BONER PHONE CONFESSIONS | In the Litter Box w⧸ Jewels & Catturd – Ep. 1039 – 6⧸12⧸2026
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1 hour and 26 minutes
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Jules and Cat Turd are joined by Cynthia West to talk about her new book, the upcoming election, and much, much more. Betonline.ca is a new online gambling resource that allows users to make, and sell, tickets to live sporting events, events, and other forms of gambling.
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Today is Friday, June 12th, 2026, episode number 1039.
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Please remember to like, share, follow, and hit the notification button so you know when
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You are in the litter box with Jules and Cat Turd.
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We've got Cynthia West coming on the show today,
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and I know you all in chat probably have a ton of questions for her.
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This is like a day of reckoning because you knew Massey was bad news
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Yeah, I lost 10,000 followers going against him before anybody did
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Well, I'm just going to warn all of the mods who are so awesome on this show in advance.
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Most likely, we're going to get a ton of trolls today.
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Making, if you don't mind, making the viewer experience even better.
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That's right, because we're probably going to have it.
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Most of his people that were doing that were paid bots.
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Now that he lost his election, they're really not already any.
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i listened to the interview with laura loomer and i found her to be very honest up front i mean
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she really thought this whole thing through she knew exactly what she was getting into
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she even had to bow down from her own race for the school board because she knew like i mean they
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were doing all kinds of things you want to talk about trolls since we're on the subject i mean
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they were just harassing her on her pages and everything else and she just said you know what
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I'm going to let this one ride, see what happens.
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But, you know, I mean, you see what they do, right?
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I mean, the political power machine in Washington D. Sleazy is awful.
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And they've got the money and the means to do it.
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So the fact that she's this brave to come out, especially before an election,
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and go ahead and hammer it home, say, this is who you're electing.
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should you choose pretty brave of her see um jackie made that meme the fifth that was funny
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wasn't it that was a riot oh my gosh i have reposted it i can't play it because it's still
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the audio from him doing it and the little algies will get it but how i laughed i was so glad you
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sent that to me because in the afternoon i normally miss the really good stuff jackie
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nails it every single time I mean it's just so funny and then today the whole boner phone I mean
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she she had a whole collection of them and I'm gonna play one right now just to get everybody
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in the mood so to speak for our guest but here you are we're talking about the boner phone
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i can't help myself i'm sorry this is going to be fun elon came a trillionaire today and boy did
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that send the left into shambles oh i love it so now they're going to talk about how we need to
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all have equal pay right we should all be on the same plane right yeah so so he earned it man
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exactly so he creates he creates starlink he creates all this electric car technology
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all this rocket technology i mean and on and on he bought twitter and freed it up
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he does he makes he builds he employs what does the government do they're trillionaires they don't
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mind them being trillionaires with a 4.5 trillion dollar budget just in our country every year
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they don't mind stealing your tax dollars and the big government being trillionaires they just
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want an individual i mean and they create nothing all they do is take and steal your money to get
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their trillions he creates things it's amazing what he has actually done he has been so powerful
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with the his space his space frontier um he's a private company that does space stuff and he's
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better than any country in the world think about how you have to do that it's really something i
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am just so impressed with what he has been able to do and then when you think about all the wars
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that are going on he has provided people with the ability to communicate with starlink which is what
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i'm going to have and you have which is so exciting as a default in case something goes wrong
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and something always goes wrong so i mean this is just incredible what the things that he has done
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and so of course they use the opportunity and they're like oh no we need to bring him down we
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need to bring people like that down on our level they need to pay more whatever i think he's been
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more than generous if you start looking at what he has done he needs to pay and then they come
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out with he pays the same amount of taxes as a desk clerk really he paid 11 billion with a b
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last year that's 11 that's 1100 millions well and think about all the 1100 million sure and
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think about all the people he employs as well i mean it's just it's just they just can't stand
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they're so jealous of anybody successful because they're such losers they are exactly that they
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are just jealousy total jealousy he has it you're never going to get it you got that right
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a conservative look at him say well that's what i you know he did it i could do it right and then
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um it's not fair that he did it live he's not fair that he did he needs to give out all to us
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it's mine you inspired a bit like be successful like that not them they will
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they want everybody to be equally miserable right just like themselves oh i mean we've seen this
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it's the same old same old i mean gosh all of a sudden they want to take it from somebody they
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want to make it to where it's a bad thing that somebody has been successful i don't i don't we
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don't think that way because we're capitalists and because we like our freedoms but other people
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Remember, she released all that, that we were funding.
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We're using them as the 51st state over there doing all the things they can't do under the Constitution.
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Been dirty dealing with them guys for a long time.
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That's why they're giving them all the money to fight the war.
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she tulsi gabbard stands ready to pull back the curtain on a sprawling web of u.s funded biolabs
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more than 120 of them spread across 30 countries including ukraine hello we've seen this we've
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heard this story before right all tied to gain of function research that puts america of course at
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risk this is fauci who has since disappeared i haven't heard or seen anything from the man since
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I'm sure he's living his best life somewhere, but he knows that all of this is coming out, surely.
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But now, as one of her final acts, Tulsi Gabbard, as the director of national intelligence,
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is handing over the proof of how taxpayer money fueled these operations around the world.
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And they're over there mixing shit together.
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I mean, it's like the beginning of every horror movie.
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it's like the beginning of the walking dead every laugh this is how it goes right and then remember
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when she mentioned it before and she said they were doing it meant romney come out and called
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it said that she was treason oh wasn't that horrible of course his son was one of the ones
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with the sweetheart deals over there him and crackhead that's it too i mean that's just the
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whole group they're just really i cannot believe that they have been able to get away with any of
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this but here we are i mean ukraine and what was going on there the money laundering that we know
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went on then you've got the labs and these crazy experiments that were obviously going on as well
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what they did to the beagle puppies i mean which really just upset everybody to death
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uh let you know let you know exactly what you're dealing with so this is going to be
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one of her final steps before leaving the dni position and it's a goodie it's definitely a
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goodie we have so we have so many people up in there that just i don't know i mean the more we
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find out look at what we've been able to confirm just since president trump has been president
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do you think we're gonna do you think we're gonna have a peace deal
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sign this weekend they probably will then they'll break it and
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three two one the models man i gotta go i know well they're they're saying that they're probably
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five four i know you do you definitely do because it's true i mean it's only a matter of time before
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they break it but if he goes if he starts blasting again this time i think they're just
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gonna blast them into oblivion yeah well you know they've been warned how many times i mean they're
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acting like zelinski that little troll rat that continues to just go back and forth trying to get
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everybody to make an you know a peace deal and then he tries to get more money from you and then
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he's like oh no deals off the table we've seen him scurrying around a bit but president trump he
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announced a great settlement is what he said and that it was reached with iran to the end of the
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war to end the war finally and the deal could be signed as early as this weekend last month a
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framework work of 60 day ceasefire it was largely mou was not largely negotiated and the talks
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unfortunately were derailed by israel hezbollah fighting followed by u.s iran strikes
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you just can't trust those people you really cannot yeah and who are you who are you even
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talking to at this point yeah it's very true well one thing got me good on social media
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so many things i mean the massive fraud in home with the homeless in los angeles you know the
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Democrats are looking for anything now to change the subject, anything and everything.
