Impaulsive with Logan Paul - The Clavicular Interview

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00:00:28.460 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Clavicular

00:00:30.680 You've got fresh lawsuits this week

00:00:33.000 Ran over Stalker and Tesla

00:00:34.480 Part owner of a club in Miami

00:00:35.960 Overdosage

00:00:36.980 Was that experience a wake-up call?

00:00:38.500 I was kind of using the drugs as a coke

00:00:40.280 To come across as like a normie

00:00:41.920 You've been on tests since you were 14

00:00:44.100 Correct

00:00:44.700 You actually took a hammer to your face to shape your jawbone 0.56

00:00:47.120 Yes

00:00:47.500 Did your parents really have to hide the hammers around the house?

00:00:50.460 They did, that was not a joke

00:00:51.600 Are you on like the spectrum?

00:00:53.820 Drake said Clav has a micro

00:00:55.460 Does he?

00:00:56.160 No, not micro

00:00:57.000 I've been doing P.E. for a while.

00:00:58.760 Would that be considered maxing?

00:01:00.940 You don't have to, like, add max to everything. 0.94

00:01:03.340 I would rather my d*** never work again and keep all of my hair than anything.

00:01:07.940 I don't like that one at all. 0.99

00:01:09.140 That one's crazy.

00:01:10.060 How important is it to you to also make the girl have it?

00:01:13.600 The amount of extra effort is just not going to really have much ROI.

00:01:18.280 When that girl slapped you, was that real?

00:01:20.300 Yeah.

00:01:20.660 Could you see why she hit you?

00:01:22.400 Not really.

00:01:22.960 I saw a video of you kissing a mom and then kissing her daughter.

00:01:25.600 Yeah.

00:01:25.840 It appears, at least from your streams, you have game.

00:01:27.740 I just like to skip straight to the point 0.97

00:01:29.480 and just ask if a girl wants to have s**t. 0.96

00:01:31.440 Bro, I'm so entertained. 0.98

00:01:32.980 Why don't you rate me Logan?

00:01:34.220 Okay.

00:01:35.380 I'd probably rate you a 3.75.

00:01:39.280 Alright, I'm up. 0.99

00:01:40.140 I'm going to say s**t. 0.98

00:01:44.360 So. 0.97

00:01:55.840 Are these intentionally placed or could I drink?

00:01:58.240 You can drink one.

00:01:58.880 Yeah, yeah, go for it.

00:02:03.100 That's pro.

00:02:03.720 Wait, are we on?

00:02:05.100 Are we currently going?

00:02:06.660 That's the protein.

00:02:07.960 You had regular prime because I saw a clip of you drinking it.

00:02:12.940 Yeah.

00:02:13.260 I think.

00:02:14.600 But there's protein.

00:02:15.760 Did I say anything about it?

00:02:16.680 Yeah, you can say whatever you want.

00:02:17.980 No, did I?

00:02:18.560 Oh, no, no, no.

00:02:19.160 You said that we wanted to have you on the show.

00:02:24.860 Yeah.

00:02:24.960 Which is obviously true, as evidenced by the fact that you're here right now.

00:02:28.680 Yeah.

00:02:29.080 And I think your homie was like, you're going to say no, right?

00:02:34.300 And you're like, why would I say no?

00:02:35.660 And then you were talking about mine and you meeting

00:02:39.060 and how we've talked about you on the show over the past couple months

00:02:43.080 and that we were being kind, which is true.

00:02:45.480 Yeah.

00:02:46.120 Yeah, you guys have had a couple clips recently that I saw

00:02:50.280 where it was positive with the basketball guy.

00:02:53.180 he's really good

00:02:55.000 I can see why a lot of the NBA players

00:02:56.920 don't want to go against him in a one-on-one

00:02:58.860 it's like there's really

00:02:59.900 nothing to gain from that

00:03:02.660 that's kind of the same way I see boxing

00:03:04.520 and doing those cards

00:03:06.060 it's like you're really putting a lot on the line

00:03:09.540 unless you're

00:03:11.400 fighting someone who's like so much better

00:03:13.220 than you

00:03:13.720 where if you lose

00:03:16.480 the one guy with Jake

00:03:19.120 Jake and Anthony Joshua

00:03:20.140 where people are like okay

00:03:21.660 like this is some ballsy stuff

00:03:23.520 correct but if you it's a

00:03:25.480 they call it an aura gamble right

00:03:27.700 it's like sorry to be 41 and say

00:03:29.780 that but it is what they call it

00:03:31.580 the biggest example of it was

00:03:33.840 certainly Tate versus

00:03:35.600 Marcus

00:03:37.460 what's his name again the guy that he fought 1.00

00:03:39.580 oh shit what's his fucking name 1.00

00:03:41.980 I don't know I forgot he's gonna kill it 1.00

00:03:43.200 what was the guy that beat up Tate

00:03:44.420 Chase Damore

00:03:45.580 well I mean it's an aura gamble

00:03:49.300 to normies because they don't

00:03:51.640 really understand the sport when i consider it impressive regardless of what happens to

00:03:57.980 go through a training camp like that because i've boxed for even one and a half hours and

00:04:02.920 you know i have to go to sleep right after so the fact that you do you know your eight-week

00:04:07.460 training camp you go in the ring for however many rounds and however you perform it's still

00:04:12.660 uh something to be proud of win or loss it's it's in boxing is insanely high uh and it takes a lot

00:04:21.380 out of you high output yeah um bet all right back to the topic of how you got here i i'll speak for

00:04:27.560 myself and i think you could say some stuff as well i have been very intrigued by your content

00:04:32.980 over the past few months past i guess even longer probably how long has it been now since you've

00:04:38.440 been kind of on since about november november okay so like six months six months yeah there's

00:04:46.440 been a tremendous number of people who have come up under this new wave of alpha these aren't

00:04:53.180 definitions for you but this alpha or or prior to that was red pill and kind of like started with

00:04:58.520 this tape and all the people that have come up i never wanted to have any of them on the show i'm

00:05:03.320 gonna be be honest with you like they were super intriguing people for some reason the content

00:05:07.960 that you put out is very to me at least seems like it's very authentically you you're a young

00:05:12.620 guy, you're trying to figure out life. You have some very, um, interesting ways of going about it

00:05:18.800 to say the least. And, um, that that's interesting to me. And I, and I think, um,

00:05:25.120 I think you get certain leniencies because of your age.

00:05:30.220 Yeah. Maybe. I mean, do you feel like that though? Um, cause people are really hard on you as well.

00:05:37.240 yeah I just don't know I don't think a lot of people even really know my age up until quite

00:05:43.680 recently so at the start of my career that definitely wasn't the case because I would say

00:05:48.180 that I look a little bit older but yeah you're absolutely right you know a lot of that that red

00:05:53.980 pill like stuff is garbage and the alpha male thing it's something I usually will kind of meme

00:06:00.040 on because those guys have to play a 24-7 persona which you know when you're doing these long 0.93

00:06:07.180 irl streams like i do it just eventually the mask would slip so i was never uh someone who was like

00:06:14.680 all right i'm gonna fake being like this alpha personality and do all this shit uh that way i 0.92

00:06:20.320 can just be real and like have some vulnerable moments on the stream you know where i fuck up 0.93

00:06:25.540 and you know it's okay because uh you're not trying to impress anyone so that's part of the

00:06:31.640 reason i think the content just hits and resonates a lot more we didn't do an intro for clav

00:06:36.920 That's a good point

00:06:38.640 We did not

00:06:39.340 No sorry

00:06:40.040 We have it

00:06:41.200 Yeah we have an intro for you here

00:06:42.420 Oh

00:06:42.680 I'm gonna bring the energy on this

00:06:44.760 Today's guest is the king of looks maxing

00:06:47.200 And the most talked about man on the internet

00:06:49.320 That's a fact

00:06:50.100 If you've been online

00:06:51.120 You've seen the clips

00:06:51.720 We're talking mogging

00:06:52.660 Aura farming

00:06:53.380 Turning internet culture

00:06:54.760 Into a full blown movement

00:06:56.860 Ladies and gentlemen

00:06:57.840 I can't believe I'm saying it

00:06:58.820 It's clavicular

00:06:59.540 Thank you guys

00:07:04.140 How old are you Clev?

00:07:05.220 20 1.00

00:07:05.520 dude that is fucking insane you are so young and you definitely get a pass for some of the crazy 0.99

00:07:11.300 shit we've seen you doing because of your age um obviously won't get a pass forever but like mike 1.00

00:07:17.820 said and like you kind of just said which i thought was actually really mature you are living your 0.92

00:07:22.020 life online you're streaming you're sharing you're having those vulnerable moments you've had some

00:07:25.440 crazy moments online yeah even like bro i'm reading i'm reading this it's hard to know where

00:07:30.160 start the headlines on this pdf are insane yeah it's like ran over someone in it ran over stalker

00:07:36.660 in tesla drake this clap for having a micro uh oh a part owner of a club in miami oh overdosage uh

00:07:46.100 well what where do you want where do you start is the question and also this is kind of an

00:07:50.880 indicative question and you know helps a little bit when you sit down on an interview this is

00:07:56.600 something that was interesting to me too like we'll have people come on sometimes we'll be like

00:08:00.460 hey steer clear of this topic steer clear nobody said shit to me like you've got you've got fresh 0.93

00:08:05.500 lawsuits this fucking week like as of 24 hours ago is there anything that's off limits to you 0.99

00:08:13.120 to talk about uh not really because it's just impossible to avoid like when you're going around 0.89

00:08:21.340 to doing these IRL streams, people come up and they'll say things or, you know, TTS will come

00:08:26.620 through. It's just not something that could really be moderated. Like, it's not like YouTube. Oh,

00:08:31.140 cut that out. You know, I fucked up. Uh, so I'm very used to like the live open format style where 0.99

00:08:37.680 anything goes because it's sure, like with all those headlines you ran, like, you know, literally

00:08:42.820 anything goes on the streams. I don't even know what's going to happen most days when I step out

00:08:47.780 into the world with the camera you know so no reason to try to avoid or steer clear of anything

00:08:53.680 why did you choose streaming versus like vlogging or short form content um

00:08:59.960 i would just say because i hopped on other people's streams on kick and uh you know a lot

00:09:10.860 of people liked it they said hey do more collabs uh do this and that was something that kind of

00:09:17.420 just like segmented really well for me to go from like doing collab appearances to having my own

00:09:24.280 show. And also the people I was around, you know, Aiden, like the SSB guys, like they were telling

00:09:32.080 me about like some of the, um, you know, deals and ways you could monetize it. And I was like,

00:09:37.600 well, this makes a little bit more sense for me than doing the YouTube route, you know?

00:09:42.320 I mean, clearly it was the right strategy. And obviously like streaming is the medium for success, especially in the demo that you're in. Are you ever like a little bit worried or scared about the fact that everything's live and the fact that anything can happen?

