In the Litter Box - September 26, 2025


Dinesh D'Souza： The Dragon's Prophecy ｜ In the Litter Box w⧸ Jewels & Catturd – Ep. 890 – 9⧸26⧸2025


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Length

1 hour and 12 minutes

Words per Minute

158.44847

Word Count

11,461

Sentence Count

1,048

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

43


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00:01:54.620 We'll be right back.
00:02:24.620 We'll be right back.
00:02:54.620 And Cat Turd, hey there, Cat.
00:02:56.940 How are you?
00:02:59.100 I don't know.
00:03:00.400 How are you?
00:03:01.740 Where did you go, Cat?
00:03:03.840 Are you there?
00:03:05.060 I can see you here.
00:03:07.500 But for some reason, I'm not getting your audio, and I'm not sure why.
00:03:12.520 So we may be a little bit behind with Cat today.
00:03:16.800 But I was hearing him just fine, and then poof, there he went.
00:03:21.980 So Cat's got his tongue.
00:03:23.180 Thank you, Mudhen17.
00:03:24.780 I'm going to use that one.
00:03:26.300 I don't know what happened.
00:03:27.640 Can you hear me?
00:03:28.560 Now I can hear you.
00:03:30.860 Yes.
00:03:31.420 Hi.
00:03:33.060 I have no idea what's going on.
00:03:35.240 No clue whatsoever.
00:03:37.000 But you know what?
00:03:37.860 The cat got your tongue, I guess.
00:03:40.520 That's what Mud helped me with.
00:03:42.320 Thank you.
00:03:43.200 I love our chat.
00:03:44.060 They're like the greatest.
00:03:45.000 They come in for the save every minute.
00:03:46.500 But anywho, just a little bit of news going on today.
00:03:50.540 Everything that you predicted came to life.
00:03:54.780 Cat turd.
00:03:55.880 They got going.
00:03:56.360 Oh, yeah.
00:03:58.320 Oh, man.
00:03:59.400 Yeah, well, I knew that was going to happen yesterday.
00:04:01.780 But, yeah, I mean, I think there's going to be more charges on him, too.
00:04:06.060 I think this is just the beginning.
00:04:07.740 He's a treasonous traitor.
00:04:09.320 I certainly hope so.
00:04:11.020 This guy's the scum of the earth, man, and he deserves it.
00:04:13.540 I mean, he's a scumbag, and he don't mind putting innocent people in jail and laughing about it.
00:04:18.380 He don't care.
00:04:19.880 Oh, my gosh.
00:04:20.640 He'll frame them.
00:04:21.380 He'll do anything.
00:04:22.320 Lie, cheat, steal.
00:04:24.640 Well, obviously, that warning to Pam Bondi worked because all of a sudden, you're getting all kinds of information.
00:04:33.060 You've got all of the stuff on January 6th.
00:04:34.880 But let's start with Comey first.
00:04:36.040 We've waited a long time for this clown.
00:04:39.280 So, major breaking news for those of you that don't know what's going on.
00:04:42.540 And you have James Comey, who was indicted.
00:04:44.700 Two counts, false statements, and obstruction of justice.
00:04:48.560 You've got the entire scope of what they've started with, at least, here.
00:04:53.440 And Attorney General Pam Bondi, she says,
00:04:55.860 No one is above the law.
00:04:57.080 Today's indictment reflects this Department of Justice's commitment to holding those who abuse positions of power accountable for misleading the American people.
00:05:06.880 We will follow the facts in this case.
00:05:10.000 Now, he has lied.
00:05:12.700 And if he is convicted, he will face up to five years in prison.
00:05:17.120 Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than maximum penalties.
00:05:22.480 But a federal district court judge will determine any sentence after considering the U.S. sentencing guidelines and any other statutory factors.
00:05:33.680 And, of course, he draws a Biden judge.
00:05:36.800 Of course.
00:05:37.480 Does that surprise you?
00:05:38.940 Every single time.
00:05:40.280 No matter who they get.
00:05:41.300 They get a left-wing judge.
00:05:43.200 Every single time.
00:05:44.580 How do we stop this?
00:05:47.180 I mean, it's ridiculous.
00:05:48.500 I agree.
00:05:49.120 I mean, they got a 100% record with it.
00:05:50.980 100%.
00:05:51.420 It should be 50-50.
00:05:52.820 I mean, you wouldn't have anything to worry about if you were able to draw the judge of choice every single time you did something wrong.
00:05:59.960 Come on.
00:06:00.240 You just need one that's fair.
00:06:04.700 Because it's a slam dunk case.
00:06:06.880 Oh, my gosh.
00:06:07.840 I mean, this is just totally craziness.
00:06:10.200 It really is.
00:06:11.720 Well, we have some really good news on top of really good news.
00:06:14.800 Besides the whole Comey saga, we have got Dinesh D'Souza, who is going to join us at halftime, the creator of Obama's America and 2000 Mules.
00:06:25.560 He was born in Mumbai, India.
00:06:28.540 Dinesh D'Souza, he came to the United States as an exchange student in 1978.
00:06:33.200 He graduated in 1983 from Dartmouth College, and he has just been a powerhouse ever since, and he is going to talk about his new movie, which I've been able to watch, and I love.
00:06:48.060 It's fabulous.
00:06:48.900 It's The Dragon's Prophecy, but you'll have to wait until halftime for that show.
00:06:54.620 It's like a totally different show.
00:06:56.040 You're going to love this movie.
00:06:57.680 It really explains a lot.
00:06:59.680 It goes into the history of the whole thing.
00:07:02.660 It's based on Jonathan Cahn's The Dragon's Prophecy.
00:07:07.660 It's the same name, but it's just wonderful.
00:07:10.400 You just wait.
00:07:11.580 I mean, you're going to enjoy it quite a bit, but, oh, I don't know.
00:07:17.020 End of times or beginning of times?
00:07:19.380 That's the question, because with all of these indictments, I'm pretty happy.
00:07:25.080 I'm sitting in a nice place right now.
00:07:27.060 I'm enjoying the view.
00:07:29.500 Thank you, Sonny.
00:07:30.000 It's the beginning.
00:07:30.420 Well, January 6-ers.
00:07:33.060 That, too.
00:07:33.740 God.
00:07:35.280 I mean, come on.
00:07:36.440 You mean the Fed's direction?
00:07:37.820 That's it.
00:07:38.640 That's the one we were talking about, losing our account.
00:07:41.260 272 Feds.
00:07:44.260 And that ain't counting guarantee.
00:07:45.880 That ain't counting cops.
00:07:47.340 There aren't Feds in plainclothes.
00:07:50.500 Or the Antifa people.
00:07:51.800 We were screaming that.
00:07:52.520 They were in front.
00:07:53.140 The whole thing was a setup.
00:07:56.000 Every bit of it.
00:07:56.960 So, they said roughly there was 4,000 or 5,000 people there.
00:08:00.540 1,000 went into the Capitol.
00:08:02.060 So, 30% of them were feds.
00:08:04.520 Mm-hmm.
00:08:05.000 I guarantee all the ones in front breaking the windows and stuff are feds.
00:08:10.460 I guarantee it.
00:08:11.540 Well, don't you remember we covered all of the ghost buses and all of that?
00:08:16.300 I mean, come on.
00:08:17.420 Yeah, they were all dressed like Antifa or ninjas.
00:08:19.660 And I was like, how many ninjas have you seen at a Trump rally?
00:08:22.540 All the people in front.
00:08:24.020 This is ridiculous.
00:08:25.500 I mean, what we have had to sit here and watch, knowing full well how they lied and they cheated,
00:08:30.920 and then the fedsurrection, just so they could make sure that President Trump didn't get back into office,
00:08:36.600 so that they could charge him for an insurrection.
00:08:39.980 They could blame everything on him.
00:08:41.760 And now, all of a sudden, you've got President Trump that is proving that all of these people played a part in this,
00:08:49.620 proving further why they stole the 2020 election.
00:08:53.260 I mean, is there any question in anybody's mind that that happened after all of this?
00:08:58.240 Come on.
00:09:00.080 Seriously.
00:09:01.540 They cheated in the election, and then they put – and they cheated in the election,
00:09:06.960 and then they set up January the 6th with the feds, and especially Christopher Wray.
00:09:13.460 They set that up, and then they used that as an excuse to miller –
00:09:18.260 Oh, my gosh.
