Impaulsive with Logan Paul - UFC Champion Tom Aspinall On Jon Jones DUCKING Him, Jake Paul VS Dana White, CM Punk’s UFC Fail

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00:00:28.440 He's the interim UFC heavyweight champion

00:00:31.420 Tom Aspinall

00:00:32.340 Is Jon Jones scared to fight you?

00:00:36.020 Didn't want to fight in Ghana for three years

00:00:37.680 Now he's not wanting to fight me for over a year

00:00:39.580 Conning the public man

00:00:41.000 Is that fight f***ing happening?

00:00:43.320 I think you're getting a reality check on a regular basis 0.60

00:00:45.500 If you do some kind of combat sport

00:00:46.860 I mean you do combat sports

00:00:47.780 I'm just fighting for my life

00:00:50.060 You'd be sick at WWE

00:00:54.180 That's maybe something I would look at during

00:00:55.920 When I've retired from MMA

00:00:56.940 I would love to do that

00:00:57.720 Hell yeah. I will openly speak about how scared I am when I fight.

00:01:00.500 Whether it's Jon Jones or somebody else, I'm going to look him in the eye

00:01:02.580 and I'm going to be like, I'm f***ing scared, but I'm coming for you.

00:01:04.680 And one of us is probably going to be separated from our consciousness. 0.99

00:01:07.680 Damn. Potential Logan Paul UFC arc. 0.99

00:01:09.980 Dude, I'm not CM Punk.

00:01:11.220 Yeah, he wasn't very good.

00:01:12.000 My skill is wrestling. It all depends on the opponent, don't it?

00:01:14.320 I have some names of mine, but like...

00:01:15.740 Oh, go on, tell us a few.

00:01:16.680 I mean...

00:01:17.400 What did I tell you when I texted you before?

00:01:27.020 I'm having a mental breakdown and I need you to be better than me today

00:01:30.840 You're off to a horrible start

00:01:32.480 I just got here in Londonville

00:01:33.960 Me too

00:01:34.640 And I know you slept on the plane

00:01:36.840 Four hours

00:01:37.860 Oh, that's not that good

00:01:38.920 No, no, not good

00:01:40.580 But you know what I did do? 1.00

00:01:42.900 I would say, but there's a woman in the room

00:01:44.780 I think we could 0.99

00:01:45.840 But I would assume that's what it is

00:01:48.080 What do they call you? Had a wank? 0.85

00:01:50.320 Had a wank

00:01:50.780 It's not illegal on the plane

00:01:54.840 It's not just around the room

00:01:56.760 Is that true?

00:02:00.120 No, no, he just kept, like, dropping.

00:02:01.620 Oh, okay.

00:02:03.100 Are we rolling, Caleb?

00:02:04.340 Yeah.

00:02:04.740 Okay, we are rolling.

00:02:05.800 So we got all that?

00:02:06.700 So we got all that.

00:02:07.800 That's fantastic.

00:02:09.180 He is going to do headphones?

00:02:10.500 I think so.

00:02:11.120 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:11.500 Damn it. 1.00

00:02:12.000 Check, check, check. 1.00

00:02:13.100 It's better.

00:02:13.500 It's clear.

00:02:14.000 All right.

00:02:14.960 All right, here we go.

00:02:16.720 Ladies and gentlemen, he's the interim UFC heavyweight championship.

00:02:21.680 Oh, he is?

00:02:22.620 He's an inanimate object.

00:02:23.780 He seems like a human, dude. 1.00

00:02:26.000 Ladies. 0.87

00:02:26.320 can you turn me up

00:02:27.380 in the headphones a little bit

00:02:28.140 that's all

00:02:28.680 that's

00:02:28.980 yeah I have like weird

00:02:29.840 I can't hear

00:02:30.820 I just can't hear myself

00:02:31.720 that well

00:02:32.120 I can go up

00:02:32.780 just give me a second

00:02:34.280 yeah

00:02:34.660 it's like one of our

00:02:36.340 first times doing this

00:02:37.280 so

00:02:37.460 this is our first podcast

00:02:38.480 I think that's a lie

00:02:40.160 that's definitely a lie

00:02:41.160 we're deep

00:02:42.120 we shouldn't be 0.99

00:02:42.640 fucking around like this 1.00

00:02:43.480 we're jet lagged 0.99

00:02:44.540 ladies and gentlemen

00:02:45.280 it's Tom Aspinall

00:02:46.620 yeah

00:02:46.920 yeah

00:02:47.800 the interim

00:02:50.840 UFC heavyweight

00:02:52.200 champion of the world

00:02:53.240 it's Tom Aspinall

00:02:55.360 yeah

00:02:55.700 wait what why why'd we do that twice i'd like the the prefacing it with his his title and then

00:03:04.100 getting into his name perfect oh we will air both right i think so okay cool yeah what's up tom how

00:03:09.040 are you tom i'm doing all right thanks yeah you seem like a just a a proper bloke yeah i think

00:03:14.680 well is that a compliment i'll take it if it is yeah yeah i think i am dude i walked in you

00:03:18.940 you reached your hand out you said tom nice to meet you yeah formal formal yeah yeah you're like

00:03:24.500 a professional yeah i think so yeah how do you maintain hingeness when it's your job to murder

00:03:31.720 people for you know what i'm saying like it balances out if i didn't have the job maybe i

00:03:35.680 would be a little bit more unhinged maybe i don't know it's difficult to say because i've been

00:03:39.740 involved with like martial arts since i was like eight years old so i don't really know life without

00:03:44.160 without it so um i think it does keep me sane hopefully i'm going to stay sane when i retire

00:03:51.500 and stuff but we'll see doesn't martial arts and you say martial arts specifically right like yeah

00:03:57.080 like what kind of martial arts well i've been involved in basically not every martial art but

00:04:01.220 a lot so is it like uh is it true that it's kind of like a centeredness it teaches you like morality

00:04:06.720 and integrity and and when to use your power and when not to i think so i think so yeah um

00:04:12.800 i think it it teaches you like how to control yourself a little bit like i know i think you're

00:04:19.580 getting a reality check on a regular basis if you do some kind of combat sport i mean you do

00:04:23.500 combat sports you do you not agree yeah yeah yeah like i'm just fighting for my life yeah yeah yeah

00:04:27.620 yeah you can tell you can tell no the jacket's nice the jacket is nice i said that as well no

00:04:35.660 but i think you get a reality check pretty often like your ego gets checked like if you're not in

00:04:40.820 the gym consistently you are gonna get checked literally you're gonna get punched or kicked in

00:04:45.240 the face what was the biggest ego check of the past year that you saw watching ufc is there a

00:04:53.020 moment that i think that no no because i think that the top level guys like the elite level guys

00:04:57.980 we're all aware of what can happen like you zigwing you should have zagged especially at heavyweight

00:05:02.780 do you know what i mean like there's sometimes it doesn't even matter if you make a mistake or not

00:05:06.560 if you get hit with one with those tiny little gloves on we're talking massive guys like you're

00:05:11.400 going over so i don't think that anybody's i mean we all have egos obviously we're professional

00:05:16.360 athletes we're big guys we're spent our life doing it but i think that everyone's on the

00:05:21.680 same page where we all know that we can lose at any time i think sometimes the ego check too is

00:05:25.980 like somebody bringing something to remind you that you may not be as well-rounded as you should 0.68

00:05:33.100 be and i think back to like morab and sugar who's you know damn you're just gonna do sean like that

00:05:40.580 well i mean let's let's put it like this one of the greatest strikers in the league for sure

00:05:45.400 incredible to watch but i think he now he knows that he he got checked and he has to go back and

00:05:52.220 work on that takedown game he's gonna fight him again right you know what though that's what that's

00:05:55.180 one of the most beautiful things about mma is that you get time to work on it and go again

00:05:59.780 do you know like in boxing for example you lose that's it like you're out of the picture whereas

00:06:04.040 in mma it's like you keep going but you know what sean i think he has the persona of like a cocky

00:06:08.580 guy but i don't think he's really like that like he's really flamboyant on social media on youtube

00:06:12.780 and all the rest of it but i think that sean is like a grounded guy who works hard from my

00:06:17.880 experience we know we know him very yeah he's fully locked in him and timmy and right now he's

00:06:22.720 just completely off the grid he's not on social media i think after that fight he you know got

00:06:28.140 back to got back to work like very seriously and i think he'll come back and get the job done next

00:06:32.180 time that was you know i wasn't trying to be critical i thought that was you know you think

00:06:36.060 you think he's going to win the rematch

00:06:38.580 tough fight that guy's tough as hell that guy's tough as hell he's just got to work in that those 0.98

00:06:43.320 damn takedowns see for me mirabi's like i don't know what's going on with him because his cardio 0.96

00:06:48.320 and conditioning is unbelievable yeah i've never seen anything like it his last fight was like one 0.98

00:06:51.960 of the best fights i've ever yeah because he just goes and goes and goes like he will not stop

00:06:55.980 going at somebody i've never seen anything like that guy he's unbelievable i mean you wouldn't

00:06:59.760 know about your cardio really because you have the shortest i've not got any i just don't like

00:07:05.700 after a minute.

00:07:06.320 I just exhaust myself.

00:07:07.260 That's not true.

00:07:08.140 But that's what everybody thinks.

00:07:09.460 That's what everybody thinks.

00:07:10.120 Well, we wouldn't know, bro.

00:07:10.900 You have the shortest average fight time

00:07:14.540 in UFC history at two minutes and two seconds.

00:07:18.560 That's good.

00:07:19.120 How would we know if you can go?

00:07:20.780 I don't.

00:07:21.300 It's a mystery for everybody.

00:07:22.500 You know what I absolutely love?

00:07:23.720 It's one of my favorite things about my style

00:07:27.200 is that nobody knows anything about me.

00:07:29.740 Like, I'm sure we're going to get to some

00:07:31.100 Jon Jones conversations at some point.

00:07:32.820 Jon is a massive studier of...

