all 0.89

00:51:17.940 right do you have pets i did have pets but i travel so much it's very hard funny you bring 0.97

00:51:26.880 that up kevin okay we look at our pets as family members right right our dogs are like our little

00:51:31.420 brothers our little sisters right yeah love them we like to sleep with them they run around the

00:51:35.160 yard we hang out with them all day it's a pet product you're pitching well it's a it's an

00:51:40.020 infrastructure of sorts okay kevin when i want to go on a trip to new york city when i want to go on

00:51:45.300 a trip to miami it hurts me that i cannot fly with my little brother my little sister my pet

00:51:52.000 it's an age-old problem it's an age-old problem now of course the rich people can afford to fly

00:51:56.520 private yes but there's a ever-growing upper middle class and middle class that doesn't travel

00:52:02.400 because they can't bring their pets with them got it we at terrier terrier

00:52:08.180 have started a company

00:52:12.720 we started a company where we allow you to travel with your dogs and cats so we've got a

00:52:21.500 a bi-seating arrangement where an owner is able to sit with their companion and travel the way

00:52:28.160 they would like to travel with their little brother, sister, or family. I see a problem

00:52:32.560 with terrier. Here's what it is. If you put, let's say you have a, you've got 130 seats, okay? And

00:52:40.300 every second seat is another dog or cat. What a shit show that flight's going to be. Can you 1.00

00:52:45.660 imagine what the fuck's going to happen in an airplane? Yeah, of course. I mean, they're going 0.99

00:52:49.180 to go nuts in there correct so we've retrofitted each one of the uh seating arrangements with a

00:52:54.340 low cabin so basically uh for the companion seating area it is uh basically fenced in so

00:53:00.780 they're not always having a sight barking at each other for two hours well we like to assume that

00:53:05.460 or are you drugging them to sleep no there's no drugging but generally speaking uh most of the

00:53:10.020 people that fly terrier have a good way of controlling their pets so they sit there the

00:53:14.180 dog with drugs this is my this is my business partner and we are in this venture together and

00:53:19.280 this isn't real is it dead serious so we've already bought we've already bought 27 37s that

00:53:24.620 we've since retrofitted but we we wanted to possibly mend it because we did have this idea

00:53:30.240 that humans would be annoyed of all these animals going crazy on the plane both of you just sending

00:53:34.120 the animals alone by themselves and do not give up your day jobs this is a really what do we do

00:53:40.240 what do we do with the 20 aircrafts sell immediately well kevin i i there's a there's

00:53:47.380 clearly a gaping hole in the market there certainly is but that's not to be filled by terrier terrier

00:53:52.620 terrier howls at the moon like a dog with rabies that is a bad idea but but but okay so let me let

00:53:59.720 me ask you a question i i personally believe that dog lovers people that have pets and want to

00:54:04.920 travel with them are willing to forego certain luxuries such as peace and quiet by the way i

00:54:09.380 I should say that every seat does come with noise-canceling headphones.

00:54:13.280 We have a partnership with Harman Kardon.

00:54:15.520 Kevin, you're not going to drive this one in the ground.

00:54:17.580 You're not going to bring this behind the bar.

00:54:18.780 Thank goodness I'm here. 0.99

00:54:20.220 Terry Air sucks. 0.99

00:54:23.100 That is a really bad idea. 0.99

00:54:25.800 That is a bad idea of factor six. 0.99

00:54:29.540 Barbara?

00:54:30.720 I got one.

00:54:31.760 I got one.

00:54:32.380 Okay.

00:54:33.120 This is funny, though, because that's not real.

00:54:35.740 That's not real.

00:54:36.420 Well, it was.

00:54:37.120 You had a chance.

00:54:37.800 You weren't serious. 0.99

00:54:38.420 it sucks so i knew it wasn't real it's so stupid unbelievable this this one was real was kevin 0.99

00:54:44.300 this idea that i'm about to pitch you was my big idea in high school i thought this was going to 0.99

00:54:50.720 make me rich take me to the moon i thought it was brilliant yeah right you like breakfast

00:54:57.140 absolutely most important meal of the day yeah you like toast yeah right right well you're a busy guy

00:55:03.440 i was a busy guy in high school busy kid i'd show up to school early to study and

00:55:06.600 i could never get my meal in in time because i also valued my sleep but i wanted to eat in school

00:55:12.280 they didn't have meals in the morning and i thought how convenient would it be if i could

00:55:16.320 just make some i don't know toast at school in a small single slice pocket toaster that's right

00:55:24.520 you could put one piece of piece of bread in it at a time you could fit the toaster in your pocket

00:55:31.980 Plug it into the wall wherever you go

00:55:33.640 and just munch on your bread.

00:55:35.500 Make your toast as you please.

