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00:02:12.380 Ladies and gentlemen, we have the undertaker in the house.

00:02:15.640 When you threw mankind off the top of the cell, did you think you killed him?

00:02:19.360 He's got this huge, what I think is a booger in his nostril.

00:02:22.260 Come to find out, it's his tooth.

00:02:23.720 Oh my.

00:02:25.060 Were you nervous to start showing your actual personality?

00:02:27.920 Once I retired from the ring, I had a little bit of a, who the hell am I here, right?

00:02:32.620 Coming back at WrestleMania 40 to chokeslam The Rock had me feeling like a kid again.

00:02:37.800 So I'm up in the suite chilling with my family, right?

00:02:40.020 I told my wife, yeah, I'll be back in a minute.

00:02:41.760 I kayfabe to everybody.

00:02:43.500 I worked on that move for months.

00:02:45.740 In my day, I could never imagine doing that.

00:02:48.020 There is basically zero margin for error.

00:02:50.240 I don't want to ever do that move again.

00:02:51.620 Yeah, I wouldn't blame you.

00:02:52.760 I gotta ask.

00:02:53.460 I have to ask.

00:02:54.220 What does it take to get you back in character?

00:02:57.920 9 59 a.m unbelievable no belt the former u.s champion imagine being known as that how dare

00:03:17.080 you in the city of cleveland my hometown ohio that son of a stripped me of my title in my hometown

00:03:23.040 i cannot think of a worse situation than the one we're in right now yeah i have nothing

00:03:27.920 Hold on a second.

00:03:30.040 What?

00:03:30.380 Well, that could, I guess that's technically a situation.

00:03:31.700 No, wait, wait, wait.

00:03:41.060 I don't know.

00:03:45.300 I thought you were going to scream.

00:03:46.720 I thought we were going to be like.

00:03:47.520 I just was processing it.

00:03:50.480 Do we just use that?

00:03:51.200 Do we just bring him in?

00:03:52.080 Do we just use that?

00:03:54.460 All right, all right.

00:03:56.820 All right.

00:03:57.220 We need a little work on that.

00:03:59.520 I thought you were going to scream.

00:04:00.860 Well, because I just was in so much fear of the dead man, dude, that I couldn't.

00:04:05.320 I was shook, dude.

00:04:07.220 Yeah, just speechless.

00:04:08.500 Yeah, basically.

00:04:09.620 What's up, brother?

00:04:10.380 Wow.

00:04:10.960 Wow.

00:04:11.760 Mark.

00:04:12.520 Man, how are you guys doing?

00:04:14.140 Did we botch that?

00:04:15.200 How are you feeling, man?

00:04:16.360 I'm sore.

00:04:17.260 I would imagine you would be.

00:04:18.660 I'm in pain.

00:04:19.960 Yeah, that one hurt.

00:04:20.840 That was the most painful one yet.

00:04:22.660 Yeah.

00:04:23.040 But as I was telling you, as long as I'm not injured, that's always the biggest blessing.

00:04:26.340 absolutely man anytime that you walk out and are not injured you got to kind of count your

00:04:31.660 blessings and you push the uh you push the envelope uh anyway in a business that's already

00:04:38.040 exponentially dangerous and then you just walk a little bit further out there on the edge so

00:04:44.840 well i have to i have to because they say i'm a part-timer which is which is kind of true

00:04:49.120 which is but stop stop talking about me ladies and gentlemen we have the undertaker in the house

00:04:55.100 insane dude this this is crazy by far one of the most excited podcasts well thank you for having

00:05:03.640 me man thank you thank you for coming dude bright and early by the way i was actually yeah it's

00:05:08.280 bright and early i honestly actually that's not i thought no they're gonna cancel like i was like

00:05:12.700 zero percent chance yeah i saw you before the match i was and you said good luck kill it out

00:05:18.280 there i'll see you in the morning i was like yep 10 a.m brother like i'm running out four hours

00:05:22.220 sleep i got a plane waiting on me brother i'm sorry oh really yeah i'm going home man yeah

00:05:27.100 i saw i saw him backstage i was walking with kristin before before your match and i was like

00:05:31.840 dude i wonder what this guy's like because i grew up watching him and that and that undertaker

00:05:36.180 persona is just so much larger than life and so dread inducing and kristin's just like he's really

00:05:43.060 the nicest guy and like i was just like man and i and i walked past and i was like should i say

00:05:47.800 what's up and i was like and you were having a conversation i was like no i'm just gonna keep

00:05:50.480 them moving i'll meet them tomorrow it's funny because people they have a hard time now separating

00:05:56.420 right uh especially even our talent like because i was there for so long a lot of our talent grew

00:06:03.640 up watching me i wrestled their dads you know there's some guys that wrestle their dads and

00:06:08.520 i've wrestled them that's how long i was there generational and and you know they pretty much

00:06:13.260 got the the same thing so now when people are actually getting to see mark callaway there's a

00:06:18.880 bit of a disconnect like well he's just a dude well that was this guy that was your doing too

00:06:24.960 i mean you you were so protective of the undertaker brand the whole time that you you know

00:06:30.000 participated in during all your appearances that you you know you didn't show mark at all so so now

00:06:36.340 has it become has it been that much more difficult to kind of separate the two beings it was uh at

00:06:42.940 first you know once once i retired from the ring i had a little bit of a time period there i was

00:06:49.060 like all right who who the hell am i here right it's like did you have an identity crisis i did

00:06:55.000 somewhat have an identity crisis like like okay that part of me it's over now but it's been

00:07:01.380 ingrained in me to be that you know that ominous character all the time so it took me a while to

00:07:08.100 let now you know here at work and everything else i mean the guys got to you know see who i was

00:07:13.040 but uh you know the the public you know they would never were you nervous to start showing

00:07:19.360 your actual personality oh dude this is the funny thing like i could get out in front of a stadium

00:07:25.820 like that it could be completely sold out as undertaker i'm i'm i'm cool right it's not it's

00:07:33.180 not a thing you put me in front of 10 people and try and get me to like give a speech or anything 0.98

00:07:39.960 as mark calloway dude my ass is so puckered i couldn't no way y'all yeah that's crazy and so 0.97

00:07:46.720 you know when they they find they you know they call me and say hey we want to put you in the 0.97

00:07:50.760 hall of fame i was like and it wasn't that i wasn't i wasn't honored and i was just like i'm

00:07:55.820 gonna have to give a speech no way as yourself i'm gonna have to give a speech as myself right

00:07:59.760 so i i'd like i had to think about it for a while because it was like i had to process it like

00:08:05.400 okay this is it man this is if you do this you know here the curtain's coming wide open yeah

00:08:11.540 and here we go so uh well you worked so hard to stay in character yeah both on and out or in and

00:08:18.760 out of the ring yeah it was just it was just i wish i could say you know i was that smart to

00:08:24.520 you know but i know i didn't i never expected everything that the business has to offer

00:08:29.660 now back then so it was a great thing that i protected the brand and and even not knowing

00:08:35.520 that i was i was just protecting that character and the business uh for the way it was everybody

00:08:42.180 ran it back then such a smart thing to do well you you had the veil of the character which was

00:08:49.440 i mean i'll use the word perfect in my opinion like every once in a while you have the perfect