00:07:35.700 his opponents yeah he's a massive tape studier like that's one of the things that he does best

00:07:39.740 and the tapes are just not really out there of me and the fact that i live over here as well

00:07:45.000 i think it's a massive i think some people see it like as a detriment living in the uk away from

00:07:49.320 for me personally i think it's amazing because like when i go to vegas and training like i see

00:07:53.900 how intertwined everybody is with each other's business and stuff and like i'm out here and i'm

00:07:59.240 just doing my own thing and nobody knows anything about me and i love it you don't think he's got

00:08:02.860 any spies out mi5 type people nope that are watching the camps studying i don't think so 0.90

00:08:09.380 taking secret gopro videos and shit i mean they might be pigeons maybe maybe you never know 0.99

00:08:14.500 let's ask this question right now for the clip is john jones scared to fight you yes 0.99

00:08:22.100 absolutely i mean the thing with john john is conning the public man whoa and logan paul

00:08:32.440 it's his favorite fighter yeah oh is it really well listen i mean he's definitely top three

00:08:37.160 he's definitely top absolutely i'm not disputing that he's an amazing fighter i think the fact

00:08:41.600 that he um didn't want to fight in gano for three years and now he's not wanting to fight me for

00:08:48.640 over a year and he just the way he manipulates the the media and the public is super smart i'm not

00:08:55.140 taking anything away from him but do i think he's scared to take the the tough the tough fights at

00:08:59.700 this stage in his career absolutely can you understand that absolutely yeah i can you like

00:09:05.500 can empathize with that i respect it i respect it but if you're going to ask me the straight-up

00:09:09.520 question is john jones afraid to fight me the honest answer would be yes well well is regardless

00:09:15.220 of that and and that fear because clearly he's he's overcome it at times in the past is that 0.78

00:09:21.580 fight fucking happening i cannot say or deny no right now we're actually waiting for news we have 0.96

00:09:28.980 had to do i'm chasing it up like the ufc are saying that it's going to happen i'm chasing it 0.99

00:09:34.140 all the time i want the fight really bad you know what it's not even like i see people online saying

00:09:39.000 like you know the thing that happened with connor and um chandler yeah people are like don't be like

00:09:45.200 michael chandler yeah listen it's not about the fighting john it's about the ufc heavyweight title

00:09:49.920 yeah like i've got a version of the title but i want to i want to be the undisputed champion

00:09:53.600 that's all it is it doesn't matter about john i'm trying to be the undisputed heavyweight champion

00:09:57.660 that's it yeah i'm not chasing one fight if i can fight john and get the biggest scalp in mma

00:10:02.960 absolutely i'll take it do you know what i mean and it's a great time for me because

00:10:07.100 he is slowing down a little bit and i've not even reached my prime yet so

00:10:11.100 spoken like a true a side right there i mean i'm not the a side i'm not going to start

00:10:16.600 pretending that guy's going to get 30 million dollars to fight me he's definitely the a side

00:10:20.360 but um it's i definitely think it's a fight that i can win when he came back against uh

00:10:27.640 surreal yeah you watch that fight yeah were you surprised at how good he still was after all these

00:10:33.820 years and moving up to heavyweight no you know what i think john like you said i think he's one

00:10:38.400 of the best fighters ever definitely top three that's debatable when you start putting in about

00:10:43.520 drug tests and stuff like that i think damn um but he definitely likes skill for skill he's one

00:10:49.240 of the top three fighters ever i'm not debating that at all what drug what drug are you talking 0.95

00:10:53.020 about specifically well he's done a few i think he's done a few i can't i can't tolerate the john

00:10:59.260 jones slander rose it was a flu it is it was a recreational you know he has fun is slander not

00:11:05.880 when you're saying something that's inaccurate that's that is true no no i don't think that's

00:11:09.760 the definition of it it is somebody's libel i think i think i think slander the definition

00:11:16.740 is that you've said something that that's not true when you say something that's true

00:11:20.220 saying yeah you're in the you're in the clear on buddy i'm trying i'm trying bro i ran into him at

00:11:26.420 the inauguration such a nice guy also just proper bloke man it would be crazy to see you guys fight

00:11:31.560 though that they i would i would i think it's probably the biggest fight in mma i think so

00:11:36.140 yeah i think i mean you got a few big fights you got like ddp and cams up huge fight yeah you've

00:11:41.100 got ilia tiporian possibly fighting islam makachev massive fight but i think i mean i'm obviously

00:11:46.500 by us but i always want to see the heavyweights fight like that of course when the heavyweight

00:11:51.500 fight is on even if they're not the main event it's for me it's just the most exciting because

00:11:55.840 like you said you just never know those little gloves yeah you just need guys yeah a chin is a

00:12:00.480 chin hit that button on someone's face and they turn off i completely and the world wants this

00:12:06.980 fight like you yeah it's it's you go you see these pressers and everybody in the crowd at least a ton

00:12:13.740 of the uk people and a ton of americans are like this is the fight we want yeah dana news as of

00:12:20.400 what shit eight hours ago is already talking about the fight that comes after it so he's saying 0.50

00:12:26.820 basically that the winner is going to fight pareda i like it i love it who is a scarier opponent for 0.94

00:12:33.580 you alex or john i think that's a tough question you know what even though i might be saying all

00:12:39.160 this stuff about john or whatever i am not disputing his skills yeah no it doesn't sound

00:12:43.420 like it unbelievable it doesn't sound like it the same with alex one of the most dangerous guys in

00:12:48.140 my opinion to ever fight in the ufc he has that i don't even know what you call it he just has the

00:12:53.700 thing where he touches you and you just die do you know what i mean like he's unbelievable i've

00:12:57.680 never seen anybody does that translate to heavyweight i'm not sure how does his punch

00:13:02.700 resistance look at heavyweight because he has been knocked out yeah middleweight before uh but again

00:13:07.600 you could put that that down to cutting weight like when you're taking loads of um like fluid

00:13:12.540 out your body and away from your brain and stuff

00:13:14.200 and you're cutting a lot of weight the day before

00:13:16.260 and you get punched clean

00:13:17.460 like that's what he was doing before so maybe his

00:13:20.240 chin's a little bit better, I don't know

00:13:21.760 he's also not

00:13:24.140 been getting hit

00:13:25.720 he's been so, as of these recent

00:13:28.440 fights, he's been

00:13:29.600 looked surgical in some of these

00:13:32.440 past fights, every shot is landing

00:13:34.540 the combos are incredible

00:13:36.240 and it's like, he's

00:13:38.560 easily one of the most dangerous fighters

00:13:40.340 in the sport right now

00:13:41.700 He gets hit, but even if he does, it doesn't faze him at all.

00:13:47.180 Yeah, like at all.

00:13:48.120 He just runs through it.

00:13:49.240 This just depends on what fight you're in.

00:13:50.320 Man, the first ever three-division champion would be insane.

00:13:52.740 It would be.

00:13:53.280 Well, not if he takes my belt.

00:13:55.240 Yeah, no.

00:13:56.260 If he does it against someone else, that's pretty cool, but if it's against me.

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00:17:07.460 And he's gonna whisk you away and I'll never see you again

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00:17:09.900 Oh, this is awkward

00:17:12.700 Would you say D-less actor?

00:17:14.620 D?

00:17:16.580 I don't even know there's such a thing as D

00:17:18.300 No, no, no, I mean like

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00:17:34.400 You mentioned it when talking about your title.

00:17:36.800 You said it's a version of the championship.

00:17:39.060 Yeah.

00:17:39.480 And, you know, it is the interim heavyweight championship.

00:17:42.500 Does that bother you?

00:17:44.560 Can you still feel proud that you are the current UFC heavyweight champion?

00:17:48.700 No, you know what?

00:17:49.660 I'm currently ranked number one in the world, which is amazing.

00:17:52.300 but I want to be known

00:17:53.680 as the best

00:17:54.980 I don't like

00:17:56.000 see this is for me

00:17:57.220 this is where the UFC

00:17:58.480 separates from like boxing

00:17:59.760 because in boxing

00:18:01.380 you got

00:18:01.800 a million divisions

00:18:03.000 and you got

00:18:03.920 five or six champions

00:18:05.280 at each weight

00:18:05.960 and it's like

00:18:07.000 this guy's a world champion

00:18:07.940 oh what about this guy

00:18:09.080 oh this guy's a world champion

00:18:10.000 as well

00:18:10.240 oh what about this

00:18:10.760 oh so they've got like

00:18:11.760 five champions

00:18:12.480 and that's a bit weird for me

00:18:13.520 like I think they should be like

00:18:14.940 one face

00:18:15.480 one name

00:18:15.980 every division

00:18:16.640 and I obviously want it to be me

00:18:18.920 whereas John's like

00:18:19.920 doing some weird stuff about it

00:18:21.200 like

00:18:21.420 like i say the problem isn't with john the problem is the fact that he's sitting on the

00:18:24.640 belt and not doing anything so i think that to answer your question i want to be known as the

00:18:30.300 guy at heavyweight or at least have a shot you know like just give me a shot give me the

00:18:34.480 opportunity to do it and uh i think i can do it how much of it do you think is drawing john out

00:18:40.580 like you personally versus i don't deal size dana like is there something you could say right now

00:18:46.940 like down the pipe that's gonna that's gonna get him out of that wherever he is i don't i don't i

00:18:52.620 don't think much of it i think he just wants money you know i just think he wants money yeah i mean

00:18:56.360 dude it's a huge it's the fight it is the fight i think it's down to him and dana or whoever else

00:19:02.600 yeah dana loves john jones he's trying to grease up his ego a little bit maybe i don't know i don't

00:19:09.820 know what he's trying to do but i think ultimately john's just after some money and fair play like i

00:19:14.340 would be the same well again you are a dangerous fight so it has to be worth it if it doesn't go 0.92

00:19:18.240 his his way you know that he can still walk home and be like damn i just made you know x million

00:19:23.500 dollars and i and i feel fine yeah um you were mentioning some of the the guys in the ufc right

00:19:28.420 now some of the super fights and everyone is such a good fighter right now i feel like the talent in

