Dinesh D'Souza - Vindicating Trump ｜ In the Litter Box w⧸ Jewels & Catturd – Ep. 662 – 10⧸7⧸2024
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Jules and Cat Turd are joined by country music legend Dinesh D'Souza to talk about his new album "You're Richer than You Think" and his new movie, "Vindicating Trump."
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You are in the litter box with Jules and Cat Turd.
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I know, but did you just have a wonderful time or what?
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We appreciate the live streams, by the way, but I wish everybody could experience there.
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It's just, and they just had, I mean, Gretchen Wilson just came up there and blew the room
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And then we just had Shane Larson and just, it was good.
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And then here comes Angie Aparo with that voice.
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And then just, you know, Jeffrey Steele who just, I don't even know what planet that dude's
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He played our song, which we got a good response.
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I'll tell you one thing, you know, people love that song.
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I'm, I'm referring to it as the anthem we need right now during these times.
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You know, we got the 12th on the country music charts and it's still in the charts somewhere.
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And then it went to number one, the video went right to number one for a long time.
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It's amazing how fast everybody sings along and knows the words, you know, like two days
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When I said, okay, so this is going to replace for everyone eating the dogs, eating the cats.
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It's like, okay, we have a replacement coming for you all because that's what we have.
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We have a really great guest that's going to join us at the top of the second hour.
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We have Dinesh D'Souza, who is going to join us.
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Cannot wait to talk to him about all the different things that are going on.
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But Vindicating Trump, I watched the movie last night because I wanted to see it and it
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You all need to make sure that you get over there and you get your tickets because it's
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going to be in theaters for just another week and it's exciting stuff.
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And he also has a book that's coming out tomorrow.
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You can order now at Amazon, Barnes and Noble or from vindicatingtrump.com.
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It's what we have experienced and what we have gone through the last couple of years.
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And you could just get to see it through a different perspective.
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He's like a really reliable person that everything he puts out is great.
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So he's going to join us at the top of the hour and just cannot wait to hear what all
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he has to say about the making of the movie and everything else.
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I mean, he just, if he's going to do it, he's going to do it.
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There's just one thing after another happening.
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And they say, hey, yeah, it's only going to hit like 120, 125 at health.
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I mean, you don't know if it's going to come down.
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They're so wrong about everything they predict.
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And I know that we have got a whole bunch of litter mates that are out there that are evacuating,
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that are preparing, that are doing everything that they can to make sure that they can get
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out of the path because this thing is headed right for them.
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I've just, you know, if it hits at 120, I'm not saying, if it does get down to 120, that's,
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But believe me, I was in Michael, 160 mile an hour, sustained winds, not gusts, sustained
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There's a big difference when the wind gets that high when it's like 100.
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And I mean, it seems like it's five times more.
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But yeah, if it's going to hit us a five, I'd advise everybody just to go, be safe, get
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And they were at the, they had to kind of leave early.
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I mean, they watched the whole show, but they had to leave earlier than they wanted to up
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We got Fatty and, Fatty and Padrina or Folly and Alfie down there.
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They're right in the, I mean, it's right towards them.
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Prayers to all of you that are in the storm and, you know, in the surrounding areas that
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I mean, really, you can't, there's certain things that you can stand up to, bullies included.
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But this whole thing, natural disasters like this, no.
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There's an emergency evacuation in order, but, you know, it's really interesting.
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The second massive hurricane days away, FEMA is broke.
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Harris is appearing on The View and Howard Stern.
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She was also recording when all of those victims in North Carolina and otherwise, all the southern
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She's over there recording a podcast with Call Me Daddy.
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I mean, really, that's how bad she actually is.
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You've got all of these different crises that are happening.
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And this one, of course, Mark Levin put it out, you know, that Hurricane Milton could be
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the worst storm to hit Florida West Coast in 100 years as it strengthens to a horrific
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Not addressing all of the people that are underwater that have lost everything, including loved
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ones, families, businesses, homes, everything that they own.
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This is why you don't spend all the money on illegals because stuff like this happens.
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Oh, and, you know, they are sitting there trying so hard to deny that.
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But let me tell you, that's being debunked second to none.
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And I'm so glad people are actually talking about it.
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And the threat, like they always do, they don't do anything.
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And then the people that, like, you know, check them on COVID and the people who tell
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the truth about COVID or their election, then they try to get, you know, we're coming
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That damn governor's like, they all should be prosecuted for misinformation.
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No, you should be prosecuted because like 2,000 people are dead because you're a
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In fact, here is Corrine Jean-Pierre in 2024 versus what she said.
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To Biden, who we're never going to see again, who's going to end up in a basement somewhere
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And here's here's some of the things that Corrine Jean-Pierre has said.
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You've got what she said in 2022 versus what she's saying in 2024.
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No, Biden did not take FEMA relief money to use to use on migrants.
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Funding is also available through FEMA's emergency food and shelter program to eligible local governments
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and not for non-for-profit organizations upon request to support humanitarian relief for migrants.
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I mean, FEMA has abandoned devastated North Carolina town residents.
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Nobody's been bringing in supplies except civilians.
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This is after agency refuses to drive around road closed sign.
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I'm hearing horrible things like people are burying their loved ones in their front yards.
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She doesn't feel like she needs to address the country or anything else, even though on
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Call Me Daddy, she was basically saying in her interview that she had pretty much taken
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And she just gets dumber and dumber and dumber every day.
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And you don't even know what the hell she's talking about when she does talk.
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This is why you are starting to see so many people that are supporting President Trump.
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I mean, there is a groundswell like nobody's business.
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She can't defend her action or rather inaction.
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You get into a conversation with anybody and they just kind of stand down.
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You're just not very proud of what you've got over there.
