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00:02:23.860 Yes, corn.

00:02:25.020 What I remember is seeing somebody come around the corner,

00:02:28.340 tackles me.

00:02:29.040 Everybody was trying to get him off,

00:02:30.280 but his legs were kind of like this.

00:02:32.080 So I just reached up and just...

00:02:34.160 No!

00:02:34.480 No!

00:02:43.440 Back in the day, escorts, I felt, were a little more private.

00:02:46.820 Like, you had your clientele,

00:02:48.360 and the old rich guy would pay for the young girl

00:02:51.520 to follow him around,

00:02:52.640 London, maybe for a little extra pay, there was a little extra. 0.80

00:02:57.380 Fooling, a little fooling.

00:02:58.600 Well, now it's like a whole thing.

00:03:00.280 It's been exposed by the likes of Super Snake and other Instagram documentarians.

00:03:05.960 For sure.

00:03:06.340 Well, whose yacht is that, lady? 0.93

00:03:08.160 Whose yacht are you on?

00:03:09.020 And why are you in Sicily this week and Monaco next week and then London this week and then

00:03:12.800 LA?

00:03:13.180 Who are you chasing around?

00:03:15.140 You're not paying for any of this stuff.

00:03:16.100 Well, and London's like the jump off point because it's Euro summer.

00:03:19.140 100%. 0.77

00:03:19.420 And so it's like you got Mykonos.

00:03:20.720 you've got beef as they say you've got you've got central pay for the real wealthy ones you know

00:03:25.960 and they're all here jumping off who else is jumping off is our guest today yeah that's who

00:03:29.500 is gonna walk behind the first ever ladies and gentlemen it's the wwe world heavyweight champ 0.99

00:03:40.280 seth rollins let's go yo what he did right there was basically like okay shut the fuck up about 0.98

00:03:46.620 Whatever you're talking about 0.99

00:03:47.500 I'm here

00:03:47.840 I'm here

00:03:48.300 What a set up

00:03:51.160 You guys got here

00:03:52.060 It's not bad

00:03:52.500 Is this for decoration

00:03:53.260 Or can I actually drink it

00:03:54.300 You can drink it

00:03:54.960 Oh I need it

00:03:55.740 I can use it

00:03:56.340 Stay hydrated brother

00:03:57.580 You can wear the headphones

00:03:58.780 If you so please

00:04:00.120 Oh yeah why not

00:04:01.460 You don't have to

00:04:02.080 We like it

00:04:02.540 It puts you in the zone

00:04:03.120 Why not

00:04:03.640 Yeah get me in

00:04:04.320 Just get me all the way in

00:04:05.440 You'll notice it gives you

00:04:06.520 That radio sound

00:04:07.860 Yeah

00:04:08.520 Yeah

00:04:09.540 Alright now I feel like

00:04:10.860 We're alone in the room

00:04:11.760 It's kind of romantic

00:04:12.520 In it's own way right

00:04:13.560 Just the three of us

00:04:14.980 Hanging out

00:04:15.360 Are you a romantic type of guy

00:04:16.520 Maybe in some ways

00:04:19.040 I don't know about like

00:04:20.020 Yeah you know what yes I am

00:04:21.980 Will you go to Bucati Beppo with Becky Lynch

00:04:24.060 What the hell did you just say

00:04:25.760 Bucati Beppo is that what you just said

00:04:28.140 What is that

00:04:29.280 That's the peak of romance

00:04:31.120 I don't know I've never heard of that in my life

00:04:32.900 Well that's usually from Davenport Iowa

00:04:34.800 Hey you know all about Davenport

00:04:37.660 I learned about Davenport

00:04:40.000 Mike wasn't even sure people from Iowa existed

00:04:42.560 You're the first evidence I have

00:04:44.500 That Iowa is actually a place

00:04:46.500 Because I know that I've heard of it

00:04:48.660 And I know that they have

00:04:49.740 Corn there

00:04:52.280 Yes, corn

00:04:54.160 I know they have corn there

00:04:57.800 But I didn't know it was actually real

00:04:59.160 It's a real place with real people

00:05:02.160 There's real buildings

00:05:03.840 The whole nine

00:05:04.600 Yeah, he's seen it

00:05:06.600 But for example, North Dakota

00:05:09.420 You've heard of that, right?

00:05:10.960 But have you ever actually met a person

00:05:12.660 Like, yeah, I'm from North Dakota

00:05:14.520 I think I did once, but I felt like he was AI.

00:05:17.260 Yeah.

00:05:18.060 You guys haven't traveled that much, have you?

00:05:20.640 I mean, look, I've been fortunate enough in this gig to have wrestled in all 50 states,

00:05:25.420 many, many countries, six continents, the whole nine.

00:05:27.800 So I've been to North Dakota.

00:05:29.760 Fargo?

00:05:30.420 Can I ask?

00:05:31.020 Cold.

00:05:31.660 Yes, you can ask whatever, but it's cold.

00:05:33.400 We always go.

00:05:34.200 I'm telling you, the logistics people, whoever put these schedules together,

00:05:37.960 they're just throwing stuff, or they're trying to rib us, right?

00:05:41.060 because we always go to Fargo

00:05:43.200 like in the middle of February

00:05:45.380 when there's six feet of snow

00:05:47.600 and it's negative 40 degrees

00:05:49.260 and the bus wants to freeze.

00:05:51.200 It's brutal, dude.

00:05:52.680 It's brutal up there.

00:05:54.020 I feel like the WWE logistics team

00:05:55.860 just has a dart and a map

00:05:57.240 and they're like,

00:05:57.960 where are we going this week?

00:05:59.140 That's it.

00:05:59.840 That's it.

00:06:00.740 Is Antarctica the continent

00:06:02.040 you haven't wrestled on?

00:06:02.920 That's the one.

00:06:03.880 Any goals of doing that?

00:06:06.040 Let's do it, man.

00:06:07.600 Let's book a show in the Arctic Circle.

00:06:09.700 Let's ride.

00:06:11.060 yeah that's the one that's the one all the other ones i've covered so speaking of antarctica let's

00:06:15.940 break the ice set that's nice i'm not mad at you for beating me at wrestlemania i'm not mad i i'm

00:06:23.940 gonna take that l on the chin you're a legend it was an honor to lose to you seth rollins and you

00:06:29.360 put on a hell of a performance and curb stomped me well stop me and uh let's put that behind us

00:06:37.180 for a second and let's be professionals about this podcast because i'll also be honest with

00:06:42.620 you you do have something that i like currently and that's the the world heavyweight championship

00:06:46.820 ah yeah yeah we got a new title in the house since you and i tangoed after wrestlemania world

00:06:52.660 heavyweight championship we're live i you know what i will uh i'll accept that i'll accept that

00:06:57.820 i uh i have to be honest with you i was a bit skeptical uh about your venture into wwe but

00:07:04.040 But the hard work that you put forth leading into WrestleMania

00:07:08.060 and the effort that you and KSI really put forth during the contest itself,

00:07:14.700 there's a level of respect that comes with that.

00:07:17.520 There's a level of respect when you get in there.

00:07:19.900 You tango with anybody at WrestleMania on a stage like that.

00:07:22.960 There's a level of respect that comes with that.

00:07:25.520 So I'm with you.

00:07:26.460 We'll put it behind us.

00:07:27.420 We'll be professional here.

00:07:29.300 And just don't come anywhere near the World Heavyweight title.

00:07:31.760 Yeah.

00:07:32.440 No promises.

00:07:33.680 and I say that just because

00:07:35.460 I just extended my contract

00:07:37.520 for a bit of time

00:07:39.120 and I'm optimistic

00:07:41.100 and idealistic

00:07:42.960 and I got big goals and we're in the same

00:07:45.760 industry, I don't know

00:07:46.740 respect bro, respect, I get that

00:07:49.120 thanks for coming on, thanks for coming on the podcast

00:07:51.100 thank you guys for having me, I appreciate it

00:07:52.960 Mr. Rollins, I'll tell you this, you don't have much to worry about

00:07:55.260 he's never won anything

00:07:56.780 it's not really my thing

00:07:57.740 you don't have to worry bro

00:08:00.700 the bottom line is

00:08:03.360 you uh you always take more l's than w's always that's how it is especially when your name's

00:08:08.180 logan when you're when you're two l's in your name when you're a grinder man that's just how

00:08:12.540 it goes and he's on grinder oh god bless you well i learned about grinder actually in wwe i never

00:08:19.200 knew what it was uh we had there was one person and i won't name names i won't incriminate him

00:08:24.020 in any way but uh he was on grind i mean he was a habitual i think still is a habitual grinder

00:08:30.020 user does that just make you a grinder is that what the term i mean sure he is a hundred percent

00:08:35.340 a grinder like he yeah he is ritualistic about it yeah he he could be marching today the streets

00:08:41.040 of london it's lgbtq pride pride march day i know it's the month you know it's june and all like

00:08:46.780 that i know there was an action there's a full march today yeah that's pretty rad all across

00:08:50.840 europe they're going for it so look seth who's your stylist you got some wacky clothes you came

00:08:58.420 here with big sunglasses every time i saw you with the ring you look like you're about to fly

00:09:01.440 away yeah yeah this is actually a tame look for you guys yeah i dress down a little bit uh so my

00:09:08.020 guy's name is king troy that's his handle on instagram uh i i his name's troy haynes he's

00:09:14.020 an awesome cat based out of los angeles he was actually doing a ton of work for the ladies of

00:09:19.300 wwe uh still does a little bit but that's how i got him becky becky was like i got it i got a guy

00:09:24.860 and he's always wanted a style of duty styles chicks all the time but he wanted to style a guy

00:09:29.620 and uh i mean you didn't really i don't know you didn't really know who i was pre-visionary

00:09:37.720 right so i mean you've seen me in my element a little bit i'm very dressed down i'm very

00:09:43.660 no frills relaxed chill so this is out of my i'm actually out of my element right now in this suit

00:09:49.840 but when i was coming back from i want to say paternity leave we had had our baby and i was

00:09:56.000 coming back and i wanted to do something different she was like why don't you try this and so i i

00:10:02.620 hit him up and the suit started coming and then it turned into whatever it is now it's this

