Impaulsive with Logan Paul - THE 19 YEAR OLD CELEBRITY PHOTOGRAPHER FOR MILEY CYRUS, HALSEY, AND SHAWN MENDES - IMPAULSIVE EP. 71

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00:02:07.160 And they're all of the biggest people in the world.

00:02:08.620 I think you shoot every one that I DM.

00:02:11.360 Like my one monthly DM.

00:02:12.520 I'm pretty sure I've DMed all of these girls.

00:02:15.060 I'm not going to lie. I've definitely been told that before.

00:02:17.540 No!

00:02:18.980 Fuck!

00:02:20.380 and we got king broly blue on the set today check him out there he is look at this merle husky

00:02:34.280 look at him all merled out i feel like he needs a sibling man i'm not gonna lie maybe i'm in a

00:02:39.540 puppy phase as soon as you take this from him he just like he goes bonkers i'll be honest with you

00:02:43.820 my fear level is so high right now that he's gonna go tumbling off this desk he just he just doesn't

00:02:48.680 understand physics yet welcome back to impulsive the number one podcast in the world thank you

00:02:52.520 guys for listening watching viewing subscribing if you're not subscribed hit that subscribe

00:02:55.520 button as you know we welcome the new member of our family king broly blue the merle husky

00:03:01.660 he's a savage man and like i said i i think i've been looking at tibetan mastiffs have y'all seen

00:03:06.940 this dog have y'all seen tibetan mastiffs can someone fucking answer me why am i the only one

00:03:12.740 Were you asking if we've seen Tibetan Mastiffs yet?

00:03:15.840 No, seriously.

00:03:16.860 I'm sorry.

00:03:17.400 I'm highly distracted by this dog, dude.

00:03:19.980 I can't.

00:03:20.720 Look at this animal.

00:03:22.160 It's not a dog, bro.

00:03:23.540 That's a horse.

00:03:24.320 Imagine if Broly had one of these running around with him.

00:03:26.600 Oh, my God.

00:03:27.780 He's dead.

00:03:29.300 That's a lion.

00:03:30.520 That is not a freaking dog.

00:03:32.000 That's why I want him.

00:03:33.260 What the hell is that thing?

00:03:34.860 It looks like some sort of altered beast.

00:03:37.260 Comment below if you think Broly needs a Tibetan Mastiff sibling.

00:03:42.000 Oh, my God.

00:03:42.580 this would be great one of these just running around we can name him yours because he's a

00:03:46.400 horse dog yours the dog horse can you imagine the amount of drool that that thing produces bro

00:03:52.440 yeah man who cares that's a real life problem i'm in freaking fantasy yeah that's the thing

00:03:56.660 it's like i've warned logan multiple times he always says this podcast set say goodbye to it

00:04:03.060 asap and just get over it uh but he doesn't care he always says the same thing he says it's it's

00:04:09.020 not real the real world i say that's a real life problem yo because like life's not that hard bro

00:04:16.000 you know how you know how evan we joke like he's always like angry about stuff and he's like

00:04:19.620 complaining about every time i go you think you're gonna be all right i mean guess what the answer

00:04:24.460 is every time he goes yeah his situation he's a he's a he's a dwarf no but what's it i mean

00:04:31.700 but like when when he's complaining and like just i always like just ask yourself be like am i gonna

00:04:36.920 to be okay it's not about nine times out of ten the answer is gonna be yes like you're gonna be

00:04:41.300 fine what if you get asked that question will you have your head in between the jaws of a large

00:04:46.080 mastiff is our thing still gonna be all right like or how does that work exactly just out of

00:04:53.300 curiosity like for example if this dog like asked himself that question as he was clenched between

00:04:57.720 the teeth well they're gonna grow up together and imagine if they uh mated the female dogs

00:05:03.880 have periods that's something because is that really yeah yeah did you know that female dogs

00:05:09.160 have periods it seems like one of those things i didn't know yeah yeah i didn't i didn't dive

00:05:13.460 into that are your female dog tampons no that's a dude jeff is nodding his head yes there are

00:05:21.960 there female dog tampons wow there's diapers so your female dog wears a diaper because i would

00:05:29.360 love for them to mate but they both both have to be fertile um and i wonder what that feels like

00:05:34.280 for the dogs it's got to be rough i am so sorry i've been holding that in for a second that was

00:05:43.680 that was excellent are you still thinking about getting that don't fuck yourself that full arm

00:05:47.540 arm sleeve that tattoo you told me yeah i mean i thought about it for somewhere between 15 to 30

00:05:51.980 seconds really and then i didn't do it full sleeve is that what i'm not doing i'm not doing it i mean

00:05:57.800 it was a thought i might do like a leg sleeve what's that called a pant leave a leave a leave

00:06:03.340 you know because then you could just wear pants because i just get scared sometimes because i

00:06:07.400 love short sleeve shirts and what if the sleeve either a sucks or b or b you have to get a job

00:06:12.020 like you get fired from maverick that's what i'm saying it's always on the borderline i was gonna

00:06:16.620 get a big tattoo for a minute right here you've abandoned it i not abandoned i've just really

00:06:22.500 considered it dude like 24 year old me is looking out for 34 year old me and i just don't know if

00:06:28.520 that homie's gonna be like yo nice bird tattoo like i don't know okay so the rock though like

00:06:34.840 he's rocking it no pun intended like he's killing it he is some people can pull it off bro i just

00:06:40.740 don't know if i can he's like a warrior dude like he's just a mowing god yeah he can do anything do

00:06:45.360 you have to double the size of your biceps in order for it to make sense i don't know if that's

00:06:48.520 a good idea because then i'll start looking like thick thor which we did youtube video coming you

00:06:52.240 already saw it it's already live because this podcast is posted after to watch it again broly

00:06:56.760 can you calm down yeah bro you're freaking out right hey i want to bring on our guest

00:06:59.840 hey we got a good one today got a good one today i met him a while back his instagram bio says he

00:07:06.280 failed photography in high school he's got 350 000 followers and he's a photographer for all

00:07:11.060 of your favorite stars sean mendez miley cyrus halsey he's a young mogul showing us how to be

00:07:15.840 successful in this business without being in front of the camera sometimes he also invented the pogo

00:07:20.600 stick that's crazy ladies and gentlemen it's sam damashek oh my god look at that outfit

00:07:31.140 what's up everybody hey what up bro dude i can hear myself again have you done podcasts i i've

00:07:36.460 done a podcast but i with the fancy the fancy thing they didn't give you headphones no brother

00:07:40.160 that's not a podcast oh you did amanda's i did amanda's it was good it was great yeah and i did

00:07:47.200 I actually don't know how to pronounce it

00:07:49.180 this other podcast called Xoro

00:07:50.900 but we did that over the computer

00:07:52.060 and there was no visuals

00:07:53.200 this is like what scares me

00:07:54.600 oh really?

00:07:55.360 I'm in front of the camera dude

00:07:56.520 like think about it

00:07:57.300 I spend my life hiding

00:07:58.660 like right here

00:07:59.340 I know

00:07:59.720 I mean I wouldn't say hiding

00:08:01.440 I'd say creating art

00:08:02.660 because also you

00:08:03.340 you get in front of the camera sometimes

00:08:05.000 yeah sometimes I step out

00:08:06.340 I just did a shoot of myself

00:08:07.680 it was a big deal

00:08:08.800 big deal

00:08:09.200 wait wait you shot yourself?

00:08:10.640 no no no

00:08:11.100 who shot you?

00:08:11.720 I one day woke up

00:08:12.680 and I was like you know what

00:08:13.580 like I feel kind of fly today

00:08:14.960 I'm gonna have my homie Emma

00:08:16.380 who like I trust

00:08:17.160 as another photographer

00:08:18.020 but she's also a model

00:08:19.720 so like

00:08:20.280 I shoot her

00:08:21.360 she shoots me

00:08:22.100 kind of thing

00:08:22.600 and like

00:08:23.500 I don't know

00:08:24.000 it's a cool dynamic

00:08:24.720 gotcha

00:08:25.080 when do you wake up

00:08:26.080 not feeling fly

00:08:26.860 cause I'm not gonna lie

00:08:27.660 you walked in

00:08:28.200 and just the vibes

00:08:28.900 they hit me in the face

00:08:29.820 really

00:08:30.260 you got like a

00:08:31.000 a key around your neck

00:08:31.760 and a little dog tag

00:08:32.500 and you're just looking dope

00:08:33.420 dude the wife beater

00:08:34.200 you got some stuff going

00:08:35.120 it's a wife protector now

00:08:36.240 it's 2020

00:08:36.800 oh

00:08:37.380 it's actually 2019

00:08:38.680 close

00:08:39.140 but I feel you

00:08:40.400 wife protector

00:08:41.420 who named them wife beaters

00:08:43.540 yeah dude

00:08:43.940 it's just awful

00:08:44.660 you know what I mean

00:08:45.380 I'm going to start a campaign

00:08:48.060 Wife beaters are no longer wife beaters

00:08:49.740 They're wife protectors

00:08:50.800 I actually love that

00:08:52.040 Seriously

00:08:53.720 The dudes who beat their wife

00:08:56.380 I think they're very common

00:08:58.740 In low income, violent, aggressive situations

00:09:01.880 You can get a

00:09:02.920 20 pack of those for 74 cents

00:09:05.460 Yeah no it's wild

00:09:06.260 And any size fits too

00:09:08.280 A small, large, doesn't matter

00:09:09.860 By the way, am I looking over here

00:09:12.020 or am I looking at you?

00:09:12.700 Oh, so you see that exotic man, Andre?

00:09:15.800 That's your camera.

00:09:16.680 Yep.

00:09:17.020 Should I just...

00:09:17.920 All right.

00:09:18.240 I mean, you could look at me if you want.

00:09:19.360 I don't know.

00:09:19.900 Sam, we're chill here.

00:09:20.560 You can look up...

00:09:21.200 You can look anywhere.

00:09:22.020 I just do anything.

00:09:23.320 It could be anything, you know?

00:09:24.480 You could do whatever you want, bro.

00:09:25.760 So, guys, Sam and I met...

00:09:28.280 We met three years ago?

00:09:31.320 Wow.

00:09:31.920 It's been a minute, dog.

00:09:33.040 Yeah.

00:09:33.380 You were at a club.

00:09:34.000 How old are you now?

00:09:34.940 I'm 19.

00:09:36.160 Oh, my God.

00:09:37.020 Damn.

00:09:37.720 Wait, what?

00:09:38.220 I'm sorry.

00:09:38.500 I turned 20 in two weeks.

00:09:40.220 you weren't at a club yeah no no i wasn't at the mom i wasn't maybe oh no maybe it was three

00:09:47.580 years from now when you met him yeah it was actually it was in the future 2022 wife protector

00:09:52.620 yeah yeah so so we we met somewhere you i think you were 17 at the time dude yeah no 17 sounds

00:09:59.340 about right and i was like hey young kid why aren't you doing like young kid things being in

00:10:03.600 school and stuff yeah and i just couldn't be doing that oh you're 19 i didn't even know that

00:10:08.760 yeah oh my god 20 next month i don't want to turn 20 i like you know i mean look your your career

00:10:14.280 started pretty young i feel like the wow factor from being younger you know like i don't know

00:10:19.580 it's cool like i'm not gonna lie i like attention and it's nice when i like can say i'm 19 and

00:10:23.880 people are like oh shit like i totally thought you were older like how much would it suck if i'm

00:10:27.760 like yeah i'm 23 and they're like yeah yeah you look 23 you look 23 yeah no i the sentence you

00:10:34.540 just said i've said many times when i was 19 i was like i'm not looking forward to being 20

00:10:38.260 I liked being out here

00:10:39.380 and being like

00:10:39.800 you know I'm 19

00:10:40.480 and like these 26 year olds

00:10:41.600 were like

00:10:41.920 whoa

00:10:42.660 you're still young

00:10:43.840 no exactly

00:10:44.760 exactly

00:10:45.240 but I feel like

00:10:46.020 it's almost good

00:10:47.000 because now

00:10:47.620 now I have to push myself

00:10:49.040 so that when I'm

00:10:49.780 you know 21, 22

00:10:50.800 it's like

00:10:51.320 holy fuck you're 22

00:10:52.780 like

00:10:53.200 it can never be like

00:10:54.400 yeah

00:10:54.760 22 is still

00:10:57.440 still young

00:10:58.580 I think when you hit 23

00:10:59.560 that's when you're fucked

00:11:00.500 that's when it's just

00:11:01.280 you're over the hill

00:11:02.120 so far I can attest

00:11:03.680 this shit sucks

00:11:04.680 I don't know man

00:11:05.560 how old are you?

00:11:06.280 24

00:11:06.660 34

00:11:08.080 Holy shit.

00:11:08.600 I'm old as shit.

00:11:10.440 I'm old as shit, bro.

00:11:12.220 But let me tell you, I will tell you,

00:11:14.160 the only thing that is better than having someone say,

00:11:17.220 wow, you're younger than I, or, wow, I thought you were older,

00:11:20.800 is when someone says, wow, I thought you were younger.