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And that's what's so cool about Dinesh's movie is because he basically takes you back to show you how the whole thing started and how they ruled under this, you know, idea of fear.
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Let's go ahead and get everybody just scared to death of President Trump.
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What happens when you cheat and win an election and put people in there that can't do it?
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The lamestream media, they have completely lost their minds over the whole thing.
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Well, every rally he's doing right now is bringing a wave of patriots.
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But, you know, Sage at Sage Listener put up this video.
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If you want to kind of see just a few little highlights of what happened during the rally in Butler with Elon Musk, it was awesome.
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that's exactly what we're going to have a president again and i cannot wait the world
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needs it it's not just our country it's the world at this point the world and look who you get with
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them now you get elon you get robert jr you get uh tussie gabbard you get tucker carlson you get
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all these great minds people that actually want to help the country that actually believe in free
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speech and the constitution they're actually not just you know giving everything to illegals
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everything to ukraine and then they're actually tried to every day get up and help the american
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people which we don't have right now our government's rogue if the fbi cia irs now fema
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they're all they're all the enemies of us they they they do nothing but just you know try try to
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get us man it's the craziest thing they don't do nothing to help us nothing at all they're up
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there like oh we're here seven days later now everybody else is kicked out that actually did
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all the hard work when it was when it was time to do it y'all are kicked out now we're gonna go
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in the office over here and you know eat some little debbies and smoke some cigarettes while
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everybody's done there it's just ridiculous i mean here we've got if you want to know how bad it is
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okay here's how bad it is you've got msnbc which is what we like to call msdnc has a president trump
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named to them calls mslsd they're on something that's for sure they're going to need a lot more
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by the time this whole thing is over but they're calling elon musk the world's leading spreader of
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disinformation give me a break also not taking his appearance at the trump rally very well you've got to
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see this i mean you want to talk about full-blown they know it hurts them oh there's one reason
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it's driving them crazy because they know it hurts them i saw um i was in the motel room and i was
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watching a something um it might have been the weather channel i don't know and one of his uh
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her commercials come on and we don't you know uh trump's for the billionaires that don't pay their
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fair share then they showed a picture of elon oh my gosh isn't that he's got them man you have to
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enjoy the fact because there's a lot of things that are going to happen the lamestream media the
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regime media which is what we're so used to seeing right because obama basically orchestrated that when
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he started the smith-munt act right that's why you're seeing everybody in these fishbowls that
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are basically saying the exact same thing they've all received the memo and so there are a whole bunch
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of talking heads right so he did that on purpose when he was leaving office and they've used that to
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their advantage but now all of a sudden you've got all of these new platforms you've got all
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kinds of people that are tired of the script they want to hear people actually talk they want to hear
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about how they feel what they're doing what they're seeing you know what they want what they envision for
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this country you put a whole bunch of ideas together and then all of a sudden guess what brilliant
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you have an amazing conversation and that's what people have been wanting for a long time
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well they don't like this they don't like this listen to what this tool had to say and i will say
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that elon musk is perhaps the world's leading uh spreader of disinformation including outright lies
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about hurricane relief about illegal immigrants uh we've seen him do that in the last couple of weeks
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and then on saturday he steps on stage with donald trump with one of the one of the less athletic
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leaps i've ever seen uh as he bounded his way on stage with trump um tell us and then and then
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spoke briefly on the former president's behalf tell us about that moment and what sort of a you see
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yeah he did not does not have much of a vertical uh mr mr musk and i will say a less athletic leap
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he doesn't have much of a vertical let's say you jump dork
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i have never laughed so hard when i saw that clip i had to listen to it a couple more times
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it doesn't have a good vertical please are you kidding this is the left this is the left so now
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they're they're hurling personal they know they know if it didn't hurt them it wouldn't bother them
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that's right they wouldn't be going after him this hard if it wasn't hurting them they're only
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going after him this hard because it's kid it's destroying them he's a he owns x he's got 200
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million followers oh my gosh 200 million well and he's changing the conversation he is using that
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platform so that we can have a conversation and that we don't have a scripted one propaganda news
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media is on its way out it is literally dying on the vine and people know it and i think it's wonderful
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this is what we've always wanted i mean we can start basically aging ourselves at this point cat
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we can say we remember twitter when it was the way it was yeah because they kicked off all
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conservative voices the changes he's made though besides just the freedom of speech which is huge
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just from the ad shares of the spaces to the every the blue check marks he got rid of the snob blue