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I'm telling you, they're going to bust some people out there for this fraud.
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I mean, official, this is after the massive fraud was found.
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The Los Angeles Democrats, the homeless agency defunded by President Trump's administration,
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You have got tens of millions in taxpayer funding that has been cut as a result.
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The only language they understand is money.
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So President Trump's administration, it has suspended the federal funding to Los Angeles
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This is the Homeless Service Authority, L-A-H-S-A, and it is a Democrat-run agency managing homelessness services across Los Angeles.
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They have also suspended, the suspension follows discovery of a massive fraud at the agency where tens of millions in taxpayer funding was cut.
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I'm glad I'm the one sitting here in Los Angeles paying for it.
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I don't care if they defund the whole place.
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I'm sick of my money going to these crooks and criminals.
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I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way.
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I don't see anybody financially survives in California.
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You can't be, I mean, you need to be a cat turd or an Elon Musk.
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I had to poke fun at you on that one because that was really cute,
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i mean this guy is like off the charts i mean it is funny because it's like wow because it
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drives them crazy there they're this i've never seen them get set off so bad since yesterday but
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man it it uh it really set them off i mean worse than i thought here i knew the first two out would
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I don't know, this should be the last trillionaire ever.
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There's no limit to how much the government money y'all haul in,
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but you want to limit how much a private citizen makes
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who actually produces something well and not only that gives back they don't steal they don't steal
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our money they're giving their money away they're they're trillionaires in the government every year
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and they don't produce anything and they don't create i mean he creates jobs they don't create
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a single job you say well look all them government jobs no our taxpayers pay them that's right
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And Fessler pays his, yeah, they don't create jobs.
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Well, and think about what they give back to the community.
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They are actually giving back in one way or another.
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I mean, wasn't it in the hurricane in Florida, also in California, after we had the fires?
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I want to make sure that you've got all the things that you need at your disposal so that you have some communication.
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You didn't see Karen Bass going out of her way or ramen or anybody else going out of their way to make sure that the city continued to run.
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I know so many things will make you really happy.
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It's like you go from really great news to like, wow, how did that even happen?
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So here we have Marco Rubio, who says that foreign leaders are they are going to attend
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President Trump's UFC Freedom 250 at the White House.
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And he jokes that it could trigger a diplomatic crisis.
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People are upset that we're going to be celebrating this UFC freedom event at the White House.
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Yeah, it's better than all the trans there with their boobs hanging out, their fake boobs.
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Oh, I think this is going to be so much fun.
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They try to take everything, anything he wants to do.
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And y'all are just, of course, stopping him because y'all don't have it in you to do it.
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Let him make the White House a million times better.
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I mean, you have to, if something's going to be around for 20 or 30 years, you got to update it.
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I mean, if they didn't update it, they'd be an outhouse there now still.
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I mean, you still want the shag carpets from the 70s.
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the orange and red shack definitely not i'm so glad i mean look at the fountains look at the
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area it's completely improved i mean the president trump is a builder he's got rid of the confetti
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he's cleaned it up he's getting rid of the crime yeah and all there and they're trying to stop him
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isn't that just bizarre it's tds is a real mental illness and i mean it's serious too
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well they're just sick that they're not the ones that did it president trump are making people get
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out and enjoy the parks and enjoy the fountains and enjoy Washington D sleaze, even though there's
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all kinds of sleazy things that go on over there. I mean, at least there's something beautiful to
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look at where friends and family can they can gather and they have a place to hang out in a
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beautiful location. What the Democrats what do they want? They want it to be awful. They want
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it to be gangs that are taking over these places just like I mean, go to one of our parks in LA.
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I mean, I look at Washington, D.C. now, and I'm envious by a lot because I'm like, okay, when is it our turn?
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Well, I'm just hoping with all of this exposure that maybe.
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Unless they stop cheating, never, because you're going to keep cheating.
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Something major has got to happen to the cheaters, man.
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Once they start doing that, once they start like, okay, I'm not going to cheat, man.
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Now they're saying, when you cheat, nothing's going to happen to you.
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I mean, there's so many people that are just okay with the fact that their voice and their vote doesn't matter.
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So they're just not going to even show up for it.
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And here we've got these Republicans up there, so-called, under Thune, who are not going
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to pass the most important bill of our lifetime, the Save America Act.
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I don't know how he could even show his face, knowing that 83% completely agree that our
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And now after the whole California incident, I know that number has gone up.
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because everybody watched, just like they did with Biden
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and they stole the presidency from President Trump
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because the world is watching all this stuff.
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i mean and they were that was a big one that was a big one to bring to the stock market
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definitely definitely well you're going to need a lot of energy to become a trillionaire and so
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massy nasty massy i'm so oh my god it's pouring all of a sudden oh yeah we were just talking
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about that that came out of nowhere man it's been not a cloud in the sky today goodness sakes
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well it's going to be raining on nasty's parade we know that for a fact we're going to have
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cynthia west on the show i know you all are very excited about this this is going to be such a good
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time i mean the thing is is that people need to know what happened in with her and it was really
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not a pretty thing I mean what this guy is really about we're going to find out about and I think
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it's about time I mean look at what he did with you you can tell everybody what he did with you
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yeah I'll just wait yeah I'll just wait till she's on yeah so she can hear it too hopefully
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she's listening because hello so we've got that out for her but yeah so we'll see her in just a
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few minutes but it has definitely been something crazy it's been a crazy time and it looks like
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i can't believe how crazy the left went about him making a trillionaire so yesterday he was worth
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998 billion right so that didn't bother them but when he made that last two percent they pretty
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much lost their minds it's okay the 998 billion but when he had trillion there that was the flame
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started coming out of the nostrils that's exactly right oh god it's ridiculous oh man they're just
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jealous they have always been jealous and guess what we have somebody that they're going to be
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jealous over miss cynthia west is here hey how is everybody today hey how are you oh i'm living
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the dream i'm running off about two hours sleep i spent some time do you know who francesca is
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the the woman who was dating james fishback oh uh which ones uh
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the one right before he got married the one that was uh oh yeah yeah yeah we we spent some time
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together it was very interesting oh it's good though oh so you guys there's another weirdo
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uh fishback yes yeah it's the same gripped right it's it's the same power grab
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oh my gosh well let's start at the very beginning just for those that have not heard your story so
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okay cynthia how you've said that congressman massey he first reached out to you after his
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wife passed in 2024 right so walk us through that i mean when did he slide into your dms or however
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he did it i mean what was your first impression of him did it feel genuine i mean it did yeah it did
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I mean, I think really the thing about it was that we were both coming from very unhealthy,
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So he had just lost his wife and he didn't want to be alone.
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You know, there's people who don't want to grieve, right?
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They would rather skip that process, but it's important.
