In this episode, Pete and Kat talk about the DeSantis 2020 primary debate and why it was a bad idea. Plus, they talk about why the primary debate should have been a lot more fun, and how the media handled it.
00:02:47.600Oh yeah, they did a whole article. There's articles and everything just because I was just calling it. Like I've seen it. I'm trying to be honest, but man, that was boring.
00:02:58.360I kept trying to get on and I'd get on and then it'd kick me off. Then I'd get on and kick off and they had to reboot it. I mean, this is just not how you start a campaign. It's terrible.
00:03:13.040And just admit it. If it was Trump, I'd say the same thing. I'd say this was a bad idea.
00:03:16.860You would have. But here's the other thing. DeSantis was reading a script. He really wasn't answering any of the questions. There was a lot of duck and dive.
00:03:27.940To me, I haven't really listened to Twitter spaces, but in an environment like that, when you're announcing that you're coming out for president, you're not reading a speech.
00:03:39.180It shouldn't be delivered that way. It should have been more fun, get to know you.
00:03:43.140Yeah, are you going to run it? Are you going to run it like a true debate or lie about it? And that's what happened.
00:03:49.000I mean, they were just like, the people they picked to ask questions already knew the questions and he already knew what they were going to ask.
00:03:57.940And they were predetermined people they're going to pick. That's why I always say the spaces. I always come back with Elon and says, well, join us for the spaces.
00:04:05.520I said, the spaces, you got the same 10 or 20 people you're allowed to talk and everybody else is cut off.
00:04:38.920Pete, people don't. Pete, people don't realize they're like, well, this is policy and policy was read and this is what we like about it.
00:04:45.580It's OK. Like if you like to say, as we've said it before, we don't hate you and we're all going to be friends in the end.
00:04:50.500That's right. But but if it was terrible, I'm like, this is, you know, number one, you don't go somewhere that's untested and do something for the first time just out of the blue like that.
00:05:06.840You know, I listen to Rush Limbaugh pretty much every day I could, which was almost every day for years and, you know, decades.
00:05:14.500And I remember I remember some of this it brought to me before it happened.
00:05:20.480I was going, this isn't going to work. And it was something Rush Limbaugh said.
00:05:23.640And Rush Limbaugh is the greatest radio announcer in history.
00:05:27.520I mean, most of his stuff's on AM. He had some FM stations, but he you know, he's a radio guy.
00:05:34.080You know, you don't he said when you're on the radio and nobody can see you and it's not TV and it's not a podcast where everybody can see you.
00:05:41.340And he goes, you have to be entertaining.
00:05:44.600Then if if you just the worst thing you can do, I'm paraphrasing here, but I just remember this show one time he was talking about the worst thing you do can do is just read figures like here's the budget and they're going to spend one hundred and fifty three thousand dollars on this four hundred and fifty nine thousand, you know, or talk about policy.
00:06:04.800Just just blank the whole show. Talk about policy.
00:06:09.520He said, if you do those things and you're a politician, you're or you're a radio host and you just you're just spitting out numbers and figures and really getting into the details, you're going to bore the hell out of the audience.
00:06:21.060Yes. And you're not going to last long. And I was thinking that's exactly what he's doing.
00:06:25.440Nobody can see him and he's just reading policy.
00:06:28.680You might agree with the policy, but I'm telling you, a lot of this is just I don't like that guy or I do like that guy or I do like that woman or whatever.
00:06:38.080It all boils down to that. A lot of business, these meetings, it's it's about personality.
00:06:43.540It's not about the nuts and bolts. It just is.
00:06:45.900I mean, you know, there's an it factor and, you know, not many people's had it.
00:06:52.920Reagan had it. And, you know, the Bushes never, never had it.
00:06:58.680Hillary never had it. Bill Clinton had it back in the day when Bill you might not have been a lot of people might not remember Bill Clinton like I did.
00:07:07.080But man, he was a he was a star superstar, like bigger than Obama.
00:07:11.700I ever thought about that. And he, you know, he had this charisma about him, although he's a rapist.