00:11:22.680 Yeah, dude, I wouldn't.

00:11:23.520 That's the best thing, because I get that every day.

00:11:25.800 Like, wait, you're not 24, you're 34?

00:11:28.100 What the fuck?

00:11:28.680 I would have given you 25.

00:11:30.360 That's what I get at all the time, bro.

00:11:31.820 Wait until he puts on a snapback, dog.

00:11:33.160 He's 19 looking.

00:11:34.380 This dude ages like wine.

00:11:35.960 Yeah, bro, fine wine, bro.

00:11:37.020 You look easily a decade younger.

00:11:38.560 And I've been through the fucking ringer, dude,

00:11:40.260 so I don't know how that happens.

00:11:40.860 Yeah, Mike should be dead times 10.

00:11:42.420 Yeah.

00:11:42.940 Hey, so y'all, here's your Instagram.

00:11:45.100 Can we cut to the TV here?

00:11:46.540 I'm just going to do a quick scroll.

00:11:48.660 Looks good up there.

00:11:49.460 Brother, he looks great everywhere.

00:11:51.360 No matter where you're viewing this,

00:11:53.360 the things you shoot are absolutely amazing.

00:11:56.780 The models, the actors, the musicians,

00:11:59.740 and they're all of the biggest people in the world.

00:12:01.520 I think you shoot every one that I DM.

00:12:04.240 Like my one monthly, I'm pretty sure I've DMed all,

00:12:06.840 All of these girls

00:12:07.960 I'm not gonna lie

00:12:08.920 I've definitely been told that before

00:12:10.340 No

00:12:10.720 Oh

00:12:11.100 Fuck

00:12:12.360 Spell the T

00:12:13.960 Which one

00:12:14.660 Which one

00:12:15.060 Or two

00:12:15.840 Or three

00:12:16.360 Who's in the DMs

00:12:17.440 Who's in the DMs

00:12:18.700 Who's in the DMs

00:12:19.700 What'd they say

00:12:20.260 Cause my DMs

00:12:21.260 I just feel like every time

00:12:22.780 Like every time

00:12:24.100 I don't know how to explain it

00:12:25.400 But like every time I become friends

00:12:26.580 With like a new guy

00:12:27.420 Or like

00:12:27.920 Someone like yourself

00:12:29.160 It's always

00:12:29.740 Kind of becomes this thing of like

00:12:31.220 Shit man

00:12:32.180 Like your Instagram's like a

00:12:33.360 Fucking moving Tinder page

00:12:35.060 Like I've DM'd everyone on your page

00:12:36.600 you're like oh i just look at your page to see who's hot in la i don't know that's what i should

00:12:40.640 do from now on but i my dm game has slowed down it's just like it my dm game is weak dude yeah

00:12:46.540 like i'm sure did they say it was weak my dm game i mean they didn't mention you specifically

00:12:52.220 oh you're just saying i mean they didn't i mean it's kind of it's more of like i'll have people

00:12:56.640 like you be like oh i've totally dm'd like it's never like oh like hey that guy logan you're

00:13:01.680 friends would he dm me oh fuck it's yeah have you ever have you ever come across somebody that you

00:13:05.880 you know taking photos of and they're like oh yeah logan dm me or like i don't know why that

00:13:10.420 would happen that makes me nervous it feels like it feels it would have to be real i don't like

00:13:14.180 real i mean you know i feel like we just share a lot of mutual girlfriends i don't they're your

00:13:19.220 girlfriends bro if i was just mine to be sick i was just with your ex-girlfriend on my flight oh

00:13:23.860 my god that's right oh dude yeah literally which wait first time yeah no no no uh jessica oh you

00:13:29.120 came here from the airport yeah i just i literally just i uber dude talk about fucking timing i get

00:13:34.200 off the plane and get the uber and i show up here at what like two minutes to call time perfect

00:13:38.380 perfect insane money i actually i i lost track of the days i mean i don't know if this happens to

00:13:42.920 you but not to sound like a douche i've never worked a nine to five jobs like wednesday thursday

00:13:46.900 like 2 p.m 3 p.m like i just you just go i just lose track of time and i totally thought today

00:13:52.700 was the first and i thought i was showing up to your podcast tomorrow and um i get i think you

00:13:58.040 you texted me and said send me like some of your favorite photos for today and i'm like walking to

00:14:01.940 the like to the car to go to the airport i'm like oh fuck and then i see that i see that i land at

00:14:07.900 130 and i'm like all right this could work this could work no way we land we do our thing and i'm

00:14:11.700 here we made it on time i thought you like planned that i was like this is some master coordination

00:14:15.740 no it just literally just worked out that perfectly man but yeah so i came straight from

00:14:19.760 the airport and without any planning your ex-girlfriend sits next to me on the plane

00:14:24.520 that's weird as and it's like i didn't take like southwest like we flew jet suite which is like a

00:14:29.120 random yeah it's a random you know jet company no one even knows from vegas okay coming from

00:14:34.020 vegas coming from there for billboard there for billboard yeah crazy time wait so okay how did

00:14:39.700 you do you sit down and you're like hi my name's sam i am a photographer how did i know i i know

00:14:45.420 i know your ex oh yeah so i'm friends with her that's why it was okay that's why it was even

00:14:50.160 weirder as i was like yo he's like i'm actually the reason you broke up because i left you for

00:14:55.000 me i was like i don't know how else to say it i was like yo what are the odds and then i'm sitting

00:14:58.400 there i'm like oh do i say i'm like hey so i know this is kind of weird but um i'm like totally on

00:15:03.080 the way to your ex-boyfriend's place oh man and like i don't see her very often i don't see you

00:15:08.800 too often we're all busy people but she she's she had nothing but good things to say oh wow i would

00:15:13.660 hope so great i'm a very sweet guy i could be a douche but sometimes i'm a sweet guy hey how was

00:15:19.940 billboard by the way how was that you know okay so crazy going i feel like i feel like this needs

00:15:24.040 to be said yeah billboard billboard's dope and i have the opportunity to like meet so many people

00:15:28.720 that at one point were just so unreachable to me if that makes sense like brendan uri panic at the

00:15:33.820 disco his trailer was in front of mine and i don't know if anyone here likes panic at the disco but

00:15:37.780 that was like totally my angsty teen shit like you know like whenever i was pissed off or like

00:15:42.900 fuck school i'd just be like blaring panic at the disco and then he's just there like chilling like

00:15:47.600 and it's just weird for that perspective shift where you know like a few years ago like i was

00:15:52.680 that high school kid that i i always was pretty confident that i'd manifest like getting that

00:15:57.200 place where i'd be in the same room as like a lot of people that i idolized at one point yeah but

00:16:01.520 now that it's happening it's just very weird and it's it's also crazy to just see how normal it is

00:16:05.880 like you know like taylor swift walks by like he's chilling and it's just it's normal like they're

00:16:10.180 all humans they're doing their shit they're going to work just like we're going to work and i think

00:16:14.600 that's cool because it's kind of like i don't know it's grounded me a lot and i've also seen

00:16:19.500 how grounded a lot of those people are and although like there's a handful of different

00:16:23.180 celebs and stuff that have a big head most of them are really really dope like Halsey and Sean

00:16:28.560 for example they're two of the coolest people I've ever worked with um so that's cool in one

00:16:33.300 regard but at the other like in the other regard shooting a music or shooting a award show like

00:16:38.860 half the time I'm kind of just sitting there you know like I laid like we I laid out under her

00:16:43.700 trailer and like got a tan and was just like hanging out for hours like oh okay like you're

00:16:47.720 rehearsing i'll shoot this yeah like oh like you're performing now like i'll shoot this it's

00:16:51.400 very like five minutes of like super intense like boom boom boom boom go go go like so much

00:16:57.420 shit going on and then you're just chill gotcha and then like and then you're chill and it looked

00:17:01.580 like i i was standing in the background of her interview on the carpet and i looked like a total

00:17:05.460 dumbass wait why i because i was just sitting there just biting my lip like oh what am i doing

00:17:09.920 are you chewing your lips yeah no to my lips she halsey deleted her whole instagram what was that

00:17:15.340 yesterday. Did she get hacked or something? Nah, I think

00:17:17.360 she's going to... Nah, you know. You're a liar.

00:17:19.840 I came home.

00:17:21.420 And I think you and your girlfriend were like,

00:17:23.260 you see Halsey got hacked? And then

00:17:25.380 I looked and it looked

00:17:27.260 intentional. It's like a graphic thing, yeah.

00:17:28.980 I don't think it's a hack.

00:17:31.220 She's announcing something. She was talking.

00:17:33.020 Oh!

00:17:35.280 Sam and Sam probably made that.

00:17:37.260 Webster, did you make this? I didn't make it.

00:17:39.840 Webster Hall? It's going to be pretty cool.

00:17:42.480 Okay, so you were

00:17:43.080 shooting Halsey at the Billboard Awards.

00:17:44.980 yeah that's tight bro what's it like shooting some of the biggest superstars on the planet

00:17:48.900 and you're 19 years old like your your bio says you failed photography class like technically

00:17:53.120 according to society you shouldn't be good at this shit i know right but hey actually i think

00:17:57.240 i think this is a perfect chance to like parlay onto another another thought of mine i did that

00:18:02.780 because one of the things that i believe in i mean i would say the most is that i look school

00:18:08.660 school works for certain directions and certain routes and i'm not gonna knock college i'm not

00:18:12.920 going to like, like one of my best friends, he's going to UCLA. I'm extremely proud of him. Like

00:18:16.260 it's a great route for some people, but I don't think that it should be the end all be all. And

00:18:20.900 I'm sure that's been said by you. I'm sure it's been said by a million people, but when it comes

00:18:24.320 to art, I don't think school's necessary at all. In fact, I'm against education. As far as art is

00:18:30.520 concerned, I could, you're, you're a smart dude. You could sit down for the next week and you could

00:18:35.200 learn probably as much as I know, tech, let's call it the next few weeks and know as much as

00:18:40.440 you technically about the way a camera works how to navigate photoshop like that's not what you

00:18:46.140 know that's not what it is and yeah sure they teach art theory they teach a lot of things but

00:18:49.000 i think when it comes to an art whether it be music photography any form of release that's

00:18:54.720 something that's here you know what i mean like just like i could go and take guitar lessons for

00:19:00.080 the next 10 years it doesn't mean i'm gonna be a fucking rock star yeah it's just like some people

00:19:04.480 have it. Some people don't. And I think like, like whether I went and got an education for

00:19:10.520 photography or I took my route where like, I literally, I was just self-taught and kind of

00:19:13.880 just like, I, I just, I don't know. Like it's hard to articulate. No, it's not. You're doing

00:19:19.340 a great job. You did a fabulous job. I'm actually sitting here. Like, I love how wise you are.

00:19:23.740 I took, I took one photography class and I just kept butting heads with the teacher. She told me

00:19:28.300 to do things that I just didn't like. I didn't agree with the assignments. I were like, I just

00:19:32.180 couldn't see it. And then so I would go off and edit the things that were important to me. And

00:19:36.180 she'd like walk up behind me and be like, why are you editing your photos from Coachella? Like

00:19:39.540 they're all shit anyways. I'd be like, I didn't ask for your fucking opinion. And then I'd get

00:19:42.940 booted out of the class. So that's like, yeah, that's, I had an attitude and she, I had a little

00:19:47.420 bit of an ego because to be honest, like I was, I was paying all my fucking bills and like quite

00:19:52.440 possibly making her salary in photography. And I have this woman telling me how to be a successful

00:19:57.440 photographer and i'm just like i don't i don't see how this works out or how this lines up and then

00:20:02.360 one of my clients i was working for pax at the time i was 16 and he was like i was like hey man

00:20:07.160 um you know should i should i pursue an education of photography should i be going to art school

00:20:12.540 because dude i'm going to be real with you unless you're going to the top of the top art school in

00:20:17.720 the entire country chances are you're going to have way more field experience than any of your

00:20:22.960 professors like you're 16 right now and you're working at a corporate level yeah so that kind

00:20:28.080 of stuck and you know it's completely right like i've built i've built a pretty large career at 19

00:20:33.720 and i just i think that photography can't be taught i think that most art can't be taught

00:20:38.900 but especially photography you can't teach an eye you just can't you know what i mean like i just i

00:20:43.800 see the world differently just like i mean i look at certain things you do like your unmatchable

00:20:49.000 energy and your ability to act and put on like put on a show and almost anything you can fucking do

00:20:53.620 and like sure maybe i could train and like i could i could kind of get somewhere but it's just

00:20:58.880 everyone has something in them and it's kind of just a matter of who finds that and then who like

00:21:04.120 just balls to the wall pursues that yeah i figured out i could take photos and was like

00:21:08.580 fuck i have a vision and like i need that this is my voice yeah like this is where i speak yeah

00:21:13.580 it's that it's the if factor there's there's no there's just no class that fucking teaches

00:21:17.700 there's nothing absolutely do you think school kills creativity i i think it i think it could

