00:00:00.000Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. Great to have you along today. And today we're going to
00:00:08.300talk about the independence movement and how you can help one of the third party advertisers get
00:00:13.800the message out for Alberta independence, which is especially important right now, moving forward
00:00:20.220up to the big vote on October the 19th. Great to have you along today and great to have my two
00:00:25.100guest with me today. We've got Kathy Flett and Angela Tabak. Alberta Women for Independence
00:00:31.580is the third-party advertiser. I want to congratulate both of you for doing this.
00:00:35.900Well done to you. Thank you. So we'll start off with Angela and we'll get to Kathy in just a
00:00:41.740moment. I know that I've had dealings with you and worked with you a little bit in the past with
00:00:48.240another group, but you've decided to put your toe into the water as a third-party advertiser
00:00:54.200moving forward just quickly why is this important to you well you know over the last year almost
00:01:01.480year and a half we've kind of already been doing this we've been traveling around the province
00:01:06.600we've been speaking to women and men in their homes at local restaurants also doing town halls
00:01:14.840that type of thing and really if we wanted to continue to be able to promote alberta independence
00:01:23.320and specifically promote the idea of voting for option b uh in the referendum on question number
00:01:33.08010 very specifically that we had to sign up as a register as a third-party advertiser and so that
00:01:40.040was kind of the thing that gave us that boost to do that because we want to continue doing what
00:01:44.520we've been doing for the last year and a bit anyways you know i will go to you kathy i i
00:01:49.880maybe it was one of you i can't remember i was talking to somebody not too long ago and i said
00:01:53.640is it is it really important that women get involved in this and the answer i got was
00:01:57.880well we are 51 of the population john so yes of course it's important that women get their
00:02:03.720message out there but being the alberta women for independence um is there a different message
00:02:09.880you're passing along when it comes to the moniker you've got for your group yeah i think so it's
00:02:16.120it's perhaps a little bit of a softer message than the guys and that's how we like to describe
00:02:20.680it you know you guys you see something that's not working it doesn't bother you to tear it down and
00:02:24.200build it up again women we like to fix things right we so we we have to we have to come at
00:02:30.280it a little bit different and first show ladies kind of a take them on a journey if you will0.62
00:02:36.840as to why we can't fix this we'd love to but we can't and so then once we reach that it's okay
00:02:42.840well now we've got these 10 referendum questions coming at us let's work our way through each one
00:02:48.600of them and see how are we going to vote what is going to make sense and then specifically on that
00:02:54.040very last one as angela was saying it's not an up and down question it's a multiple choice pick this
00:02:58.760one or this one and so we just are wanting to make sure that that yeah everybody understands
00:03:05.000but specifically we we do target women with a bit of a different message a bit of a softer message0.59
00:03:10.200How is this going to affect your family, your home, your neighborhood, your community, your job, all of that?0.81
00:03:16.920And it doesn't usually take very long before they see that it definitely will be much brighter on the other side.
00:03:23.020I just made a donation to you guys, and certainly money is going to be important moving forward so that you can continue to do these events.
00:03:29.380And I'll put on the screen right now, but it's abwomensindependencenetwork.com.
00:03:35.340abwomensindependencenetwork.com. If you can click on donate and make a donation, we'll explain a
00:03:41.820little bit more about that in a moment because there are rules, lots of rules involved here,
00:03:45.300Angela. I know with the group you were doing before, there weren't these rules involved, but
00:03:48.860people do have to abide by the rules. A lot of the message I suppose you're passing along is
00:03:54.620similar to what other people are talking. You're getting, you know, the same people coming out and
00:03:58.740saying, listen, I'm concerned about my CPP, my OAS, what happens with this and that if Alberta leaves.
00:04:04.340and you're trying to strike up a conversation and help people understand more as we move forward
00:04:10.120yeah absolutely and you know we're kind of looking at the other registered tpas and kind of
00:04:16.620watching what they're doing like the approach that they are taking you know we look at cory
00:04:21.420morgan and he is really about visibility so we're looking looking at you know thousands of lawn
00:04:27.200signs and billboards and taber and other areas and that type of thing um jason levine same thing
00:04:33.980he's got billboards in Edmonton we've decided that we're going our approach is really going
00:04:38.020to be honing in on the education factor I mean of course we want to contribute to the visibility we
00:04:44.940just went and did our first order for lawn signs we've got a bunch of lawn signs coming next week
00:04:50.020just ordered a bunch of postcards that people can hand out to their friends to invite them to come
00:04:56.120to events and meetings but really we we think our niche is the educational portion of it and
00:05:03.760making sure that when folks step into that voting booth that they're already familiar with the
00:05:09.500questions because it's not just a question it's a little paragraph that each that they have to look
00:05:15.700at and decide is this yes or no our biggest fear is that people will get into that voting booth
00:05:20.940it'll be the first time they see that paragraph and not wanting to stand there and like read
00:05:26.620through it and figure it out they're just going to vote for the status quo it's just going to be a no
00:05:30.820and so we've kind of taken it on ourselves that that's our mission is to make sure that
00:05:35.860that folks are already familiar with those questions that they have had time to examine
00:05:40.580them and think about it and then go and vote with confidence you know i'm i hope i can get
00:05:46.540one of your lawn signs i put a lawn sign out um the other night mr and mrs alberton were here at
00:05:51.8001 30 in the morning when i got my sign i'd like to get a bunch of them i think cory's getting
00:05:55.520some four by eights that would block off the street so i think i'll stay away from that
00:05:59.000But I want to get one of your lawn signs.
