Impaulsive with Logan Paul - April 27, 2026


Stephen A. Smith GOES NUCLEAR on Jake Paul's Boxing Career, DISSES LeBron James, Fury Vs Joshua

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00:00:28.460 Ladies and gentlemen, Stephen A. Smith.
00:00:31.980 You definitely have gotten yourself in some sticky situations.
00:00:34.780 Someone call him the GOAT, LeBron James?
00:00:36.620 I don't call him the GOAT.
00:00:38.760 Michael Jordan won six titles, six NBA Finals MVPs.
00:00:42.360 Never once allowed a championship series to get to a Game 7.
00:00:45.520 They created rules to stop him. 0.99
00:00:47.880 But dammit, I ain't here to make you feel good. 0.99
00:00:49.880 I'm here to give you facts. 0.99
00:00:51.240 When LeBron confronted you, what was that like?
00:00:53.420 I never did what he implied that I did.
00:00:55.840 And to paint that narrative just because you don't like the fact that I don't view you as the GOAT really pissed me off.
00:01:01.800 You had an encounter with someone by the name of Dan Houser. 0.99
00:01:04.700 You are cursed. 0.99
00:01:06.420 Stephen A. Smith me. 0.99
00:01:07.460 The Dan Houser curse is real.
00:01:08.660 I've seen him do it to everyone in my organization. 0.99
00:01:11.080 I'm not worried about me, but them damn nicks don't look the same. 0.98
00:01:14.320 Tommy Fury is fighting Eddie Hall, former world's strongest man. 0.99
00:01:17.600 Tommy Fury's got decent boxing skill.
00:01:20.000 Yep.
00:01:20.400 Minimal power.
00:01:21.440 What's your take on the A.J. Fury fight?
00:01:23.760 Anthony Joshua can knock anybody out, but he can also get knocked out by anybody.
00:01:28.520 Do you feel partially responsible for the fact that Jake fought Anthony Joshua?
00:01:32.320 I actually did.
00:01:33.360 I was like, I ain't telling him to do that.
00:01:34.740 You win the WWE.
00:01:35.740 You know what?
00:01:36.260 I think that Paul Heyman needs a competition.
00:01:39.500 Who is the most unstoppable force in the WWE right now?
00:01:44.200 I want to see this brother go for the heavyweight championship.
00:01:53.760 wow las vegas wrestlemania 42 are you ready for the number one podcast in the world
00:02:05.060 so without further ado let's meet our first host hit it
00:02:23.760 That's right, he is one half the impulsive show, founder of 1010 Burger, and of course
00:02:34.080 the best-selling author of the fifth vital.
00:02:37.500 Ladies and gentlemen, from Milford, Connecticut, it is Mike Maylap!
00:02:45.860 Well, Mike, how does it feel to be here in Las Vegas?
00:02:48.980 Fantastic!
00:02:50.160 How's everybody doing out there?
00:02:51.660 I think all of a sudden this might be like a heel show.
00:02:54.700 I don't know.
00:02:55.980 We'll see what the crowd feels like today.
00:02:58.680 You're looking good, Mike.
00:03:00.100 Unk status in the building.
00:03:01.360 We got the number one unk in the building right here.
00:03:03.100 I got the unk shoes on, too.
00:03:04.800 Are you ready to meet the face of the franchise?
00:03:08.700 Are you guys ready to meet the co-founder of Impulsive,
00:03:11.820 the founder of Prime Hydration,
00:03:14.060 and, of course, the brand-new collectible platform, Rippit?
00:03:17.420 Ladies and gentlemen, face your attention to the main stage.
00:03:22.280 Hit it.
00:03:39.980 That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
00:03:42.280 He is one half of your WWE World Tag Champion.
00:03:47.420 he's making
00:03:50.520 Cleveland, Ohio proud
00:03:52.980 he is the maverick
00:03:55.180 he is
00:03:57.360 Logan
00:03:59.100 Paul
00:04:00.980 and she said she's going to get it tattooed on her arm
00:04:13.660 do it
00:04:14.620 is that a good idea?
00:04:16.860 Yes, it is.
00:04:20.200 Are you sure?
00:04:21.860 I'm going to have her say it so everyone knows.
00:04:24.820 Hey, have Jeff have her sign a consent form for that.
00:04:27.480 Yeah, we are going to need you to sign a form.
00:04:29.220 Wait, so what exactly, what do you want?
00:04:31.560 Humble.
00:04:32.360 You want me to write humble?
00:04:34.080 Yes.
00:04:34.840 And then what?
00:04:36.060 Just humble.
00:04:36.940 And what are you going to do with it?
00:04:38.700 Tattooed writing.
00:04:40.760 Horrible idea, but Matt humble.
00:04:43.100 Write it good.
00:04:44.140 All right.
00:04:44.920 Write it good, okay.
00:04:46.580 it's actually kind of hard
00:04:59.500 i think that i think that'll work
00:05:01.640 i think that'll work you're a legend
00:05:03.520 all right i have no time steven a smith got a hard out
00:05:08.400 he got a hard out coming in hot
00:05:17.000 Yeah!
00:05:20.000 Yo, this is fun, Logan.
00:05:21.520 That's the most athletic thing I've ever seen you do.
00:05:23.780 That is, that's incredible.
00:05:25.660 Should I go for the moonsault?
00:05:27.020 Dude, if we can get the elliptical up here, Mike will go crazy.
00:05:29.620 Well, our guest is actually waiting back there.
00:05:31.480 We took a lot of time.
00:05:32.640 He's a busy guy.
00:05:33.940 We have been trying to get this guy on our podcast for, I mean, years.
00:05:37.580 Years and years.
00:05:38.340 Absolute legend.
00:05:39.100 Very busy.
00:05:40.020 A voice of sports represents generations.
00:05:43.680 Ladies and gentlemen, it is my honor to introduce to you Stephen A. Smith.
00:05:52.520 Does Stephen have music?
00:05:54.560 I think he does.
00:05:56.120 Hey, cue the music.
00:05:57.360 Yeah, he's a poor guy.
00:05:58.560 Give him something.
00:06:00.300 No, don't do him like that.
00:06:02.560 Hey.
00:06:03.000 Hey.
00:06:13.080 The man, the myth, the legend, Stephen A. Smith.
00:06:38.780 What's up, y'all?
00:06:40.220 What's up, dude?
00:06:41.400 All right, cut the music.
00:06:42.320 Let's get serious.
00:06:43.340 Steven, answer honestly, please.
00:06:45.580 Do I need a haircut?
00:06:46.880 Yeah.
00:06:48.320 You look good, though.
00:06:49.560 I mean, when you're as talented as you are, you can get away with it.
00:06:53.100 But that don't mean you don't need it.
00:06:54.620 Yeah, thanks.
00:06:55.320 Thanks, Steven.
00:06:55.780 I got a text today from someone.
00:06:59.580 A girl named Hallie Batchelder.
00:07:02.860 She's a creator from New York.