00:09:19.700 Put the military, 60,000 troops, and then they inaugurated him with nobody there and 60,000 troops around and blamed it on COVID.
00:09:30.140 Mm-hmm.
00:09:31.180 It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life.
00:09:33.620 The whole thing was a scam.
00:09:34.860 Of course, they cheated.
00:09:36.080 Of course, they brought in ballots in the middle of the night.
00:09:38.880 He won all the swing states then again.
00:09:41.520 Mm-hmm.
00:09:41.980 And they cheated, and then they set up January the 6th, and then they set up this January 6th committee,
00:09:47.620 wouldn't let Republicans on it.
00:09:49.080 No, them two that they got aren't Republicans.
00:09:52.220 Oh, my gosh.
00:09:52.960 And now they're threatening, hey, you know what?
00:09:54.640 We're going to turn it around on you if you go down this road.
00:09:58.580 Are you kidding?
00:09:59.000 You already did that.
00:09:59.800 You started it.
00:10:01.360 I mean, really, Blumenthal?
00:10:02.580 Are you serious right now?
00:10:04.060 I mean, even to have that conversation when the left has been relentless in attacking the right?
00:10:10.460 I mean, anybody that was even close to President Trump's circle got attacked.
00:10:14.800 And let's not forget, they wrapped the Capitol in barbed wire to keep you out.
00:10:20.700 This is our house.
00:10:22.000 We're the ones that pay the bills.
00:10:23.840 But they were terrified because they knew exactly what they were doing was breaking every single oath,
00:10:30.440 every single law that you could do.
00:10:32.700 And so they wanted to protect themselves.
00:10:36.100 They wouldn't do that for you when they were burning your cities down.
00:10:39.660 Oh, my gosh.
00:10:41.740 One big scam.
00:10:43.080 Oh, it certainly is.
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00:12:40.260 What a great Friday.
00:12:42.260 After the last couple of weeks that we've had, Kat, we deserve it.
00:12:46.300 Yeah, I mean, we've been saying, I mean, there was 252 Ray Epps, 272.
00:12:54.520 It's incredible.
00:12:56.320 Go into the Capitol!
00:12:58.160 Go into the Capitol!
00:12:59.980 274 over here.
00:13:00.440 Plain closed agents in the crowd on January 6th.
00:13:03.760 It was a total Fed surrection.
00:13:05.820 We were talking about this, and guess what?
00:13:07.800 We lost our account on Twitch because they said we were defending domestic terrorists.
00:13:14.120 They were all feds.
00:13:17.800 They were feds!
00:13:19.400 How do you like that, Twitch?
00:13:21.240 Hmm.
00:13:22.840 Just ridiculous.
00:13:25.020 Absolutely ridiculous.
00:13:26.740 I mean, the whole thing was completely upside down, and we've been squawking about it for years.
00:13:33.980 I mean, you can thank Bezos for that.
00:13:36.180 You know, all these tech media giants, they played a part in this stuff.
00:13:40.520 I've been calling them.
00:13:41.400 I have a new name for the media, Kat, and I think you'll like it.
00:13:47.080 The media meatheads.
00:13:48.840 Because that's what they are.
00:13:50.120 They are so dumb.
00:13:51.680 They repeat the exact same line over and over again.
00:13:55.760 They get the memo, and they all use the exact same strategy.
00:13:59.160 It's propaganda to the hilt.
00:14:01.180 That is what I see them now as.
00:14:02.460 I just can't believe people still fall for it.
00:14:04.360 I can't.
00:14:04.880 It's so obvious, and it's getting worse and worse, and the ratings are going down.
00:14:09.200 And it's just like there's so – I mean, with the Internet, there's so much truth out there.
00:14:13.620 And they just keep – people just – I don't know.
00:14:16.860 I know the average age of people listening to cable news and, you know, the ABC news is like 68 now or something.
00:14:24.180 So it's going to be over.
00:14:25.940 Boy, this is really something.
00:14:28.300 I mean, it is.
00:14:29.120 I'll be glad when TV news just dies out completely because it's just awful.
00:14:32.980 Well, I think it is.
00:14:34.860 Citizen journalists is where in the future.
00:14:37.360 I mean, this whole thing with Comey, and of course he has to grandstand and make a statement.
00:14:42.000 I mean, the guy is such a freak.
00:14:42.820 Why should he?
00:14:44.680 Everyone that got arrested under Trump – and they were all innocent, by the way – they put a gag order on them.
00:14:50.060 I mean, think about that.
00:14:51.760 Where's the gag order?
00:14:53.100 Where's the raid in the middle?
00:14:54.400 I want him raided.
00:14:55.440 I know.
00:14:56.440 So does Roger Stone.
00:14:57.800 He's like, hey, look what they did to me.
00:14:59.520 What's the problem?
00:15:00.960 I mean, why isn't he getting that kind of treatment?
00:15:04.260 Nobody understands it.
00:15:07.500 There are more indictments that are coming.
00:15:10.100 This is just the tip of the iceberg.
00:15:13.340 That's what President Trump is basically warning of.
00:15:16.400 I cannot wait.
00:15:17.840 This is what we've waited for.
00:15:20.060 And I'll tell you what.
00:15:21.260 He's got to go through the whole thing just like President Trump and his team has.
00:15:25.040 But, I mean, why not the raids, Kat?
00:15:27.080 What's that all about?
00:15:30.100 Is there any explanation?
00:15:33.920 I mean, everybody's asking the same question.
00:15:37.040 No pre-dawn raid.
00:15:38.260 Disgraced former FBI director will be arraigned on October 9th.
00:15:42.200 He's going to surrender any moment now.
00:15:44.540 I know you cannot wait to see his mugshot.
00:15:46.420 Yeah, let's see the mugshot of that creep.
00:15:49.200 That guy's a scumbag.
00:15:50.380 I'm telling you, man.
00:15:51.080 He framed these people.
00:15:52.560 He went out and glowed about it.
00:15:54.060 I remember he was on the news saying they should put Trump in a double wide in the middle of nowhere with an ankle martyr and arrest him and put him there for the rest of his life.
00:16:02.560 Well, and he didn't stop there.
00:16:04.400 86-47?
00:16:05.760 I mean, come on.
00:16:06.480 That's a call to action if I've ever heard one.
00:16:08.660 And act like you don't know what it means.
00:16:12.100 Please.
00:16:13.220 This is ridiculous.
00:16:14.200 Give me a break.
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00:17:40.120 So I've got a whole bunch of littermates that have been ordering their faves.
00:17:43.700 I'm going to save that until Monday when we have a little bit more time.
00:17:47.340 But we've got Dinesh coming at halftime.
00:17:50.240 So I'm trying to move as fast as I possibly can.
00:17:53.920 I don't want to miss a word.
00:17:57.940 Well, this was some interesting, this was an interesting scoop, CAT.
00:18:01.620 I want to hear what you have to say about this.
00:18:04.620 On Thursday morning, you have the Gateway Pundit post Joe Hoff's report on Jim Comey's son-in-law.
00:18:11.640 He was working at EDVA.
00:18:13.920 Well, by Thursday evening, he's gone.
00:18:16.900 He resigned.
00:18:17.920 Yes, he did.
00:18:18.860 Good, we got all the Comey crooked family out now.
00:18:23.940 Well, let's not forget that Troy Edwards, he was a prosecutor on the Oath Keepers January 6th trial
00:18:30.900 where Biden's corrupt DOJ claimed, based on bogus information,
00:18:35.600 that the Oath Keepers intended to commit an insurrection on January 6th.
00:18:40.680 You've got Edwards on this case.
00:18:42.940 He did not recuse himself, which proves further that they were all in on it.
00:18:48.860 It's just one big joke.
00:18:52.700 Remember, everybody complained about Ray Epps, so they went in there.
00:18:55.180 Of course, anybody, who's the ringleader?
00:18:58.520 I mean, name one guy, if you say it was the ringleader of J6, the Fed's erection, you'd say Ray Epps.
00:19:05.440 And he didn't get arrested while everybody arrived in prison for four years.
00:19:08.100 They finally brought him in and said, okay, you've got to pay a $10 fine.
00:19:13.480 $10 fine, and, you know, that's it.
00:19:16.720 Oh, boy.
00:19:17.840 And then they go, see?
00:19:19.340 See, he's not a Fed.
00:19:21.340 We got him.
00:19:22.620 We arrested him.
00:19:24.480 Well, I mean, they had a mole in their midst.