00:21:24.820 kill creativity if someone's not confident enough in their own vision um i'm not gonna name names

00:21:30.420 but like a wise a really wise person uh he's one of my friend's dads and he's like an incredibly

00:21:36.440 smart guy uh he's a really really big businessman owns a billion dollar business and i remember

00:21:41.340 sitting at his table and he's here with me um one of my friends who's like roughly my age and his

00:21:46.600 younger daughters and he was like he made such a crazy point and i thought it was nuts that he's

00:21:51.160 saying it in front of his kids who are currently attending school he goes yeah isn't it wild how

00:21:55.380 like you ask a kid in fourth grade what their dreams are i want to be an astronaut i'm going

00:21:59.660 to be an nba player and it's just goals as big as the fucking world right go fast forward what

00:22:06.520 three four years um eighth grade you know ask a kid like what they want to be like oh like i'm

00:22:13.580 gonna take over the family business or um well i i'm hoping to get promoted to like manage your

00:22:18.460 position at my nine to five there's nothing wrong with that i'm just saying that there's got to be

00:22:23.120 a correlation between school and just kind of like cutting out kids passions i personally think the

00:22:30.800 education system should be more geared towards someone's interest and talent than you know the

00:22:36.160 same thing for everybody every person's different you know like some kids are really good at

00:22:39.800 focusing some kids are great with art and suck at math like some kids you know suck with art but

00:22:45.400 are super super school smart like why i just don't see why the school system should be geared in one

00:22:51.700 direction for all people how does that make any fucking sense the most special thing we have

00:22:56.200 is that there's there's only one of each of us in the world you know what i mean we're all unique

00:23:01.020 in our own standards so how is there one system for everybody to abide by i think school should

00:23:05.340 be curated towards oh like that fourth grader that wants to be a vet well then how about spending the

00:23:09.700 next four years in a goddamn algebra class you spend the next four years learning about what

00:23:14.240 your interest is and it's catered towards you know what you want to be when you grow up you

00:23:18.200 know so that's that's where i see school killing you could call it creativity or killing what

00:23:23.140 someone's direction is yeah that makes sense it's getting hot no no that was that was fucking fire

00:23:27.360 that was amazing bro extreme truth you're speaking uh spencer's language right now he's doing he's

00:23:33.900 doing an education education documentary really um amazing what's the school isn't it here that

00:23:39.140 that caters to uh these students interests there's schools everywhere it's it's really like where did

00:23:46.440 you go to school first off i went to laguna beach high school uh i grew up in laguna and i'm super

00:23:51.240 blessed to have been able to go to like such a good public school and i but it's still a public

00:23:55.360 school yeah no it's a public school wasn't a private school it's just and when did you drop

00:23:58.540 out by the way uh first semester senior year did i tell you that or did you just know that no i i

00:24:03.120 didn't know that oh you just figured well no i i knew you dropped that bro it's like when you said

00:24:08.080 you were 16 and you were working for PacSun

00:24:10.220 you referred to PacSun as your client

00:24:11.940 how does a 16

00:24:14.120 year old get a

00:24:15.940 job working for PacSun

00:24:17.520 yeah I honestly like it's

00:24:20.160 crazy shit I have law of attraction tattooed

00:24:22.080 on my arm and

00:24:22.980 I mean I just feel like you can just

00:24:25.900 manifest shit you know what I mean

00:24:27.320 like a thought will pop into my head and then

00:24:30.300 it could literally be that same

00:24:32.200 day it's almost like it's just there like it's

00:24:34.060 been presented how many guests are we gonna have

00:24:36.040 on the show who's saying the same fucking

00:24:38.060 thing in a row until like people start realizing like this is that's life that's real i kid you

00:24:44.480 the fuck not i was in class and i'm like looking at this other photographer's page and i'm going

00:24:50.880 damn like she's shooting for paxon like at the time i was younger like paxon's my favorite store

00:24:55.420 yeah like my obey and like all my famous famous tees yeah you know what i mean and i was like

00:25:00.780 shit like that's gonna be my dream like by the end of senior year like i'm gonna shoot for paxon

00:25:04.780 like that'll happen one day and that was like start of the day i i remember i get out of class

00:25:10.940 and i'm walking and i'm like i opened my dms and at the time i have under 10 000 followers which

00:25:15.620 like still decent during the time but and i'm looking at it i'm looking at my dms and i see

00:25:20.460 this this uh stem from a photographer jtu photo always remember this okay and he's their in-house

00:25:25.400 photographer at paxton and he just goes hey man would you be interested in working for us

00:25:28.920 and i like i saw it i'm like oh no like this it's not real like it's got to be fake yeah

00:25:34.760 just spam dm it was totally fucking real i met with them like a week later and then ended up

00:25:38.920 working for them on a weekly basis for the next year but even not to just like i i still find it

00:25:44.260 so amazing that at 16 you had 10 000 followers as a photographer bro that was so hard to do for me

00:25:51.460 as a personality being in front of the camera like did you there was some sort of jump that

00:25:56.940 you had did you shoot someone famous was it just like years of hard work i mean i i think at the

00:26:02.080 time it was just it was a very different game and like i i put it this way when i first started out

00:26:06.980 like now everybody has visco cam facetune all this shit on their phone like everyone's editing

00:26:11.940 their photos everyone everyone has an aesthetic feed you you pull up anyone's instagram and

00:26:16.780 they're trying to be arts like that's the that's the standard if you're not doing that then it's

00:26:20.840 like yo what the fuck's wrong with you you know at the time like i was considered like whoa like

00:26:26.220 that kid posts like artsy shit man like he's got it he's got an instagram feed like wow

00:26:31.900 dude like so if anything i was i guess i sort of saw you know what was coming before it came

00:26:39.500 and i maximized on that so i started to get a following and at the time too for photographers

00:26:43.580 feature accounts there's these accounts that have like three 400k and they would just post

00:26:48.640 photographers work to give them exposure which now thinking back like holy shit that's so cool

00:26:53.720 like there are accounts literally just to help photographers grow and show art you didn't use

00:26:57.820 those accounts and so yeah i would tag like 40 hashtags from different feature accounts okay

00:27:02.260 and i get featured and gain 300 here that's how i did there on vine i reached out to the big like

00:27:07.160 vine accounts that were like the best vines and i had them show mine yeah exactly okay okay because

00:27:12.060 there wasn't like an influencer market yet no no no not at all bryant bryant i don't even know yeah

00:27:17.280 i don't even know bryant had capitalized on that yet and bryant was like i'm gonna attribute bryant

00:27:21.160 right now as the first guy to see you know vine stars and youtubers as like you know people that

00:27:27.740 could be photography clients and people could grow a page so i think he was probably just starting

00:27:31.900 that but for the most part no one had thought like oh i'm gonna go shoot vine stars and grow

00:27:35.480 on instagram you know what i mean like that just wasn't really a thing yet i feel like both you

00:27:38.740 guys benefited tremendously from being i don't know your story as much and you can speak on it

00:27:43.720 but being in la like being near the scene i think that's a lot of yeah like at some point you know

00:27:49.620 your dreams resonate with a certain area in the world and i feel like you gotta make that jump

00:27:54.740 or if you're blessed to grow up out here like how much do you think that influenced your um i

00:27:58.960 actually it influenced my career a ton and i could tell you the turning point like when that started

00:28:04.580 if it's of interest but yeah please um i don't know you know alex hawkers yeah yeah yep great

00:28:09.400 guy uh and i didn't i didn't mention him in my last podcast and i felt really bad about that so

00:28:14.040 this is sort of my tribute to him but also we love you great coachella parties man yeah

00:28:18.840 keep him up and hawkers is back um he's like mad at me right now too so this is good he's probably

00:28:23.460 You're going to be mad at me too

00:28:24.200 when I tell him right now

00:28:25.240 that I peed on the side of your house.

00:28:26.480 Oh, I did.

00:28:26.960 I peed like six times

00:28:28.040 on the side of that fucking house.

00:28:28.760 I don't know what to tell you.

00:28:29.580 But anyways, anyways.

00:28:30.480 All right, so I DM Hawkers Co.

00:28:32.620 when I was 16.

00:28:34.140 16, big year, big year.

00:28:35.440 Big year.

00:28:35.820 Start driving, you know.

00:28:37.800 Fucking driving.

00:28:39.160 Just driving.

00:28:39.740 The world is your oyster.

00:28:41.980 As a 16-year-old,

00:28:43.320 with a 2013 Ford Escape,

00:28:45.140 I was fucking unstoppable.

00:28:46.140 You're winning.

00:28:46.820 Yeah.

00:28:47.380 Is this my water?

00:28:48.660 Yeah, it is, man.

00:28:49.420 Yeah, there you go.

00:28:49.860 It is now.

00:28:50.440 It can be anything I want.

00:28:51.300 No, it can be.

00:28:52.700 Laws of attraction.

00:28:53.460 I thought of a water and it just appeared

00:28:55.840 I'm getting sidetracked

00:28:57.000 So on a 6 team, I DM Hawkers Co

00:28:59.940 For those of you who don't know, Hawkers Co is a sunglass company

00:29:02.100 Based in Europe

00:29:02.720 I DM them and go, hey, can you guys send me some glasses?

00:29:05.660 I want some glasses, I want to be cool

00:29:07.080 I wasn't sick at the time

00:29:08.980 I was covered in acne, had braces

00:29:10.880 Was not a dope kid, so I was like, I'm going to get some fucking sick shades

00:29:14.040 It's going to be tight

00:29:14.600 Turn it around

00:29:16.940 He responds on

00:29:19.140 Alex responds on their page and goes

00:29:21.360 Hey, I will send you glasses

00:29:22.820 but to be honest like we'd like to do something more extensive with you i was like all right and

00:29:28.160 i thought there was some low budget brand like i had no idea who they were turns out they're a

00:29:31.820 multi-million dollar business i'm like okay cool so we're dming we're dming and then i didn't really

00:29:36.560 take it seriously and then i'm getting ready for school one day this i will literally always

00:29:40.880 remember this vividly and i get a dm from him and it's like right before i'm walking out the door

00:29:44.800 and he goes hey man i'm shooting a commercial up in la today we have some pretty big models

00:29:48.100 um you know pay you a few thousand dollars to come up here and shoot and i was like

00:29:53.000 huh like what like that's first of all that was the most amount of money i'd ever been paid for

00:29:57.800 sure for one days of work yeah at the time and also i was like i get to skip school and get a

00:30:02.520 fucking hollywood like mom and so i like come into my all right like and this was this is this

00:30:08.920 was pivotal do you remember the first time you missed school for like your job or did you never

00:30:14.020 get to the school part oh wait yeah i did yeah i did i was on the today show and i had i yeah i

00:30:19.920 missed it no no no but no but like i'm not trying to no that's badass it's bad rocket bro flex yeah

00:30:27.760 flex whip that dick out there we go big dick mcdougar over here um anyways i i feel like for

00:30:36.920 anybody in this industry as a young person the first time that your parents are like yeah this

00:30:42.900 is important enough for you to miss school you're kind of like winning yeah yep boom so i was like

00:30:47.560 mom make some money get to go to hollywood it's it's big for my career like can i please skip

00:30:53.600 school let me call your pops oh called my dad and um little background my dad is a super super

00:31:00.000 intelligent man he played like him and everybody on his side of the family went to like ivy league

00:31:04.300 schools wow they went to like the nicest prep schools in the country like i'm talking genius

00:31:08.480 quality people yeah and they all played semi-professional sports i never played a sport

00:31:13.160 uh i skated and surfed and i struggled in school because of my lack of focus i'm like the opposite

00:31:19.140 of what my father was and that was like a hard thing for us so especially when i'm like dad can

00:31:24.380 i skip school to go pursue art he's never been an artistic guy so it's just we'd always butt heads

00:31:29.100 and he was like all right like yeah fine you can skip school oh that's cool yeah i skip i go up i

00:31:33.700 have no idea what i'm expecting and i get up to la and it's just like these fucking supermodels

00:31:38.580 on set and like this whole crew and i'm like shooting all these people jumping in the pool

00:31:42.420 and just everyone's looking at me like who the fuck is this kid like his mom just drove him up

00:31:47.560 here i didn't even have a license yet i'm just like and everyone and everyone was looking at

00:31:52.540 alex like dude did you just hire a 16 year old kid to come work on set like what the fuck are

00:31:57.700 be doing and alex was the first person to believe in me wow and the first person to see like yo

00:32:04.180 fuck you this kid's gonna be something everyone questioned him and then the photos are great

00:32:09.120 and then like a fast forward a few months and he has me come up again and he's like i shoot this

00:32:14.360 job and once again my mom's still driving me up like i just maybe just got my car but she still

00:32:18.380 comes with me to la yeah and um he goes hey kimberly it's my mom's name and she she likes

00:32:23.780 alex a big teddy bear and uh alex is like kimberly can your son stay with me hollywood

00:32:29.020 for a few weeks like we're gonna film we're gonna film a short film about hollywood we're gonna do

00:32:32.900 a bunch of shoots he'll make good money i'll take good care of him can you can your kid stay with