00:10:02.660 um i wouldn't say so now but you know the more you grow and the more that's on the line

00:10:11.540 uh the more people want to knock you down a pig or two and i guess that's kind of

00:10:15.800 you know what we've seen this week and um so yeah it's getting there where i definitely have to be

00:10:21.780 more conscious more security moving a little bit smarter uh with what i do but uh for now i just

00:10:28.040 try to think about making the best content possible uh and the more restrictions you put

00:10:32.440 on yourself the worse the content obviously gets i i i'm kind of curious for you what does the best

00:10:39.080 content possible look like because your style is super intriguing i've said it on this show it's

00:10:44.800 like i'm just captivated the clips come on and just new new environment new person new interaction

00:10:50.700 sometimes you're like an amplified version of yourself so like are you going into it with with

00:10:57.060 with intention about what you're going to do for the day no never you're just being yeah like

00:11:03.080 we'll just go outside sometimes and have no idea what's even going to happen like 10 minutes

00:11:08.920 from now but usually the interactions just kind of form naturally themselves yeah um like sometimes

00:11:16.300 we'll have like a rough idea of like a location we're going but like it could quite literally be

00:11:21.600 i'll just decide to go outside and i'll just get on a random bus somewhere okay so when that girl

00:11:26.980 slapped you was that real yeah did it hurt not really it looked like she got you i mean it's

00:11:34.280 just kind of like so shocking like it's not something you expect so you're just like more

00:11:38.360 like stunned than anything did you sue her parents um not gonna talk about that one

00:11:44.980 not gonna well that's off limits yeah wait is that something you would consider though

00:11:50.040 um well that's a little bit difficult and i'm not gonna get into the fair that's fair fair like

00:11:56.660 The thing is, I don't mind people asking questions and having something go on the record, but I'm not necessarily going to always answer.

00:12:04.920 Well, look, if you're going to actually do a lawsuit, then obviously not talk about it.

00:12:08.580 So I get that.

00:12:11.520 Could you see why she hit you?

00:12:15.840 Not really, because she came up talking about how I don't respect women's rights or something.

00:12:26.360 and I was like when have I ever even said this so a lot of people will just like put these uh you

00:12:33.400 know descriptions that they've come up with in their head on my content or associate with me

00:12:39.320 or associate me with some political party when it's literally like the exact opposite of what

00:12:46.980 I want and the content that I make uh I've been extremely like anti-politics from the entire

00:12:52.260 uh time i've had my career and that's one of the things that's really helped me

00:12:56.680 uh be able to capture fans uh and capture an audience from all sides of the aisle

00:13:02.040 um so when people come up and try to say like oh you're right wing you're left wing

00:13:06.840 uh i'm just like really like when when did you see this when steph mcmahon slapped cody rhodes

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00:14:29.540 Now, back to the show.

00:14:33.620 Clearly, like, you've had some, oh, you've had a ton of controversy.

00:14:37.580 Right.

00:14:38.040 Obviously, right?

00:14:39.200 And I think some of the things that have happened lead people to make assumptions about other part of your life,

00:14:46.640 which is which is like a contextual problem for you okay for example one time i called out a group

00:14:54.180 of people who listened to a song called right hail hitler in the club right it was a blanket statement

00:15:02.360 right and it was kind of the original interaction we ever had because you called me grandpa and which

00:15:07.740 is what i said to when i was in scottsdale right yeah but you're not you'll never be able to like

00:15:16.120 go and claim that you you haven't done things that were questionable or controversial right

00:15:22.500 yeah no it's my my goal too and the reason i bring this up is because i i think right now

00:15:29.180 you're at this point this like apex point where it it are it seems like you're already starting

00:15:36.820 to dial some of that stuff back and you're going to have to make a decision as to um whether you

00:15:42.920 want to continue pushing the envelope which is something that he did and potentially overdid or

00:15:49.800 definitely overdid or if you want to dial it back for longevity do you do you feel like you're at

00:15:55.040 an inflection point in your career right now well so there's like the really reactionary clips and

00:16:00.240 like doing the crazy shit but what i was more so talking about with you know the interaction with

00:16:06.360 that girl who slapped me was like okay let's let's break it down and and you know talk about 0.98

00:16:12.460 my serious takes, but that's obviously unrealistic. And I kind of get that now, but that was just my

00:16:18.280 mentality was like, okay, like, let's actually talk about it. Uh, because, you know, whenever

00:16:23.600 I'm sitting down on like a long form podcast or a setting like this, I can really clarify my

00:16:29.680 beliefs on things rather than just, you know, a 15 second out of context thing, or me just trying

00:16:35.340 to uh be reactionary whatever but uh that would just be you know irresponsible understanding of

00:16:42.820 the internet from my perspective so i'm kind of understanding that more now got it this definitely

00:16:50.540 this definitely is like a calmer demeanor and a calmer setting that i'm used to seeing you in

00:16:56.560 yeah um well because like when we're going out nightlife like you're getting excited like you're

00:17:02.860 with your homies. It's just a different vibe to it entirely. But when I'm talking about, you know,

00:17:10.800 my entire career and some of my belief systems, I don't want to just come across as like some

00:17:16.940 tweaker, you know, who's high off Adderall the entire time, like being crazy. That's, you know,

00:17:23.680 that's not what it is. Where are you at with the sobriety journey right now? Because I spoke to

00:17:29.240 a couple weeks ago and you were after you had an od yep which was very public obviously and you

00:17:36.160 were talking about the idea of being sober and if you don't mind me saying the challenges of being

00:17:41.940 sober well streaming so where are you at now uh i've still been maintaining my sobriety right so

00:17:48.840 no alcohol no drugs no nothing um and my entire idea of why it was going to be so hard was more

00:17:57.780 or less a cope because i'm like oh like i was kind of using the drugs as a cope to come across

00:18:04.940 as like a normie um but the reality of the situation is i don't have to right like that's

00:18:11.460 that's a complete waste of my time to try to you know like larp as as someone i'm not

00:18:17.660 i love how these terms are all so like natural i know like i thought i had the same thought

00:18:23.340 for his generation because when we use the terms when i say normie i'm like kind of being satirical

00:18:29.080 you say it with an emphasis yeah you it's like it's actually in the verbiage vocabulary well

00:18:34.360 yeah i mean this is i spent hours a day on forums like growing up and this is the way we talk um

00:18:41.340 you know and i'll i'll talk like this on podcasts on streams and now it's at the point where you

00:18:47.560 know every single streamer is starting to use it like even the nfl like netflix so all these words

00:18:55.080 are being used by the mainstream so it's like no i'm bringing everyone over to my side of the aisle

00:19:00.840 i don't have to go to them so i'm like maybe i really don't need to use these drugs as a crutch

00:19:06.080 and i could just be myself and uh be unapologetic about it well that's what i told you i told you

00:19:11.700 you have an audience now that is pretty locked in and I think they probably enjoy you as a person

00:19:20.620 and not just the actions that you take. And so it's, you just, you're, you're faced with a very

00:19:25.480 similar situation as he was, which is if I'm not doing crazy shit, what do I do now? Yeah. Um, 0.96

00:19:33.840 I, I don't really think it was like too much crazy shit that was like during just my normal 0.74

00:19:41.400 streaming hours was getting people to to watch for or have a long watch hours they just really 0.67

00:19:48.340 like going out and about and interacting with girls because for a lot of people they're too

00:19:53.660 anxious to do that or you know maybe they're younger so they're not able to go out to bars yet

00:20:00.080 um and that's not really something that people stream because there's not as many IRL streamers

00:20:06.340 as you would think who are like consistently streaming like nightlife and dating because

00:20:14.140 you know that's kind of the whole ideology uh of looks maxing is it's about the dating market right

00:20:22.340 when you talk about hypergamy and like all these events so you're kind of showcasing like you know

00:20:27.600 the end result of like after you uh ascend like what's accomplishable you know what is dating

00:20:34.880 actually looking like for the average person uh so those are really interesting experiences to

00:20:39.740 people you you uh did you coin the term looks maxing no i would say that i definitely popularized

00:20:48.360 it yeah no do you know where it come where it came from uh just a lot of forums like so like psl

00:20:55.920 it stems more from like uh you know this weird internet subculture so yeah can we talk a little

00:21:04.280 bit about mogging and looks maxing for a second can you can you put some parameters on ascension

00:21:12.400 and what that looks like for example why don't you rate me and logan oh people love the the

00:21:20.780 rating thing um okay sure um don't don't be biased dude no i won't be biased uh you don't

00:21:31.300 have to worry about that i would say that i'd probably rate you maybe a 3.75

00:21:40.420 out of 10 yeah yeah can you tell us why so yeah mostly because his interpupillary distance

00:21:54.540 so like how close that his eyes are and also the long longer mid face would be the main

00:22:02.460 he does have a long face wait can i i did for sure can i ask you a question yeah does okay

00:22:16.660 3.75 so so where does where does the rating start and stop is the rating strictly face related

00:22:29.260 yeah i mean but you could you know add parameters or you know make clarifications like

00:22:36.060 um if you're rating someone's like total smv their sexual market value that would include a

00:22:43.460 lot of other metrics like okay what's my smv would be a lot higher right because you're famous

00:22:49.240 wealthy um you know tall so that that's something that would be more favorable to you what do you

00:22:56.120 think mike's sexual market value is a extremely high percentile top percentile smv right and

00:23:06.080 that's really the number that i would say matters the most uh is your smv more than anything and i

00:23:12.600 agree with you and i'm happy you said that because that was going to be kind of my question is you

00:23:16.760 definitely took a little bit of a dive but no the smb got it got it back hey listen never was trying

00:23:22.780 to be in gq okay i like to make people laugh i like to make people feel good i like to bring

00:23:27.880 energy to a room okay i fall back on the fact that i'm 6'3 quite often i think height is an

00:23:33.960 incredibly important very important part of the equation but i'm happy that you said that because

00:23:39.500 i think it gives other 3.75s like myself the ability to understand their power

00:23:51.280 well the key bit of nuance there is that uh you know the face and your looks are going to be

00:24:00.520 the most important thing for getting a super high smv so what you've had to accomplish to

00:24:07.580 transcend the rating of 3.75 and be in that top percentile smv wise was become like multi-million

00:24:16.920 follower on social media pages and like uh extreme amounts of wealth so that's not something that

00:24:23.660 the average 3.75 guy is ever going to be able to accomplish so let me cut you off for one second

00:24:29.860 he can maybe attest to it but certainly my family and friends from back home can

00:24:36.580 mike's been pulling very beautiful women for since i was a kid dude it's almost it's almost

00:24:45.480 like the the things you just mentioned for him didn't matter they they helped certainly helped

00:24:51.540 and put me in rooms with different types but and the reason why i bring this up is because it's

00:24:56.800 been one of the places where i always wanted to counter you a little bit in in the priority

00:25:02.100 factor in an smv i think might be humor dude i think i think and i'm and we could talk about it