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And for me, I was coming out of, you know, more than 20 year marriage.
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We were legally separated and I didn't want to be alone either.
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And so we kind of just, you know, and he found me on Twitter and kind of slid into my DMs.
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So he just DMed you on Twitter is the first time you meet me.
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And then how long was that after his wife died?
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What were you doing at the time? Were you involved in politics at the time? What was your job at the
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time? Well, actually, I was working as a substance abuse counselor at a methadone clinic, people with
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severe opioid addiction. But I was on X. There was a stock issue. I don't know if you've heard
00:31:30.340
about MMTLP. So I was doing advocacy in regards to market manipulation and naked shorting and
00:31:37.380
those sorts of things. And so, so I developed a little bit of a following. I only had about
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maybe 10,000 followers, but, um, but I had gone to DC. Um, I was, we've gotten my, my group of
00:31:50.340
people who were advocating, we gotten an open letter from 74 members of Congress, but they
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still weren't doing anything. So I was really disenfranchised with Congress. And at that point
00:31:59.560
in time, you know, I kind of bought into the rhetoric that he might be different. And, um,
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turns out we wasn't but but that's what kind of I was thinking and we didn't engage for help in
00:32:11.260
regards to that actually the first thing that I had um when we really started hitting it off was
00:32:18.320
I had made a response to some post about NATO or UN or something like that and then he just
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responded instead of publicly responding where I had made the comment on his comment he just
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went into my dms and he started liking all my posts too so I was like oh you know yes and
00:32:34.440
admirer yeah all of a sudden so when did y'all first like meet like have a date uh it was the
00:32:42.340
the labor day weekend he came down to florida where i live okay yeah well we've seen a couple
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of sides of massey it's very difficult to kind of pinpoint who he really is so so just i don't know
00:32:57.240
if you know my background with him but i was one of the first ones when he was at his most peak
00:33:02.100
popular when he was mr you know uh principles i was the first one on this show this was way over
00:33:09.380
a year ago saying that there's something about that dude that creeps me out i don't know what
00:33:14.820
it is i have a creep meter and it's never wrong i mean it's like you're probably right you're right
00:33:20.420
there's something about him that creeps me out and he just one day because i've you know i mean
00:33:26.440
i lost like 10 000 followers in two days when i first attacked him because nobody was attacking
00:33:30.460
him and then um but he then did a tweet and he said i just want to tell everybody that cat turd
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and this other guy they get paid to post about uh you know they're all paid by all these foreign
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agents i was just total lied about me you know what that's what that's what they do right
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i mean because they were saying that i was paid by israel and all these things yeah i'm still
00:33:56.140
waiting for my check is real and so the other guy you mentioned he'd actually proved that he did get
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160 000 from some political office but i've never taken any money by any well i mean i have sponsors
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you know like potty market stuff like that but i've never taken any money all they offered me
00:34:12.320
you wouldn't believe how much for any you know political ad any group organization candidate
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i don't even get paid by the trump administration i don't take that kind of money i think that lends
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credibility though I think that that's smart like me walking away from money I think lent me
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credibility in the situation that I was in and so y'all started a pretty hard and heavy romance
00:34:34.020
yeah yeah I mean it kicked off very quickly um he was coming I my situation with my custody was
00:34:43.720
week on week off and so I mean we were communicating all the time but um when he when he could he would
00:34:50.480
come down or i would go up to kentucky and then eventually it got to the point where i was spending
00:34:55.800
time in dc did he pay for this for you to come up there and stuff or did yeah when you travel well
00:35:02.820
your klm royal dutch airlines ticket takes you to more than just your destination it takes you to
00:35:08.960
winding streets spontaneous detours and the realization that neither of you is actually
00:35:14.820
good with directions recalculating route and when the final shortcut taken isn't exactly short
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welcome aboard our crew is here to give you a trip home that goes just as planned
00:35:27.420
klm royal dutch airlines when you travel travel well well that was nice did he like send plane
00:35:35.280
tickets or something or just drive um no i mean i flew it's actually very cost effective we have
00:36:12.160
oh so you were over by the shark attack yeah yeah yeah yeah that's scary stuff yeah no we're
00:36:20.460
neighbors then so yeah you know we have good beaches so I why travel somewhere else when
00:36:24.740
you're back yeah we're spoiled but um yeah no I mean so so he would come down here a lot and then
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I would go up to his place and then um you know in um over Thanksgiving we went to South Africa
00:36:37.360
so that was you know it was really eye-opening you can get really caught up in it the the lifestyle
00:36:43.140
I mean you want to talk about love bombing right getting um just really um experiences that I never
00:36:49.340
would have had and other than that I mean I'm I'm a social worker I'm a single mom and and he was
00:36:55.600
very charismatic I mean he's a politician that's what they do and um but but it quickly I mean it
00:37:03.060
was really i mean he's an engineer right and so it became very apparent that he was engineering me
00:37:08.440
to fit his life right to take the place of his wife who'd passed away which was very sad um yeah
00:37:14.080
you know we won't say anything but you know sadness about that yeah and and and you know
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what i think but but it's weird to me man for into and you know six to seven weeks to start
00:37:24.240
pursuing somebody this hard that you didn't even know oh i mean i wasn't the first yeah
00:37:29.300
yeah so i mean there's you know people before you
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yeah there was actually there's an account on x and uh she started she started going after me and
00:37:41.400
i was like wait wait i know who you are and um you know he really he had this opportunity too
00:37:47.000
he used to um refer to him as the casserole women who would show up in his dms right and so really
00:37:52.520
um i think that that's a common theme that you see whether it be in his political campaigning
00:37:58.240
or just in relationship right like taking advantage of the the grief and loss i'm not
00:38:04.820
saying that it wasn't actually there because he was experiencing grief and loss and i sat with
00:38:09.320
him through that but um you know we obviously know about the boner phone right his his district
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director got that for him i'm a shit poster on twitter the boner phones like my super bowl
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he had a fit over that i just i mean how can i not respond to that you know i'm a shit poster
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explain all that explain all that i mean but why would he this weird because if i was dating a girl
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i wouldn't be bragging about sleeping with other women it's weird it was weird but he would also
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do weird stuff like have ai generate pictures of him with other women um i think there's i mean
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and and and i've been analyzing this because you know my background's in mental health and
00:38:52.000
really processing what happened to like i'm in a much healthier place than i was because
00:38:56.840
it was really not healthy but um you know i think part of it may have to do with um he was a nerdy
00:39:03.820
kid you know and um and so he he seeks that notoriety that adoration and he's he's actually
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very fragile like most people who tend to lean towards narcissism and so lane he's full-blown
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narcissist i'm not diagnosing anyone you know there's a lot of members of congress though i
00:39:25.680
mean they seek power but yeah and so I think for him like wanting adoration from women was was a
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big thing and and his looks changed completely right I mean everything I mean just that was me
00:39:39.480
there you go no but did you start dressing him and stuff um suggesting I wanted to I was like
00:39:48.640
oh grow your scruff out a little bit I his new wife's the one that fixed the socks I couldn't
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get him to ditch the the the big white socks with the tennis shoes but but she got that but no I
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mean just he lost a lot of weight um he was running right it was very cathartic for him through you
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know the loss and everything to do that but um it's really it's actually kind of gross when you
00:40:10.360