00:19:32.380 the ufc has gotten so so good yeah um how do you feel about the ufc as a as an entertainment vehicle

00:19:39.380 at the moment i mean i can only speak for how it looks in the uk because it's where i live this

00:19:44.320 where I'm from yeah and since like after the pandemic it just went massive like we had a few

00:19:50.440 big shows at the O2 arena and if you're from the UK like that's the place that you want to you want

00:19:55.120 to fight you know what I mean yeah for sure like I'm from Manchester I'm not from London but it's

00:19:58.320 like if you're fighting in London in the O2 arena it's like for us it's massive so um we had a few

00:20:04.140 massive shows there and it's just it's skyrocketed in this country now it's huge and just the level

00:20:10.180 the level is like i went to a local show on the weekend i've not been to a local show for maybe 0.87

00:20:15.060 five years and i'm seeing in seeing like amateur female fights two girls who are like 18 19 and

00:20:21.700 the skills are unbelievable like um like it's what you used to see in the ufc like 10 years ago and

00:20:27.360 now you're seeing like amateur girls with like one or two fights doing the same thing as like

00:20:31.840 ufc fighters did 10 years ago it's unbelievable how how much how far it's come it's insane you

00:20:36.560 see like highlights of some of the greats yeah uh and they just don't it doesn't look as as

00:20:42.800 competitive as it's really weird you say that because uh recently i was watching a crow cup

00:20:47.420 yeah and crow cup is like one of the one of my heroes of course and i was watching him fight a

00:20:52.400 guy and i didn't actually know the guy was it was a ufc fight um and i was watching i was like

00:20:56.620 these two like don't look very good you know like because i'm used to watching and i'm not saying

00:21:01.300 crow cup isn't good by any stretch of the imagination but compared to like today's mma it's

00:21:05.480 just the levels are so different now than they were like 15 years ago feels way different yeah

00:21:10.820 so different okay and i have or i see guys like ariel hawani saying at the moment he thinks ufc

00:21:19.100 is lacking like a star it had there's a serious like superstar problem i don't think it's just

00:21:25.420 him saying that either it's kind of it's a little bit of the sentiment right now in terms of the

00:21:29.360 i think it was it was where your question about entertainment value was going like it's it's

00:21:33.740 we've entered this like dagestani rush like wrestling period like some are already calling

00:21:39.340 it the boring era of the ufc i'm not personally saying that by the way neither is anyone on this

00:21:44.700 podcast logan paul or the impulsive podcast as a whole or tom aspinall i should say that right now

00:21:48.340 but people are saying it some people are saying that and so like who is going to be the person that

00:21:54.060 brings that bravado that knockout style because because it was sean for a second like people

00:21:59.760 really loved watching sean they loved watching him knock people out and then all of a sudden 0.99

00:22:04.140 you got this fucking little fucking takedown problem that ruined the day you know and it's 0.98

00:22:10.660 like well i think that's quite subjective to be honest i think uh listen i'm a sean guy no i mean 0.99

00:22:16.160 i like sean as well of course he's one of my favorite fighters to be honest but um i actually

00:22:20.800 like that daggy standing style of rest i actually really appreciate it for what it is because it's

00:22:25.180 really hard to um to pull off that kind of stuff but i think when you got guys like ilia taporia

00:22:30.680 who's in the mix now ddp and especially these guys are coming from like all over the world

00:22:35.100 do you know what i mean like we're not just i don't know i feel like the american bravado style

00:22:40.180 of being like cocky and and stuff no offense but i think that that's like only is mainly

00:22:47.260 appreciated like in america but like the other stuff like if you take a daggy standing guy and

00:22:52.900 walking around the streets he's not going to be able to move he's going to be that popular do you

00:22:55.840 know what i mean so i think i think that's looking at it from like a very north american point of

00:23:00.940 view whereas in other parts of the world i think they appreciate a bit differently makes complete

00:23:04.580 sense yeah and you and you've seen like i get that completely like certain countries value

00:23:10.160 respect ritual tradition so much more than america does and we we see you know a connor we see you 0.98

00:23:18.300 know some psychopath like that screaming and talking shit to somebody and we're like wow 0.97

00:23:22.300 that's so fun you know we are it's a good point we're very different people certainly yeah i mean 0.98

00:23:27.000 it's definitely like a culture thing and i'm you know an american i'm from ohio i i partially watch

00:23:32.880 for the sport but at the end of the day i want to be entertained you know i want to see a dolly 0.99

00:23:37.000 going through a fucking bus yeah you like that yeah you know like i want to see shit fall apart 0.99

00:23:42.100 yeah yeah do you plan on throwing a dolly through a bus or anything you know what i think you you 1.00

00:23:46.260 always have to like play to you to your strengths to like your personality and i think that the

00:23:52.720 public can see if that's not your personality and you're trying it like especially when connor was

00:23:56.740 in we've seen so many guys trying to be connor so true yeah you just and you see through i personally 0.98

00:24:02.180 just look at it i'm just like what the fuck is this like what this is so corny anybody particular 0.97

00:24:06.440 that you comes to mind a lot of uk guys did it like on the local scene like trying to be connor 0.99

00:24:11.840 and it's just like

00:24:12.720 what are you doing

00:24:13.540 like

00:24:14.040 if that is your personality

00:24:15.540 absolutely like

00:24:16.660 take your personality

00:24:17.840 to the next level

00:24:18.520 and go for that

00:24:19.200 but if you

00:24:19.640 if that's not you

00:24:20.740 then I think you should

00:24:21.940 take your own strengths

00:24:22.880 and run with

00:24:23.660 run with whatever

00:24:24.360 you're good at

00:24:24.920 do you know what I mean

00:24:25.440 so I think

00:24:26.540 I do like to see it

00:24:27.760 but if your personality

00:24:29.200 isn't going throwing

00:24:30.540 dollies through a bus

00:24:31.380 like that's not really my seat

00:24:32.660 yeah

00:24:33.000 like I'm not going to

00:24:33.940 just going to start doing it

00:24:34.900 just to like

00:24:35.560 try and make money

00:24:36.600 or whatever

00:24:37.020 or get eyes up

00:24:37.700 like I feel like

00:24:38.280 I've got other ways

00:24:39.040 like me personally

00:24:40.620 like 0.99

00:24:41.840 I've got to hit you once to knock you out. 0.97

00:24:43.820 Like, if that isn't exciting for people, 0.97

00:24:46.140 then they aren't fans of the sport.

00:24:48.280 Do you know what I mean?

00:24:48.780 Like, if they want to watch, like, a drama show,

00:24:51.940 like, go and do that thing. 0.98

00:24:53.420 But for me personally, I'm trying to fucking knock people 0.99

00:24:55.720 unconscious, man. 0.99

00:24:56.560 And, like, if you don't like that, then go and do something else.

00:25:00.580 That's a great answer.

00:25:01.540 That was sick.

00:25:01.980 That was sick.

00:25:03.120 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:03.860 Dude, such a wise answer.

00:25:05.760 And I like it, too, because you're basically saying be yourself

00:25:09.680 in a roundabout way authenticity especially nowadays because you mean you're so right like

00:25:15.720 dude i was i was one of those guys trying to be connor like like when we first got into boxing

00:25:21.580 me and jake we were like we're gonna wear suits like connor but it's it does sell though and it's

00:25:26.440 so but i think that if you have that in you a little bit then definitely like exaggerate that

00:25:31.500 yeah yeah but if you don't you're just completely faking it i think that people are just like what 0.94

00:25:35.540 the fuck yeah no no we we had a we had a little bit of it but but and and now i think we have our 0.85

00:25:40.760 version of it but i look back and i could see me like like um emulating and not being but also 0.98

00:25:48.240 at the time we were so young like i didn't really know we didn't really know who we were definitely

00:25:53.900 yeah you know what i'm saying like i'm sure it took you a while to like come into your own and

00:25:57.420 realize what your strengths were that you're still still working on it yeah still working on it do

00:26:01.200 know what i mean but i definitely like i'm nearly 32 so like like we spoke about before i'm like

00:26:06.020 married with three kids and i've got the whole thing going so i think as you get older and

00:26:10.200 progress through life you just naturally start gravitating to what your morals are do you know

00:26:15.220 what i mean and um yeah i'm still learning don't get i've not mastered life or this career by any

00:26:20.220 stretch of the imagination but i know what i'm all about and i know what i want to get across

00:26:23.380 and what i want to do so i'm uh i'm just working on that got a good head on your shoulders i'm

00:26:28.460 We need some thoughts on the potential Logan Paul UFC arc.

00:26:38.120 Let's talk about this for a second.

00:26:39.480 What weight are you?

00:26:40.500 What's your weight? 0.99

00:26:42.240 I'd probably fight 185, which is a tough fucking weight class. 0.99

00:26:46.320 So name some of your opponents in that class. 0.97

00:26:48.220 Who would you be fighting against?

00:26:49.740 At one point, Pereira. 1.00

00:26:51.600 I think Drupas.

00:26:52.620 DDP.

00:26:53.180 DDP is the man at the minute.

00:26:54.300 Yeah, it's tough.

00:26:56.280 It's tough.