00:55:37.640 It'll have slots for butter and jam.

00:55:41.300 Very bad.

00:55:42.360 Very bad, huh?

00:55:43.140 Kevin, as the co-founder of this company,

00:55:45.500 Pocket Toaster,

00:55:47.400 I have to let you know 1.00

00:55:48.100 that buttery toast demographic

00:55:49.480 is a highly overlooked...

00:55:51.760 You can only get me to howl at the moon

00:55:53.560 when it's really bad.

00:55:55.500 And that, you got to howl.

00:55:56.740 But I made a Google Sketchup.

00:55:57.960 I did a Google Sketchup.

00:55:58.820 I actually have a PDF of my product.

00:56:00.520 I did a 3D rendering.

00:56:01.980 Oh, so fun fact, I actually tried to make this like I was trying to configure this in 0.99

00:56:07.560 my kitchen and a electrocuted, the fucking toaster blew up. 0.99

00:56:12.800 It exploded in the kitchen. 1.00

00:56:15.780 My mom goes, what the fuck was that? 0.98

00:56:18.340 The mark on the marble from the explosion is still in there today because I was trying 0.99

00:56:22.280 to like unwire the nichrome wires like I know all a piece of a toaster.

00:56:25.780 And that's when my dream died.

00:56:26.980 And well, we've also found out is that these pocket toasters also double as grenades for

00:56:30.920 modern warfare.

00:56:31.560 Yeah, I think it would be kind of difficult to get through the security of a school with, you know, all the alarm going off.

00:56:38.400 A lot of these schools during that period, during all the bombing and stuff, they put those metal detectors.

00:56:42.020 So we're 0 for 2.

00:56:42.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:43.600 So that's up.

00:56:44.240 I can only imagine that our sailor friends.

00:56:45.560 I need some confidence, George, George, George.

00:56:48.260 Actually, I want to zoom in on this.

00:56:50.640 It's called Bubba Ball.

00:56:52.320 Phone's off. 1.00

00:56:53.420 Fuck. 1.00

00:56:54.720 It's called Bubba Ball. 1.00

00:56:56.600 Here you go, sir.

00:56:57.220 You can hold this and admire it.

00:56:58.500 It's my game I'm inventing.

00:56:59.860 and I don't drink

00:57:01.700 and I love beer pong

00:57:03.780 and then I thought beer pong could take it to the next level

00:57:06.560 these have suction cups

00:57:08.480 and each cup has a number to it

00:57:10.600 there's going to be blue cups and red cups

00:57:12.560 you could suction them as far as you want

00:57:14.780 and the other opponent gets to put those cups

00:57:16.820 in the position

00:57:18.500 so the 10 point

00:57:19.900 I got it, this blows

00:57:21.880 no! 0.99

00:57:24.860 why does it suck? 1.00

00:57:26.700 why does it suck? 0.99

00:57:27.460 I do understand why they call you the mean shark. 0.99

00:57:31.060 If I were you, I'd start drinking.

00:57:38.300 All right.

00:57:40.520 That's good.

00:57:41.400 Great shark tank episode.

00:57:44.240 I have you know that this is going to be a ring point two for you.

00:57:49.420 Yeah, maybe.

00:57:51.640 Bubble ball.

00:57:53.960 So I'm completely off the table.

00:57:55.960 Definitely.

00:57:56.680 That's terrible.

00:57:57.460 You're never flying Terrier, by the way.

00:57:59.220 I don't care how many pets you get.

00:58:00.620 You're banned.

00:58:01.800 That just shows you how hard it is to come up with good ideas.

00:58:04.520 We have none here today.

00:58:06.400 That's it.

00:58:08.060 Well, actually, that's not completely true, Kevin.

00:58:11.180 Well, that's a real business.

00:58:12.460 It is real business.

00:58:13.360 And the reason we had you here today is we're looking to get a strategic investor involved

00:58:18.640 from the outside for a small portion of equity in prime.

00:58:24.720 Have you tried prime?

00:58:25.380 Well, I don't have any equity.

00:58:26.180 I haven't.

00:58:27.460 do you want to try some well tell me what's in it is it too much sugar or not well i'm glad you

00:58:31.860 asked yeah yeah two grams of sugar yeah 10 coconut water 25 calories it's a hydration 25 calories

00:58:38.340 that's it does it taste like shen you tell me all right give me the flavor you want me to try it

00:58:43.220 which are you like sweet guy kind of great tropical punch it's universal tropical let's

00:58:48.020 yeah there you go i love that flavor i'm just gonna let you know but the ball's gonna rock

00:58:51.540 because this is a really competitive market right uh yeah yeah very competitive but we're you know

00:58:56.900 know we're competitive people yeah I get it and so you're putting your brand on this uh yeah yeah 0.92

