00:01:54.660He gets right up next to the microphone.
00:01:56.360I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
00:01:59.320You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
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00:09:34.200And the way you got down on your hips, the hip mobility and the strength and the way you got up with them.
00:09:38.980And he's not the biggest cat, but the predicament you were in and the way you got out of it was amazing.
00:09:44.240A lot of guys, you know, wouldn't have been there for that.
00:09:47.200I've seen guys, I'm not going to name any names, but I've seen guys that have, you know, completely missed guys or dropped guys in a situation like that.
00:09:55.600So the fact that you knew what to do and in a tenth, a hundredth of a second you were there, that's impressive.
00:24:18.560that that'd be the ultimate goal but you know as many accomplishments as i can accomplish in this
00:24:24.360you know in wwe that i just the more the better i've already done so much so uh so far
00:24:30.920it's kind of nice being in a position where i can watch other guys matches and maybe critique and
00:24:37.700help and answer questions and and so for the first time in my career i find myself being a little bit
00:24:44.040of uh gosh i don't even want to say the word um you know i guess a mentor to some people yeah you
00:24:49.460know like like i can i can i can pull a guy aside kind of like i dm'd you you know i'll like hey0.98
00:24:54.100man careful you know don't go out there and end up in a wheelchair you got a lot of shit going on0.68
00:24:59.160you know it'd be you would you know be doing a lot of podcasts only podcasts only exactly like0.91
00:25:05.240like you just you always got to be thinking of that next one well i can tell you i appreciate
00:25:10.340the advice and like that that knowledge only comes from people who have have done it and done
00:25:14.480it at the highest level um the way that you have developed since you started is also highly
00:25:20.740interesting it's it's really cool to hear that this passion sort of like developed for for
00:25:28.760wrestling especially because you're a third generation wrestler i don't know if you know
00:25:32.040this grandfather wrestled father wrestled massive wrestlers and very successful in their career
00:25:37.400except you didn't you didn't you didn't have that that feeling to want to go do it even though it
00:25:43.440was you know in in the lineage and then all of a sudden what changed that that that made you
00:25:50.360want to do this you know forever and be Randy Orton yeah growing up in the business I was always
00:25:55.560around it and I wasn't necessarily a fan until I was you know later on in high school and then
00:26:01.580you know i started watching pay-per-views but i never like in uh in 98 97 98 you know i was a
00:26:08.860junior and senior in high school and i'd watch this is when goldberg was doing his thing in the
00:26:13.620undefeated streak yeah i mean i'd get with my buddies and i'd watch goldberg jackhammer you
00:26:18.820know a guy through the ring oh my god goldberg and uh you know i'm 18 years old little did i
00:26:25.120know four years later i'd be wrestling the guy insane insane like like i can't i still it blows
00:26:31.100my mind uh but but but i never saw myself doing it my buddies would ask me and you know back to
00:26:37.640that confidence i never ever thought that i could do what my dad did never i gotta ask the why man
00:26:44.440you're six foot like what four two thirty like it it seems like everything's there the puzzle's
00:26:50.400there it was all up here you know physically i felt like as far as an athlete i came into my own
00:26:56.820you know after i started training for wrestling you know i'd played sports you know my whole life
00:27:02.440but i never really excelled in any one thing i amateur wrestled from the fourth grade up through
00:27:07.860high school but then i dropped it to play basketball i should have stuck with it yeah but
00:27:11.460you went to state twice i did i did yeah i i i had a successful amateur wrestling career in high
00:27:18.620school but like uh you know as far as some of these guys i mean i'm kurt angle olympic gold
00:27:24.980medalist brock lesnar bro jesus brock you know and the list goes on shelton benjamin all these
00:27:30.100guys they come from you know athletic i can never dream of being the athlete that they were so
00:27:35.180especially back then like if anyone knew that i couldn't do it it was me you know and and i think
00:27:40.880what happened is i gave the military a shot and that didn't go too well and then talk about that
00:27:48.680and then uh and then the uh you know working midnights at the gas station that wasn't really
00:27:54.800I wasn't really you know that wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be um so I was legitimate
00:28:02.000legitimate I'm 19 and I'm like hey dad what do you think yeah could you give somebody a call
00:28:09.320could I give this wrestling thing and he's like oh son I our name's been blackballed from this
00:28:14.240business and i guess you know he used to get in a little bit of a trouble my uncle wrestled as well
00:28:21.200uh rest in peace uncle barry but but um you know so he didn't think i they were going to welcome
00:28:27.120me with open arms or anything and it was the opposite in fact they were like oh my god bob
00:28:31.360you got a son jesus and my father still is highly regarded as one of the best back in his generation
00:28:38.320So for him to have a kid, and at the time, I believe the only other generational guy was The Rock, really, that was making any waves as a third-generation superstar.