00:10:08.180 monstrosity of i mean you were there at wrestlemania you saw the the entrance it was nuts

00:10:12.900 um so yeah he he puts a lot of it together works with my gear guy his name's mikazi uh surat he

00:10:19.320 works in wwe and they they put it all together and come up with some wild looks is he are they

00:10:26.260 styling you for like if you're out on the town in iowa having a baked potato like are you getting

00:10:31.420 an outfit for that as well absolutely not no that's what he because he has he's styled for

00:10:37.760 like he'll wake up like saturday morning it'll be like pool look no come on yeah wow i got a look

00:10:44.180 book you got a whole thing and i'll tell you why i'm uh fashionably inept yes like like really bad

00:10:50.400 yes so if i don't have that i'll look like a pilgrim that's fair i i guess i'm okay with

00:10:56.600 looking like a pilgrim i'm i'm like when i'm in my actually could look like a pilgrim so when i'm

00:11:01.640 in my own i don't care yeah i'm gonna put me in a hat and the whole nine yeah but yeah yeah yeah

00:11:07.760 but no i when i'm by myself when i'm just at my wrestling school or whatever like i will wear

00:11:12.160 it's only shorts and a t-shirt that's it and sneakers i don't wear anything and like i'm of

00:11:17.020 the opinion when i go out this is this is this is a mean thing to say not mean but it's just when i'm

00:11:23.860 in iowa like in my own space everybody knows kind of who i am and like i don't need to like dress up

00:11:30.520 to go to this whatever the one fancy restaurant is in davenport like i'm just gonna show up 0.91

00:11:35.320 in my in my shit and it's fine everything's gonna be fine no one's gonna turn me away you know like 0.97

00:11:41.920 But, yeah, I'm fully the same. 1.00

00:11:43.860 I'm very fashionably inept as well. 0.72

00:11:46.300 It's a good way to put it. 0.70

00:11:46.920 It makes three of us.

00:11:47.820 I could use King Troy myself.

00:11:49.360 You could.

00:11:50.120 Is he taking new clients?

00:11:51.680 Always, man.

00:11:52.540 If you need a look, he's there for you.

00:11:54.480 Actually.

00:11:54.960 Dude, I'm not kidding you.

00:11:56.940 He's the best.

00:11:57.740 He's fantastic.

00:11:58.240 His name is great to me.

00:11:59.400 King Troy, baby.

00:11:59.620 I feel like he rolls up a Trojan horse, a wooden horse.

00:12:03.080 He rocks, man.

00:12:04.200 He's so good. 0.64

00:12:04.880 And, like I said, he's done the girls for a while,

00:12:07.040 still does some of them as well, gets Becky some stuff,

00:12:10.180 Charlotte, some of the other ones.

00:12:11.180 but i think i'm the only i think i'm the only dude on the book so well i like the vibe i mean

00:12:16.500 it's working yeah for sure it's it's working i i uh i'm obviously new to the wwe i'm new to the

00:12:23.700 world of seth rollins and the fans love you they are eating it up right now the seth rollins

00:12:29.860 character the act the look the appeal do you feel that you're in the pinnacle of your career at the

00:12:35.460 moment i feel like i'm kind of just starting my prime it's an interesting prime nice yeah i i'm

00:12:41.160 just start starting to get into it i've been wrestling since i was roughly 16 17 years old

00:12:46.620 so 20 years now so in our industry there are some exceptions you know dwayne the rock johnson uh you

00:12:53.460 know he's kind of exception obviously he was sort of a part of the business his entire life because

00:12:57.400 his family was in it but like he had his real run was only like four years like it was tiny but for

00:13:03.380 the most part historically the you need years and years of experience thousands of matches

00:13:10.880 you've got to build equity with your audience and so I'm like at the point now where I'm 37 I think

00:13:17.980 I'm 37 yeah 37 and so like I've got probably this maybe six to ten year window depending on

00:13:24.960 my health where like I'm gonna be in the sweet spot where like my body can still go you know

00:13:31.280 like um but but my brain is also finally caught up to where my where i am physically so like

00:13:38.340 mentally and physically i haven't i haven't deteriorated i'm like in that perfect zone

00:13:42.960 where i'm like i'm not quite what i was when i was your age athletically but i'm still pushing it

00:13:47.680 and like mentally i'm just i can read the room when we go out there it's like it's like cake

00:13:53.700 for me so uh i'm in that zone for like i'd say six to ten years depending on you know how my

00:13:58.520 body holds up and then and then who knows but you know then i'll turn in the undertaker and come

00:14:03.460 once a year for us but yeah like i'm i'm feeling really good right now like it's just it's i'm in

00:14:08.800 i'm in a sweet spot well it is completely reliant on your body and uh this is not a this but you

00:14:15.700 know 10 years ago you were yoked you were ripped and you're still in great shape now but you know 0.98

00:14:22.460 back then you look like a fucking hunk you know and still a hunk yeah obviously fine wine over 0.97

00:14:30.380 here obviously you're still a hunk you're aging like a fine wine but are you doing anything to 0.99

00:14:34.880 preserve your body like are you on any peptides you any any ice baths or like how are you staying

00:14:40.460 alive no honestly i just do my same thing uh you know i try to just change my training up you know

00:14:47.180 based on how i feel and like there's constant injuries you know like my knee's been bugging

00:14:51.800 me since before wrestlemania we were having a lot of i was having issues with that um you know my

00:14:56.640 neck acting up my low back has been at me for like since 2019 probably should get some surgery

00:15:02.580 on that but trying to just you know do whatever i can to make sure i don't need it because i have a

00:15:07.700 couple of stress fractures back there um no stem no stems so i tried some stem cells uh i've done

00:15:13.740 a couple stem cell treatments and i didn't find that they i found that they were temporarily

00:15:17.960 helpful okay i didn't find that and i wasn't taking time off so i wasn't just idling while

00:15:23.340 i was on the stem cells i was still working pretty much full-time schedule with wwe so

00:15:27.300 i found that temporarily helpful but long term it kind of had faded off a little bit so i'd say

00:15:33.340 i got like about maybe four or five months of like oh okay that feels good i feel like everybody

00:15:39.120 has like a different experience with him because uh ray mysterio like swear swears by yeah like

00:15:44.560 he's like that's the reason why i'm still going yeah and he's i mean i have no reason to believe

00:15:49.620 that he is saying anything but the truth for sure he is just unreal he's one of one i mean that guy

00:15:55.920 i think he turns 50 soon and like what what are we talking about you watch him in the ring it's

00:16:01.160 like unbelievable he has an age today like i was talking about entering my prime and he's like he's

00:16:06.560 just like i said one of one he's like a freak dude yeah freak and a sweetheart yeah up there

00:16:13.200 and i'll say this might be a hot take but he's one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all

00:16:18.760 time oh for sure and i think you know people kind of like oh well he wears a mat like there's there's

00:16:22.740 like all these kind of like oh but this but that you know he's not like a great pro he's not like

00:16:27.300 a you know a rock and austin a hogan like he's not on that but like he is if you look at the

00:16:33.000 totality of his career and the influence that he's had for over generations i i say one of

00:16:38.060 one of the greatest you could arguably include him on a mount rushmore if you wanted to if you

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00:17:26.760 you click the link in the description to download the app back to the show do you think um wrestling

00:17:33.040 and you mentioned it just then about the pains you're feeling is about ignoring ignoring the pain

00:17:40.000 and ignoring the ladders to the chest and because when i first started i i was shocked at how things

00:17:46.640 hurt yeah like you know when you watch it on tv and people who don't watch wrestling assume that

00:17:51.640 you know the mat is padded in and bouncy like a trampoline and they assume the ladders are fake

00:17:56.660 and the chairs are fake and the tables are fake and sure when i found out that none of it was

00:18:01.640 it took a a second to be like oh i'm just gonna have to suck this up like is that what it is

00:18:07.360 just ignore and suck it up yeah there's just a level of suffering that you have to be willing

00:18:12.140 to endure there's no joke and and i think people you know obviously there's a level of uh you know 0.70

00:18:17.460 workmanship to it like you know i'm not really trying to end you with the ladder to your body

00:18:23.820 but also there's there's no fighting it if i'm throwing a ladder at you they are just hard steel

00:18:30.180 ladders just metal ladders and they will just they're just gonna attack your body you're just

00:18:34.180 gonna try to survive it as best you can and so yes it's essentially just he's shaking his head

00:18:39.720 like what are we doing you know because you don't understand mike you know my limited wwe experience

00:18:45.680 very limited it all of that hurt it hurt all of it now i will i will say this for for me at least

00:18:53.120 in the 20 seconds that i was in there it's adrenaline at least in the very beginning

00:18:57.220 when you first start you're just i mean you're in shock sure i'm being manhandled by a large man

00:19:01.580 in front of 35 000 people right now like but you're you're you're once that wears off you're

00:19:07.080 like oh shit dude what did i what i do yeah yeah i mean there's stuff in the moment that really

00:19:12.340 it's not great you know uh and obviously it takes you out of it but like yes the adrenaline will 0.95

00:19:18.340 get you through the match the process especially the early parts and then when you're kind of like

00:19:22.800 later in the matches you just like you're just riding that like whatever that euphoria is of the

00:19:28.380 of the of the match itself and that like late game sort of push whatever it is you get that

00:19:33.760 kind of feeling but then i mean if you go to the back and sit down for 20 minutes when you try to

00:19:39.860 move it's like oh god but isn't it do you ever do you guys ever get in that like state of mind i

00:19:45.540 remember just from like traumatic injuries and stuff like that in the past like being in icu

00:19:49.860 where it you almost dig into this like internal warrior that's inside you and it makes you feel

00:19:56.260 awesome to know that you're still fucking cooking through the pain you know what i'm saying like you

00:20:00.200 tap into it yeah there's something there is something very warrior-esque about it and it's 0.98

00:20:04.880 like you know the physicality as we're kind of like saying ah this is hurts a lot there's something

00:20:10.080 about the physicality and i and i assume other anybody in contact sports will feel similarly like

00:20:15.220 sometimes it brings out like this animal in you you know like getting punched or getting rocked

00:20:22.320 by something is like when we have a big match i i always kind of like the first one to just be