00:19:26.840 But, I mean, this guy worked on January 6th cases, and this wasn't the only one.
00:19:31.560 He had two son-in-laws and one daughter in there working.
00:19:35.340 So, if you wonder how these agencies have been stacked against us the way they have, it's called nepotism.
00:19:44.000 Two son-in-laws, one daughter under James Comey that are working in the government.
00:19:49.460 Because, hey, you know what?
00:19:50.900 It's so profitable.
00:19:52.300 Just look at James Comey.
00:19:54.920 Look at what he was able to pull off.
00:19:57.620 Is that the message that we're supposed to hear?
00:20:00.980 Corrupt to the core.
00:20:02.220 Should be treason.
00:20:03.180 Yes, exactly.
00:20:06.440 Exactly what he did.
00:20:07.760 Well, it gives me hope that you say that you think this is just the beginning of many other charges.
00:20:11.920 It is.
00:20:12.600 I hope.
00:20:14.220 I hope.
00:20:15.600 Because they have all just lied over and over again.
00:20:19.340 And this clown, this Christopher Wray, I hope he's next.
00:20:22.980 He lied more than Comey.
00:20:25.080 Yep.
00:20:25.360 All he did was lie.
00:20:27.880 True.
00:20:28.300 All this, you know, resting Catholics and people singing Amazing Grace and all this stuff, it's all Christopher Wray.
00:20:38.040 He ran that thing like the brown shirt for the Democrat Party.
00:20:41.660 Well, I mean, he's sitting here lying about the whole thing.
00:20:45.120 Now, see, the one thing about Comey is I'm really glad that they charged him because guess what?
00:20:49.340 The statute of limitations was running out.
00:20:54.080 They had no choice.
00:20:55.780 They had to make a decision in a very short amount of time.
00:20:59.640 And every time they arrested somebody, I don't care if it was for jaywalking, they came in there with full SWAT teams right in front of their children in the middle of the night.
00:21:08.820 Yep.
00:21:09.120 And they made sure that they put it on camera, on the news.
00:21:11.860 Oh, they were hiding in the bushes.
00:21:13.200 That's what Comey deserves.
00:21:14.260 They shouldn't even have hinted that they were going to do it, and they should have raided his house.
00:21:20.020 Just, you know, just like they did Roger Stone and everything and showed it on the air, handcuffed him in his underwear, made him do the perp walk.
00:21:31.200 I mean, why does we always take the easy way out?
00:21:34.100 Do it just like they do it.
00:21:35.940 See how they like it.
00:21:37.660 I mean, that's part of it, right?
00:21:39.060 You do something wrong, and in order not to do something wrong, you sit there and you can only imagine yourself being hauled out there in your undies, right?
00:21:46.380 Going, okay, for the whole world to see.
00:21:50.700 They wanted to shut everybody up.
00:21:52.960 You better get in line, or this is what's going to happen.
00:21:55.520 It's ridiculous.
00:21:56.320 I mean, that's part of the punishment, I would think.
00:21:58.520 This is why you don't do things like that, because, hey, your wife's going to come out with messy hair.
00:22:03.020 You're going to be in your undies.
00:22:04.120 And, I mean, the whole thing just really doesn't look like the image you're trying to project to the American people.
00:22:08.680 They did it to the ex-president and current president's house.
00:22:12.920 Exactly.
00:22:13.960 And you think we can't.
00:22:14.740 I mean, why weren't you doing it to him?
00:22:16.520 Oh, my gosh.
00:22:17.620 And he didn't even do anything wrong.
00:22:19.240 Optics.
00:22:19.400 All the cases fell apart.
00:22:21.080 That's right.
00:22:21.960 Because they're all lying.
00:22:23.560 Well, I mean, here you've got Christopher Wray that is on camera, and he is completely lying.
00:22:28.540 I mean, FBI director just told, and this is Representative Andy Biggs, when he was there for the hearing,
00:22:35.660 he does not believe there were any undercover FBI agents in or around the U.S. Capitol on January 6th.
00:22:43.860 Here he is, in his own words.
00:22:45.100 Things here, and please don't distract here, because we're focusing on those who were there in an undercover capacity on January 6th.
00:22:53.440 How many were there?
00:22:55.220 Again, I'm not sure that I can give you that number as I sit here.
00:22:58.080 I'm not sure there were undercover agents on scene.
00:23:03.560 I find that kind of a remarkable statement, director.
00:23:06.240 At this point, you don't know whether there were undercover federal agents, FBI agents in the crowd or in the Capitol on January 6th.
00:23:17.020 I say that because I want to be very careful.
00:23:19.700 There have been a number of court filings related to some of these topics, and I want to make sure that I stick with him what's in my...
00:23:25.380 I understand that.
00:23:26.580 But I just...
00:23:28.020 I thought I heard you say you didn't know whether there were FBI agents or informants or human sources in the Capitol or in the vicinity on January 6th.
00:23:40.040 Did I misunderstand you?
00:23:41.180 I thought that's what you said.
00:23:41.880 Well, I referred very specifically to undercover agents.
00:23:44.680 Yeah.
00:23:44.900 And so are you acknowledging then there were undercover agents?
00:23:50.520 As I sit here right now, I do not believe there were undercover agents on scene.
00:23:55.560 Trying to play war games.
00:23:56.940 Mm-hmm.
00:23:59.260 Mm-hmm.
00:24:00.080 I was loving this.
00:24:01.440 I am loving this.
00:24:02.360 So where is he?
00:24:03.200 I mean, is he going to go and is he going to hop on to the media meatheads' different roundtable discussions and start answering questions?
00:24:10.560 No, I think he's probably going to hightail it to another country.
00:24:13.080 These people are so crooked.
00:24:15.940 They have been exposed for what they are, and their spin doctors are not going to help them this time.
00:24:20.340 They're just not.
00:24:22.380 They're just not.
00:24:23.780 They are crooked as the day is long, and they've gotten caught.
00:24:26.220 And James Comey, he gave everybody around Hillary, when they called her with the 33,000 emails, they went and informed her.
00:24:35.440 They gave her and Uma and everybody around her and her lawyer immunity.
00:24:39.460 Mm-hmm.
00:24:39.820 Then told them to get their laptops and then their phones and hit them with a hammer and destroy them.
00:24:49.580 They literally come to the rescue.
00:24:51.720 Amazing.
00:24:53.140 They let them off the hook every single time.
00:24:56.980 They don't want it.
00:24:57.640 They don't think that they ever need to be held accountable, and they're going to cover for each other.
00:25:03.060 That's what makes them more powerful.
00:25:06.800 So President Trump is knocking this whole thing down.
00:25:08.920 It's over.
00:25:09.700 I mean, it really, and it needs to be, or else we're not going to have a country back.
00:25:13.360 No question.
00:25:14.300 I mean, this is how bad it's gotten.
00:25:16.600 President Trump smacks down a reporter asking a gotcha question regarding Comey indictment and signals more indictments are coming against the deep state.
00:25:25.620 And I mean, he dropped the mic.
00:25:27.260 Here it is.
00:25:27.780 President Trump, are you worried now that the next time there's a Democratic president, they will indict your FBI director or people in your administration?
00:25:43.120 Well, that's what they tried to do, right?
00:25:44.720 They did it with me.
00:25:45.520 For four years, they went after me.
00:25:47.260 They went after me for four years, and that doesn't include the four great years that we had in the White House.
00:25:53.140 So when I ran it in 2016, when we won, it began before I got to office.
00:26:00.240 You know that.
00:26:00.980 Wait a minute.
00:26:01.960 Before I came to office, I started hearing rumors about Russia.
00:26:06.920 I said, what the hell do I have to do with Russia?
00:26:09.160 Nothing.
00:26:09.860 And then it got worse and worse, and some of the fakers, not you, but some of the fake news picked it up, and they loved it.
00:26:15.880 And we went through a long time with that.
00:26:18.000 And despite that, we had a great first term.
00:26:20.920 And because that's how it went, where they made you go and take a mugshot, is this more about justice, or is it about revenge?
00:26:31.520 It's about justice, really.
00:26:32.980 It's not revenge.
00:26:33.840 It's about justice.
00:26:34.820 It's also about the fact that you can't let this go on.
00:26:39.340 They are sick, radical left people, and they can't get away with it.
00:26:44.640 And Comey was one of the people.
00:26:47.620 He wasn't the biggest, but he's a dirty cop.