look there was an article like Cincinnati Times or Cincinnati I can't remember um but it was in
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regards to his beard right and um so we were dating during this period of time we were dating from
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um you know end of august until my birthday really january 11th and um so over winter break
00:40:31.840
i tried to get him to grow a little bit over um another break but over winter break he for me he
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was growing out his scruff and um and then in this article you know this is after we broke up
00:40:44.280
and he starts talking about how he was so it was it was the winter break and he was home all alone
00:40:50.860
stricken with grief so much so that like he wasn't maintaining his hygiene at least oh my god
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and and that's and then the internet liked his beard and it's kind of like
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is it is it i've tried to tell everybody for years what a compulsive liar he is and nobody you know
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back then nobody believed it everybody believes it now yeah but you know i really truly i truly
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loved this man but it was i was not healthy enough to enter into a relationship just given
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what had come out of with with my marriage and everything and it really got to the point where
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it was like walking on eggshells to try and keep him happy I mean he really wanted someone who
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he told me that you know him and his wife never got in a disagreement or argument she basically
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just you know bent to everything that he ever wanted um which we know that that's not really
00:41:41.080
a healthy relationship but that was their dynamic and so so if I had an opinion about anything like
00:41:46.540
he would go to his district director and he'd be like well i talked to chris mccain and we both
00:41:51.340
agree though very intimate things the relationship was really i mean the district director is the
00:41:57.100
one who got him his boner phone he's the one who named his pine cone like that relationship just
00:42:03.060
was so crazy but but i mean god but why would he talk to his current girlfriend about a boner
00:42:11.840
funnel it's just strange to me man you know like probably to exert dominance like to let her know
00:42:21.720
that there are others out there to kind of you know not to make it to where she feels like she's
00:42:28.900
more you know that she should be worried or that she should do more for him because he could leave
00:42:34.200
at any moment it's that whole thing it's it's full-blown narcissist i mean you can see it a
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mile away it's manipulation it's the same thing that these type of guys try to do all the time
00:42:46.020
and it's just not even worth your time it's just you see it you feel it nailed it i know them i
00:42:51.960
know them all women go i mean it really it really was because he would talk about these boxes that
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he needed check oh god oh my god and and and and you know and then i was like oh i love you so much
00:43:08.760
and it was it was so bad and and that's really what ended up with me ending up going to dc
00:43:15.980
because he was like we either ratchet up or we ratchet off and he was gonna dump me unless i
00:43:20.600
quit my job and i i mean oh my god it was so much pressure from him um but i but and again
00:43:29.800
you've only known each other now two or three months right well that's when they that's when
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they started i mean this guy okay this is the same guy that said hey you know what i'm so worried
00:43:38.920
about all of these victims of the epstein files right and yet he's grooming her to make her
00:43:44.320
subservient to him i mean think about that that's what you're dealing with all right this is this
00:43:49.620
guy this is not his first rodeo it's very well planned he's done this with multiple women you
00:43:53.680
can tell just by what she's gone through. And anybody that runs into him after just that little
00:43:59.720
bit that I heard, beware, ladies. What about the Lauren Boebert thing? Did he say? Tell us about
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that. Well, and you know, I kind of like I felt bad about telling Laura Loomer about that. But I
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mean, really processing it, I think it really lends to what's happening in DC. And, you know,
00:44:22.640
they well that was happening in kentucky but you know they they got together pretty quickly after
00:44:28.680
his wife passed and um and so how do you know that though oh he was telling me about it like
00:44:36.820
he was he was bragging about it like you think he would lie about it or he's telling the truth
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oh no no he sent me i mean he would show me like their their old text messages and stuff too like
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that's why i put the thing up about the because she said that freak from florida and i was like
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that's right oh but i've never i've never seen him or her or any of them the whole time since
00:44:58.100
you've been out and we're on our loomer show i've never heard them deny anything no did you see her
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go off on fox i didn't see it no oh you should watch that she goes for on you if you no no the
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oh i did see that yes i did see that yeah it's like okay you might as well yeah i'm guilty
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consenting adults doing things that can she would have just been better off doing that
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um but she didn't and um and then she wants to go off on me and it's like okay all right lauren
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just own it so you go to dc and and he gets you a job right or did he get you a job he did so um
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i was i was terrified to leave my job um you know because i'm a single mom and like what if this
00:45:45.380
doesn't work and um he gave me and and oh let's backtrack and clear this up really quickly because
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when when I was talking about the bribery money um people were trying to say that it had to do with
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um during my divorce and everything um there were some issues with my ex and I had to get an
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injunction and um which is a restraining order and um they give you the emergency one and then
00:46:12.360
you have to go back to court and my lawyer my divorce attorney doesn't do injunctions his did
00:46:17.920
I tried to represent myself it didn't work out very well because I didn't know like how you're
00:46:22.540
supposed to present the evidence and and I ended up getting a no contact order from base and they
00:46:27.820
opened an emotional abuse case and all kinds of stuff so we just did it from the military side
00:46:32.080
instead of the civil side and so that was one of the things that Thomas was trying to use to say
00:46:37.100
that i had lied about that because it had gotten um thrown out even though he had called my ex's
00:46:44.220
commander and helped get the no contact order and i have the transcript of that but um they were
00:46:49.640
trying to say that the bribery money that he would give me later was money he was trying to give me
00:46:54.580
to get a lawyer for the injunction which is not the case because i don't give cash to somebody
00:47:00.260
here you need a lawyer's five thousand cash well that ain't how it works but but he's got his cow
00:47:05.860
money right so he gave me ten thousand dollars and he said this money is to um like basically
00:47:12.100
like an insurance so that if something happens at that time there was openings still in my job
00:47:17.720
um but um so that i could just come back and and then try and get rehired on just kind of like to
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to tide me over is what he was saying like i had no no reason to not take the job because he got
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me a job with if you look up victoria sparts you google sparts and staff abuse and it is it was
00:47:38.420
the most horrific work environment i have ever seen like you can't even imagine how bad it was
00:47:44.840
what was going on though specifically it was screaming and yelling and stuff like that i was
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screaming yelling she threw some furniture stuff at one of my co-workers crazy like hiring a foreign
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national to run what she wasn't supposed to hire they were supposed to just be a paid intern which
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means that they could do like copying and answering phones not taking computers home but she had them
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running her district office they were influencing U.S. policy they were taking in their computers
00:48:09.660
home like national security issues and then she was like she just you just have there's plenty
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articles all you have to do is google her but um so that's the office because she her staff
00:48:22.360
turnaround was so much like when I left I was number 86 in just over four years and so oh my
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god yeah it's bad well that's that's what she sounds like she sounds like the republican
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version of katie porter who was dumping potatoes on her husband's head i mean like you have them
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in all categories yes katie porter who who just tried to to run and was completely
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get out of my shot yeah get out of my shot yeah that one yeah i mean that kind of personality
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And when I broke up with him, I gave him his money back.