00:08:57.460 concept all come together and i think we saw that with the undertaker like the storyline the

00:09:03.620 character the music your moveset your height just your build everything just fit you so perfectly

00:09:10.220 which i think contributed to the reason that you were able to remain relevant for

00:09:15.980 20 plus 30 years like even even now man it's like you are still the undertaker and it was because of

00:09:23.960 your commitment to this character yeah well thank you yeah it was it was definitely a commitment and

00:09:29.040 and it was um you know it was rough for people too because you know everyone had to go along you

00:09:35.360 know had to go along with it they had to they had to sell it to and then everybody it was all part

00:09:39.580 of the deal and if it didn't then you know then you see the other side of me like okay that's he's 0.97

00:09:44.980 an asshole but it was business everything you know everything was business and uh uh but now 0.97

00:09:51.660 you know i'm in a good place now like i'm i'm in at a place now where okay i can okay i can talk 0.99

00:09:57.100 about undertaker and i can be mark calloway and and it's all good well you're a podcaster

00:10:02.040 oh i wouldn't do that for you i wouldn't go as far as calling me a podcaster yet but we do that

00:10:06.760 we do occupy some some time here and there um and that's a you know that's a that was that was

00:10:12.500 kind of a challenge too because you know it's one thing sitting here being interviewed but then

00:10:17.900 you know when you're trying to extract and then you know i'm sure as you've experienced sometimes

00:10:23.100 you have guests that are you know oh yeah so then it really puts the work on you because you've got

00:10:31.020 to extract it yeah you've got to we just talk to each other when that happens yeah okay so you got

00:10:35.080 to start breaking out in conversation i'm dying over here right okay how many episodes have you

00:10:40.220 done i think we'd under yeah six feet under i think uh we're about i don't know 24 or five in

00:10:47.140 oh that's like right when you start grooving like you'll you'll be like if you're not already

00:10:52.800 you'll be feeling like a hundred percent like yeah i was it was a couple of shows ago we i

00:10:59.360 we were yeah like i said they're always surprised when i show up and and do it because i you know

00:11:05.520 i hadn't really embraced it yet um and you know obviously i don't know you've heard of my my group

00:11:14.300 my boys the bsk right of course so i don't know i don't i was feeling it one day and i was like

00:11:19.160 hey if we hit a million subscribers or whatever from sent you know by mania i said we'll do a

00:11:25.080 we'll do a reunion a reunion podcast with all the bsk members right that are still alive

00:11:31.720 and i said it and it's out there and then i'm like that was the worst thing that i could have

00:11:38.420 possibly done to get all these guys back together if if that would if that happens

00:11:43.260 and i don't get canceled like it's impossible no way no way just wild cards like that yeah i mean

00:11:50.680 i personally i don't even i don't i think you know you only get canceled if you let yourself

00:11:54.220 get canceled but if there's some wild cards in that group yeah they're definitely uh there's

00:11:59.900 some there's some interesting personalities that'll uh well welcome to social media the world

00:12:05.220 of social media will where people will pick you apart oh yeah part of you you know and that and

00:12:11.280 that's the scary thing about about revealing who you are right because now you're now you're not

00:12:16.080 in character right my guess is and i don't want to speak for you but like you know what are you 0.99

00:12:21.060 going to say about the undertaker you don't know much about him besides he shows up and kicks ass 0.89

00:12:25.520 yeah but the more mark talks now you got opinions that could rub people the wrong way 0.92

00:12:30.420 they find out more about you they don't agree that's the thing though they're my opinions so

00:12:34.660 you know i think that's the biggest i think that's the biggest issue with social media is that

00:12:38.760 is that you know people are we're all allowed we all have that right to have our own opinion

00:12:42.920 and we don't have to agree with it and i'm not going you know what if i say something that you

00:12:49.120 don't agree with i'm not you know no offense i'm not gonna lose any sleep over it and yeah but i

00:12:53.980 i think people are just really way too sensitive today and i i think there is a there's a part i

00:13:01.220 mean you we have to as people be a little more sensitive but i think it's gone too it's gone

00:13:05.900 way over the top of like we're in a hot spot yeah yeah we're in a hot place right now my my advice

00:13:11.920 would be just stay off social media that's what i try to do as much as possible i'm down to like

00:13:16.600 14 i think 14 16 hours a day right now but i'm getting i've been doing much better i think

00:13:23.760 i think i can handle that yeah uh you know what it's and two and like with my kids like with

00:13:32.080 social media like and i'm kind of guessing i'm shooting myself in the foot here because

00:13:35.260 obviously that's what we want is people you know watching our content duality this is like

00:13:40.980 man don't don't live vicariously through through me go out and live your life yeah i think there's

00:13:47.580 too many people that just rely on on social media and and like i said we're i'm shooting

00:13:53.820 you know i'm i'm killing our stuff here but you know go out and live your life man and and have

00:13:59.100 your own experiences and and then uh but don't man don't don't live your life vicariously through

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00:16:46.800 Oh my God, Lexi, we have a new podcast.

00:16:49.520 It's called Don't Lie to Me.

00:16:50.880 I'm Lexi Iwanu.

00:16:52.080 We're two best friends, 22 years apart, but so close at heart.

00:16:56.120 And I'm Lisa DiGiulio, the old one,

00:16:58.880 which means we have wildly different references,

00:17:01.160 occasionally different opinions.

00:17:02.440 And at this point in my 50s, I've lived it all.

00:17:05.300 I'm not going to get anywhere fighting.

00:17:08.100 That is wild.

00:17:09.520 I learned that about you today.

00:17:12.160 Now in my 30s, being the founder of New Shoes,

00:17:15.380 Good Taste is my business,

00:17:17.340 and I've always got something to say.

00:17:19.540 If men were just honest about this,

00:17:21.660 there would be so much more peace in the world.

00:17:23.540 We're going to talk about dating, relationships,

00:17:25.960 beauty, getting older, and a little wiser.

00:17:28.600 We're best friends, but we don't always agree.

00:17:30.960 Because you told us how accommodating you are.

00:17:33.480 Obviously, I would do what I think I could do to fight the fight,

00:17:36.880 but there's only so much fight I can fight.

00:17:38.780 Don't lie to me.

00:17:39.820 Don't lie to me.

00:17:41.040 Don't lie to me.

00:17:42.360 Don't lie to me.

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00:18:51.400 Scam Goddess!

00:18:53.680 Especially the WWE fans.

00:18:56.460 because i mean having been able to see it alongside him i have never experienced a more

00:19:03.860 passionate group of individuals they're rabid rap i was just thinking that's a word i was thinking

00:19:08.060 yeah they're rabid who are willing to devote themselves to you know this org to you to the

00:19:16.460 other you know people involved in it and so that's like for them that's an even larger pill to swallow

00:19:21.280 Man, the wrestling fan in general, it's just a whole other breed of, you know.

00:19:28.560 And God bless them, but, like, you know, I do my one dead man show, right,

00:19:32.240 which is another kind of deal where I do, it's kind of like a stand-up deal

00:19:35.980 where I try to tell some funny stories of things that people have always wondered.

00:19:40.600 And the crowd, like, I'll throw a date out, right?

00:19:44.140 I've got 30-plus years of, I don't remember everything, okay?

