00:04:25.900So our primary focus is to say that everything about Canada was not broken, but has been broken, especially since Pierre Elliott Trudeau.
00:04:33.900So we want to help people to say there's not a whole lot that we have to do in independence to fix the problems that we see in Canada or in Alberta.
00:04:57.480I don't want to make that sound more drastic than it is, but it's the only way.
00:05:02.140Okay. So at the top of your, by the way, if you want to find out more about this, renewalberta.ca is the website you can go to. At the top of your webpage, it says, we exist to preserve the history and ideals of old Canada through the independence and renewal of Alberta. Is that just basically what you explained to me?
00:05:24.480As silly as that sounds, that's the reality.
00:05:27.300John A. Macdonald, they're knocking down statues of him.0.95
00:05:31.020The background of Canada, the history of Canada is now, oh, colonialism, genocide, a bunch of settlers who brutalized and terrorized people.
00:05:41.060And so if we want to preserve the truth of our history, the greatness of people like Macdonald and Laurier, the people who fought at Vimy Ridge and at Juneau Beach,
00:05:48.540We have to keep Alberta out of this whirlpool that the rest of the country is going down.
00:05:55.980We've heard a lot about sort of the 30-30-30 or 33-33-33.
00:06:01.340There's the 33% who really want Alberta independence.
00:06:05.160There's the people in the middle who are kind of sitting on the fence.
00:06:08.360And then there's the 33% who are saying no.
00:06:11.320from reading your website, it seems to me that maybe Renew Alberta is about trying to convince
00:06:17.520some of those people who are absolute no's right now to vote for independence. Is that what you're
00:06:22.460looking for? 100%. Not only the no's, but the guys that are on the fence. Because it is scary. If we
00:06:28.380say, you know, oh, everything about Canada is terrible. Well, that's not actually true. Most
00:06:32.800of us are old enough to remember a time when Canada worked. So to say, let's go back to that.
00:06:38.460unfortunately, it does require independence. I would love to say that, you know what, Canada can
00:06:42.340be preserved, that we can all turn and shift. But what we've seen is that Canada as a whole
00:06:48.900seems to like the direction it's going, but Alberta is taking a different stand.
00:06:52.920You know, I said, I think I may have learned something from reading your website because
00:06:57.000over the last year, the first time I spoke with Mitch Sylvester was middle of June last year.
00:07:03.580And I think at the time, or at least at least sometime around there, I said to him,
00:07:07.900What do you do about the people who wrap themselves in the flag and they say they're patriotic and that's the only reason they want to stay?
00:07:15.740And this is a question I've asked of many people.
00:07:17.660I asked it a few weeks ago when I was in Delburn at a Let's Talk Alberta event.
00:07:21.640It's a hard one to get around, but I think perhaps by reading your website, I'm getting the feeling that you're trying to convince people that the Canada that they once knew no longer exists.
00:07:34.040and that we can have that Canada that you remember, but in an independent Alberta.
00:07:38.720Is that what you're looking to do here?
00:12:36.960Because we are working towards the same thing.
00:12:38.380Yeah, we're all on the same team, and it's one of the things also that I'm a little bit uncomfortable with is fighting among conservatives or among people who have different values.
00:12:46.660Well, I've heard a lot of that over the last couple of weeks, a lot of it, yeah.
00:14:15.440Because I've really appreciated what Stay Free Alberta, APP, many of the other groups, Chris Scott, like you're saying, are doing in having meetings.
00:14:23.580I think all of us need to just think through what we're saying a little bit more.
00:14:29.500Do you hope to maybe sit down with some of these people to discuss? Maybe you're focusing on those people who are in the mushy middle and the ones who are complete no's right now. Do you plan on trying to coordinate in order that you can get your message out and they can be talking about something else?
00:14:45.920A hundred percent. We want to try to connect with people. I'm not opposed to meeting with people. In fact, I say, you know, if I can talk to one person or a hundred people about Alberta and independence, I'm happy to do it. And so we want to be effective as we can and try to move people from no to yes or from maybe to for sure. And however that's the best able to be done, we're willing to do it.
00:15:07.860Now you have all of the different organizations. They've got a donate page. What will money go towards if they want to donate to your organization?
00:15:15.920So if you want to donate to us, the primary thing is we're trying to build the reach of