00:07:04.620 She said, what is going on with Logan's hair?
00:07:09.900 He cannot be serious.
00:07:13.080 He can get away with it.
00:07:14.360 Yeah.
00:07:14.980 He can get away with it.
00:07:15.700 You know why?
00:07:16.480 You good.
00:07:16.780 To Allie and everyone wondering what I'm doing.
00:07:18.560 Because, look, I see the tweets.
00:07:20.040 I see the tweets.
00:07:20.800 They say, it's crazy to have that kind of haircut at 30 years old.
00:07:25.120 You're right.
00:07:25.780 You're absolutely right.
00:07:26.500 But when I wrestle tomorrow and I'm sweaty and it's movement.
00:07:31.840 Nobody will care.
00:07:32.760 No, it's going to look sick.
00:07:34.400 It's going to look sick.
00:07:35.260 Steven, I'm committed.
00:07:36.620 Right?
00:07:36.940 I'm committed to wrestling.
00:07:38.080 I'm a full-timer now.
00:07:39.680 How do you feel about that?
00:07:42.140 No, no.
00:07:42.960 This is our show, and you're the guest.
00:07:45.000 So how do you feel about that?
00:07:46.720 I don't mind.
00:07:48.120 I don't mind at all, you know?
00:07:50.000 You deserve it.
00:07:51.440 You know, I got to give you props, Wes.
00:07:53.140 Dude, you're a hell of an athlete.
00:07:54.600 You're always in shape.
00:07:55.980 You don't cheat, fans.
00:07:57.560 You bring it.
00:07:58.500 So, you know, I've always had love for you and your brother.
00:08:00.340 Yeah, man, dude, it's always been nice because you, I mean,
00:08:04.780 I actually don't mind not hearing it over the speaker.
00:08:07.920 I can just, this is much better.
00:08:09.820 Man, you got hot takes, and you've been known to be pretty critical,
00:08:15.140 but you've always been pretty nice to me and my brother, you know?
00:08:17.840 You deserve it.
00:08:18.800 I appreciate that, Steven.
00:08:19.860 Y'all, to me, y'all, what you and your brother have never been given enough credit for
00:08:25.360 is that, especially when it came to the sport of boxing,
00:08:30.900 you reminded everybody you don't need to be at the mercy of promoters.
00:08:35.560 You can market yourself.
00:08:37.760 I only have one criticism about your brother, and I told him to his face.
00:08:40.880 He knows this.
00:08:41.880 He can fight.
00:08:43.140 Stop beating up non-fighters.
00:08:45.540 You know what I'm saying?
00:08:46.240 And so he got to the ring, and even though he lost his last fight,
00:08:49.980 I didn't look at that as a negative at all.
00:08:52.320 You going in there against Anthony Joshua, that guy was 250 pounds.
00:08:55.940 You know, he didn't have to go that route.
00:08:57.760 I didn't tell him to go that route.
00:08:58.960 He didn't have to go that route, but I give him a lot of props where he's due,
00:09:03.280 and I appreciate what y'all do for sports.
00:09:05.100 I really do.
00:09:05.600 Do you feel partially responsible for the fact that Jake fought Anthony Joshua and had his jaw?
00:09:10.420 I actually did at the moment.
00:09:12.380 I was like this.
00:09:13.300 I ain't telling him to do that.
00:09:14.880 I ain't telling him to do that.
00:09:16.120 I was just saying, you know, get in the ring with a cat that's a boxer.
00:09:20.420 But even if you're going to get to the ring with an elite fighter, it didn't have to be somebody 50 pounds heavier than you.
00:09:26.160 You know what I'm saying?
00:09:26.760 I mean, wait a minute.
00:09:27.740 That's not Anthony Joshua walks around at 250.
00:09:30.740 You didn't have to do that.
00:09:32.440 Get in the ring with somebody 200.
00:09:34.360 That's all I would say.
00:09:35.600 It's kind of off topic, but what do you think the next step on the ladder looks like for Jake Paul right now?
00:09:43.100 First of all, Jake can take a punch.
00:09:45.540 He damn sure can give one. 0.95
00:09:48.420 And both, neither him nor Logan, they don't mind being hated. 0.94
00:09:53.360 You know, at the end of the day, Logan said something this morning on our first take that was absolutely on the money.
00:09:59.820 He said, talked about the enemy of all this indifference.
00:10:04.280 You're not indifference about the Pauls.
00:10:06.280 You're not indifferent.
00:10:07.200 You're going to walk into the ring, you're going to root for Paul,
00:10:09.140 you're going to root for Jake, or you're going to root against him.
00:10:11.240 But in the end, he's not going to cheat you.
00:10:13.800 You know he's training, you know he cares, you know he's trying his best,
00:10:17.500 you know he's not taking it for granted.
00:10:19.480 And guess what?
00:10:20.340 He can take a L and come back.
00:10:22.340 And I don't think there's any problem with that whatsoever.
00:10:25.020 And I think that if he fights guys his size, not too bigger,
00:10:28.680 fights guys his size, he'll beat most of them.
00:10:31.680 He really, really will.
00:10:32.460 I like Jake.
00:10:33.300 I really do.
00:10:34.780 The Anthony Joshua of it all is really interesting.
00:10:39.240 Not to make it too somber, but he obviously went through something just absolutely devastating and tragic.
00:10:46.700 Or accident.
00:10:47.440 In the accident.
00:10:48.200 Yeah, losing his two friends.
00:10:49.780 I mean, bro, it's horrible.
00:10:52.500 It's inexplicable.
00:10:53.240 It's one of those things where when I see something like that happen, I'm just like, why?
00:10:57.340 Why did that happen in this lifetime?
00:10:59.820 And I was unsure how he was going to bounce back, if he was going to bounce back, what that looks like.
00:11:06.280 How does someone overcome something as hard as that in their lifetime?
00:11:11.660 And it seems like there may be some promo or something leading up to an AJ Fury fight.
00:11:19.140 What's your take on just Anthony's situation in life and where he's going to take his career?
00:11:23.820 Anthony Joshua's a really good guy.
00:11:25.660 One of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
00:11:27.080 class personified is respects the game respects you as a human being the whole bit as a boxer
00:11:34.580 here's what makes him one of the most exciting fighters out there he can knock anybody out
00:11:40.640 but he can also get knocked out by anybody and i think that's why jake paul took the fight because
00:11:46.940 anthony joshua has a suspect jaw he's shown that and jake's mentality i have no doubt is
00:11:54.060 I just gotta catch him
00:11:55.520 One lucky bunch
00:11:57.500 Listen, I've spoken to Jake enough times
00:12:00.060 To know that's how Jake thinks
00:12:01.780 You know that's your brother, you know I'm not lying
00:12:04.160 If Jake, if he looks at you
00:12:06.400 And he feels like
00:12:07.980 If I just catch you
00:12:09.580 That's all it takes
00:12:10.920 Then he doesn't have a fear
00:12:12.960 He has a respect, but he has no fear
00:12:15.120 And I think that's why he got in the ring
00:12:17.840 With somebody as big
00:12:19.700 And as experienced as Anthony Joshua
00:12:21.820 Because Anthony Joshua
00:12:23.580 can knock anybody out
00:12:25.580 but if you clip him right
00:12:27.260 anybody can get him. We've seen
00:12:29.780 him fall. It was
00:12:31.540 high risk, high reward.