00:26:50.580 He's always been a dirty cop.
00:26:52.300 Everybody knew it.
00:26:53.840 And it's, you know, as far as the case is concerned, he gave an answer.
00:27:00.100 There you go.
00:27:03.120 Wow.
00:27:03.600 It's just going to get better and better from here.
00:27:08.100 That's how I see it.
00:27:09.340 Yeah, so I said it yesterday.
00:27:10.380 He's not going to, they're not charging him because they're weaponizing the Justice Department.
00:27:16.940 They're arresting him because he weaponized the Justice Department.
00:27:20.920 It's the opposite of what they're saying.
00:27:22.440 Correct.
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00:29:48.660 But I want to make sure before we have Dinesh who is going to join us on the show,
00:29:53.220 I want to show you what you have to look forward to.
00:29:56.140 This is the movie, the dragon's prophecy.
00:30:01.960 You're going to love this movie.
00:30:04.300 Check it out.
00:30:06.020 Then another sign appeared in heaven.
00:30:08.860 An enormous red dragon.
00:30:10.940 Revelation 12.3
00:30:12.080 Once again, an armed attack in the Middle East.
00:30:26.720 But this time, it's different.
00:30:33.220 October 7th was the Devil's Humming.
00:30:35.320 It's very hard to believe what happened.
00:30:41.460 Even though I was there and seeing with my own eyes and seeing them laughing and killing
00:30:45.760 and having fun with it.
00:30:47.740 Because if you don't open the door, they are going to kill you and they are going to kill
00:30:51.500 me.
00:30:51.780 So please open the door.
00:30:52.800 So who are the Jews?
00:30:59.620 Who are the Palestinians?
00:31:01.260 And whose land is it really?
00:31:05.360 Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?
00:31:11.760 The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation.
00:31:16.040 So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?
00:31:23.340 The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy, attacking a woman
00:31:30.100 representing Israel.
00:31:32.080 The civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.
00:31:37.620 The mass did everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.
00:31:43.160 We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life.
00:31:47.880 And we're going to keep it.
00:31:49.840 The Devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God.
00:31:55.720 Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.
00:31:59.400 If we're approaching the end of time, God will reveal himself more and more dramatically.
00:32:08.060 Speak back through the stones.
00:32:10.180 The story that Dave has been telling is that Israel is a colonial project.
00:32:14.100 The problem with that is the city of David.
00:32:17.100 We are an inconvenient truth.
00:32:20.120 Are you aware of any significant archaeological finding that contradicts the Bible?
00:32:26.540 No.
00:32:26.800 God's word stands firm.
00:32:33.180 The dragon will not prevail.
00:32:38.540 Your message here is become a dragon slayer.
00:32:43.280 That's it.
00:32:44.260 Based on Jonathan Cahn's number one international bestseller, The Dragon's Prophecy.
00:32:49.280 This fall.
00:32:49.900 Earth to God.
00:32:53.900 Come in God.
00:32:56.800 Oh boy, I cannot stress enough how good this movie is and how powerful it is.
00:33:06.180 And we have got it here.
00:33:08.140 And we have got the man himself, Dinesh D'Souza, joining us today.
00:33:13.060 Hey there.
00:33:14.120 How are you?
00:33:15.680 How are you?
00:33:16.380 I am very excited about this film, guys.
00:33:20.940 And so thanks for having me on to talk about it.
00:33:23.420 Oh, we are so excited about this film.
00:33:26.000 And seriously, you did an incredible job portraying all the different things about it.
00:33:32.260 I've got so many questions.
00:33:33.540 Sometimes it's even hard to know where to start.
00:33:35.600 But my goodness, first off, you were there.
00:33:39.480 You got to see Gaza.
00:33:40.820 You got to see the area.
00:33:42.300 And you were hearing a lot of these bombs and everything else go on.
00:33:46.060 Were you at all nervous about this?
00:33:47.900 I was a little bit, but, you know, weirdly, we felt like this is a mission-driven type
00:33:55.260 of project that we are doing because we think that there is a spiritual meaning behind all
00:34:02.360 this.
00:34:03.160 And that gave us a certain kind of fearlessness.
00:34:07.280 I also wanted to show the world some of the October 7th footage that has never really
00:34:15.680 been seen.
00:34:16.500 The Israeli government made a decision to, like, let's show it to some journalists from
00:34:21.980 CNN and, like, Sky News and the BBC.
00:34:26.740 Of course, these people are pure propagandists.
00:34:29.380 They're ideologically dug in.
00:34:31.280 But we've been collecting this footage for two years.
00:34:34.080 And so we very powerfully but tastefully put it together.
00:34:37.980 There's nothing that you, like, can't watch.
00:34:40.460 But the movie does begin with a kind of you're on the scene on October 7th.
00:34:45.420 And the remarkable thing is this footage is not taken by Israel.
00:34:48.700 It's taken by Hamas.
00:34:50.400 It's taken by the attackers.
00:34:52.060 So it's almost like you've got a GoPro and you're going in with the attackers across the
00:34:57.260 fences into Israel.
00:34:58.660 Goodness sakes.
00:35:01.320 Right.
00:35:01.880 So let's...
00:35:02.860 How many movies is this for you now, Denise?
00:35:05.640 You know, I think this is number eight.
00:35:08.940 And as you know, it's a departure for me because my earlier films have all been in one way or
00:35:15.180 another about the meaning of America.
00:35:17.400 Obama, Hillary's America, even my film 2,000 Mules about election fraud.
00:35:24.720 So I've gone abroad for the first time.
00:35:28.180 And yet in some ways, I want to focus in this movie on the implications of what's happening
00:35:34.220 for us as Christians, as conservatives.
00:35:38.300 I want to foster a debate on what it really means to be America first.
00:35:44.220 Because for me, America first never means America alone or America only.
00:35:51.040 It means that we live in a dangerous neighborhood in this world of ours.
00:35:55.380 And we have to identify and distinguish our friends from our enemies.
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00:36:49.840 This is really a powerful, powerful movie.
00:36:53.840 I have a couple of questions for you.
00:36:56.480 The movie centers on Revelation 12, interpreting the dragon as Satan, the devil, waging war on
00:37:03.520 the woman, symbolizing Israel or God's people.
00:37:07.820 How do you envision the Gaza conflict as a modern manifestation of the dragon's war against
00:37:13.960 the woman in Revelation 12, evolving in the coming years, particularly in light of the
00:37:19.800 ongoing push for Palestinian statehood?
00:37:23.740 Yeah.
00:37:24.580 So the Jews are a resurrected people in the sense that the Bible predicts that they will
00:37:32.040 come back to their ancestral homeland.
00:37:34.500 And that, of course, has already happened.
00:37:36.480 It happened starting in 1948.
00:37:39.460 The premise of this film is very startling.
00:37:41.620 What if God's great enemy, which is to say the devil, who is always in war with God?
00:37:49.640 I mean, when we talk about spiritual warfare, those are the primary combatants.
00:37:54.860 It's God versus the devil.
00:37:56.780 And the devil operates as a kind of inverted angel.
00:38:00.080 So if God is resurrecting the Jews back into their ancient homeland, the question is this.
00:38:06.120 What if the devil goes, I'll do the same thing?
00:38:09.240 I will take one of the ancient enemies of Israel, in this case, the Philistines, and I will resurrect
00:38:15.280 a group of people called Palestinian.
00:38:18.360 By the way, Palestine, Philistine, it's the same word.
00:38:22.140 But it's not just the same word.
00:38:24.320 They're going to use the same tactics.
00:38:27.120 Look, for example, at the biblical hero called Samson.
00:38:30.880 He represents the strength of Israel.
00:38:32.620 Now, he's captured by the Philistines, and they blind him.
00:38:37.060 So they blind him in kind of the same way Israel was blinded on October 7th.
00:38:42.040 And the Bible says they drag him back.
00:38:44.220 Where?
00:38:45.020 To Gaza.
00:38:46.280 So the Philistines were based in Gaza.
00:38:48.760 It was then called Philistia, but there were five cities in Philistia, and one of them,
00:38:52.980 the main one, Gaza.
00:38:54.820 And when Samson gets to Gaza, the people of Gaza say,
00:38:58.700 strip him down and bring him out to entertain us.
00:39:02.620 This is exactly what happens right after October 7th.
00:39:06.000 The Jewish hostages are stripped.
00:39:08.200 They are brought out into the public, and people are dancing around them.
