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00:01:42.540I'm Lacey Mosley, author, actor, stand-up comedian, creator, and host of Scam Goddess Podcast, the true crime comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud, and those who practice it.
00:01:52.580Each week I bring on an amazing guest.
00:23:02.160Mormon has such a bad rep that I think everybody likes to avoid it.0.98
00:23:06.420But mom and dad joined when I was young and I seen them change tremendously from drinking, smoking, partying to like, boom, off switch, family, raising kids the best they could.
00:28:33.900I saw you kind of pull back and make that shift.
00:28:37.200And I have to commend you because not a lot of people can do that unless, you know, they shoot themselves in the foot like I did or like a lot of YouTubers end up doing that.
00:28:45.160You just drive yourself into the ground.
00:28:46.900Well, another another problem was leading up to my mom's passing.
00:28:52.100I was constantly talking to mom and dad.
00:28:53.700They're factory workers since I could walk their factory workers, dude, in the grind, hard labor.
00:28:59.460and I constantly talked to them about how much money is enough before you start enjoying your
00:29:06.020life like how much do you need how much could I help you obtain to where you enjoy life like do
00:29:13.080we just work until we die and I had this talk so much man and watching my mom pass before she got
00:29:19.460to enjoy life and go to Alaska and do these things that she dreamed of doing it broke my heart to
00:29:26.520another level how much money before you start enjoying life how much money do i need in the
00:29:31.040bank before i take my wife and my kids and we go enjoy life right like how much do i actually need
00:29:37.080yeah it's not that much was it also was it just the money also or did you find yourself
00:29:42.100like uh we've talked to other daily vloggers and people in the space like did you find yourself
00:29:46.800addicted to that to that return of viewership and audience and always satisfying other people
00:29:52.280before yourself and the youtube algorithm did you find yourself feeling like a like kind of
00:29:55.900a slave to all of it sometimes absolutely yeah of course it's an addiction 100 we didn't go to
00:30:01.680bed together for three years probably literally because i film and edit all night and that was
00:30:05.660my grind um but but there was a switch um and even now we don't film much but there's sometimes
00:30:12.960kids want to do something cool like whoa we don't have a camera like what are you what are you doing
00:30:16.580oh easy yeah wait a second it's still in my brain like it might be for life but my my my ability to
00:30:23.800try to kick it off and just enjoy life is uh it's it's different it's different yeah god i was
00:30:31.780gonna pivot a little bit i was gonna talk about the podcast because that was away from the pivot
00:30:35.680as well what do you got he started a podcast i know i kind of want to go with my pivot go with
00:30:41.360yours any pivot would be great uh okay so i think about this i'm not sure how much you extrapolated
00:30:48.360your career when you were doing youtube i don't know if you knew you were going to go from pranks
00:30:53.380to vlogs to family channel vlogs and have this really interesting uh rich arc but i think about
00:31:00.760that uh i think about my future i think about what it looks like i think about what type of content
00:31:06.780i'll be creating at what level because at the end of the day i the one thing i am is a creator
00:31:12.000i'm a creator you're a performer creator of moments performer creator moment you know it's
00:31:16.560it's synonymous um and thank you um but the family channel i keep playing with this idea
00:31:24.100was it hard for you did you have some sort of conversation with yourself and i'm sure brit
00:31:29.260because the moment that you show your family your kids on camera and and you're putting yourself
00:31:34.280and the people you love most in your life out there online for all to see for all to judge for
00:31:39.980all to make comments about what is that like and how do you make that decision
00:31:45.560it's not a problem until it's a problem see it wasn't a problem until we got to new levels
00:31:52.320of vlogging that nobody had seen before nobody had seen five million views every upload every day
00:31:59.260nobody had that so we were entering this new level of problems that i don't think anybody
00:32:04.660expected i didn't i never thought we'd even be big youtubers um it became um i think because
00:32:12.280of the kids especially we had um five years 24-hour police officers at our house um we we hired most
00:32:20.320of the entire county police department worked for us the fire department everybody was on call at
00:32:26.040all times um so we took nothing for granted we took like we we did everything possible we could
00:32:31.260to protect our family um but yeah i don't think anybody could have called the success we had like