00:59:02.120 it is yeah me and my business partner KSI that's not shit Jeff is going like this I don't know I 0.93

00:59:13.620 don't know what it means I have no idea what that means yeah oh oh oh oh we have numbers 0.82

00:59:21.880 actually that's pretty good

00:59:24.340 how is he supposed to get that

00:59:26.020 it doesn't have that 1.00

00:59:27.440 that bullshit 0.99

00:59:28.860 fake sugar aftertaste thing 0.99

00:59:32.280 this tastes good

00:59:34.080 thank you

00:59:34.740 it's doing very well

00:59:36.740 I'll tell you the sales

00:59:38.540 two months in we sold 10 million bottles

00:59:42.140 10 million bottles

00:59:43.640 how many dollars

00:59:44.800 math's not really

00:59:47.680 why don't you say it

00:59:48.660 10 million

00:59:51.500 dollars no no i mean no it's and how are you getting distribution yeah walmart target kroger

00:59:58.300 cvs vitamin shop g and so they approach they built this business up then approached you to

01:00:02.080 be a brand ambassador no no started it from the ground really yeah we worked on it for you know

01:00:05.880 eight months behind the scenes that's pretty good because in this category getting distribution is

01:00:09.780 everything it is everything that's why it works we are manufacturer and our partners so you don't

01:00:15.280 lend your brand to this or people just know your prime like how does this work no no no um yeah

01:00:20.540 Well, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a co-founder with, uh, uh, if I look, if I go online and look

01:00:24.500 at the advertising, this is you, are you all over it?

01:00:26.420 Yeah.

01:00:26.780 A hundred percent.

01:00:27.280 So that's, that, you know, that makes sense to me.

01:00:29.420 If you have equity in it and you're promoting it and it's an entrepreneurial vision, which

01:00:34.640 it is, and you've achieved that in sales, the, the, the thing you got to do with these

01:00:39.960 kinds of, of beverage models, you got to get yourself to 50 million in sales.

01:00:45.540 Cause at 50 million, you're starting to encroach on share of the big boys.

01:00:49.200 and what happens then is they want to buy you yeah but it doesn't work till it's 50

01:00:56.060 on the way to 50 they're going to do everything in their power to crush you and get you off the

01:01:00.840 shelf yeah and so that's what you're going to be fighting it's such a competitive space because

01:01:05.380 the shelf is completely loaded with competitors and you know who they are yep and they don't like

01:01:10.020 dirty little startups like you yep but you have a competitive advantage because your brand

01:01:14.380 but you've got to run till you're at 50 once you're at 50 it's very defensible so you got

01:01:18.860 to get more distribution yeah we have some we have some amazing things planned i mean honestly

01:01:23.320 we just scratched the surface in terms of what we're capable of doing yeah my partner is the

01:01:28.700 biggest uh influencer celebrity in the united kingdom we still haven't launched there those

01:01:33.600 numbers aren't so you're going international okay i mean i you know i probably focus more

01:01:37.760 on domestic because if you've got 10 it's proof of concept it's hard to get a million in this

01:01:42.600 category people struggle like crazy but if you can actually break through and i have to say the

01:01:47.860 product doesn't take it tastes good so you're going to get repeat you know repeat purchase

01:01:51.460 well what we're seeing is the every single week there's the sales go up yeah by a drastic

01:01:57.300 percentage and is it is that a health claim you're making or is it a boost or what what really is

01:02:01.780 i wouldn't i mean it is a hydration right it's it's a it's a very healthy low calorie low sugar

01:02:07.520 hydration beverage right now you're on target with the 25 calories people are freaking out when

01:02:11.740 they're drinking 160 calories per bottle of gatorade 160 calories yeah i mean i know 24 grams

01:02:16.580 sort of and that's when you're trying to count calories it's a lot of people are when they're

01:02:20.380 working out particularly training programs you don't want it's this is perfect 25 calories so

01:02:25.340 that was the idea i mean when i see 25 calories i immediately think oh it's going to taste like 0.90

01:02:28.740 shit it's going to have that you know fake sugary fake long aftertaste yeah this does not have that

01:02:34.600 and i think you're achieving it with just a small amount of sugar that's it so congrats on this but 0.99

01:02:39.740 man if you got 10 you got to get to 50 and you've got about i'd say 18 months to get to 50 50 million

01:02:44.680 bottles no dollars they're gonna do that we will hit that in the next three months yeah because

01:02:49.600 because the uk there's another one of him in the uk that may even you guys are so you know who you

01:02:55.040 are in the uk so you you they know who you are in the uk but this guy is the force of nature he's

01:03:01.880 you made an international name in boxing that's what happened to you because of this guy really

01:03:07.340 my business partner we we boxed we fought twice and then we're no longer our enemies and we're