00:39:11.700 Allahu Akbar, celebrating all this.
00:39:14.280 So I'm trying to get people to see October 7th, you know, on the second anniversary coming up,
00:39:19.060 not just as like an historic event.
00:39:21.560 It's a terrorist episode.
00:39:22.640 No, it's kind of a biblical event.
00:39:25.260 And if you look at it through this enlarged perspective, you actually begin to see things
00:39:30.180 in a very, in a new light.
00:39:32.240 And you begin to see how we, in America, we as Christians are implicated in all this.
00:39:37.520 It's true.
00:39:38.520 It's true.
00:39:39.540 I mean, given your interpretation of the October 7th, 2023 events, Hamas attacks, they're
00:39:46.740 spiritual, they're prophetic.
00:39:48.800 It's a battle.
00:39:49.920 What specific actions do you believe Israel and its allies should take to address the
00:39:55.220 conflict and fulfill the call of to become a dragon slayer?
00:39:59.500 So this is the take home of the movie.
00:40:04.460 And, you know, I don't mind sharing it because this is the kind of film that you have to experience
00:40:09.040 for yourself.
00:40:10.660 Even if I tell you what it's about, you know, in a really good film, you can tell someone
00:40:15.060 what it's about, but it gives them no idea of what the film is actually like, right?
00:40:18.820 If I were to tell you, you know, the Shawshank Redemption is about friendship, and it's about
00:40:23.120 prison reform and life inside the prison.
00:40:25.520 It still gives you no clue about what it is like to experience that film.
00:40:31.960 Now, I would argue that what's happening right now is that Israel is rediscovering its ancient
00:40:38.340 strength.
00:40:39.680 I mean, look at a country of 10 million, Israel, taking on a country of 80 million, Iran, and
00:40:45.660 basically whipping them in like three days.
00:40:48.360 And Israel is simultaneously fighting.
00:40:50.820 It's fighting with Sudan.
00:40:52.040 It's fighting with Yemen.
00:40:53.040 It's fighting with the disguised influences of Qatar and Turkey.
00:40:58.460 And so you have little Israel, and its ability to fight radical Islam is downright astounding.
00:41:04.920 I mean, they're better at it than we are, right?
00:41:07.800 Because go back to the 1970s, Jimmy Carter pulls the Persian rug out from the Shah.
00:41:13.180 We get Khomeini.
00:41:14.200 We helped radical Islam get a major state.
00:41:17.820 After 9-11, we go to Afghanistan.
00:41:20.260 We clobber the Taliban.
00:41:21.420 But guess what?
00:41:22.280 They're back.
00:41:23.060 We go to Iraq.
00:41:24.260 We make a mess of it over there.
00:41:25.960 So my argument for the U.S. supporting Israel is they are fighting a war against people who
00:41:33.300 hate us as much, if not more than them, who are dedicated to our destruction.
00:41:38.980 And they know how to do it.
00:41:40.480 We don't actually know how to do it.
00:41:42.540 They're doing it really well.
00:41:43.920 So we're really lucky to have them.
00:41:46.380 Oh, I mean, it's wild because even just today, you've got Al-Qaeda, who is calling for attacks
00:41:53.020 on the U.S. as its former leader, is welcomed as a statesman.
00:41:58.680 Absolutely.
00:41:59.380 And look at what happened at the U.N., all these people walking out.
00:42:02.400 I mean, the remarkable thing here is, and the question I want to ask in this film, there
00:42:08.600 are a lot of Christians who seem to be turning young people against Israel.
00:42:12.780 Some of this is driven by a kind of MAGA right faction that is attacking Israel and basically
00:42:19.280 says Israel controls America, all this kind of thing.
00:42:23.340 But my message to Christians is that just as the Jews have to put on a physical armor,
00:42:29.360 just like the ancient Israelites, we as Christians need to put on a spiritual armor like the Christians
00:42:35.480 of the Book of Acts.
00:42:37.080 In other words, our enemies are going back to the beginning.
00:42:40.220 And by our enemies here, I mean two groups, not just the radical Muslims, but also the cultural
00:42:46.000 left in the West.
00:42:48.040 I mean, isn't it weird that the cultural left, these LGBTQ, these queers for Palestine,
00:42:55.100 I mean, these guys are not similar to the radical Muslims.
00:42:58.880 They would exist, these two groups do not exist comfortably with each other.
00:43:03.560 And yet they are joined at the hip.
00:43:05.800 And if you look at the cultural left and its terrorists, sort of like the guy who shot
00:43:10.180 Charlie Kirk, and then you look at the terrorists produced by radical Islam, they're very similar.
00:43:15.600 They say the same things, they engrave their bullets, they shout the same slogans,
00:43:21.100 they can be seen at the same rallies marching together.
00:43:24.040 Gosh, it is so true.
00:43:25.580 And it's just heating up.
00:43:27.360 And you have to start to ask yourself, okay, this looks like it's homegrown.
00:43:31.260 They're carrying the exact message, of course, worldwide.
00:43:35.800 Sorry about that.
00:43:37.560 It scared me.
00:43:38.580 I'm like, okay, who just joined us?
00:43:39.920 All right, we're being spied on now.
00:43:41.480 An imposter.
00:43:44.420 Wow.
00:43:44.860 But we have Netanyahu, who broadcasts the United Nations message into Gaza,
00:43:51.040 accusing world leaders of appeasing evil.
00:43:53.720 I mean, all of this is happening right now.
00:43:56.880 You know, I have a one-on-one with Netanyahu.
00:43:59.480 I did about 45 minutes with him.
00:44:01.220 And there's about five minutes of it in the film.
00:44:04.180 But it's Netanyahu really in the zone, meaning not like you normally see him.
00:44:09.280 I asked him, like, what do you think of Jesus?
00:44:11.000 Because I thought it would be fascinating to hear a Jewish leader of a Jewish state comment on the most famous Jew in the world, namely Jesus Christ.
00:44:18.380 And then I also asked him to respond to some of the things that Tucker Carlson said in his conversation with Ted Cruz.
00:44:24.580 So, in one way, this is a very timeless sort of biblical film.
00:44:29.860 It's got archaeology on King David and Jeremiah and Pontius Pilate.
00:44:34.200 But on the other hand, it's like ripped out of the headlines.
00:44:37.920 It deals with, you know, the left-wing calling Israel a colonial power.
00:44:42.220 It deals with the issue of genocide.
00:44:43.760 And it deals with the right-wing critique, like, how do you know the Jews of today are really descended from the ancient Israelites in the Bible?
00:44:51.940 That question is answered in the film.
00:44:54.920 Oh, it definitely is.
00:44:56.240 And especially on the heels of what happened with Charlie Kirk.
00:45:00.260 My gosh.
00:45:01.140 I mean, we are all just devastated over this whole thing.
00:45:05.320 No, absolutely.
00:45:07.420 Hey, guys, if I can say the website is the Dragons, plural, thedragonsprophecyfilm.com because it's in theaters for two days, October 6th, October 8th.
00:45:18.500 So, right around October 7th.
00:45:20.540 And then October 9th, the next day, it's in streaming.
00:45:23.560 It's in DVDs.
00:45:25.440 So, sign up.
00:45:26.600 If you can go to the theater, I make these films for the theater.
00:45:29.260 That's ideal.
00:45:30.760 But all the tickets have to be from the website, thedragonsprophecyfilm.com.
00:45:36.160 Fantastic.
00:45:37.220 Because I'm telling you, I watched it.
00:45:39.180 I was glued to it.
00:45:40.660 And you know what?
00:45:41.160 That's not going to be the first time I watch it, Dinesh.
00:45:43.260 I've got to watch it again.
00:45:44.900 There is so much in there.
00:45:46.900 It is jam-packed with history.
00:45:49.340 And, I mean, when you first get to the film and you start remembering what happened during October 7th.
00:45:55.220 Okay, we all remember that day.
00:45:56.880 We saw it all over the news.
00:45:58.120 You had it splashed on every single headline.
00:46:01.380 It was horrible to watch.
00:46:02.540 You saw the fear in those women's eyes and just the people, the beheadings, all of it.
00:46:09.140 And then you go into the history of it all, the archaeology and everything else that is going on simultaneously
00:46:17.440 and how these things are connected.
00:46:20.300 It was mind-blowing to me.
00:46:22.140 Well, our debate is so bogged down, right, with so many slogans.
00:46:27.720 And also the problems in the Middle East have seemed so insoluble.