00:26:56.600 it would have been easy at one point um is it too is it too late in his for him to well i've seen

00:27:04.660 you do like you seem like really i actually seen you do the wrestling stuff i was a massive fan i

00:27:10.140 actually went to a wrestling event recently oh yeah so you met cody uh yeah i was i was with

00:27:15.020 cody yeah cody roads what a nice guy as well cool guy one of the best yeah awesome guy and i actually

00:27:20.060 really that's maybe something i would look at doing when i've retired from a i would love to

00:27:23.960 do that stuff that is cool like i was not only the entertainment side but the athletic side i was

00:27:29.000 so fucking impressed with what these guys are doing it's unbelievable but i don't i don't think 0.64

00:27:33.720 you're too old like how old are you you're not 30 29 yeah you i think almost 30 though i think you 0.96

00:27:38.980 can still do it i could i could get one for the right opponent but it wouldn't be a ddp dude it's 0.98

00:27:42.600 i'm not i'm not i'm not fighting for a world title or fuck it did you speak to um did you have any

00:27:49.480 let's get it did you have any conversation with the UFC about it um I did I told Dana uh for UFC 0.87

00:27:55.060 300 I texted him I said hey man like consider me available to fight on the undercard in the sphere

00:28:00.500 um yeah basically completely ignored me no which I think smoke volumes haven't bothered him about

00:28:08.040 it since uh but you know I I think uh I think for the right fight the right amount of money like

00:28:14.620 man I'm an entertainer at the end of the day um I mean I would watch it yeah bro bro I think

00:28:19.460 a lot of people would watch him because of his yeah his overall perceived ineptitude in the space 0.96

00:28:26.120 people would be like this is my best opportunity to see did you follow like the cm punk saga when

00:28:30.540 he was like in the u.s thing still i did could you not do something like kind of goes down the 0.59

00:28:37.640 similar path he fucked it up yeah he wasn't very good no and he fucked it up and after that dana 0.87

00:28:42.580 was like i'm never doing this again yeah but like dude i'm not cm punk no you well you definitely 0.91

00:28:48.480 don't move like him from the little stuff that i've seen no the boxing and stuff he's a great

00:28:52.800 wrestler not a ufc fighter i'm not not a great ufc fighter um and i think i would be a much better

00:29:02.020 ufc fighter than i would just a boxer you think so well my skill is wrestling okay like i'm a i

00:29:07.920 did see a video of you wrestling actually yeah who was that with at the pi it was with uh paulo

00:29:12.400 yeah you know um but but you know you know i think i found a path dude like i'm a i'm a wwe

00:29:19.620 superstar now yeah and and it's it's it's it's one of the only things i've done in my life where

00:29:24.320 i feel so at home like like oh you were kind of like mentioning this thing and so i don't know

00:29:30.980 if i want to like turn away from that at the moment and dedicate time to something that is

00:29:35.660 that is would be like a side quest at this point you got to put a lot of time in if you want to be

00:29:39.380 a good level

00:29:40.160 yeah bro

00:29:40.760 but it all depends

00:29:41.860 on the opponent

00:29:42.380 don't it

00:29:42.660 like if you're going

00:29:43.180 to fight an actual

00:29:43.960 MMA fighter

00:29:44.700 like me

00:29:45.740 who's been going

00:29:46.360 since I was 8 years old

00:29:47.300 like it's going to be

00:29:48.640 tricky to be honest

00:29:49.580 but if you're going

00:29:52.420 to fight somebody else

00:29:53.240 who's like kind of

00:29:54.580 in something else

00:29:55.140 and switching over

00:29:55.780 like you

00:29:56.100 I think it could

00:29:56.600 easily be doing

00:29:57.140 that would be it

00:29:57.460 it would be a co-main

00:29:59.000 event of someone else

00:30:00.260 who's like their

00:30:00.700 first MMA fighter

00:30:01.500 I have some names

00:30:02.260 of mine but like

00:30:03.020 you know

00:30:03.680 oh go on

00:30:04.160 tell us a few

00:30:04.620 go on

00:30:05.260 I mean

00:30:05.940 yeah who exists

00:30:09.320 in that realm there's there's there's a i don't even want to say i don't even want to say it

00:30:13.460 because it's pointless but like people know who people know who would be like good contenders for

00:30:18.420 this um well well no i'm just i'm done saying names because it's just pointless yeah no one

00:30:24.520 actually follows up or is interested and again dude i'm like i'm doing wwe i'm i'm involved now

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00:32:57.540 and all the nitty-gritty stuff we all think about,

00:33:00.140 but just don't say it out loud.

00:33:01.260 I hate that job.

00:33:02.140 You're probably just going to meet with some rich guy

00:33:03.680 and he's going to whisk you away

00:33:04.840 and I'll never see you again.

00:33:07.280 Well, this is awkward. 0.88

00:33:09.020 Would you say a D-less actor?

00:33:10.820 D?

00:33:12.800 I don't even know there's such a thing as D.

00:33:14.640 No, no, no.

00:33:15.280 I mean, like...

00:33:15.820 I can't even get on the C-list?

00:33:16.740 Like, I'm not even average?

00:33:17.580 I'm not even passing?

00:33:18.560 I'm failing?

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00:33:26.480 apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast you'd be sick at wwe honestly i went and

00:33:35.100 like you say my personality is not this whole bravado thing but i went and i actually met 0.93

00:33:41.420 the guys who were involved with wwe the wrestlers and the staff and i was like this is fucking like 0.54

00:33:46.220 i like this like i like it a lot and i got in the ring we had like a little cameo for me i didn't 0.78

00:33:50.840 actually get to wrestle because the ufc put the blockers on that yeah sure i'm sure but i would

00:33:55.180 I thought maybe they'll let me throw

00:33:56.560 like one or two punches just to,

00:33:58.220 but they didn't let me.

00:33:59.480 But I would absolutely,

00:34:01.340 that's something that I would really enjoy doing.

00:34:03.960 Just like as a little outlet

00:34:06.000 when I finish from fighting,

00:34:07.020 because I think I've been pretty open

00:34:08.520 with my fighting career.

00:34:09.480 Like I want to be done sooner rather than later.

00:34:11.700 I would rather be a couple too early

00:34:13.680 than a couple too late

00:34:14.560 because now we get into the realm

00:34:16.680 and I don't want to like sit on the podcast

00:34:19.200 and name drop anybody

00:34:20.260 who's struggling at the moment.

00:34:22.100 But there's a couple of peers

00:34:23.440 who are like the generation above me

00:34:25.340 who I'm close friends with now

00:34:26.580 and those guys

00:34:29.560 are struggling yeah it's like you should have called it

00:34:31.120 yeah like physically do you think it's

00:34:33.140 a money thing though like

00:34:35.060 you still gotta make money

00:34:37.000 after you are done fighting

00:34:39.480 and if that's the only real thing you know

00:34:41.540 how to do to generate a significant amount of income

00:34:43.580 well I don't know because

00:34:45.000 I think if you're

00:34:47.560 like an elite level and you're fighting for it

00:34:49.420 like you're making money but

00:34:51.080 I think it's just like in us

00:34:53.460 like I've been doing this thing

00:34:55.860 all my life

00:34:57.000 that's what I've got is it's like

00:34:58.840 fight, the fight's over

00:35:01.260 spend a little chill time

00:35:02.600 then I get another date, start training again

00:35:05.340 that's all I know and when that's gone

00:35:07.460 what replaces it and also

00:35:09.120 what replaces

00:35:10.580 25,000 people screaming your name

00:35:13.320 playing in the Sidemen Charity Match

00:35:15.040 what does that, what replaces

00:35:16.480 playing in the Sidemen Charity Match

00:35:17.640 that's like 90,000 isn't it

00:35:21.040 that's a lot of people

00:35:22.380 no do you know what

00:35:23.980 I think the feeling

00:35:25.360 that I will miss the most

00:35:26.580 and it's one of the scariest feelings

00:35:28.600 is being sat in that arena

00:35:30.080 and I fought all over the world

00:35:31.440 at this point

00:35:31.900 and you sat there

00:35:33.120 and you're getting your hands wrapped

00:35:35.100 the officials wrapping your hands

00:35:36.960 and you can hear the roar of the crowd

00:35:39.200 like it's shaking the walls

00:35:40.240 and you know that somewhere

00:35:41.400 and you are scared to get in there

00:35:43.200 and you know that somewhere else

00:35:44.660 in that arena

00:35:45.320 is somebody else getting their hands wrapped as well

00:35:47.400 and you guys are just going to meet in the middle

00:35:49.240 in front of millions of people

00:35:50.400 and just fight like and that sounds weird it sounded awesome the way you just put it

00:35:56.840 but that's what i look forward to is like those mental battles with yourself of there's another

00:36:03.560 guy in here going through the same thing as me and we don't know each other and we're just going

00:36:07.880 to go in there and one of us is probably going to be separated from our consciousness and we are

00:36:13.580 going to go home and continue life afterwards hopefully hopefully yeah and it's just uh what

00:36:18.340 replaces that i don't know so nothing like how do you you know that was one of the sickest like

00:36:24.740 verbal illustrations i've heard of that moment but like yeah what do you do do you go back to

00:36:30.080 you know the english countryside and and raise calves and get milk like what do you do dude you

00:36:36.560 know like what's what is there what type of equivalent is there in your well i don't know

00:36:41.120 sideband charity match sideband charity match why not would you ever consider being a youtuber

00:36:45.460 I mean I've got I've got a channel I've got a YouTube channel it's in its infancies but we're

00:36:49.560 doing all right we're doing well check it out Tom Aspinall official if you're not already please

00:36:52.800 it's actually in the description oh is it oh great oh thank you thank you do you do you like it I

00:36:57.580 like it yeah yeah it's just difficult to like I can't do it full-time because I have to train twice

00:37:01.800 a day like I have to train twice a day I have to be home I have to be in a routine I have to do

00:37:06.700 what it takes to be the best athlete in the world and that can't be me flying all over the world

00:37:12.240 doing different collaborations with different people all the stuff that it takes to be a

00:37:16.180 successful youtuber with you know full-time i can't do it at the moment it's stressed what what

00:37:20.600 type of uh what what's the content like oh we're just doing like different things like we're doing

00:37:25.760 like i try different sports that's like a bit of a theme that we've got going and like i collaborate

00:37:30.600 with different people showing a bit of mma and stuff like that just we're doing all right with

00:37:34.720 it like we've been going like a year and we're doing well i didn't know if you did like a uh

00:37:38.480 had a niche like volk cooking cooking oh that's awesome though volk was actually telling me now

00:37:43.600 that this p like his channel is doing so well that people don't even know that he's a ufc fighter

00:37:48.080 so that's hilarious that's wild that's absolutely amazing hey i was walking through security at la

00:37:54.540 accessory and said you're somebody said you're the guy with that burger and i said it was the