00:19:48.300 CTE is real sometimes.

00:19:49.540 I mean, I've had a few concussions and, and, and I will throw something out there that's

00:19:54.140 wrong, like a date or a place or an opponent or whatever.

00:19:58.940 And they have no hesitation.

00:20:00.540 Like, no, I was, I was in Hartford, Connecticut in 1997 and it was such and such.

00:20:06.620 And I'm like, okay.

00:20:09.880 But it's like, how on earth do you know that so fast off the top of your head?

00:20:15.520 Like that's a lot of time.

00:20:17.380 and then you look at the person i was like you weren't alive then yeah you weren't alive so i

00:20:24.020 mean that's a lot of time on the internet doing some wrestling research so that you can fact check

00:20:29.340 me my stories i don't think there's any other org like that uh absolutely not no no but i i think

00:20:36.220 it's also different in that um while they have such passion for but whether it's love or hate

00:20:42.800 for their baby face or their heel it's uh there's like an understanding and it it i think love is

00:20:49.660 the like underlining yeah no they they they love wrestling they're they're they're proud i think

00:20:54.920 they're proud to be wrestling fans because obviously for years and years and years you

00:20:58.580 say oh man i watch wrestling you know people kind of crap on you but there is a lot of competition

00:21:02.640 in what we do and you want you want to be the guy well the criteria isn't just the sport 0.91

00:21:08.260 absolutely that's a small part of it yeah it's like what is your moveset how are your promos

00:21:14.360 how do the fans react how are you connecting with your fans how are you connecting backstage are you 1.00

00:21:18.640 an asshole people like you like are do you deserve that spot do you right do you deserve 1.00

00:21:23.580 to lose the united states a little sore subject there all right no but i mean before we before 1.00

00:21:30.660 we move on from a little sore no it's okay all right i mean we can take them home that's fine

00:21:35.960 I mean, it's your show.

00:21:36.720 Go ahead.

00:21:37.980 No, but what I wanted to say is, yeah, you know,

00:21:42.600 obviously it was a rough day at the office last night,

00:21:44.920 but what you've done with your platform for that title has been very impressive.

00:21:52.820 You've actually made that thing mean something again.

00:21:56.040 And you had it for, what, over a year?

00:21:58.100 279 days, almost.

00:21:59.180 Almost a year.

00:21:59.740 Third longest reigning U.S. title.

00:22:01.360 Yeah.

00:22:01.600 I mean, and what you did and like all the places that you go and, you know, when you're with your brother and you've got that belt, man, that's that's that's next level commitment.

00:22:11.760 And and that's made that belt relevant again.

00:22:15.980 I I tried to take it everywhere.

00:22:18.120 No, I always look at it to my side and I bet people will see that like in this generation of wrestling fans, people will see it and always be like, that's Logan Paul's belt.

00:22:29.460 I even see

00:22:30.600 congratulations to LA Knight but man I saw him

00:22:33.620 posting the picture of him

00:22:35.580 with the belt, my belt

00:22:36.640 I was like

00:22:38.660 bro that's my belt

00:22:40.280 it's just crazy to see it with someone else

00:22:43.680 but

00:22:44.360 yeah man I try to do it

00:22:47.620 I'm running on four hours

00:22:49.740 of sleep Mark you gotta forgive me

00:22:51.640 hey bro

00:22:52.320 I was up late last night I was so excited

00:22:54.780 it's cool to see you

00:22:57.020 backstage 0.99

00:22:58.180 age uh as as a as a veteran and and you still around the scene because you still give a fuck

00:23:04.900 about the product i i do and you know there's a there's a handful of guys that still will you

00:23:10.960 know they they want you know although the product is is a lot different from when i worked but i

00:23:17.460 think there's a lot of elements that i can like i can still that are still relevant to today's

00:23:24.320 product um and you know i think there's a there's a handful of guys that'll come still pick my brain

00:23:31.740 and i have to do that yeah brother if you see me and you got something on your mind i mean

00:23:36.880 like i said today's game is a lot different so i have to process the information that i give

00:23:42.620 because it is a different product but there's a lot of the the root principles of of of wrestling

00:23:49.300 that still apply are you a fan yourself of wwe's current product i i am it's different it is like

00:23:57.440 you know i've had to stop myself from being that old crusty you know old timer like

00:24:02.980 the way we did it you know uh but the business is freaking incredible right now it is it's it is 0.79

00:24:11.480 absolutely insane so i can't bitch too much about it because you guys are killing it whenever we

00:24:18.080 ask like we had hulk on like two weeks ago or three weeks ago or something and we ask a very 0.89

00:24:23.860 similar question about today's product and there's always like a little bit of a pause

00:24:28.240 where like it feels like it looks it looks almost like you're reminiscing back on 30 years of

00:24:33.840 destruction yeah you know real destruction what what in your mind like what's the core difference

00:24:40.300 core difference between today and yesterday's product so one there was a really high turnover

00:24:46.320 of my my generation and my guys and then the new new guys that are coming up and i think

00:24:54.660 and and for you too this would be i think there's the guys are so athletic like the things like that 0.85

00:25:05.980 the springboard thing it's like that's video game shit bro like i couldn't have in my day i

00:25:13.160 couldn't have never even imagined doing that like it was just like and i guess it is from the 0.99

00:25:19.060 generations playing video games and like we shut up i could do that right i was like holy shit 0.94

00:25:24.840 but what you know again those kind of moves increase the risk again like i said earlier 0.97

00:25:32.260 exponentially i mean i always feel like in any given match you're one two inches away from

00:25:39.640 something really catastrophic happening yes right and you experienced it last night you felt you

00:25:44.200 know yeah so i think there's an element to the storytelling that guys aren't comfortable with

00:25:53.760 that yet where they are comfortable with their athleticism and they know what they can do

00:25:58.020 athletically but what happens my opinion what happens is then the audience that's what they

00:26:05.760 expect and you have to continually put okay so you did a a back springboard moonsault onto the

00:26:15.300 floor yeah okay i've seen that now now what do you got yeah you don't want to say they get

00:26:21.180 desensitized oh i know yeah to to you know i mean when you and ricochet did the the the the mid-air

00:26:28.520 collision the the clotheslines it's like oh shit something no one's ever seen yeah so what what

00:26:35.120 ends up happening is a lot of times you might get yourself put in a box where uh i don't you know 0.52

00:26:40.960 no backflips tonight yeah you know but if they're invested in the character and i think you've done

00:26:48.500 a really really really good job of of being who you are and in your platform and your social media

00:26:56.000 and being that guy and not trying to be well let me tell you something brother kind of of a guy

00:27:01.780 you're genuine so i think people i think people resonate whether they love you whether they hate

00:27:06.680 you i think i think you could get to a point where you didn't necessarily have to do that

00:27:12.200 yeah it's nice to have it in the toolbox but don't rely on it i don't want to ever do that

00:27:16.620 move again yeah i i wouldn't blame you no i've never did that again it it's it's on film now

00:27:21.720 brother it'll live forever yeah but but i think that's that's where the the and it's coming back

00:27:27.700 Because you're starting to see more guys that are, you know, Roman and all the storytelling aspect of it.

00:27:34.140 That's what makes people care.