00:12:34.140 Jake and I
00:12:35.500 we like to live in that space. If it's
00:12:37.700 not a non-zero chance
00:12:39.060 you don't have to go for it.
00:12:42.060 And Jake's mentality is like
00:12:43.660 yo, what do I have to lose? I'm going to get
00:12:45.580 paid major dollars. What is it?
00:12:47.400 90, 91 million dollars? I mean he was
00:12:49.660 like this, yo, I get in there
00:12:51.320 I got a chance if I catch him
00:12:53.300 If I don't catch him, hell, I lost to a former heavyweight champion.
00:12:57.840 Who's going to really hold that against me?
00:12:59.620 And it was good thinking on his part.
00:13:01.600 I'm thinking from the standpoint of winning, all he had to do was go in against somebody that was a bit smaller.
00:13:09.060 Because that's the problem Deontay Wilder made with Tyson Fury.
00:13:13.940 And I was fearful for a long time it was going to ruin his career.
00:13:19.060 Tyson Fury is the superior boxer, that's true.
00:13:21.540 But nobody's a superior puncher to Deontay Wilder
00:13:25.160 This brother got a nuclear right
00:13:26.700 He'll put anybody to sleep
00:13:27.920 Here's the problem
00:13:29.220 You're going up against a cat 38 to 40 pounds heavier
00:13:32.880 Even when he misses
00:13:34.540 He's leaning on you
00:13:36.040 He's putting his body weight on you
00:13:37.740 He's taking your legs from you
00:13:39.540 And he told Deontay Wilder
00:13:41.640 Before the trilogy, the third fight
00:13:43.860 That's exactly what I'm going to do to you
00:13:45.720 And he did it
00:13:46.980 And Deontay called him not once but twice in that fourth round
00:13:50.320 I thought he was ready to go in the third.
00:13:52.000 He survived.
00:13:53.240 Comes out in the fourth round, clips him twice, gets him.
00:13:56.840 But Tyson recovers, and he's using his weight, and he puts it.
00:14:00.160 That's why when you're fighting somebody bigger, you know what?
00:14:03.680 You've got to have the ability to clip them,
00:14:05.460 but you've also got to have the ability to move so they can't lean on you.
00:14:08.780 Because if they lean on you, they're going to snatch your legs from you,
00:14:10.840 and it's going to take your power.
00:14:11.900 I mean, that was definitely part of our strategy with Floyd.
00:14:15.180 It was just simple math, man.
00:14:16.980 I'm 40 pounds heavier.
00:14:18.040 By the end of the sixth round, if I'm leaning on him every time he gets under me, like, yeah, he's strong.
00:14:23.200 Yeah, he's a freak athlete, but that takes a toll.
00:14:26.220 Exactly.
00:14:26.880 And it's why weight classes are important.
00:14:29.160 Ayo!
00:14:30.380 I'm sorry.
00:14:31.760 I used to do it in my vlogs.
00:14:33.080 It's the entrance for my theme song.
00:14:34.540 Ayo, I'm sorry.
00:14:35.560 I got two shirts up on WWE Shop Fanatics right now.
00:14:39.600 I hate Logan Paul.
00:14:40.800 Yes, I am the one behind it.
00:14:43.140 You're going to monetize the haters.
00:14:44.740 And still humble because, after all, I am your humble king.
00:14:47.120 and i'm gonna stay humble because i'm just that humble you can grab my shirts and all wwe merch
00:14:52.580 hats tees replica title belt superstar collections on wwe shop and fanatics get yours today back to
00:15:00.640 the show there's a spectacle fight coming up that i'm actually pretty interested in in tommy fury
00:15:06.660 versus eddie hall are you familiar with this dude so tommy fury tyson's little brother is fighting
00:15:12.640 eddie hall former world's strongest man wow who is who's man it probably 350 400 pounds
00:15:19.260 deadlifts a thousand plus pounds like like a this i don't think most people will ever meet
00:15:25.740 someone in their life who is who's as strong as this individual and so i am actually curious
00:15:30.840 what's going to happen in a fight like that tommy fury's got decent boxing skill yep minimal power
00:15:36.600 and and this guy is actually not bad at boxing Eddie Hall Eddie Hall's been been training boxing
00:15:43.700 Tommy Fury's got the ability to keep you at bay with his boxes yeah yeah true but I don't view him
00:15:51.300 as somebody that has the power to really really take you out and if you're going into the ring
00:15:58.080 against a cat that's powerful very strong and in shape that can stalk you all fight long I think
00:16:05.160 he could be in trouble when he fought your brother i thought the biggest mistake jake made jake was
00:16:09.380 looking to take him out yeah so what happens is if jake had come in and let's say for example he
00:16:14.260 was prepared to go to full distance like stamina wise where he could stalk them longer and he was
00:16:20.320 more active with his punches i think he would have beat tommy fury he had a bad day i know him he just
00:16:25.300 had a bad day it happens it's scary with boxing it's part of the reason why being a boxer is so
00:16:29.760 difficult it's like men you train for what three four five six months you have one day to hope that
00:16:35.040 You're feeling 100%.
00:16:36.320 It's hard.
00:16:37.760 Speaking of being taken out,
00:16:40.500 you had an encounter this morning
00:16:42.000 with someone supposedly with a lot of power
00:16:46.500 by the name of Dan Housen.
00:16:51.160 Steven, we're a little worried for you.
00:16:54.020 I'm worried that maybe this curse might be contagious.
00:16:57.500 I shook hands with him.
00:17:00.300 It's real.
00:17:01.140 The Dan Housen curse is real.
00:17:02.240 I've seen him do it to everyone in my organization except me.
00:17:07.260 I try to keep my distance from him.
00:17:08.440 But you got cursed by Dan Houser.
00:17:09.760 I ain't worried about him.
00:17:11.180 That don't scare me.
00:17:12.380 You know, I think what I'm worried about is that it's going to have an effect on my New York Knicks.
00:17:16.420 That's what I'm worried about.
00:17:17.200 Against the Atlanta Hawks.
00:17:17.620 That's what I'm saying.
00:17:18.540 That's what I'm worried about.
00:17:20.080 That's what I'm worried about. 0.98
00:17:21.500 You know, I'm not worried about me, but them damn Knicks don't look the same. 0.98
00:17:25.820 And I'm very upset about it. 0.98
00:17:27.180 So I'm hoping he didn't jinx them.
00:17:30.300 But I'm not worried about him jinxing me.
00:17:31.460 I mean, that next trip to New York is ugly for you if something happens, you know?
00:17:36.700 You know what?
00:17:37.020 Listen, if the New York Knicks lose to the Atlanta Hawks, they deserve whatever criticism they get.