00:46:31.800 I came to this country at the age of 17 in the very late 1970s.
00:46:37.040 There was a Carter peace plan, the Reagan plan, the Clinton plan, and on and on it goes, the Obama plan.
00:46:43.420 And so it's interesting to ask why it is that this is such an insoluble problem.
00:46:50.200 In other parts of the world, India, Pakistan, it warms up, it cools down.
00:46:54.200 The Northern Ireland thing has largely gone away.
00:46:56.980 This thing has proven to be intractable.
00:47:00.960 And the Bible actually predicts this.
00:47:02.720 The Bible says this thing will not be permanently solved.
00:47:05.740 You can improve it.
00:47:06.620 You can make things better.
00:47:07.600 I think Trump is trying to make things better in all kinds of ways.
00:47:11.360 But on the other hand, I don't think there's going to be an ultimate solution,
00:47:15.680 in part because Israel in some ways represents ground zero of Bible prophecy.
00:47:21.620 I can see that.
00:47:23.460 I mean, this latest, the recent U.S. bombings are a clear indicator of the Iranian nuclear sites.
00:47:29.980 I mean, it sets back Tehran's program by many years, according to the Pentagon assessments.
00:47:35.200 But it aligns with the film's warnings of an escalating global instability.
00:47:40.480 And it's a sign of the Black Sabbath and the dragon's rage in the Middle East.
00:47:45.740 I mean, we're looking at this going, okay, wow, there's too many similarities here.
00:47:53.280 Yeah.
00:47:53.960 And also think of all the people, you know, on our own side who said, we can't do this.
00:47:59.460 I remember people predicting that Russia and China would get involved.
00:48:03.420 World War III was going to be kindled.
00:48:05.540 The U.S. was going to be drawn into a wider war.
00:48:08.640 Young people from this country are going to be dragged into it.
00:48:12.160 And really, it was none of that.
00:48:13.640 Basically, what Israel said is, we're going to do the job.
00:48:16.500 But guess what?
00:48:17.540 We need one B-2 bomber on loan for 24 hours with a couple of fighter jets to protect it.
00:48:24.500 Come and drop some bombs on these nuclear facilities and then go back home and enjoy your life.
00:48:29.580 We're going to continue the fight over here.
00:48:31.220 So they're carrying the weight.
00:48:34.780 Basically, that's for the price of a lone B-2 bomber for one day.
00:48:40.080 We were able to essentially terminate Iran's nuclear capacity, at least for the foreseeable future.
00:48:45.700 I mean, talk about a bargain.
00:48:48.480 Well, definitely.
00:48:49.240 Well, I think the reason a lot of people are skeptical, Mike, I'm in my 60s, is because every time we go to the Middle East, they always say it's going to be something like that.
00:48:57.240 And then we get drawn into something for years and years, which is not our fault.
00:49:00.360 It's the people in charge.
00:49:02.300 It is the people in charge.
00:49:03.780 I mean, look, I think we can learn here a little bit from Reagan, because the Soviet Union, when they invaded Afghanistan in 1979, 100,000 troops, Reagan was like, listen, we're not going in there.
00:49:16.960 We're not sending a single U.S. soldier.
00:49:19.380 Now, we might give him some Stinger rockets to shoot down some Soviet helicopters.
00:49:24.820 We're going to help these Afghans chase the Soviets out.
00:49:28.340 But we're going to use military force only as a last, last resort.
00:49:33.500 Now, that idea got forgotten somehow under the Bush years, both the father and the son.
00:49:38.620 And we started this military adventurism, which lasted about 15 years and turns out to have been a horrible mistake.
00:49:45.120 Oh, my gosh, yes.
00:49:47.820 I mean, that's the thing.
00:49:48.760 Well, and then look at what happened with Biden.
00:49:50.980 My gosh, Afghanistan.
00:49:52.500 We all look at that.
00:49:53.440 What a disaster.
00:49:55.180 They don't want to talk about that.
00:49:56.580 The left doesn't want to talk about it.
00:49:57.980 It was completely mismanaged.
00:49:59.720 They ended up getting more than what we ever thought that they were going to get.
00:50:05.100 I mean, so we talk about Charlie Kirk and we talk about moving forward.
00:50:10.360 I mean, with the election of President Trump, the strategic U.S. strikes on Iran and Charlie Kirk's turning point movement, which is energizing young conservatives.
00:50:21.460 I mean, are we as a nation better prepared to fend off the prophetic looming invasion of radical ideologies that your film warns is central to the destiny of nations like America and Israel?
00:50:33.480 Well, let's just say that the devil is on the march and his troops, which include the cultural left on one side and the radical Muslims on the other.
00:50:47.060 These people are not only mobilizing, but they're working together.
00:50:50.260 And so it's important, I think, for, let's just say, God's battalions, which, by the way, I think includes the nation of Israel, but also includes Christians, includes the United States of America.
00:51:02.920 We need to, in a sense, equip ourselves and work together as well.
00:51:08.280 You know, when people talk about the fact that this is a spiritual battle and a spiritual war, we have to realize it's a war ultimately of it's the war that goes back to the very beginning.
00:51:19.880 I don't just mean to the Garden of Eden.
00:51:21.520 I mean, even before that, the war in heaven between God and Lucifer.
00:51:25.540 And here's the point that Lucifer actually, the devil, cannot beat God.
00:51:29.760 God is stronger.
00:51:30.880 So what does Lucifer do?
00:51:32.520 He basically says, what does God really value?
00:51:36.000 What does God really cherish?
00:51:38.400 Let me go and ruin that guy.
00:51:40.620 So if God cherishes Adam and Eve, the first humans, Lucifer goes, let me go corrupt those two people.
00:51:46.860 And then if God says, well, I have a chosen people and they're the Jews, the devil goes, you know what?
00:51:52.660 Let me go and let me go and build an Islamic golden arch right on the top of the Solomon's temple.
00:51:59.860 Let me try to get the Jews out of there from the river to the sea.
00:52:04.200 This is going to be my agenda.
00:52:05.900 And then let me morally try to corrupt the Christians and divide them from the Jews.
00:52:11.060 So look, I mean, all of this is going on right now, which means that the devil is kind of in full high gear.
00:52:18.680 And I think when Charlie Kirk, the message of renewal that so many people talked about at his funeral, I was there sitting right up the front.
00:52:26.460 I love that idea. And I think I want this film to be a part of that renewal in which we are raising the level.
00:52:35.020 We are obviously actively involved in politics, but we also recognize the larger stakes for the human soul.
00:52:42.160 Oh, I think that's a wonderful, wonderful thing for you to, you know, for you to team up with this amazing thing that Charlie Kirk created.
00:52:51.660 I mean, his legacy is going to go on indefinitely.
00:52:55.880 I mean, this man just I I'm still not over the shock of the whole thing.
00:53:00.160 We were live when when it all happened.
00:53:03.240 And you want to talk about one of the toughest shows we've ever done.
00:53:06.540 It was just heart wrenching and cat nose.
00:53:10.280 I mean, he just when he winced, he saw a part of the video.
00:53:14.180 You know how social media is when he winced.
00:53:17.140 I knew. I knew.
00:53:19.520 Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, Debbie and I saw that video together and we we just gave a look at each other.
00:53:25.120 We didn't actually want to say the words, but the same thing was going through our head.
00:53:29.240 We're like, we don't see how this poor kid can survive this.
00:53:33.380 This looks like the worst kind of wound.
00:53:36.680 And in fact, later, his pastor, Charlie's pastor, who was right there on the scene, said, listen, by the time we put him into the SUV, he was dead.
00:53:44.820 Yeah, I really didn't know what to say at the time because it was live and I seen it and nobody else had seen it yet.
00:53:50.920 And I was like, I just there's just no there's no surviving that.
00:53:53.960 I didn't think past five or six seconds.
00:53:56.540 Yeah, exactly.
00:53:57.500 I mean, the good news is there wasn't a lot of suffering involved because it was so instantaneous.
00:54:02.680 I also think it's symbolically significant that he was shot.
00:54:06.860 Think of it in the throat.
00:54:08.200 So really shutting down his voice.
00:54:11.900 And and that is really what the shooter was going for.
00:54:15.720 But boy, it sure didn't, did it?
00:54:18.040 It did not.
00:54:18.900 It did not.
00:54:19.540 It's emboldened, I think, all of us.
00:54:22.060 And it's caused us to want to do even more, work even harder and and pick up where Charlie left off.