00:37:59.020 first time it ever happened and he was like you have the 10 10 burger right and i was like yeah

00:38:02.340 i was like have you seen the podcast he's like what where's the burger and i was like so it's

00:38:07.460 funny when people start to it's almost like a a credibility point a proof point for your

00:38:12.440 evolution it's cool but imagine volk actually just does become a straight up he totally good

00:38:17.240 and that's it a cooking niche youtuber if he loves it i love it's actually really good like

00:38:21.980 i've tuned in a couple of times oh really yeah you cook what's the food like we did uh was it

00:38:27.440 a smash burger i thought it was a burger a smash burger right i think so i mean it's no it was the

00:38:31.840 it was the quesadilla burger oh yeah oh yeah i don't know if the people really liked us very

00:38:36.580 very much i don't think people really like us that might be the easier way to put it

00:38:40.820 yeah i'm struggling i'll be honest i'm struggling

00:38:42.520 i feel like you're you're pretty likable you have haters yeah of course yeah yeah what do they hate

00:38:50.320 on i mean what do people not hate on these days i think that's that's a better question yeah i

00:38:57.660 think if you're in the public eye in any capacity not even in the public eye if you're doing like

00:39:01.520 something that other people don't want to do yeah like i'm from a town where nowhere and really does

00:39:06.400 anything i'm sure you guys are from a similar place and it's like if you put yourself out there

00:39:10.520 in any capacity people are going to hate on you that's just the way the world unfortunately so

00:39:13.840 weird success is the biggest it's not even always just success it's like even just it's it's

00:39:18.700 being different it's so unfamiliar for people and it's kind of like you you get shunned and

00:39:24.360 ridiculed like when you were growing up and you did you say like i want to be a ufc fighter i did

00:39:30.260 actually i actually did did anyone take you seriously i was actually always training like

00:39:35.100 my dad was an mma fighter before me my dad's a coach as well so he's like quite known around

00:39:39.380 the area and stuff so it was actually quite realistic believe it or not oh no way yeah it

00:39:43.320 was actually quite realistic like no one was like look at this guy everyone was like oh well fair

00:39:47.820 enough yeah i'm gonna try it so yeah i was actually uh i was very lucky in that regard

00:39:52.280 like a lot of people believed in me from yeah that must be nice yeah it was imagine me saying

00:39:56.760 i'm gonna be a bmx rider and i can't do anything i just suck so bad that was a crazy thing for you

00:40:03.000 to say i feel like yeah i've said i said multiple things i said i was going to go get my master's 0.52

00:40:08.380 at columbia i did all i ended up doing was heroin such a horrible turn dude like i made it out but

00:40:15.920 just barely see if people had told me yeah we believe in you to be the bmx writer i probably

00:40:20.220 would have skipped the drugs it's your peers fault yeah it's your being justin spear you 1.00

00:40:26.180 asshole yeah dude asshole dude i got the book out of it that was good at least that's good 1.00

00:40:31.300 your dad you still work with them they'll work with him is he your coach he's my coach i'm manager 0.99

00:40:35.440 oh yeah but you got a dadager uh oh yeah well i never heard that before yeah that's what we

00:40:42.000 call it in the states yeah i do yeah it's it's a thing in the united states oh it is britain

00:40:46.080 spears that's it it's not it's not britain spears level that ever happens no no we're doing that

00:40:51.260 we're doing all right i mean obviously we have the thing with having a dad as a manager and a

00:40:55.440 coach and all the rest of it is is sometimes it's like blurred lines do you know what i mean it's

00:41:00.100 at what point does it

00:41:01.700 become dad or coach

00:41:02.960 and sometimes it is

00:41:04.180 a bit tricky obviously

00:41:05.040 but

00:41:05.380 he's been amazing

00:41:07.700 do you have to

00:41:08.560 tell him which version

00:41:10.660 of him you want

00:41:11.240 sometimes

00:41:11.680 sometimes

00:41:12.380 and the same like

00:41:14.360 you know

00:41:15.120 I just need to be like

00:41:16.820 told

00:41:17.300 you need to tell me

00:41:18.360 it's my dad

00:41:18.680 at the minute

00:41:19.120 it becomes a bit blurry

00:41:20.600 sometimes but

00:41:21.260 I wouldn't change it

00:41:22.800 I've said for the longest time

00:41:24.200 like if my dad

00:41:25.040 say I came out

00:41:25.860 of this podcast now

00:41:26.620 my dad called me

00:41:27.520 and said you know what Tom

00:41:28.200 I think you should retire

00:41:29.840 I would be like, yeah, absolutely.

00:41:31.360 No way.

00:41:31.840 Yeah.

00:41:32.060 He has that kind of influence on you?

00:41:33.900 He does.

00:41:34.360 I mean, yeah, I think that's like our thing.

00:41:37.480 He's mine.

00:41:37.820 Like if my dad wasn't here, I wouldn't do it.

00:41:39.740 That's like our thing.

00:41:40.680 Or you guys just see so aligned.

00:41:43.340 Yeah, we're just pretty aligned.

00:41:44.320 We're just pretty aligned, I think.

00:41:45.520 That's so important to have somebody that sees things.

00:41:47.520 I wouldn't trust anybody else to like run my stuff like that.

00:41:50.620 No, no chance.

00:41:52.100 It's given Khabib a little bit.

00:41:54.260 I feel like he had a pretty similar relationship with his dad.

00:41:56.800 and when his dad passed

00:41:58.360 I think what he did

00:41:59.280 one more fight

00:42:00.940 then he called it

00:42:01.640 or I think I have that time

00:42:02.920 I think that's right

00:42:03.600 yeah yeah

00:42:04.040 I think that's correct

00:42:04.720 that's not super common

00:42:06.980 in MMA

00:42:08.600 no it's quite rare

00:42:09.420 it is quite rare

00:42:10.120 but like I say

00:42:10.980 my dad's been

00:42:11.540 I don't think people realize

00:42:13.580 how much

00:42:14.100 how many training sessions

00:42:15.480 you need

00:42:15.980 to become

00:42:16.940 like one of the most

00:42:18.540 elite athletes in the world

00:42:19.900 in any sport

00:42:20.520 you need to dedicate

00:42:21.900 your whole life

00:42:22.420 and

00:42:22.560 my dad's been at literally

00:42:25.180 95% of the training sessions 0.91

00:42:27.660 Damn

00:42:27.980 Since I was 8 years old 1.00

00:42:29.500 Damn

00:42:29.700 So that's 0.99

00:42:30.620 That's a lot 0.97

00:42:31.940 Damn 0.82

00:42:32.840 That's a lot 0.99

00:42:33.420 So he was all in on you

00:42:35.360 Yeah he's all in on it

00:42:36.160 Do you have any siblings?

00:42:37.020 I've got a brother yeah

00:42:37.740 And does he fight?

00:42:39.200 He doesn't but he does

00:42:40.080 He does coach a little bit

00:42:41.180 Like he does

00:42:41.800 I think to be

00:42:42.440 To be

00:42:42.960 A professional cage fighter

00:42:45.160 You have to be like all in

00:42:47.340 And if you're not all in

00:42:48.800 You're gonna get beat up

00:42:50.380 In front of loads of people

00:42:51.300 That's just the way it goes

00:42:52.500 And I think he is

00:42:54.040 One of the smart people

00:42:54.880 who realizes I'm not all in,

00:42:56.400 so I'm not even going to do it.

00:42:57.500 And I think that's fair enough

00:42:58.620 because a lot of people like,

00:42:59.680 they've got one foot in, one foot out,

00:43:00.880 and I don't think that ends well for anybody.

00:43:03.060 And he could see the dedication that I was putting him

00:43:05.180 and he realized that that's not for him.

00:43:07.800 So-

00:43:08.180 Is he older or younger?

00:43:08.840 He's younger.

00:43:10.180 Okay.

00:43:10.680 So did you beat him up as a kid?

00:43:13.260 Not really.

00:43:13.920 I mean, we're siblings, so, you know.

00:43:15.340 You got into it sometimes.

00:43:16.240 Yeah, we've got into it at times, yeah,

00:43:17.400 but nothing major.

00:43:18.480 Did you fight outside of, like, martial arts as a kid?

00:43:25.020 Did you get in Manchester-style hooligan street fights

00:43:28.540 where somebody might potentially get shanked?

00:43:32.560 Well, yeah, yeah.

00:43:34.160 Did anyone get shanked?

00:43:36.120 Well, have I seen anybody?

00:43:37.100 Yeah, I have seen somebody who was stabbed, yeah.

00:43:38.640 God dang it.

00:43:39.140 Yeah, unfortunately.

00:43:40.260 I mean, I shouldn't be laughing.

00:43:41.180 It's not really funny.

00:43:41.700 No, no, it's not funny.

00:43:42.740 Sorry.

00:43:43.360 Yeah, I've seen that.

00:43:44.160 I've seen that. 0.99

00:43:45.100 Damn it, unfortunately. 0.99

00:43:46.340 What's your record in the streets? 1.00

00:43:47.720 a losing

00:43:48.460 oh yeah

00:43:49.520 actually

00:43:50.480 I mean it's such a different

00:43:52.040 it's such a different ball game

00:43:53.120 I've not had a street fight

00:43:54.180 for a long time

00:43:54.800 and I want to try

00:43:55.380 and keep it that way

00:43:56.000 what was the

00:43:56.520 what was the last

00:43:57.480 what happened

00:43:58.100 so I used to work

00:43:58.720 as a doorman

00:44:00.660 and as a bouncer

00:44:02.120 as a bouncer

00:44:02.900 and so all

00:44:05.100 all the jobs

00:44:05.720 that I've ever had

00:44:06.340 were basically

00:44:07.140 just to fund

00:44:07.940 my training

00:44:08.600 you know what I mean

00:44:09.520 because MMA 0.98

00:44:10.000 doesn't pay shit 0.82

00:44:11.080 especially outside the UFC

00:44:12.320 like now I'm doing alright

00:44:13.580 but

00:44:13.840 I am like I say

00:44:15.180 one of the best in the world

00:44:15.980 but

00:44:16.220 before

00:44:17.400 especially pre-UFC, terrible.