00:32:36.680 me and my mom's looking at me and alex like so you want my kid to stay with you at like this

00:32:41.700 notorious after party house in hollywood and i go no mom please trust me i'd never drank at the time

00:32:47.980 hey was that the house the glass with the glass it was like four houses before that oh wow okay

00:32:53.180 yeah um it was a house right above katana and uh yeah right above katana on sunset okay and i was

00:33:00.460 like mom say no say no come on do it do it say no she's like all right you can go so i somehow

00:33:06.680 convinced my parents um i i was a trustworthy kid though like dude i had a girlfriend i never drank

00:33:12.520 like i was like missed i was a stand-up guy um and so i stay with alex and that was just the

00:33:18.680 fucking beginning of it i got thrown into hollywood scene when i was like 16 wow so like i every day

00:33:25.320 would shoot like he'd have a bunch of models come i'd shoot them all day and then he'd have call

00:33:28.980 times at like 10 o'clock at night we'd have a group of models come they're doing their makeup

00:33:32.380 at 10 o'clock and we'd be like he'd be whipping us around his fucking rolls royce and we're

00:33:36.060 shooting a mahon in sunset just doing like the craziest shit and i'm like meeting all these

00:33:40.480 people and everyone i kind of had like the cuteness factor of like oh my god like this

00:33:46.100 16 year old kid like taking photos wow yeah you know so like i was i was using it to my advantage

00:33:50.920 but then it gets better it's like after those shoots were done everyone's going to warwick

00:33:54.660 they're going to the club i'm too young to do that so i would just take a nap on the couch

00:33:58.340 and i was like i promise you we'll have an after party here later we'll wake you up when we're

00:34:02.100 back alex is running shit at the time everybody's at his parties so every night i'd have some random

00:34:07.800 person random girl come up hey sam alex sent us alex no way and i'd be like waking up on this

00:34:13.180 couch this is a dream come true i'd be waking up at this couch in these fucking mansions just

00:34:17.040 walking around the after party i go alex like i'm substantially younger than everyone here like what

00:34:21.580 do i and he's like yo tell everyone that your dad owns the house so they were fucking respect you i

00:34:26.880 go all right so i'm gonna oh yeah like welcome to my welcome to my father's party i hope you're

00:34:30.700 enjoying yourself you guys want photos i'm like taking photos of everyone's everyone's hype because

00:34:34.440 everyone wants pictures at parties and that was just like i just met the core like so young and

00:34:40.120 i i don't know i kind of like just kept going with those relationships and yes like being around

00:34:45.600 this scene in la has been a huge huge push i'm like a talker so i kind of just like took the

00:34:51.260 craziest tangent off that question it's funny you're the exact opposite of our last our last

00:34:55.740 guest like the polar opposite he just came here and he didn't say anything and we talked the whole

00:35:00.820 time so this is a great juxtaposition it's cool it's cool to see younger people you know talking

00:35:07.080 about these concepts talking about these things because i feel like that's what that's a wave

00:35:10.460 like we like you were saying we get so many guests that are talking about law of attraction you know

00:35:15.740 manifesting your goals your dreams like how many times that's a lot people on here till people

00:35:21.320 start actually doing this stuff i think your personality helps you and what you do though

00:35:25.740 because like you say you're a talker i think it's you're fun to listen to do you think do you think

00:35:29.900 who you are helps you stay tight and connected in in these circles like you're a homie to most

00:35:35.340 people i think that 50 of my job is um is like just knowing how to network and how to make people

00:35:42.360 like you yeah like there's realistically there's probably a bunch of other photographers in la

00:35:47.560 that are way iller than me that are honestly like really really talented kids but at the end of the

00:35:53.440 day if like if you're not authentic if you don't know how to speak to people how to like maneuver

00:35:57.500 your way around the industry without burning bridges keeping people happy like and just be

00:36:01.720 a fucking good person you know make everyone comfortable like that's the most important thing

00:36:06.060 like you can't work with you know the top models in the world if you can't make them feel comfortable

00:36:11.260 when they're at like their most vulnerable position like I was gonna ask you can't work

00:36:14.520 with celebrities if you can't gain their trust and you can't like it's just you gotta you gotta

00:36:19.100 be a good fucking human being there's there's definitely a level of trust that you that you

00:36:23.680 build with these models like bro when you do nude shoots like and excuse my ignorance here I know

00:36:28.740 nothing about this i'm not a model i've never shot nude models but like what what is this like

00:36:33.320 they just get naked and just run around are they covering themselves at all and then you shoot them

00:36:37.000 and then do you direct them do you tell them how to stand it's all kind of situational man but like

00:36:41.100 honestly it's like being nude and the human body i feel like has played into you know photography

00:36:47.040 for as long as people can remember look at helman newton like helman newton i don't know if you know

00:36:50.440 that is but you go to any wealthy person's house or like any really nice hotel they'll probably

00:36:54.820 have a helmet new book on the coffee table and all of his shit was nude um so it's it's been a

00:36:59.640 part of the industry for a while because the human body's beautiful it's a great thing yeah and i feel

00:37:02.960 like when you're a photographer for the right reasons because you're trying to glorify women

00:37:07.600 and appreciate everyone's shape and like that kind of thing then it it already like you know if your

00:37:13.720 work screams that you're you know you're shooting like you're obviously these photos they're intimate

00:37:18.720 like that kind of thing if you're doing it for the right purpose of just creating art and that

00:37:22.700 sort of thing that'll show through your work and then that builds comfortability in the girls and

00:37:26.060 like it's all kind of situational as to how someone will carry themselves but yeah like

00:37:29.480 you just act normal it's a part of your job like you're deep i'm desensitized it when i'm working

00:37:33.940 i'm working i'm just creating and like you direct and it's it's a cool it's a cool relationship and

00:37:38.960 it's cool that i have like the ability to do that i don't know i like it i feel like a photo to me

00:37:43.920 doesn't feel special unless it's something that no one else can have in a way yeah so like taking

00:37:49.060 photos of someone famous it's dope because that person lives a private life like they're

00:37:52.540 they're an icon and i like capturing those private moments that no one else could see no one gets to

00:37:57.120 have it it's intimate you know i'm saying yeah or like moments with these girls where they're

00:38:00.760 they're in a more vulnerable position or they're nude or like that kind of thing that's capturing

00:38:04.240 vulnerability yet like beauty at the same time i just think that's what's dope and like what can

00:38:08.860 make an image special is like capturing something that like is very personal to the person yeah

00:38:14.660 yeah do you ever get the urge to be where you are right now like when you're shooting like do you

00:38:20.640 ever get the urge to be on the opposite side of the camera be in the spotlight share a story

00:38:25.600 make a joke absolutely absolutely um i i'm totally an attention or like i i love to talk when i was

00:38:32.720 in school i love fucking public speaking that's why like when you hit me up and were like yo like

00:38:37.060 do this podcast i was like fuck yeah yeah i'm pleasantly surprised this is great you're great

00:38:42.480 yeah i i love this shit i did i most people don't know but like i did uh like 15 plays all

00:38:47.400 throughout school so i used to do like stage acting i did model united nations which is like

00:38:51.880 i'd go to a conference of like a hundred kids and i would debate world topics and like a suit

00:38:55.940 oh damn that was you i remembered those kids yeah no one no one knows that about me but like i've

00:39:00.460 always i've always loved doing that shit and yeah i love attention when i'm feeling fucking cocky

00:39:05.080 and confident i like being in front of the kid i do an eyeliner for this shit bro i'm wearing

00:39:08.620 an eyeliner let's go champ um but it's like this i mean this was a new thing for me and it actually

00:39:14.360 felt cool because i i've always felt like damn wouldn't a model be being a model be boring like

00:39:18.960 you don't get to dude it's you know when when you're a model and you have a vision like i had

00:39:23.280 a vision just like the photographer emma did and we created that together and i think that's like

00:39:27.980 what made that special now i'm like okay i totally get it like that gave me a way better understanding

00:39:32.760 of being on the other side of the camera got it yeah and and and kind of just to reiterate a

00:39:37.900 question are you like directing like when did you say yo hopping this girl's back in this photo

00:39:42.560 um it's it's all situational but like for example here i was just running around vip

00:39:47.620 and they were just happy as could fucking be and like running around on each other's backs i pulled

00:39:52.420 out my film camera and just took a ton of photos of them on each other's back i just see i like

00:39:56.700 instagram girls seem to have it down i said this in the last podcast but they're like the one pose

00:40:02.160 they always do i don't know if you like shoot this pose you know how girls like squat and put

00:40:06.320 one leg out like way far they put one leg out and just like extend it so it looks great in the

00:40:10.960 foreground yeah are you doing that often bro are you telling are you getting the instagram pose do

00:40:15.220 you say things like that no but like i i got i got my poses like i got a bag i pulled was this

00:40:19.300 one of them like are you like yo jerk off your ponytail not not quite but i was like yeah grab

00:40:24.220 the pony like let you know what's yo you told her yeah by the way i'm i'm friends with jordan

00:40:27.960 shout out jordan yeah jordan's lit she's awesome dude jordan we do we do love jordan uh but no

00:40:33.980 like the the photo of charlotte and banana like they were just running around like that and i feel

00:40:39.660 like that's kind of what can make um a photo sick sometimes it's like sometimes i'm creating a vision

00:40:44.980 and sometimes it's just already there and it's a matter of like how you capture it all right you

00:40:48.880 got a best photo a best it actually does i asked i asked you to send me uh some some of your favorite

00:40:54.400 photos and uh i want to i want it let's call it an instagram audit i want you to explain to me

00:40:59.880 what you like about them um and what makes them some of your favorites so I believe this was one

00:41:04.440 of them Miley Cyrus and Shawn Mendes yeah um this one to me I think is one of the most important

00:41:09.680 photos I've ever taken uh I feel like I I kind of hit this turning point sometime in the last two

00:41:16.420 years where I didn't want to be Instagram famous I wanted to be an icon and like what I mean by that

00:41:22.300 is for a while I was chasing having a million followers and like that fame factor and now for

00:41:26.940 me it's more of like i i want to be something that someone could read about in a textbook in

00:41:31.320 an art school one day or i want i want my photos to live forever or like you're on a plane and you

00:41:37.080 see a documentary about a photographer i want to be that photographer in the documentary 40 years

00:41:41.240 from now you know what i mean like literally like think about it like there's the like i said the

00:41:44.480 helmet newtons or picasso with painting like there there's artists that just go down in history and

00:41:50.340 i that's what i started chasing it's like i'm going to get to that place and with those artists

00:41:54.580 there's images that you will always think of or like like Andy Warhol like you think of you know

00:42:00.220 you could think of when you hear that name you think of certain pieces he's done for me I felt

00:42:03.980 like this was one of my first photos that was so iconic that 25 years from now this could be

00:42:09.820 textbook or like you know when you go to I don't know like a Mel's Diner and they have all the like

00:42:14.300 old photos of the Beatles like think about like iconic Abbey Road like Beatles walking across the

00:42:18.860 street like some photos are just they live a lifetime and I felt like this was one of the

00:42:24.020 first images i took you know considering i've always been in the spotlight for a while sean's

00:42:29.420 newer to the spotlight but it's just his wave of success is so unbelievable and the two of them

00:42:33.580 together and like just everything it's shot on film i was like fuck like this is my first

00:42:37.840 real real textbook image yeah and that's why it's so important to me how do you differentiate

00:42:43.300 your content based on uh getting a million followers or becoming an icon like can't you do

00:42:50.280 both yeah i think that two and two could go together but it's also getting harder nowadays

00:42:56.800 you know what i mean like i feel like the the markets become pretty oversaturated so believe

00:43:01.200 it or not like you don't get as many followers as you'd think from like shooting celebs or just

00:43:05.580 creating like really great art and that kind of thing it's not how it used to be um so i feel like

00:43:12.180 in a way you almost if you want to gain a lot of followers sometimes you got to sell out a little

00:43:16.300 bit more in order to do so i totally get that so i kind of was just like i don't want to shoot

00:43:20.000 shit i don't like like i'm just gonna shoot what i like and i lost followers for a year i was

00:43:23.780 shooting solely social media people and gaining a lot from that because that's just like the

00:43:27.520 forefront of the platform um cheat code and yeah cheat code exactly i kind of was like you know i

00:43:33.600 want to start working with people in the music industry and model strictly and i want to start

00:43:36.960 posting stuff that's like you know some of my shit's not as pg as it was it's like if you don't

00:43:42.200 have taste you're gonna see and be like oh why the fuck is that person doing why are they smoking a

00:43:46.500 cigarette yeah it's it's not it's not always super family friendly and i gained i i mean i lost like

00:43:52.400 a shitload of followers literally every day for like a year because of it did that hurt it hurt

00:43:57.380 a little bit it made me question myself but i just kept doing it and then i ended up gaining

00:44:00.740 those followers back and more and i also my business skyrocketed because it's just like

00:44:04.680 i moved in a much more serious direction it was just kind of did the whole like all right fuck