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And there were some things that happened that were violations of the Congressional Accountability
00:49:17.240
And so I qualified for House Legal Services, which would be that hush fund that that if you look at that bill to release the information about that, it was only for sexual harassment.
00:49:30.060
I was like, that's convenient because I knew that Thomas and Victoria wouldn't sign on to it if it was for all the Congressional Accountability Act violations.
00:49:38.760
I'm like, why wouldn't you want to know about all the money the taxpayers are having to pay out for indiscretions?
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but they were directly involved with that case that was going on but I called him before I
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started that for courtesy to say hey you know because I gave him his money back and um because
00:49:55.180
I wasn't a transaction but I kept when we broke up but I kept working for her because I was a
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single mom and I needed a job and my work wasn't hiring anymore my old job and so um so he told me
00:50:07.920
well that's why I gave you the ten thousand dollars so you could just walk away you're just
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one person you can't make a difference you need to just walk away i spent five thousand dollars of
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it i don't know what he spent it on he's like i had to use five thousand of it but i still have
00:50:21.260
five thousand dollars left if you just leave that alone if you just walk away you know just saying
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i'm one person that can't make a difference and i didn't take his money i mean he was trying to
00:50:30.640
bribe me to not go after someone who's violating the congressional accountability act and meanwhile
00:50:38.020
while, then you see him and he's like talking about transparency for victims. It's, it's like
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for the Epstein stuff. And then you can get into the, some of the, the, um, you know, I said
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emotional abuse, but it really has to do with his, his sexual nature and some of the things that he
00:50:54.960
did in regards to our relationship. And he, I'm, I'm grateful that the people in his district in
00:51:02.280
Kentucky saw it for what it was because there are people who will just exploit their position and
00:51:08.740
they fail to serve their constituents. And that's what he was doing. Definitely sounds like that.
00:51:14.700
I mean, the whole thing is really weird. Let me ask you about him because you've got like an image
00:51:20.140
of Thomas Massey. You have the public image and then you have the private behavior. I mean,
00:51:25.200
he has spent years building this image as like this quirky independent. I just want transparency,
00:51:30.560
right this is the one that he thought that everybody would respect and but from what you
00:51:35.900
saw behind closed doors I mean did the public persona did it match the private guy or was are
00:51:41.700
we looking at two completely different people you know it's almost like a Dr. Jekyll and Mr.
00:51:47.720
I figured yeah yeah and and he you know he'll talk about his medical margaritas because he gets
00:51:53.560
really angry and and so he'd be like I just need a margarita and and that was like every night
00:51:58.980
and he it was just walking on eggshells and and he would put his persona on for the public but it
00:52:07.940
really exhausted him to engage in public events and one of the disheartening things is he would
00:52:13.740
talk about these events that he would go to and he'd be like oh the binder people right and that
00:52:19.120
would be the people that would show up with binders that really it's constituents that have
00:52:24.280
information that they want to share with him because they need help and I took events to that
00:52:28.880
because i was a binder person right because i'm sitting here advocating for this mmtlp and and
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market transparency and corruption and all of that and and trying to get members of congress to
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actually do their jobs and he's just sitting there talking about oh these binder people
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and and um it really just gave me an insight of you know the other part too is they like they
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whine and dine themselves off of their campaign funds and they they very rarely work and they go
00:52:58.540
and they hang out at the Capitol Hill Club and schmooze with one another and all the things.
00:53:10.880
Yeah, I was going to say, you know, I was trying to tell people back then,
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he all of a sudden talks about the Epstein files as soon as Trump gets elected,
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but he only tweeted about it four times, three times in the last four years.
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It's all just to get Trump, you know, at some point he's just, it was just, you know,
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I've never been more happy seeing somebody lose their race.
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And I'm a political junkie for 30 years, a rush baby.
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When he got kicked out, I've never been so happy in my life.
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Yeah, those polls, I mean, things really flipped.
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Now, I'd rather you be like Elizabeth Warren and go out there.
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And I have more respect for her because she'll go out there,
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millionaires, trillionaires, whatever. You know what I mean? I mean, she is who she is,
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but pretend like you're on a soapbox. And literally, how many times has he said,
00:54:08.180
I, you know, my principles, I'm so principled. You don't have to tell people you're principled
00:54:12.860
every day. If you're principled, they know it already. Well, and too, like when you look at,
00:54:17.960
for instance, what happened with Trump, if you really start looking what happened,
00:54:24.360
because when we were dating I mean I I was like all about Trump right and um and and he actually
00:54:33.200
had a recording of Trump on his phone from when his wife passed away and and I was talking to
00:54:38.660
Thomas and I was like look if Trump doesn't get elected we're running into an iceberg and so he
00:54:45.000
came down and he I was flag waving for Trump and I've got pictures of him with um waving flags for
00:54:51.940
trump and and i really think that i was helpful in getting him to to um you know he nominated
00:54:57.740
trump i mean he gave him his endorsement sorry and um and i think you know that that he he may
00:55:06.040
have not i don't know but it was it was great because then i was like okay well maybe we can
00:55:10.640
get more of the libertarian vote over here for trump because we need it but um then what happens
00:55:16.160
is you've got um he's talking to trump personally on the phone about rfk jr and his appointment and
00:55:22.800
and and he really at that point in time he really wanted ag secretary and he got snubbed big time
00:55:31.260
you gotta remember this man has got a really big ego and and that's really when you see this feud
00:55:38.960
kick off and and then also too one of the things with the speaker because you know there was that
00:55:44.500
feud with the speaker it was trump speaker that he wanted and and um one of the feuds that started
00:55:50.420
before the vote for speaker um was um and you're dating him during this time right yeah i'm dating
00:55:59.500
him and i'm i'm seeing all this stuff and and um you know i just i was just so caught up and and
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it just it was so exhausting i you said you broke up with him i didn't realize that i thought he
00:56:13.200
broke up with you for some reason no I broke up with him what was the final straw um he is not
00:56:21.700
respectful in regards to things that I had iterated to him multiple times sexually that
00:56:28.240
I was not comfortable with and there was a lot of coercion and anger and um and I wasn't I wasn't
00:56:37.220
okay with but but the thing was i was so manipulated that i felt bad like i couldn't
00:56:43.680
perform for him and meet his needs it was so messed up um and i couldn't do it because i
00:56:50.620
eventually you know i get this job with victoria sparts and he's got me up to dc because i'm
00:56:56.040
supposed to satisfy all his needs and and be at his beck and call but i'm also working for the
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boss from hell and she expects you to be at her beck and call 24 7 you can't serve two masters
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and it and and it was it was so awful you were trapped you were trapped i mean think about it
00:57:16.000
i mean he gets you the job and so all right you go to dc you move there you're you know in his
00:57:23.020
complete environment that he controls i mean it's a perfect setup and so then all of a sudden you
00:57:29.080
get desperate, you get, you know, you're weak in this whole situation, and then it can manipulate
00:57:33.620
you further. It's horrible. I'm so glad you got out of that. I really am. Yeah. And it was one of
00:57:39.460
those things too. So I have so I have lupus, right? So I have an autoimmune disease. And I
00:57:43.700
look at what happened to Rhonda. And I'm not saying that this is what happened to her. But
00:57:48.200
my hair started falling out. I was sick. Like I get, I get UTIs with my lupus. I had a UTI. And
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he was like, did it matter? You were still had to perform for him and his needs and all the things.