00:27:35.760 So as someone new who is who's now coming to understand this really intricate business and WWE is the hardest thing I've ever done.

00:27:46.260 I'm kind of realizing that now, because when I first got in here, I knew I knew I could shock people with these these moves that I could do.

00:27:54.140 And it's still very fun.

00:27:55.380 and there's that daredevil in me that's like how far can i push push this and one day i'm sure i'll

00:28:00.980 get the answer to that question oh it comes it comes yeah it comes eventually yeah with the

00:28:06.080 ricochet one like you know not a not a great landing took a little bit from me like my soul

00:28:10.840 and and and these things happen but like i worked on that move for months right for months because

00:28:17.980 i knew i was in in cleveland in my hometown brown stadium and i wanted to send it i'll do it once in

00:28:23.780 my life i'll never do it again because it is extremely hard and dangerous and like you said

00:28:28.320 there's there's basically zero margin for error no margin for error on that your foot slips dude

00:28:34.720 it's no i had i had our referee secretly you can see this uh if you watch the film back secretly

00:28:42.020 he'd put his armpit on the rope and dry it off because if it was like rub it just because if

00:28:46.880 there was oil on there and this has happened before uh there's oil on there you slip up and

00:28:51.040 you do the move but what i'm getting is i'm envious of guys like roman who don't have to

00:28:59.380 risk their entire like body and health and wellness because people are so invested in the

00:29:06.420 story yep in the story and it's it's such a such a good note that's a veteran note but that's the

00:29:12.300 hardest part it isn't how can you tell that story to get people invested in in in who you are yeah

00:29:19.200 it takes time because and especially somebody coming in you know what two three years three

00:29:25.940 years yeah yeah yeah i mean at three years i could barely lace my boots i mean there's just

00:29:31.300 a there's such a process but it's trial and error too yeah like you have to figure out yeah because

00:29:36.940 what you want you want it to look natural you want it to look real and you just have to i think a lot

00:29:43.880 of times what happens are the guys and i tell them this all the time it's like you don't look

00:29:50.620 like a wrestler to me you look like somebody trying to emulate a wrestler you're trying to

00:29:56.080 be something that you've seen on tv i don't get that with you i get i get logan paul that's what

00:30:03.240 i get and and and that's and that's awesome don't don't try to change is my point of that don't try

00:30:08.760 to don't be that kind of rest don't don't try to be fit that wrestler yeah and i think you're

00:30:14.960 smart you know that but i'm just you know talking to you but i think that's the is the essence is

00:30:21.420 they they they have to trial and error so you did you did a decent amount of trial and error before

00:30:27.600 you found the undertaker oh yeah man i mean how many how many characters had you put jeez i went

00:30:31.960 through you know i mean a lot of them didn't count because it was just me trying to come up

00:30:35.720 and you know back then it was just trying to find a ring to get in like i would have to pay money

00:30:41.820 to help set up a ring so that i would get put on some little you know backyard promotion

00:30:48.200 kind of card with 20 people that's crazy see will you ever have that same respect that you have for

00:30:56.360 or that same vibe that you have toward yourself having paid your dues like that and all the other

00:31:00.400 guys that you used to look at versus you know guys that could come along nowadays and use a

00:31:05.080 bolstered social media and skill set not to remove from his incredible skill set but it's a great

00:31:10.340 question to to kind of just appear like the undertaker would right no that is a that is a

00:31:17.240 really good question because there there was a time there it was like again i was that salty

00:31:22.080 kind of you know old timer who had his day i was like look at these kids oh my gosh i get

00:31:27.440 but then when i look back at it it was like dude you were part of this you were you you kind of

00:31:33.060 help pave the way so that we have a performance center down in orlando where we can we can send

00:31:40.220 our guys and down there to train with the best and it puts us on the same kind of level as nfl

00:31:49.020 or nba or major league baseball i mean the way that the wwe is run today is it is a pro uh you

00:31:58.500 know it is a pro franchise call it a well-oiled machine yeah and so if if we're in a position

00:32:06.460 where we can one have these tryouts and handpick the guys that we want and you put them in the

00:32:13.660 system and you pay them like you know it's just like oh man they're not paying it well you know

00:32:19.660 what there's a there's a certain part of paying dues and and going so through some of the stuff

00:32:26.280 that i had to go through that gives you an edge and gives you makes you a little saltier maybe

00:32:30.800 but i don't know that you need that in this day and age i just you know i wouldn't change the way

00:32:37.100 i came up man i i just wouldn't because it prepared me for things you know that i would

00:32:42.340 never think you know that i would be in situations that i would be put in uh you know i lived in my

00:32:49.100 car i lived in my car for almost a year because i didn't have you know i i left i left school

00:32:54.900 how does a guy which car i think it was a 87 monte carlo yeah well that's a longer body

00:33:03.240 yeah when you're when you're six foot eight and 315 pounds that gets eaten up really quick yeah

00:33:10.480 that's great that's crazy but it's like indicative of how much you love the business and you love

00:33:14.980 what you do yeah and this is what i'm saying like the collision of of you mark six foot eight 350

00:33:21.380 pound guy who loves professional wrestling meeting this concept of the undertaker was like perfect

00:33:28.640 like i'm saying every once in a while you get that and lightning in a bottle it's it's literally

00:33:33.700 lightning in a bottle like like dude even the fact that you can do that thing with your eyes

00:33:37.660 and the tongue yeah but like wait it's all just it's all just too perfect and i happen i know you

00:33:43.680 want to or you told this story probably a ton of times but like i am just so curious the concept

00:33:50.600 of the undertaker did it click for you immediately when you went this is it and i'm gonna do this for

00:33:56.840 the rest of my life um you know initially i was just i was just excited that i wasn't going to be

00:34:05.160 the egg man you know that was that was a legitimate that was that was a legitimate uh source of

00:34:11.880 anxiety for me for a while but i was gonna you know because i i would i'd been at wcw and i was

00:34:18.360 trying to grow my hair out and i'm like he's going to shave my head shave my i'm going to be

00:34:23.140 you know i got a big ass head anyway i look like an egg so i'm going to be this you know i was just

00:34:27.780 like i was losing sleep about it because it just that's just the way it wasn't there were so many 0.89

00:34:32.780 over-the-top outlandish characters and uh you know the old man called me one day and

00:34:37.980 it was he didn't call me mark he just said is this the undertaker you know and i'm having this

00:34:44.320 moment like i'm covering the phone up right and i'm like undertaker undertaker undertaker's not

00:34:51.920 egg man yeah yeah yeah this is the undertaker ah great man great can you be up here tomorrow i want

00:35:01.220 to show you some stuff i'm like uh yeah like i got no money i don't like i have no clue that

00:35:07.100 they're going to send me a ticket right i'm greener you know i'm greener can be so they

00:35:13.000 It flew me up there, and so Vets had the concept of The Undertaker, the look.

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00:38:13.020 wellness influencers what i try to do is faux journal i don't know have you guys heard of

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00:38:31.200 I'm so sorry

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00:38:39.180 That's crazy

00:38:39.600 I went to the Wonderland Bookstore yesterday

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00:39:17.640 And kind of explain to me what it was, and I was like, this could be really cool.