00:20:28.900 snug just in there just give me just crack me with something good you know obviously don't

00:20:34.420 break my jaw but just like hit pop me with a forearm give me a good chop something where i 0.96

00:20:39.140 can just get that spike right through the right to the top of your head where you're just like

00:20:43.020 let's go you know like i like that vibe so like you know we do a lot of matches live events stay

00:20:50.360 away from me i don't want any of that don't touch me but like when it's when it's a televised

00:20:54.700 pay-per-view like big big night whatever it is i'm ready to go let's let's let's turn it up we'll

00:20:59.800 deal with the consequences later for sure well i was gonna say because yes that warrior does come

00:21:05.260 out and that pain can activate you in a really cool way but the issue is he got to perform on

00:21:09.600 monday as well or friday you know what i'm saying like the schedule is grueling schedule is nuts

00:21:15.520 yeah you have to work out i would imagine eat healthy learn the the matches and then perform

00:21:22.800 week after week after week after week yeah and that's the thing that i kind of skipped

00:21:27.620 right yeah you did you skipped all that the people at ww universe don't like me you get to just show

00:21:32.920 up every once in a while like hey guys i'm here yeah i did it everybody's got their own path

00:21:38.080 though you know my path is for me your path is for you that's just how it is so like there's you

00:21:43.120 know i gave you a lot of flack leading up to the match of mania for that very thing but uh truth

00:21:47.800 be told over the years you're not the first you're not the first guy who's come from a different world

00:21:52.340 into our world and you know brought more eyes to our product and vice versa so like it is what it

00:21:57.460 is um but yeah man the schedule is uh it's one of a kind there's really nothing like it i don't

00:22:02.960 understand how it's possible it's it's a well-organized machine with what 500 employees

00:22:08.220 yeah it's a very small billion dollar company like it's a very it's very small it's not like

00:22:13.580 it's not crazy as far as like infrastructure is concerned but it's it's wild i mean i did last

00:22:19.000 year uh i wrestled 120 some matches so then but that's i'll tell you what that's the low end of

00:22:26.740 my career years that i've not been injured and like non-injury years non-pandemic years that's

00:22:32.220 like the low end because we're only doing three shows a week usually so like friday saturday

00:22:38.040 sunday or sorry sorry saturday sunday monday for me some people friday saturday sunday when i first

00:22:43.100 started on the road with wwe in 2012 i was doing a five-day week every week i'm not even kidding it

00:22:50.700 was i would wrestle friday saturday sunday we would do live tv monday then we would tape smack

00:22:55.800 down on tuesday this is before the rosters were split so that was fun i had some years where i

00:23:01.400 was wrestling 230 matches a year that's just matches not even we're not talking about media

00:23:06.860 appearances we're not talking about extra travel days none of that just that's just matches so i

00:23:11.320 was on the road like non-stop i could have just lit there were some weeks where it was pointless

00:23:16.160 to go home i was like why am i going home for six hours to unpack my bag and repack it and then just

00:23:21.660 go out again it was it was nuts to have a schedule that rigorous it's obvious that you have to love

00:23:27.540 what you do and you obviously love wrestling i get these clips on my tiktok of you performing in

00:23:34.380 front of 20 people very few sometimes like a young teenage seth rollins yep but did you realize that

00:23:41.900 it was going to be all of that was it ever too much is it what you signed up for or did you kind

00:23:46.840 of just take the bullet to the chin and suck it up and go uh you know this was just my first love

00:23:52.980 you know so it was kind of everything that I signed up for I guess you know I'd always heard

00:23:57.600 like mythological stories about guys schedules you know like Ric Flair's you know crazy schedules

00:24:03.400 NWA world champion in the 80s or like kind of Bret Hart in the 90s and what he was doing for

00:24:08.980 WWE in the early 90s and stuff like that as champion so like I always heard like these kind

00:24:13.460 of like mythological little stories about these guys schedules so I was sort of prepped for it

00:24:18.480 that way um and like i said it's just it's it's my first love man so like i mean i was willing

00:24:25.280 in many ways to sacrifice relationships friendships time at home time with family and all of that

00:24:33.000 stuff for what i mean it's the way you would any any sort of you know if you have something that

00:24:39.420 you love more than anything you're just going to put that first and it's very selfish in a way

00:24:44.120 because that's the only way I could find to succeed in the industry.

00:24:47.700 But I don't have regrets for the time I spent, like, kind of suffering or going through it.

00:24:53.800 Like, there was never, like I was saying, 230 matches, which sounds insane to me now.

00:24:57.960 But, like, when I was 26 and you put me on the road with WWE for the first time,

00:25:01.920 I'm living my childhood dream.

00:25:04.120 Like, the thing that I wanted to do when I was four years old, like, I'm getting the chance to do it.

00:25:09.440 there was no limit to how much i would have i would have stretched myself to to succeed the

00:25:15.520 day the days off the 110 days off of you were probably the days you hated you're like dude i

00:25:20.260 can't wait to get back to work i was addicted to the to the grind i really was i loved it i love

00:25:25.920 dude there were times when i would show up like we had like i mentioned those five days and like

00:25:30.140 i'd be like well i gotta work out well when am i gonna work out well we just drove from

00:25:33.480 you know i don't know st louis to kansas city after a live event on friday or sunday and i

00:25:39.140 got tv the next day call times you know two or one or whatever it is but it's four in the morning

00:25:44.640 now i'm like do i go to sleep or do i go to the gym well i'll just sleep some other time so i

00:25:50.280 would just go to the gym at four or five in the morning i'd pop in and get a workout in and then

00:25:54.200 go in the hotel sleep for a few hours then go to tv but like i just i i loved it i loved it you

00:25:59.260 couldn't get me off the road like i when i would go home i would feel out of place i would feel

00:26:04.300 out of place i had my girlfriend at the time i just remember i feel feeling bad for her because

00:26:08.580 i was like i felt so so like foreign when i was home it just wasn't comfortable i was by the next

00:26:15.380 day like the first day i was like oh i'm home by the next day i was like all right gotta go gotta

00:26:19.480 go what's the next thing what's the next thing where are we going where are we going this weekend

00:26:22.300 so it was uh it was an interesting time for me my my mid-20s did you have a an extreme heel run

00:26:29.000 yes you did right like you you were big time booed for oh yeah a while i i mean they the audience

00:26:35.100 goes up and down with me you know you experience the side that they really enjoy but i think

00:26:38.960 being paired with you is kind of help bring that out a little bit but yeah i i uh when i when i

00:26:45.820 first so we first started in 2012 with the shield if uh anybody knows it was me roman reigns john

00:26:52.060 moxley who's over in aw now and the three of us were like this we were just in tack vests and

00:26:57.540 and like riot gear and and like we just burst onto the scene like a a badass boy band you know

00:27:04.240 like we we took over pretty quick and uh and then when i uh infamously betrayed the shield in 2014

00:27:10.880 i think it was uh yeah that that started the the run of hatred and it was pretty strong there for

00:27:18.320 a few years yeah yeah it was pretty pretty rotten i asked because i'm obviously a heel

00:27:24.820 and i like it yeah but i didn't at first oh really when i first got there and people started

00:27:30.800 booing me i really took it personal oh why what you were just like why don't they like me i just

00:27:37.140 didn't understand i didn't understand the dynamic no he i was pissed bruce pritchard came back

00:27:42.860 he's like that was amazing they hate you why is that amazing like i'm affected by this

00:27:50.340 now i eat it up that's so fun and i've started to play with just one-on-one interactions with

00:27:56.740 people in the front row who are booing me yeah i gotta say the wwe fans have balls these people 0.99

00:28:04.120 like i will get in their face and they're flipping me off fuck you i'm right here like i'm yo i'm 0.99

00:28:11.620 sorry sir i could end your life where you stand i obviously won't because it's legal but the fact 1.00

00:28:19.620 that they have no regret they have no signs of backing down right in front of my face do you

00:28:26.140 they got respect from me it's because they think it's because they think you're a character and

00:28:32.020 you want you know which which you are like we saw with ken remember with ken that time one of one

00:28:36.200 of our friends we were in the front row and and and they got they got lippy with each other one

00:28:40.060 of our guys in the front row of one of the events and uh ken poured his beer on the on the guy which

00:28:46.040 actually was a little bit over obviously overboard because no no no because what the reason why was

00:28:51.040 because he he got ken first he like pushed him back so ken poured the beer out okay the front

00:28:56.500 row of these events gets wild yeah like it's a wild place to be but i think i think what kevin

00:29:00.800 said is like they're in character too we're all we're all there to have fun and now now i'm leaning

00:29:07.620 into it now i'm i'm i'm liking it yeah and they love to hate me yeah it's really fun it's it is

00:29:12.960 quite the journey for me yeah my girlfriend's um dad who i just met like two days ago will be coming

00:29:20.400 to money in the bank oh fantastic and so i'm prepping her i'm like yo like they're gonna be 0.99

00:29:25.580 calling me a wanker the fuck you logan chants are coming yep um but sometimes it can go too far 0.99

00:29:33.720 and i know you had an experience oh yeah where a large fan yes he did came sprinting at full speed 1.00

00:29:41.280 and knocked you down while you were backstage just barreled me man what what was that dude so

00:29:47.380 First of all

00:29:49.800 This guy

00:29:50.640 I want to preface it by saying

00:29:53.280 When I found out about everything

00:29:55.440 I felt very bad for this guy

00:29:57.240 This guy

00:29:58.200 There's some 1.00

00:30:01.920 Mental disability 1.00

00:30:03.980 Going on there

00:30:04.940 Connection from reality is not all there

00:30:07.940 He was catfished online

00:30:10.000 By somebody pretending to be me

00:30:12.500 I believe

00:30:12.960 There was some amount of money

00:30:15.940 exchanged for for whatever he was uh you know being asked for and this is not a new phenomenon

00:30:23.600 like that people will do this with it happens a lot with our our girls right so people will 1.00

00:30:28.400 catfish as our as our female superstars and like say oh my they'll just prey on these people who 0.97

00:30:35.200 are a little a little slower and they'll pray on them and they'll be like oh my my brother's sick

00:30:41.080 in the hospital could you send you know money but they don't ask for money they ask for it and like