00:17:42.760 I'm not going to feel sick.
00:17:43.560 We ain't won a title since 1973.
00:17:45.720 We ain't been to the finals since 1999.
00:17:48.320 We were in the conference finals last year.
00:17:50.540 We were in game seven of the conference semifinals the year before that.
00:17:54.040 We lose in the first round this year.
00:17:55.400 That's a huge step back, which means change is going to come because it needs to be made.
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00:19:17.500 But you can call me Toby.
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00:19:28.640 all think about, but just don't say it out loud.
00:19:30.640 I hate that job.
00:19:31.560 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away
00:19:34.240 and I'll never see you again.
00:19:36.780 Would you say a D-list actor?
00:19:40.240 D?
00:19:42.220 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.
00:19:44.060 No, no, no.
00:19:44.720 I mean like...
00:19:45.260 I can't even get on the C-list.
00:19:46.160 Like I'm not even average.
00:19:47.020 I'm not even passing.
00:19:47.980 I'm failing.
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00:20:00.120 Now, people sit up there and say,
00:20:01.420 you talk about sports, talk about sports.
00:20:03.000 You can be critical. 0.99
00:20:04.020 Well, damn it, here's the deal. 0.99
00:20:05.680 If you're competing, there are winners and there are losers. 0.99
00:20:08.460 You understand?
00:20:09.280 If you're not critical of the losers,
00:20:12.480 you ain't celebrating the winners.
00:20:14.840 So that's what comes with it.
00:20:16.340 and everybody's trying to win, right?
00:20:18.140 And you're taking the risk that if you lose,
00:20:20.260 you're going to be called out on it.
00:20:21.800 That's the risk you take.
00:20:22.900 That's what it goes with.
00:20:23.840 It ain't personal.
00:20:24.800 We ain't talking about what's going on in your bedroom.
00:20:26.560 We ain't talking about what's going on in your privacy,
00:20:28.140 your home, or anything like that.
00:20:29.400 We're talking about what you put on public display,
00:20:32.560 whether it's boxing, whether it's wrestling,
00:20:34.340 whether it's UFC, whether it's basketball, football,
00:20:38.040 whatever it is.
00:20:39.120 If you go out on public display,
00:20:41.240 you are open to scrutiny.
00:20:42.460 That's what comes with it.
00:20:43.640 And that's what separates the great ones
00:20:45.360 from people who are just wannabes.
00:20:47.760 Clearly, this Knicks team this year is incredible.
00:20:50.660 I would assume you would say one of the stronger teams
00:20:52.680 since the last championship.
00:20:53.900 Say what?
00:20:54.620 The New York Knicks team this year is a strong one, right?
00:20:58.080 They're not stronger.
00:20:59.320 That's my problem with them.
00:21:00.680 They don't look stronger.
00:21:01.920 They look softer.
00:21:03.560 That's my problem.
00:21:04.720 Okay, okay.
00:21:05.740 They're just as skilled, if not more so,
00:21:08.880 because they have more depth.
00:21:10.480 But the New York Knicks look softer this year
00:21:13.020 than they looked last year.
00:21:14.080 You're telling me Carl Anthony Towns is soft.
00:21:16.320 No, I'm telling you they look softer.
00:21:18.220 They've been playing softer.
00:21:19.840 I like it.
00:21:20.360 I would never call a professional athlete soft.
00:21:22.520 You understand what I'm saying?
00:21:23.340 You went through too much to get where you are.
00:21:25.700 So when we're critical, we're not critical of you in literally.
00:21:29.500 We're critical of you comparing you to your contemporaries.
00:21:32.840 You know what I'm saying?
00:21:33.200 If I sit up there and I say, Logan Paul did X, Y, and Z, and that's why he lost.
00:21:37.940 I'm not acting like I can beat him.
00:21:39.780 I'm saying your contemporaries, people you signed up to go up against,
00:21:44.080 are better than you.
00:21:45.500 It just so happens that he's better than them.
00:21:47.740 I think a lot of people don't realize that
00:21:50.600 when you're doing that critique.
00:21:51.920 I feel like a lot of people are like,
00:21:53.760 well, then you do it, right?
00:21:55.100 But I get it.
00:21:55.720 That's not what you're saying.
00:21:57.040 You're just, and by the way, that's your job.
00:22:00.220 Here's the deal.
00:22:01.840 Think about you growing up watching sports
00:22:04.260 and what inspired you to do.
00:22:05.820 It wasn't just watching folks perform.
00:22:08.660 It was watching the adulation.
00:22:10.400 It was watching the celebration.
00:22:12.240 It was listening to the critique.
00:22:14.080 and hearing the difference between good and great,
00:22:17.480 and aspiring to be something that most people can't be.
00:22:20.700 So all of us play a role in promoting the sport.
00:22:23.560 You know, the WWE and what it's doing.
00:22:26.020 It's in partnership with ESPN.
00:22:29.500 It's beautiful that I like Logan Paul.
00:22:31.540 It's beautiful that I root for him.
00:22:34.280 But it's also good for me to support him.
00:22:38.160 I'm a teammate.
00:22:39.560 I don't want you to fail.
00:22:40.780 I want you to succeed.
00:22:42.080 So if I'm getting on you for doing something,
00:22:44.080 It ain't because I'm celebrating you messing up.
00:22:46.640 It's because I'm mad at you messing up something that's good because I want you to succeed.
00:22:50.860 And I think that when people look at people like me, they might say I'm being critical about certain things.
00:22:57.360 But if you really, really hearing what I'm saying, I'm getting on you because I want you to be all you can be.
00:23:02.620 Not because I'm wishing for you to fail.
00:23:05.120 Look, I hear you, but you definitely have gotten yourself in some sticky situations.
00:23:09.500 Yeah.
00:23:10.040 I mean, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, LeBron James.
00:23:14.980 I actually have an exercise right now that I'd like to do if you don't mind.
00:23:17.660 Like push-ups?
00:23:18.260 Based on this topic.
00:23:19.440 Would you mind?
00:23:20.320 Can you even do push-ups?
00:23:21.220 I can do a couple.
00:23:21.940 How many do you want me to do?
00:23:23.640 No, what's your exercise?
00:23:25.900 If I give you a name, I'm just going to read off a list of names.
00:23:29.780 Could you just give me the first word that comes to mind?
00:23:31.860 First word that comes to my mind.
00:23:33.640 Okay.
00:23:34.640 Let's go Otani.
00:23:38.120 Otani?
00:23:39.620 Is that the word?
00:23:41.800 Shohei Ohtani.
00:23:43.800 This dude, superstar.
00:23:46.320 Superstar.
00:23:47.320 Oh, my God.
00:23:48.720 He's on another level, man.
00:23:50.740 Kevin Durant.
00:23:54.300 Sniper.
00:23:56.860 Let's go Kyrie Irving.
00:24:00.380 Magician.
00:24:02.520 Not flat earth?
00:24:04.060 Huh?