00:25:11.160 but i think an ability to make a girl laugh and have a good time and feel comfortable

00:25:16.860 in a social scenario in a social setting now i'm not saying that if you're but but clearly for me

00:25:25.280 being a 3.75 it was able to help me overcome that that issue right right so so what is your

00:25:34.640 so what's your counter to that like why why do funny guys why do ugly funny guys get the best 0.99

00:25:41.320 pussy i wouldn't really say ugly funny guys uh get the the most pussy i would say that charisma 0.99

00:25:48.940 is certainly a very important thing okay um and having it is is going to help you a lot 0.99

00:25:54.140 but at the end of the day you know these one-off anecdotes you always hear all the time like oh my

00:26:00.780 you know my buddy he's bald and fat and he makes a lot of jokes but he gets laid all the time

00:26:06.480 it's like we're talking about uh a view of society right getting down to the uh sociological 0.69

00:26:13.700 stuff uh so just as general rules you know that's kind of what i'm more or less eliminating

00:26:21.880 limiting the outliers and focusing on the outliers correct all right i'm up yeah rate my look i would

00:26:28.300 say that oh are we gonna go like current looks or like when you were you know younger because

00:26:37.540 how old are you right now 31 yeah just right just right now clev what you see and by the way i can

00:26:44.520 see you examining my face it's incredible his eyes are actually moving at every part of my face

00:26:51.280 go ahead

00:26:52.880 I'm going to say

00:26:55.180 6.5

00:26:59.800 not even a 7

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00:28:20.160 network on the iheart radio app apple pods or wherever you get your podcasts hey what's up i'm

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00:28:35.460 sex divorce and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about but just don't say out loud i hate

00:28:40.520 that job you're probably just gonna meet for some rich guy and he's gonna whisk you away and i'll

00:28:44.260 never see you again and would you say a d-list actor d i don't even know there's this thing as

00:28:53.260 d no no no i mean like i can't even get on the c-list like i'm not even average i'm not even

00:28:56.940 passing i'm failing listen to no safe words with october and tony gonzalez part of my culture

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00:29:08.880 well i mean people just don't understand the decile scale very much because whenever people

00:29:16.780 do ratings for some reason they assume that seven is average if any girl tells you you're

00:29:22.300 seven out of ten they think you're dead fucking average um but really five is average right five

00:29:28.580 is 50th percentile so um it just doesn't doesn't make sense what would you rate yourself i wouldn't 0.73

00:29:37.240 i wouldn't you can't no i just don't think it's a responsible thing to do why um i think that you

00:29:47.060 will apply certain you know restrictions to yourself if you're someone who's as with the

00:29:55.060 culture as i am like okay i'm this rating uh according to my philosophy uh this is the girl

00:30:03.140 I should be going for or whatever

00:30:04.940 when I don't really think

00:30:07.180 that that's something that's beneficial.

00:30:09.720 Okay, so Mike's eyes were too close.

00:30:11.600 Why did I get the six and a half?

00:30:15.560 Why did you get a better score

00:30:17.980 or why did you not get a higher score?

00:30:19.840 I'll be honest with you,

00:30:20.740 it just seems a little low.

00:30:22.060 I thought I was at least a seven for sure.

00:30:24.580 I would have said,

00:30:26.420 personally, when people ask me

00:30:27.720 what I think I am on a scale of one to ten,

00:30:30.080 I say eight.

00:30:31.160 And I feel comfortable in that.

00:30:32.420 but but but i i want to know like what is it like obviously i have thin hair and i look like a 0.69

00:30:38.420 fucking ridiculous person right now because i have this long hair but yeah yeah yeah what do you

00:30:43.400 think i would say that when you were a little younger i'd say that that rating would be closer 0.98

00:30:50.180 to being true but just you know how aging works it's it's very difficult to maintain 1.00

00:30:56.940 Fuck! 1.00

00:30:57.660 31, bro. 1.00

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00:32:20.540 are you on dutasteride i am not on dutasteride what is dutasteride or finasteride or anything

00:32:26.840 no oh the hair yeah not currently no because i i saw you had a oh currently because i remember

00:32:33.280 seeing you had a pretty impressive recovery from uh from hair loss i did not uh no so when you're

00:32:41.240 trying to conceive uh finasteride is not not good i think um and so we're trying to oh when you're

00:32:52.200 trying to have a kid yeah okay yeah yeah um it really doesn't matter as much as you would think

00:32:58.640 for that it's really just a libido thing because of the neurosteroids so some people deal with like 0.99

00:33:04.580 you know post finasteride syndrome but like at the end of the day um i would rather my dick never 0.98

00:33:12.680 work again and keep all my hair than anything oh i i um i don't like that one i don't like that one 0.98

00:33:19.940 at all that was crazy okay okay let's wow that's that's really like like dude what would you rate 0.99

00:33:27.820 jason statham well uh eight out of ten and he has no hair and his dick probably works pretty 0.97

00:33:36.000 i don't know though but that's it's like you know for the average person you're not going to be 0.99

00:33:41.320 jason statham so you're going to have uh this bald head and a functional dick but it's going 0.99

00:33:48.640 to be over for you when you got no one that you could use it on besides your hand okay okay 1.00

00:33:53.620 if you've got no hair

00:33:55.820 it's pretty much done

00:33:58.100 but how

00:33:59.300 would you use 1.00

00:34:01.080 a non-functioning dick 1.00

00:34:03.260 even if you have hair 1.00

00:34:04.740 well I mean

00:34:07.240 you wouldn't but you just

00:34:09.380 at least they'll be able to mock people

00:34:11.160 bro

00:34:13.120 dude you are

00:34:15.160 you're definitely one of the most

00:34:17.480 interesting people I've ever met in my life

00:34:19.780 Clev hold on a second

00:34:21.120 because isn't

00:34:23.340 okay and i and i want to get back to the distuteride finasteridios as well if the if the you

00:34:30.560 don't take is okay let me i'll unpack my hair as well because i've had quite the hair journey myself

00:34:35.500 if the goal what is the goal of mogging well to improve your life and as you know improving the

00:34:45.580 quality of your of your life to the highest degree is the ultimate goal of looks maxing

00:34:50.480 of self-improvement um and i'd say i like to just keep that general uh goal in mind because that

00:34:59.600 could be women that could be career opportunities whatever um and having a super narrow-minded

00:35:05.920 approach to things where you're only looks maxing or only self-improving to get with a hotter chick

00:35:11.160 i think that's a little ridiculous okay you know i want to go back a couple steps on the peptides

00:35:18.760 and that world because you talk about peptides a lot and you also just talked about the importance

00:35:24.840 of your hair counter that statement you've been on this is maybe the most insane thing

00:35:31.480 you've been on test since you were 14 yeah correct correct test being one of the most anti-hair

00:35:40.120 things in the world right an increase in dht correct well so yes the way that it works is

00:35:48.300 testosterone converts through an enzyme in your body into DHT and finasteride and dutasteride are

00:35:55.220 five alpha reductase blockers. So they block that conversion. Um, so the, you know, if you're on

00:36:02.420 testosterone, well, at the dosage that I am and you're on dutasteride, you're going to have less

00:36:07.780 DHT than the average person would. So you're still going to be a lot hair safer than anything.

00:36:12.880 and right testosterone is still an androgen it could cause hair loss once again a lot weaker

00:36:18.520 than dhg there is other ways you can go about it for the rare one percent of people who are on dutt

00:36:24.300 um and they're still balding with things like topical ru 58841 so there is a lot of ways to

00:36:31.200 avoid it but it's not really a concern if you know how to mitigate side effects well and the the hair

00:36:37.720 world is changing rapidly like we're looking we should be looking down the pipeline here

00:36:43.700 pretty soon at some major breakthroughs in terms of waking up lazy follicles correct

00:36:50.860 yeah so it looks like we're in a lot of phase two trials so uh hopefully all that kind of stuff

00:36:56.280 comes soon you seem pretty knowledgeable on on even like how these things work yeah uh well i

00:37:02.980 mean you have to be like you're kind of like taking a lot of different drugs and they're all

00:37:09.500 interacting inside your body so if you just are blindly uh taking pharmaceuticals it really could

00:37:16.400 go wrong and that's why i've always been against just universally advocating for uh the pharmaceutical

00:37:23.020 intervention because most people won't really understand all the nuance that they need to

00:37:29.940 actually looks max from it and they'll usually wind up looks minning right so sorry one more

00:37:34.620 time looks what they'll wind up looks minning so they'll get worse meaning yeah they'll get worse

00:37:41.140 looking right because like you said the thing about testosterone if you just start taking

00:37:45.580 testosterone because um you know you saw a clip of someone that's 15 seconds long uh and you didn't

00:37:51.820 see the rest of the video that explains things about dht and taking your dutasteride uh you

00:37:57.340 would go bald and get worse. Right. So, um, that's why I'm like, I really don't think you

00:38:02.980 should do it unless you've done years of research or are under careful supervision of a medical

00:38:09.700 professional. What's your stack right now? Like everything you're taking. Um, it's funny. I

00:38:17.060 actually just made a list. Uh, it's for, it's that, is it that long? How much, how much,

00:38:22.840 how much test weekly 300 or right now it's only 240 actually 240 test sip yes that's not um that's

00:38:32.360 not a massive dose no that's but it's been much higher in the past not really no i've always been

00:38:38.480 like consistently in that sports trt range of like 250 ish i'm curious how did your parents

00:38:46.460 let you take tests at 14 they didn't they would take it away all the time how did you get it um

00:38:51.240 I would just order it to the post office general delivery

00:38:54.380 or I would just snipe the package.

00:38:58.140 Do you know?

00:38:59.700 How did you find out about testosterone as a 14-year-old?

00:39:05.040 I was watching Rich Piana.

00:39:07.220 I was doing a lot of research on forums

00:39:11.520 and just a lot of bodybuilding communities.

00:39:16.580 and do you feel now at 20 do you feel good about the decision having started test at 14

00:39:26.940 yeah um but test is really not the greatest thing for puberty maxing it's more so like the hgh

00:39:34.540 um you know aromatase inhibitors things like that that are going to allow you to have more success

00:39:40.660 so testosterone's not something that most people are going to benefit from because it aromatizes

00:39:47.160 into estrogen right and that causes your growth plates to fuse if you're not super careful now

00:39:52.560 thankfully i was um you know and testosterone does give you a good amount of dimorphism if

00:39:59.460 you're taking it from early on but like i said uh if you stunt your growth from it then you know

00:40:05.500 there's really no point are your parents tall um not overly tall are you taller than both of them

00:40:12.700 i think i'm about an inch taller than my dad an inch or two taller and my mom is 5'4 and do you

00:40:19.200 have siblings yeah are you like your siblings um i would say my sister's reasonably tall for a girl

00:40:28.980 Oh, she's 5'7".

00:40:29.680 So I meant like more just like personality.