00:30:45.680 gift cards and so like it's insane there was one with becky actually and we ended up this person

00:30:53.420 finally figured out that they were being catfished or something they showed up in the front row of a

00:30:57.400 show and brought this ziplock bag of gift cards that they had sent because what they'll do is

00:31:04.200 they'll buy them and they'll scratch the codes off and then just send the codes via whatever

00:31:07.880 you know via text and and then so the person gets all the cash from the gift card and it was like

00:31:13.020 i mean we're i i added it all up we're talking thousands of dollars thousands of dollars that

00:31:18.220 they had given to becky for her brother in the hospital or something like that or like it was

00:31:24.080 it was wild so uh basically this guy had been catfished by somebody pretending to be me asking

00:31:29.780 for money for whatever crises they were going through and this guy had given him some money

00:31:33.440 and he was he had reached his breaking point so we're in brooklyn and he jumps i'm i finished a

00:31:40.180 match with finn baller and i'm coming to the back and i'm walking up the ramp like i always do and

00:31:44.940 our floor camera there in the aisle is named stewie and he's just following me like he always

00:31:49.980 does and then like i it happened instantly to me like because i'm i'm not even thinking like oh

00:31:57.320 somebody's gonna come out of the audience i should be ready for this you know that's what we have

00:32:00.880 security for that's what the building security is for and you just don't think that's gonna happen

00:32:04.940 so like your brain is shut off from that part you're just in the performance you're like i'm 0.98

00:32:09.380 just talking to Stewie I'm just you know talking shit just doing my thing I was a bad guy at the 0.96

00:32:14.420 time so I'm just dancing around doing my weird Seth Rollins stuff and I'm not paying any attention 0.90

00:32:19.860 and like in retrospect what I remember is seeing somebody come around the corner running which

00:32:26.020 isn't unusual either because sometimes they're setting up pyro in the entrance for somebody else

00:32:29.860 and he was wearing you know like all like he was just in t-shirts and pants like he was kind of

00:32:34.300 nondescript and so I just saw him running and didn't think anything of it and then like by the

00:32:39.000 next thing i know he's cutting the corner and just zips right by stewie and just straight

00:32:44.060 football tackles me form tackles me right there on the ramp and it was terrifying because i was

00:32:49.980 like i said i'm not prepared so my instinct was to just try to get a hold of his head and he's

00:32:54.920 kind of like clawing at me like he didn't have any weapons thank god he had nothing on him you know

00:32:59.920 but he's like just kind of clawing he's not really throwing any punches or anything like that

00:33:03.880 think he's like grabbing my hair so i have him trying to get him but he's like a little ball

00:33:09.740 like he's a big guy he's a he's a stout man but he's he's short so he's like a little ball so like

00:33:16.100 i couldn't quite get a hold of him and like uh security jumped quick our referee actually jumped

00:33:21.920 quick everybody was trying to get him off but he had like a hold of my hair and so this is this is

00:33:27.580 i haven't divulged this part of the story yet to try to dislodge him the only thing that i could

00:33:33.120 do because i didn't want to punch him i didn't want to hit him the only thing that i could do

00:33:36.400 i saw like he was on top of me over me all i saw was his legs were kind of like this so i just

00:33:43.060 reached up and just no of course i had to get this guy off me i didn't know what was going on so i

00:33:50.340 just reached up and just snatched twist twist or no i just it was a squeeze it was a squeeze just

00:33:56.240 a squeeze like a hard hard squeeze he had my hair and he finally got you know pried off yeah yeah

00:34:03.040 it got him off it got him off do you feel do you but it was it was it was nerve-wracking dude

00:34:07.300 especially in the moment once i realized you know a split second after he got me when i realized

00:34:11.620 what's going on i was like oh this is serious yeah i could i mean if he had a shank if he had

00:34:15.840 any sort of sharp object i would have just been sliced and diced man it's very very scary did you

00:34:20.460 ever give him the gift cards back yeah this was not the gift card guy this was not the gift card

00:34:25.520 guy i will say uh ask him the same question you all those cheesecake factory obviously the guy

00:34:30.800 was arrested um he was arrested by the the police that night and and like they asked if i wanted to

00:34:37.460 press charges and um you know i didn't i i just i asked that the that the mypd just tried to

00:34:44.640 find a way to help him because i knew that he i knew that he was once i saw what happened online

00:34:50.280 like afterwards you know when all the kind of stuff popped up on twitter afterwards like who

00:34:53.780 is this guy what was he doing and i think he posted a video the next day when he like had

00:34:57.580 made bail or something like that and it was clear that he was not in a proper state i was i kind of

00:35:03.000 got what was going on so when they started following up i was like look i don't this guy

00:35:06.100 doesn't need to go to prison he needs help like he needs some help so if there's anything any

00:35:10.520 services you guys offer for you know people in situations like this please you know do that on

00:35:15.880 my behalf so good guy so hopefully that happened i don't i have not heard anything about it no no

00:35:21.440 i haven't heard anything about that but um yeah i just it was a very unfortunate incident all the

00:35:26.760 around i'm happy that nobody was hurt um and hopefully he's gotten well he might have been

00:35:31.540 hurt a little bit but he's nuts yeah yeah yeah but i mean if that's if that's the worst of it 0.98

00:35:36.900 then so be it you know that catfish shit is gonna get worse with the ai dude oh so so like so like 0.99

00:35:44.840 for example i got uh ai scammed recently yes me personally uh because i did a hair surgery in 0.99

00:35:52.800 turkey okay a while back and uh i made this video where i was like yo i got hair surgery in turkey

00:35:58.660 it was like a sponsored thing like i went and got it done right and i was like oh it was the best

00:36:02.900 thing i ever did my hair's growing back quick and they took that part of the of the youtube video

00:36:07.740 and then at one point it just cuts and they added and then it was just me talking over b-roll like

00:36:13.800 but i wouldn't do this surgery again because works better and since he has a podcast into

00:36:20.500 your hair they can take every word he's all your voice and they used my voice and turned it into a 0.93

00:36:25.660 promotion for this hair fiber product you're fucked shawl everybody like the whole legal team 1.00

00:36:35.340 you're fucked i don't care if you're in bulgaria i know exactly how much you're making on drop 1.00

00:36:39.380 shipping 38 000 last month and i'm coming for fucking all of it dude i'm not playing it yet 1.00

00:36:44.680 dude fucking coming for you bro this is like this is like my wwe this is like my wwe dude the words 0.99

00:36:52.160 that i got like i got scammed by an ai because i went and got hair surgery in turkey those words 0.99

00:36:59.860 just came out of your mouth what world are we living in yes that's 2023 this is the life that

00:37:06.680 we're living as human beings we cannot take this for granted we we gotta live with gratitude right

00:37:12.660 now because that is a sentence that if you had uttered even 50 years ago people would have locked

00:37:20.320 you up they'd have thrown you in yeah a hundred percent my nuts unreal that the word those words

00:37:27.740 just came out of your mouth and it's a real sentence and we're all like yep yeah that's it

00:37:33.200 that's so crazy i can't believe they did that to you that's real life bro what are we doing

00:37:38.820 Insane 1.00

00:37:40.000 Shit's gonna get funky dude 1.00

00:37:41.560 It's only gonna get crazier 0.99

00:37:42.800 Especially with that Apple vision coming out now

00:37:44.680 You've seen Apple vision

00:37:45.680 I haven't dug into it

00:37:47.620 I just

00:37:48.020 It's the goggle gimmick right

00:37:49.380 Dude

00:37:49.640 You can

00:37:50.500 Yes

00:37:51.080 Look

00:37:52.020 At the app that you want to play with

00:37:54.740 And the device can recognize where you're looking

00:37:57.440 And then from the side

00:37:58.940 Just pinch your finger as the click

00:38:00.600 Oh no

00:38:01.240 That's where we're at

00:38:02.020 So imagine now

00:38:02.980 It's these big clunky goggles right

00:38:04.780 But when they can like shrink

00:38:05.780 To like a contact size

00:38:07.120 I can't imagine what the world's going to look like in 50 years

00:38:11.020 Inshallah I'm still alive to witness it

00:38:12.680 But we're advancing at a rapid pace

00:38:14.460 I wanted to mention

00:38:16.560 Just on the fan attacking thing really quick

00:38:18.800 Once because this happened to Triple H once

00:38:20.700 Yeah

00:38:21.760 This is like a notorious story right

00:38:23.880 Like some guy went in the ring

00:38:25.580 And Triple H legitimately suplexed 0.90

00:38:28.020 The shit out of him 0.93

00:38:29.600 Just dropped him yeah 0.99

00:38:30.580 Do I need to be concerned for things like this

00:38:33.200 I don't want to be caught off guard

00:38:34.940 Because I feel like

00:38:35.900 my person will have a shank yeah so i've had this so we mentioned this guy from brooklyn the one

00:38:42.220 you're talking about the infamous one he's the one that got to me i've had three other instances

00:38:47.740 where people have got it got tried to get after me um one got in the ring one guy was also in

00:38:54.360 brooklyn another guy in brooklyn i don't i'm not saying nothing about the bar place there

00:38:58.420 step it up i'm making my entrance and he just hops the rail and gets on the aisle and just

00:39:04.060 does my entrance with me and i'm yeah it was so weird dude and i'm just like like i'm walking

00:39:09.340 and i didn't do anything to him because he didn't do anything to me he just was like he's like i'm

00:39:13.520 part of his crew now you know what i mean and then like he got to the bottom of the ramp and

00:39:16.860 got tackled by security quickly uh another one a guy got all the way in the ring and like he was

00:39:21.800 just walking towards me and i shoved him and luckily like when i shoved him back our referee

00:39:26.860 was on the outside of the ring and just tripped him like came in and tackled him and tripped him

00:39:30.340 and then he was it was over but like dude it i mean it's scary yeah i i say head on a swivel

00:39:36.840 yeah for sure you just never know especially like you don't know the mental state of somebody

00:39:42.520 and then you add alcohol into the mix you don't know what what what people are going to do when

00:39:47.460 they're inebriated uh luckily building security is like usually really good so everybody's going

00:39:53.320 through metal detectors so like there's generally a chance that you're not going to get that they're