00:44:20.860 So all my jobs were like to fund me being in the UFC,

00:44:24.860 doing MMA full-time.

00:44:27.180 And I used to work like on the doors at the weekend,

00:44:29.680 like on a club.

00:44:31.540 And I mean, people get drunk, people take drugs,

00:44:35.300 and people fight.

00:44:36.200 That's the way it goes.

00:44:37.940 Especially Manchester's pretty rough.

00:44:42.100 It can be, yeah, for sure.

00:44:43.420 Like anywhere, good parts and bad parts,

00:44:45.720 good people and bad people.

00:44:46.580 What parts are good exactly?

00:44:49.340 What of Manchester?

00:44:49.980 Are we positive?

00:44:52.840 Are you saying you've never been to a good part?

00:44:54.220 I went to a park that was nice

00:44:56.540 No if you go outside the city

00:44:59.380 It's pretty nice

00:44:59.980 Bro as soon as you said that he started

00:45:01.620 Gripping that pillow so hard

00:45:04.100 He probably has so much Manchester pride

00:45:08.360 Bro like

00:45:08.940 I like Manchester a lot, good city 0.97

00:45:11.240 Damn I just never heard anyone say that

00:45:13.600 What does a busy month look like for you? 0.98

00:45:16.580 just training yeah training kids three three kids they're getting older three boys they're

00:45:23.400 getting older now so how old uh they're not that old eight five and five i got twins are you roughing

00:45:28.440 them up i'm roughing they're roughing each other up no they're roughing each other up i don't need

00:45:32.480 to do much roughing up yeah they're roughing each other up so i got that and then uh you know i got

00:45:37.340 the media stuff going youtube channel social media as well as training yeah you're traveling a little

00:45:41.860 bit it's just yeah it's going it's going but I take my um I actually take my rest and my mental

00:45:48.020 health pretty serious like I don't like to like my cup has to be nearly full for me for me to be

00:45:54.720 performing in the gym like if I'm burning the candle at both ends my performances go to shit 0.89

00:45:58.640 so I'm very conscious of that so if I ain't sleeping in the day if I ain't getting a sauna 0.87

00:46:03.460 if I ain't you know seeing the physiotherapist twice a week if I'm not having that time on my

00:46:08.580 own the output's not there in the gym so that's very important to me as well you seem he seems

00:46:13.940 dialed you're locked in i'm dialed in i ask because like you see more and more fighters

00:46:21.520 nowadays willing to be vulnerable about their struggles yeah volk paddy um a lot of those guys

00:46:29.520 and it it seems like you take the approach of caring so much for your body that it seems like

00:46:37.020 your mind kind of follows is that an accurate assessment i think that's pretty accurate yeah

00:46:41.020 and i think that it's difficult because when you start getting big in mma and when i say big i mean

00:46:45.780 popular and winning titles and stuff like that other opportunities do come of course lucrative

00:46:51.520 ones where you can make money become more popular and do all this stuff now for me that's good but

00:46:56.140 also i'm trying to be the freaking best ever so that comes first before anything so i'm making

00:47:02.180 sure i'm doing that stuff and ticking those boxes because ultimately like we talked about at the

00:47:06.300 beginning of the podcast you want to be popular you want people to care about you want people to

00:47:09.520 tune in for your fights that's that's important but what's more important than that to me is 0.95

00:47:13.580 winning and that ain't gonna happen if you're spending too much time on the other shit so 0.83

00:47:17.740 i am like in the gym religiously recovering religiously making my diets on point making 0.93

00:47:23.340 sure my diet's on point everything i'm doing i'm doing everything that i can to be the best version 0.96

00:47:27.640 that i possibly can and i won't i won't miss it he's he's fucking dialed in brother i won't miss 0.90

00:47:33.820 it are you do you do you have bad days i would assume all the time all the time is any of it uh 0.97

00:47:41.240 mental or is it or is there is there all there is there always something that you could track

00:47:45.980 it back to like very very very palpable and physical that you could track it back to

00:47:50.280 i mean as a man and i'm not saying all men are like this but i know i i'm definitely a suppressor

00:47:56.320 of emotions so i'm trying to deal with that more i'm trying to like confront my emotions more

00:48:00.560 and try and deal with it now rather than six months later i'm doing it right now yeah

00:48:05.240 compartmentalizing doing great i texted him today you look fantastic you look great i appreciate

00:48:09.660 you're crushing it thank you no but i'm trying i'm trying to do that better do you know what

00:48:13.760 i mean deal with it now rather than exploding squashing it down six months later it's going

00:48:18.780 to catch up with me and i don't want in a bad way yeah i don't want that i don't want it so

00:48:22.140 interesting man this conversation like never would have taken place 10 years ago i feel like

00:48:26.500 yeah i think so like the mental health conversation especially for fighters fighters because you feel

00:48:30.940 like you know if you're a fighter you're like you got to be a tough guy yeah can't talk about

00:48:34.860 your emotion bury it turn it off i mean that happens all the time i mean that's part of being

00:48:39.040 a man i think but especially like fighters because we're supposed to be all alpha male like i will

00:48:43.320 openly speak about how scared i am when i fight and there is as far as i'm aware there might be

00:48:48.820 others i'm sure there are others actually but there's me and gsp who spoke about it a lot tyson

00:48:54.040 does it as well

00:48:54.740 yeah

00:48:55.660 but there's so many

00:48:57.320 like UFC fighters

00:48:58.420 who are like 0.95

00:48:59.100 I ain't fucking scared 0.98

00:49:00.060 I'll fight anybody 0.97

00:49:01.120 and I'll definitely

00:49:02.340 fight anybody as well

00:49:03.200 but it's still scary

00:49:04.620 like

00:49:05.200 and I'm open with it

00:49:06.400 and I feel like

00:49:07.300 when you are open

00:49:08.100 with that

00:49:08.560 and you embrace it

00:49:10.260 like it gives you

00:49:11.160 a whole super power

00:49:12.040 in itself

00:49:12.540 you're like

00:49:13.260 you own it 1.00

00:49:13.840 I'm fucking scared 0.95

00:49:14.420 but I'm gonna do it anyway 0.97

00:49:15.280 like I'm gonna look across

00:49:16.600 whether it's Jon Jones

00:49:17.600 or somebody else

00:49:18.120 I'm gonna look him in the eye

00:49:19.000 and I'm gonna be like 0.98

00:49:19.600 I'm fucking scared 0.96

00:49:20.780 but I'm coming for you 0.97

00:49:21.520 and I wanna

00:49:22.300 as we said before

00:49:23.500 i want to separate you from your consciousness that's what i'm looking to do i try not everybody

00:49:27.300 out but i'm scared of every single person but that fear makes me super sharp doesn't that make

00:49:31.700 you don't you think that makes you more of a man if you think about it like say you have somebody

00:49:35.720 that doesn't feel fear or or like the case that we're talking about with me doesn't have these

00:49:40.300 demons and shows up when you show up or i show the fuck up on days when we are scared to or feels 0.94

00:49:46.620 shitty about it like doesn't that make you fucking even more of a warrior yeah well i think so i 0.98

00:49:51.000 think so and that's i learned a lot of this stuff from uh gsp now i know gsp personally now but um 0.97

00:49:57.680 a lot of it i just learned from like watching podcasts and watching his stuff because he's

00:50:01.420 so open and he's like like say 10 years before me maybe even more yeah and that guy's going out

00:50:06.540 there fighting like guys like nick diaz yeah give him the finger and doing all kinds pissing 1.00

00:50:11.460 him off constantly and he's like yeah i'm scared but i'm gonna go over there and kick your ass 0.98

00:50:14.900 anyway and i love i absolutely love that like up front and honest with your emotions honest with 0.99

00:50:19.520 yourself facing yourself and overcoming it anyway i absolutely love that i certainly feel like it

00:50:24.600 gives you a a freedom in in in like that authenticity to yourself it does for me sort of

00:50:31.040 sort of i've had i've had a good experiences sometimes just like surrendering to life and

00:50:35.940 just being like you know this is it this is i'll just be and it's really interesting because i

00:50:42.980 i wonder ultimately if every fighter was being 100 truthful with themselves

00:50:47.840 what version of locking in for a fight is more effective whether it's like trying to pretend

00:50:57.400 you're supremely confident and you're superman walking into that ring and having no fear and

00:51:03.620 thinking you're the best in the world and then proving it or being that animal that's kind of

00:51:08.620 been backed in a corner and you are operating out of fear because like there's definitely a part of

00:51:12.740 you that knows you're really good and you're capable of i think it's got to be a healthy

00:51:17.960 balance it's difficult with uh with fighting especially because it's so subjective like

00:51:22.620 everybody's different every single person steps in there for a different reason and wants a

00:51:27.200 different thing out of it but i know for me personally having that honesty with myself

00:51:31.460 because i used to i say it all the time i used to have two fights like i used to be fighting my

00:51:35.220 opponent but mainly i was like fighting myself i was like i'm not scared and like trying to push

00:51:39.700 it out you're trying to block it and like it's never going to happen it's for me personally

00:51:44.640 maybe it's different for other guys but for me personally i was like i ain't going to get rid

00:51:48.680 of this so i've got to use it to to help me win and once i figure that out that's when the

00:51:53.300 trajectory has been like steep sick that's just that's just a rule of mental health and internal

00:51:59.100 dialogue in general anytime you try to fight thoughts yeah hard make them stop make them stop

00:52:04.560 make them stop you're gonna lose you're never gonna win that battle it is it is a it isn't

00:52:09.000 always an ongoing effort to coexist with those thoughts and learn how to utilize them yeah you

00:52:12.860 know because there's no somebody asked me one time they're like i had this long talk about like what

00:52:18.400 are thoughts and even that in itself was such an interesting conversation like what are they

00:52:22.600 like like what would your answer to that be

00:52:24.920 it's such a hard i don't know it's like synapses firing so what they said to me was

00:52:31.680 the the best way to look at your thoughts especially if you're someone that kind of

00:52:36.780 has trouble with them sometimes, like I am,

00:52:39.220 is like clouds.