00:32:38.720it was just kind of an accident like i worked hard but i didn't daily vloggers the biggest ones
00:32:44.040was a million that was like the prank for uh jesse and gina wellens they were crushing it
00:32:49.340nobody knew that you could go above that yeah so for us it was just like uh who knew but now
00:32:56.380you know are are your kids seeing the effects of like getting famous young their home their
00:33:02.000homeschooled i assume yeah public school's a nightmare we had to pull them out um like what
00:33:06.740was happening like like if i have to go in to pick the kids up it's just mayhem right it'd be like
00:33:13.200you know oh that's wild yeah it was it was it was wild um so homeschool big time um which kind of
00:33:22.340sucks dude for their social skills i presume yeah like homeschool kids straight up can be weird
00:33:29.660socially they can straight up um and that's what that's the only thing i learned in school0.98
00:33:35.980with social skills i know to speak as a human to people without that man it's you know you can get
00:33:41.380you can be a little off with with the way you speak was the sacrifice worth it yeah yeah because
00:33:48.060now my kids are getting to live like a different life they're getting to live a really cool life
00:33:55.120and uh you know noah's 17 now he's almost which is which is crazy i was wondering
00:34:00.280he's a full-grown man looking dude um so like they're growing man they're growing and
00:34:07.760i love it yeah yeah yeah well not to go you know dark but i there was a turning point right where
00:34:15.240where your safety was compromised yeah and i believe that was the reason that you were absent
00:34:21.500for so long correct yeah we didn't we didn't quit youtube we were told to get off youtube yeah by
00:34:28.520the fbi yeah this is legit very legit and you you've i'm assuming addressed this on their
00:34:35.060population yeah we haven't really talked much about it um for one this type of stuff goes on
00:34:43.340constantly to all types of people um and i hate the idea of like inspiring other people to do
00:34:49.440these things but i will say this people that are doing these things are it's it's it's kind of wild
00:34:55.560to think about but they're they're being monitored like this stuff's getting real hot but the fbi
00:35:00.520works in crazy ways man crazy they spend time watching oh they'll find you they spend time
00:35:07.440watching you man so i just i just caution everybody like you're doing this kind of stuff
00:35:12.040like you're probably on a radar already and you have no clue we've gotten swatted a couple times
00:35:17.340as i'm sure every creator has yep uh i'd say nine times out of ten three four years down the line
00:35:23.660they catch the guy he spends he spends 10 years in prison it happens hope that prank call was worth
00:35:27.800it bucko you know the fbi sharp when they want something they will find it yeah man i i hope
00:35:33.120i hope like the best for these type of people man i don't know what's going through their head but
00:35:38.400it doesn't end good it just doesn't so what happened yeah we didn't give any context yeah
00:35:44.420so nasty stalker yeah yeah we deal with some stock and we've had lots of them over the years
00:35:49.340but you know the difference between this is an okay stalker and this isn't an okay stalker right
00:35:55.240um yeah man the fbi jumped on a case and uh it was it was a long painful case for many reasons one
00:36:04.660we had to just take it you have to just take it right because if we come out and say anything
00:36:10.480then there's a chance he'll quit the stalker will quit if we scare him off the fbi needs this person
00:36:16.660to keep going dig deeper get in more trouble you were involved in a sting operation oh it was
00:36:22.720nasty bro and there's a lot a lot of people involved um scary stuff though man like the
00:36:29.720worst things you can think of yeah it was really scary what was what was some of the stuff that
00:36:34.020you was so uh just a short list of things um the the this person was able to um get into our on
00:36:41.660star lock our car on and off shut our lights on and off um he'd send us pictures to our phone of
00:36:47.200all our cameras at the house um he would uh you know there'd be texts like oh he was like a hacker
00:36:53.080i'm gonna hang your family on cross burn your houses down and like scary stuff man and when
00:36:58.240you got kids it's like there's no play with that there's no room for play like i don't even care0.99
00:37:02.560if you're joking like there's no um could get into anything dude could literally text me what's
00:37:08.280my accounts could and you didn't know where he was coming from or who he was yeah well i kind of
00:37:14.420knew who he was but you can't you can't do anything you need to let the fbi do it right was there ever
00:37:20.100a time where you weren't comfortable with that anymore where you where you got to a point where
00:37:23.440you're like yo it's extermination time i'm in dad mode like identifying the worst thing ever i just