00:39:23.100 and then you know once you know then they started making the the the original costume and everything

00:39:30.160 i was like yeah this is like because you know i loved like old the old clint eastwood westerns

00:39:35.860 right and i'm like okay all right and then you know the you know is he is he dead or is he alive

00:39:43.060 kind of thing so then it's like okay so now there's some horror in this thing too right so there's all

00:39:47.820 these different elements that that uh you know that i did have a lot of interest in so um could

00:39:55.600 i have told you then in in 1990 uh that you know 30 plus years later that i'd be sitting here

00:40:02.180 talking to you about it no no absolutely not uh but it had to have hit at some point like this

00:40:07.440 is working yeah no no no it it was like by 90 so i started in november of 90 um yeah by the end of

00:40:16.600 91 like it's there's there's there's jake flair and myself we're all the top heels already you

00:40:23.600 know and i'm like okay and then the switch to me you know this character the darkest character that

00:40:30.400 anyone's ever seen is now becoming a baby face you know it's just like yeah okay this thing's

00:40:35.580 got legs and this whole time you know i'm i'm developing and and and figuring out what works

00:40:41.940 and sound like my coffin door right now.

00:40:46.940 Somebody let somebody out of the coffin.

00:40:49.000 Of course it's Jeff too.

00:40:50.340 That's my manager. 1.00

00:40:52.160 He's a scumbag who always gives me the brass knuckles. 1.00

00:40:54.640 That's the one right there. 1.00

00:40:55.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:40:57.340 I was going to ask about the finisher

00:41:00.560 and how quickly did the move set,

00:41:04.640 how quickly did the tombstone join you in the process?

00:41:07.080 Well, funny enough, with the move set,

00:41:10.560 is like i had to i had a i had a move i was pretty athletic yeah for your size especially

00:41:17.540 dude yeah crazy i had to i had to pull in the reins because i was still like the first couple

00:41:22.740 of matches that i did uh you know i'm still doing leapfrogs and drop downs and drop kicks and then

00:41:30.560 you know and as i'm watching it back and i go it doesn't work so i had to kind of put my ego

00:41:36.220 aside because i got like nobody my size was doing shit like that right and then i had to go

00:41:43.340 it doesn't work it doesn't work so you know then i had to you know then i come up with this really 0.96

00:41:49.780 really slow pace where it was methodical and i was always like that that that shark that had an

00:41:56.340 injured seal in the water right and i'm just circling around and then i was like but then

00:42:02.360 there would be that instant somewhere in there that where i'd hit something fast like you know

00:42:06.860 everybody would kind of get lulled into my pace and then bam i'd hit do something fast like the

00:42:10.980 big flying clothesline or whatever it was and then roll boom and right back into the slow pace

00:42:15.960 like people like yeah what the hell yeah what was that what he he can move but you know so it was

00:42:23.360 those first few years that's what i was doing is i was throwing stuff up against the wall to see

00:42:27.360 what stuck and um and it just resonated i think there's everybody kind of has this little darker

00:42:33.260 side anyway that kind of either they embrace it or they suppress it but it's in there and

00:42:39.040 everybody and i think people it really resonated with people like you know it's all right to be

00:42:44.240 you know a little different but you know it's he's got some issues but he's got some issues

00:42:49.580 he's got some issues but he's kind of cool yeah and funny enough like

00:42:53.420 so back in the day like coming out of matterhead you've worked in the garden now yeah right

00:42:58.600 well back you know back in the day they didn't let us drive up and you know get your get out

00:43:04.620 your cars and everything we used to have to park across the street in the parking lot and then walk

00:43:09.160 across all those people see these are the moments that you're talking about that he goes under the

00:43:14.220 stadium and a sprinter and people carry him in exactly like this dude yeah with the big fans

00:43:20.400 if you can get it done go for it but yeah so we used to have to walk across the street right

00:43:28.960 and you know new yorkers too right they're just like get the fuck out of this

00:43:33.700 but i'd come it's the strangest thing man i would get out of the car

00:43:40.240 and even my street clothes although they weren't the same as what i wore in the rain they were 0.85

00:43:46.200 dark like if it was winter time i had a long black coat i mean i lived this shit and it would be like 0.97

00:43:53.160 it would be like the red sea parting with these people like they didn't want they didn't want to 0.98

00:43:57.020 mess with me hey man you're you can say it for me you're six you're six foot eight dude and we

00:44:02.780 don't know we didn't know if you were alive at the time and that's where i was going with it

00:44:07.000 that they were people would ask is he alive or is he dead i'm like are you kidding me dude i was

00:44:11.900 When I was a kid watching you, straight up, I thought a corpse or a zombie or something.

00:44:20.380 It was so good.

00:44:23.200 And again, the eye roll, the infamous Undertaker eye roll.

00:44:27.760 How is that something?

00:44:29.240 Because I tried it.

00:44:30.280 I can't do it.

00:44:31.200 Have you always been able to roll your eyes like that?

00:44:33.200 I just did it.

00:44:33.860 I did it in a match.

00:44:34.880 It was totally by chance.

00:44:36.600 I think I was working with Greg the Hammer Valentine.

00:44:41.900 and i had him down in the corner and you know my i think my hair and everything was kind of getting

00:44:46.140 my ass i kind of slung my my head back and when i slung my head back my eyes kind of rolled too

00:44:50.700 and i was like and i held them so i come back to the gorilla position and everybody's just flipping 0.97

00:44:55.820 out like what the hell was that with the eyes and i was like i don't know i just tried it what

00:44:59.900 did it look like and they're like you know they're trying to play it back for me look at this 0.99

00:45:03.580 shit i was like oh that's creepy dude that's yeah so the eye roll and then the you know the tongue 0.82

00:45:09.260 deal it was just at all yeah i mean and then and then another thing that was just perfect 0.99

00:45:14.620 one of the most iconic pieces of the undertaker your music oh yeah the funeral dirge yeah it was

00:45:22.540 how jim johnston man he was he was amazing he uh he sat down and you know he would start composing

00:45:30.700 and and then he'd bring me in and i was like oh that's perfect man that is so good yeah are you

00:45:38.780 I mean, this was Mike's question.

00:45:40.180 I'll let you ask.

00:45:41.060 Did you see Adesanya walk out to him?

00:45:43.460 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

00:45:44.240 What did you think of it?

00:45:45.740 Yeah.

00:45:47.480 I mean, obviously for, you know, he couldn't go full on.

00:45:51.080 What did you really think of it?

00:45:52.020 It was, I was like, it's pretty cool.

00:45:55.740 You know, obviously he's a fan of the product.

00:45:58.080 I mean, he knew, you know.

00:45:59.920 Were you watching from a critical standpoint?

00:46:03.100 No, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not.

00:46:05.300 Because obviously he's not going to do what you did.

00:46:07.180 Yeah.

00:46:07.420 But the fact that he did it, like Mike said,

00:46:10.400 that's one of the coolest walkouts ever in the history of the UFC.

00:46:13.220 Even to the extent of what he did in letting him do a fight,

00:46:17.220 an MMA fight, it was pretty confident.

00:46:20.180 Wait, was that where he beat Pereira?

00:46:21.460 I think so, yeah.

00:46:22.540 Yeah, he won.

00:46:24.820 Did you look at it as like an ode, like an homage?