01:03:12.120 friends of business partners i mean i wanted to ask you about that because most people don't

01:03:16.060 understand the boxing industry if you want to call it that it seems to me like it's 95 promotion 0.98

01:03:23.140 and then you yeah then you end up in the ring where you can get the shit kicked out of you

01:03:27.720 yeah which is high risk on health yeah so it's it's a really high stakes game would you go do 0.94

01:03:34.180 that again are you done with that craziness it's funny the answer is yes you do it again the answer 0.98

01:03:39.240 Well, how many times do you want to have to shit pound it out of you? 1.00

01:03:41.500 Let me tell you how many times until I have a fucking win. 1.00

01:03:45.400 So a lot of times. 0.99

01:03:47.980 I'm 0-1-1, dude.

01:03:49.500 My professional boxing record is 0-1-1, which is not great.

01:03:52.840 So is there a strategy to protecting your brain when you're out there?

01:03:56.360 Don't get hit.

01:03:57.480 Yeah. 0.97

01:03:59.080 Bob and weave.

01:04:00.160 That's not that easy.

01:04:01.460 It's funny.

01:04:01.860 I just did WrestleMania this past weekend.

01:04:05.560 And people love wrestling.

01:04:06.660 I'm sure you know the wrestling fans are crazy.

01:04:08.460 crazy devoted and loyal and it's so much more fun it's much safer than boxing and optically it's

01:04:15.480 just as badass if not more badass doing these crazy moves and so i'm you know i'm having the

01:04:20.620 conversation with myself is like what do i do would do i pursue this maybe wrestling career

01:04:25.880 uh and and preserve the sanctity of my health in my head well that seems to me the balance because

01:04:32.100 you've got a brand you're building a business you have everything in the world to live for

01:04:36.620 you can't lose your marbles like you got to stay sharp yeah so every time you get in the ring you're

01:04:42.340 taking huge risk i mean you're extending the brand i get it but one bad punch and you you know it's

01:04:49.920 going to change your life forever which i don't that's a huge risk for me i mean you got to have

01:04:54.180 balls to do it in the first place but i might let my uh my brother i mean i i don't think you need

01:04:59.560 to do that anymore to extend your brand yeah i think you kind of ellipsed it already and it's

01:05:04.880 hard to do it's really hard to build that franchise and then maintain it because people

01:05:09.380 want to get more content from you they'll understand new directions you're doing and

01:05:13.320 what i found is if you're just brutally honest and people trust what you think and say it just

01:05:19.880 keeps extending your brand yeah that's it i'll take a page out of your book there for sure well

01:05:24.700 i i just did i found my own path i just you know it goes back to my lesson my mother gave me once

01:05:30.340 she said when i was young never lie and you won't have to remember what you said yeah and you know

01:05:37.120 i got caught in horrible lies when i was young then i said why am i doing this to myself i gotta

01:05:41.540 stop so i just tell the truth all the time now it gets me in trouble but i never have to remember

01:05:45.640 what i said it's gonna be the truth in a month it's gonna be the truth in two years and i think

01:05:49.200 that extends the trust between yourself and people that follow you you have a lot of wise things from

01:05:55.460 your mom and dad yeah well well my original father died when he's 37 my stepfather gave me a lot of

01:06:01.300 business acumen but my mother was really into being you know independent and that's what i

01:06:09.000 think is very important do you think that's why you lead more towards women because you've seen

01:06:12.900 your mom do so yeah maybe i mean you know lebanese families are very matriarchal they're very they're

01:06:18.920 run by the women in the family and your grandmother's a big persona in your family they always

01:06:23.460 have sunday dinners if you don't show up you burn in hell for the rest of your life you know that

01:06:27.300 kind of thing it's actually it's a very family oriented thing and you don't realize how ingraining

01:06:32.520 that is when you're you know nine ten years old but that's what we do in my family now like you

01:06:37.020 just kind of goes generation after generation i try and hang out with my kids every weekend you

01:06:41.020 know we get to do it in different cities i'm going up to new york this weekend hang out with my

01:06:44.940 daughter and my wife we're gonna go hit some shows and stuff and cool you know do that i was gonna

01:06:48.500 say what do you do for fun how do you yeah distract broadway is open again um was going to

01:06:53.200 see that new one with matthew broderick and jessica parker he just announced today he's got

01:06:57.320 covet so that bums me but i'm still going to go to the show i got tickets yeah yeah you ever go

01:07:02.840 fishing i do i do i love fishing but you know it's um a lot of people don't know when you go

01:07:09.560 fishing out in the ocean a lot of people get seasick so you got to know that the crew you're

01:07:14.020 going out with have done this before because if you lose sight of land if you're going out for big

01:07:20.080 you know big game you're going to be out in the middle of the ocean with the rollers i can handle

01:07:24.500 it but a lot of people can't i can't yeah so so that then i i go out with maybe one other person

01:07:30.540 that i've done it with before we go straight out for miles and when you get a big one it's an

01:07:35.760 incredible experience yeah you know you gotta gotta let it go but it's worth taking a picture

01:07:40.200 For sure.