00:06:02.420So be sure to let us know when you're giving them out or if you have an event.
00:06:06.360And if you really need some help, there's a lot of people who want to volunteer passing those signs around the province.
00:06:12.360As you've known, you've seen Corey's, you know, his lawn signs are getting all over the place.
00:06:17.220So be sure to reach out and we can get those people working for you as well.
00:06:20.880So you're going to be talking to people.
00:06:23.860Do you find it's difficult to get people talking right now?
00:06:26.720Do you think maybe as we get closer to the event, Kathy, we'll start to see people taking more of an interest of what's going on right now?
00:06:35.000I think so. September for sure. It's going to pick right up.
00:06:37.960I mean, it's summertime. People are starting to shut down.
00:06:40.500They don't want to think about anything other than sticking their toes in the sand and relaxing for a little bit.
00:06:47.200Right. So there's that. But at the same time, there is still a curiosity.
00:06:52.160and so we want to make sure we capture that as well and we don't lose that momentum either so
00:06:57.240as as the needs go and as we'll continue to do our little community events like we've been doing
00:07:02.880um we'll just keep going through the summer we kept last summer we didn't slow down one bit so
00:07:07.480i don't expect this will be any different and then september will be crazy and in fact angela
00:07:13.380and i have already we're putting together a tour an alberta tour that we'll be doing two weeks
00:07:18.880leading up to the referendum so that we can hit all the communities that we possibly can in two
00:07:24.220weeks with our with our little piece of paper saying here's all these long questions this is
00:07:30.280what they say this is why we suggest you vote in this particular way and make sure you do vote
00:07:37.080one of the challenges that I'm running into already is people say I'm just going to vote
00:07:41.580for the one question and I don't care about the rest it's like no no no no no no don't do that
00:07:46.320we need you voting for every single question and right and and helping people process that out
00:07:53.200and kind of game that out in their heads we know that these constitutional questions aren't going
00:07:57.120to amount to a hill of beans that's not the point right that's not the point the point is you want
00:08:04.240to prove that they're not going to amount to a hill of beans so that when we pick option two
00:08:10.320we want that referendum to get out of here we've got even more proof as to why we got to go i'm
00:08:15.360I'm wondering, Angela, why did you get involved in the independence movement?
00:08:19.700What was it that really pushed you over the edge?
00:08:23.060Well, I was doing the single mom thing when COVID hit and lost all three of my jobs that I was using to support myself and my daughter.
00:08:33.780And one night I was scrolling through and I came across the Wild Rose Independence Party of Alberta and was reading kind of the things that they were standing for, you know, like our personal rights and freedoms and bodily autonomy and property rights.
00:08:45.100and all that and that just really got the wheels turning for me um and gave i had a lot of time on
00:08:52.620my hands so i started researching and reading michael wagner and all those different things
00:08:57.320and and it it wasn't a conclusion that i came to very quickly but it was um over the years my
00:09:05.000resolve for this has been strengthened the more i learn about it um the more convinced i am is that
00:09:12.300we have to do this that there's no other way and i love your cat you know my cats have become
00:09:18.140getting rather um famous my cat blue this is red so he's getting in on this i hope you don't mind
00:09:24.380more of a fuss try to get rid of them so i apologize
00:09:31.180our dogs are in the background so don't worry about it just i hope you just don't get the
00:09:35.820single eye shot from the back end if you know what i'm talking about
00:09:38.140So, Kathy, I'm wondering, what was it that put you over the edge with this?
00:09:44.340I have been on this side of politics for decades, actually.
00:09:50.600I was introduced to this concept back in high school, the little bit that I attended, but it wasn't in school.
00:09:56.180It was outside of school reading the Alberta Report.
00:09:58.660I lived with an aunt and uncle at the time, and they had it there.
00:10:01.500And I was reading it, and I'm like, this isn't what they're teaching us.