00:39:57.400 not going to have anything but you just never know so i say no i say you're probably fine

00:40:03.620 but definitely head on a swivel for sure i'll keep it on a swivel i just don't want to get

00:40:07.540 in trouble if i clock someone if someone jumps the rail and you clocked them you will not get

00:40:11.660 in trouble that is that is that so you mentioned the triple h one when you get in the ring are you

00:40:17.480 you you i mean obviously you want to avoid these situations like i said with the guy who got me 1.00

00:40:23.020 I'm like I don't want to be violent with you

00:40:25.420 I want to subdue you

00:40:26.480 but yeah no one's going to fault you in that situation

00:40:29.420 because you have to assume that it's volatile

00:40:31.300 you can't assume he's coming to give you a hug

00:40:33.420 you know what I mean 1.00

00:40:34.060 you might get your first dub

00:40:36.000 yeah

00:40:36.500 that was low

00:40:40.260 he regrets it instantly

00:40:42.640 I can see it on his face

00:40:43.880 if you have a problem with me

00:40:46.060 you can take it back to this podcast

00:40:47.460 in that hallway

00:40:48.560 because I swear to god I'll frog splash you off a balcony brother 0.96

00:40:51.060 he will

00:40:51.820 I believe you

00:40:52.480 I've seen it

00:40:53.100 I have too

00:40:53.860 I have too

00:40:55.020 You are a

00:40:56.800 Coach

00:40:58.260 Yeah

00:40:59.100 Coach

00:40:59.560 Of a wrestling academy

00:41:00.820 Yeah I own a wrestling academy

00:41:02.360 You call me a coach

00:41:03.060 Sure

00:41:03.280 So

00:41:03.880 So these kids

00:41:05.280 Saw some of them

00:41:07.200 Yep

00:41:07.640 You're pretty intense

00:41:10.340 I can be

00:41:11.380 You're a pretty intense coach

00:41:12.340 I can be

00:41:12.840 I feel like you're

00:41:13.580 Since you're as

00:41:15.100 Good as you are

00:41:16.280 At what you do

00:41:16.960 It's gotta be hard

00:41:18.320 To have someone like you

00:41:19.100 As a coach

00:41:19.580 Cause your expectations

00:41:20.740 must be high for these people uh so i i think i mean that's what people pay for right they come

00:41:27.420 to the school for me so they they pay for my opinion uh but no i i think i mean we've been

00:41:33.640 coaching at black and brave for uh 10 years now uh nearly and so i mean i understand very much

00:41:41.500 what it was like to be starting off in the industry and so i don't have i don't have super

00:41:47.420 high expectation but I also you know based on my what I would consider vast amount of experience

00:41:54.820 I do have a good idea and look wrestling is art so it's like there's no perfect way to do it there's

00:42:02.700 no you have to do it this way and that's the only way there's a million ways to do this there's tons

00:42:08.160 of you know our flavors of ice cream if you will you know my favorite's vanilla yours is chocolate

00:42:12.740 here's a strawberry none of us are wrong wrestling is the same way but there are some very specific

00:42:18.660 ways to make things good and i am fairly stringent when it comes to this is what i i know my number

00:42:28.060 one rule if it's good it's good sounds simple enough if it's good it's good but when you see

00:42:32.180 something you hear something you know if it's good and i know when something's good just by

00:42:37.220 watching it and i'm and i try to keep an open mind so like if if something if they have an idea

00:42:42.420 uh, I won't just crap on it right away. You know, let me, let me see it. Let's watch it,

00:42:46.660 play it out. Okay. What can we do to make it better? But if they're not doing their footwork

00:42:52.120 right on a headlock takeover, I'm going to get hot. I'm going to get hot after 10 weeks. I'm

00:42:57.460 like, you gotta have that headlock takeover down. You know, you got it. You're not, you're not

00:43:01.680 Logan Paul. You got to walk before you can run your path. Ain't his path. You want to go do his

00:43:06.460 path, go do his path. You got to do our path. If you came to our school. So yeah, I'm fairly

00:43:10.960 stringent but i'm not my expectations aren't through the roof i don't think anybody's going

00:43:14.060 to come out of there it's 12 week course i don't think anybody's coming out of there ready to main

00:43:17.980 event wrestlemania or anything like that you're coming out of there with the knowledge to be able

00:43:21.460 to go out into your world and you know paint your pictures and learn as an artist i'm giving you

00:43:27.080 the tools i'm giving you the skills it's your job to go out and paint masterpieces is that why they

00:43:32.140 call you the visionary the architect yes kind of uh so i got the nickname actually because when we

00:43:38.860 were in the shield i was like the guy you've done like regular tag matches you know uh six man you

00:43:45.920 add another body and you can kind of see like um you've got this ladder match coming up so like

00:43:50.840 there's seven bodies going on going around in there royal rumble even right like it's so much

00:43:55.920 harder when you have all these different variables so i got the like architect kind of moniker because

00:44:01.420 when we were in the shield we were doing tons of six man tags and like i just have this uh ability

00:44:07.480 to like see things kind of before they're they happen i can like see how they're gonna play out

00:44:13.860 in my head and like i'm able to like chessboard it like just put things in the perfect places to

00:44:19.560 get the reactions that i want i so that's where i kind of got the architect that's morphed into

00:44:23.940 the visionary yeah sort of moniker it's a it's a slightly real life thing no it's cool i got to

00:44:28.960 witness it the the the crafting the storytelling is as an outsider so intriguing to me and now i

00:44:35.940 get it now i'm now i'm invested in the wwe i'm watching friday night smack and i'm watching

00:44:40.040 monday night raw whereas before i don't think i fully appreciated the art of it the story of it

00:44:47.580 certain things need to connect the flow into the next thing um completely unrelated but i know

00:44:54.880 since you guys were were in the in the shield together and now he's i mean he's the face of

00:44:59.260 the business right now who's taking the title from roman reigns if it's up to me it's me

00:45:05.580 you know um but i don't know man i i'd say whoever does is is primed again for a uh

00:45:16.560 for rocket to the moon it has to be no yeah i mean the guy's uh certainly operating on a level

00:45:23.160 um the very few have in the history of our industry um you know he he just he everything

00:45:29.620 he does he he really found his groove being the tribal chief this kind of mob boss character he

00:45:35.460 really found it when he was with us in the shield it you know he was learning uh and then when he

00:45:42.060 was out on his own he couldn't quite figure out exactly what he wanted to be uh you know and that's

00:45:47.900 just a lack of experience you know he's got his foot in the wrong shoe kind of thing um you know

00:45:54.060 the company saw him in a certain way and I don't think that aligned with what his personality is

00:45:59.240 and the way he saw himself uh and then you know one of the things that 2020 and 2021 gave us

00:46:06.400 as an organization was an opportunity to try things that we may not normally do because

00:46:11.380 nobody was watching tv at the time uh we were still doing live shows every single week but

00:46:16.140 we had a chance to play with our characters and take some risks and one of those things that

00:46:20.140 happened was uh in in wrestling jargon turning roman reigns heel um which maybe would never

00:46:27.120 have happened had we not you know been stuck in a warehouse for 18 months or whatever but uh it

00:46:32.340 turned into one of the best possible outcomes for him and for the industry if you look at the story

00:46:40.080 arc of what the bloodline and roman reigns has been over the past few years it's virtually

00:46:46.080 unmatched in our industry it's virtually unmatched it's so hard because of injuries because of the

00:46:53.320 crowd not always jibing what you're doing you got to change stuff sometimes from what you want uh

00:46:59.220 but to be able to consistently tell just a very logic-based emotion-based story for years on

00:47:06.540 episodic television i mean we're talking again every week 52 weeks a year for years like game

00:47:14.180 of thrones they tell a story in 10 episodes right and and that plays out over years when

00:47:19.260 you have the continuity of the stories but to be able to do that with you so's uh sammy zane

00:47:24.600 roman reigns paul hayman for years every single week that's wild nowhere else on television or

00:47:33.740 in movies are you going to find anything like that it doesn't even come close it's it's pretty

00:47:39.900 impressive and so like i said what he's set up that's the thing who's going to be the guy to

00:47:46.600 take the throne and and really push the industry into the next phase because this is this is his

00:47:51.680 era his title smackdown is his show like whoever takes that from him it's going to be a big deal

00:47:56.900 i hate to say it but he's excellent yeah i know he's he's excellent there's not there's no arguing

00:48:01.780 that you say what you can say a lot of other things about him but you cannot deny how incredible

00:48:06.300 he is and what he does it's also so cool to see the character development and see people

00:48:12.340 find themselves in the wwe i mean you obviously had multiple versions of that i think the one

00:48:17.920 you're on right now is awesome thank you roman roman's doing his thing right now but but he

00:48:22.480 found that i got to see dom mysterio do it in real time yep he we had our first wrestlemania

00:48:29.420 together right and now he's got the most heat in the wwe oh yeah and watching watching dom

00:48:37.120 turn against his dad and grow out his mullet oh yeah that mullet got the more evil he got

00:48:44.340 and and he got even more tattoos at the time yeah he literally like evolved into this thing that now 0.98

00:48:51.860 works yeah so is that what it is is it just throwing shit at the wall until the audience 0.55

00:48:56.820 reacts clicks with something and then you run with it yeah dude i mean you can you can like 0.59

00:49:01.040 best laid plans you know you can come up with this great idea but if if if the way you see it

00:49:06.460 isn't the way other people see it it's not going to work and that's not just wrestling that's

00:49:09.800 everything right you got these this vision for what and sometimes wwe's got a reputation for

00:49:14.080 kind of like forcing things but as characters it's on us to figure out it's our brand like yes

00:49:20.900 they are you know wwe's the the overarching theme but like i'm i have to take responsibility for

00:49:27.640 myself and wwe gives us the autonomy to be able to do that because we have these live events we

00:49:33.240 have tv every week we get to if something if we hear something not everybody's going to hear that

00:49:37.840 if we see something not everybody's going to see that about us they can't keep track track of all

00:49:41.960 of these people in every single second of everything they do so like you know you could

00:49:46.180 kind of i wrestled dom in his first match speaking of the pandemic i wrestled in his first match on

00:49:51.480 live television we did this great story with the mysterio family that no one probably ever saw