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check mark people right and i mean here here i was sitting there with millions of views and then some
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reporter has got 15 followers from you know uh some obscure station in in borough alaska gets a blue
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check mark i know and he's just like it wasn't fair man you know and he just let everybody buy them
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and then it's just uh the now they got ai on there and then they got their their analytics are awesome
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and it just there's so many features there's no features they they he opened up twitter and it
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literally didn't change for like 10 years they didn't have no vision man they had no way to change
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it to better and sometimes he makes a mistake and we all get kind of man it's man stop doing that
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but he you know they're trying new stuff and it and it's and it's the whole platform's changed beyond
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words it's so true and and the thing about it is is that he listens to you when you put something out
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that you're not happy about he's taking that in he is you are actually able to talk to some of the
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greatest minds in the world thanks to this platform from all over the world and and not so
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you know great minds as well we have our we have our little outs with uh i hate it because i was
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traveling that day but you know of course i i've watched the videos of it and i got it taped when i
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get back home so oh it's amazing but um man that's just him and that elon i i knew it when i saw it
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i see in the picture i was going boy it's gonna get them oh it's got them all right it's gonna send
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them over the top they're over the edge and not only that this whole administration that they're
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not going to be a part of this new one that's coming in with all of the people a whole bunch
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of people that were indies or independents or democrats it's how they used to vote they have
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now come over to our side and you're starting to see a lot of our side that aren't as extreme in
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their views that are coming towards the center it's really interesting to see exactly what's
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happening we are having and we are getting a whole new party as a result of all of this
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and it is going to be a whole new world before you know it because when you have president trump
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for four years and then a possibility of jd vance for eight we can correct all of the wrongs i mean we
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really can and that's if jd decides that's what he wants to do but there are also many other people
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that are emerging so you know people really are doing everything that they can to put it out there
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and and to change this party and to change this country for the better that debate was kind of
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jd vance's really for real introductory to the world even even for me man and i was impressed he's
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fantastic i knew he was going to bring it that was his time to shine and he did an amazing amazing
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tampon tampon tim was over there was mouth open he didn't know what to say well it still is over
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they're sweating bullets well it still is he hasn't gotten over it i mean he is just scuttlebugging
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around they did an snl they did an snl skit about it's a terrible debate it well i can't believe you
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it was just he just you know absolutely wiped this now dog out a democrat it has to be really bad
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something they did well all of it's really bad i mean here you've got smashed mouth marxism you've
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got kamala harris who was bragging online about sending 157 million to lebanon as southeast u.s
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suffers through the historic flooding and fema admits it blew money on illegals i mean they're
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sitting there they have absolutely no idea what's going on in this country they are much more concerned
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about what's going on in the rest of the world rather than taking care of their own country here at
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home they're so out of touch they're so out of touch and they think these little like you know
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go somewhere and talk for five minutes and no question that's like really helping the community
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you know and giving them 700 that's not doing anything and they know it yes exactly who you
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gonna believe these these lying slugs are all these videos of locals actually there man just normal
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people talking about it i believe the regular average citizens big time well that's exactly it
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every single time the people that have been affected and that's why you're starting to see
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all these endorsements you've got that's why they hate x oh yeah they can't they can normally go in
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there and control the whole situation i mean you know i'm starting to believe that's all they do
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that's why why they even have these things is not to help to go in there and control the narrative
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wow and before you know you say anything like this they just kick you off twitter and they already
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and they still zuckerberg comes out there and acts like he's gonna be a republican and he's still
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kicking everybody off for everything in the sun no matter what you say on instagram
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you got that right it is the law every time i mean it's just it's gotten to be so obvious
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and you're you're gonna see them i mean you already see zuckerberg trying to like i mean he's being
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coached by a conservative on how conservatives will be able to you know like him again it's not going
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to work quit censoring us start that way right i mean quit with the propaganda mark quit trying to
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steal elections mark you should be investigated i mean seriously he interfered in our elections and
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misinformation we were we were streaming on gaming programs that's just really sad that's how bad it
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got so he's like look we almost had a thought sending smoke signals out building the fire it's
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pathetic carrier pigeons ridiculous so real quick just so everybody knows dinesh d'souza is going to
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join us today and this is going to be awesome i mean it truly is but i want to give you a little idea