00:40:33.800 Oh.

00:40:35.560 Well, my sister's a fair bit younger than me.

00:40:38.780 So I remember like myself at her age and now,

00:40:43.980 and there's still a lot of change.

00:40:46.920 So it's just hard to say.

00:40:48.320 I think it's interesting.

00:40:49.840 Like is the relationship between you and your parents solid at the moment?

00:40:57.740 Never really is.

00:40:58.980 really it's never great what's the core obstacle um just me kind of not really ever able to be

00:41:09.280 controlled or anything like that but you're an adult now technically well they still don't want

00:41:16.220 to really accept that you know well i mean dude when you were 20 i mean i don't know i don't so

00:41:22.180 when i when i moved to la my parents kind of my parents were like yeah he's like he's doing his

00:41:26.440 own thing they're still trying to like i i saw a clip of your dad canceling your sim card or

00:41:32.200 that's been quite annoying yeah that was real yeah that was real you're on your own account now

00:41:36.940 uh well he won't release my number so well how do you text people and stuff i have to go on a 0.81

00:41:43.260 hot spot no fucking way bro yeah i'm still i'm still that guy this is crazy i'm still the yeah

00:41:48.180 this this yeah wait so you gotta get your own you gotta get your own it's not even about like 0.98

00:41:52.820 the money i'm like whatever like i'll send you like the next 10 years with the payments

00:41:56.260 like just turn the turn the phone back on bro that's crazy yeah it was because like um i was 0.75

00:42:04.140 doing a deal and he was like texting me like all this shit like oh make sure your lawyers review 0.98

00:42:10.320 it and i'm like do you really think like i'm an idiot like i i got here for no reason um and he 0.97

00:42:16.580 just got all mad because like you know i guess i kind of passed him up in a lot of regards 0.96

00:42:22.240 at an early age you pass maxed your dad pass maxed oh dude he's not letting that one slide

00:42:28.860 that was no good he didn't like that you passed him up you said it beyond father

00:42:34.540 you don't have to like add max to everything i'm so sorry we've been doing it we add it to

00:42:41.220 everything no no you can't you can't add it to every word we do no trust max doesn't really

00:42:47.960 because you can't

00:42:49.080 trust me bro

00:42:50.900 you can trust Max that

00:42:52.060 okay

00:42:54.960 I'm sorry

00:42:56.460 give it a few years

00:42:58.500 what you said earlier is right

00:43:01.740 it's impressive how it's made it's way into culture

00:43:03.820 I wonder if it stays

00:43:05.640 I think

00:43:07.180 most definitely

00:43:09.040 the words like jester

00:43:10.900 I would say

00:43:13.100 that's obviously not a word

00:43:15.220 I came up with

00:43:16.280 or jester maxing

00:43:17.780 but they're so good that people just love using them it was it's very good i wanted i wanted to

00:43:24.000 sorry sorry not to interrupt you much but i did interrupt max you said

00:43:28.860 you know the relationship with your parents is never really good i have a sentence here on the

00:43:35.400 pdf that says that they used to hide the hammers around the house yes it would stop smashing your

00:43:40.620 face yep you did bone smash as a youth yes that wasn't that that's not like a joke you actually

00:43:47.420 took a hammer to your face to shape your jawbone yeah what's on youtube did it work yeah um it's

00:43:54.720 just hard to exactly pinpoint uh what percentage came from taking tests or what percentage came

00:44:02.820 from bone smashing or just regular puberty uh so that i couldn't answer but you know we have

00:44:09.420 uh you know the reference to wolf's law so you know the theory makes sense you know did your

00:44:17.500 parents really have to hide the hammers around the house they did that was not a joke how many

00:44:22.500 hammers were there i would say probably did it like three or four times so i had to switch to

00:44:29.860 this baseball trophy um which is a pretty famous prop i've still been looking for it because

00:44:35.200 everyone's been wanting me to find that souvenir i don't know if you guys have seen that video

00:44:40.040 no but if you find it logan will probably buy i'll buy i'm a collector nice um but yeah no so

00:44:46.120 i had to switch to a different tool and that was like the common theme growing up is like my

00:44:50.080 parents would always try to stop me from doing things and i would always become vindicated every

00:44:55.300 single time i would decide to go down a course of action if you walked in okay let's first of all

00:45:04.560 Right now, there's some rumors out there

00:45:06.920 that you're potentially an expectant father.

00:45:09.900 Is that true?

00:45:11.200 No comment.

00:45:12.000 Okay.

00:45:14.140 If you walked, and I want to talk,

00:45:15.960 I need to actually ask you about HCG as well.

00:45:18.720 By the way, all those questions are related to my own life.

00:45:20.780 That's why I'm asking you about them.

00:45:22.380 If you walked in on your daughter, okay,

00:45:25.660 and she was 12 years old,

00:45:28.040 and she had been watching Clavicular on TikTok,

00:45:32.760 learning about bone smashing,

00:45:34.560 and she had a ball-peen hammer in her hand.

00:45:37.860 As a parent, would you take that hammer from her?

00:45:42.640 Well, if a girl was look-smaxing, I would say to her,

00:45:49.220 we live in a very favorable society towards women,

00:45:52.520 and some beta-boxer will still take care of you.

00:45:57.500 Like, you don't really need to be doing it.

00:45:59.240 Beta what?

00:45:59.680 Beta-boxer.

00:46:00.920 Beta-boxer?

00:46:02.300 Yeah.

00:46:03.760 Can you explain that?

00:46:04.220 Yeah, I'm going to need that definition, unfortunately. 0.96

00:46:05.920 So beta boxer is like someone who basically gets girls by being a simp and like just, you know, being rich, but they're ugly.

00:46:16.600 So basically what I'm saying is there's going to be someone in this dating market who's desperate enough for just about any girl.

00:46:25.520 So the burden for women to Lux Max is a lot lower.

00:46:29.340 okay so

00:46:30.640 that's

00:46:32.780 that's an insane thing to say to your daughter

00:46:35.340 don't worry honey there's someone

00:46:37.120 desperate enough out there for you

00:46:38.620 well I wouldn't obviously say that

00:46:40.300 so how would you 0.99

00:46:42.080 she's fucking her 0.99

00:46:45.220 face up with this hammer bro do you let it 1.00

00:46:47.300 slide no

00:46:48.740 that's the thing I said before right is

00:46:51.140 a lot of people won't

00:46:53.000 actually like understand

00:46:54.940 the nuance of things like how

00:46:56.740 you need to brace your head

00:46:58.480 to avoid CTE.

00:47:00.880 She's doing it perfectly.

00:47:02.060 She's an expert.

00:47:03.560 I don't really see that as being the case

00:47:06.260 because you don't understand

00:47:07.260 the amount of research

00:47:09.720 and the amount of time

00:47:11.060 actually spent towards

00:47:12.680 having somewhat of an understanding

00:47:15.780 of these things from an early age.

00:47:18.160 There's a missing link

00:47:19.780 in the Clav story

00:47:20.960 that I've discovered

00:47:22.420 in this conversation.

00:47:24.380 He's smart.

00:47:25.900 You are a smart person.

00:47:27.180 but i don't i don't think i don't think people think that you you you you are scientifically 0.98

00:47:32.480 approaching all of this shit bro even when i asked them what my what my look was i felt like i was 0.96

00:47:38.180 like apple retina getting scanned like that you're you're an intelligent person and you're you're 0.98

00:47:43.440 applying your intelligence in an interesting way yeah um because i really just felt like my entire

00:47:50.040 life it was what was missing from the manosphere discussion uh so you know all the brain

00:47:58.340 no i mean that has been missing for sure like they're missing a smart a smart person like this

00:48:05.160 key picture where they'd have like the pickup artists and they'd have the just go to the gym

00:48:10.640 bro or just be confident bro but no one was acknowledging this huge elephant in the room

00:48:16.660 which was looks really do matter and that's kind of why when i came about and started you know

00:48:23.440 spreading this narrative people were like oh yeah that like that actually does resonate and we've

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00:50:38.360 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:50:41.480 No, no, no.

00:50:42.140 I mean, like.

00:50:42.660 I can't even get on the C list.

00:50:43.620 Like, I'm not even average.

00:50:44.460 I'm not even passing.

00:50:45.420 I'm failing.

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00:50:57.480 One of the issues that I think that you've been up against in the public sentiment towards you,

00:51:04.240 especially on discussions around hitting yourself with a hammer or responsibly

00:51:08.980 doing meth like is well,

00:51:13.260 you're smart.

00:51:14.300 The people that you're talking to might not be.

00:51:17.700 And so do you feel a certain level?

00:51:21.240 Do you understand that sentiment?

00:51:23.940 And do you feel a certain amount of personal response,

00:51:27.020 a personal responsibility as you promote a message like that to someone who

00:51:30.840 might not have studied Wolf's law?

00:51:33.660 you know you know what i'm saying and it's just in the toolbox of their father's garage oh this

00:51:39.840 is a nice hammer maybe i could look like clav one day like do you understand that well yeah and and

00:51:44.100 that's exactly what i i keep going back to is you know people aren't going to get it they're not

00:51:48.240 going to do the research i did uh so my message is like looks matter and self-improvement is a

00:51:53.640 good way to uh improve your quality of life uh it's not you know go do math right i would always

00:52:00.380 advocate against people taking even prescription stimulants, uh, or drugs of any kind. Like if

00:52:06.660 it's my serious, uh, you know, long form setting interviews like this one, um, I would never tell

00:52:13.540 people to do, you know, testosterone at 14 years old. I'm just simply stating the things that I

00:52:18.740 did. That, that is an incredible fucking it to your point of what you're just, do you know how 0.96

00:52:24.180 many cosmonauts there have been before you in the space? Timothy Leary, like people that did things 0.97

00:52:30.300 as a as an experimentation to oneself not as an endorsement to those viewing it does that make

00:52:38.400 sense and so yeah that makes a ton of sense as long as the caveat and the precursor to that

00:52:47.100 discussion is there and so i yeah it's it's you you definitely are a very smart person do you let

00:52:54.880 me ask you a question do you have any like are you on like the spectrum um yeah i'm neurodivergent

00:53:05.680 okay and that's a broad term which means basically that you are atypical correct

00:53:13.900 neurologically so what so what okay can you narrow it down at all from there

00:53:18.660 have you ever had a diagnosis no not professionally okay

00:53:22.840 i don't really have a reason to ask that i was just i was just genuinely curious because you

00:53:29.420 you had he does have like a very intriguing approach and and style of dialogue no yeah you

00:53:38.640 you're uh you're an incredibly unique individual thank you you're an incredibly unique individual

00:53:46.720 i even i even think like i mean i even if even if someone like did know how to bone smash for

00:53:51.060 example i don't even know how many people would would do it because i'm sure it was painful

00:53:58.500 yeah and then like the you know the brutal part about it was i used to just always have to go