00:49:56.480 where i obliterated this kid with a kendo stick like i'll obliterated him dude i brew you can

00:50:02.960 find the the images online i mean i just annihilated him with it and uh it built to this

00:50:08.220 match with him and i at summer slam it would have been 2020 probably and uh it it was wonderful to

00:50:14.780 see where he was then you know potential and he was a good guy he's a baby face he's just straight

00:50:19.960 white meat i'm ray mysterio's kid and all that and you could for me i knew i remember i was sitting

00:50:25.780 in a live event not long ago and he was getting just booed out of the building and one of our

00:50:30.160 producers um hurricane helms was sitting there with me and he's like he's like can you he's got

00:50:35.960 a little bit of a lisp he's like uh he's like if you'd have told me six six months ago he's gonna

00:50:41.280 be a top heel in the business but i would you believe it and i was like yes i i that's the

00:50:46.240 visionary part i could see this coming i'm like he's he's because he's not like he's not built

00:50:51.520 to be a baby face he's ray mysterio's kid like he's same thing like people think he's getting

00:50:57.020 handed everything you know being raised kid and like it's so easy to want to hate nepotistic 0.96

00:51:03.520 jerks right it's so easy to want to people like digging off their family name it's easy to hate 0.89

00:51:09.280 that and i'm like the like they're gonna love him at first but eventually it's all gonna come back

00:51:14.060 around but the the the risk is so you said you know you you were concerned being booed and you're

00:51:20.540 not alone in that people don't like that sometimes it's a hard pill to swallow you know like you

00:51:24.820 don't want it's hard for you to not feel like it's personal first for sure yeah it's so it's

00:51:30.860 so unnatural to be like this is fucking awesome yeah yeah yeah so so for him to be able to feel

00:51:36.540 that take that in and then apply it every single week and trust the people around him to you know

00:51:43.660 telling him exactly what to do to be able to do that and then turn it into where it is now where

00:51:48.080 he can't like he can't pick up a microphone to say words because they'll just boo him out of the

00:51:53.780 building you have to see this guy it's fantastic he raises it to his mouth and he he literally can't

00:51:59.780 talk he probably can't even hear himself now he's talking yeah and it's so fun to watch and here's

00:52:04.780 the thing is like i'm with him on these live events all the time and he's a sponge for information so

00:52:09.680 like i'll tell him something hey you should check this out watch yourself do this this is maybe a

00:52:15.200 better way to do it and he'll apply it the next day and it works and he's like oh light bulb and

00:52:20.840 then you could just see the little things that he does every single step of the way start to improve

00:52:25.800 you gotta remember he's still like 23 or something he's a very young cat man so he's still like

00:52:30.760 growing into his body he's learning you know how to do this thing and like trying to fill again we

00:52:36.820 talked about ray mysterio earlier on one of the greatest of all time you can't fill those shoes

00:52:41.300 dude you will never be able to i can't imagine the pressure that that that puts on you so for

00:52:47.200 him to be able to develop himself as something completely different than his dad that's got to

00:52:52.240 take so much weight off of his shoulders he doesn't have to be his father he can be his own

00:52:58.880 thing and that's that's fantastic see you know what's what's tricky about the heel thing for me

00:53:04.680 it's like in basketball or football right you you have away games but eventually you're going to go

00:53:10.180 home for you or like for for heels in this space every night is an away game uh you're well i went

00:53:17.200 to cleveland i didn't didn't they still boo you there a little bit not not not even nearly as

00:53:23.140 much as much in cleveland yeah no it's that's his hometown but i wanted to say the reason why i i

00:53:29.480 feel like it might be a tougher adjustment for someone like you is like these guys go out there

00:53:34.020 under a moniker you know if the undertaker obviously not him but if somebody's a heel at

00:53:38.340 any given time their character is a heel he goes out his real name's logan paul he goes out as

00:53:44.460 logan paul yeah so when he gets booed walking into a place like in a way like you're adjusting

00:53:49.160 to the idea that they're booing you and the only thing that he's ever done in life was played a

00:53:54.400 character he's never played a character before this it's always been him so so you've had to

00:53:59.840 like detach yeah you've had to like kind of detach yourself from the idea that they don't like you

00:54:05.080 And started to come around to the idea

00:54:07.120 That they don't like the character that you play in the WWE

00:54:09.120 You said it exactly

00:54:10.420 And I realized that the noise

00:54:13.080 The boos, the cheers

00:54:14.380 That's the currency

00:54:15.680 That's what I'm getting paid to do

00:54:18.640 That's why I'm there

00:54:19.760 If they're silent

00:54:21.060 That's lame

00:54:23.260 I'm going to get fired

00:54:25.140 If they're cheering

00:54:26.060 It's not as fun for the type of guy I am

00:54:28.920 At the moment

00:54:29.700 But could they ever turn him into a

00:54:33.260 Baby

00:54:34.540 absolutely maybe in a decade absolutely in the work absolutely but but so so you kind of touched

00:54:40.380 on that a little bit like uh so but it's hard because wrestling like you mentioned we play

00:54:45.280 characters we do but it is hard to understand that because the wrestling is like this weird

00:54:51.320 in-between area for characters and real people because the best characters in wrestling our

00:54:57.840 personalities just turned way up and like it's not it's just not like they don't our audience

00:55:04.140 does not see us the same way as george clooney in a movie for sure you know if george clooney

00:55:10.120 goes out and has like a stinker in a movie like people just go oh bad george clooney movie oh well

00:55:15.520 it's probably not his fault he still did great so whatever like he like he's not fully judged on 0.99

00:55:20.900 like the character the content of the character in that movie if he's like a scumbag in there 0.97

00:55:25.840 like no one's like oh i hate george clooney now because he played this rotten mob boss in this

00:55:30.700 movie like they're just like oh wow george clooney killed it he was so good but like wrestling is

00:55:35.120 weird because there's like this like i i was just on the today show the other day i go as seth

00:55:39.960 rollins i don't go as colby lopez you know what i'm saying so like it's this weird it's it's this

00:55:46.200 it's cool because it's the only thing that it's like that that is like but it's also weird and

00:55:52.540 creates some some strange mental processes going on you're locked into it yeah you're tied to it

00:55:59.540 yeah it's it's a funky world we live in it's a funky world we live in i don't know any other

00:56:04.100 way to describe it it's like its own space man do you find a little bit of uh uh solace in your

00:56:10.600 family life oh yeah yeah yeah my my daughter's two and a half now she's the best like that i i never

00:56:17.740 thought i would want to have kids really and like i mentioned earlier the schedule i had when i was

00:56:22.660 in my mid-20s you know time and i and i just was like hey you know if it happens it happens i had

00:56:27.960 you know it was dating girls that i they were fine you know it was great girls nothing bad to

00:56:31.800 say about them but it was just it wasn't you know i didn't feel like ah like i want to have kids with

00:56:35.580 this person i want to be married to this placeholders yeah yeah it was just you know

00:56:38.560 it's just i don't know about placeholders but i mean i cared about them they were great people

00:56:42.400 but you know you just it is what it is you know and i was too focused on myself if i'm being fair

00:56:47.280 if i'm being truly honest it wasn't them it was it's not you it's me it was me i just like i said

00:56:51.940 wrestling was my first love and there was no i wasn't going to put anything before that including

00:56:55.300 relationships and family and then uh once you know me and becky got together uh four years ago just

00:57:01.740 i was like oh okay i get it now here we are and then we had a kid and uh she's the best and so

00:57:08.880 like that's that's the time i it's hard for me to shut down from the business because i'm in it so

00:57:13.600 much and i do love it so much but like if ever there had been a time where it wasn't my first

00:57:19.500 love having my wife and kid probably has taken that over i would say it's probably now number

00:57:25.580 two if you guys ever get in arguments at home is it you ain't getting in headlocks like what 1.00

00:57:31.760 what does that i wish that sounds a lot a lot easier than than having to deal with a woman's 0.99

00:57:36.780 emotions a lot less dangerous right definitely yeah no i mean she's got a mean forearm though 1.00

00:57:44.140 she's got real bony elbows so she throws that uppercut or a forearm i mean i had to get her 1.00

00:57:48.260 ready for uh we were in the ring getting her ready when she was coming back from uh having 1.00

00:57:52.700 our kid so we were in the ring a lot and like i'd never really worked with her you know just guys

00:57:57.420 and girls don't mix that much you know so like we're in the ring and you know we're kind of

00:58:01.680 going at it and doing stuff and like she popped me with a forearm and i'm like what is happening 1.00

00:58:06.700 like why is this hurt so much you're tiny i mean she's she's feisty and gritty and you know she's

00:58:12.480 got some oof behind her but like it was the bony it's the bony elbow she's iris right yeah she's

00:58:17.500 irish yeah she's got a mean street too she's got that she's got she do you luckily we don't we

00:58:23.180 don't argue very much knock on wood like we're we're pretty on the same page which is dope but 1.00

00:58:27.540 like the times that i have frustrated her it's like okay watch out for that yeah yeah i'll stay 1.00

00:58:33.940 away for a minute you just do you yeah she's irish she's got that street she's another impulsive 0.54

00:58:38.280 alum yeah incredible incredible personality incredible personality she's the man like it

00:58:44.960 makes it man it makes it's such a cool link up like you two like from from an outside looking

00:58:50.300 in standpoint and just like the two characters coming together it's just it's dope yeah thank

00:58:55.500 you man there's a lot of there's a lot of uh wrestler love within the industry right i mean

00:59:00.700 because you guys do the same thing the travel schedules line up it it makes sense yeah if you

00:59:05.500 can find the the person like bianca and montez another example yeah i always thought um i always

00:59:11.760 thought that i was never gonna like date another wrestler i was like i don't know it's a bad idea

00:59:16.080 but then like you said all that lines up all that makes sense and then and they're really the only

00:59:22.460 people who get it like i found at least like it's just hard for anybody to really understand like

00:59:27.620 the schedule the commitment uh and to have the passion for it so the fact that we have all these

00:59:32.260 things that line up for us makes it so easy so the pressure's off so like if if i'm going through

00:59:37.440 If I'm having a rough spell and, like, I'm just – I have a couple weeks or a bad – like, I take – if something doesn't go right on Monday, I get really upset about it.