00:24:04.460 Flat earth.
00:24:04.800 Magician.
00:24:05.780 Magician.
00:24:06.580 Yeah, yeah.
00:24:06.920 With his ball handling skills.
00:24:08.300 Sensation.
00:24:08.960 Yeah.
00:24:09.060 Let's go Skip Bayless.
00:24:13.480 Brother.
00:24:16.600 Let's go Dallas Cowboys.
00:24:20.720 Black Cat.
00:24:23.100 Running around that franchise.
00:24:25.440 And I guess I'll just end on this one.
00:24:27.760 And these have been really kind answers.
00:24:29.680 It seems like we got ourselves a...
00:24:31.020 Who?
00:24:31.420 It seems like we have a really nice Stephen A. Smith today.
00:24:35.180 Just some would call him the GOAT, LeBron James.
00:24:38.720 LeBron James?
00:24:39.720 I don't call him the GOAT.
00:24:44.460 Savant.
00:24:45.920 Basketball Savant.
00:24:46.900 But not the best player of all time.
00:24:48.320 No, Michael Jordan.
00:24:49.480 There's nothing to discuss.
00:24:51.040 There's nothing to discuss.
00:24:52.000 What's the crowd feel about that one?
00:24:54.120 You feel that strongly about it?
00:24:54.620 Yes.
00:24:55.640 I know what I saw. 1.00
00:24:57.100 See, when people are booing, all you're showing is your age and your ignorance. 1.00
00:25:00.640 You don't know no better. 0.97
00:25:01.880 There's no way that you could watch Michael Jordan and LeBron James and think that Michael Jordan is not the GOAT.
00:25:11.420 All right, so they asked, so let me break it down for you.
00:25:18.040 Michael Jordan has 10 scoring titles.
00:25:23.080 Michael Jordan was a nine-time All-NBA defensive team member.
00:25:28.800 Michael Jordan won six titles.
00:25:31.880 Six NBA Finals MVPs, never once allowed a game to get to a game, a series, a championship series to get to a game seven.
00:25:40.460 Never once.
00:25:41.900 That was in his 13 years in Chicago.
00:25:44.680 We ain't counting the two years with the Wizards.
00:25:46.680 He was trying to become an owner and they needed him to come out of retirement to have an ownership state.
00:25:51.300 That's what they needed.
00:25:52.720 We're talking about his 13 years in Chicago.
00:25:54.580 That's what he's done.
00:25:55.740 By the way, played 82 games, seven or eight times.
00:25:59.660 All 82 games.
00:26:00.700 by the way it was significantly more physical back then you see somebody like you would have
00:26:06.400 got arrested you understand you can't touch him can't touch him today back then you could mug him
00:26:11.360 you understand they they created rules to stop him you understand watch the last dance when they
00:26:19.180 were talking about michael jordan the last dance and john sally said one of the biggest components
00:26:24.800 of the Jordan rules was
00:26:26.480 attack him before he gets
00:26:28.600 airborne. Because you know he 0.89
00:26:30.460 wasn't human, right? That's what
00:26:32.600 he said. Mike,
00:26:35.360 I got LeBron James on the
00:26:36.660 Mount Rushmore of basketball. One of the all-time
00:26:38.720 top three. One of the all-time greatest players.
00:26:40.940 But he's lost six
00:26:42.460 NBA Finals.
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00:28:07.540 Hey, what's up? I'm Tony Gonzalez.
00:28:09.020 And I'm October Gonzalez.
00:28:10.400 But you can call me Toby.
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00:28:22.460 But just don't say it out loud.
00:28:23.600 I hate that job.
00:28:24.440 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy and he's going to whisk you away and I'll never see you again.
00:28:29.680 Would you say a D-list actor?
00:28:33.140 D?
00:28:35.120 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.
00:28:36.960 No, no, no.
00:28:37.600 I mean like.
00:28:38.120 I can't even get on the C-list.
00:28:39.060 Like I'm not even average.
00:28:39.920 I'm not even passing.
00:28:40.880 I'm failing.
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00:28:53.100 But he's been in more. He's been in 10 of them.
00:28:56.660 What did you see? The soft-ass competition he had to go through in the Eastern Conference?
00:29:02.600 Are you kidding me? Michael Jordan ruined franchises.
00:29:07.340 The Cleveland Cavaliers didn't win a title because of Michael Jordan.
00:29:10.180 The New York Knicks didn't win a title because of Michael Jordan.
00:29:13.120 The Indiana Pacers didn't win a title because of Michael Jordan.
00:29:15.920 The Phoenix Suns didn't.
00:29:17.280 The Utah Jazz didn't.
00:29:19.020 The Seattle Supersonics didn't.
00:29:20.880 That means Carl Malone, John Stockton, Gary Payton, Sean Kemp, Kevin Johnson, Charles Barkley, Dan Marley, Reggie Miller, Rick Smith, Dale...
00:29:32.860 I mean, what are we talking about?
00:29:35.180 There's nothing to talk about here.
00:29:37.020 These are facts.
00:29:38.360 Okay? 0.92
00:29:38.840 So I get in front of y'all, and I appreciate everything you're saying and your feelings, but damn it, I ain't here to make you feel good. 0.62
00:29:47.720 I'm here to give you facts. 0.90
00:29:49.480 There is no question.
00:29:51.320 There is no question.
00:29:52.760 And oh, by the way, anybody, any basketball aficionado that you talk to and you ask them to compare the two, they will shut it down for you.
00:30:04.200 LeBron is universally respected.
00:30:06.540 All-time great.
00:30:07.600 Michael Jordan was feared feared there's a difference you didn't want to see that brother
00:30:15.140 at all well LeBron is like I gotta do this right I gotta do that right and maybe I could get him
00:30:20.700 but Michael Jordan was like damn I is let me ask you this Steven is any of what you just said
00:30:29.280 potentially subjective to a time when you were on the couch watching this magic happen 0.97
00:30:35.720 And I ask you and I ask you. I guess you can say it's subjective because it's coming from me and there are opinions that differ. I'm telling you what I saw. I don't believe that it's subjective. I believe. Watch. I mean, do you is there some issue? Do you need to see an ophthalmologist? Is something what's wrong? Because I know what I saw. You understand? And not only that, you know, you see LeBron who can defend.
00:31:03.160 go back and watch the Orlando
00:31:05.360 series when Jordan
00:31:07.240 he comes out of retirement
00:31:08.660 17 games left in the regular season in 95
00:31:11.540 they lose
00:31:13.180 in the second round to the Orlando Magic
00:31:15.040 Nick Anderson and those boys
00:31:16.320 they lift Horace Grant the former bull on his shoulders
00:31:19.340 like they did something special
00:31:21.000 because they went and got MJ
00:31:22.440 their season is over
00:31:25.220 in May
00:31:25.880 they're supposed to be taking vacation
00:31:28.540 Grover who trained
00:31:31.180 Michael Jordan, what's up?
00:31:33.740 Going to take a break when we train.
00:31:35.060 Jordan said, tomorrow.