00:28:50.000So, you know, here's another third-generation superstar, Bruce Prichard, Vince McMahon, all those guys.
00:28:55.240They looked at that and were like, okay, let's start training this guy, see what we can get.
00:28:59.980And that's where the confidence started to grow.
00:29:02.320i mean the people you were training with are among like literally the the best that yeah the
00:29:08.720business has ever had john cena blessed i was so blessed to be down there with guys like that uh
00:29:14.280batista shelton benjamin was down there um uh gosh was lesnar there at one point oh lesnar oh yeah0.92
00:29:20.600oh yeah i remember the day he came we were like what the fuck what is what is that yeah yeah i0.97
00:29:26.560remember so we're all we're all talking shit you know under our breath and and and and and here he0.99
00:29:33.040comes and back then there wasn't all you know we had one ring in a shitty warehouse and there was0.74
00:29:37.820like 12 of us so here comes lesnar we knew he was coming we get in practice we start doing the rope
00:29:43.740running drills where you just you know you just burn you just go and um he didn't hook the top
00:29:49.900rope as i'm sure you've been told make sure you get the arm over that top rope otherwise you're0.99
00:29:54.700gonna end up in the bleachers and sure enough that motherfucker um he leapt out of the ring0.99
00:30:01.920between the second third rope and took out like 20 metal chairs and then just popped up dusted0.99
00:30:07.840himself off and was like i bet y'all would like to see that again we were like it's cool you know
00:30:16.900do your thing you know but uh but like yeah i was down there with some amazing athletes and i learned
00:30:22.860so much do you think that talent exists today like where where are the people that look like
00:30:29.780you and john cena and batista and brock lesnar we got austin theory he's pretty ripped what is
00:30:37.400just a size thing that you're talking about i don't look at the athleticism right now i feel
00:30:42.020the athleticism true but well i think there's a lot of guys that get it um there's a lot of guys
00:30:48.500that get it i almost don't want to start naming names because then i'll feel bad i'll leave out
00:30:53.200you know a lot of guys and and and the list is too long as far as like guys we got now that could be
00:31:00.160great one day you know it's it's amazing man like if you look back at stone cold steve austin when
00:31:05.700he was stunning steve before he became stone cold steve austin as you know you know he looked a
00:31:11.580little different yeah he moved a little different he had long blonde hair he wasn't the same stone
00:31:16.120called steve austin you never know man we got a lot of gems in the back and it's just gonna take
00:31:21.340you know the right amount of pressure to turn them into a diamond man that's one of the coolest
00:31:25.900things about this business is the ability to evolve oh yeah and and and have these arcs um
00:31:32.960even recently with with dominic mysterio oh my god i'm so proud of him because i did my first
00:31:38.220wrestlemania against him and ray right and i remember thinking like how is this kid gonna
00:31:44.780get out of his dad's shadow like nothing about him as far as i can tell it right now is is like
00:31:50.700super wow factor and then he just grew out that mullet and became the most hated person in the
00:31:56.640w i think the longer the mullet is directly correlated to the heat i think it's all because
00:32:02.160of the mullet i really do no he uh so his dad and i are tight and uh you've worked with ray you met
00:32:11.020Ray Ray's you know he's probably the only guy back there that's friendlier than Omos you know