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of what vindicating trump is all about so i'm going to play the trailer so you can go ahead
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somebody has to help this country and if they don't the country and the world are in big trouble
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someone's got to overturn the tables in the temple trump jumping into the presidential race
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they fear that power you didn't do an insurrection had you called for one there would have been one
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and there would be one if you called for one now i'm not sure i want that power i want the power just
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to make the country better america first and that scares them a lot about donald trump scares them
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let's look at everything campaign his family let's get foreign eyes on him
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we have one target you know who he is going after their companies their families that is a dictator
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it's a very dangerous time for our country the goal is to put him in jail because they're so afraid of
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his voice i am your voice i am so deep in legal it'll bankrupt them broke down in jail right before
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the election that's hard for being that guy but isn't that election interference it's not
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interference if we do it we just want a free and fair election sounds expensive ballots ain't cheap
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wait wait wait did you actually say the word buy the ballots we were able to purchase 10 000 ballots
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that's terrifying they cheat in many different ways that's all they're good at
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they save democracy we need to stop him permanently and that person will be risking his life
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it's the win you survived and i said get me up trump has beaten back every attack against him
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it's like the damn termini we're gonna fix our borders and we're gonna fix our elections
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we're gonna win this is my legacy vindicating trump the best is yet to come
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you bet it is so excited to make sure to just so everybody knows dinesh is joining us and it looks
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like i've got dinesh on with us right now hey dinesh how are you sir i'm doing great good to join
00:30:39.920
love good to see you again hey it's a pleasure loved your movie absolutely incredible
00:30:47.280
well it's you know it's such a critical election trump is this giant figure but in some ways
00:30:55.920
i think he's a he's a puzzling or enigmatic figure and i say that because the same guy inspires such
00:31:03.700
loyalty on the one side and such hatred on the other one group of people will take a bullet for him and
00:31:09.580
one group of people will cheer if only silently if someone tries to put a bullet in him
00:31:14.920
and i'm like i don't know anybody in my lifetime who has provoked this kind of radically opposite
00:31:21.920
reaction so i try very hard both in the movie and an accompanying book both called vindicating trump
00:31:28.140
to explain trump who is this guy what does he really represent and why is it that the left has
00:31:35.320
focused it's not only it's hatred but it's desperate desire to get rid of him only on this one man
00:31:41.780
it's unreal i i mean what he's it's um it's unbelievable to hate and and and i know there's
00:31:48.380
people like rob reiner and and and people like that and and and that own x and they're spending
00:31:53.960
their they're in their 70s and they're spending their last years of their life 24 hours a day
00:31:58.820
365 days a year completely obsessed with one guy waking up and that's that's the end of your life
00:32:05.380
that's all you did it's crazy to me especially it's crazier further when you consider that trump
00:32:12.060
politically is right of center but only moderately so and so the hatred of trump is not even i don't
00:32:20.720
believe about his policies you know if you go back to lincoln there was a big division about lincoln's
00:32:25.020
policies and a lot of the division was over that but with regard to trump it's entirely over the man
00:32:31.780
and then as you know there are even some republicans and i've heard a few of these
00:32:35.920
they'll grumble well you know i don't really like the guy but you know i like what he did when he was
00:32:40.900
president or he needs to keep his mouth shut so you've got these republicans who are trying to
00:32:46.720
somehow reform or rehabilitate trump they want to like remake trump in their own image and part of
00:32:53.140
what i want to say in this film and in the book is you don't need to do that we don't need to remake
00:32:57.380
trump in fact let's remake your understanding of trump because if you look at the crisis in which
00:33:02.760
the country finds itself now this guy is perfectly suited uh to assume leadership and and get us out
00:33:10.420
of this mess boy i'd say who else could do it besides him i don't know anybody no no i mean go ahead
00:33:19.160
well people will focus on trump's vices they go well you know he's a playboy and i go are you saying
00:33:25.480
he's a playboy now no uh at the the worst you can say about him is he's a reformed playboy not really
00:33:31.660
the worst thing in the world to be uh well he's an egomaniac well really if you were attacked every
00:33:37.280
moment of every day wouldn't you need a big ego to just survive to prevent for yourself from crumbling
00:33:43.480
uh to pieces and trump has the great political virtue of courage i mean we saw it not just with the
00:33:51.920
two assassination attempts where his response was absolutely like in a class of his own unique
00:33:56.820
nobody else would react that way but even in the way he's handled these 91 criminal charges
00:34:02.180
i mean as you guys know any republican facing like two criminal charges would have exited the race and
00:34:08.300
fled the field and so trump shows not only a bravery but a kind of a resourcefulness he's got the
00:34:13.920
amazing legal rope a dope so that none of these cases have really got to him and here he's going
00:34:19.300
strong into the final lap toward the election and uh uh he i don't even know what to say about him
00:34:27.520
anymore but there's just i don't know if anybody can go through this i mean every conviction i mean
00:34:32.980
they get him up there you know and and they say his property's worth 25 million it's worth you know
00:34:37.980
closer to a billion than it is 25 million and i just don't know anybody that could take this and he
00:34:42.920
just keeps taking and he never backs down i mean i there's no way i could take what he's taken so far
00:34:48.380
admitted well especially when you consider the alternative i mean let's say you know that you
00:34:53.480
and i or all of us were billionaires we have like seven to ten years of our life left we've got our
00:34:59.640
grandchildren our family we have mar-a-lago and trump knows that if he were to quit all of this stuff
00:35:06.300
would evaporate all of it would go away so think how tempting that is and so the only motive i can think
00:35:12.580
of is that this guy is doing it because he believes deep down that not only is the country in a terrible
00:35:19.540
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00:35:25.320
completely agree he's the only one that would win
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you know i mean really he's the only he's the only candidate that would win at this point
00:36:31.040
at some point too they're going after him so hard and it's so ridiculous that it starts turning people
00:36:36.340
back towards him he becomes like this you know martyr sympathetic character i think that happens a lot
00:36:41.680
well i think what happens is that when you have the two assassination attempts trump spontaneously
00:36:48.260
displays his character and think about it with both assassination attempts nothing
00:36:52.860
trump did could have been in any way planned or rehearsed nobody wrote a script for him
00:36:57.180
i mean just look at the second attempt for a moment trump is annoyed
00:37:00.580