00:31:36.700 He looked at the team, you got two weeks, and then get back in here.
00:31:40.600 You understand, this ain't happening again.
00:31:42.740 This is before the second three-peat.
00:31:44.920 And then they go back, and they go to the conference finals,
00:31:48.420 and it's Shaq, and it's Nick Anderson, and it's Penny Hardaway,
00:31:52.500 it's Horace Grant, Orlando got a crew.
00:31:55.180 They had just been swept in the finals by Houston,
00:31:57.200 but they still had a crew.
00:31:58.420 and these brothers could barely bring the ball past half court when Jordan and Pippen got up in
00:32:07.600 them like back pockets. You got up in their drawers. They couldn't do anything. That's what
00:32:13.400 I saw. We ain't talking about dunks. We ain't talking about overwhelming you in the fourth 0.70
00:32:17.900 quarter. We talking about opening a conference finals championship series, snatching your heart
00:32:24.760 out of your chest like you done stole something now you know being an athlete that you are 1.00
00:32:31.340 you know the difference between beating somebody and beating their ass and they got their ass kicked 0.99
00:32:38.820 you understand i'm talking about we saw cats not recovering for years we saw certain cats that 0.99
00:32:45.740 were never the same as basketball players because they were so traumatized by the ass whipping
00:32:51.980 that Michael Jordan instilled on him. 0.56
00:32:54.660 That's what I saw.
00:32:55.840 Are we sold?
00:32:57.020 Audience, are we sold on that?
00:32:58.800 That's what I saw.
00:32:59.820 We got a dude from Cleveland right here
00:33:02.340 whose entire mind just got changed.
00:33:04.720 Yeah, no, well, it's very compelling.
00:33:07.920 That's classic Stephen A. Smith.
00:33:09.540 It's very compelling.
00:33:10.520 LeBron's my GOAT.
00:33:11.280 I love LeBron.
00:33:12.500 You should.
00:33:13.120 I love LeBron.
00:33:13.680 Y'all should.
00:33:14.080 How old are you?
00:33:16.320 31.
00:33:17.180 31.
00:33:17.960 So what year is this?
00:33:20.860 2026.
00:33:21.540 So, in other words, you were born when Michael Jordan, you were one years old.
00:33:27.820 You turned one the year that Michael Jordan won the first of his second three-peat.
00:33:35.020 Yeah, yeah.
00:33:35.600 Oh, really?
00:33:36.880 You're so experienced.
00:33:38.080 I mean, the experience is overwhelming.
00:33:39.540 I don't remember watching. 0.99
00:33:41.020 You just said you don't know shit. 0.99
00:33:42.140 I don't remember watching the games. 0.99
00:33:43.900 I'm just saying, the point is, you can go back.
00:33:46.100 And let's be honest, when people go back and watch games, you're really watching highlights.
00:33:52.420 It's very few people that go back and watch the games from start to finish.
00:33:58.160 I was at them.
00:34:00.000 I was there.
00:34:01.680 I saw what I saw.
00:34:03.300 I saw cats coming into the arena and shaking their head.
00:34:06.980 I saw cats that smiled, you know what I'm saying?
00:34:09.880 They might have been smoking some weed and stuff, chilling out, having a good old time.
00:34:13.900 and then they have to come to the United Center
00:34:15.940 and all of a sudden, they all depressed.
00:34:18.500 They sitting up there, they worried.
00:34:20.540 They praying they don't get embarrassed
00:34:22.260 and all of this other stuff.
00:34:23.740 It's that kind of stuff that I'm talking about.
00:34:26.420 I'm talking about some cats that's looking at Michael Jordan 0.92
00:34:29.040 and talking junk. 0.89
00:34:30.960 Kevin Durant, or Kevin Garnett, rather. 0.95
00:34:32.880 He told that story when he was like,
00:34:35.220 he a rookie and he talking to this cat.
00:34:38.380 Yeah, go at Mike, go at MJ.
00:34:40.580 MJ just looked at him.
00:34:41.720 and all of a sudden the next thing you know he he started out when he had 10 points and
00:34:47.860 mj ain't do anything yet and then the next thing you know he talking junk and he look up
00:34:52.880 and he out of breath and mj got 40 and they still on 10 and they down 30 and he looking at his
00:35:00.700 teammates going like my bad i'm sorry stevie stevie you know you know what that's i'm talking
00:35:05.560 about you know what the kids would say nowadays they would say you're glazing
00:35:08.700 hey listen I'm not saying it
00:35:12.240 the only reason I haven't said it
00:35:14.400 is because I want to talk about some wrestling while we're here
00:35:16.500 I want to talk about some WWE
00:35:17.420 what I'm saying to you is I don't give a damn
00:35:20.560 what kids are saying 0.99
00:35:21.600 I'm giving you fat
00:35:23.720 I mean if you weren't there 0.99
00:35:26.600 I'm giving you an education
00:35:28.300 I'm telling you what happened
00:35:30.040 I was there
00:35:31.100 this wasn't me just clicking on remote
00:35:34.060 I was at the United Center
00:35:35.680 I was in Orlando
00:35:37.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
00:35:39.280 All that settle down, grow up.
00:35:41.280 I saw it.
00:35:41.660 You weren't here.
00:35:42.520 Yeah, you weren't here.
00:35:43.100 Don't tell me to grow up.
00:35:43.940 100%.
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00:37:41.700 hey what's up i'm tony gonzalez and i'm october gonzalez but you can call me toby we want you
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00:37:57.220 don't say out loud i hate that job you're probably just gonna meet for some rich guy and he's gonna
00:38:00.840 whisk you away and i'll never see you again and oh this is awkward would you say a d-less actor d
00:38:07.860 i don't even know there's this thing is d no no no i mean like i can't even get on the c list
00:38:13.420 like i'm not even average i'm not even passing i'm failing listen to no safe words with october
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00:38:27.220 uh steven you you you have a strong opinions you're you have conviction you know ball if i'm
00:38:34.860 trying to make some extra shekels and i want to buy the 2026 nba champion winner on polymarket
00:38:41.180 who am i buying because polymarket has the thunder at about 50 to win the nba championship let me
00:38:48.020 say this to you i i like the pick of the thunder i don't like the odds like when you talk about
00:38:55.340 at 50%.
00:38:56.160 I don't like that.
00:38:57.040 Yeah.
00:38:57.420 Wim Benyama beat them
00:38:58.540 four out of the five times
00:38:59.700 they faced them this year.
00:39:00.980 Okay.
00:39:02.120 And here's,
00:39:03.460 and it's like,
00:39:04.300 I'm giving you an example.
00:39:05.360 This is the kind of stuff
00:39:05.900 that I'm talking about.
00:39:06.700 Well, the kids wouldn't
00:39:07.300 call this glazing.
00:39:08.360 It's along the same principle,
00:39:09.540 but they want to call it glazing
00:39:10.580 when they want to call it glazing.
00:39:11.660 And then they want to ignore it
00:39:12.540 when they want to ignore it.