00:32:16.680um and uh just Ray took care of me back in the day and um for me so I wrestled Dom last Friday
00:32:25.060night on Raw I don't know if you guys saw it or not for sure but uh I was it was such a pleasure
00:32:30.740to be out there with him and and to uh just to get to be out there knowing like oh my god I know
00:32:37.320your dad's at home watching like i want to make your dad proud you know like it was it was a
00:32:41.840great feeling i am so proud of dom as well and i know exactly what you're talking about when he
00:32:46.660first started coming up and ray brought him around it's like oh what do we do this kid needs another0.61
00:32:53.200fucking 10 years and and you know he needs to go fight in a war or something to come back0.79
00:32:59.160like there was something about well he did get the tattoos the tattoos helped and don't forget0.98
00:33:04.420the mullet yeah of course but but like it's just he's he's got it now but it happened so quick it
00:33:11.440did it happens it happened really quick for him i think the feud with his dad oh well that was it
00:33:17.380that set it off and i remember that night and i texted ray and dom that night i i want to say he
00:33:22.360either uh clotheslined his father or kicked his dad in the nuts but ray is such a lovable guy
00:33:29.000and for him to you know and we all grew up 20 years ago fans saw dominic on television he was
00:33:35.600involved in storylines so everyone saw this cute little kid man and now here he is and he's
00:33:40.940disrespecting his father whom we adore yeah boo still still still to this day after i took
00:33:47.160the u.s title off of ray mysterio which i did in in saudi arabia u.s champ right there uh uh i said0.99
00:33:54.400to dom backstage i was like your dad's a legend man he goes yeah fuck that guy0.64
00:33:59.380isn't but isn't him finding his like zone similarly to you just a testament of like0.98
00:34:09.400having to try shit in life like you tried this is for the audience watches even the people that0.53
00:34:14.780aren't for some reason wwe fans you you had this confidence issue maybe dom had this confidence1.00
00:34:20.680issue you know you tried basketball you tried you know working the night shift at the gas station
00:34:25.120and then you found your thing because you tried it because you went against everything that your0.99
00:34:31.220lack of confidence told you inside your no disrespect massive fucking head right which was0.96
00:34:36.940which was i'm too scared or i'm not good enough or i don't have the ability to do this0.98
00:34:41.020and you did it anyways right and that first step led you to getting a little bit of experience a
00:34:47.140little bit of credibility which then led you to getting that confidence you know which is which
00:34:51.560is such a beautiful ladder and storyline for for life and and can you only imagine if you had
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00:38:41.960He gets right up next to the microphone.
00:38:43.700I hear you can almost hear the eyelashes hit each other.
00:38:46.780You've never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween.
00:38:52.180Listen to Artists on Artists on Artists on Artists on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
00:38:59.600Taking that first step and how important that is to your journey.
00:39:02.480Yeah, no, I, it's, it's all about taking that first leap, doing something that, that you're scared to do. And I try to, you know, teach my kids, especially my older sons that like, you gotta do what's uncomfortable sometimes, you know, like you have to make yourself uncomfortable. And when your body's in that state, when your mind's in that state, that's when you grow, that's when you learn, that's when you become resilient, you know, you know, who likes going to the gym?