00:52:40.660 You see a cloud, sometimes you'll think

00:52:41.960 it's a pretty cool cloud, but it's passing by.

00:52:44.020 It's just going, you know what I'm saying?

00:52:45.520 And then there's another cloud.

00:52:47.200 And so like, you kinda have to figure out

00:52:49.620 like what things you wanna hold on to

00:52:51.120 and what things you wanna just like pass by.

00:52:52.360 Yeah, yeah, interesting.

00:52:53.700 Do you ever like give yourself the perspective

00:52:57.700 or think about how you're like a modern day gladiator

00:53:01.580 and like you see the Roman Colosseum

00:53:03.440 And you know that men, and maybe women, but probably not.

00:53:07.660 I think it was men.

00:53:08.140 Probably just men.

00:53:08.880 Yeah.

00:53:09.300 At the time, you used to like fight for their lives, right?

00:53:12.240 And there's all these people watching them and cheering on this like primal human brutality.

00:53:17.400 Yeah.

00:53:17.960 Do you feel like that is in you?

00:53:21.100 And do you feel like if you were alive in another era, you would have been like a gladiator,

00:53:25.080 like a warrior fighting for your life?

00:53:26.660 I think it's in all of us as men.

00:53:30.440 I don't know.

00:53:31.380 I think it is.

00:53:32.080 Some real... 1.00

00:53:33.440 Pussies out there. 1.00

00:53:34.080 Yeah, I know what you mean. 1.00

00:53:36.360 They're all on Twitter, bro.

00:53:37.660 I didn't want to say anything about Mike, but you know.

00:53:40.680 No, he can scrap.

00:53:41.700 No, I know.

00:53:42.220 I know.

00:53:42.500 I'm joking.

00:53:42.980 I'm joking.

00:53:43.740 I'm fighting for my life, man.

00:53:45.120 No, but I don't know.

00:53:47.520 I don't know.

00:53:48.040 I think it's a bit dramatic when you start thinking like that.

00:53:50.320 Really?

00:53:51.200 Maybe.

00:53:51.760 I try not to think like that.

00:53:53.080 I try and think of it just like a sport.

00:53:55.340 That's the way that I operate best.

00:53:57.180 The way that I operate best, me personally, and again, it's all subjective, is when I'm

00:54:00.560 enjoying myself.

00:54:01.740 We hear that so much.

00:54:03.060 try and enjoy myself if i'm thinking about life or death stuff i'm probably going to freeze up in

00:54:09.620 there so i don't want to do that i'm like trying to you're you're you're you're like you definitely

00:54:14.320 we've spoken to a lot of really high level people and high level athletes and you're you're definitely

00:54:19.760 talking like oh my god thank you i'm dialed in i'm absolutely dialed in and i'm also aware something

00:54:25.660 else is that like i'm gonna be 32 soon like next month that's not old by any stretch but um i'm

00:54:32.280 aware that i'm closer to the end than the beginning so like i'm going all the end of your career yeah

00:54:37.220 you're not alive i hope not you never know you never know but i hope not yeah but i want to be

00:54:42.940 like i want to be like all in do you know what i mean so if it doesn't work for whatever reason

00:54:48.160 and i think it's going to work obviously but at least i can look back and be like you tried your

00:54:52.360 best and that's that's all that anybody can ever ask is that you tried your best and that i was

00:54:56.560 both feet in i did everything right from nutrition to the mental side of thing to training twice a

00:55:02.040 to the routine to the sleep to the physiotherapy to everything i want to take every single box so

00:55:07.060 that in five years or ten years i can look back and go look you tried your best and that's all i

00:55:11.840 can do how debilitating is it when you do give it this 110 effort that you're describing and

00:55:19.040 someone god puts a stick in your spokes and you fly over the front of the handlebars and face

00:55:25.200 plant on the ground whether it's an injury or like i don't get dropped in practice whatever

00:55:29.660 your version of it is yes i mean it's not it's not great but that's part of the sport unfortunately

00:55:34.220 like that's what we signed up for and you i think that i can never speak for other fighters because

00:55:40.080 i only know how my own mind works but like there's two of us in there we're literally now we're

00:55:47.260 talking with my career we're at the top of the mountain like there's not many of us there only

00:55:53.100 one of us is going to make it there's two of us so it's essentially a 50 50 who's going to win and

00:55:58.640 i think as confident as i am and i honestly believe that i'm the best heavyweight walking

00:56:03.180 around on planet earth right now i seriously believe it but that still means that i can lose

00:56:08.320 because it's mma and it's it's the most unpredictable sport in the most unpredictable

00:56:14.120 division in the world we're massive guys i'm 6'5 260 do you know what i mean like i'm a big guy

00:56:20.920 like if i hit anybody with the small gloves on clean or if anybody hits me we're probably going

00:56:25.860 to be unconscious and that's what we sign up for so you just got to kind of you just got to kind of

00:56:31.460 expect it as weird as it sounds like if i get knocked out as we just spoke about like i've

00:56:36.700 tried my best and that's all i can do but um do i think i'm the best heavyweight in the world

00:56:41.780 absolutely but does that mean i can lose absolutely that said you mentioned it the best heavyweight

00:56:49.240 mma fighter in the world i think by default that also makes you the baddest man on the planet

00:56:56.360 does that ever cross your mind i don't know what does that mean though define that it means that

00:57:00.980 if you were toe-to-toe with any other man in the world you could kill them and you would win i

00:57:09.340 don't know i don't know who who what who we've had this discussion on the show multiple times 0.97

00:57:14.500 before um like who what what do they call him sas what's the what's like like an army guy yeah

00:57:21.860 that's what that's my that's always been my curious me and him have always seen differently

00:57:25.180 on it because at the end of the day what he would win yeah no no but no but hold on hold on let's

00:57:31.660 let's just go through this really quick he's trained to maim and hurt these people are trained

00:57:36.160 to kill simply simply no no but no but you're no no no i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not saying he

00:57:41.240 wouldn't get it done what i'm saying is there's different training tactics like they're looking

00:57:46.640 for points to end your life they want to either separate brainstem they want to yeah but to render

00:57:52.420 you lifeless i do completely agree but i do have a counter argument if i may yes sir okay so who am

00:57:58.960 i i can't stop you there's nothing i can do to stop you so and i mean i'm not trying to like

00:58:06.420 dick measure here at all yep but like we are trained to to hurt each other that that's part 0.96

00:58:14.720 of the sport like you say they are trained to kill they are trained to poke eyes knee in the groin

00:58:19.800 headbutt do do all the stuff that we can't do by rules but when the rules are taken away 0.99

00:58:26.200 who's to say that we can't headbutt them and poke them in the eye and knee them in the balls and do 0.64

00:58:31.100 all the other stuff like i would i would like to think at least that mma fighters if we're talking 0.97

00:58:39.160 no weapons you could get any mma fighter and put him against a sas special whatever and they had

00:58:46.340 no weapons i'm pretty sure that nine times out of ten the mma guy will come out on top probably

00:58:51.040 probably to think so i don't know if that's true probably we saw a version of this where uh strickland

00:58:58.800 invited a navy seal to come spar with him granted oh yeah that's different different battleground

00:59:03.880 per se like when you're out fighting for your life on on an actual battlefield and there's like 0.99

00:59:08.780 lead flying across the air in the air different story but you know bro strickland beat the fuck 0.97

00:59:13.820 out of this navy like beat the living shit out of him and um i don't know i i think like just to 0.96

00:59:19.700 kind of circle back because you are so grounded but like does it ever cross your mind like no it 0.58

00:59:27.280 it doesn't no no no you never just want to find a navy seal and no no no that's not what i'm

00:59:32.540 asking i'm just like for me again a fan of the sport someone who understands the sport

00:59:36.980 any any time like whoever is the ufc heavyweight champion of the world in my opinion is the baddest

00:59:44.240 man on the planet which is a pretty cool thing to say oh wait what i don't know like like you

00:59:50.440 could you could best any other male on the plane i don't like there's quite a lot of people in this

00:59:55.980 room now i don't walk in the room and do like a an eye test of being like right i can take all of

01:00:01.600 you my mind just doesn't work that way my mind just doesn't work that way it just doesn't it's

01:00:06.760 so funny i know a lot of like army like military guys who do think like that yeah it's like small

01:00:12.040 dick energy yeah i hear you i hear you but also tell me like you don't need to because it's like

01:00:16.900 a given i don't think like neil would be our probably our best no 100 but that's but that's

01:00:23.160 also assuming but that's also assuming that the that i guess in your mind in your perception

01:00:28.600 that the baddest man on the planet is a measuring contest of the most capable hand-to-hand specialist

01:00:35.220 on the planet i agree you know what i'm saying and so yeah that's what i'm saying so and so like

01:00:39.140 who's to say that somebody else wouldn't say the the best sniper on the planet that has you know

01:00:45.920 47 confirmed kills in horrifying conditions under extreme duress no sleep is the is not the baddest

01:00:55.220 man on the planet you know what i'm saying like i guess i guess that's it depends on the test as

01:01:01.060 well you can't like have a fish climb a tree and expect it to do well yeah it's a straight that's

01:01:05.900 why that's why i said like define baddest man because if there's weapons involved i ain't got

01:01:10.900 no chance yeah you know what i mean i got no chance i don't know what i'm doing so you don't 0.84

01:01:14.440 think that it's Masvidal or Diaz though as the BMF of course probably not man right now damn

01:01:21.040 shout out Jorge if you're watching this we miss you I guess times have changed a little bit

01:01:29.140 so uh do you like cheeseburgers yeah who doesn't well you got a cheeseburger yeah yeah I do like

01:01:38.260 him yeah why have you got one yeah we're at Wembley this weekend oh really yeah at Box Park

01:01:42.820 He's got a sick burger.

01:01:43.720 Yeah, really.