00:54:30.420 I think it's creating unity, too, amongst us all.
00:54:34.920 We all felt that we were all there.
00:54:37.400 We watched that.
00:54:38.380 And I think that going forward with having that as something that we all experienced together, I think it did make us stronger.
00:54:47.180 It did call for unity.
00:54:49.100 And we need to do it.
00:54:51.080 And we have we have so many of those dragons out there in every corner just waiting.
00:54:57.580 I mean, and when you start talking about Charlie Kirk and in his unwavering advocacy for Israel, you know, as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy through Turning Point USA and his assassination in September amid conspiracy theories.
00:55:12.960 I mean, how does his legacy bolster the spiritual preparation needed to confront the end of time's battle depicted in the dragon's prophecy?
00:55:23.280 Well, Charlie was a bridge builder, and I think he was trying to heal two types of divide that are now very present on the right.
00:55:32.700 And we should be kind of forthright about it.
00:55:35.000 One is the divide between the pro-Israel and the anti-Israel factions on the right.
00:55:41.640 And this is very bad because we don't really want to chase either one of those factions away.
00:55:46.920 Both factions are patriots.
00:55:49.720 Both factions are right of center.
00:55:51.580 Both factions are love America.
00:55:54.680 Both factions are behind Trump.
00:55:56.460 So it's kind of like, you know, we don't want to we don't want to lose Tucker Carlson, but we don't want to lose Mark Levin either.
00:56:03.740 So that's one problem.
00:56:05.040 The second problem is somewhat generational.
00:56:06.920 The older conservatives who are the base of the Republican Party are very pro-Israel.
00:56:13.420 A lot of younger people coming up, Gen X or Gen Z, tend to be more anti-Israel.
00:56:19.440 So there's a generational divide on top of the ideological divide.
00:56:23.960 So I'm hoping that what this film does, you'll notice the film is in a way very I mean, there's no name calling in it.
00:56:31.340 In fact, I did a debate this morning with Oron McIntyre on should MAGA Christians support Israel?
00:56:38.300 Very civil debate in the right spirit.
00:56:40.560 I think when we have more of this kind of discussion and debate, and I want the film to be a part of this,
00:56:45.900 it helps to bridge those gaps and heal those divides and make our side, which is basically the side of good, stronger than ever.
00:56:55.460 Well, yes, and especially debate, where people can come out and they can talk and just continue on with what Charlie Kirk was doing.
00:57:04.520 Talk about it.
00:57:05.860 Talk loud about it.
00:57:07.200 Explain yourself, your side, why you see things the way that you do.
00:57:11.320 He never made people feel, the videos that I've seen, you know, ashamed.
00:57:16.040 He didn't make them feel ashamed for what they were saying or anything else.
00:57:19.200 He just had a point of view and he expressed it and they would express theirs and there was an exchange of ideas.
00:57:24.220 I thought that was a wonderful thing.
00:57:26.760 And if we could do more of that and less of just the name calling and the division.
00:57:33.120 It's a hornet's nest right now.
00:57:34.740 It is.
00:57:35.180 It really is.
00:57:36.160 It is.
00:57:37.400 You know, Charlie, I'll tell you what Charlie's secret weapon was.
00:57:40.680 And that is that because the left has established such a monopoly on the campus,
00:57:45.760 they don't teach anything that departs from the left.
00:57:50.900 And so Charlie would go on campus and these smug students would be like, you didn't go to college.
00:57:55.640 I went to college.
00:57:56.760 I know so much more than you.
00:57:58.200 You don't know anything, Charlie.
00:57:59.700 And Charlie would say, who was Alexander Solzhenitsyn?
00:58:03.400 And they would go, uh.
00:58:04.940 And Charlie would go, who was Friedrich Hayek?
00:58:08.500 And they'd be like, uh, never heard of him.
00:58:10.680 Who was Milton Friedman?
00:58:12.040 Don't know much about him.
00:58:13.220 So the fact that the left created this academic bubble in which they, you know, did not expose themselves to Edmund Burke,
00:58:22.680 Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, the thinkers on the right.
00:58:27.580 Charlie could just bring these names up.
00:58:29.560 And these guys were basically, you know, their ignorance was exposed.
00:58:34.300 And so Charlie was really effective at being able to show, you know, I may not have gone to college, but guess what?
00:58:39.380 I happen to know more about some things than you do.
00:58:41.460 If he said, who's Karl Marx, all of them would, I know, I know.
00:58:47.100 That's right.
00:58:49.180 Well, we've talked about that for quite some time.
00:58:52.920 I mean, about the universities and about how they are not teaching kids what you need to learn out in the real world.
00:59:00.440 And they are teaching them.
00:59:02.080 I mean, they're radicalizing these kids.
00:59:04.580 And so to have a voice out there, and I'm so happy to hear that Turning Point is going to continue those conversations and those debates.
00:59:12.400 It's so important.
00:59:14.420 Now, how can we all get involved in something like that?
00:59:17.260 I mean, showing this movie is a great start to have those tough conversations.
00:59:23.140 I mean, it's very factual.
00:59:24.620 It's historical.
00:59:26.140 I mean, you're not just telling a story.
00:59:28.340 It's all there.
00:59:29.600 You've got the archaeological digs and everything else going on, and you are showing it and comparing it to the Bible.
00:59:37.700 Yeah.
00:59:38.140 I like to put people on the scene so then they can see for themselves.
00:59:42.280 Like, remember 2,000 mules?
00:59:43.780 I didn't just tell you, look, they boarded up the windows.
00:59:46.660 They've got affidavits.
00:59:47.820 I'm like, look, I'm going to put you on the scene of people at the mail-in drop boxes of the 2020 election, and you look and see what they're doing.
00:59:55.000 See if it looks to you to be on the up and up.
00:59:57.420 And similarly here with October 7th, it's like you're right there on the scene.
01:00:02.080 So young people like this because there's a realism to it.
01:00:06.240 And obviously we live in a visual culture today where people like film.
01:00:11.940 They like film as a medium and as a stimulant to discussion.
01:00:14.820 It's a big reason why I moved from being primarily a book writer to now making the documentary films that I do.
01:00:21.460 And we try to make them a lot like movies, very cinematic, very theatrical.
01:00:26.820 So, yeah, I'm hoping that the film is an educational mechanism, a mechanism to strengthen people's renewal, their sense of spirituality.
01:00:35.760 And I'd love to find a way to show it to all these young people, this whole generation that seems to be very bewildered and confused, somewhat angry, very suspicious, and very open to sometimes some very outlandish theories, which really don't square with the facts.
01:00:55.240 A film like this can, I think, present things in a very sober light.
01:00:59.680 And also, remember, you know, I don't have a dog in this fight.
01:01:03.420 I'm not Jewish.
01:01:04.560 I'm not Israeli.
01:01:05.800 I'm coming at this very much from the point of view of America first.
01:01:09.520 And so I think the film carries a credibility that doesn't make people go, oh, well, you're just speaking for Israel.
01:01:15.980 Oh, well, Mossad is paying you.
01:01:17.680 Oh, well, you know, there's this kind of tendency to go there.
01:01:21.420 And I do want to say at the outset that I've, you know, Debbie and I, my wife, we've donated a lot of money to biblical archaeology in Israel.
01:01:28.300 So I want to clarify that they don't pay us.
01:01:31.440 We pay them.
01:01:33.280 There's a big difference, isn't there?
01:01:36.000 Oh, my gosh.
01:01:37.000 Well, that's good.
01:01:37.840 And there is no question that the timing of the Dragon's Prophecies theatrical release is on October 6th through 8th.
01:01:46.060 It's echoing the October 7th attacks.
01:01:48.980 Do you believe that these synchronized events, including Trump's pro-Israel policies, are divine signals, urging believers to become dragon slayers in the face of looming invasions?
01:02:01.700 You know, Trump is, Trump represents in a way the guy who, in some ways, I don't think thinks of himself as a biblical figure.
01:02:11.120 But he really is, because in my adult life, I used to revere these figures like Abraham, and I would think of them as models, paragons of virtue.
01:02:22.580 But as an adult, when I began to look at those stories, you begin to realize that all these guys are fairly dubious characters, right?
01:02:30.460 I mean, there, Abraham himself basically passes off his wife as his sister, you know.
01:02:36.120 Then you have Jacob pulling scams and trying to get more flocks for himself.