genuinely annoyed that they pull him off the golf course because he's just about to make it a basic
00:37:05.500
shot uh and he's like he doesn't know if he'll be in the same form if he comes back like later
00:37:10.040
you know and then he goes on social media and he puts out he tweets zero for two i mean who would
00:37:15.920
do that that's almost like haunting the would-be assassin community hey guys go back to the firing
00:37:21.280
range you losers i mean think of it no one else would even think like that so trump is just very
00:37:28.820
unique and i think by contrast with trump and jd vance who are very authentic and and both represent
00:37:34.020
the american dream in different ways you have you know kamala harris and waltz and these two are like
00:37:39.740
major fakes bumming idiots yeah and they're they're obviously putting it on i mean they're
00:37:45.720
you look at waltz and his reactions are so over the top that it's almost like this guy's a cartoon
00:37:51.380
character in some you know in some movie and look who you get now uh look who you get now with them
00:37:57.940
you get elon musk you get robert candy jr you get tubby gashen you get all these people that are
00:38:04.160
actually trying to help the country i mean these people really want to help the average people like
00:38:09.320
us in the country they're not and and look what's happening with elon now that he's like he's full
00:38:14.880
throated trump they're going to give him the same treatment yeah now the reason for the film uh
00:38:20.640
vindicating trump by the way it's still in theaters it'll later be available in other formats streaming
00:38:25.040
dvd etc uh and the book comes out tomorrow it's uh it's just about to to come out but what the movie
00:38:31.940
does is it um it makes the case for trump by showing trump up close you know there's a kind
00:38:39.080
of a private dimension of trump that is often not seen in public i think i was able to bring a large
00:38:44.200
part of that out in this conversation with trump and so it's one thing for me to go on and tell
00:38:49.260
people trump is like this or trump is like that but for them to see it themselves is very eye-opening
00:38:54.900
and so my particular challenge is to make sure that this movie is seen by tens of millions of people
00:38:59.980
including a lot of you know middle of the rotors undecideds independents those are the guys whose
00:39:04.640
whose minds are not made up i have a question because i've seen the dr phil interview and he
00:39:12.660
president trump often defaults to projecting his well-known business persona i mean during his
00:39:19.160
interview with dr phil there was an attempt to reveal a more personal human side of him were you
00:39:25.340
able to break through that barrier and capture a more caring sensitive side of trump that the public
00:39:30.700
rarely sees how did you manage to achieve that deeper more personal portrayal i think with trump
00:39:38.280
the key is not to frame things in terms of his feelings he has a manly manly resistance yes to
00:39:46.300
discussing his feelings and dr phil was doing the sort of psychology thing well how did you feel after
00:39:52.280
the assassination attempt trump will always run away from a question like that he focuses on this
00:39:57.320
is what i did so he he'll describe what he did he doesn't like to do the sort of introspection um which
00:40:04.520
is the mark of a psychologist or an intellectual more generally so the way i would try to get at that
00:40:09.640
would be a different way i would ask trump something like this i said hey um you know um they say you
00:40:17.240
called for an insurrection now as far as i can see you didn't actually do that you didn't tell people
00:40:22.040
go in the capitol take over the place stop the count none of that but guess what had you called
00:40:28.680
for an insurrection on january 6th there would have been one a real one and there would be one if
00:40:33.800
you called for one now and i can't think of anybody else in america who has that kind of power
00:40:38.200
i mean if kamala harris called for an insurrection nobody would show up uh and that's also true of any other
00:40:43.560
republican so you know do you how how do you cope with having this kind of power and what you intend
00:40:50.360
to do with it notice that this is not ostensibly a personal question it's a kind of a public question
00:40:56.920
but you get to see the tumblers of trump's mind working he's like trying to make sense of it he's
00:41:02.280
trying to you know and he agrees he agrees that he has this kind of power and he goes on to comment
00:41:08.440
about why he wants it and what he's going to do with it and it's very interesting because i can
00:41:13.560
say safely bet i've never heard anyone else ask him that question before it is really true i mean i
00:41:19.960
was watching some of the back and forth and the way you approached it and approached him some of
00:41:25.480
these subjects and you would say you know i know that's not what you were calling for if you wanted
00:41:30.920
to you certainly could have but he didn't he did not want that to be the end result and so you got
00:41:37.400
to see that side of him i mean he is he's very alpha he's about as alpha as you think yeah another
00:41:45.640
question i asked him was i said you know at uh in his 20s abraham lincoln gave a famous speech called
00:41:50.920
the lyceum speech and lincoln predicted that if america was ever destroyed it would not come from abroad
00:41:56.440
it would come from within but from where i said lincoln said that there will be widespread lawlessness
00:42:02.120
in society and then a figure will arise kind of like a caesar or a napoleon who will manipulate that
00:42:09.080
lawlessness to subvert the republic and i said the left goes oh yeah of course lincoln was correct here
00:42:14.840
we are it's trump he's the caesar that we've been warning you against he's the caesar that lincoln
00:42:19.720
prophesied what do you think about that and again you know here's trump and he's it's putting
00:42:25.880
it's framing a question in a kind of historical perspective yet it's describing a threat that's
00:42:31.000
very real today i mean i don't know of a previous period in american history when the threat of
00:42:37.000
genuine tyranny is so real and of course one of the themes i wanted to develop in the film is yes there
00:42:42.840
is a tyrannical threat but no it's not coming from trump it's really coming from the other side but i
00:42:48.280
wanted trump to reflect on this and you can again see him making sense of it uh we talk about like what
00:42:54.600
dictatorial things did you do when you were in office did you your crowd sometimes called you
00:42:59.320
know lock her up lock her up but you didn't lock her up well why not so all of this is in the film
00:43:04.600
and i think it's um it's eye-opening for any american to see it because it's it shows trump
00:43:10.360
not that i'm trying to give you a different trump i'm just trying to round out the picture well i think
00:43:14.280
that's really good to kind of soften the edges because you've got a left a left stream media that is
00:43:20.760
non-stop trying to demonize him and so to show a different perspective is something that other
00:43:27.000
people are just starting to see i mean now that you've had two assassination attempts and you see
00:43:33.320
exactly how he handled it you see how he's treating the hurricane victims you see how he
00:43:38.760
dealt with trying to gain and get peace in the middle east you're starting to see the leader
00:43:44.760
for who he is his substance which is what i think most people are trying to to figure out that are
00:43:51.320
new to the party and i mean new to the party because you have so many people from the left
00:43:55.640
that are now saying okay wow can't be so bad if you've got elon musk if you've got jd vance if you've
00:44:02.040
got of course tulsi gabbard and some of the others that are now saying hey i want to be part of this
00:44:07.240
this is big this is big and i want to see what this is about it it was huge when robert kennedy jr
00:44:14.920
dropped out of the race and supported him too i i didn't even see it coming i usually can see things
00:44:19.000
coming i didn't even see that no that and the and elon musk i think are two of the huge decisive
00:44:24.920
factors i mean he saw elon musk at the butler rally i mean he was like a kid jumping up and down amazing
00:44:30.680
uh unbelievable the interesting thing about all this is that this is not an election that should be even
00:44:36.200
close right i mean you've got an outstanding larger than life courageous figure on the one
00:44:41.400