00:44:08.880 instagram i'm just gonna focus on the art and like what that means to me for a while we had this

00:44:13.460 conversation the other day instagram's uh considering removing likes from your photos

00:44:17.060 people people don't see it did you know that and if so do you have an opinion on it really yeah

00:44:21.940 number of likes because it affects it affects mental health it's like a huge mental health thing

00:44:27.300 um i mean that makes i i see i see the argument there for me

00:44:35.420 i don't know like that's that's that's a tough question because like there are times where i was

00:44:42.960 like shit man i would totally post this but it's gonna do awful yep so i don't post it and that's

00:44:47.900 so unhealthy as a creative it's so unhealthy you know what i mean like i i i'm curious like what

00:44:54.060 the biggest photographers in the world 30 years ago what their career would look like if they had

00:44:58.820 instagram influencing all of their decisions um so maybe maybe it'd be a good thing but at the

00:45:05.200 same time like you've already kind of started living that way i mean sort of but at the same

00:45:09.300 time i do like dude there's no like if someone tells you that they don't get like a little bit

00:45:14.120 of a rush off their photo just fucking going viral for sure they're full of shit yeah i like

00:45:19.760 dude i think that's the whole point of it i think there's a lot of things in the world that give you

00:45:23.300 that rush it's like and they're not always healthy it's like it's kind of a currency so you'll still

00:45:28.120 see the likes by the way in the back end just not available to the public correct yeah so it will

00:45:32.440 still go viral yes you're not in comparison with it you're just not comparing yourself to other

00:45:36.440 people because you can't tell you know that might be a good idea because then it's like at least i

00:45:40.740 do get feedback from my audience and um so how is that going to work with brands it's horrible

00:45:46.440 no the brands the brands could know the brands can see it too so like the brand just like brands

00:45:49.960 ask for your analytics they're gonna be like yeah okay so like you won't your your income won't be

00:45:54.820 jeopardized it's more of just strictly so that people aren't then i think that could be a really

00:45:58.740 cool thing yeah you know maybe people actually start to focus more on like you know what's what's

00:46:05.040 cool and what's authentic to them then like that's that's uh then yeah that's instagram's mo what

00:46:10.140 you just said it's it's so they're gonna focus on what this is real being discussed it's not it's

00:46:14.520 not it's being tested it was being discussed now it's now it's being fucking it's actually funny

00:46:19.160 to hear you say uh that one of your big goals now is to end up in a textbook being talked about you

00:46:25.280 know years from now after hearing you know you speak against textbooks and speak against school

00:46:30.800 it's interesting to hear that juxtaposition when i say when i say textbook i think i more of mean

00:46:35.860 like a look like an ipad you know like just something something like you'll have textbooks

00:46:40.640 like whether a textbook coffee textbook documentary coffee table museum whatever

00:46:45.680 museum of art like the smithsonian the smithsonian my skeleton bro that's fire

00:46:52.140 yeah logan should we get our skeletons next to each other no like here's a mummify y'all

00:46:58.260 oh that'd be dope why would i get cremated when i could get mummified bro let's get frozen with

00:47:03.280 fucking waltz oh i i'm definitely doing that i talked about it bro we're gonna pop out a year

00:47:07.380 in like 200 years and be like what's fucking yeah bro if paul says gonna make a comeback

00:47:12.340 gonna be on hoverboards and shit um but yeah no when i say textbook consider it a figure of speech

00:47:19.280 like you know what i mean like just like think about it you like you you redefined um social

00:47:25.020 media history in a way and social media is a huge part of history and bro like there's no doubt

00:47:29.200 that a long time from now like your your name changed a lot and kind of like changed what

00:47:35.580 youtubing and vlogging and now you know someone that came from that background doing a vlog like

00:47:40.100 you were the first of many things and like that that puts you down in history not a flash in the

00:47:44.540 pan not someone that's cool making their money for a few years but like so basically that's what

00:47:48.920 i'm saying it's like i want to do something important enough and create something important

00:47:52.940 enough that that lasts gotcha do you do you see oh audio's going on oh no do you see uh other

00:47:59.680 younger people in our generations that are maybe not viewing life from a long-term perspective

00:48:06.780 like how do you view the difference between how you view life like i want to live uh i want to be

00:48:13.080 in the record books i want to be you know known down the road verse i'm just in it for the here

00:48:18.300 and now the instant gratification like look at me now i'm getting all this attention i'm soaking up

00:48:21.980 what I can um yeah no I I'd say that part of the reason why I think like I get told oh like you're

00:48:29.420 an old soul or I'd like to say I'm more mature than the average 19 year old is um I think kind

00:48:34.840 of your ability to one self-reflect and look at your past and allow that to teach you and to you

00:48:40.880 know go okay these are my flaws like I'm fucking up and change that and then also your ability to

00:48:45.720 look at the future and do everything with attention you know I think that's that's what

00:48:49.760 can create a lot of success in someone is doing everything with a purpose every move you make

00:48:53.920 knowing that you want to do it while you're doing it and so i'm yeah i'm trying to like actively

00:48:59.520 you know whether it's working on my health so that i live a better life years down the road

00:49:04.680 or thinking like how my decision is going to play out then ironically i have like 42 tattoos and

00:49:09.280 like that's not me thinking about later i heard that conversation earlier but uh it's yeah like

00:49:15.320 i i do want to think long term bro like i i think my biggest fear is fucking peaking at 22 you know

00:49:21.980 what i mean like do you imagine if you just go out the gate super hard like you run your first

00:49:26.600 lap in a sprint and then the rest of the mile you're just dragging your heels bro that happens

00:49:31.380 is happening currently to 95 of every creator you see so it's you can't you can't get comfortable

00:49:38.560 it's like that's and i like that's also part of your success it's like imagine imagine if you

00:49:44.260 just did vine you're like all right cool yeah you made your check you got famous you did mine

00:49:48.880 but then you did youtube then you did vlogging now you got a podcast i just want this shit too

00:49:53.040 bad bro you got a brand also i will say for anyone who's like uh not where they think they should be

00:49:59.320 or who maybe hit a peak and even i'm sort of speaking for me like i we definitely i definitely

00:50:03.180 peaked and then now it's sort of like a stagnant valley type situation but like i always look at

00:50:07.760 this social media shit is all about waves it's all about troughs troughs and peaks dude like

00:50:11.940 it's literally you're just going like this and i'm sure whether it's followers likes relevancy

00:50:17.220 for sure social zeitgeist like like take shane dawson for example yo rewind three years ago

00:50:23.980 shane dawson was washed up he was like that youtuber who was the on the og wave and like

00:50:29.020 he was still making content he had a podcast it was like kind of and then now he's like everything

00:50:33.860 once again he's everything so it's it's there's there's definitely there's definitely a uh

00:50:41.060 a pattern with this stuff.

00:50:43.360 And I would say as long as you like personally,

00:50:45.880 like I want this shit too bad.

00:50:47.080 I will be here forever.

00:50:48.540 It may not be on,

00:50:49.720 it may not always be a social thing.

00:50:53.680 Like you're,

00:50:54.140 you're looking for active ways to now transfer that,

00:50:56.620 that victory from social over to business and over to other traditional

00:51:01.480 medias.

00:51:02.400 Longevity.

00:51:02.940 Yeah,

00:51:03.020 exactly.

00:51:03.520 Cause the longevity is at the end of the day.

00:51:05.240 Listen,

00:51:05.580 the longevity is in business.

00:51:06.800 The longevity is not usually in talent.

00:51:08.880 People get,

00:51:09.500 they start looking older.

00:51:10.360 The audience changes

00:51:12.460 Things happen

00:51:13.340 19, 20, 21 year old stars

00:51:16.100 To Logan's point

00:51:16.940 Get washed up in a few years

00:51:19.040 A lot of them

00:51:20.080 You gotta cross over for sure

00:51:21.960 To something, whether it's business

00:51:23.380 Whether it's making cheeseburgers

00:51:26.000 Are you gonna ever make cheeseburgers in Malibu

00:51:28.200 Or are you shooting photography for the rest of your life

00:51:30.200 Who knows, you know what I think would be sick though

00:51:31.860 Is I wanna open a coffee shop one day

00:51:33.600 What about cupcakes

00:51:35.040 I'm a big coffee shop guy

00:51:37.480 I fuck with coffee shops

00:51:39.420 What would you call it

00:51:40.920 You got a name

00:51:41.380 You probably can't say it

00:51:42.480 No I don't know

00:51:43.180 What I'd name it

00:51:43.940 But just like

00:51:45.240 The vibe

00:51:46.780 Yeah you know

00:51:47.780 Or like maybe

00:51:48.540 If you mixed like

00:51:49.240 A little bit of

00:51:49.760 Soho house

00:51:50.260 With a coffee shop

00:51:50.980 Where it was like

00:51:51.460 You had to be a member

00:51:52.780 High end

00:51:53.320 It was open late

00:51:54.220 But coffee

00:51:54.680 You go there to work

00:51:55.400 What about photos

00:51:56.980 Mixed with coffee

00:51:57.820 Like you order a coffee

00:51:59.520 And they like

00:51:59.980 Take your picture

00:52:00.680 It could be

00:52:01.160 It could be a cafe

00:52:02.120 In the front

00:52:02.620 And then there's like

00:52:03.340 Four different studios

00:52:04.440 In the back

00:52:05.100 Or some shit

00:52:05.700 That's fire

00:52:06.560 That's fire

00:52:07.400 Alright look

00:52:08.720 this is another one another one of your favorites that you sent me uh this is madison beer um with

00:52:16.560 a doberman yeah um so i probably i mean i probably should have just sent the cover of um because this

00:52:23.800 is like a bts photo but you want to if you want to hit the good old google really quick and just

00:52:27.800 type in madison beer hurts like hail cover that's the final photo oh wait a second oh no wait never

00:52:34.320 go to images

00:52:36.760 a good old google machine

00:52:40.020 yeah

00:52:40.620 that photo is just fucking wild

00:52:43.520 this photo is fire

00:52:44.300 honestly to sum it up

00:52:46.860 I was just like holy shit

00:52:48.520 this is crazy

00:52:49.260 I like it for a few

00:52:52.260 dude I don't know

00:52:54.340 it doesn't look real first of all

00:52:56.200 it looks like one of those

00:52:57.660 an old horror movie

00:53:00.700 poster

00:53:01.700 one two

00:53:03.600 This was shot in a burned down house

00:53:06.180 In the middle of nowhere

00:53:07.280 It's on a mattress in the middle of a burned down house

00:53:09.520 No one even knows that

00:53:10.380 How'd you light it?

00:53:12.840 I think the light was coming from above

00:53:14.300 I thought you meant the house, my bad

00:53:15.660 There was a dog wrangler

00:53:19.000 Like an animal trainer on set

00:53:20.300 And was it a set? Was it just for the cover of the record?

00:53:23.220 It was literally a burned down house in a neighborhood

00:53:24.820 But was she shooting anything else?

00:53:27.540 I think she

00:53:28.600 No, she did some video stuff there too

00:53:30.900 But we did the cover

00:53:32.280 i remember it was just like it was tough man the lighting was tough um i was on a really tight

00:53:36.960 schedule the dog it's not easy working with a dog especially scary ass motherfucker like that

00:53:43.180 and um i was i was nervous i get nervous sometimes i doubt myself and also like i shot

00:53:49.240 i shot it on digital and i remember i just kept like like every time um i had like a split second

00:53:55.860 i'd pull out my little film camera and take a film one i'm always just like the product of film

00:54:00.020 better but when you're you know like she there's a lot on the line that day and it's like she can't

00:54:04.340 risk that the film gets fucked and the lighting was kind of shady so i was like you know she kind

00:54:09.060 of kept saying like sam you gotta shoot digital like we gotta nail this sent her the whole dropbox

00:54:13.520 link like hundreds of digital photos sent her a few film photos she goes that's one of my favorite

00:54:17.460 photos i've ever taken we took wow and i just felt like that was that made me so happy that's

00:54:21.360 awesome that that's how that's what it so that's one of the film selects right yeah that's a film

00:54:24.980 picture that's completely unedited it's untouched you ever butt heads with the with the talent the

00:54:28.860 subject yeah but i i yes yeah i feel like i feel like when i was doubting myself a little bit more

00:54:36.300 that kind of like that energy will show through and people doubt you a little bit more big oh

00:54:40.260 you sure that'll look cool are you sure you want to do that to be honest recently i've felt the

00:54:44.180 most confident in myself as a man and my art that i have in my entire life and now it's like i i'm

00:54:49.640 not doubting my potential as a creator at fucking all and i feel like no one like everyone's just

00:54:54.480 like all right all right cool so so i mean if you if you want someone to do something and they're

00:54:58.360 not cool with it will you back down or no i it's it's more of a comfort zone thing like if someone's

00:55:04.660 not comfortable with doing something then i'm like no like you don't have to do it i'm never

00:55:08.500 gonna make someone do something that it's uncomfortable they're uncomfortable with

00:55:11.100 unless it's them being insecure and thinking won't look good and me knowing like yo you're