00:58:00.000
And it was just racist. It was so bad. And honestly, I mean, I just feel like God rescued
00:58:08.960
me out of that. And it was, yeah, I'm, it really, my world was so broken. And, and mind you, like,
00:58:21.320
I thought I loved this man still even after breaking up with him I just I couldn't I couldn't
00:58:25.880
do it I was too exhausted and I and and I needed to provide for my kids and and then so I eventually
00:58:33.160
you know I I think I you know lost the man that I thought I loved and I'm all in this really like
00:58:39.420
I've been sexually exploited essentially is the word I would probably use and then I've lost my
00:58:46.140
job because I got the job from you know the boss from hell and I was working with ethics and doing
00:58:51.120
all these things which ethics is a joke I'll say that again and um and so and then I'm still like
00:58:57.820
have this toxic relationship with my ex and and life had just just caved in on me and um and and
00:59:07.120
that really goes back to what you were saying about like the the control and the power dynamic
00:59:11.960
like I was so vulnerable and you know you can just he he was unwilling to pivot from the fact
00:59:33.340
and you're not the first to have to go through it
00:59:36.280
and I'm sorry that you had to because it's awful.
00:59:46.080
okay, how in the world am I gonna get out of here,
00:59:49.800
so you decide you're going to end it you you are discharged from your your job with sparts which
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was probably heaven sent right i mean you were like okay there we're done here i can move back
01:00:02.300
home did you leave right away i mean how did you did you talk to massey about look things aren't
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going well here with sparts i'm having oh yeah yeah he knew he knew and he said he was like oh
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i thought if anybody could do it and change and fix her office it would be you because you're a
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social worker you work in mental health and I have texts from Sparks and she's like you're working
01:00:22.740
with two people with PTSD and I was like it's more like a cluster b personality issue but we're not
01:00:28.580
gonna go there oh my gosh well let me ask you I mean if you were to sit down with Thomas Massey
01:00:35.580
today like if you were to have a conversation with him like without cameras no politics no spin if it
01:00:41.640
was just you and he talking I mean what would you say to him I mean what is still bothering you
01:00:47.540
what's still on your chest that you would want him to hear um i would probably and i say this
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because i've been really processing this more now um when when i first came out with my story
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right i really wanted to focus on the iranian money i really wanted to focus on the bribery
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um people want the salacious and um when i came out you'll see i mean the defamation towards me
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and i walked away from sixty thousand dollars for my house legal settlement to do this i'm a single
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mom um but i also saw victoria win her primary and and i knew that people had a right to know
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what their elected officials, who they really were. And, um, and so I didn't want to talk about
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the, I mean, now at this point, he's already lost his primary and I've really been processing the
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sexual component of the things that happened to me. And, and it's really hard when you start
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trying to talk about the trauma that you experienced and have people, um, say that,
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you know, you're going to hell and you have no soul and you're lying and all these things.
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hey i've been there yeah yeah i know what it's like to be attacked and i mean i had somebody
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show up trying to assassinate me here yeah i mean you probably get swatted and stuff but i mean
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four times yeah i'm i'm running for school board and and i compromised that because i've got people
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who like drag up old stuff and try and say i'm just this evil person but but at the end of the
01:02:32.720
day, you know, I really gave me an opportunity to look at what happened to me because I got in such
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a dark space afterwards. And so I've been thinking about what happened to me and, and where, and how
01:02:46.340
I got there because it was really like boiling a frog. Right. And, and so I've been focusing more
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now about, um, the sexual component. And if I was to talk to him because he knows he asked me,
01:02:59.200
because we still talked for quite a while actually a little bit after we broke up and he's like it
01:03:05.080
was because of the stories right and because you know he he couldn't get off unless you were
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ejaculating him and telling him about him being with other women and it was women that were in
01:03:17.080
his everyday life and I was uncomfortable with that I didn't want that um particularly people
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that were like there was a young girl that I mean she was of age but I it just I I didn't feel like
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they could consent to that. It was my friend the last time. And so, and then when I broke up with
01:03:34.580
him, um, no, I, we, we were on our way to Kentucky and, and this is the one that really, like I've
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really been thinking about lately. You know, he was very violent towards me. I was, I was very
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intoxicated because we went and got alcohol and I'm like, no, I'm like full sending it. And, um,
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he, he, he was violent towards me and said he wanted to wreck me for any other man. And, and
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that meant harming me physically um with sexual you know acts and and I and I could look him in
01:04:05.880
the eye and I could talk to him about that like when I first came out I was like people were like
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she's lying I'm like I could sit down and have a conversation like I would look him in the eyes
01:04:15.560
and talk to him about that because it was wrong and and it broke me it broke me and I thought that
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it was my fault i remember when it was happening and i thought i deserved it and so and then this
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is the guy who's trying to seek justice for epstein victims like i would really look him in
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the eye in the face and i hope he watches this oh he will because he's sick oh he will he has
01:04:39.400
plenty of time on his hands now and he's all about himself so i guarantee he's probably listening
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right this minute especially with cat involved i mean there's oh i know because cat lives
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in his head like really really he hates you like a lot like a lot a lot get in line
01:04:56.360
get in line because i because i see through him right a lot a lot oh my gosh well i you know
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here's the thing do you think maybe he's the one swatting me it could be one of these you know
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nothing i'd all of these psyops they actually caught my swatter and he's in serving four years
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in prison one of them yeah one of them you know what he's he's got his spooky friends and they
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were like his CIA friends and he um something really weird happened to my phone before and
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before the interview dropped where and I know it was hacked into because I had I had switched
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phones to an iPhone um when we were dating and so it it brought up all the old texts like it
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imported them into my new phone and on the um on all the android he couldn't do it to the iphone
01:05:48.040
but on both numbers his boner phone and then his normal phone like all the android messages that
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had pictures all those pictures got wiped out but on my other phone my old phone that wasn't
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connected to like wi-fi or data or anything i still have all the pictures and everything i've
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got so much stuff I got so much oh maybe there'll be a book it's the future that that is part of