00:59:46.900 Like, I'll emotionally eat it for a while, like, for a few days.

00:59:50.660 But, like, she gets that. 0.99

00:59:51.860 So, like, there's no pressure for her – for me to, like, hey, get your shit together. 0.98

00:59:56.760 We got this to do on Tuesday or Wednesday, you know? 0.99

00:59:59.140 Like, she gets it.

00:59:59.980 so like if she's got to pick up extra slack or something like that or just just be understanding

01:00:04.160 have a conversation like she knows how to talk to me when when i'm not feeling great about how

01:00:08.580 a promo went or something awareness that awareness and relationships is is insanely important as you

01:00:13.780 start to get older it's 100 yeah and just knowing just understanding each other and understanding

01:00:18.740 the things you guys go through and all that and so yeah it was it's uh it's been a godsend i think

01:00:23.760 at least for me i hope for her as well but it's been it's been really nice and i honestly couldn't

01:00:28.660 have done the last four years without her that's very sweet i think you should take her to bukity

01:00:33.480 beppo i'm gonna find a book although she has like a million uh she's like she can't eat gluten

01:00:40.400 oh yeah don't take her gluten she's vegetarian sweet green sweet green sweet green yeah we got 0.99

01:00:47.340 a sweet green right around that's why her elbows are so sharp she loves a sweet green i hate

01:00:51.860 superlatives but i have to take this opportunity to ask do you have a favorite match of all time

01:00:57.500 hard hard hard i've done like um according to the internet webs i've had like 2 000 matches

01:01:03.580 so it's really hard for me to like pick one and i and i and i'm a pretty harsh critic of myself

01:01:09.460 so i very rarely watch anything back match moments anything like when you cashed in yeah yeah money

01:01:16.340 in the bank at wrestlemania that's the defining one right like that's the one that changed my

01:01:20.160 career without without that money in the bank contract and without that particular cash in

01:01:24.180 i'm probably not sitting here having this conversation with you all so that's the one

01:01:27.740 that that stands out i think you know um that's the one that's gonna like live forever i think

01:01:33.280 you know i think in this industry it's really about moments like i don't want to toot my own

01:01:38.020 horn but i have great matches every week all the time and that's not not like i'm not saying oh i'm

01:01:43.120 so great i'm just i'm in a i'm in a groove like you're very good at what you do yeah like the

01:01:46.860 crowd is with me it's like we understand each other there's a good synergy so like i can have

01:01:51.640 a great match and they will get forgotten about in an instant so like the business is really about

01:01:57.440 moments that can last forever you know wrestlemania like what's a moment how do we splash ksi through

01:02:04.980 a table how do we put him through a table like these are things that we i what is the audience

01:02:10.840 gonna keep in their mind for more than 24 hours because especially in the age of content where all

01:02:18.860 it everything and you know i've heard many like media executives mention this but everything is

01:02:24.580 competition when it comes to media because it's all sort of just this one noise yeah this is it's

01:02:30.000 way saturated and wwe is the king of content we have so much content and so you have to go how

01:02:36.300 do you make moments that are going to last for any amount of time that are going to register with

01:02:41.380 people for years the cash in at wrestlemania is the one where like i had a guy tell me a few years

01:02:47.820 ago that for him it was like his generation's version of hogan slamming andre at wrestlemania

01:02:55.180 three and so i go that's that probably made you feel awesome that's cool because you remember

01:03:00.520 that moment obviously so i remember dude but yeah hogan and andre i was i was too young for that but

01:03:05.260 like i i i see you know i know the the picture everything you know it that 93 000 pontiac

01:03:11.100 silver dome main event biggest wrestlemania like i could i have that one like hogan warrior at

01:03:15.800 Wrestlemania 6, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart, Wrestlemania 12.

01:03:18.660 I've got Rock and Hogan, Wrestlemania 18, I think it was.

01:03:23.980 There's all these big ones.

01:03:25.420 And to be included in that, that you know it's going to last for generations.

01:03:31.000 Very few people get the opportunity to create moments like that on an industry

01:03:34.680 to be part of that.

01:03:35.800 Like I said, if I didn't have that, we wouldn't be sitting here

01:03:38.140 having this conversation.

01:03:39.160 But a lot of your highest rated matches are as of recently.

01:03:42.600 I didn't even know this, but evidently there's a whole rating system

01:03:45.420 oh god don't get me started on the ratings you have a very rare five-star rated match with cody

01:03:52.000 roads coming out of 2022 so i mean technically you're right you're at the top here you're at

01:03:57.820 the peak bro it's just those those star ratings don't mean don't don't even say his last name

01:04:05.120 don't even give him the credit on this podcast look he gave you five stars i know that's what

01:04:12.060 do you do you know and if i'm not mistaken like i think that like kurt angle has no five-star

01:04:20.540 matches okay one of the greatest of all time and there's a there's a plethora of these people

01:04:25.540 my point is dave's great he's a historian dave melzer is his name he's great he's a great historian

01:04:31.600 he's been a part of the business for a long long time he started with the wrestling observer

01:04:35.460 newsletter that was his big thing so they used to send out literal actual newsletters every month

01:04:41.700 to subscribers just detailing what had happened here and there yeah whatever had happened anywhere

01:04:48.580 in wrestling that month and you know he was big in japan he would look at everything in mexico

01:04:53.400 anything where there was wrestling going on that was drawing crowds he was reporting on injuries

01:04:57.960 backstage news all that stuff and now there's this whole culture online because the backstage stuff

01:05:03.260 is you know what are they going to do they're doing how do they get this information oh there's

01:05:07.120 moles everywhere is there because i see these tweets the rumors blah blah and i'm like i don't

01:05:11.140 even know about this how do you know how sometimes i do know about it and it's true yeah and i don't 0.61

01:05:17.560 know who's leaking this information dude somebody out there is is leaking it to somebody or telling

01:05:22.240 somebody who's telling somebody who's telling so you never know you never know you gotta be very

01:05:25.760 careful with your information this industry but he's great as a historian but match ratings are

01:05:29.920 silly match ratings are very silly what's subjective like i said it's so subjective

01:05:34.260 like if if it's good it's good like i said you know when something's good i can watch a match 0.90

01:05:39.040 on any show on the planet in front of a crowd of 70 000 in front of 20 mike if if the people are

01:05:44.740 popping it's a good time that's the end of the game but like to put star ratings on it i get

01:05:50.280 good for you good yeah good for you you found you found something that like people have latched on

01:05:56.500 to and it's fun to debate and all that stuff but in the grand scheme it really it it means very

01:06:02.360 little well you know ratings just do good nowadays like pizza or any any people just love being in

01:06:08.200 on the idea of scoring this of course right so it was always going to work one thing that you've

01:06:12.560 also gotten scored extremely high on your walkout song oh yeah yeah people seem to dig that thing

01:06:18.420 man the best i don't know if it's the best i mean there's some bangers uh edge likes to think his

01:06:23.560 is the best okay that's fair that's no i don't know if he said that no oh i don't know people

01:06:28.800 like to think that the some people p some there are maybe some people out there who think that

01:06:33.300 the edges is the best are you calling him the edge the edges the edge edge yeah no i give him

01:06:38.580 an extra it's like the facebook okay i go back you go deeper so i added it nice yeah uh i mean

01:06:44.640 it's hot right now people love it man they're singing it in the streets it's pretty wild

01:06:47.840 bro when you came in when we were doing our thing they i couldn't get a word in oh yeah

01:06:53.300 they just wouldn't stop going when do they start singing because i want my fans all three of them

01:07:00.360 to sing my song there's a chant in there i just got a new song oh you got a new one when we were

01:07:06.540 doing our thing oh yeah yeah i was like i need a i need a like a kind of sing song bit whatever

01:07:11.980 when did the fans start vibing with the song in that way dude i debuted this song wrestlemania

01:07:17.700 in 2021 it was in tampa we only had like it was a half capacity wrestlemania it was still like the

01:07:22.840 oh we're back but we're not back uh because we didn't even go back to full scale live events

01:07:26.820 until like august of that year but in march we did wrestlemania outdoors tampa let us have half

01:07:31.940 the people so we did it in raymond james did the song and when i was putting the song together i

01:07:37.040 i kind of had a vision for like what i wanted people to do and when we first when we first put

01:07:42.460 the song out uh vince mcmahon was actually you know he heard it he was just hearing it for like

01:07:47.680 the first or second time and he he actually took a set of the the woes out he didn't get he didn't

01:07:53.180 get the woes he was like oh that's not that's not seth rollins that's not seth freaking rollins

01:07:57.560 and i'm like i'm telling you he's like no no no just trust me i'm like all right fine i'll trust

01:08:02.100 you you've only been doing this for 80 years whatever so like he uh he he took the woes out

01:08:08.640 but in the back of my mind i was like i'm like you just wait you just wait no they never went

01:08:12.800 back in the version you hear now is still the vince version but there's enough of the woes

01:08:17.500 that it it caught on and so it took a while because i was a heel no one was singing my song

01:08:23.180 they weren't they didn't care at first and we weren't in front of people so it wasn't until

01:08:26.820 august that the songs debuted in front of people like you know regularly so then fast forward to

01:08:32.560 2022 ish and like it didn't happen for me i and i've told this a little bit but i'll tell you guys

01:08:38.940 here i i'm kind of a heel through most of i'm healed through most of 2022 i worked with the

01:08:45.140 edge invaded his home did all this this bad stuff that i shouldn't do but uh eventually i end up

01:08:51.400 working with matt riddle and there's this episode of raw we did at madison square garden and at the

01:08:58.000 end of the show i don't remember what happened riddle has this match at the end of the show

01:09:02.180 i come out and i stomp this man's head into steel steps into steel steps and normally as a bad guy

01:09:12.420 this elicits a chorus of booze because matt riddle is a fan favorite but i stomp this guy's head

01:09:18.380 into steps and i turn around expecting booze and the crowd is just singing the song in in the garden

01:09:26.000 and i'm like okay i think this is a thing now i think this is going to be a thing and sure enough

01:09:31.600 little by little it just starts picking up picking up picking up picking up and then it turned into

01:09:36.540 its own its own animal man to the point where yeah you couldn't get a word in edgewise did a thing

01:09:41.800 with finn balor on raw a few weeks ago like to the point where people online the twitter verse

01:09:46.640 is like it's annoying it's too it's but we don't like this it's the new what chant and i'm like

01:09:51.860 come on guys if twitter doesn't like it you know it's good yeah exactly right but music is like

01:09:58.140 it really is the great equalizer it's like it's like another mathematics it's universally just

01:10:03.380 understandable if you have the right hit song to walk out to it's a great way to start a match 0.96

01:10:08.960 Even these wankers in London can even understand it. 1.00

01:10:11.540 You're a wanker. 1.00

01:10:12.480 According to London, you're a wanker. 1.00

01:10:14.100 I'm not. 1.00

01:10:14.440 They were chanting, Logan's a wanker. 0.97

01:10:17.940 And so I'm walking back after my thing, Friday Night Smackdown. 0.98

01:10:20.980 I'm telling them individually, I'm not a wanker.