00:54:06.720 into work the next day and i'd be you know pretty swollen but um i would never really

00:54:15.980 bothered to go out of my way to come up with like a story or like a cover-up like if i got in a

00:54:21.460 fight or something i would just be pretty honest about it like i was bone smashing and then you

00:54:26.780 know all my co-workers thought it was pretty weird because this was like uh before all this

00:54:31.760 stuff became mainstream so um it's still pretty weird like if like if anybody can't like as a

00:54:39.680 once again as a as a document to yourself i get it but if uh if somebody if one of my friends

00:54:48.500 came in and i was like hey man how'd your face get like that and they were like oh i was bone

00:54:51.740 smashing with a hammer earlier today do you know what i'm saying like calling it mainstream would

00:54:57.160 be a bit of a stretch i wonder if you have to do it if you're gonna do it while you're maturing

00:55:02.160 and your face is still forming um that's an interesting one because you kind of you kind

00:55:09.620 of guinea pigged yourself you're like like you're you're sort of your own experiment you're

00:55:15.160 learning in real time and you did all this stuff on yourself and i think you fall within like a

00:55:20.440 very small percentile of people that would do this yeah um because what i was trying to do

00:55:28.440 was I was trying to think of another way to you know be able to succeed in the dating market

00:55:34.560 outside of um being charismatic or you know whatever money maxing whatever because I saw

00:55:43.960 it as completely unrealistic for me who at the time in high school really was not a social person

00:55:50.660 at all to you know be able to to talk to girls and like uh have game and all this kind of stuff

00:55:58.320 i was like well it makes a lot more sense uh to looks max as a way to you you definitely you

00:56:05.460 definitely it appears at least from your streams you have game now i see i see i see i mean

00:56:10.700 i mean i don't know but i saw a video of you kissing a mom and then kissing her daughter

00:56:16.160 yeah i just you know this is insane to see well usually i do the best when i say the least so

00:56:23.520 oh so you don't have games what you're saying no not at all like a lot of people come and and

00:56:29.820 lie or you know they'll joke around with their friends like oh i got the best game

00:56:33.520 it's like i have probably the worst oh no way dude dude that's crazy that's crazy no because

00:56:40.120 you know because you say your game is is very um straightforward right which i think which i think

00:56:50.320 is it's intentional yeah um because the way that i always thought about it was like i see people

00:56:57.440 having these conversations uh back and forth at a bar and it'll be like an interview process where

00:57:04.000 the guy's just like asking all these stupid questions and it'll be like this back and forth 0.97

00:57:09.500 but really after all that's said and done after that five or ten minutes is that going to change 1.00

00:57:15.200 the answer to the key question of is this girl sexually attracted to me uh and the answer is no

00:57:22.240 right knowing her favorite color or uh where she works uh it really doesn't matter so i just like

00:57:29.840 to skip straight to the point and just ask if a girl wants to have sex is that your approach he

00:57:35.960 does it all the time yeah it's how many of them are instant down a lot where do you get the

00:57:43.220 confidence to do that is it just your looks pre-gal one what is that it's an anti it's an

00:57:51.420 anti it's a beta blocker no no it's not anti-anxiety anti-anxiety yeah sorry oh man this is crazy dude

00:57:59.160 wait because because because if you if you're saying you don't have game but i've seen you

00:58:06.060 approach i'm not i'm low inhibition yeah but that's like i have no uh issues with approaching

00:58:12.660 or starting conversations i just really don't know what to say most of the time but like yeah

00:58:19.020 i've got no problem being low inhib and i think it helps me because like it just makes so much

00:58:24.780 sense to me in my head that this is the best way to go about the situation that i'm like why wouldn't

00:58:30.880 i do this you know would you say you're afraid of rejection no don't care no not at all how come

00:58:37.380 um well i mean i've gotten rejected probably live on stream like at least 5 000 times at this point

00:58:47.320 so it's fine and it's like i know in my head that people spamming in the chat like oh l l game it's

00:58:55.000 like they never go up to girls regardless so it's like yeah maybe like i'll get rejected by like a

00:59:01.480 couple girls uh for every couple to hit but it's like that's totally fine with me you know it almost

00:59:07.340 keeps you in check because i could play things completely sheltered and only like respond to

00:59:13.180 girls in my dm requests and have a hundred percent guaranteed chance but i think that kind of gets

00:59:19.100 your head too big uh and doesn't keep you in reality whereas like i'm actually doing irl

00:59:24.220 streams where i'm like even sometimes like i'll go out like larping as a civilian with like a

00:59:29.720 samsung so not like the big camera just to like see the results so it gives you a good idea of

00:59:36.120 where you are without you know the status and money aspect also bro larping as a civilian with

00:59:42.700 the samsung is it's just a wild sentence this is just like bro i'm so entertained i just i just i

00:59:48.820 do agree with you that they just dude the same for the flip phone no like uh s25 sheesh green 0.93

00:59:58.840 messages type shit yeah green balls to stream yeah oh i do i do agree with you that i just 0.88

01:00:07.380 meant going out with the samsung okay i can see how that would be yeah yeah green messages are 0.99

01:00:13.120 tough they work for some people i mean but not everyone else it's an automatic like problem

01:00:19.320 yeah it's like when you get that girl and she did like unless they're international like

01:00:23.220 occasionally they'll get like a couple norwegians oh yeah that have it or like somebody from south

01:00:28.000 korea or something like that but if you get a a real u.s or uk person and they and and they have

01:00:35.000 a no the samsung sale is very yeah very brutal no no uh cleb are you familiar with polymarket

01:00:41.740 yes polymarket yeah i speak so so markets on everything trade on everything right polymarket

01:00:47.980 are you familiar do you know there's a lot of polymarkets on you i do can i read you some of

01:00:53.980 the polymarket headlines and you tell me what percentage chance you think these are sure okay

01:00:58.500 by the way people are putting their money on on this well i pretty much know all them so let's

01:01:03.880 see let's see let's see if you know the percentages right yeah glavicular sentence to prison 41 13

01:01:10.740 okay it dropped dramatically over the past it looks like there's a huge 30 chance that i do

01:01:17.740 13 chance you're sentenced to prison okay traders believe in you buddy nice

01:01:23.880 Clavicular pregnancy in 2026.

01:01:26.320 Isn't that like over 90?

01:01:27.900 99% chance.

01:01:30.220 Should we buy no?

01:01:31.520 No comment.

01:01:33.380 Tried, guys.

01:01:34.600 There's $18.5 million in volume on the pregnancy one.

01:01:38.120 That's the highest one.

01:01:39.640 That's insane, dude.

01:01:41.500 I'm pretty sure that mogged like any NBA event ever or anything.

01:01:45.600 People's sexiest man alive.

01:01:47.860 Clavicular wins.

01:01:51.040 5%?

01:01:52.200 3% chance.

01:01:53.140 Nice.

01:01:53.540 okay that's actually sick yeah i remember i saw some of these but i didn't know the percentages

01:01:59.340 but keep in mind like travis kelsey it was only at seven is there anybody on there that's in

01:02:03.860 double digits yeah oh there is yeah no no no oh who is it yeah i mean timothy chalamet is at 13

01:02:10.560 i mean you're not they're not that far behind what do you what do you rank timothy chalamet

01:02:14.900 um hmm i would say like probably also around 6.25 6.5 somewhere and and his smv

01:02:27.900 pretty high and then okay so who he's only gonna get girls that are on like birth control though

01:02:34.860 uh wait hold on a second birth control you're attracted to more feminine features explain that

01:02:42.240 is that yeah that's true so if you're constantly pulling women and this is what i would always do

01:02:48.140 um just like to gauge my dimorphism was see if a girl was uh prescribed birth control

01:02:54.860 to see if i was like you know cocked in any way um so yeah if you're if you're usually pulling

01:03:01.780 girls that are on that's not a good sign but it's margin that's a way but i'm margin i'm sorry i'm

01:03:07.280 No, it's legit.

01:03:08.080 It's very legit.

01:03:08.500 No, but marginal.

01:03:09.460 No, legit.

01:03:10.660 Women on birth control are more attracted to feminine men is what you're saying?

01:03:15.320 Yes, correct.

01:03:16.600 Because they're taking their E.

01:03:18.520 And women with higher estrogen are attracted to more masculine-looking faces.

01:03:23.580 Yes.

01:03:24.820 But attracted to from a, I don't want to use the term visceral,

01:03:32.260 attracted to from a sexual dynamic.

01:03:34.540 but as you know who women choose in long-term partners is negative is less than 0.1 sexually

01:03:44.240 based women are emotional beings and they they they're they're they base their long-term

01:03:48.580 partnerships on you know like likelihood of producing a safe environment for a family and

01:03:56.800 x y and z well if that initial attraction is never met like they're never going to have a

01:04:01.880 gauge on those other traits right so it's certainly the most important one you've heard the chaos now

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01:05:52.920 I hate that job.

01:05:53.820 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy

01:05:55.380 and he's going to whisk you away

01:05:56.520 and I'll never see you again.

01:05:59.060 Well, this is awkward.

01:06:00.720 Would you say a D-list actor?

01:06:02.520 D?

01:06:04.500 I don't even know.

01:06:05.280 There's such a thing as D.

01:06:06.320 No, no, no.

01:06:06.980 I mean, like...

01:06:07.520 I can't even get on the C-list?

01:06:08.420 Like, I'm not even average?

01:06:09.280 I'm not even passing?

01:06:10.240 I'm failing?

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01:06:24.340 Got it.

01:06:25.380 can i ask you about the overdose yeah i think for me the craziest part about it all is that

01:06:33.740 it was live streamed it's your stream correct right and you're in charge

01:06:41.140 is when does real life become more important than the stream if ever well i mean i don't really

01:06:51.640 think of of the stream too much when we're doing it because um a lot of the times it'll be stuff

01:07:00.200 that you know me and my buddies were doing just before we we started it and then we're just like

01:07:07.460 okay we'll put this on kick because people liked me going on other people's so it was just

01:07:13.100 I guess it was like a very easy transition like I wasn't like uh you know okay now I'm streaming

01:07:20.480 like now i have to start going to bars and like doing all this craziness it's like yeah we're

01:07:24.580 just doing that off camera um but for that that was a little bit misunderstood that's not like

01:07:33.740 a traditional overdose that was just me passing out really in just the same way that you would

01:07:38.780 from drinking too much alcohol was that experience a wake-up call at all for you yeah no absolutely

01:07:43.480 I mean, I haven't taken a drug since.

01:07:46.240 The challenge, I think, will be either staying that way, sober,

01:07:51.980 or developing a healthy relationship with alcohol.

01:07:56.800 How do you feel on that?