00:46:28.120 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:46:28.780 Oh, absolutely, yeah.

00:46:30.600 I got to ask, I have to ask,

00:46:32.420 what does it take to get you back in character like they did in Saudi?

00:46:37.420 you know the answer

00:46:44.100 so the last time that I was

00:46:48.820 that I was over there

00:46:50.020 and I did the

00:46:52.980 thing for the soccer tournament

00:46:55.000 and

00:46:56.020 at the end of it

00:46:58.980 so all my

00:47:00.700 hats and

00:47:03.000 all my coats throughout the years

00:47:04.980 they're all at the warehouse in Connecticut

00:47:06.740 Except for I had one hat and one duster left that I wore that night in Saudi.

00:47:15.220 And then when it was all over, I found Prince Turk guy.

00:47:19.380 I said, Your Excellency, these are yours.

00:47:23.600 So I gave them to Prince Turkey.

00:47:28.000 And so now I don't have them anymore.

00:47:30.800 Got nothing.

00:47:31.220 I got nothing.

00:47:32.180 It's a good guy to give stuff to.

00:47:33.780 You get Mark Calloway or you get the more of an American badass hybrid version.

00:47:40.480 I'll dress in black, but I'm not putting the hat and coat back on.

00:47:43.660 Was that 2018?

00:47:45.600 No, no, no.

00:47:46.420 That was way more recently.

00:47:47.900 That was this year.

00:47:48.840 Oh, the last time.

00:47:50.000 Because you had done something in Saudi earlier before that as well.

00:47:53.400 I did something with AJ for the Saudi Cup or something like that.

00:48:02.680 because i because i was going to ask you and and your and your feelings on this

00:48:07.640 around 2018 you and thereafter 2020 you had a few appearances and there were some people in the

00:48:13.640 community rolling stone for example who's a little bit critical of your continued appearances in the

00:48:21.400 in the space as a as a vet who you would think would be you know welcomed with open arms for

00:48:27.880 anytime he wants to make an appearance in the in the in the organization that he helped build

00:48:32.600 did you feel a sense of betrayal from the community for that for that um acting no because

00:48:38.660 there's not a bigger critic of me than myself right and this is the first thing time i've even

00:48:46.340 heard about rolling stone so oh good okay well sorry about that man well i have to go to the

00:48:51.520 but i don't yeah no i don't i don't rolling stone is not it's not my did you see any of the no no i

00:48:59.200 had i'm i'm struggling on the inside myself like i'm at that point of my career i'm looking for

00:49:05.840 one match i knew i knew you here we go no i knew i can tell you're dude you're backstage and i can

00:49:13.220 see you like itching and just the length that you went this was another line of questions i wanted

00:49:18.740 to ask you we'll have to get there but do you do you need one match to cap it is that what you

00:49:23.980 that's what i was looking for yeah just to just to put the exclamation point on the career like

00:49:28.780 i wanted to have you know that one match i could hang my hat on and say you know and say goodbye

00:49:35.000 because my body i mean it was it was breaking down at that point to to the point where

00:49:41.080 you know i can't like i can walk and talk and i could i mean i could get out right now and i

00:49:47.340 could do a match but you know it's not a match that that you as an undertaker fan or an undertaker

00:49:53.680 fan is like oh that's not my that's you know they may give me the benefit of the doubt because i've

00:49:58.860 got all that equity built up in all those years but you don't want that but i don't want that i

00:50:02.680 don't want to that was one of the big things that that i was trying to fight against and was what

00:50:07.500 made it so hard is like i did not want to become a parody of myself like i had too much pride in

00:50:13.340 and what I'd accomplished and what I'd done through the years.

00:50:17.280 But I also wanted to have that one match where I could hang my hat on it

00:50:23.320 and say, you know, I could put my six shooters up on the mantle

00:50:26.740 and say, see ya.

00:50:28.960 I can understand it's something you want,

00:50:31.060 but I think moments might be equally as valuable.

00:50:35.680 The moment you had at WrestleMania 40,

00:50:38.620 I don't know if I've ever heard a pop that big in my life.

00:50:41.040 it was i mean that was fun and and that really that helped me actually a lot because um like

00:50:50.400 personally yeah personally like because i was still you know even to then i was still struggling

00:50:55.620 like i would i will come to the shows and i will say hello and and and you know and i'll talk to

00:51:00.880 some of the guys and maybe watch a couple of matches but then i gotta leave because it's

00:51:06.620 still my my body and my mindset is like dude you should be getting ready right now

00:51:10.860 because you should be going out in a little bit and it's especially at mania because i my history

00:51:18.640 with mania is of course you know what it is of course but you know so i'd have to leave because

00:51:24.540 i just like i get you know not depression but it's just like i feel like that need that i need

00:51:30.680 to be getting ready to go out and perform and wanted to perform and especially at mania i mean

00:51:35.820 And that's just a whole other level of, you know, being on the card at Mania is awesome.

00:51:44.100 But, yeah, those last few years, like I'm battling father time who's undefeated.

00:51:51.300 You know, I've got injuries that need to, you know, knees need to be replaced.

00:51:57.060 My back's, you know, got issues.

00:51:58.980 but that that that one part that part in your head that that's got you this far says you know

00:52:05.800 you still got one in you somewhere you know you got one you got one match that people are going

00:52:11.180 to go wow and do you think it's true um i don't know i i think i took it i i think i took my body

00:52:20.300 to the limits of of what it could do because now you know like when i the last few things that i

00:52:25.080 did like i've always picked my stuff apart like you know they're just like man i wish i had done

00:52:31.380 that differently you watch back film oh yeah oh yeah yeah and i never watch with anybody i have 0.78

00:52:36.280 to be by myself because i don't want to hear anybody saying oh shit that was great that was 0.69

00:52:40.520 good i want to because i'm looking for the i'm looking for the things that i do in the transitions 0.95

00:52:44.680 and and and the little things that that people that they don't necessarily pick up while they're

00:52:50.820 watching it but make everything make sense right and so i would i would just pick everything apart

00:52:57.480 and um i could tell like my body was my body was getting stiff and like there wasn't you know like

00:53:07.100 the like man it was horrible um the match that i had with goldberg uh in saudi arabia you know

00:53:15.460 there was never a time in my career where i didn't feel like no matter what happened

00:53:22.760 that i couldn't figure out a way to make it all work and make it make sense get it back on track

00:53:28.940 and still have you know have a decent match and you know he got concussed early on it's 98 degrees

00:53:37.560 at midnight in the desert and uh you know it was just like it was just like a train wreck

00:53:45.420 and the more i tried to to fix it the worse it got and you know but i'm not pointing i'm not

00:53:51.840 pointing fingers it's just one of those things that happened where like i just didn't have it

00:53:56.400 in me physically anymore to make things right and so you know so i'm getting you know i'm getting

00:54:02.840 all that right i'm getting all all that and then and like i said i'm my worst critic but i still

00:54:08.460 feel like you know if i can get there's that one person somewhere that i can have you know and i'm

00:54:13.580 not looking for anybody that's gonna say well they could carry me that that would kill me if

00:54:18.420 i felt like i was being carried through a match so does does that feel like a did you see the

00:54:23.720 wrestler with micky roick i did i would assume yeah i'm sure it has meaning to oh absolutely