00:07:16.820And then Obama, believe it or not, Obama had it.
00:07:19.500Do you not remember the 80,000 people and stuff he was drawing?
00:15:34.800Now, if you do like some of these, especially newer accounts, and they don't have a lot of followers, but they're starting to get popular and they're just they don't they don't understand how to fight right on Twitter.
00:15:46.840And they're just like personal attacks.
00:15:48.820Just I mean, they sound exactly like Adam Kinzinger or somebody from the Lincoln Project.
00:15:53.260They're that obnoxious and they're going to turn people where they're not going to vote for DeSantis at all.
00:15:58.400If they don't get them off his team, even if he won the primary, they're just going to set it home because these people are obnoxious and they don't they don't understand the political game at all.
00:16:06.980They're just throwing they're just throwing errors at everybody, arrows.
00:16:10.640And but, you know, if you talk shit against me the first time, then I am going to hit back.
00:16:36.940If if he can be saved from these rhinos and these establishment figures that are trying to groom him and then at the same time, they don't care.
00:16:46.280See, they don't care how they get him out.
00:29:52.400And every single person on Fox News and every single person in Washington, D.C. and the Republican Party and all their donors, he had 95% Washington, D.C. Republican endorsement and all the money.
00:31:31.900Remember, Trump's the one that started this stuff.
00:31:33.980I mean, he was on Twitter every day tweeting.
00:31:38.600And he needs to get back there, by the way.
00:31:40.540It was almost like a like we regressed.
00:31:43.420We went back to the whole Kennedy election where, you know, you needed somebody to come out on camera, which President Trump has done and is doing.
00:31:51.760He's doing the videos and everything else.
00:31:53.700If you want to do side interviews, radio interviews later.
00:31:59.080But to announce this way, huge mistake.
00:32:01.540And he's going to say whatever you want about Trump.
00:32:03.340But all these people and him included, DeSantis included, and every Republican candidate I've ever seen in my life, and all the Democrat Party.
00:32:11.720I have never seen anybody that will face the music.
00:32:14.860I mean, Obama was the same way as Biden.
00:32:17.120If they did talk, do a press conference every 562 days, they would have all planned answers.
00:33:53.640They're going to, yeah, they're not going to, they're not going to, they know that they're going to get the Democrat voters because they're low IQ, low information voters.
00:34:03.000They're going to get all the Democrats and all the, everybody in the North pretty much votes Democrat.
00:34:09.080And they're going to get all those and they don't care and they're going to cheat like hell and use every little trick in the book and bring in ballots in the middle of the night.
00:34:16.940They know the Republicans aren't going to say anything.
00:34:18.720So they're just going to run, not, they don't have to campaign anymore.
00:34:40.620It doesn't take a lot of brain power to understand what they're actually doing.
00:34:45.260Meanwhile, who's over there unscathed, hiding in his basement, doing more damage to this country than anybody has ever seen in their lives?
00:38:16.160That's what we end up with because they put on this big show.
00:38:19.160They could have easily just called us and we would have been happy to advise, but that would have not been something that I would have said, oh, that looks like a really great idea.
00:38:37.520I do agree with doing something groundbreaking, but man, when you're doing something like that that's never been done, you better think it through.
00:41:17.040There are four of them in here from you, Cat Turd.
00:41:18.740I could have just done this, then go to your Twitter page.
00:41:21.180I've got to be careful at what I say because, I mean, sometimes I'm just goofing around, joking around, and I wake up, and it's in the New York Times.
00:43:27.560I mean, he was announcing that he was running for president of the United States.
00:43:31.660It should have been short and quick to the point.
00:43:33.700Then he could have had a much later situation where he started addressing the concerns of people, individual, make that more personal, get to know Ron.
00:43:44.220But this whole thing where he just was reading from a paper and you didn't have that kind of relaxed environment, it really wasn't the right venue to announce his candidacy for the president of the highest office in the land.
00:44:04.720If he wanted to do like a Tucker Carlson video with all of his family there behind him and showing him in this light and he has some things that he wants to discuss with everybody on social media in a social media kind of way, okay.