01:07:58.760 I will never really drink because it's just so toxic

01:08:03.480 and disrupts a lot of your different growth pathways to such an extent

01:08:08.920 that i could never really drink uh like even if i could have no problem at all with uh you know

01:08:18.460 the occasional drink which i really don't i've never really had a drinking issue it's it was

01:08:23.420 more stimulants that was you know something i was overdoing um but yeah it's really just like

01:08:30.720 me considering what alcohol really is it's ethanol it's a complete poison that you're

01:08:36.520 ingesting so i just wouldn't do it plus it i don't think it helps the way you look either

01:08:41.460 if we're looks maxing you know it's like it's got a lot of calories it descends you yeah it's very

01:08:45.700 bad what about people and what what do you say to or think about people who don't 0.98

01:08:53.500 care about any of this shit they're just free-spirited people that are out on an adventure 1.00

01:09:01.380 enjoying life smiling even though they're fat or stupid or bald or whatever well i mean i'm 1.00

01:09:11.080 not here trying to like do some populist rally where it's like we all need a looks max guys it's 1.00

01:09:18.200 like if you don't want to do any of this stuff then i don't give a shit like that that doesn't 0.99

01:09:23.740 affect me at all you know so uh if if someone has that sentiment they think looks maxing stupid it's 0.98

01:09:30.300 not something they would ever do, then so be it. Do you feel compelled to push your beliefs on any 0.66

01:09:37.680 topics on anyone? Like, like, are you, are you outspoken on like issues regarding like trans

01:09:45.180 people or anything like that? No. Um, I wouldn't say so. I don't, I don't really have an opinion

01:09:52.240 on transgenders um like homosexuals it's just not really something that benefits um me in any way

01:10:03.060 to to have a an opinion on it's just i don't care because it's not relevant to looks maxing

01:10:10.060 oh okay that's a that's an because you because i know you once said that politics

01:10:15.980 are jester are jester to you yeah not not to me they're they are so okay so i i agree with you

01:10:26.420 to an extent i think people spend a lot of time talking about things that they cannot control

01:10:31.620 okay and one of the things i learned in recovery when i got clean was the serenity prayer

01:10:35.520 which was the asking god for the courage to change the things that you can about yourself and to

01:10:41.100 you know be at peace basically with the things that you can't right and so i i tend to agree

01:10:49.880 with you there on a lot of those topics but people are angry they spend their whole day on twitter 0.61

01:10:55.580 tweeting correct about shit well that's what i mean it's like if you're gonna spend six hours 0.81

01:11:00.660 dedicating uh your time to like listening to an x base uh from like some political jester 0.98

01:11:08.800 versus listening to like, you know, maybe, uh, more plates, more dates video or a Leon longevity

01:11:17.360 video. That just seems like an outrageous waste of time to me. Um, so yeah, that that's benefiting

01:11:23.740 you in no way. So I only really do things out of self-interest, uh, and there's, there's no

01:11:29.260 self-interest in politics. So you're so blunt and, and like strangely aware for your age of like

01:11:37.360 these different characteristics about yourself and and the fact that you're able to like with

01:11:42.220 a straight face and this is i guess going back to what i've mentioned about when i asked you about

01:11:46.540 the spectrum situation to with such a straight face to say that you're interested in self

01:11:50.940 preservation or self-interest is it's just interesting it's just it's interesting i mean

01:11:57.340 did you did you happen to see the mr beast um query on twitter about the red button blue button

01:12:02.340 um no I didn't

01:12:05.160 don't

01:12:06.220 stop it's not that interesting

01:12:08.840 it's not that interesting

01:12:10.020 I let it slide on boys only bro

01:12:11.960 it's just so confusing 0.94

01:12:14.900 and silly

01:12:15.440 now I'm a little 0.67

01:12:17.020 I think him answering it is pretty interesting

01:12:20.280 alright run it

01:12:21.580 oh is it something about like

01:12:22.940 would you save

01:12:24.680 sure go for it

01:12:27.240 okay everyone on earth

01:12:29.600 takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue

01:12:31.800 button if more than 50 of people press the blue button everyone survives if less than 50 of people

01:12:40.240 press the blue button only people who press the red button survive which button would you press

01:12:47.240 now we had to hear this or read this about six to eight times i'm gonna be honest something tells

01:12:52.920 me you already understand the question have fully analyzed the question and have already identified

01:12:58.360 Well, I already knew my answer before you asked it. 0.98

01:13:00.820 Damn, that is impressive. 0.99

01:13:02.820 I kind of already knew. 0.99

01:13:04.280 I mean, yeah, I'd choose the one that's pro self-preservation, you know?

01:13:09.780 And I think people, you know, say how horrible that is, whatever.

01:13:14.880 But I would say it's almost more horrible to just be completely disingenuous with everything that you say and do.

01:13:22.840 And when it comes down to it, completely switch up.

01:13:25.760 Like, at least people know where I'm at.

01:13:27.320 You know what?

01:13:27.840 Yeah, go ahead.

01:13:28.240 I was just saying, you know what's crazy about that as well?

01:13:30.760 Everyone who pressed the, if the red one,

01:13:33.260 everyone who pressed the blue button,

01:13:37.220 people who weren't only self-interested would die. 0.96

01:13:41.320 You'd basically kill all the great, all the people with like empathy

01:13:44.240 and who cared about their neighbor.

01:13:47.360 Yes, but his statement right now is another interesting one

01:13:52.400 that we didn't talk about last week,

01:13:53.940 which was people who are claiming that they would.

01:13:57.340 it's easy to say this on an x like poll than it is like if this was an actually real scenario

01:14:03.740 okay so so what i gather from the answer and why you were able to you knew the answer before you

01:14:09.180 even asked the question is it seems like you know your why like your individual who you are in life

01:14:15.500 your why really well well i just yeah and i also know human nature right which is to to lie uh and

01:14:22.900 to you know choose the easy route and things but i but okay so i hear you but i also

01:14:29.300 but i also it's just ignorant faith in humanity okay but but at least i i do believe that there

01:14:38.280 are people who genuinely would press the blue button does that make sense because because 0.64

01:14:44.540 for example because they're ignorant okay what about someone who i gave a second example and

01:14:53.060 this i'll keep this one short but like what about someone who decides to run into a burning building 0.85

01:14:59.780 potentially to save someone that they don't know okay like because that they they could potentially

01:15:05.060 and they're putting their life at risk they're ignoring self-preservation but they're genuinely

01:15:09.600 doing it because they feel like they might be able to save someone's life well i think that would be

01:15:13.940 more virtuous because it's more predictable um okay whereas this is um okay let me as you know

01:15:24.040 maybe as a a father of of three uh go into this room and and press this blue button that doesn't

01:15:31.600 even guarantee uh my survival and me being there for my children let me just you know put a blind

01:15:39.120 faith in humanity

01:15:41.440 that random people across

01:15:43.460 the globe will do the same

01:15:45.320 that's irresponsible

01:15:46.660 what if you knew

01:15:49.180 that

01:15:49.900 your three children had to also

01:15:53.340 go in and push the button

01:15:54.400 um

01:15:56.300 well I mean it just depends on how you raise them

01:15:59.400 really

01:15:59.860 one of them is a toddler

01:16:02.740 hmm yeah see there were

01:16:05.140 there were some parts to the question

01:16:07.300 that Jimmy didn't put out there.

01:16:11.860 But, I mean.

01:16:12.280 Wait, I'm sorry.

01:16:13.020 Yep.

01:16:14.040 If you press the red button,

01:16:15.500 you guarantee your survival.

01:16:16.400 You will live immediately.

01:16:19.000 But.

01:16:19.280 Wait, wait, wait.

01:16:19.820 But then the people

01:16:20.760 who press the blue button die?

01:16:22.220 If enough people think

01:16:24.620 in the way that you are

01:16:25.800 in a self-preservation.

01:16:27.120 What if everyone just

01:16:27.800 presses the red button?

01:16:29.040 Everyone lives?

01:16:29.780 Well, yes.

01:16:30.320 Everyone lives.

01:16:31.000 Yes.

01:16:31.480 So that's the option.

01:16:35.300 Yes, so.

01:16:36.240 I told you, like,

01:16:36.920 Red is you don't die

01:16:40.820 The zero risk

01:16:41.580 And if everyone presses everyone lives

01:16:43.240 So one person is going to press the blue button 0.98

01:16:45.520 Damn it would have been fried 0.98

01:16:46.700 Well keep in mind though 0.99

01:16:49.400 Then you're

01:16:49.960 One coper

01:16:51.940 Well blue one

01:16:54.780 The poll

01:16:55.520 You blew one on social media though

01:16:58.360 Correct

01:16:59.200 I agree with you completely

01:17:01.840 It's a very interesting thought experiment

01:17:05.440 What's your favorite meal?

01:17:06.920 um probably a burger no way with or without cheese no cheese on it no cheese no just a burger

01:17:16.900 yep why no cheese well i'm on this medication um called selegiline okay m sim uh and just the

01:17:25.840 way that the cheese breaks down uh it wouldn't be a very good interaction with this what say you

01:17:31.720 on cheeseburger versus burger so there's a burger in vegas in vegas

01:17:38.540 if if if looks maxing is your goal and you have found that cheese is anti looks maxing or look

01:17:50.020 would be looks minning then that this is this is a very like creative way of saying something that

01:17:56.400 people i avoid cheese for x reason there's a lot of people avoid cheese people it's also disgusting

01:18:00.600 like whoa whoa whoa now you've now you've hit a nerve okay so i personally love cheese but i

01:18:09.520 this is a good question how much how much uh at your young age have you took into taken into

01:18:18.540 consideration subjectivity and the idea that people can think very differently than you

01:18:24.960 Well, I realize that people can think very differently and also very wrong.

01:18:29.980 But, you know, because cheese is just a useless addition to the burger.

01:18:36.640 It serves you no benefit other than just adding dietary fat.

01:18:41.360 Do you have anything else on your burger?

01:18:43.380 No.

01:18:44.120 So I'm talking about a bun, patty, bun.

01:18:48.260 And ketchup.

01:18:49.160 That's it.

01:18:49.980 Okay, so how about this question?

01:18:51.480 So why do you like a burger which has potentially more empty calories than a food that is better for you?

01:19:02.020 What do you mean by empty calories?

01:19:03.960 Do you have it on a bun?

01:19:05.780 Yeah.

01:19:07.860 Do you?

01:19:08.880 I mean, there's a lot of-

01:19:10.120 It's a carbohydrate.

01:19:10.700 It's not an empty calorie.

01:19:11.720 It's a carbohydrate.

01:19:13.220 It's packed with sugar, a ton of sugar.

01:19:16.000 Sugar is a carbohydrate.

01:19:17.260 Yes.

01:19:18.240 But that's not an empty calorie.

01:19:19.520 Okay.