00:54:28.360 and you know obviously for like a guy like that who's still wrestling and you're at the time

00:54:34.180 wrestling in back rooms he's looking for another you know chance to kind of have that moment but

00:54:38.180 he's putting it all on the line his life i mean at the end we don't really know exactly what

00:54:42.340 happened um but do you feel do you ever feel like do you ever feel like maybe that moment

00:54:50.380 has already happened oh no i'm done brother yeah it's it's no yeah it's all over now i don't know

00:54:57.660 if you really know about your streak yeah yeah yeah yeah no the greatest of all time no no no

00:55:04.480 no no no man we're good like you know we you know i had my last match was with aj styles we did that

00:55:10.260 cinematic deal uh which for us we got lucky because that you know i was right in the middle

00:55:15.660 of covid and um we got to go off site and do something different which was fun and then

00:55:22.580 i think we delivered on it was it a was it a traditional wrestling match like we had planned

00:55:28.800 absolutely not um but i was i was like okay i think this is you know we started shooting that

00:55:36.800 thing at like eight o'clock at night we wrapped it at sunrise uh putting that thing together and

00:55:43.920 it's at about 4 a.m when it really dawns on me like dude you're done you know it's it's over

00:55:51.900 well look like i said i mean for me at least um my mentality something that's very important to me

00:55:58.120 even just the way i build my businesses are moments at least in the wwa i try to get those

00:56:03.020 that one moment that people will be like do you remember the mid-air collision right and like

00:56:08.140 for me uh now as like a like really invested wrestling fan like i said you coming back at

00:56:15.960 wrestlemania 40 to chokeslam the rock had me feeling like a like a kid again i don't know

00:56:22.620 you've seen the video of me reacting but man you have what 70 80 000 people in the in the stadium

00:56:29.460 them all reacting the same way and that's the moment like you're good man you're no but that's

00:56:34.340 not yeah but that's not gonna be the one that he's got moments that are like yeah no that was

00:56:39.060 fun and it was but you said it did something for you like i know yeah yeah it was it kind of gave

00:56:44.960 me the that closure like you know what i still got it i still got it yeah but i don't want to

00:56:51.100 now right you know you know i'm i'm good and it was the it was just the you know the right group

00:56:56.260 of people too that it happened with and uh you know funny enough i'm i'm up you know i don't know

00:57:03.480 if you've heard the story but you know they had called me earlier in the week and mentioned that

00:57:07.780 they might want to do something oh wow yeah paul calls me on a tuesday tuesday oh my god and drops

00:57:15.980 the seed i was like all right man let me know i'm gonna be there whoa so i'm up in the suite

00:57:21.300 chilling with my family right friends which i've never been able to do in all these years

00:57:25.260 and i'm sitting there i feel my phone buzzing in my back pocket get it out

00:57:30.960 where go i'll be back in a minute wait that casual yeah i told my wife i was like yeah i'll

00:57:40.480 be back in a minute and she she knew but nobody else in the suite had a clue that's insane yeah

00:57:46.200 i kayfabed everybody i have to ask what do you do under the ring when you're just sitting there

00:57:53.040 or is that not where you come from where do you come from that night no i had to i could run from

00:57:58.500 the other end of the stadium yeah but you're but you're under the ring for like 30 minutes no no

00:58:02.960 not that not not at mania how'd you get oh you ran in when the lights were off when the lights

00:58:07.480 no so they well all the finishes while all these people were coming in yeah you know they brought

00:58:13.940 me in uh from the far end of the stadium and then behind hard camera they had a little place set

00:58:21.540 there so i staged right there and then i think when seth went i edged up a little bit closer

00:58:27.980 hood hood it up yeah yeah yeah and then uh and then when it was my turn they went black

00:58:33.900 i said oh man knees don't fail me now brother because i'm working on brand new knees

00:58:39.420 yeah and then it was such a perfect like it was uh yeah so it was it was fun and

00:58:46.140 And I go back up and our buddy in the suite's like, what the hell are you doing?

00:58:51.540 You didn't tell us.

00:58:52.800 No. 1.00

00:58:53.180 So, but yeah, I cut a lot of shit for that. 0.99

00:58:56.280 But they, you know, it's like, it was more fun, right? 0.99

00:58:59.400 It was more fun that you didn't know.

00:59:00.740 Like, if I'd have told you.

00:59:02.360 Yeah.

00:59:02.800 It wouldn't have been as fun.

00:59:03.860 It wouldn't have been as fun.

00:59:04.820 No.

00:59:05.200 It was insane. 1.00

00:59:06.100 But, and we don't like to do superlatives on this shit. 1.00

00:59:08.560 Wait, wait, go for it. 0.99

00:59:09.120 I just want to ask about a couple more moments.

00:59:11.860 A couple more of his iconic moments.

00:59:13.260 No, that's where I was going.

00:59:14.480 I was just, oh, specific ones.

00:59:15.860 yeah when you threw mankind off the top of the cell did you think you killed him dude look i

00:59:24.780 didn't so truth be told i didn't want to do it like i said like mick too this is craziness right

00:59:32.800 like i said here's the and here's the his mindset was that the first the first hell in the cell

00:59:40.820 was in 97 bad blood me and sean michaels and it was fucking good i mean i don't i don't usually

00:59:47.420 put my stuff over but it was good yeah sean michaels could have a five-star match with a

00:59:51.140 broomstick okay i mean that's just how good he that's how good he is or was or whatever

00:59:56.800 so we have this killer hell in the cell match and that was kane's debut and all that right

01:00:03.300 so we get to so it's now it's a few years later and and mick keeps looking back at that he's like

01:00:09.740 there's no way that we can have that kind of match and I'm like Mick we can do it just you know and

01:00:14.640 so he he had in his mind like he needed to do something that would fool the people into thinking

01:00:20.740 that they had seen something right so he's he's on me week after week he's like I think I think

01:00:26.600 I can do it you know you throw me off the top and I'm like Mick I'm not throwing you off the top

01:00:31.660 it's murder I don't care I'm not I'm not throwing you off the top right so it gets to be like the

01:00:38.320 day of and uh still like i've got a hard no on it and then he goes and gets in in the old man's

01:00:45.100 ear right so then they come and they they double team me no yeah mark he says he can do it and i'm

01:00:51.360 like there's no we don't need to do it i think fine all right you want to get thrown off the

01:00:57.720 top fine i'll throw you off the top there you happy he's i've been you know and he and he told

01:01:02.760 me like i've been up there i could see he never went to the top he never went to the top of the

01:01:08.620 cell he never looked at it see what it looked like and there we are and like you ready bye 0.93

01:01:16.020 and then you know people think i'm full of shit when i say this like this is the one time that i 0.91

01:01:22.060 in my life that i had a total out of body experience because i let lu i let him go 0.97

01:01:27.500 and i can see myself standing there and i can also see him falling which seemed like it took

01:01:34.000 20 seconds for him to hit that table right and i'm just and then he hits and then the way he

01:01:41.420 was hit with so much force that he hit and then he slid under the the railing that was there right

01:01:47.280 and he's i don't know that he could move and i'm just waiting like i'm just looking at like

01:01:51.320 come on mick move i just killed the man yeah yeah exactly i'm like that's what i'm gonna go down to