00:39:13.320 Perfect example here.
00:39:15.000 Wim Benyama beat them
00:39:15.800 four out of five times
00:39:16.660 they went against another.
00:39:18.040 You know what stood out
00:39:18.960 of my mind?
00:39:20.980 They beat Oklahoma,
00:39:22.260 I think it was like
00:39:22.760 the third time.
00:39:23.820 and somebody in the media asked Jalen Williams,
00:39:29.780 yo, what's up?
00:39:31.880 Y'all played him three times?
00:39:33.540 You lost to them all three times?
00:39:35.160 You seem like you can't beat them.
00:39:37.220 And I watched a dude, that 6'7", that averaged over 20,
00:39:42.540 that was on the all-defensive team last year,
00:39:45.520 that dropped a 40-piece in the finals,
00:39:49.340 sit at the podium and go like this.
00:39:51.520 well you know they got this dude over there that's like seven feet five because what he's
00:40:02.220 saying to you is we're looking at something we've never seen before we're looking at a seven foot
00:40:10.460 five version of kevin durant that's crazy a seven foot five version of where i watched victor
00:40:19.360 Wimbledon Yama bring the ball up the court dance on a cat cross them over and pulled up for three
00:40:27.960 I watched him spin and through a fade away fall away jump shot I watch him dance on a cat between
00:40:34.600 his leg juke him and through a euro step before left I'm he's seven five not human I interviewed
00:40:41.500 him the day the night he was drafted in New York City I was doing the NBA draft for ABC
00:40:47.680 It was one of the most embarrassing interviews I've ever done because I'm interviewing you with a mic and I could barely reach it.
00:40:57.940 I came up to hear to him.
00:41:00.300 You understand what I'm saying?
00:41:01.280 I mean, this is what we're talking about. 0.94
00:41:03.360 The dude is a freak of nature. 0.98
00:41:05.020 I'm 6'1", and this dude was 7'5", and I came up to damn near damn belt buckle. 0.98
00:41:12.600 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.98
00:41:14.380 It's a freak of nature.
00:41:15.520 Well, look, the Spurs are at 15%.
00:41:17.580 Do you like those odds?
00:41:18.900 I think the Spurs' odds should be better than 15% by Polymarket.
00:41:24.240 I think it should be better than 15%.
00:41:25.520 We're buying a 50K right now.
00:41:27.660 Okay.
00:41:28.300 Okay, screw it. 0.58
00:41:28.760 I think that's a good play. 0.54
00:41:30.020 I think they got about a 30% chance.
00:41:32.140 Wow.
00:41:32.460 All right.
00:41:32.840 I like that play.
00:41:33.860 I don't think anybody can stop Wemby.
00:41:36.040 I don't think there's anybody out there that can stop Wemby.
00:41:37.940 Yeah, but you're going to need the other dudes to step up.
00:41:40.980 Some depth.
00:41:42.000 Playoff time.
00:41:43.620 Playoff basketball slows down.
00:41:45.340 They turn you more into a half-court team.
00:41:49.080 There's a level of physicality that's allowed.
00:41:52.000 And the interesting part about the Spurs is going to be monitoring the referees
00:41:55.640 because from game to game it's going to be called differently.
00:41:58.280 They might let it go.
00:41:59.680 The little physicality go a little bit more in one game
00:42:02.960 and then call it tight another game.
00:42:05.380 You don't know.
00:42:07.020 And not only that, he's box office, so you'll want him on TV,
00:42:10.320 which means he's going to get some calls.
00:42:12.920 He's going to get some calls.
00:42:13.640 Do you have any collectibles?
00:42:15.340 No.
00:42:15.900 No, you don't collect anything?
00:42:17.260 No.
00:42:17.620 That surprises me.
00:42:18.720 How come?
00:42:19.800 I just don't.
00:42:20.600 I don't think about it.
00:42:21.680 It's like, here's the, honest to God, here's what I'm thinking.
00:42:26.720 I wasn't as good as any of y'all.
00:42:29.540 So my job is to go out there and be the very best that I could be at what I'm doing.
00:42:34.200 And to earn my stripes and don't be caught up in, you know, oh, like, for example, I'm pretty tight with Michael Jordan.
00:42:41.880 I've never asked for his autograph.
00:42:43.780 I've never asked anybody for their autograph in my life.
00:42:46.780 Really?
00:42:47.260 It's never happened.
00:42:48.220 I don't do that.
00:42:49.180 What about a photo?
00:42:50.140 A photo, yes, Muhammad Ali.
00:42:52.480 If I could have ever gotten a photo with him, I would have wanted one.
00:42:55.360 You know, of course, I had a photo with Magic Johnson, had a photo with a lot of people, Denzel Washington, stuff like that.
00:43:01.840 But the point is, I don't really think about that.
00:43:04.200 All I think about is showing that based on what I do, I'm elite at that, and I deserve to be in the room based on what I do.
00:43:12.320 I think you've established that.
00:43:14.200 Yeah.
00:43:14.480 I think you've established that, Stephen.
00:43:16.180 Can I hit you with a couple superlatives really quickly?
00:43:18.560 A couple of what?
00:43:19.120 We call them superlatives.
00:43:21.900 Yes.
00:43:23.100 Who's the best player in the NBA right now?
00:43:25.260 The best player in the NBA right now is Shea Gildress Alexander.
00:43:29.920 Who is it?
00:43:30.980 Shea Gildress Alexander.
00:43:32.180 Oh, yeah, of course.
00:43:32.680 Yeah, of course.
00:43:33.860 Shea Butter.
00:43:34.420 Okay.
00:43:34.960 Shea Butter.
00:43:36.340 Who's the most overrated player in the NBA right now?
00:43:40.680 I'm not going to say overrated.
00:43:42.320 I'm going to show respect.
00:43:43.600 I'm not going to do that to any of them.
00:43:45.320 But I will tell you, I will tell you this.
00:43:50.400 You look at a couple of cats, they could do more.
00:43:54.760 The Rudy Gobears of the world, the Carl Anthony Towns of the world,
00:43:58.760 people like that, some others, they're good.
00:44:01.580 They could just give you more than you're getting.
00:44:04.620 That don't mean they're overrated,
00:44:06.080 but they're underachieving based off of what they could do.
00:44:09.560 who is the most unstoppable force in the WWE right now,
00:44:17.180 if you had to choose just one?
00:44:21.560 I'm not going to say Logan.
00:44:23.580 I'm not going to say Logan.
00:44:26.920 Honestly speaking, I want to see,
00:44:30.920 especially watching this brother in his arms right now,
00:44:33.360 what he's doing.
00:44:33.700 I want to see this brother go for the heavyweight championship.