hand a complete buffoon on the other but just we're not beginning to give up on the iq of the american
00:44:46.840
people i've got to remind myself that for all the people who are in the middle the undecideds if you
00:44:51.640
will they have very little really no exposure to conservative media and all they get is bombarded
00:45:00.040
24 7 the propaganda the coordinated propaganda of the left so it is you can't in a way blame them
00:45:08.040
too much because this is all they hear and and i think that's what's keeping even the democrats alive
00:45:14.040
in this race is the is the sort of gross intervention of a propagandistic media so that was that your idea
00:45:23.080
when you were putting together this particular movie that you wanted to basically take us back
00:45:28.520
through it all to kind of remind everybody what has happened since the very beginning okay we're not
00:45:34.760
going to take this guy the apprentice guy seriously right i mean that's that was it it was kind of out
00:45:40.200
of the blue and then all of a sudden one by one he started going through all of the candidates and then
00:45:45.240
he was faced with hillary clinton and then when he really had some great zingers with her exposing her
00:45:51.240
lock her up i almost feel like that gave them the idea well let's lock him up then we won't have to
00:45:56.520
deal with him again but you did you were so clever in how you recreated that for everybody well a lot of
00:46:03.880
people wonder you know when when trump is in a new york courtroom and he 34 times they repeat the word
00:46:10.600
guilty right uh these are the felony convictions in alvin bragg's a courtroom like what is the reaction
00:46:16.680
at cnn or at the new york times so those guys watching this with repertorial like
00:46:20.840
equanimity yes we have to cover this tomorrow no it or are they like high-fiving each other jake
00:46:26.600
tapper you did an amazing job no you deserve the credit you know what's going on inside of the r
00:46:32.440
the dnc inside the media inside the intelligence agency so you know we imaginatively recreate these
00:46:39.640
things and it also makes our film more of a docudrama and not just a kind of standard documentary the
00:46:46.280
other thing i want to mention is that a movie is an end run around not only the media but around
00:46:51.400
digital censorship because they can they can repress you on youtube or google or facebook but you can't
00:46:57.800
stop people going to the theater and so that's why i think it is a it is a new megaphone a new medium if
00:47:03.800
you will for us to communicate and a movie is a powerful form of communications because it appeals
00:47:09.320
both to the head and to the heart so the movie is still in theaters it won't be in theaters very much
00:47:13.880
longer because this is already the toward the end of the second week so if you i make him for the
00:47:19.080
theater so if you can see him in the theater do that and our website by the way vindicatingtrump.com
00:47:24.120
if you plug in your city it'll pop up the uh theaters where it's playing or your town
00:47:28.920
and uh and then the book uh coming out this week uh vindicating trump which makes the case in a very
00:47:34.440
different way uh it's just and i'd like to say too dines is one of the people that's all it's
00:47:39.400
an automatic home run every time he does something he's one of them rare people that if if he if he
00:47:44.200
does something i want to see it you know and it's always good never misses always spot on well movies
00:47:50.680
you know the thing i've learned over eight movies and i figured this out you know along the way is you
00:47:56.280
cannot make a movie to do quote messaging and people are always telling me to do that do a movie on the
00:48:01.400
border and as we need to do some messaging you have to make a movie entertaining emotional it has to have
00:48:07.960
narrative in fact a good documentary film will have a lot of the same features as a good feature
00:48:12.840
film it'll have character plot suspense climax a musical kind of score that that is the emotional
00:48:21.400
register of the movie so i pay a lot of attention to those aspects of the movie and if you make
00:48:26.840
an engaging entertaining movie with a great story then you can do a lot of messaging inside of that
00:48:32.200
and i think that's the key to making a film successful that's true there are so many one-liners like
00:48:37.240
you know it's only against the law if we're not the ones doing it i didn't i didn't say it exactly
00:48:42.280
the way you came out with that particular line but there's certain there were certain statements
00:48:46.920
in that movie that will stay with me the one-liners where i'm like absolutely spot on that's how
00:48:53.480
washington d sleaze as i like to call them works i mean as long as they're in charge they're not
00:48:59.480
breaking any rules as long as they're handling the whole thing who's ever going to call them on it
00:49:04.440
and that's really exposed here i mean we know about the china connection with joe biden we
00:49:09.400
know about hunter biden we know how they've been selling access i mean it's common knowledge but if
00:49:14.600
they do it nobody touches them because that's the old establishment there is no accountability and i
00:49:21.560
think part of what we've learned and and this is this did not happen under the in the reagan years
00:49:26.040
it's happened only under trump is we recognize that there is this fetid swamp this kind of watering hole
00:49:32.520
and all the best spots of the watering hole are occupied by the democrats right but they do allow
00:49:38.440
some smaller spots at the swamp for some republicans and so republicans too have sort of a vested interest
00:49:45.560
in this in protecting that swamp and so here comes trump i'm gonna drain it you know and just by saying
00:49:51.240
that he threatens the establishment republican and democrat and so he's exposed a much deeper problem
00:49:59.560
than we thought we had and even trump i think was surprised i mean he knew the media was left-wing
00:50:04.120
i think he knew that hollywood was left-wing academia i don't think he knew the fbi was left-wing
00:50:09.160
or the cia or the military or the guys in the white coats the cdc the nih so trump's first term exposed that
00:50:18.040
the rot and the corruption go much deeper than we had previously suspected and i'm so glad they've
00:50:24.120
revealed themselves i mean if you were to look at things right now okay with a with a trump win
00:50:30.680
which we're all anticipating i mean we're not acting like that now we're acting like we're losing
00:50:35.560
by a landslide because we want to make sure that everybody is able to get out there and vote and bring
00:50:39.800
10 20 people with you when you go we know what we're up against but what do you think is going to
00:50:45.640
happen when he does take office what do you expect to see first well i do think that there will be a
00:50:54.200
last-ditch effort to cheat now they can't cheat in quite the same way that we described in 2000 mules
00:50:59.800
because if they send meals in the middle of the night with backpacks and latex gloves there'll be
00:51:04.680
patriots waiting for them at the drop boxes that's not going to work in the film we do we do expose a new
00:51:10.600
form of cheating the section is called the ballot makers and you just have to see it too
00:51:15.000
you'll you'll really be find it pretty mind-blowing but again my purpose in revealing it is not to
00:51:20.200
obviously educate the thieves but to blow their cover beforehand so it's more difficult for them
00:51:25.400
to pull this stuff off i agree that if trump wins and i think he will win the left will go berserk
00:51:32.840
they will have used all their power against him i mean they were convinced that the shotgun blast of
00:51:38.040
90 when criminal charges would have already put him flat on his back so they're now in the desperation
00:51:43.480
mode and they will they will go they will go out of control over the next four years so it's not
00:51:49.960
going to be it's going to be a rocky four years but i think it's going to be a necessary rockiness
00:51:55.480
for us to be able to get to a better place after that well what i what kind of scares me is when i hear
00:52:01.080
them asking president trump and asking jd vance as well will this be a peaceful transfer which lets me
00:52:08.600
know immediately that they are not going to allow this to be a tran and a peaceful transfer i mean
00:52:15.880
that's their first tell whatever they start accusing president trump of doing they are going to be guilty
00:52:22.440