00:55:15.780 gonna look amazing and we're gonna do this you know what i'm saying but if it's something where

00:55:19.700 they're like oh like not like hey sit on the edge of that building like i'm not comfortable i'm like

00:55:23.900 okay i'm not gonna fucking make you do that but um yeah oh like literally like uncomfortable

00:55:28.680 physically and uncomfortable not even necessarily in danger but just like yeah like some or like

00:55:34.820 hey can you just pose like oh like i don't know like this makes me feel uncomfortable because

00:55:38.460 it'll show yeah it'll show in the photo exactly exactly um i i had a little story here but i

00:55:44.540 can't find that i like it's the hollywood sign no uh yeah the hollywood sign get your merch

00:55:49.800 uh yeah um i know the only reason i ask is i did a photo shoot once this was when i first came to

00:55:54.600 hollywood i was your age i think i was 20 and i got um invited to be in paper magazine really

00:56:00.080 as shirtless a shirtless photograph photograph oh shit and uh this was right around the time i was

00:56:04.820 doing the splits and stuff holy fuck and so like i did this and then like we took this picture as

00:56:09.720 well damn you look good bro thanks bro i i uh i lost 20 pounds like three days for this it was

00:56:14.620 on a juice cleanse i passed out after you're looking fucking yeah it was unhealthy it was

00:56:18.540 horrible i hated everything um but the photographers they tricked me bro they're

00:56:24.680 like yo after the after the shoot they're like yo why don't you take your shirt off again and pants

00:56:30.160 off and like let's get some for our page and like i i was by myself i was like uh okay sure because

00:56:38.240 they had like you know slight social media a slight social media presence and like ended up

00:56:43.020 taking like this one bro and like what am i what how did i get weaseled into this bro like i was

00:56:48.260 hungry like that man he's like one he was like bro he was the friend of the photographer who

00:56:52.800 was like an influencer where was manager jeff where were you jeff wait where oh jeff's over

00:56:59.880 there in the magazine yeah yeah they tricked me

00:57:16.300 well because they told they said they said they said they said yo we got the ones for the for the

00:57:25.660 For paper

00:57:26.260 Like by the way

00:57:27.620 The fucking dope ones

00:57:28.680 We got it

00:57:29.380 Yo but what the fuck is this

00:57:30.940 That's

00:57:31.700 That's tight

00:57:32.520 That's tight

00:57:33.140 This?

00:57:33.600 No no no

00:57:34.040 That's tight

00:57:35.260 What about cracking an egg

00:57:36.160 Doing the splits

00:57:36.760 Yeah you're packing some heat

00:57:37.980 These are the ones

00:57:38.540 I wanted to phone

00:57:39.180 And they're like

00:57:39.720 Don't worry

00:57:40.260 The ones that we took

00:57:41.140 For our Instagrams

00:57:41.920 They won't go anywhere

00:57:42.960 Those motherfuckers

00:57:44.600 Sent him the paper

00:57:45.280 And paper published them

00:57:46.540 Like this was in the magazine

00:57:48.120 Bro

00:57:48.600 You and that random man

00:57:50.320 Skateboarding

00:57:50.900 Yeah but like

00:57:51.560 See it's like

00:57:52.040 I just don't get it

00:57:53.000 Like why would

00:57:54.040 What the hell's a point

00:57:54.840 Why would

00:57:55.420 Hey, that's Mickey

00:57:59.480 Hey, that's Mickey from Valley Girl, baby

00:58:01.500 Hey

00:58:02.700 Is that you?

00:58:04.700 Yeah, I was in a movie that took place in the 80s

00:58:07.220 Mickey Bowen, baby

00:58:08.660 Fuck with me

00:58:09.700 Dude, whoa, that's crazy

00:58:11.680 You kind of look like Owen Wilson there

00:58:13.300 I get that a lot

00:58:14.460 I get him and Woody Harrelson

00:58:16.340 I think there's one more here

00:58:19.720 This one, man, I think I know why this is one of your favorites

00:58:22.600 But I want to hear your

00:58:25.220 I mean your perspective dude like I just I don't know there's some shoots where like the lighting

00:58:31.460 the girls like everything is just so remarkably fucking gorgeous that I'm just like overwhelmed

00:58:37.260 doing it and then I get the film back and I'm like yeah you know what I mean are you ever like

00:58:43.240 just taken aback by how beautiful your subjects are fuck yeah dude here I was literally over I

00:58:48.680 mean shout out Meredith shout out Cindy shout out Caitlin the three of them are so like drop dead

00:58:55.000 fucking gorgeous it's nuts and then we're just in this warehouse with like perfect light and i was

00:58:59.680 like yep this is it like this this is sometimes i just will take the photo and i'll be like

00:59:04.720 yo this looks fucking nuts and the girls will be like can i see it i'm like no you can't it's

00:59:09.040 it's film like i can't see it and they're like then what do you mean it looks nuts i'm like

00:59:12.080 like i like there's no way i could fuck this up like and this was one of those like if i

00:59:19.280 fucked this up, I should just quit now. Really?

00:59:21.480 Yeah.

00:59:23.020 Do you have a girlfriend? I did.

00:59:25.600 We broke up recently.

00:59:27.420 Oh, shit. No, it's okay. I'm

00:59:29.340 chilling. Feeling great. Is she chilling?

00:59:30.980 I mean, I would like to...

00:59:33.040 I hope she's good.

00:59:35.080 Good God. Can you shut the fuck up?

00:59:37.400 I'm sorry. She's a great

00:59:39.380 girl.

00:59:41.080 I don't think right now my life is fit

00:59:43.360 for a relationship anymore. Will it ever

00:59:45.400 be? Yo, you sound like you're

00:59:46.960 really driven by work you got off a plane and ubered here i don't i don't think i don't think

00:59:52.160 my life will ever be fit for a relationship that isn't serving me in the best way possible and i'm

00:59:57.680 not gonna say that was her but i just i feel like i don't know i feel like i'm very young and i got

01:00:02.500 a lot going on and i can't compromise my focus and my career and if i'm going to i should be so

01:00:08.140 goddamn head over heels in love that it's just nuts yeah and um i don't i don't know if that's

01:00:14.580 where we were at but got you like i said she ends up watching us she's a fucking fantastic woman i

01:00:19.820 think she does i think she does watch it's the number one podcast in the world after all yeah

01:00:23.540 and that's a that's a fact hey speaking of facts can we do a segment can we do a little segment

01:00:27.600 we have a segment on here what's it called it's called uh let's do a shot what you hit the wrong

01:00:31.960 button no i didn't say we'd do a shot it's a segment ah let's do a segment the segment is

01:00:39.360 called facts facts with my man spencer taylor spencer give us some facts all right we got

01:00:45.540 some legal drama police issue arrest warrant for migos rapper offset for damaging a fan's iphone

01:00:51.880 we've had an extensive we we've brought this up multiple times like what do you guys think about

01:00:56.560 this let's let me show you the video i don't know if you've seen this sam we got a little slow-mo

01:00:59.920 for all our viewers here uh the video's in slow-mo shout out offset hits a fan's phone

01:01:06.100 well boom breaks his phone and that what did you say felony yeah yeah this is that's almost

01:01:11.600 because it was almost a thousand it's like based on the price of the phone and so my thoughts on

01:01:17.160 this one yo was like other times i've seen people walk up and put their phone like directly in the

01:01:22.580 person's face like they'll jam it in their face be like yo let me get a shot if you come that close

01:01:27.040 to my face with something i might do the same shit offset reached over pretty far here and

01:01:33.120 smack the shit out of his hands like i get like don't like piss people off i guess and take video

01:01:38.300 whatever the fuck but like yo he reached far like he had he had to use all his reach and lean in to

01:01:43.900 knock the phone out of his dude's hands i've got i've got some pretty specific thoughts here let's

01:01:47.600 see what you got um so i'm gonna i'm gonna take a few i'm gonna take the nice guy approach the bad

01:01:52.860 guy approach so here's one thing sometimes people have shitty days man and like for for all for all

01:01:59.460 we know we're not offset and offset that day could have had five other aggressive ass fans

01:02:05.060 up in his face like look sometimes fans treat you like you're an object i i haven't really

01:02:11.180 experienced that because i'm not at that level but when it comes to pretty big celebrities it's like

01:02:15.780 oh you're not going to take a photo of me what like you know and it's it's like this expectation

01:02:19.520 that like i've seen it wear on people and it's it's fucking it's tough like yeah no one gets

01:02:24.720 how hard it is to constantly always be on camera and there's this ongoing expectation that if you

01:02:30.060 don't you know oh yeah sure i'll send your cousin a video yeah we'll take it it ends up like getting

01:02:35.140 to you and like you lose i've seen someone so many famous people be like dude if i could just have a

01:02:39.860 day in the middle of nowhere where i just didn't have to worry and i could just you know what i'm

01:02:43.800 saying and for all we know he could have had a pretty tough day feeling like that and maybe that

01:02:49.040 was the last straw where he just impulsively fucking smacked the kids phone also at the same

01:02:54.760 time though i completely agree with you man like this kid this kid could be buying his albums could

01:02:58.640 be buying his merch paying for concert tickets paying his bills and he got excited he got excited

01:03:03.140 he doesn't know you know it's just i don't i think it's uncalled for to do that as as a professional

01:03:07.800 and a celebrity although it might feel just although you might public too you know you got

01:03:12.620 a grocery store yeah although you might i guess that's true it's not like he was sitting at dinner

01:03:16.640 with his girlfriend

01:03:17.360 you're like

01:03:17.860 so yeah I mean

01:03:18.880 you know like

01:03:19.540 you gotta control yourself

01:03:20.560 I really like what you did there

01:03:22.520 that was good

01:03:23.060 he gave two answers

01:03:24.020 and both are great answers

01:03:25.440 both are phenomenal answers

01:03:26.160 because my impulse was like

01:03:27.060 yo fuck off Offset

01:03:28.400 this kid's minding his business

01:03:29.980 I'm not gonna say

01:03:31.020 he's an asshole

01:03:31.500 but also at the same time

01:03:32.560 it's like bro

01:03:32.980 you signed up for this life

01:03:34.220 you're in the spotlight

01:03:35.220 and at the same time

01:03:36.480 it might be hard for you

01:03:38.220 but you're

01:03:38.800 part of being in a position

01:03:40.880 like his

01:03:41.300 is like you gotta deal

01:03:42.000 with the pressure

01:03:42.500 you gotta deal with

01:03:43.540 that type of thing

01:03:44.080 and there's no excuse

01:03:45.020 to like

01:03:45.840 like this kid pays your bills you know like facts i think you gotta just he's gotta buy him

01:03:52.620 10 more phones and give him some ammo in case that happens again and there's one and there's

01:03:56.880 one thing where there's no twisting and thinking on and that's legality so like i so like obviously

01:04:01.400 it was deemed that he broke the law because now he's in trouble and so it's like no matter what

01:04:06.240 any of us say on the podcast like the police deemed that he had broken the law i also you know

01:04:10.840 another thing too is like look even if you didn't want to be in the fans video like you could have

01:04:14.820 thrown him a peace sign and made his fucking easy done easy turn around even if you didn't want to

01:04:19.760 be in the video you could have just yeah yeah peace sign and dip we also got net star brooklyn

01:04:25.560 nets d'angelo russell was cited for a marijuana possession i love this because i used to have

01:04:30.360 these things he uh he put it in a uh arizona tea the fake can oh my god that is throwback

01:04:39.440 Did you guys ever have those?

01:04:41.400 If you tried to pull a 007, you got busted.

01:04:43.320 I had the fake wall

01:04:45.840 outlet. You know what I'm saying?

01:04:47.220 You'd carve a hole in your wall and put a plug there.

01:04:50.480 What were you hiding there, though?

01:04:52.100 No, bro. I don't know.

01:04:53.380 You just had it?

01:04:54.060 Coins that I was collecting?

01:04:55.460 Little treasures?

01:04:56.740 I just had it, just in case.

01:04:59.280 Where was he that weed is still illegal?

01:05:02.680 What is that fucking Idaho

01:05:04.300 or some shit?

01:05:05.340 He had to have been out there.

01:05:06.700 That's New York.