01:10:23.540 I'm not a wanker.

01:10:25.080 I'm not.

01:10:25.740 I'm not a wanker. 0.99

01:10:26.020 They were chanting, Logan's a wanker. 0.97

01:10:27.680 You try to tell every one of the people that he's not a wanker. 0.99

01:10:30.140 I try to.

01:10:31.000 I'm pitching them individually.

01:10:32.580 And here's why I'm not.

01:10:35.060 Maybe you convinced one.

01:10:36.520 It just starts with one, man. 1.00

01:10:37.720 Honestly, I'm a fucking wanker. 1.00

01:10:41.180 That thing between you and Riddle. 1.00

01:10:44.180 What about him?

01:10:46.440 Got pretty nasty in one of the clips I saw.

01:10:50.960 He said his wife and kids left him.

01:10:54.140 Yeah, they did.

01:10:55.380 Well, his wife did, yeah.

01:10:57.340 Then he got pissed.

01:10:58.780 He's like, I'm not going to arrest you. 1.00

01:11:00.100 I'm going to beat your ass. 1.00

01:11:02.020 Yes, sir. 1.00

01:11:02.820 I felt something watching that split screen.

01:11:05.900 Yeah.

01:11:07.720 Was that too far, Seth?

01:11:09.340 I don't think there's ever such a thing as too far.

01:11:12.380 You remember it, though, right?

01:11:13.580 And we're talking about it months later.

01:11:15.080 So there you go.

01:11:16.180 That's what I'm talking about with moments, man.

01:11:17.920 That's it.

01:11:18.720 That's it.

01:11:19.140 And look, we had a bit of a real-life beef, if you will.

01:11:24.440 I had a bit of an issue with him.

01:11:26.380 That explains that.

01:11:27.140 Yeah, so you kind of got to see that play out on live television a little bit.

01:11:32.980 So it worked it to our favor because now we have a moment that's viral

01:11:36.440 and something that you remember that affected you so win win win i would say how are things now

01:11:41.640 fine fine yeah yeah yeah totally good i mean look i'm i'm uh i'm a professional so like if you want

01:11:47.680 if we work together we can work together things that happen outside of here that that is what it

01:11:52.200 is you know but like he he uh he apologized um and and we mended fences and i'm all about like

01:12:00.220 i don't write anybody off i'm not like one of those guys it's like no second chances you do

01:12:04.480 wrong by me i hate you forever like i'm not that stubborn it's not that serious man like unless

01:12:08.820 you do some real nasty stuff but like you know everybody makes mistakes so like i'm all about 0.86

01:12:13.820 like forgiveness second chances what what have you so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt you

01:12:18.060 you know i'll i'll forgive not always forget but you know i'm willing to move forward and so he

01:12:23.960 was a big man about it came forward and apologized and we're able to work together and i'm happy for

01:12:29.220 that the timing of this particular episode is weird because it's before it's the day of money

01:12:36.640 in the bank today do you have or any ideas about summer slam do you have your eyes on anyone does

01:12:42.400 anyone have their eyes on you i would hope i think there's a few people who've got their eyes on me

01:12:47.160 i mean i go out there and put these open challenges on for these titles i go down to nxt and work with

01:12:52.660 brawn breaker you know i was on i've done a couple on brawl now uh damian priest and stuff like that

01:12:58.620 and I've got Finn Balor tonight at Money in the Bank.

01:13:01.100 But I don't know, man.

01:13:02.780 I mean, we've got a big show in Ford Field.

01:13:05.200 We're going to try to put tens of thousands of people in that place.

01:13:08.740 And so I'm hoping for a good matchup.

01:13:12.620 There's nobody that I'm like, I want that one.

01:13:16.460 The one match that I haven't gotten,

01:13:19.040 I had one match with Roman for the title two Royal Rumbles ago.

01:13:24.200 I haven't touched it.

01:13:25.420 I think that's a WrestleMania match.

01:13:28.620 But other than that, man, I don't know.

01:13:30.420 I've been out there doing my thing for a long time.

01:13:33.580 I've worked with a lot of the guys on the roster.

01:13:36.260 I'd love to see somebody step up.

01:13:37.800 I don't know who it's going to be, but I'd love to fight somebody

01:13:40.020 and have a big-time title match there.

01:13:42.020 Do you want to know what I'm going to do?

01:13:43.000 What are you going to do?

01:13:43.880 I don't know.

01:13:44.520 Okay.

01:13:44.960 But there are two guys that I would love to potentially have a match with

01:13:49.460 at SummerSlam.

01:13:50.100 Okay.

01:13:50.840 I don't really know how this works.

01:13:53.700 Do I pitch a company?

01:13:54.560 Do they pitch me?

01:13:55.480 Pitch them right now. 0.86

01:13:56.440 Pitch them straight down the pipe. 1.00

01:13:57.660 H-Triple-H.

01:13:58.620 The two guys are Ricochet and LA Knight

01:14:02.280 For various reasons

01:14:04.680 So Ricochet is obviously

01:14:06.260 I think he's probably one of the most

01:14:08.400 Athletic guys in the WWE

01:14:09.580 I would consider myself also

01:14:12.280 Extremely athletic in the WWE

01:14:13.760 And a part of me wants to

01:14:15.560 Put those two things together

01:14:17.080 I want to show him who the better athlete is

01:14:19.300 I want to out-athlete the athlete

01:14:21.640 In the WWE

01:14:22.800 I think we could have

01:14:23.760 One of the most physically

01:14:25.780 spectacular phenomenon

01:14:28.660 shows of all time.

01:14:30.260 Five-star Dave Meltzer?

01:14:31.500 Yeah, five-star Meltzer.

01:14:32.600 I would love to absolutely 0.83

01:14:33.920 melt the house down

01:14:34.820 with Ricochet.

01:14:35.400 Okay.

01:14:35.760 And then on the other hand,

01:14:37.220 I see old man,

01:14:38.620 old man Ricker,

01:14:39.680 LA Knight,

01:14:40.360 coming into the WWE. 0.98

01:14:42.280 They love him.

01:14:42.880 I hate that they love him.

01:14:43.900 They love him, dude.

01:14:44.800 And they hate me

01:14:45.560 and they hate that I hate him.

01:14:47.020 Yeah.

01:14:47.600 And there's a,

01:14:49.260 we got a little bit

01:14:50.040 of a thing, dog.

01:14:50.720 There's something there, right?

01:14:51.960 I was in his face

01:14:53.720 last night.

01:14:54.740 Oh, yeah.

01:14:54.840 it felt a little real like i don't think he gets my thing okay that well um and neither does the

01:15:03.180 wwe universe he sort of speaks for them okay and they appreciate the time and the fact that he's

01:15:09.400 earned it and i get that and i'd love to take all of that away from him in one night

01:15:13.420 but you really are digging into this this i like that hey hey triple h you got two paths

01:15:20.180 but then after

01:15:22.560 SummerSlam my brother

01:15:24.680 who is fighting on the same night

01:15:26.400 in Dallas

01:15:27.300 as soon as my match ends

01:15:29.840 I'm going to hop on a PJ

01:15:31.720 fly to Dallas in my gear

01:15:34.500 walk in the ring

01:15:36.520 with my brother for his fight

01:15:38.360 against Nate Diaz

01:15:39.100 I don't know if I'm going to make it

01:15:43.380 but I think

01:15:44.200 if I do it'll be minutes

01:15:46.240 I walk into the venue

01:15:47.740 round one Jake Paul Nate Diaz starts

01:15:49.840 It's on August 5th

01:15:51.020 Have you logistically looked at it

01:15:52.740 It is barely possible

01:15:55.980 Oh yeah

01:15:56.420 You'd have to open the show 0.98

01:15:59.720 I requested first match

01:16:01.720 Numero uno at SummerSlam

01:16:03.200 And then fly down to Dallas

01:16:05.400 Detroit to Dallas

01:16:06.680 It's like two and a half hours

01:16:07.840 One hour time difference

01:16:09.820 Jake will go on at 11

01:16:10.780 We did it, the math, it's barely doable

01:16:13.480 Oh cause you get the hour back too

01:16:15.440 That'd be crazy

01:16:17.720 Do you follow any of the boxing stuff

01:16:19.820 a little bit yeah a little bit now i mean i follow mma a bit more than straight boxing but

01:16:25.620 yeah enough enough i'm excited for that one that's an interesting one nate in a pure boxing match i

01:16:30.520 don't i don't know how that plays you know what i'm saying so i'm very curious to see uh and look

01:16:35.640 i think jake's got a bit of a power edge you know nate's not known for his his one punch power but

01:16:43.760 we'll see how much of a ability to take abuse edge jake has versus nate yeah no nate could just go

01:16:51.540 yeah just keep going for his chin is insane it's insane so it'll be interesting you know jake's got

01:16:56.460 the age he's got the power yeah sure so i you know i my money is on jake yeah well i mean when

01:17:01.900 you're nate diaz it helps taking hits when you got no brain listen this has been a great episode

01:17:07.120 thanks man i appreciate you guys

01:17:08.920 it's been great dude uh maybe i'll see you in the ring in the future but regardless i believe

01:17:17.180 we delivered on this podcast dude this was a this was a great yeah for real great for real

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