00:39:29.680you know if you enjoy going to the gym you're probably not doing it right you're probably going
00:39:36.460to the gym you're probably going to the gym when everyone gets off work and the girls are in there
00:39:43.220and you're like yeah hey you know but if you're in the dungeon and you're by yourself and you're
00:39:47.520sweating with your homie and you guys are pushing through it and you're working and you're not in
00:39:51.860there three hours but you're in there an hour and a half but you're going balls to the wall i'm sure
00:39:57.320like with the boxing training like you know the difference between training and training dude i
00:40:01.700don't like training i've always been vocal about that it really sucks it's hard but the payoff
00:40:06.820that separates the men from the boys that that's that's where you find out who's who and i found
00:40:13.880extreme pleasure in that that's the that's the motivating factor of course you know yeah i'm in
00:40:19.320there i don't i don't want to be in there but that jumping that hurdle will pay off
00:40:24.860in in substantial ways in the future and I know that and it keeps me going yeah hell yeah um
00:40:31.240how did you develop the RKO so did you ever meet John Laurinaitis so he was head of talent relations
00:40:41.140um when for the majority of my career he used to do a move called the ace crusher very very similar
00:40:49.400to the rko diamond dallas page who i'm sure you're familiar with he did uh the diamond cutter um both
00:40:56.580those moves inspired me and in one way or another for me to come up with with the rko and and
00:41:04.160essentially what it was is i blew my shoulders out early in my career i've had three shoulder
00:41:09.040operations um so i if you you can go back and very rarely will you ever see me pick a guy up
00:41:18.220like if you look in the last 10 years other than like a ray mysterio or a dom i don't pick guys up
00:41:26.780i don't do power moves i don't it's like a mobility thing uh yeah it's just me because
00:41:31.420i don't need to do it okay so i could pick up a guy and slam him my shoulders are healthy and fine
00:41:36.800but when i blew him out early on in my head i got it to where okay i got to protect my shoulders
00:41:42.140so i go way overboard in protecting my shoulders because you know i don't want to be on the shelf0.71
00:41:48.340with another shoulder injury but i know that i don't need to do it um and uh i think shit i
00:41:55.760forget where i was going there but diamond dallas page shoulders you don't pick how you develop0.66
00:42:00.620so i needed a move that i could do to everybody that didn't that i could do you know ray mysterio
00:56:59.580When it comes to the kids and you just have to be vigilant
00:57:02.820and know what they're watching, you know, like, gosh, you know.
00:57:07.980I remember when I was a kid, when I was, you know, probably 12, 13,
00:57:12.120you know, I used to go get my hair cut at my grandpa's barber,
00:57:15.100you know and he'd take me every couple weeks and i'd get my hair cut and there was a couple playboys
00:57:19.260for sure rip a page out fold it up tuck it you know and i think over the course of of uh the
00:57:28.020few years i had a half a dozen playboy centerfolds and you got my position you got to see a couple
00:57:33.420boobs and i got to see some boobs but like look at what the access is not like even in that same
00:57:39.060note it's like i'll go to the video store and sneak into the back section they'd have this0.95
00:57:42.020this section called faces of death right oh i remember faces yeah yeah you know section where
00:57:48.260you could potentially see someone get a limb severed but yeah you'd have to sneak it hide it
00:57:52.920like this and that right now you just open the most popular social media engine on the planet
00:57:57.160and you're looking at there's women in the room but you're looking at much deeper than playboy
00:58:02.400type things deeper good yeah yeah deeper than playboy and you're looking at you know all kinds
00:58:06.460of stuff so yeah i think oversight is really the important thing but you now you're a good parent
00:58:11.420oh yeah you're now a role model well i'll you're a role model you're you know a an icon in the
00:58:19.480sport but were you always no no i want to i want to ask you some vulnerable questions do you do0.97
00:58:25.480you think at some point in your career you were a dick yes yeah 100 percent i uh 100 but but that0.98
00:58:36.560was like excuse me that was like my armor i was i was a asshole i think because i wanted people to0.99
00:58:46.440to respect me maybe i like i'm i don't know i don't know i just know that i grew out of that
00:58:52.980phase and i thank god that i did but i see like footage you know that um i didn't know the camera
00:58:59.880was rolling maybe at that autograph signing and there's an interaction with a fan and it's picked
00:59:04.740up and then now they're doing this doc on a and e that they just kind of are finishing up and i've