00:45:16.880I've been trying to tell him every day on this podcast, I say, how many more days is it before he's going to cave and fold like a cheap tent?
00:47:18.600We need people to wake up and understand that the current regime is absolutely working hand in hand to completely take away our sovereignty.
00:47:29.680People must understand that their idea of who we are are the people that fund their operations.
00:47:38.220All of our nickels and dimes make them the most powerful people in the world.
00:48:13.660So now while they have everybody distracted with all this nonsense, they've convinced Ron DeSantis to run against President Trump, who would have easily been the mentor for him going in so that we would have had four years of President Trump and eight years of DeSantis.
00:48:30.440Honestly, in an ideal world, that could have been a great combination.
00:48:34.220Now, all of a sudden, they're going to have those two destroy each other, and Biden's going to be in the basement, and he's not even going to have to campaign.
00:48:43.400And then whoopsie-daisy, is it already that time to vote?
00:48:46.460You mean we don't have boots on the ground?
00:49:20.100So we're going to figure out what we need to do to work around and to be productive and constructive in our next moves because they have a plan, believe me.
00:49:31.140And I refuse to continue to be a pawn in that plan.
00:49:36.820So I'm looking forward to the opportunities that we can help, that we can pitch in, where we can use our voice, where we can use our boots,
00:49:45.280our picking up the phone and dialing folks and knocking on doors and everything else.
00:49:50.600We're going to have to really roll up our sleeves this time around and see the forest despite the trees and see what we have.
00:49:59.000And right now, things aren't looking that good.
00:51:03.680They can have them come in right there, count enough to blow the—because the states usually decided, you know, 12,000 to 60,000 votes, and they can just push them in, take out the whole state, win the whole election.
00:52:59.620I mean, even if you were to put all of their money together, it's not going to amount or amass to what all of our little dollars come out to be.
00:53:13.220When you start looking at the fact that they're going after President Trump as a just-in-case, and they get the bonus of destroying DeSantis in the process.
00:53:27.900DeSantis, I mean, normally when somebody, especially if they're down this far before they announce, and then they finally announce, they usually get this huge bump.
00:53:36.840And sometimes it'll take a few days, but boy, I ain't seen it.
00:53:43.580I mean, Trump's basically still up 40 points.
00:53:46.120Well, Trump is actually going to capitalize on this now.
00:53:49.720And that is good for us because President Trump sees an opportunity with the disaster that this whole thing was, and he is going to use it to his advantage.
00:54:16.780Twitter's the big thing now because Elon Musk owns it, and he's got to go there.
00:54:24.820If you're going to run for president and you want milk, you know, it would break the Internet if he just said, I'm back, and tweeted one thing.
00:54:33.880And then he'll talk about how wonderful he was able to skyrocket on Twitter, that his account is booming, and look at how many people came to listen to him.
00:54:44.880Most biggest, beautiful account in history.
00:56:21.740Somebody's wheeling her around the Capitol, and they're looking for replacements.
00:56:27.060Well, don't forget the other shiny candidate that would probably, DeSantis, would have gone against Newsom, who is up, wants something like this,
00:56:38.860wants to use Hollywood and all of the power that lie with Oprah and her following and her base and her connections, her money, all of that stuff.
00:56:50.780And so when you look at down the road, they've destroyed DeSantis and make way, make way for this group.
00:56:57.860They're all coming in, and she's going to owe Gavin for that appointment.
00:59:01.940I don't want to see that happen to the rest of America.
00:59:03.960I don't want how they've run my state to affect you, and therefore I'm looking at Gavin Newsom, and I'm going, oh, no, we couldn't handle something like that.
01:00:05.200I have to single her out because she has been wanting so hard to help us improve the show and sent us $1,000 this week so that we could improve the show with all of the scoops, the video program, and all of that stuff.
01:00:23.900I've donated $1,000 to the show, so I wanted to make sure that we thanked her personally for something like that because that is a huge gift, and everybody else.