01:07:40.640 But that's the answer.

01:07:41.760 Can I ask you a personal question?

01:07:43.580 Sure.

01:07:44.500 What's your skincare routine look like? 1.00

01:07:46.460 You have incredible fucking skin, dude. 0.99

01:07:48.700 You know, it's just fantastic. 1.00

01:07:52.040 Lebanese have dark skin and it helps.

01:07:55.820 My mother, you know, never aged.

01:07:57.840 It was amazing.

01:07:58.720 She looked terrific. 0.91

01:07:59.620 Did she age quick and then stopped aging? 1.00

01:08:02.300 Because like Middle Easterners, bro, I looked 45 at the age of five or six, but I just stopped. 1.00

01:08:08.100 she taught me something years ago say stay out of the sun like you know really don't fry yourself 1.00

01:08:13.740 in the sun you get skin damage doing that and i've always tried to avoid that you know if

01:08:18.220 listen i don't want to fry the dome i got to make sure that it's covered all the time

01:08:22.460 yeah so the dome of desire is well taken care of that's it you know your iq i don't i really don't

01:08:29.040 um you know you think it's important i don't think so i mean i i think everyday life tests you

01:08:34.780 you know either i had dyslexia and i still do and you know that was a it held me back

01:08:39.680 i couldn't read and uh it was falling back in school but dyslexia is a weird thing i can read

01:08:45.940 a book upside down in a mirror like that's very strange what like it's a superpower that's how

01:08:51.200 they told me and said stop feeling bad about yourself just start reading the books in a

01:08:54.820 mirror upside down you ever try that georgie it's no yeah i'm being serious you know it's a crazy

01:08:59.780 thing to do but it then you can eventually you get over those things you figure out how to deal

01:09:05.800 with them dyslexia i have it really bad yeah extremely bad actually it's uh i'm i'm believe

01:09:10.620 it or not the first time i'm actually admitting this i'm writing a book yeah and the reason i'm

01:09:14.040 writing the book is because it's like a self-help book uh spirituality wise and uh the first page

01:09:18.580 is is dedicated to to the devil because really in the second grade uh i completely dismissed

01:09:26.120 me ever reading or writing it was traumatizing scaring uh pass out because you couldn't do it

01:09:32.000 yeah there was a game called popcorn yeah where they go popcorn mike and mike has to read till

01:09:37.840 this day if i hear the word popcorn i literally my stomach drops because like every kid would do it

01:09:42.520 recently yeah recently uh i got over it and uh the reason i dedicated it to him is because i truly

01:09:50.200 believe that this book that i'm going to be putting out to help people in their in their weakest form

01:09:54.440 try to find God I think that in the very young youth of mine I think the devil did not want me

01:10:00.160 to write books interesting and when I met Tony Robbins I I looked at him and I go whatever he's 0.97

01:10:06.480 doing it is just it resonated with my heart and I laid up the whole night and I go fuck dude was

01:10:11.600 I supposed to write a book and all of a sudden I just started writing away writing away writing 0.95

01:10:16.020 away and then I gave it to a few friends to read a bit and they just had goosebumps all over and

01:10:20.160 they're like yo you have to finish this that's cool that's a very cool we'll have two people on

01:10:23.780 this podcast you wrote books a dyslexic writing a book let's hope you have an editor can i ask you

01:10:28.220 and when you were young did you ever be walking around all of a sudden the whole world would 0.86

01:10:31.560 shift 90 degrees on you i'm joking i'm a fucking lost i don't know where you are i i it's one of 0.85

01:10:37.140 the symptoms of hard dyslexia you just everything pivots 90 degrees and you look around saying i'm 0.95

01:10:41.660 lost i don't know and then it comes back that happened to me quite a few times i had i had

01:10:45.440 other things happen i i my social cues were significantly different than people so like

01:10:50.880 when people are talking

01:10:52.120 I

01:10:52.460 like and this sounds really weird

01:10:53.720 but I know how to talk to somebody

01:10:55.140 and get them to say things

01:10:56.140 that I want them to say

01:10:56.980 through

01:10:58.000 like it's

01:10:59.420 it's weird

01:11:00.760 like I

01:11:01.120 I could read

01:11:02.000 give me to say something

01:11:03.120 um 1.00

01:11:04.020 George you're so stupid 1.00

01:11:05.320 George you're so stupid 1.00

01:11:05.900 try to make 1.00

01:11:07.340 try to make

01:11:07.800 uh

01:11:08.140 but yeah

01:11:09.140 so I actually do have

01:11:10.520 I have a

01:11:11.160 I have one question

01:11:12.120 that it is personal as well

01:11:13.500 uh

01:11:14.140 I've met

01:11:14.880 my biggest fear is

01:11:15.980 God willing

01:11:16.360 being very successful

01:11:17.560 and then losing my kids

01:11:19.360 uh soul

01:11:20.060 in the process

01:11:20.600 because how am I supposed to like raise no no for real because I've never met I know rarely like