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why um you know I've been writing my memoirs down and that's probably why I've been like if I was
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going to say something to him because it was really interesting like I told you I was just
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telling people that it was emotional abuse but I'm telling my I'm dictating my story to uh Claude
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right right and claude's like cynthia let me stop you what you're describing is sexual abuse
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cynthia that is great i'm like claude i don't want to go there i so i'm like doing therapy with
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claude it's like oh well heavy well here's the thing when you write it down it becomes real
01:06:52.360
like you can talk about it all day long at least for me and and when you talk about things like
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this okay you can have a conversation you dismiss things in your head it's just very natural it's
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kind of like self-preservation but when you actually put a pen to a paper or if you start
01:07:08.680
typing about it and you start writing about it and you look at the words something else happens
01:07:13.400
it changes it it becomes more real and you're able to actually see it for what it is and that's why
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journaling and different things really help people as much as it does because then they can see it
01:07:24.640
for themselves it's not you being silly or you missing something it's it's real it may you should
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do a book yes it's it would be very good for you too stay tuned friends good good well how are you
01:07:43.220
now how are you now how's your life breeding you um the the night before i broke up with him
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um i i had had i had a uti which wasn't clearing up because all the stuff that
01:07:58.280
my expectations and then um i told him i told him that i didn't want to talk about one particular
01:08:06.300
person and I just was like I'm going to bed and I woke up that night that was the first night I had
01:08:13.720
and I worked in mental health right and so I'd never I'd had chest pains with anxiety but like
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I woke up in the middle of the night and I thought I was having a heart attack and I eventually went
01:08:24.400
back to sleep and then he woke me up and and was all upset with me and was insistent on doing his
01:08:29.780
stuff and that was part of I remember praying to God while I was doing that to just get me out of
01:08:34.700
this situation. And, um, and so that was the first panic attack that, um, the full blown one that I
01:08:42.020
had. And while I was working for Victoria Sparks, it was, um, it was, I think I was in fight or
01:08:51.640
flight mode, so I really didn't have them. So I started getting them really bad once I lost my
01:08:55.520
job and I was in a really bad period of time and it took a long time for, um, you know, I eventually
01:09:02.980
got another job but it it was hard it was a process I went but I you know for a positive
01:09:09.160
that's where um I was new to my faith before I met Thomas really stepped away from that
01:09:14.240
in that relationship and so I really leaned into God and um in a way that has been really powerful
01:09:20.760
for me and um and I I am someone who doesn't want to just sink into my own despair and so I give
01:09:28.800
back to my community um that's very important to me um and i love legislation i love policy i love
01:09:36.880
governance and so um and i was working for a legislative research company and and so now i'm
01:09:43.420
like i'm running for school board which i knew that i kind of compromised that a little bit and
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and honestly too right now the other thing um i learned that i can still if i can find a lawyer
01:09:54.460
So I don't know if anybody deals with employment law that's interested, but I really feel
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passionate about if I can still, because I heard my litigation is still open, even though
01:10:08.700
Like I want accountability so badly for what I know happens in the house and for Victoria
01:10:15.220
And even if I had a seat at the table to talk about like how to reform some of the things,
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there's not even whistleblower protection for house staff.
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Like the legislative branch doesn't have whistleblower protection for their staffers.
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The Hush Fund, it's, I mean, they are gagging people.
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They're making them sign these NDAs and they tell you, like, if you want to go public with
01:10:40.640
Your character assassination is going to happen.
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And I mean, I, you know, went public and everybody knows my story and what happened to me, but
01:10:51.880
so why did you decide to go and laura loomer and go and to go public well i went on a um an
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interview with mark carrie first uh okay you know people people are like why why now and it's
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interesting because i had reached out i mean you had randy fine talking to people about like oh
01:11:09.760
yeah she talked to me about the iranian money like a year ago like and there's tweets and stuff and
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And so I tried to tell my story, but then, you know, I was going through the legal route.
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And at first, with the House Office of Work Rights, at first when we were negotiating, you know, I was really concerned.
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I didn't want it to be through the Treasury, but she insisted on that.
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I was willing to do a lower amount if I didn't have to sign an NDA, but she was assistant on an NDA.
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and we came to that $60,000 number. And so we had an agreement, but it needed to go to the
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house for approval. And I knew that at any point in time, they were going to bring it back to me
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and I was going to have to sign that NDA. Meanwhile, you know, she had just won her primary
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and I knew if I signed that NDA, it was so intertwined with the story of what happened
01:12:05.720
to me with Thomas and just the cruelty and everything that I experienced with her.
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I realized if I if I do this, then I'm perpetuating this culture of harm to others.
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And and I couldn't do even though it's not life changing money, but that was circumstance changing money for me.
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I mean, I don't make a whole bunch and I'm a single mom and it's life's hard.
01:12:30.980
Like inflation be real, y'all. But but it was more important to me that there was transparency.
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And I think that the voters deserved to know that was the timing of it.
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It's really interesting, his beef with President Trump because he didn't nominate him.
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And then you have Marjorie Taylor Greene, who acted the exact same way, turned on Trump when he wouldn't support her as a Senate candidate because the polls told a completely different story.
01:13:02.260
You're talking about two of the same type of people.
01:13:05.260
And recently you had Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
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They were snapped vacationing together in Costa Rica.
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This is after the major loss, I mean, big loss there.
01:13:15.680
And he said that they were just discussing the future of the Republican Party, like they're going to be able to remake it or something.
01:13:22.840
So based on the Massey that you knew, what do you think really draws him to alliances like that?
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And where do you see him trying to go next politically?
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Oh, oh, this see, I am like, I would say I am the foremost expert on Thomas Master.
01:13:42.360
I'm, I'm, I, um, well, I'm politically savvy too.
01:13:48.880
We had a ton of conversations about what he wants to achieve.
01:13:53.140
And so, um, and, and I know how he reacts, um, to, um, rejection.
01:14:02.700
I mean, you saw it with Trump. You saw it with when I broke up with him. He it fuels him. It fuels him. And he, you know, at one point he was talking about the idea of maybe running for governor so he could take the federal government on from the state level. I do not. I mean, he filed his FEC report. Right. I don't think he's going to run for, you know, his congressional seat to get that back. I think now he's got to take it on the federal level.