01:19:19.920 and it really isn't that packed with sugar a burger bun it should have it probably has a

01:19:24.140 tremendous amount of sugar in it dude not really that much really and i guess what i guess my

01:19:29.880 question is why not just eat a steak well because um you know when i'm streaming out and about

01:19:38.040 it's fast food right you get something in and out it's quick um it's accessible there's not

01:19:43.760 a place in the world really that you can go where there isn't a mcdonald's or a burger king

01:19:48.640 within two miles of you it's like i pull up my phone to look what fast food earlier was around

01:19:53.860 burger king and mcdonald's like literally uh you know 0.2 miles away when we were driving and i

01:20:00.380 happened to look it up why not why not like a chipotle burrito uh well that's a little bit

01:20:06.320 less convenient i would say like that's an actually sit down thing uh chipotle is less

01:20:12.000 reliable burger king just really never lets you down that's your thing is burger king yeah and

01:20:18.000 also, Chipotle's too spicy.

01:20:20.820 What about

01:20:21.680 what say you of Wendy's?

01:20:24.540 Horrible.

01:20:27.500 You don't like spice? No.

01:20:29.660 Do you like ice spice? I don't like seasoning.

01:20:32.240 Ice spice. No seasoning

01:20:33.920 for me. Ice spice.

01:20:35.580 What about her? Do you like her?

01:20:38.220 Oh, that Wendy's

01:20:39.880 blows. Not particularly.

01:20:41.700 I mean, like, I don't dislike her, but

01:20:43.540 what about Tate McRae?

01:20:46.640 Who's that?

01:20:48.000 She sings, um, uh, what about Sabrina Carpenter?

01:20:56.140 I don't know who that is.

01:20:59.260 Who's the top moggers out there?

01:21:02.440 Top mogger.

01:21:03.540 Top mogger?

01:21:05.620 Oof.

01:21:06.860 Probably Tyler Mayer.

01:21:12.000 Hold on a second.

01:21:18.000 bodybuilder no fitness coach um just fitness this guy no it's he probably spelled it wrong

01:21:27.540 this guy yeah oh oh with an h oh he's so tyler mayer's top mogger yeah this guy moggs

01:21:36.260 yeah yeah when you walk the runway how was that that was um pretty cool i would say i knew there

01:21:45.740 was going to be a lot of media from that so um i was pretty hyped you know i knew the clips would

01:21:52.320 would bang nervous at all no i was on a lot of propranolol so uh i wasn't really too nervous

01:22:01.580 about it and also the people in you know the whole modeling industry are mostly kind of cocked so

01:22:08.540 like they'll be i don't know it's it's a strange scene if you get what i mean it's like there's

01:22:15.040 something like really off about the people there what do you think what are you saying 0.93

01:22:18.900 like what do you what did you feel like these people have been through some shit 0.77

01:22:23.760 wait really i've not been to a walk you mean the designers the photographers like all of them

01:22:31.160 yeah like it's a strange world you're like yeah you're like something's going on here

01:22:36.420 what's going on yeah yeah i don't know man i don't disagree i don't disagree with you

01:22:41.760 by the way when drake said clav has a micro why and also does he that was just something that

01:22:51.260 someone else typed on his account um and no not micro i i've been doing pe for a while 0.98

01:22:59.760 so what is pe penis enhancement what does that look like asking for what does it look like yeah 0.99

01:23:06.340 So like pumping, shopping bag, hanging, stretching, that kind of stuff. 0.99

01:23:12.340 Shopping bag, hanging, stretching?

01:23:14.080 Can you elaborate?

01:23:15.660 Do you have a shopping bag or?

01:23:20.200 We can all visualize.

01:23:22.440 No, that sandbag would work.

01:23:25.880 No, because it's the counterweight for that light.

01:23:28.720 So basically what you're doing is just wrapping it around your wrist.

01:23:32.720 You could put book bags in it

01:23:35.880 Whatever weights

01:23:36.740 Yeah, here you go

01:23:38.560 Yeah, that's a shopping bag

01:23:40.140 Perfect

01:23:40.720 So you just put stuff in here

01:23:45.540 It's various items

01:23:46.860 And you wrap it around your wrists

01:23:49.800 Like this

01:23:51.700 And then you're basically holding on

01:23:53.960 To your suspensory ligament

01:23:56.320 And stretching

01:23:57.100 Suspensory ligament? 0.99

01:23:59.120 Penis 0.99

01:23:59.760 Well, that's what you're stretching 0.99

01:24:02.060 but yeah you're holding on to your shaft well it's well stretching this well it's flaccid

01:24:06.900 yeah so i do this while i was driving your commitment to the game is admirable

01:24:13.760 well it's important did you see improvement yeah so the problem with that is um you know

01:24:22.080 your erection angle will lower a little bit but mine was already above the ideal so yeah 0.98

01:24:28.280 so it wasn't a problem would that be considered penis maxing yeah how is your i was just i was 0.97

01:24:39.020 just like chilling here so used to it yeah yeah i'll like how given all given the current stack 0.97

01:24:46.620 how's how's the old ball and chains working these days good good so i thought for a while that um 0.99

01:24:54.780 you know it was it was over um you know because i was taking tadalafil i was taking the dick 0.98

01:25:02.060 injections oh you went all the way up to the injections yeah well those were mostly for fun 0.97

01:25:07.920 because i realized that like there's a level of confidence gained when you're cold approaching

01:25:13.780 with a boner so are you serious yeah i i definitely that's what the wildest the fact

01:25:22.580 they're able to say it so straight-faced is mind-blowing but i agree with you wait what i

01:25:30.320 do agree with them cold not maybe not a boner or how about a semi no no you're talking about a full 1.00

01:25:37.040 fucking boner dude yes like the girls can sense it yeah it's like some primal shit it's like a 0.99

01:25:44.100 boner pheromone this is above me this is above me this is crazy okay so you see for me i was 0.99

01:25:50.820 i have a job i probably like i don't know sometimes i say too much but like i was always

01:25:57.160 like i went with the waistband tuck yeah yeah no no i'm not thinking about just like

01:26:01.560 that would definitely be no but still from so but it like shows up like i right right right no but 0.95

01:26:07.440 like only if someone's looking for it yeah but then is the girl like why the fuck is this guy

01:26:12.820 rock hard we're at a mall that's probably a sign of vitality yeah it's just like a sign of

01:26:18.020 and to be completely honest with you if you're the right guy they're probably kind of 0.99

01:26:23.080 you're the wrong guy you're probably yeah then you're fucked then you're fucked but if you're 0.96

01:26:27.700 the right guy universal advice yeah but i'd be like i don't know there's like all these like 0.99

01:26:36.060 weird like niche things and these tips and tricks that sound so ridiculous like but people cope so

01:26:43.500 hard that they'll never actually try it so how did you get how did you get back online because

01:26:49.580 there is a new kind of thing with this to now fill so then a fill um obviously you're seeing

01:26:57.120 these companies all go absolutely bonkers on revenue we're talking i don't want to name them

01:27:02.140 all because i don't think any of them are sponsoring right now right we've had every one

01:27:05.200 of them sponsor in the past one of them i was partially responsible for blowing up probably

01:27:10.040 10 years ago i could probably guess every one of these companies is going crazy with younger people

01:27:17.420 and the weird thing about it is it is it's addressing a psychological situation not in

01:27:26.140 your case because in your case you had actually created a a setting that wasn't advantageous for

01:27:31.840 boners right but for a lot of these people they're taking it for psychological reasons

01:27:36.100 at a young age and getting pornography is the reason for that right so a lot of people have

01:27:41.840 extremely bad porn addictions from an early age and that's frying their dopamine systems to the

01:27:48.380 point where the stimulation from hooking up with a girl is not enough to you know give them that

01:27:55.840 that satisfaction uh you know or get them to be aroused and that's a horrible thing so they need

01:28:02.280 to rely on things like Sildenafil, Cielos, whatever.

01:28:07.280 That's crazy.

01:28:08.260 But it is happening. 0.90

01:28:09.140 Do you ever watch porn?

01:28:10.780 Never.

01:28:12.780 Have you?

01:28:13.300 You ever watch it?

01:28:14.460 Obviously.

01:28:14.900 Yeah, I mean, obviously, like, normal teenager stuff,

01:28:18.440 like when I was 15, but not really since then.

01:28:20.440 Is that partially from a place of not having to?

01:28:25.320 Does that make sense?

01:28:26.300 I guess it becomes a kind of a what came first,

01:28:28.180 the chicken or the egg situation, right?

01:28:29.900 No, no.

01:28:30.740 it was not really anything to do with that um i would just like not really have the need to 0.58

01:28:41.420 jerk off with pornography i'd usually just do it without and then i would say by the time i was

01:28:46.660 like 17 18 years old i was being pretty consistent where it just wasn't necessary 0.98

01:28:55.800 I can assume you're sexually active, yeah?

01:28:58.320 Yeah. 0.99

01:28:59.560 Can I ask you, how important is it to you to also make the girl have an orgasm? 0.99

01:29:06.640 Not important. 0.97

01:29:10.100 How come?

01:29:11.220 Well, because, you know, the amount of extra effort that's required to do that is just not going to really have much ROI.

01:29:20.660 why so so

01:29:25.520 well it's true i mean really that means return on investment yeah so like you know you're gonna

01:29:44.160 have to spend at least an extra half hour uh more than you usually would doing some that's that's

01:29:50.260 that's not true it depends on the girl they don't just they're dude there are girls that can there

01:29:54.980 are girls that can finish especially the the cheat code there if you because let's be honest

01:30:01.160 if you're just doing one night stands it doesn't matter right but if you're if you're trying to

01:30:05.940 satisfy a partner and and maintain a long-term relationship having them enjoy the the experience

01:30:10.800 is obviously important the work around there the ultimate solution is is a vibrator dude

01:30:15.580 it completely eliminates that entire effort that's kind of like cocked in my opinion you really think

01:30:23.460 so yeah i would say so because think about it right uh now you're sitting there with some 0.98

01:30:28.880 stupid vibrator like you know what i mean like that's okay so what i'm simply saying about the 0.97

01:30:34.800 roi thing is you're telling me that there's not an activity in that you know even fit let's just 1.00

01:30:40.260 call it 15 minutes just be realistic um in that 15 minutes that you could be doing that's going to

01:30:46.820 guarantee uh a long-term relationship like that seems silly like in 15 minutes i could you know

01:30:54.120 get you know set up for to do my steak stream um i could do just a million different things

01:31:01.940 like i could take an important phone call whatever and that's just trying to think of

01:31:06.340 explanation to the girl as to why she's not

01:31:08.440 finishing it. I set up my kick stream

01:31:10.380 right now. I can't do this shit. 1.00

01:31:12.200 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:31:14.240 I can literally think of one million

01:31:16.200 better things that's going to make a girl want to be

01:31:18.420 with me in the long term rather than just

01:31:20.460 a simple fleeting

01:31:22.540 orgasm. That seems

01:31:23.840 so ridiculous. 1.00

01:31:26.140 Would you be upset if you didn't have an 1.00

01:31:28.340 orgasm? 0.99

01:31:29.980 Yeah. But it's fleeting.