00:37:28.200trusted the up they kept telling me to make sure that i just be patient with them but you also had
00:37:32.960you had high level security at your house we had the best that i could that i could do yeah
00:37:37.760yeah we did like i don't know 1.5 million dollars for security yeah man so what so what expensive
00:37:46.540so what ends up happening with this guy currently um there's still a case it's still a yeah big big
00:37:54.980felony charges do they have a guy this long of of yeah yeah yeah just oh yeah just a weirdo yeah
00:38:01.440full raids dude just a guy oh uh there's there's many people but there's one particular that's
00:38:06.700yeah that's heavy why why why you that was that was what confused me the most like i i'm watching
00:38:12.860all this unfold and i'm like why attack rome like you live in your quiet little life in ohio with
00:38:17.640your family trying to be positive online well that's what i try to that's what i try to tell
00:38:21.520people whether you're controversial or not you're gonna have hate you know you gotta just you gotta
00:38:26.900i had the uber driver on the way over here knew you and jake and we were talking about controversy
00:38:32.620and what sells and he was like whether you're good or bad you're gonna sell yeah i'm like that's me
00:38:37.160man i try to be so good and lift my job is to literally create better people dude i want to
00:38:43.440inspire you i want you to create a career i want you to do your best and then i go through fbi case
00:38:48.900and like it's scary stuff man yeah was it hate that he was exhibiting all like like was was it
00:38:55.240an obsession like why exactly most most all situations i've ever had is they're either
00:39:00.660in love with britney in love like they change your they they they turn our insurance off to
00:39:08.080all our cars we're driving with no insurance don't even know it right oh my god but then the
00:39:12.420but then the they change the marital status to britney single and then the email would be like
00:39:17.940you know i'm in your wife and like it's creepy stuff dude creepy like i don't know how i think
00:39:24.660it's demented so i was gonna say i had at what point i had some of this with lana because the
00:39:31.540the porn stars it's a whole different level i mean these guys get this immense obsession with
00:39:37.020their digital idol and so i was getting some of that kind of stuff like yo like we're and they
00:39:42.680would come to tailpiece house sometimes and throw stuff over the fence and that screamer name out
00:39:46.980yeah oh we had a couple zingers helicopters one guy drove his spray-painted car had some like
00:39:53.700weird cryptic message on the side like halfway over our driveway and into the fence helicopter
00:39:58.980came up it's you know when you sign up to be a creator there is no going back it's it's it's
00:40:05.240truly a real double-edged sword you can't become unfamous either like like for the rest of your0.73
00:40:10.940life even if you are fucking dead broken irrelevant you are still your face it's weird dude it's weird0.93
00:40:17.320and and now i don't have a single kid who knows who i am they're all full-grown full-grown dudes0.98
00:40:23.180and every single person says dude i used to watch you when i was a kid that's why right like i get
00:40:30.180told that i got told it yesterday it's that that's my viewership now as adults and that that's what
00:40:34.520pushed me to move to you know a new chapter is like try to capitalize on my audience now and
00:40:39.780you know inspire this is where they are podcasts yeah they're either driving to work or they're in
00:40:45.320college or in the gym and they're the full-grown humans now man you record in ohio with brit
00:40:51.180yeah yeah we have a yeah we we rock the podcast together it's brand new like we're little babies
00:40:56.720do you like it we're like barely figuring audio out dude we're like what do we do uh yeah we're
00:41:01.540babies and so fun it is so fun yeah you got that plaque real quick though yeah well i mean you got
00:41:08.360a little jump start yeah what do you guys talk about on it like what's the theme so for now since
00:41:13.800we're so new it's just depending on the guests like uh whoever's on whoever's on man share your
00:41:18.300story lift people um just had steve-o on and oh cool yeah we're just having whoever wants to come
00:41:24.220that has a story do they have to make it to ohio so unfortunately we're not mobile yet but i think
00:41:31.000the goal would be to get mobile yeah there's a way to do it there's a way to do it you could
00:41:34.400just bring mics around yeah and just it'll have to happen right ohio yeah it's come to ohio bro
00:41:39.680it's also not just ohio like you know i'm from ohio you're like from ohio well the studio is um
00:41:47.520Not yet, but it's got a place in downtown Columbus.
00:41:50.840You still go to that little bagel shop?
00:41:52.460Remember you took us to that little bagel shop?
00:41:53.940It was like a little coffee bagel shop.1.00