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um so what you see is you see this this fringe group growing and and i was talking to you a
01:14:36.040
little bit ago about um francesca and you know you've got the whole james fishback effect you've
01:14:41.540
got yeah yeah they're not growing they're on their way down they're not calling the doomer grifters
01:14:47.200
but but they're they're they're not going to catch on in the mainstream right never so they
01:14:55.800
need this fringe and so the hope is the more people who are rejected so like for instance
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when the the day after I came out with my story I live in the Gates family area like Don Gates is
01:15:08.600
my state senator actually went and spoke in support of some of his bills his staffers are my
01:15:12.980
friends um but we stayed at some of their homes because they've got some beachfront property and
01:15:18.520
and their their close friends Matt Gates went up and campaigned for him and um as the as soon as I
01:15:25.360
you know came out with my story you had um you had Don Gates endorse my opponent even though he
01:15:33.020
said he wasn't going to endorse in the school board race and so now all of a sudden I'm thrown
01:15:37.500
into this Trump Gates family feud and so you've got you know Gates who's aligning with Massey
01:15:42.760
you've got Marjorie Taylor Greene uh you've got um you know Victoria Sparks I mean she's always
01:15:49.920
going to align with um I mean she I was listening to a recording of her trying to talk about how
01:15:55.260
she wants to take down the president um yeah good luck with that she's but she i mean just because
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it's not logical or rational doesn't mean that she's not going to try you know what i mean and
01:16:08.160
so they think that if they can band together and they can grow this rift and you see it particularly
01:16:12.300
with the anti-semitism that you know if you can make people angry or scared you see the dem it's
01:16:18.380
like a democrat playbook right make people angry or scared then you can control the narrative and
01:16:23.780
their behavior and so they're sitting there and they're telling people okay we were going to be
01:16:27.580
america first which is like isolationists right meanwhile they're taking iranian money and you're
01:16:33.680
like yeah that's tell us about that about the iranian connection all the influencers who take
01:16:42.220
money from other countries they i mean i mean they're supposed to say what country and how
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much through farin stuff and they don't can you walk us through that please the iran the iran
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connection with all of this this is where i was concerned and and i would just ask people to do
01:16:58.600
the verification um i've you know there's the the um campaign finance reports that you can take a
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look at but um the the one person that really was interesting to me was um and there's there's
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several but look at joe kiani um he was an iranian born but he you know naturalized he's american
01:17:17.160
um but he's a billionaire big democrat donor and um from what i'm seeing i would say um
01:17:25.660
and and from what i know and i he thomas talked about him he's done a few fundraisers with him
01:17:32.080
but um you know more of your um i would say pro-islamist but really if we're i mean that
01:17:37.900
hey radical islamist um palestine but more hamas um so he was really good friends with joe biden
01:17:45.900
And after the October 7th attacks on Israel, you had Palestine or Hamas, basically, so the terrorist organization funded through Iran, that they were in peace talks with Israel.
01:18:00.300
But then you had Joe Biden, who's friends with Joe Kiani, appointed him to some scientific advisory board, big donor.
01:18:07.040
Joe Biden goes to stay at Joe Kiani's California ranch.
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and that is when those peace talks dissolved and so you've got thomas who's going to these
01:18:20.060
fundraiser events um per the information i received he's going to these fundraiser events
01:18:26.060
and while he's there i mean this is not an isolationist he's saying we need to remove
01:18:30.300
all aid and assistance to israel this isn't hey let's focus on the united states and so let's
01:18:36.540
just not focus on israel this is hey we're gonna we're gonna help the other side because i can get
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money from them i'm gonna grift over here that's it's the same
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yeah they'll they'll grift anywhere the next paychecks that yeah but but that's the thing
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is is whatever it takes it's exploitative right like so he didn't really care about i mean
01:19:02.480
per my understanding you i mean you spoke to it right he really didn't do much in regards to
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Epstein until it was a politically convenient way for him to go after Trump, right? So
01:19:20.620
Well, I'm going to ask you one final question. And that is, how do you see this whole thing
01:19:26.420
in hindsight? I mean, looking back at it now, do you think that coming forward had any impact
01:19:33.280
on Thomas Massey's last race. Oh, absolutely. I do too. I mean, just, just look at the polling
01:19:41.940
data. Right. And, and on honestly, you know, there was the reality that he was ahead in the polls
01:19:47.880
when I came out with my story and, and I didn't know, I didn't know if he would still get reelected
01:19:54.380
or not, but I also knew that I had been trying to tell my story and people are like, why now?
01:19:59.800
And I've been trying to tell it. It's like, why do people want to listen now? Because it's a primary. That's when people, that's when you have a voice, when you can finally be heard. And I was given an opportunity to have a voice and I was able to go on Laura Loomer. And it's like, I was speaking truth. So, so is it that you don't want truth because it's inconvenient for you to have the truth told now and you would just rather suppress that?
01:20:25.460
I mean, because are we really here for transparency and accountability, particularly for, you know, people who've been victimized and such?
01:20:44.080
Thank you for, like, enlightening us about all of this stuff.
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Okay, because I know you've got, like, huge following and listeners.
01:20:54.260
so in this is just my my sick curiosity because i tried to google it if you have anyone who is a
01:21:02.880
urologist who is listening to these i have questions i have questions about pine cone
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and i just would like to talk to somebody with that um particular skill set a urologist
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yes okay he'll dig into it oh cynthia i can't wait i didn't leak it i didn't leak the pine
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cone it was my friend but it made for really good memes oh that was hilarious oh that's another
01:21:34.240
person you know the dilly meme team was one that really um you know helped take thomas massey down
01:21:52.940
Well, I look forward to reading your book when it comes out.
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And hopefully we can have you on again when it does because we would love to hear and read it, too.
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I mean, we would love to see that because I'm sure that's going to make a lot of waves, especially with the Massey camp, the Massey Nasties.
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oh yeah but and I think it can help people too I do too I hope that's what the focus is on
01:22:17.080
because it really is because that's really a problem especially with powerful men
01:22:22.040
in Washington DC and you look at your story and just listening to you just it was a complete
01:22:27.600
setup from the very beginning he wanted to manipulate and that's what that's what he did
01:22:33.080
I mean everything from your position in a job on your everyday affairs so pretty pretty grateful
01:22:40.940
that I'm sure that you got out of it I'm sure you're yeah looking back at it it's kind of like
01:22:46.320
relief that you were able to get out of that situation scary I'd stayed I mean any any longer
01:22:55.200
trying to get out I just as bad as it was getting out when I did I just I'm just grateful to God
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that I got out when I did well I am too oh my gosh well Cynthia thank you so much for joining
01:23:10.960
So, yeah, keep us updated on what all you're doing,
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because we'd love to have you back on the show for sure.
01:23:23.360
So you all learned quite a bit about what was going on over there.
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I found her totally credible as a normal person.
01:23:36.820
speaking 100 100 i mean she was telling you exactly what happened i mean just an awful
01:23:44.100
experience oh well there will be more of that i'm sure and again he hasn't pushed back on any of
01:23:49.880
these allegations so i mean she should write a book for sure that's what i'm hoping for because
01:23:55.080
i do think it will definitely help people i definitely believe that it will so um here we
01:24:03.640
go i wanted to let everybody know if you're not doing anything tomorrow we will be having a
01:24:08.240
political rendezvous this will be a good time we are going to discuss trump's 16 and oh you want
01:24:14.440
to talk about nasty massey and his just clobber well he was one of many and we're going to talk
01:24:20.720
about our powerful amazing president tomorrow and then we also have our question of the day
01:24:26.260
and i will go ahead and share that with you this is should all elections be in person only
01:24:42.540
just throwing that out there for you to see what
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yeah it's it's it's crazy i'm really sorry she had to endure it truly that washington dc man i
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don't even be near that place well thank goodness she's not going to be near that nasty massey
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anymore that's not the main thing i just hope he doesn't have you know others that he's putting
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into the same trap i know he's married but you know don't know all right well everyone i hope
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you have a wonderful rest of your day you all be safe and be kind to one another and we will
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see you all tomorrow at three o'clock p.m eastern time bye