01:31:33.300 Well, I mean,

01:31:34.180 like that's true but you know it's almost like a painful thing if you're just like doing like a

01:31:42.780 two minute then oh gotta go you know and i've done that before on purpose because i think there's

01:31:48.840 also like the psychological thing like if you just have sex with a girl for a couple minutes and then

01:31:54.340 go out to a bar it's something that could work uh i've tried that work how like because then you

01:32:01.800 are incentivized to complete

01:32:04.340 the rest of it with another

01:32:06.440 girl, then you just

01:32:08.140 have to do what's called a birdbath

01:32:09.960 before you go out.

01:32:12.140 What exactly is that?

01:32:14.440 Take a guess. You get in the shower

01:32:16.400 and do a body rinse. I know.

01:32:18.280 Birdbath is where you wash your dick in the sink. 1.00

01:32:21.120 Oh. 1.00

01:32:25.640 We've all done a birdbath, dude.

01:32:27.560 I just didn't know that's what it was called.

01:32:29.740 I did one yesterday.

01:32:31.800 Oh, whoa, hold on.

01:32:37.420 I've birthed bath more than I even thought about in that moment.

01:32:41.380 Yeah, for sure.

01:32:41.420 More than I've showered.

01:32:45.440 Yo, real quick.

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01:32:58.680 Let's get back to it.

01:32:59.340 now that you're a club owner that's also probably helping your nocturnal pursuits a little bit as

01:33:06.640 well yeah it's like really at the point where it's just sometimes almost too easy and i'm just like

01:33:14.240 does that scare does that scare you at all because you've seen a lot of people

01:33:18.780 go down a dark path with that and people have been very open about it in in the scene

01:33:24.040 sex became so simple and easy and replicable and non-enjoyable that they ended up switch to men 0.99

01:33:32.900 yeah yeah so um that definitely happens and you have like weird shit like what diddy 0.98

01:33:39.600 does and stuff like that um but that's why you know i'll kind of remove like some of the 0.87

01:33:47.100 advantages that i have like with the club stuff and i'll just like do regular day day game and

01:33:53.360 stuff like that to see if i can still have successes that way it's like more meaningful

01:33:58.320 can the lines can the lines still hunt right right it's more about the pursuit like being

01:34:03.960 you know difficult and then there's like a reward you know for your efforts than anything

01:34:09.880 in my opinion has ever been a girl that you've been with or desired who you were really attracted

01:34:17.340 to her personality, but maybe she was the one that got away?

01:34:28.020 I don't know.

01:34:32.380 That's a difficult one.

01:34:36.420 Do you miss anybody right now?

01:34:38.580 Are there any girls in your life that you wish were still around?

01:34:41.100 No, not really.

01:34:42.700 it's just it's kind of difficult to to say because i think just like the way that men and

01:34:51.560 women interact um just on like a you know mitigating stress level like there's a lot

01:34:58.980 of benefits to just having like a woman's presence in your life and i think those are kind of like

01:35:03.400 universal so i wouldn't really say like there's been an individual that's been better or worse

01:35:10.180 you know so not really so the the reason that you are not currently dating someone is

01:35:17.840 has nothing to do with not being able to find the right person well right now i'm dating a couple

01:35:27.040 girls actually so got a harem going on how many three soon to be four are they friends

01:35:34.660 no they don't get along

01:35:37.420 oh it's getting

01:35:39.040 better actually you'd be surprised

01:35:41.320 do you have a favorite

01:35:42.600 no you can't have a favorite

01:35:45.400 I'm sure no you can't

01:35:46.980 I bet you do though secretly

01:35:48.120 yeah but I gotta say

01:35:49.700 I gotta say it

01:35:52.260 but it was too

01:35:53.180 we'll leave that

01:35:58.280 if you want us to

01:36:00.880 we'll leave it in

01:36:01.700 Wow, so three is soon to be four.

01:36:03.840 Leave it in is crazy.

01:36:05.940 Yeah, leave it in.

01:36:06.540 So four, no, because then they'll compete.

01:36:08.960 Is that what you're trying to do? 0.99

01:36:10.020 He doesn't give a shit. 1.00

01:36:11.220 Yeah, I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:36:12.000 He doesn't incentivize. 0.99

01:36:12.720 He doesn't care.

01:36:13.460 Wait, was the up from two to three based on Dan's advice?

01:36:18.680 That was, yeah, that was definitely a part of it. 0.97

01:36:23.680 But I was kind of just on one of those days where I'm just doing random shit. 0.98

01:36:28.400 and I was like I was sitting there eating lunch and I was like fuck like I need to invite more 0.98

01:36:33.460 people to my house so I just called up a bunch of girls and the first thing I said to them was 0.96

01:36:38.100 hey do you want to come move into my house and I got actually a surprising amount of yeses

01:36:43.520 are you really going to host a competition with 500 girls and then impregnate the one who wins

01:36:48.700 uh no that was a meme 500 is a little too much yeah that maybe like I did I got click rated

01:36:55.380 i was thinking about like having like 20 girls like come and do challenges but i haven't thought

01:37:02.140 of the challenges yet well shouldn't the challenges be related to motherhood oh that's

01:37:06.580 interesting oh yeah that's true that's really right do you know what i'm saying nobody gives 0.74

01:37:11.780 a fuck about that it's like well no no no no you could you could eventize it you could eventize it

01:37:17.060 no yeah right dude speed folding clothes yeah and like a cook-off that's judged by a judge 0.99

01:37:24.500 maybe i should join your creative team dude i think yeah you could you could make him a lot

01:37:28.960 of money you'd be a sick manager for clav i've hey i've done some behind the scenes clav work

01:37:33.720 already yeah yeah you helped out with the one thing but dude it was crazy because i think i 0.98

01:37:40.020 gave like a a task list or a grocery list to one of the girls the other day and she fucked it up

01:37:46.880 so bad that i was like starting to really like question humanity i was like wow she must have

01:37:53.880 fucking botched it i've had a lot of like my uh suits go in the washer and dryer before and i'm

01:38:02.160 sitting there thinking like how is this even possible you know how is this possible dude i 0.97

01:38:06.780 trust me i can relate my my poor alex i posted about it today my clothes are always either wet

01:38:13.380 or shrunk drying is a drying is a hands-on process you gotta you gotta stay engaged okay

01:38:20.260 you gotta get the clothes out when they're at the right

01:38:22.200 temperature

01:38:22.620 dryers aren't

01:38:24.800 nobody's dryer maxing

01:38:27.580 what was I gonna

01:38:30.900 look bro

01:38:32.740 I think you have a stream tonight

01:38:36.260 oh are you streaming tonight

01:38:37.840 I'm gonna dry yeah if I could

01:38:40.300 figure something I think you can get it done

01:38:41.960 it's just really about like how

01:38:44.380 dangerous the

01:38:46.380 area you're fine

01:38:47.680 you're fine

01:38:48.760 it's Thursday you're good I think right

01:38:51.720 you can find some nightlife he can tell you

01:38:54.140 just don't

01:38:55.420 don't get

01:38:56.580 San Juan he's fine

01:39:00.780 plus you got security

01:39:02.700 you'll be alright

01:39:03.300 that's the thing when I go out

01:39:05.500 I don't really

01:39:06.280 even acknowledge a single

01:39:09.660 guy's presence ever

01:39:11.620 we're just there to talk to girls and have a good time

01:39:13.920 dude I'm sure by the way

01:39:15.260 I'm sure Puerto Ricans will be really friendly

01:39:17.020 they're very friendly

01:39:18.000 yeah yeah

01:39:18.820 seems that way

01:39:19.420 yeah they'll like

01:39:20.100 what you're doing

01:39:20.580 yeah okay

01:39:21.460 well that should work

01:39:22.520 yeah I

01:39:24.240 do you have any

01:39:25.320 questions for us 1.00

01:39:26.200 oh fuck 1.00

01:39:27.280 hmm 1.00

01:39:28.300 do I have any

01:39:30.240 questions for you guys

01:39:31.520 I would have

01:39:33.360 if I

01:39:33.820 prepped

01:39:35.060 yeah

01:39:35.680 that's crazy

01:39:36.980 that's crazy

01:39:37.640 he came on our podcast

01:39:38.700 he's like yo

01:39:39.280 ask us something

01:39:40.160 oh wait can I

01:39:41.760 oh wait can I ask you

01:39:42.760 wait can I ask you

01:39:43.640 how's the HCG

01:39:44.920 last question for me

01:39:45.840 how's the HCG

01:39:46.740 journey going the reason i ask is because i'm trying to produce a viable sample to freeze you

01:39:53.260 want to do a test a semen test i have already done it it's bad because i was because i've been 0.96

01:39:57.580 on test for five years hmg too i know that i just got the price on it holy shit yeah i mean 0.86

01:40:05.580 fifteen fifteen hundred dollars a week around you could get it for less than that with the

01:40:11.360 so I can help with that.

01:40:14.200 But you were just HCG so far?

01:40:16.600 Yeah.

01:40:17.340 I have HMG, yeah.

01:40:20.180 But you had results from HCG?

01:40:22.160 Yes.

01:40:23.280 Okay, so maybe I don't even have to do it.

01:40:25.040 No, I don't think y'all necessarily need to,

01:40:28.200 but HMG is definitely a way to pretty much guarantee things.

01:40:32.160 Was your LH and sperm output basically at zero?

01:40:37.320 Yeah.

01:40:38.000 Okay.

01:40:38.680 Yeah.

01:40:39.740 Wait, I did have one more question.

01:40:41.360 do you collect pokemon cards i don't do you collect anything uh

01:40:48.700 sunglasses i like really yeah yeah do i collect anything else no i i don't really think so

01:41:00.320 something to think about all right let's get out of here i think that was pretty interesting though

01:41:05.300 that the five million dollar card or whatever i was kind of following that story 16 million

01:41:10.860 It's worth $16 million.

01:41:11.880 That's what he sold it for. 1.00

01:41:12.940 Holy shit. 1.00

01:41:13.920 That was a pretty good flip. 0.99

01:41:15.980 I like it, dude.

01:41:17.500 I would have started doing Pokemon cards if I knew you could do that kind of stuff.

01:41:20.680 It's not too late.

01:41:21.180 It's not too late.

01:41:22.340 I think the hobby's warming up still.

01:41:24.160 Yeah.

01:41:25.080 But, dude, this has been great.

01:41:26.160 Thanks for coming out of Puerto Rico.

01:41:27.280 Thanks for having me.

01:41:29.400 It's funny, bro.

01:41:30.080 I think we got a ton of clips.

01:41:31.340 I can totally see you.

01:41:32.020 Dude, clips, but also like a rich.

01:41:35.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:36.500 Before you go, can I, by the way, hey, that's it.

01:41:39.760 thanks for watching this podcast hit the subscribe on we'll see you next time take it easy peace

Impaulsive with Logan Paul - May 12, 2026

The Clavicular Interview

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