00:59:10.240seen some of this footage from 10 15 years ago and i'm like oh my god like that's horrible you
00:59:17.440know um but like that's that's just kind of who i was i i i it wasn't coming from a place of
00:59:24.380confidence i think it was coming from a place of like it was my armor man like that i was an0.94
00:59:29.660asshole and then maybe i would get respect that way maybe it was a little bit of fear and i took0.96
00:59:34.340at his respect and either way i was fine with it you know but luckily i was given a second third0.86
00:59:40.800fourth chance you know um from vince mcmahon coming up when i would get in trouble or i would
00:59:46.000have to you know get sent away for a couple months or i would have to get fined a second or third
00:59:50.540time and i just blessed like i am so blessed i just had the right guys in there to kind of you0.95
00:59:58.280know yank my ass straight and make sure that i was walking a straight line with the times that i did
01:00:02.740veer off triple h was one of those oh yeah yeah um yeah yeah 100 he was he was that rock it seemed0.98
01:00:11.380like for sean michaels as well yes so it's it's crazy it's he just seems like a just a stellar
01:00:17.860human as a friend and now a boss he is he's very smart but but um you know with the business
01:00:24.680business smart like you have any questions with wrestling you go to him yeah and then you're
01:00:29.440gonna get a good answer um or at least it's gonna you know spark you know something of your own to
01:00:34.160come out of the woodwork but but as far as like a human being like i went to his wedding i've kind
01:00:40.480of seen him evolve and he has three girls and uh his his oldest girl is just a few years older than
01:00:46.340mine um so we have that in common and and but i think recently for him because he had the health
01:00:54.240scare and everything i think he realizes how important time family time is and that's one
01:01:00.400thing that has changed i think uh you know back in the day you know you were missing birthdays
01:01:05.280you were missing anniversaries you were missing holidays you know and there was no
01:01:09.420either way about it like you were gonna miss you wouldn't even ask for off now
01:01:14.420there's leniency there now he'll make sure that you can get home for the birth of your baby or
01:01:20.520he'll make sure that you can get home for that birthday because he understands now how important
01:01:24.220that is and i think company-wide that that's been a change for the better yeah absolutely no he's he's
01:01:29.680he's a great leader man he does he doesn't he is the boss but he doesn't feel like a boss doesn't
01:01:34.720feel like a boss he's like a collaborator well so so he was he was uh one of the boys you know
01:01:39.800when when i was introduced to him you know when i was 20 he was one of the boys and to me he'll
01:01:45.120always be more so one of the boys than purely office and i think that's because i know that
01:01:52.420i can trust him and that he's going to steer me in the right way so and that's usually you know
01:01:56.560you got your clique of guys that you know have your back you know he's one of those guys for me
01:02:01.180um i know you have a time limit the last thing i want to ask before we get you out of here
01:02:04.900for uh smackdown tonight is uh i know you're big with the uh the troops i know you uh are a massive
01:02:10.380troop supporter you spent a lot of time um there is that is that because of the time you spent in
01:02:15.740the military is it just respect you have for for people defending our country it has nothing to do
01:02:20.040with the time that i spent in the military um but being involved with uh the tribute to the troop
01:02:25.560shows and the things that we've done in meeting our troops especially when we flew over to the
01:02:29.380middle east like i was 25 26 27 and we were flying over there like like we were in the middle of it
01:02:36.800It was pretty intense, but Vince was right there with us.
01:02:39.780And, you know, we like slept in one of Saddam's son's palaces, you know, that they had taken over, conquered, emptied out and turned into a forward operating base.
01:02:50.320And we're like sleeping in this giant room with like gold trim on the ceilings and 40 foot, you know, entryways like like just going over there and seeing that and seeing like, you know, how hard those people had it.
01:03:03.620and how, you know, our guys were over there helping out
01:03:06.340and putting their life on the line to do so.
01:03:08.840Like, anybody out there that's putting their life on the line for other people,
01:03:13.480like, how could you not have just the utmost respect for them?
01:07:14.280It's really funny and a good time. Wait, really?
01:07:16.120Yeah, yeah. I think statistics just came back and we're one of the funniest two guys with mics and that's pretty hard to beat right now, but it's true actually.
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