of themselves so do i think that this is going to be a peaceful transfer of power absolutely 100
00:52:29.080
percent not they're not going to just send you know a podesta out there to give a concession speech
00:52:36.120
or whoever it is on kamala's team to do that the night of the election in fact they've said we will
00:52:42.440
not know the results for several weeks we've heard that being floated as well but do i think that this is
00:52:48.200
going to be a peaceful transfer no since they're asking president trump and jd vance those questions i do
00:52:54.520
not what do you anticipate in that type of a situation well i think they they are going to
00:53:03.320
nothing is beneath them at this point uh in fact i i think that even if you look at the two
00:53:09.560
assassination attempts there are so many bizarre unanswered questions regarding both of those now
00:53:14.840
i'm not dumb enough to suggest that they coordinated an assassination attempt because quite frankly if they
00:53:20.040
did they're not going to pick 20 year old thomas crooks to do it but it is not out of the question
00:53:25.160
that in the first assassination attempt there are people high up in the government or the secret
00:53:29.400
service or one of the intelligence agencies that basically goes we know that there are these kooks
00:53:33.880
out there we know that there's this one kook who's looking for a a roof and we're just going to leave that
00:53:38.920
roof kind of we're going to look the other way you know i would never think like this 10 years ago or
00:53:44.760
20 years ago i would consider this to be a you know a very unhinged way of thinking but i think
00:53:51.080
what's happened with these institutions you know the the nih the cdc the cia the fbi and now we have
00:53:57.960
to add fema is that they have earned our distrust we are rightly and reasonably distrustful of them
00:54:04.360
because they have proven that they can't be trusted boy i would say so how in the world do we get to see
00:54:11.720
this movie while it is still going on in theaters we can go straight to the website vindicatingtrump.com
00:54:18.600
is that correct yes vindicatingtrump.com plug in your town or city it'll pop up the theaters now
00:54:24.520
we started out in about 800 theaters 850 theaters we're down to a few hundred theaters so
00:54:29.480
it may not be playing in your in your region in which case relax don't worry about it it's going
00:54:34.040
to be available in streaming it's going to be available in dvd so you can actually pre-order dvds
00:54:39.320
right now same website vindicatingtrump.com and you can also order the book which is out tomorrow so
00:54:44.840
you'll get it immediately um on the same site oh this is fantastic see you can buy your tickets right
00:54:50.600
here you can buy the dvd it's all set up for you you can watch the trailer and these are some of the
00:54:56.680
statements and i i loved some of the clips of your interview with president trump those were fantastic
00:55:03.240
and the way you approached this whole thing just amazing stuff and then the book is out tomorrow
00:55:09.640
the book is out tomorrow yeah the book is you know books and movies are different the book is a little
00:55:13.640
bit more of a legal brief it's an argument it has all the references and you can put more information
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in a book than you can in a film so the two i i generally release a book and a movie kind of side
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by side it's my one-two punch the book appealing really more to a more sort of cerebral audience that
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wants the full picture wants it all laid out systematically intellectually the movie is a
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kind of an exciting fast-paced narrative and i think i think both work in their own way oh boy this
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this movie absolutely works i don't know how you find the time between your podcast and and all of
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your postings and all the different things that you do a movie and a book and everything else thank you
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so much for joining us do you have any parting words for the littermates today well just one thought
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about the democrats you know i think that they have stopped functioning as a normal political
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party they now function as a regime and here's what i mean um it's quite clear that with biden
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they told him you don't need a primary we're going to move you to the front uh you're going to be the
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face of the party but we're going to be telling you what to do you're in the canoe but you're not
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driving the canoe and frankly if we tell you to go you have to be ready to leave and i think kamala
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harris has come in on the same deal no primary for you we're going to move you to the front but
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you're going to be our pawn and quite frankly if we tire of you of you become inconvenient we
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reserve the right to move you out and you will go with a smile so think of how scary this is we have
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a junta running the country right now whose names we can guess at but we don't really know and the
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democrats are offering us four more years of the same yes it's beyond the pell of any common sense
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how anybody can vote for this lady i just don't get it it it doesn't make any sense and in fact
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i think there's an effort underway on the part of the media to tell people don't believe your lying
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eyes don't believe your pocketbook don't believe the the crime in your city or town don't believe
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the the hordes of people rushing across the border don't believe the babbling idiot that you've seen
00:57:13.320
kamala harris believe the smoke and mirrors image of this new and improved kamala that we have for you
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i mean it it has it it is based upon such a low estimation of the intelligence of the american
00:57:26.200
people the democrats are counting on people to be complete suckers they really are i mean and yet
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they're sitting over there screaming democracy and i'm going you haven't had democracy over there in
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your party in years i mean we remember what happened with bernie sanders you don't need you don't even
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vote you don't even vote for your candidates in the primary anymore everybody dropped out with biden
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just simultaneously so you didn't get a vote then and you didn't have a vote this time
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totally no i mean hey even in police states around the world we do know who the leader is
00:58:00.120
right g is running china putin's running russia we know who's running cuba we know who's running iran
00:58:06.120
we do not even know who's running the united states or has been for the past four years
00:58:10.920
thank you we've been captured that's how it feels it feels like our entire government has been
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captured and that it's completely rogue and i was so glad when president trump started calling that out
00:58:22.120
who's running the country who's running the country because nobody knows we know it's not biden biden
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can't even stand up for very long he shuffles he doesn't walk he doesn't know where he is half the
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time he's constantly looking to the right or the left and now that you know dr jill or whatever you want to
00:58:38.440
call her babysitter jill has ditched him and he's on his own he's just you know kind of wandering
00:58:44.280
around like an empty vessel it's wild it's crazy and then look at biden as a kind of you know his