01:01:44.420 One of those Smash, but yeah, they're the best.

01:01:46.900 I like them.

01:01:47.360 It's amazing.

01:01:47.920 You watching your diet?

01:01:48.740 Could you eat one of his Smash burgers?

01:01:50.140 I could do, yeah.

01:01:51.300 I try and be as dialed in as possible with the diet,

01:01:53.900 but if we're talking a weekend, yeah, I could.

01:01:55.740 Is there any chance that you go to the Sidemen charity match?

01:01:58.540 No, but Charlie, my guy, who I'm with, is going.

01:02:02.280 It would be great YouTube content.

01:02:04.080 Just throw it out there.

01:02:04.920 No, I know.

01:02:05.220 I've got some stuff on this weekend, though.

01:02:06.740 I can't be there, unfortunately.

01:02:07.860 What?

01:02:08.200 Is it training stuff?

01:02:09.680 Yeah, it's training stuff.

01:02:10.580 I've got some personal stuff on as well,

01:02:11.920 but you know

01:02:12.820 I know

01:02:14.160 I've met JJ before as well

01:02:15.480 KSI

01:02:15.880 so I know that he's into the stuff

01:02:17.120 and

01:02:17.340 what'd you think of him

01:02:18.160 I liked him

01:02:18.800 yeah yeah he's cool 1.00

01:02:19.380 Fat Neek 0.54

01:02:19.920 what

01:02:21.120 is that like a 0.97

01:02:22.280 Fat Neek 0.78

01:02:23.540 Fat Neek 0.80

01:02:24.500 is that like a

01:02:25.100 what's that

01:02:25.360 they call them on his reddit

01:02:26.820 what does that mean

01:02:28.040 I don't know

01:02:28.320 I don't really know what it means

01:02:29.240 you don't even know what it means

01:02:30.040 it's what they call them

01:02:30.880 it's generational

01:02:32.440 is that like

01:02:33.500 is that like 1.00

01:02:34.040 call them a Fat Neek 0.94

01:02:34.960 is that like your 1.00

01:02:35.660 crap 1.00

01:02:35.880 your crap 1.00

01:02:36.480 crap 1.00

01:02:36.800 crap 1.00

01:02:36.860 crap 1.00

01:02:37.040 crap 1.00

01:02:37.380 yeah I guess I don't really 0.99

01:02:40.800 is that a racist

01:02:41.460 yeah that's what i was gonna say sorry that's what i was going with

01:02:44.920 oh okay that's all right well you just saved logan paul's career thank you for that thank

01:02:52.920 you bro hell yeah um do you have any questions i would you like to could you critique the show

01:03:01.220 maybe or something i'd like to i mean i've seen i've only i'll be honest i've only seen one

01:03:04.840 episode and it was with uh i've seen clips don't get me wrong i've seen mike tyson clips i've seen

01:03:09.260 masvidal clips yeah i've seen the mushrooms thing i've seen you asking about um no no no you asked

01:03:16.400 about uh tommy fury and molly that was amazing because i know tommy as well yeah that was amazing

01:03:22.440 that was funny as hell i've seen the harland episode is the one that watched all the way 0.99

01:03:26.400 through great episode you bet you really do fuck with manchester i'm a city guy whoa yeah whoa sick 0.95

01:03:31.460 yeah dude is there a chance that we've met before years ago with tommy in a gym 0.99

01:03:36.560 where was the gym

01:03:38.840 no I don't think so

01:03:40.060 in Manchester

01:03:40.240 I don't think so

01:03:41.000 no

01:03:41.280 well you went there doing what

01:03:42.300 training boxing

01:03:43.720 you sparred with Tommy

01:03:44.960 no

01:03:45.740 at the time he was

01:03:47.520 he was just a kid

01:03:49.700 yeah

01:03:50.060 we were all just kids

01:03:51.420 but I thought maybe

01:03:52.540 you don't train

01:03:53.060 you train in Manchester right

01:03:54.100 yeah I train with Tommy a lot

01:03:55.240 I train with Tommy a lot

01:03:56.300 I used to train

01:03:56.840 I don't train with him anymore

01:03:57.820 but I used to

01:03:58.620 I have trained

01:03:59.320 I have trained with him in the past

01:04:00.880 you like Tommy a lot

01:04:02.120 I was in

01:04:02.800 Saudi Arabia

01:04:04.620 in Riyadh 0.99

01:04:05.800 recently and i was in a gym head down you know it's probably jet lagged as shit and it was like 0.97

01:04:10.580 you know four in the afternoon i and i saw like you know when you're in the gym working out and 0.86

01:04:14.260 you see two like burly dudes walk in and all of a sudden it's kind of like yo i'm on this machine

01:04:17.900 right now like it turns into that thing and so i was like pressing and i looked up and there's

01:04:22.640 tommy fury because tyson was fighting that weekend and you know obviously we have internal

01:04:28.480 jake's his brother yeah you know he's the only guy that's beaten jake is that accurate yeah right

01:04:34.500 so i didn't really know what to expect real nice guy super stand-up guy had a great conversation

01:04:39.560 with him he was extremely interested in ufos he wants the data he wants to know what's going on

01:04:45.220 with ufos tell him what you told me oh he believes that he has i hope this doesn't get me killed but

01:04:53.280 he believes that he has some evidence of of alien activity yes tell him what he showed you

01:04:58.100 he showed me a city the at 40 000 plus feet in the sky a moving city that he took that he took

01:05:06.760 personally how did he get out there he was in a plane i believe unless he found somewhere to

01:05:11.560 create a bicycle that sounds like a flat are you a flat earther uh we we have we are two of the

01:05:16.620 biggest uh actually flat earth uh deniers we're probably the most famous something we have a

01:05:23.060 movie about it yeah oh really we're the biggest threat to the flat earth theory ever on the

01:05:27.420 planet yeah if you ever get a chance and you want to ruin not only your night but your perception

01:05:32.660 of both of us as individuals look up listen we're on good terms at the minute i don't want to do

01:05:37.100 look up logan paul's flat earth documentary it is a it's a work of okay we made a satire we

01:05:42.580 influenced or we uh uh infiltrated infiltrated the flat earth community in a major way okay he

01:05:48.560 was up on stage there's a gathering of them really yeah i was like dude there's this many 0.99

01:05:52.320 fucking stupid people in one place i gotta be one of those people have got a lot of time on the 0.99

01:05:55.840 hands i believe i think i convinced uh them that my friend fell off the side of the flat earth his 1.00

01:06:00.640 name was p he had flat feet and couldn't keep balance yeah i'm not watching it i'm not watching

01:06:04.940 but while we're on this i do think it's important to give a psa to tommy fury because mike mike

01:06:12.000 told me he's like dude like tommy showed me this picture he took sorry tommy if it was supposed to 0.98

01:06:16.800 I don't give a fuck, Tommy. 0.99

01:06:18.660 You gotta show us. 1.00

01:06:20.400 Or him.

01:06:20.960 We wanna see, I wanna see it, bro.

01:06:22.660 Like, let's, we could put aside

01:06:24.000 whatever Fury Paul beef there is for a second.

01:06:26.460 I wanna see this city in the sky.

01:06:28.260 Because the way Mike's describing it is like,

01:06:30.900 insane, man.

01:06:31.860 So when someone has beef with your brother,

01:06:34.380 do you feel that as well?

01:06:35.440 Oh, no.

01:06:35.880 No, no, not, not, not every time.

01:06:40.180 It's, dude, I'll be honest with you,

01:06:41.580 it's kind of tricky.

01:06:42.520 And it's been a rift in our relationship.

01:06:44.700 Yeah.

01:06:45.480 Because...

01:06:46.800 we're brothers love them to death like literally would die for this kid

01:06:53.960 we also have our own like separate paths interests friendships whatever businesses like and and like

01:07:00.940 an example i love dana white in the ufc i always have since we were 10 you know a couple years ago 0.94

01:07:07.660 jake starts yeah burning burning that bridge and i'm like whoa whoa whoa shit like am i included 0.97

01:07:14.560 by default fuck do i have to like not like dana but that's like kind of going against like 0.99

01:07:17.860 what's important to me yeah yeah i have my whole career uh beef with ksi we settled it turns out 0.99

01:07:24.260 we like each other but am i supposed to like not like him just because my brother doesn't

01:07:28.720 and they've never really met either like i know they'd get along just like i would and so it's

01:07:32.860 like kind of yeah and it's not just in that direction either like he he signed with the

01:07:38.020 brand that won't be mentioned a couple brands i think that were competitive with your brand

01:07:42.940 we can do well whatever but post prime being created yeah and so the thing that it comes

01:07:48.600 down to is this is not like a normal like beef conversation if his brother had beef like real

01:07:54.380 like physical someone's trying to hurt me there's no question right but when you get into this weird 0.84

01:07:59.680 gray area where there's business involved content jake paul starting shit with people for content 0.90

01:08:04.440 logan paul starting shit with people for content you can't always just forego all those relationships 0.90

01:08:09.860 in the future is just to be on your brother's side to be on your quote-unquote brother's side 0.97

01:08:14.100 right and there are some people who agree with that take who are like yo that's your brother 1.00

01:08:18.480 abandon your billion dollar business and support your brother and i'm like idiotic 0.99

01:08:23.360 it's the dumbest thing it doesn't feel like true to me and i'm i don't know sometimes no you don't 0.99

01:08:27.420 have to explain that bro i'm this is your podcast tom and this was excellent this was excellent

01:08:31.860 actually it was awesome i want to say um dude i'm so impressed by you oh thank you not that

01:08:36.660 you need to be gassed up i i wasn't really sure what to expect you are you have way more depth

01:08:42.280 than i think oh thank you people would assume and i think you're gonna do what you say you're

01:08:47.340 gonna do thank you um man best of luck to you bro go become the ufc heavyweight champion of

01:08:53.400 the world thanks guys i appreciate it aspen all ladies and gentlemen we needed that good

01:08:58.660 kick off yeah yeah we did hit that subscribe button we'll see you next time peace hey what's

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