01:11:26.920 one out of ten really wealthy people do I see their kids come out to be really well how do you

01:11:32.800 raise your kids I see in a humble light so that's entitlement that's the that's the uh so let me

01:11:40.300 tell you a story on that one that saved my ass and you know I've applied to my own family when I was 0.95

01:11:45.460 graduating college my mother came to the graduation she said I've got great news I'm coming to the 0.97

01:11:49.840 graduation but I also have some other news no more checks and I said what do you mean because

01:11:57.260 she'd been paying for college and my rent and everything and she said the dead bird under the

01:12:03.000 nest never learns how to fly I said what the hell does that mean she said no more checks I'm not

01:12:09.040 writing any more checks you're gonna have to figure this out on your own you know we've I paid for 0.96

01:12:12.180 your education from I paid for your birth the last day of college we're done and I thought shit I

01:12:18.220 I mean, because I really had no job or anything and I had a tough couple of years. 0.92

01:12:22.560 I mean, I couldn't even pay the rent, but it worked out and I got motivated.

01:12:26.500 And, you know, obviously I'm pretty happy about the outcome.

01:12:29.380 So when I had my first big liquidity event, when the learning company got sold, it got

01:12:34.580 sold for about 4.2 billion and there was 10 of us that were founders. 0.99

01:12:38.180 So we woke up the next morning and said, shit, we're rich. 0.99

01:12:41.660 Like we didn't even think about it. 1.00

01:12:43.020 We came back to work and kept going.

01:12:44.620 but when i went over that was in cambridge and i went over to boston and saw the lawyers and said

01:12:49.360 look i want to set up a trust um that basically provides for my kids because they were like

01:12:55.740 four and six at the time and um it pays for everything for them um until they finish college

01:13:03.620 and then they get nothing and he said what the hell is that i said well it's it's it's a way

01:13:09.180 that i can provide for them to set them up in life but not entitle them i was taking a cue

01:13:14.360 for my mother's strategy same idea and i went home that day and i told my wife i was going to do this

01:13:20.280 and i sat down with my two kids and i said here's how this trust works and everything's good until

01:13:24.760 even if i get run over by a truck you're good till you finish college and they went yeah that's great 0.88

01:13:28.520 that you know didn't give a shit about it they were four and six so i can't believe you sat 0.57

01:13:35.620 you're four and six but i had to disclose what i'd done years later years later we're still in 0.92

01:13:41.520 Boston and my son is doing really poorly in high school. He is sucking and just not applying 0.91

01:13:48.220 himself. And his marks are terrible. And the way to look at high school, it's just like a test to 0.99

01:13:54.300 get into college. You got to pass a few things. And so one day he says to me, I'll never forget

01:14:01.240 this conversation. Lynn and I were going out to a movie that night. And he says, hey, dad,

01:14:05.780 one of my friends was telling me about his trust fund and um what does my trust fund look like and

01:14:12.440 i said well i don't know what your friend's fund but here's how yours works if mom and i get run

01:14:17.360 over by a truck you're good until you finish high school because it doesn't look like you're going

01:14:22.520 to college he said what do you mean i said well the trust only pays till you finish college then

01:14:27.600 it's it's done he says what do you mean it's done i said it means no more checks and i said to him 0.97

01:14:32.900 the dead bird under the nest never learns how to fly and he said what the fuck does that mean 0.58

01:14:38.660 i said what it means is you should start thinking about taking advantage of this now 0.84

01:14:43.260 because you're not and you're you're not i don't know what's going to happen to you you're not even

01:14:48.240 a finished high school here and i think at that moment that that the lesson of life you know given

01:14:55.140 to me by my mother must he saw the abyss he saw the darkness he saw the situation he was in and 0.66

01:15:01.480 went shit this is bad and so he he knuckled down and he started getting into uh in what he was 0.97

01:15:08.940 into and he he eventually became an electrical engineer and he he was at the top of his class 0.99

01:15:15.120 all through you know college and right into engineering and in all these electrical engineering

01:15:20.880 uh cohorts they all build a combustion f1 race car and an electric one and they race them all

01:15:28.640 around the world against each other because that's how they're learning if they're interested

01:15:32.220 in electrical engineering you're building that f1 formula car and every year mit would win