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image that he projects around the world is that america is basically getting around on a walker
00:58:58.120
so he makes the whole country look feeble demented lethargic and so on and of course the actions of the
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administration the incompetence of the secret service the incompetence of fema i think there's
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a malevolence behind all this incompetence i think that in almost every case you can find
00:59:17.240
some form of election interference in pretty much everything the democrats do you just have to look
00:59:22.760
hard enough oh truly i mean you you can only imagine what president trump is going to actually
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inherit when he gets back into the oval office we're staring at world war three we're looking at open
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borders we're going to have to deport all of these illegal criminal aliens that are in our country
00:59:40.200
and everything else i mean they are handing him at just a whole sack of you know and saying okay well
00:59:46.680
you want to be in charge here fix it he's going to spend a lot of time going through all of that but
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if anybody if there ever was anybody that could fix it it's definitely him he made it look easy the
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first time i think also he needs to bring in people who have a certain maniacal devotion to
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cleaning up these agencies it's not just a matter of replacing the guy at the top they've set up a
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a corrupt set of incentives that goes all the way down so for example the ordinary fbi agent who may not
01:00:15.320
be all that political is basically told hey listen you want a promotion you want a bonus you want a
01:00:20.440
commendation go find and arrest some new january 6 guys don't worry about the child trafficking going on at the
01:00:26.360
border this is the high priority assignment and that's how you get your so they've they've corrupted
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the the bureaucratic uh carrots and sticks all the way down and so there needs to be somebody who goes
01:00:37.560
in with a blow torch and like absolutely cleans out these agencies from the bottom up oh i totally agree
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well what can we do to help spread the word on your movie what can we do with the litter mates that are
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listening in the audience how can we get them to start sharing this and where to share it and everything
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else yeah i think the best thing is just to uh just to talk about it if you've seen the film post
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about it and share about it the the website is kind of the one-stop-shop boat to follow the theatrical
01:01:03.960
release of the movie and then later other ways to to get it uh there's a short kind of runway here
01:01:09.640
through through november 5th uh and i'm going to do my best to help get this message out as widely as i can
01:01:16.280
movies you know they're persuasive in a different way they're more powerful than a campaign commercial or
01:01:21.480
normal types of political messaging in part because when somebody's watching a campaign commercial
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they're sort of first of all they've seen it a hundred times second of all they're kind of on
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their guard it's like somebody has an agenda they're trying to sell me on something but a movie just
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draws you in it's entertaining it's fun you can watch it with your family and so it has a persuasive
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impact that's more subtle and yet in many ways more lasting oh it's just an awesome movie i'm serious
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it was so great to see it and just kind of sit back and have the story told instead of experienced
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because we've been experiencing this for the last couple of years and it's really been awful i cannot
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wait until we start functioning as a constitutional republic again instead of a banana republic it's
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just gotten out of control thank you dinesh for hanging out with us today and thank you for doing
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this movie always always welcome here buddy thank you so much it's been fun thanks for having me
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thank you all right guys all right bye okay so this is how you do it you can head on over to
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vindicatingtrump.com and you can watch this movie i watched it last night and just enjoyed it immensely
01:02:28.200
incredible and these clips and i'll play them on our show just so you can see them and you can see the
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exchange between dinesh and the way he and he asked president trump the questions i thought that
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was really interesting because he he went about the questions in a way that you got to see a
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different side of trump aside that the left tries to pretend doesn't exist but really got to the bottom
01:02:51.400
line and got to the point it is fantastic it's a great watch hopefully you all will get over there
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and see vindicating trump just visit vindicatingtrump.com and you'll have all of the information here you can
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you can also buy the the dvd and everything else all of his movies are good they're really good
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but we also need you out there getting the vote out and a lot for today at least there's a lot of uh
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states that you know this is the last day to register to vote so make sure that you are going
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ahead and getting the message out as far as that's concerned there are quite a few states that are still
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out there you've got arizona arkansas florida georgia indiana kentucky louisiana mississippi montana
01:03:38.600
ohio tennessee texas it is the last day to register to vote so make sure that everybody gets out there
01:03:49.880
grab a friend help them out let them know how they can register because this is the most important election
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of our lifetime cat is there anything else you would like to add after your no experience this weekend
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yeah just i'm keeping the guard up so everybody so everybody knows the tornado is actually not
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heading toward me i'll probably get some tropical storm stuff but if it hits where it's going to hit
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it's not going to affect me that much wow it's going to affect i'll keep it i am you know wednesday
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we'll see how it's going i may or may not be here wednesday so we'll see we'll see but then
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also let's not forget rumble's home is on longboat key sarasota florida yeah they have a headquarters
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there absolutely they are going to get hit so our prayers to our friends at rumble i know that they're
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probably you know already taking you know everything you know very seriously and starting to evacuate and
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starting to do all the things that they need to do they're just amazing over there and we wish them
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well as we do everybody else that's in the path of this next hurricane and in the previous hurricane
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they're still not finished all right everybody will you all be safe you be kind to one another