00:44:37.260 that's what i want to see
00:44:40.260 i got it i want i want to see it i i want to see it you know right now you might be a little bit
00:44:49.740 small for the brock lesners of the world or be firmers of the world stuff like that but
00:44:53.580 i want to see it you know i said i want you i i know you you open things up you the spark plug
00:44:59.920 you stir the cup but i want you i want to see you as the main course i want to see you close
00:45:06.040 the weekend hey hey hey hey hey brother that's what i want to be too hey me too look uh whether
00:45:12.460 i'm a closer or an opener i can guarantee that when i'm in that ring you are going to be watching
00:45:18.560 the most entertaining match of the night i am a show stopper i steal the show it is what i do
00:45:24.940 it is why i'm here yes brock is a big boy yes oba's a big boy but i'm a big personality i'm a
00:45:32.180 big wrestler i'm big everything it's not just what i can do inside the ring it's what i can do
00:45:36.300 outside the ring even when i'm doing stuff outside the ring i'm inside the ring i'm doing a podcast
00:45:41.900 right now with steven a smith it's the number one podcast in the world i just shot photos with the
00:45:47.140 gang i was on his show this morning and guess what i'm training later i can do it all steven
00:45:53.060 i don't know if i don't know if these guys that we mentioned can do the same thing or say the same
00:45:57.000 thing but i uh i am looking forward to becoming number one in the wwe one day and uh obviously
00:46:02.820 everyone loves me and they're very excited to see that happen yeah well i must say being the sports
00:46:10.460 critic that i am i'm very happy to hear that and i'm gonna tell you why because i think first of
00:46:16.880 all it wasn't given it's earned you've earned everything you've gotten i would never sit up
00:46:21.400 there and and and disrespect by implying otherwise but i will say this because of what you've already
00:46:27.800 earned you seem very happy and my point is you shouldn't be because there's more to get
00:46:34.820 there's more to get fantastic critique a fantastic a fantastic critique that's why we love you steven
00:46:42.120 you're always keeping it real always keeping it real now listen before we go i do want to ask you
00:46:46.800 about one thing the LeBron confrontation that was a that was a bit of a thing when LeBron
00:46:53.160 confronted you what was that like um it was very disrespectful I thought it was um I thought it
00:47:01.720 was really unfair to me because because I never I never did what he implied that I did and that
00:47:12.760 was my issue like I never watched his son in high school because I got a crib in LA his son was
00:47:20.740 right up the road I never went because I knew if I walked into a gym everybody would ask me to
00:47:26.580 critique his son and I didn't think that was fair to his son or to their family when he got hurt in
00:47:33.040 high in college with the heart ailment all we did was pray for him on national television hope he
00:47:38.400 got better he goes to the pros as a laker opening night father son door with the griffies junior
00:47:44.340 and senior in attendance i'm standing up court side and applauded but from that point forward
00:47:49.280 because you hadn't played college we expected him to be in the g league and developing
00:47:54.700 and one night we see him in the g league and the next night we see him on in the first quarter
00:48:00.420 defending tyrese maxey of the philadelphia 76ers i like what the hell is doing on it you can't do
00:48:04.900 that to that kid he's not ready for that so when I it wasn't about the kid I was saying you're a
00:48:12.020 basketball savant you're a basketball genius one of the greatest players to have ever played this
00:48:17.080 game you know what's out there you know what's waiting for him you can't put him in that position
00:48:21.760 and then ask us as reporters to ignore what we're seeing we got to cover it and if he gets out there
00:48:28.580 and gets abused which he did that night I said you can't put him in that position and so it was
00:48:34.260 clear that when he rolled up on me he thought that I went after his son to get at him because
00:48:40.940 I critique him I would never do that I would never do that to a kid I would never I know how I was
00:48:45.700 raised I wouldn't go after somebody's kid I would never do something like that and to paint that
00:48:50.740 narrative just because you don't like the fact that I don't view you as the goat really pissed
00:48:55.480 me off and so it happened the way it happened but ultimately you know I've answered that question
00:49:01.600 on many occasions i've moved on i was pretty pissed about it at the time but looking at my
00:49:07.920 life and what has happened for me if i'm being honest it's the lebron james and the michael
00:49:13.500 jordans and the kobe bryans of the world and others that have enabled me to be where i am
00:49:18.120 today because me covering them me covering you me covering everybody is where i've made my bones
00:49:24.500 so rather than be hateful i need to let that go i'm a grown-ass man and be thankful for the
00:49:31.240 career that i have what i've been able to achieve and the role that he has played in helping me
00:49:36.240 achieve it because if he didn't give me something to talk about i wouldn't have had anything to talk
00:49:40.400 about which means i wouldn't have had the career that i've had so i'm over all of that um i didn't
00:49:47.040 like that it happened um we haven't spoken i doubt if we'll ever speak if he wanted to speak to me i
00:49:52.980 would but i'll never try to speak to him unless he asked me to but i don't hate him i'm not rooting
00:49:58.440 against him and i hope that he stays long enough to announce that whatever year it's going to be
00:50:06.600 whether it's next year or the year after that it will be his last so we can spend the year
00:50:11.040 celebrating him for the greatness that he has brought to the game of basketball and the world
00:50:16.440 of sports all of these years that was beautiful that was really beautiful admirably introspective
00:50:21.780 and quite a roller coaster it was like it was like this when i was just listening just there
00:50:24.980 that was awesome
00:50:26.480 Stephen A. Smith
00:50:27.320 I like seeing you
00:50:28.400 do more things
00:50:29.300 I like seeing you
00:50:30.600 do more
00:50:31.440 cause you have
00:50:31.780 you have such a big
00:50:32.760 personality
00:50:33.360 and we like your opinions
00:50:34.420 and very likable
00:50:35.900 and I
00:50:36.400 what about you
00:50:36.980 in the WWE
00:50:37.620 huh
00:50:38.220 you in the WWE
00:50:39.500 well you know what
00:50:40.580 I think that
00:50:41.280 Paul Heyman
00:50:42.680 needs a competition
00:50:43.720 you know
00:50:44.780 I think Paul Heyman
00:50:45.880 needs a competition
00:50:46.380 hey
00:50:46.720 that's some heavy
00:50:48.200 competition right there
00:50:49.900 I think so
00:50:49.920 Paul Heyman
00:50:50.460 Paul Heyman is that dude
00:50:52.240 you know
00:50:53.680 he was on my show today
00:50:54.760 and he conceded, he confessed
00:50:56.980 that his status at number one
00:50:59.680 would be in jeopardy
00:51:00.720 if I arrived on the scene.
00:51:02.960 And I think he's right.
00:51:05.160 I'm not saying I would get him,
00:51:06.880 but I would come for him.
00:51:07.860 Yeah, you'd come for him.
00:51:08.660 I would come for him.
00:51:09.500 Did he just call a promo on our show?
00:51:11.340 I think so.
00:51:12.440 Dude, ladies and gentlemen,
00:51:13.420 Stephen A. Smith, man.
00:51:14.520 Thank you for joining us.
00:51:16.100 Absolutely incredible.
00:51:17.340 Whoa, live show here at WWE World.
00:51:20.440 WrestleMania this weekend.
00:51:22.160 Oh, man, we can't wait.
00:51:23.320 Enjoy the show.
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