01:15:38.720 and because they always built the best car well in trevor's case he became the captain of the team

01:15:43.780 and he worked on the software that released the energy out of the battery in a different way and

01:15:48.240 he beat mit and so the tesla guys came over and said who are you guys and he went to college in

01:15:55.040 mcgill he said we're the mcgill team and he said you're all hired at tesla all of you the whole

01:15:59.480 team that's the way he works that's where he lives in san francisco so that's the lesson of the dead

01:16:05.780 bird right there yeah yeah applicable advice too i'm gonna do that yeah yeah because you can take

01:16:10.920 care of them in health issues but if you guarantee them a free ride and they never have to take any

01:16:15.440 risk they won't yeah and you'll destroy their lives it's the worst curse you could do everybody

01:16:19.340 knows people that have really screwed up rich kids it's and they made that mistake they just

01:16:24.260 made it too easy for them it's not going to happen to my family and my trust goes you know

01:16:28.240 in multi-generations when he has kids even if they're not married it takes care of them to

01:16:32.660 right the end of college yeah that comfort that that those kids have is such a demon i mean all

01:16:38.760 all of your your drive and perseverance is is you know a result a result of struggle and and and

01:16:45.300 yeah and failure and getting over it and getting up and doing your thing i'm not going to mention

01:16:49.320 his name but we we do know who this gentleman is he came from he was a trust fund kid and he did

01:16:54.200 a lot of drugs that got out of it and then it comes always bad it's always bad always bad and

01:16:59.600 i asked him i go dude why would you throw your life away well like respectfully like you had 0.99

01:17:05.000 everything at your fingertips why the fuck would you blow it and when he looked me in my eyes and 0.99

01:17:10.340 said how would you feel if everything you worked for meant nothing because you knew you would get 1.00

01:17:16.140 it regardless and i was like whoa that's that's a broken person it's a broken person but not drugs

01:17:22.340 never work out it is a tough tough tough you don't like weed marijuana you know here's the

01:17:28.580 problem for me and i'm not going to do the thing where you know i inhale i didn't inhale and all 0.93

01:17:33.700 that shit here's the actual practical problem with it it is legal in some states and not in others 0.64

01:17:40.200 so it's a schedule one narcotic and i'm not against it or for it don't care but there's a 0.99

01:17:47.260 a law called the rico statue and if you transport a schedule one narcotic from a state where it's

01:17:54.200 allowed to one that isn't you have breached the rico statue which is a federal law yeah yeah

01:17:59.940 wait let me i don't think they're going to bring rico on somebody for no so driving over my lawyers

01:18:04.940 in washington told me the way this came to me is even with a couple of sharks we started looking

01:18:11.140 and investing in cannabis i was really interested particularly in hydroponic grow labs so we had a

01:18:18.940 great opportunity in upstate vermont it was like a reit it was a fantastic investment 11 a year

01:18:24.580 yield in cash i love the deal i sent it to the lawyers and he said to me what are you doing

01:18:30.480 are you out of your mind this if somebody uses this facility and transports what they've grown

01:18:37.860 over you could be complicit in a schedule one narcotic what oh yeah what does that mean what

01:18:43.800 happens federal prison 22 years federal felony well so so as of last week i'm not gonna look

01:18:49.600 so good in 22 years after being your skin will probably still look good like so all this stuff

01:18:53.760 about cannabis we got to get it off the schedule one narcotic so as of last week uh a bill passed

01:18:58.820 i believe house that will make uh it federally decriminalized okay so it's it's all it's got

01:19:04.800 Because there's a lot of medicinal attributes of it, I think, that have merit.

01:19:07.920 And I think there's a whole industry that wants to get going on it.

01:19:11.160 I can't invest in it until they get rid of that Schedule 1 narcotic thing.

01:19:14.460 From a federal standpoint.

01:19:15.900 Well, the RICO statute's federal.

01:19:18.100 Correct.

01:19:18.640 And you basically, if somebody, we had a fantastic deal and I was all in.

01:19:23.160 And when they explained it to me, they said, look, Kevin, you're a high profile guy.

01:19:26.640 If some ambitious state's attorneys want to go after you, they're going to win.

01:19:31.080 I see now why they said that, because you're talking about the movement of large amounts

01:19:36.200 of-

01:19:37.200 Got it.

01:19:38.200 We had a massive hydroponics facility.

01:19:39.200 Got it.

01:19:40.200 So that makes sense.

01:19:41.200 I was just asking if you smoked weed, man. 0.99

01:19:42.200 I didn't think you were fucking pushing it. 0.98

01:19:45.200 There's no way on the record I'm going to say that. 0.98

01:19:47.920 Let me forget it.

01:19:48.920 Oh, okay.