01:05:09.440 weed's not legal in new york yeah it's not decriminalized in new york was it scanned do

01:05:14.260 you think or a dog sniffed it out uh does it say they just got it caught it got caught in tsa

01:05:19.220 honestly poor guy man that sucks he's just trying to smoke some weed he's just trying to get a little

01:05:22.900 i feel bad for the people who are still in jail who got arrested for like minor possessions of

01:05:27.340 marijuana that's gotta change i don't smoke weed but at the same i'm just dude it's it's harmless

01:05:32.680 man like are you gonna fuck a dude over like well i think people are waking up to that big time

01:05:37.360 because like you know two years ago like you could only well it was just legalized but wait

01:05:43.300 can you can you travel with it uh state to state if it's legal in the in the state you're traveling

01:05:49.760 traveling weird that is so weird why have we not caught so he was that thing well dude i mean

01:05:54.820 weed was just legalized like think about that in in here or in the united states like just a couple

01:06:01.140 years well not even it's not even federally legal it's only legal it's state to state so i mean like

01:06:05.920 culturally we are still like so far behind where we're like alcohol for example like it's so like

01:06:14.360 you can have a drink a couple drinks go drive you can do your thing go drive i don't know if

01:06:18.540 that's legal yeah a couple drinks oh yeah there's a legal limit 0.08 yeah blood alcohol

01:06:24.220 concentration unless you're like me and you're under 21 then you shouldn't well why would you

01:06:28.860 ever drink ever like you never ever i've never drank i've never drank but yeah it is it is messed

01:06:34.640 up you could actually still be busted by the feds right now for for weed like like in all honesty

01:06:40.400 like you could have a legal state grow house and it's legal in the state and the feds can come take

01:06:45.760 you to jail for cultivating marijuana and you'll go to jail yeah so it's a very it's a very weird

01:06:50.440 situation right now that's that's legal facts um you know very similar to legal uh a black hole

01:06:56.040 bigger than the sun is pulling on the fabric of space right now i'm a fucking nerd nine times i

01:07:01.540 woke up two days ago and i saw that and i freaked out pulling on the fabric of space and time

01:07:09.200 8 000 light years away from us right now just sucking that space in and time and time and time

01:07:16.380 bro don't feel it you haven't felt like the night yeah shorter lately maybe don't you ever think

01:07:20.540 like if you're having a rough day and you're like hey something's going on and you're like oh wait

01:07:24.500 there's a black hole sucking in everything yeah but that's why you're having a bad day yeah no

01:07:29.360 it's the black holes that's what i'm saying right it's not because i got it's not because i got 10

01:07:32.580 parking tickets because it's the fucking black hole you didn't drink you didn't black out last

01:07:36.820 night you black hole yeah yeah like you just had too many drinks yeah exactly it was the black hole

01:07:41.200 that texted your ex that's exactly right black hole ordered all that shit in and out at 4 a.m

01:07:45.460 yeah all is black hole driven i think that's that's the key i'm just gonna start playing

01:07:49.280 everything on the black that's actually a phenomenal d'angelo russell is that the airport

01:07:53.900 i am so sorry about the arizona can man black hole what do you want me to fucking say that's

01:07:59.000 facts all this shit man hey great i just clapped for myself that was weird no it's okay you can

01:08:05.600 guys am i doing okay yo you're doing good yeah you're fucking great bro thanks you guys look at

01:08:11.100 this wall it's impressive you guys got some big people when i say number one podcast in the world

01:08:15.140 it's not like i just say those words i mean it i know but here i am on the number one podcast i

01:08:19.700 just i didn't think i would be here so i'm like i keep wanting to grab this mic and do some like

01:08:24.660 Yo, what's good?

01:08:25.320 You can, bro.

01:08:26.380 Yo, get in there.

01:08:27.340 Do you ever fail at anything?

01:08:29.360 Yeah, all the time.

01:08:31.980 I feel like that's just how you learn, man.

01:08:35.040 I feel like burning bridges is, I mean, like,

01:08:37.700 because you're always dealing with people.

01:08:39.380 You ever fail with people?

01:08:40.860 You ever burn a bridge?

01:08:42.040 I'm going to be completely honest with you, rarely.

01:08:44.700 And it's not necessarily a good thing.

01:08:46.920 I actually wish that I was okay with burning bridges.

01:08:50.800 but i'm you know like i don't want to say i'm a people pleaser because i don't i don't really

01:08:56.600 let people walk over me and i'm not like a yes person like i'm not it's not like that like a

01:09:01.280 weakness thing it's more of just like for me i'll always take the route of new neutrality and like

01:09:08.140 not picking up the confrontation or like i don't know how to explain it or like like i remember

01:09:12.780 my ex used to always be like dude that person's just fucking using you and i'd be like yeah but

01:09:17.960 like it's not really affecting like not okay that's a bad example not using me but like say

01:09:22.360 i don't know i'm trying to make figure out like negative they're a negative like oh like yeah

01:09:26.460 like what have you ever worried if that person's using you i'm like maybe but like is it really

01:09:30.640 fucking me over like i have fun with them like we go out like whatever you know like sometimes i

01:09:35.480 just it's it's a little easier to be naive from time to time to choose to be naive and just kind

01:09:41.960 of like be mellow like i don't have enemies i can't think of anyone that's enemy like there's

01:09:46.340 certain people that maybe will get upset with me but i always resolve it like i'm down to apologize

01:09:49.960 i'd rather like you know like i'm just i've never been in a physical fight when i get and when

01:09:55.600 someone's mad at me it weighs down on me so i don't believe you bro you're wearing a wife

01:09:59.160 protector looking brolic as fuck right now you're protecting wise bro yo yo to your point earlier

01:10:05.060 about 50 of your job being networking i'm the same way as you i if i have a problem with someone i'm

01:10:10.760 I'm, it messes me up so bad, dude.

01:10:12.280 Bro, I address it, I will lose sleep at night.

01:10:14.540 Like, even if the person's dead fucking wrong,

01:10:17.300 I'm like, because this is what you gotta understand, dude.

01:10:19.640 Someone could be dead fucking wrong,

01:10:21.960 but if they've got a voice,

01:10:23.400 and they're in this city, and this city's small,

01:10:25.460 they're gonna go around voicing it like,

01:10:27.440 you're dead fucking wrong.

01:10:28.460 Yeah.

01:10:28.720 And you kinda, you gotta watch out for that shit.

01:10:31.420 Yeah.

01:10:31.800 And it's like, I don't wanna jeopardize my career

01:10:33.860 to, like, prove my point.

01:10:34.860 So, yeah, sometimes I'm a people pleaser,

01:10:36.480 and I've gotten walked on before,

01:10:38.240 and I try to, I'm, like, now trying to get better

01:10:39.960 like my manager always says the most important word in hollywood is no yeah and um i'm trying

01:10:45.700 to get better at going no like no i don't owe you my time i don't owe you anything instead of just

01:10:50.320 going yeah yeah i'll help you out i'll help you out you know what i mean like you can't always be

01:10:53.940 too nice like you can't um but as far as feelings concerned the last year and a half i moved out i

01:10:59.580 lived on my own and i walked out of my parents household as an arrogant fucking 18 year old kid

01:11:05.000 that thought i knew everything i'm now realizing i know little to fucking nothing and the only

01:11:09.680 thing that's gonna teach the only thing that's gonna teach you everything you know is time bro

01:11:13.520 holy shit the only thing that makes you more intelligent the next guy is time you might not

01:11:20.160 you might not bro that shit's being sucked away by a black hole black hole bro so so yes man like

01:11:26.880 there's just been so many times where i've gone oh my god like my mom that was so right when i was

01:11:32.160 eight and a half she was so right like but you started early which is good like you started

01:11:37.600 I'm adulted bro

01:11:38.760 for sure

01:11:39.300 I'm adulted

01:11:39.880 and you started

01:11:40.500 you started at 16

01:11:41.860 I've been paying my bills

01:11:42.760 since I was 15

01:11:43.580 my parents haven't

01:11:44.220 contributed a dime

01:11:45.000 which I

01:11:45.760 that's my choice

01:11:46.940 and now

01:11:48.100 I had to learn

01:11:49.020 how to do laundry man

01:11:50.020 I had to learn how to cook

01:11:51.000 I'm like out here

01:11:51.840 being a fucking dad

01:11:53.060 that just came out the womb

01:11:54.140 dude it's crazy

01:11:54.860 maybe those are really

01:11:56.280 maybe those are normal things

01:11:58.140 but that was a really

01:11:58.700 big deal for me

01:11:59.520 no I

01:11:59.940 I don't think

01:12:00.800 I don't think you're too far off

01:12:02.140 from like

01:12:02.600 man I give you a year

01:12:03.740 before you're no longer

01:12:05.100 like oh my parents were right

01:12:06.640 like I

01:12:07.120 Like, I think I was 20, 21 when I fully became, like, aware of myself and what I was doing and found my body, I guess you could say.

01:12:15.640 Yeah, no, I'm definitely starting to, like, like, my philosophies are just changing month to month.

01:12:20.240 And it's so crazy how, like, I look at myself six months ago and I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe, like, that was my lifestyle.

01:12:27.160 Yeah.

01:12:27.440 Like, when I first moved up here, I was going out all the time, as do a lot of people when they first move here.

01:12:33.460 i was waking up at like 10 11 a.m every day i was letting tons of people sleep at my place

01:12:39.380 distract me like not not eating healthy not working out like so many things that now to me

01:12:44.480 i view as critical like an organized space clear head like you know adequate sleep like things of

01:12:50.260 that nature and i'm looking back and that to me i was like back then i was like oh no i'm fucking

01:12:54.620 i'm killing it and now i'm like yo you were so not killing it now you're killing it i feel like

01:12:58.540 six months from now i'm gonna be like oh shit like you could have been better you know like you just

01:13:02.240 grow you grow you grow that's how it works bro yeah that's life the evolution hey yo can we go

01:13:06.600 to audio only q a right now it's just a little more but it's audio only and it's a q a so so

01:13:12.620 what you just don't see me yeah yeah yeah you won't see your beautiful face anymore or your

01:13:16.360 wife protecting hey sam hey thank you for coming on impulsive brother the number one podcast in the

01:13:21.440 world and cool you did good what's your what's your social where can they find you on instagram

01:13:27.100 They can find me at

01:13:28.240 Sam Dameshek

01:13:30.280 That's S-A-M-D-A-M-E-S-H-E-K

01:13:34.700 Damn, that's such a long last name.

01:13:36.980 Spell dailies.

01:13:38.140 Have you ever considered changing it to Sam Dam?

01:13:41.000 Samdom?

01:13:41.560 I'm so funny that you say that.

01:13:43.080 That's what all the kids used to call me in high school.

01:13:45.000 Sam Dam?

01:13:45.400 Sam Dam.

01:13:46.300 That's tight.

01:13:47.080 Sam Dam.

01:13:47.880 Someone took the username though.

01:13:49.680 No.

01:13:50.200 Instagram.

01:13:50.880 I know people who know people.

01:13:52.020 You think Instagram watches this?

01:13:53.760 I know they do.

01:13:54.640 Okay, I need to get verified.

01:13:56.160 Hey.

01:13:56.560 Mike just got verified two days ago

01:13:59.500 They said I need better press

01:14:02.240 Is this press

01:14:02.980 Say something or do something

01:14:06.360 Fucked up bad

01:14:07.880 It'll get picked up immediately

01:14:09.860 Do something horrible

01:14:11.720 I don't know about that

01:14:12.960 Say it in a Spencer's mic

01:14:17.020 Don't do it

01:14:19.620 No no no

01:14:22.140 Kidding

01:14:22.900 At Sam

01:14:25.860 Damage check

01:14:26.320 If you guys want to give me

01:14:27.300 The username Sam

01:14:27.960 And verify me

01:14:28.480 That'd be cool

01:14:28.880 But just saying

01:14:29.360 We freaking love you guys

01:14:30.900 Hit that subscribe button

01:14:31.740 Write us five stars

01:14:32.380 We'll see you next time

01:14:33.360 Peace

01:14:34.760 Here we are

01:14:36.340 Audio only

01:14:37.160 It's more

01:14:38.500 But just audio

01:14:39.740 Yeah it's like

01:14:40.260 The visuals are gone

01:14:40.920 Did you ever have a moment

01:14:41.980 When you're young

01:14:43.600 And you're just being young

01:14:45.320 And you look around

01:14:46.540 And you're like

01:14:46.960 Holy shit

01:14:48.160 This is my life

01:14:49.120 Oh my god

01:14:50.840 Yeah bro

01:14:51.800 I call them

01:14:52.660 Holy fuck moments

01:14:53.600 Yes

01:14:53.940 And I feel like

01:14:55.400 every every kid that flew out of the nest pretty early has them it's normally with my buddy connor

01:15:00.580 but we'll just like i don't know let me think of like they normally stick in my head i actually i

01:15:07.020 used to like i like the holy fuck moment i used to i used to write them down when it happened i

01:15:10.680 describe everything detail by detail whenever a holy fuck moment would hit me but yeah no like

01:15:15.320 there's just sometimes like we would just look at each other and we go oh fuck or maybe they're

01:15:21.020 oh fuck moments and he'd be like oh fuck yeah like yo how do we explain this to our kids maybe

01:15:28.800 how do we explain it to our kid moments but like yeah dude i've lived a lot of fucking life in the

01:15:35.500 last two years like i've seen some shit that's just unfathomable like the people and conversations

01:15:41.720 i've been around to the places i've gone to like it's just been like what yeah yeah like what i

01:15:47.200 can imagine it's it gets ridiculous at times dude i'm sure there's just certain moments that like

01:15:51.420 it doesn't i could have every insane adjective in the book i could paint a goddamn picture

01:15:56.740 and you just wouldn't understand how holy fuck the holy fuck moment was so yes those are the