01:01:57.480 history for i killed mick foley and i'm just thinking like mick just move i'm saying this

01:02:02.640 in my head and i have i'm oblivious to the fact that they've raised the cage and i'm standing on

01:02:07.060 top of it and i'm just like okay mick miss just move finally he starts stirring you know and i

01:02:13.500 think somebody might have turned and gave me a you know yeah he's okay and i'm like wow okay 0.92

01:02:19.180 well that's over with yeah that's some bitch he starts climbing back up you know i'm like 0.99

01:02:25.500 oh shit man this guy wants to die so little did we know that that was going to be the easiest part 0.99

01:02:35.840 of his night because the when i choke slammed him through the top dude dude you didn't expect 1.00

01:02:43.360 at that break like that no no no no that's that's no that's horrifying he rotates out through it

01:02:49.440 he was the top of the cell yeah he rotates another couple inches dude he don't get up

01:02:54.500 his business is cruel it is crazy and crazy yeah he goes through it so we're walking up on that

01:03:05.060 mesh and you can hear like the the brackets that they they're popping off like me and sean

01:03:12.820 weren't that heavy i guess but you know mick was a heavy i don't know what they did differently

01:03:17.020 but it's like and you could see my foot i'd step and it would just keep going down and like

01:03:23.700 what was what was supposed to happen is we hit that panel and then it was supposed to kind of

01:03:30.640 give way in a corner and we were gonna because i had a broken ankle going into the match so

01:03:37.160 we were gonna we were gonna go we were gonna kind of slide down one of the panels and then

01:03:44.620 get back into the ring and finish the match but i'm i'm i can tell like this thing is not going

01:03:50.620 to hold so at the last second i get off of the mesh and i stand on the barrack on the on the 0.99

01:03:55.540 poles he said fuck this yeah hell with that brother and man when i chose it he just never 0.99

01:04:02.140 stopped man he hit that thing and that thing 1.00

01:04:04.060 popped all the way open and

01:04:05.720 then the chair

01:04:07.440 that was on top come down hits him in the face

01:04:10.260 too

01:04:10.660 big 0.51

01:04:12.500 he's crazy

01:04:14.660 he is a sweetheart of a man 0.80

01:04:18.080 but man he took some damage

01:04:20.040 he's missing an ear

01:04:22.280 he did lose an ear

01:04:24.200 lost an ear wrestling

01:04:25.260 I was 13 for that hell in a cell

01:04:28.040 in 98 I watched that

01:04:29.720 live

01:04:30.560 and it was one of the craziest things i've ever seen in my entire life it was absolutely insane

01:04:35.780 when you when you look at that moment was that you said it was the only time you've had this

01:04:41.660 out-of-body experience was that to you the standout moment was that the biggest moment

01:04:46.920 of your career or was it a sean michaels you know wrestling or was it a you know i think at that

01:04:52.440 point i you know i mean i by this time i'd won the title um which was a big moment but i mean

01:05:01.320 in retrospect i mean that people still talk about that for sure to this day i mean it's been what

01:05:08.740 25 years however long ago it's been now 27 yeah i mean people will still stop me on the street like

01:05:15.300 man that time you chokeslam you know mick you know the one of the weird things about that i

01:05:22.760 really remember is like after he got his faculties back again you know and i'm like mick let's let's

01:05:30.980 go home yeah you know and he's like no no no we gotta he had to get to the tax that's how he

01:05:36.220 thinks this is how he thinks right we gotta get to the tax it was good i have thrown you

01:05:43.000 Off of this thing

01:05:44.280 I've thrown you through it

01:05:45.580 I said I don't think they care about the tax

01:05:48.280 We gotta get through the tax

01:05:49.180 And the whole time I'm looking at him

01:05:51.820 It's kind of gross 0.71

01:05:53.460 But he's got this huge booger 0.87

01:05:56.460 What I think is a booger in his nostril

01:05:58.480 And it's weird

01:05:59.940 The things you pick up in the course of a match

01:06:01.820 Come to find out it's not a booger

01:06:03.760 It's his tooth

01:06:04.480 In his nose?

01:06:07.280 Yeah

01:06:07.540 It went through when he landed

01:06:11.240 his incisor went through his lip and lodged in his nose oh my and it's stuff like that you say

01:06:20.680 like dude you got you know like you know you got a big booger you know will you wipe your nose or

01:06:26.680 something like that and then you know i'm hitting and i'm looking at him that's his tooth last night

01:06:31.880 they were looking at him they're like are you okay he's like he's like yes you know hurt my face

01:06:36.240 this dude had a tooth in his nose and he was still wrestling sport has changed how he gets

01:06:42.240 his tooth he gets his tooth out and he hands it to the ref hold that for me can i get that

01:06:48.900 that's crazy he was tough man he bless his heart he he is a sweetheart of a human being man i don't

01:06:56.220 know if y'all have been around me much but i've seen the documentaries it to me it doesn't make

01:07:00.460 sense that how that person is capable of doing the the damage to his body and and like he likes it

01:07:08.220 yeah i i think you know that was kind of what he felt his niche was that was his uh what would

01:07:13.540 separate him from everybody else which it did um you know and i'm kind of like the the the recipient

01:07:20.640 of of his lunacy yeah you know because like i said i didn't i didn't want any part of it i didn't

01:07:27.480 I was like, I don't think we need to do it.

01:07:29.460 We didn't even talk about the streak.

01:07:30.960 I know you have an 11 out.

01:07:32.120 We didn't even talk about the streak at all.

01:07:33.720 He's got to go.

01:07:34.320 Things we missed that the WWE fans are going to ream us for,

01:07:37.260 but I just want to mention just so they know we were going to,

01:07:39.580 because we could have a four-hour podcast on this.

01:07:41.980 Obviously, Kane, your streak, Brock Lesnar, Paul, Paul Bearer.

01:07:46.720 We're going to have to pin it, dude.

01:07:48.400 We're going to have to do part two.

01:07:49.620 Bring me back, man.

01:07:50.600 Our paths cross quite a bit now.

01:07:53.280 It's his timing, not ours, by the way.

01:07:54.980 You just throw me under the bus.

01:07:56.720 Well, he has a flight because we're going to get in trouble.

01:07:59.280 They're going to yell at us.

01:08:00.800 They're going to yell at us.

01:08:02.340 If I come back, he's got to be gone.

01:08:03.920 Fine, fine, fine.

01:08:04.680 I can't work with him, man.

01:08:05.520 That's fine, dude.

01:08:06.740 Unless, okay, is there anything else you want to end on?

01:08:09.340 Dude, I'll come back.

01:08:12.020 I'll get probably the next 25 years of that career we hadn't got to yet.

01:08:16.220 But I appreciate you having me on, man, and I'm sorry.

01:08:20.100 I've got to catch a plane.

01:08:22.380 But I know we've been trying to do this for a while,

01:08:25.120 So I'll definitely come back and take the hot seat again.

01:08:30.100 Okay, excellent.

01:08:30.860 Cool.

01:08:34.440 Wow.

01:08:36.380 That's crazy.

01:08:38.360 Where'd he go?

01:08:39.200 Yeah, that's his thing.

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Impaulsive with Logan Paul - August 06, 2024

The Undertaker Interview

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