01:19:49.920 We'll talk later.

01:19:50.920 You shouldn't smoke.

01:19:51.920 It's bad for you.

01:19:52.920 That's my answer.

01:19:53.920 Yeah.

01:19:54.920 Don't do drugs.

01:19:55.920 I just recently-

01:19:56.920 You know what I say?

01:19:57.920 Just say no.

01:19:58.920 Yeah.

01:19:59.920 all right we've taken up a lot of your time dude um i appreciate you i really appreciate you i've

01:20:04.540 really enjoyed this you guys are a lot of fun this is terrific you know and i congratulations

01:20:08.660 to you you built a hell of a franchise thanks man you know what you got to think about now

01:20:11.900 and a great way to part about this the the more famous you get the more risk you have when you

01:20:18.960 make a mistake that's the way you got to look at it i know you don't want to get canceled like 0.99

01:20:23.060 after all this work for what you've built it must be really hard every day given the shit you do 0.90

01:20:29.300 to make sure you don't go offside not so much because i made a lot of mistakes early in my 0.83

01:20:35.540 career and my life and was able to learn from them pivot adapt and be better and so i can safely say

01:20:42.200 i have a very good head on my shoulders and more importantly i'm surrounded by

01:20:46.960 people who are smarter than me and in many cases better than me at certain things

01:20:51.640 and the insulation and growth that i've learned because of my failures have put me in a place

01:20:56.560 where I'm really, really comfortable with. 0.94

01:20:58.100 You have to weed out the bullshit 0.99

01:21:00.040 that comes at you every day. 1.00

01:21:01.240 Yeah, well, it's mostly just from Mike.

01:21:04.360 Well, I'm just, in all seriousness,

01:21:05.920 it's the stuff that can take you down.

01:21:07.100 And after you've achieved this success,

01:21:09.140 you don't want that to happen.

01:21:10.020 It's so hard to achieve what you've achieved.

01:21:12.560 It's virtually impossible.

01:21:14.480 Everybody wants to try and do it,

01:21:15.740 particularly the base you've built on social.

01:21:17.780 You gotta be real careful.

01:21:19.500 Yeah, for sure.

01:21:20.120 And every day, you know, I think about it

01:21:22.820 And, you know, it's, you gotta, you gotta stay focused, man.

01:21:26.700 You gotta stay focused.

01:21:27.360 Yep, absolutely.

01:21:27.800 And I wouldn't get back in the ring. 1.00

01:21:29.060 I think you're nuts. 0.98

01:21:29.880 I wouldn't do that. 0.98

01:21:30.520 Thanks, man.

01:21:30.960 I just, I want to win.

01:21:32.260 I want one win.

01:21:33.340 You know, you keep trying for that.

01:21:34.700 And you're like, you got all this.

01:21:36.480 You're winning already. 0.91

01:21:37.520 Or just take a bum, take a bum fight. 0.99

01:21:39.960 Take a bum fight.

01:21:40.800 Take me behind the, listen, I'm going to manifest this.

01:21:43.620 I'd like to be at Shark Tank one day once I make hundreds of millions of dollars as a shark, a guest shark.

01:21:48.920 I think it'd be cool.

01:21:49.720 We hear you.

01:21:50.400 That's very interesting.

01:21:51.140 I will pass that on

01:21:52.160 to the powers that be

01:21:53.020 something to think about

01:21:53.760 but I got some work to do

01:21:55.220 let me make some money first

01:21:56.140 but an under 30 boss

01:21:57.500 I think you've made

01:21:58.320 a little money

01:21:58.840 you can probably afford

01:21:59.860 a couple of episodes

01:22:00.780 of Shark Tank

01:22:01.440 I could do it now

01:22:02.040 sure

01:22:02.260 you know it's interesting

01:22:03.040 the guest sharks

01:22:03.900 that I know for this season

01:22:05.480 because every year

01:22:07.640 we're getting

01:22:08.000 you know new talent

01:22:08.920 are really

01:22:10.520 really really

01:22:11.580 different

01:22:12.160 than the past

01:22:13.320 and so

01:22:14.120 I think the producers

01:22:15.060 are taking some

01:22:15.760 really interesting directions

01:22:16.920 yeah

01:22:17.220 and

01:22:17.940 every year is different

01:22:20.620 every year is different

01:22:21.780 and you know

01:22:23.060 I think this year

01:22:23.980 is going to be insane

01:22:24.700 so you'd probably 0.56

01:22:25.560 be a good candidate

01:22:26.200 for that

01:22:26.580 I'm going to

01:22:27.040 cool

01:22:27.300 I'm going to throw 0.99

01:22:27.880 your name into the bucket 0.98

01:22:28.860 thanks man

01:22:29.540 dude that'd be awesome

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - June 28, 2022

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