01:16:02.860 best mom's gonna hate me for cursing this nah nah shit this is audio only unless she's going to

01:16:06.760 spotify and itunes oh this is oh yeah she ain't gonna see it bro so it's like it's definitely

01:16:10.640 not gonna see it it's like that she goes it's like the podcast but just audio no visual yeah

01:16:14.640 it's innovation

01:16:16.380 hey

01:16:16.780 what are some major keys

01:16:18.180 to taking a good photo

01:16:19.060 if someone

01:16:20.020 if someone

01:16:20.400 if there's some photographers

01:16:21.540 listening right now

01:16:22.340 what do they have to do

01:16:24.160 to start getting recognized

01:16:25.300 as a photographer

01:16:25.960 because that shit is hard

01:16:27.140 by the way

01:16:27.640 yeah

01:16:27.940 be authentic

01:16:29.220 what does that mean

01:16:30.560 how

01:16:30.700 but what does that mean

01:16:31.940 shoot for you

01:16:32.840 don't shoot to be someone else

01:16:34.500 don't shoot

01:16:35.540 my new

01:16:36.640 my newest phrase

01:16:37.560 recently that I'm trying to live by

01:16:39.100 is I want to be the next

01:16:40.280 same damage check

01:16:40.940 you know

01:16:41.880 which sounds dumb

01:16:43.080 no it doesn't

01:16:43.680 I'm just saying like

01:16:44.480 i i realized like like i if i keep striving to be people that came before me then how will i ever do

01:16:50.320 something greater so like i guess what i'm saying is strive to be yourself i i have tattooed on my

01:16:55.800 arm there's only one of you in this world and that's like the most important thing so if you

01:16:59.260 want to get recognized as a photographer seek inspiration i'm sorry there's an ac 130 attacking

01:17:04.480 our fucking podcast right now what is that that was loudest holy what was that shit

01:17:11.020 playing off coordinates that's what we're going with playing off coordinates

01:17:17.200 it sounded like the black hole is outside the door dude um yeah the next sam damashek

01:17:24.540 be authentic uh shoot shoot shit that's unique to you there's no but also at the same time like

01:17:29.660 find seek inspiration as well like it's okay to be inspired but like take take everyone's

01:17:35.220 eclectic styles and all this different shit and then figure out where that you know where

01:17:40.380 that intersects with who you are as an artist and then like build off of that my ex the one you sat

01:17:44.640 next to on the plane uh again i dated her when i was 19 and she she told me she was reading a book

01:17:49.480 called steal like an artist and it's what you just said it's like everything is inspiration

01:17:53.080 steal it take it use it as your own and then transform it make it yours exactly dude fuck i

01:17:58.420 need to read that book steal like an artist still do that to this day yep difference in being or in

01:18:04.620 shooting a celebrity and influencer is there a difference in behavior that you notice yeah you

01:18:09.900 know it's ironic because i sometimes feel like i'll get more ego from an influencer at times

01:18:15.600 no way isn't that great dude that's what i'm realizing it's it's almost funny like i feel

01:18:22.180 like there's like different levels there's like you know your people that are brand new there's

01:18:26.440 the people that just came up there's the people that are famous but they're not like in your face

01:18:31.320 fuck you famous and then there's fuck you famous yeah i honestly feel like the nicest people i've

01:18:36.100 worked with so far are the fuck you famous ones wow sean halsey miley three of the nicest famous

01:18:42.080 people i like no ego dude no fucking ego like so nice it hurts like i've heard all i've heard

01:18:49.060 sean and halsey both go like if you like to like their friend if you ever hear me you know act

01:18:57.520 like egotistical or act this way slap me really yeah and then if you when you come to the in

01:19:02.360 between people it's hit or miss and then i find with a lot of people that just came up really fast

01:19:06.800 and are all of a sudden in this shit yeah you'll find some ego there and then i don't know i don't

01:19:10.880 really work with influencers as much anymore like i kind of i for the most what about the models like

01:19:15.480 the or like because some of them are model models some of them are like instant models you know

01:19:19.960 everyone always asks me have you ever worked with someone that's a bitch or shitty model

01:19:22.980 no i mean i think it's hard to be a bitch around me like i really try to bring out the best in

01:19:28.480 people, but I just have worked with a lot of people that don't connect with. Like I'm, I'm

01:19:32.220 pretty much friends with every single girl that I work with, which isn't super common. So I feel

01:19:37.360 like if I come out of a shoot and we haven't exchanged numbers and made plans to like, go do

01:19:41.260 something fun outside of work, then, I mean, maybe I was off that day, but like for the most part,

01:19:47.560 it's probably because the person was just dry, like flat. So like I'll experience like dry people,

01:19:51.860 but, or someone that you could tell is a little bit like high maintenance, a little ego-ish, but

01:19:55.900 i'm i've been pretty blessed to work with a lot of amazing women and like a lot of amazing people

01:20:00.340 in the industry that's dope i hope that continues to happen i feel like influencers uh a lot of them

01:20:05.740 almost have to it's almost a weird thing where you have to act like you're the mega superstar

01:20:10.720 or maybe that's what they're exactly it's the fake it till you make it shit yes which isn't

01:20:15.200 always a bad thing i personally think sometimes faking it till you make it's a very

01:20:18.860 good business strategy but don't be a dick about it you know what i mean like

01:20:23.100 there's a balance

01:20:24.700 there's a balance

01:20:25.540 in everything

01:20:25.960 you know what I'm saying

01:20:26.380 any other shooters

01:20:27.220 that you're looking at

01:20:28.300 these days

01:20:28.740 like who do you

01:20:29.420 whose work do you like

01:20:31.240 shooters

01:20:33.100 in LA

01:20:33.680 I got shooters

01:20:34.140 we got shooters

01:20:35.440 or actually anywhere

01:20:36.460 LA, New York

01:20:37.160 Paris

01:20:38.300 Jason Lee Perry

01:20:39.380 is fucking insane

01:20:40.620 he's a huge inspiration

01:20:42.420 to me

01:20:42.760 I don't know if

01:20:43.620 this is how you pronounce it

01:20:44.480 but Purine

01:20:45.100 I really like his film work

01:20:46.520 Wolf Cub Wolf Cub

01:20:48.040 in Australia

01:20:48.580 she's just incredible

01:20:49.900 this guy Cameron Hammond

01:20:51.500 he's really

01:20:52.960 really good love his shit um and then i love like i love i get inspiration from movies too

01:20:59.200 like i love a lot of movie like music video directors so i don't always remember the name

01:21:03.420 of different music video directors but i'll like seek inspiration in that i mean fucking i love

01:21:06.900 like tarantino like the old guys helmet and like so good that shit's just you got to study what

01:21:11.060 came before you um do you shoot with anybody else in la like do you have are you friends with other

01:21:16.660 photographers yeah yeah yeah i actually i recently started doing that i almost want to make photographers

01:21:21.520 are so competitive and so bitchy and so petty that i seek out the ones that aren't and i kind

01:21:27.780 of want to like start a revolution of photographers supporting photographers it's awesome like very

01:21:31.660 recently i have shamelessly dropped all ego and message a photographer and been like how did you

01:21:35.900 do this and i've now gotten same feedback where we're just helping each other build and i think

01:21:40.440 it's because i now have the confidence where i don't feel like anyone's coming from my head

01:21:43.040 i don't feel like someone's gonna fucking take my job so yeah like i've been i help out the

01:21:48.260 the small you know what's funny is like a lot of the smaller photographers have to hustle way

01:21:53.660 harder so their business sense is just like if you find a photographer that's a little older

01:21:57.960 but smaller that is old enough to know you know like how to run a business but also is small

01:22:05.340 enough that he needs to really fucking hustle they'll have like impeccable strategy so I'll

01:22:09.740 find those smaller photographers and I'll go hey like I'll bring you on something bigger I'll give

01:22:14.080 you a bigger opportunity and like yeah technically that could hurt me a little bit but like help me

01:22:19.180 do this like my friend stew he's newer to the industry and god damn is that kid smart so he's

01:22:23.780 he helped me like set up the basis for my workshop which is actually in two days um and he's he's

01:22:30.340 newer and doesn't have access to some of the clients i do so like i bring him on my shoots

01:22:33.800 too and like we've been building off each other a ton like just shit like that very cool i think

01:22:37.200 that's really cool what that stuff what takes place in the workshop um i'm going to teach

01:22:41.740 a group of 25 kids in LA

01:22:44.360 and a group of, as of right now,

01:22:46.040 it's 17 out of 20, buy my tickets.

01:22:49.220 Everything I know about like how to be a photographer.

01:22:51.180 So there'll be hands-on shooting

01:22:52.200 where they'll watch me shoot.

01:22:53.680 I'll help them shoot.

01:22:54.660 I'll be like giving my advice.

01:22:56.100 But I really think I'm going to focus on

01:22:58.260 the 50% of the job that's networking, business,

01:23:01.640 how to talk to people,

01:23:02.580 how to like conduct yourself, everything.

01:23:04.480 Because I think that's, you know,

01:23:06.380 like I said, you can't teach photography.

01:23:08.260 So if I'm going to stick to that,

01:23:09.900 like, yeah, sure, I'm going to give tips and tricks.

01:23:11.740 But I think the thing that really needs to be focused on is, like, I don't think I would be anywhere close to where I was if, like, I didn't know how to just handle myself as a human being.

01:23:19.640 Yeah.

01:23:19.880 I swear to God, you can make it pretty far in this life just being good at networking.

01:23:26.360 Having absolutely no other skills whatsoever except for making people feel comfortable around you and building relationships.

01:23:35.020 Like, I know so many people that are eating off the plates of billionaires with no fucking skill set whatsoever.

01:23:40.580 Yeah.

01:23:40.680 just make that they want the person around

01:23:42.480 the person around. That's it, dude.

01:23:43.980 It's incredible, bro.

01:23:47.560 But when you combine it with a

01:23:48.800 skill like really good shooting, then

01:23:50.780 you've got a major situation.

01:23:52.940 Connecting is a valuable

01:23:54.660 skill. Oh, it's massive. If you can

01:23:56.700 connect and you can

01:23:58.140 help other people eat, then you'll always

01:24:00.720 have food to eat.

01:24:02.420 Last question. I like your nails. Why did you

01:24:04.700 decide to paint them? I've been doing

01:24:06.660 it for a while. I'm actually glad you asked this question.

01:24:08.900 I started doing it

01:24:10.040 i don't know like i feel like do any of you guys have like guy idols like dudes you see and you're

01:24:15.000 just like fuck that guy's so fucking swag yeah he's so cool like i want to yeah for sure you

01:24:19.960 know what i mean so like hugh jackman hugh jackman he's fucking great he's sick but um no and like

01:24:25.700 i want to say freshman year eighth grade like johnny depp i was like you're a bad motherfucker

01:24:30.000 this dude this dude um oh god i so don't want to pronounce his name wrong because i literally paint

01:24:35.000 my nails every day for him and he passes away dylan dylan reader rider one of the one of the

01:24:38.960 too insane skateboarder and i feel like he paved the way for like what i wanted to how i wanted to

01:24:44.040 carry myself as a man got it he had this tattoo and he also always painted his nails black so like

01:24:48.740 i had done it because he he was kind of doing it and then i just liked how i felt with my nails

01:24:53.320 painted i always felt cooler it fits you it's dope i felt cooler with black nails it's dope like you

01:24:57.380 know when you wear something and even if no one else likes it like i'd ever oh you're gay you're

01:25:01.000 this you're that and i'm like dude i i feel fucking sick like i just i felt more confident

01:25:07.780 stepping out of the house with painted nails and i also like that i was pushing the norm of like

01:25:13.700 yo you know like what's the word um like metro like i i like i think it's cool to be a masculine

01:25:21.520 dude and be fully straight but embrace womanly qualities man like girls girls got it fucking

01:25:27.200 going in a lot of areas like i'll get my eyebrows done i'll get my hair dyed i'll get my nails

01:25:31.680 fucking painted like i'm not scared to be feminine sometimes because i'm just comfortable yeah like

01:25:36.500 I got like so many people are like, are you gay?

01:25:38.940 Are you gay?

01:25:39.380 Are you gay?

01:25:39.620 I'm like, dude, if I was fucking gay, I would be fucking gay.

01:25:43.300 Yeah.

01:25:43.540 That's just how it is.

01:25:44.600 And there's nothing wrong with that.

01:25:45.920 But for me, it's like, I just, why not embrace like so many of the wonderful features that

01:25:50.400 the opposite sex has?

01:25:51.560 So that was kind of like the whole nail thing.

01:25:53.140 And then it stuck with me.

01:25:53.980 And then, yeah, the skater passed away.

01:25:56.060 Um, RIP.

01:25:56.880 So then it kind of became a tribute.

01:25:58.140 And then I just had so many reasons to continue doing it that I was like, I can't fucking

01:26:01.300 stop doing this.

01:26:02.400 That's awesome.

01:26:02.980 Yeah.

01:26:03.140 If you find photos of me from like four years ago, my nails are painted every day.

01:26:05.860 I love that.

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