01:02:41.100 David's got his eye on Bathsheba and concocting a plan for how to get rid of her husband.
01:02:46.160 So, you know, the guy in Israel said something really funny to me.
01:02:50.020 He said, you know, if God was not in the Old Testament, you would think that the Old Testament was written by rank anti-Semites.
01:02:56.600 Because all these great, supposedly great figures are all fallen, they're flawed, they're up to shenanigans.
01:03:05.180 So the Bible is a very human story.
01:03:07.820 And I think Trump, in that sense, can very much be seen as a sort of instrument of God at a very critical time in world history and even in biblical history.
01:03:18.380 So whether or not Trump really sees it that way or recognizes it that way, I think he is a part of this great melodrama.
01:03:28.360 Oh, and he plays his part perfectly, I think.
01:03:31.460 I really do.
01:03:32.540 It keeps us all interested and on our toes, that's for sure.
01:03:36.120 Well, it's what keeps life interesting.
01:03:38.280 So how can we see this movie, Dinesh?
01:03:40.940 What can we do?
01:03:41.860 There's really one place to do it.
01:03:44.280 You can't go to the theater and buy the tickets there.
01:03:47.000 You have to get them from the website.
01:03:48.660 But definitely round up your family, round up your men's group or your Bible study or your church, and go to the website.
01:03:57.520 It's the Dragons, plural, thedragonsprophecyfilm.com.
01:04:02.140 You can buy theater tickets.
01:04:04.020 You can pre-order the DVDs.
01:04:06.140 You can sign up for streaming.
01:04:08.100 It's ultimately going to be on multiple platforms.
01:04:10.280 But right now it's available.
01:04:11.700 Salem is our partner.
01:04:12.920 And so it's streaming on Salem now.
01:04:15.220 Very easy to watch.
01:04:16.360 Just basically buy the streaming, click, and you'll be able to watch it on October 9th.
01:04:20.260 So October 6th and October 8th in the theater.
01:04:23.160 The very next day, October 9th, available for streaming.
01:04:27.280 DVDs landing in your mailbox.
01:04:29.040 Oh, fabulous.
01:04:30.260 Oh, well, thank you so much for joining us.
01:04:32.480 Do you have any other questions, Kat?
01:04:34.480 No, I just appreciate you coming.
01:04:35.560 We always love having you.
01:04:36.940 Love having you on this show.
01:04:38.160 Hey, it's always a pleasure, guys.
01:04:39.640 Thank you so much for making the time and delighted that you enjoyed the film.
01:04:45.280 We absolutely did.
01:04:46.960 I cannot wait to watch it again.
01:04:48.240 It was so good.
01:04:49.240 You know, a film like that has so much in it that you have to go back and watch it again
01:04:55.160 just to get every little piece.
01:04:57.260 So I plan on doing that again this weekend.
01:04:59.840 Thanks for joining us.
01:05:01.020 Have a great weekend.
01:05:02.080 And I cannot wait for people to go out to the theaters and watch The Dragon's Prophecy.
01:05:07.400 I'm going to go ahead and play the clip of the film so everybody can sit back and enjoy
01:05:11.940 it, see what they have to look forward to.
01:05:14.100 Here we go.
01:05:16.260 Then another sign appeared in heaven, an enormous red dragon, Revelation 12.3.
01:05:22.100 Oh, no!
01:05:22.600 Oh, no!
01:05:25.320 Oh, no!
01:05:29.240 Oh, no!
01:05:33.840 Once again, an armed attack in the Middle East.
01:05:36.760 But this time, it's different.
01:05:43.300 October 7th was The Devil's Humming.
01:05:49.600 It's very hard to believe what happened, even though I was there and seeing with my own
01:05:53.220 eyes and seeing them laughing and killing and having fun with it.
01:05:57.100 Because if you don't open the door, they are going to kill you and they are going to kill
01:06:01.520 me.
01:06:01.760 So please open the door.
01:06:02.820 Get up!
01:06:03.140 The Devil's Humming.
01:06:07.760 So who are the Jews?
01:06:09.680 Who are the Palestinians?
01:06:10.740 And whose land is it really?
01:06:13.740 Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?
01:06:22.620 The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation.
01:06:26.140 So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel?
01:06:34.060 The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy, attacking
01:06:39.480 a woman representing Israel.
01:06:41.980 The civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.
01:06:47.900 They mastered everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.
01:06:53.100 We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty, and we brought it back to life,
01:06:57.820 and we're going to keep it.
01:06:59.980 The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God.
01:07:05.740 Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.
01:07:09.500 If we're approaching the end of time, God will reveal himself more and more dramatically.
01:07:17.420 I speak back through the stones.
01:07:20.620 The story that Dave has been telling is that Israel is a colonial project.
01:07:24.620 The problem with that is the city of David.
01:07:27.420 An inconvenient truth.
01:07:29.340 Are you aware of any significant archaeological finding that contradicts the bible?
01:07:35.340 Nope.
01:07:35.660 God's word stands firm.
01:07:43.340 The dragon will not prevail.
01:07:48.560 Your message here is become a dragon slayer.
01:07:53.860 Based on Jonathan Cahn's number one international bestseller, The Dragon's Prophecy, this fall.
01:08:06.540 Well, I know what I'm going to be up to this weekend again on probably on Sunday
01:08:12.640 because I have tomorrow's show that I will be doing.
01:08:15.340 But make sure that you get your tickets in advance.
01:08:19.120 The Dragon's Prophecy exclusively in theaters October 6th and October 8th.
01:08:24.100 Tickets are only available at thedragonsprophecyfilm.com.
01:08:28.560 I have been dropping links into the chat room.
01:08:31.440 So all you have to do is just click on it and you can get right there.
01:08:35.460 It's a great movie.
01:08:37.240 Like I said, you're going to enjoy every single minute of it.
01:08:39.880 A lot of this stuff I did not know a whole bunch about.
01:08:43.200 Now I do.
01:08:44.700 So I hope to see you all tomorrow.
01:08:47.400 We've got a political rendezvous going on, which is going to be a lot of fun.
01:08:52.380 We've got, of course, 3 o'clock p.m. Eastern time.
01:08:55.620 And we will be discussing the turning point.
01:08:58.760 This is good.
01:08:59.560 From left to right.
01:09:02.220 Saturdays at 3 p.m. Eastern time, we're going to talk about how so many people are making
01:09:07.360 the decision to run, not walk, but run away from the Democrat Party.
01:09:13.280 The other thing that I have done is I have published our question of the day.
01:09:17.320 Curious to hear what your answers are.
01:09:19.920 I made it a tough one this week because there's so many of you that, especially after Erica
01:09:26.640 and what she had said about, you know, what happened with Charlie and the forgiveness.
01:09:32.500 I want to know, and you can just head on over.
01:09:35.340 I'm going to pull it on up here.
01:09:37.080 I want to know what you feel now after hearing what she had to say about forgiveness.
01:09:41.800 If found guilty, should Charlie Kirk's assassin face the death penalty?
01:09:49.340 Yes or no?
01:09:50.740 I would like to hear your thoughts.
01:09:52.540 You could be featured live this Saturday, September 27th during a political rendezvous
01:09:56.960 at 3 o'clock p.m. Eastern time.
01:09:59.460 You can pick your viewing platform at JulesJonesLive.com.
01:10:02.640 Again, you can watch it on our same channels.
01:10:06.840 In the Litterbach channels is the same as a political rendezvous.
01:10:10.500 We just combined the two.
01:10:11.800 So we have a show six days a week.
01:10:14.640 So we'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
01:10:16.820 If found guilty, should Charlie Kirk's assassin face the death penalty?
01:10:21.460 So head on over there and give me your answer and we'll go over them tomorrow.
01:10:27.180 And don't forget, Cat Turd has got Turd Stock on Sunday.
01:10:31.520 So I know a lot of you are in transit over to Turd Stock.
01:10:34.800 It's going to be a great event.
01:10:36.080 He's going to keep us posted on that.
01:10:37.680 So really, this week, it's going to be seven days with us.
01:10:40.940 Anyway, I hope you all have a wonderful rest of your day.
01:10:45.740 You all be safe.
01:10:47.040 Be kind to one another and we will see you later.
01:10:51.120 Bye.
01:10:51.600 Bye.
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01:11:18.920 Bye.
01:11:19.400 Bye.
01:11:19.440 Bye.
01:11:19.980 Thank you.
01:11:49.980 Thank you.