An Important Voice For Alberta Independence - Tanya Clemens (APP Board)
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Summary
Tanya Clemens is a teacher and board member with the Alberta Prosperity Project. She has been involved in the independence movement in Alberta for a long time and has a special place in the hearts of many. In this episode, she shares her story of how she got into politics, her passion for self-dividend sovereignty, and her vision for the future of Alberta.
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Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. Great to have you along today. This is going up on
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Thursday, December the 18th, but recording it on Wednesday. And thank you so much for clicking on
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this video. Of course, I've got my big blue mug of coffee with me again today. And joining me,
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as you can see, we've got a guest. I'd like to welcome Tanya Clemens to the channel,
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board member with the Alberta Prosperity Project. Tanya, great to have you here and Merry Christmas
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to you. Thank you. Merry Christmas to you. Getting ready and excited. I've got my Santa hat over
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there. Every once in a while, I've had my Santa hat on over the last week or so. But yeah, I'm
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getting in the Christmas spirit as well. And you certainly are as well. I wanted to have you on
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here because I think you have a special place when it comes to the independence movement here in
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Alberta. I'm going to get to that in just a moment. You're also a teacher, is that right?
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Yeah, I'm a teacher by trade. I'm not teaching currently at the moment, but yeah, I have been a
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teacher and quite loved my role in the classroom with my kids. And you live on a farm? Yeah,
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currently farming. We've been farming for generations out here in Alberta. Yeah, I know
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because, you know, I went back and I watched your speech. You're one of the speakers at the Alberta
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legislature on October the 25th. And, you know, I'm looking back now at the highlights of my year,
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and that certainly was one of the days. It was just a remarkable day. And I was standing beside
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you, held your flag there while you were speaking. And again, I, and here's the thing. Now, don't
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take this the wrong way right off the top because there's a good thing here. You got a lot of booze
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to start. I watched the video today. You did because you were going over the things, the way Alberta has
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kind of suffered when it comes to confederation within Canada. But I know you tried to turn that
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around into something positive here. So as we move into a new phase of the independence movement,
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how are you feeling about it, where we might be getting to a signature campaign in January?
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And, and how do you want to convey the message to people regarding Alberta independence?
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Well, I guess like when you refer back to like my legislature's speech, yeah, there was a lot of
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booze because I think people are realizing the historical timeline of for 120 years since
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confederation, since we were brought into confederation, we have been trying to carve
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out more autonomy for ourselves and more sovereignty and prosperity and Alberta keeps getting shut down.
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So that draws the booze because that sentiment is recognized that it's, it's disappointing and sad
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and frustrated and people have reached their max level of frustration. And that's why there is so much
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support now for the sovereignty movement, especially with Alberta prosperity project. And I think my
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message now is that we actually have a clear path. Canada is one of those few countries that has a
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legal pathway for secession of a province from confederation. And we're following that path and
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we are building momentum and support. And, and now there is hope there is a way out of this mess.
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And Alberta has that opportunity to be not only sovereign and prosperous, prosperous for themselves,
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but also to be that light of freedom and prosperity for the rest of the planet.
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Yeah. You mentioned that there are countries around the world watching us in your speech
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as well. And I've heard that from other people. Yeah. So the thing that a lot of people, I remember
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when I went around on the legislature, I took my camera around, I was kind of interviewing a few
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people. I did a video on a channel here and I went up to a family and I said to them, what,
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what does it mean to you, the independence movement? There's some young people there and they said money.
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And I think that certainly does draw people into the independence movement here. You know,
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when you talk about maybe, you know, lower taxes or maybe no income tax is something or less money
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going from Alberta to Ottawa, we can keep it for ourselves. But what I got from your message and I
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heard a lot of, not, I mean, overtly heard from you, but also through the lines was self-determination.
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We decide our fate, things like that. Not really not asking for permission anymore for Alberta. And is
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that, is that part of your message? Is that the thing that you kind of focus in on? Because that's what I say.
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We don't have to beg for anything from Ottawa anymore. That's the way I feel about this.
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Yeah, I think there's kind of two parts to that. I think that being a farmer, we kind of, I think we tend to be
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more libertarian by nature, that we're just, we're out, we're removed from the large portion of society.
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We're doing the work on our farms. We're not maybe quite as integrated as you would be in the city.
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And we just want to be left alone to do our work, to grow our products and to live our lives out in
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the country. So that comes from kind of maybe that, that farming background that I appreciate the rights
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to self-determination. And in a sovereign Alberta, we could create, you know, a direct democracy with
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more representation for the people, the power coming back to the people that we can't have tax increases
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without a referendum by the people and approving it and things like that. And then I guess the other
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part is that the financial part is huge for everybody. And I think that's where it really
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crosses all political lines. It doesn't matter where you fall politically. It's completely
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nonpartisan. Every family could use more money in their pocket in Alberta and having no income tax.
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That sounds really awesome. But then when you actually stop and think about it for a second,
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what does that mean? What does your paycheck look like? What do you actually take home?
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What could you do with that paycheck for your family? What would that mean for your kids' education,
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for your parents' retirement age, for how you could contribute back to your community better?
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Money drives a lot of that. So that's another huge part of it to me.
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I think it makes it interesting when you, you know, people, you know, a politician might say,
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we're going to save a billion dollars or a million dollars. If you talk to somebody and you talk about
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eliminating income tax, maybe that might mean 30% more in your bank account. And you say that to
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somebody, what if your boss gave you a 30% increase tomorrow? It would change your life.
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And in your speech, you actually said 20 to 28 billion lost in equalization, which
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means $6,000 for everybody who lives in this province and $24,000 for a family of four.
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It is. And that's like not money that we just give to Ottawa. That's money that we give to Ottawa
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that we get no services back in return for. We give them much more money. And then they give us
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back money, you know, for some of our operations within the province, but that's the overpayment
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amount. We don't need to be overpaying that. I call it returning the money to its rightful
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owner when they give it back to us, right? You said something interesting when you talked about
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living on a farm, you know, being a guy who's lived in cities my whole life. I am not one of those
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people who believes food comes from the grocery store, Tanya. Okay. I do know that farmers grow things
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and they're feeding the country. You said something that was very profound in here. You said,
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you think about the land, the sky, the work before me and the people I love. That's what freedom feels
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like to me. And I thought that was very profound.
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Oh, thank you. And that's, that was a sentiment that I had from this last harvest. And I think
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I was in reference to the hockey stick I had with my flag on it that I fly from the top of my combine
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and it's an Alberta flag. And I do love this province so very much, but yeah, that's where
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I find the most peace is those harvest mornings when you're walking out to your equipment and my
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whole family is active on our farm. So that's like a real blessing and a real interesting situation to
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have your whole family involved in your operation. And the sky is always huge. We live out on the
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prairies. It's a, you can see for miles and miles. Yeah. That's just, to me, that's the Alberta that I
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love the most. And I'm not being, you know, governed by someone told what to do. I'm not
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thinking about that. I'm just thinking about how much I love this land, the job that I have before
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me and my family. And, you know, for somebody who's come from Ontario, I moved here about 13
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years ago. I was out mountain biking a couple of years ago with a friend of mine who was from the
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States. He was from West Virginia and we were out near barrier Lake mountain biking. And I'm out
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looking over the lake from way, way up high after riding up there. And we stood there and looked out over
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the lake and we could see highway 40, which goes off towards highwood pass into can and ask his
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country. And my friend looked at me and he said one word to me. And I, I feel that way. Every time
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I think about living in this province, I, the word he said was blessed. Yeah. That's how I feel.
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We are deeply blessed. And, and, and the people are different here. Do you agree with me?
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I think that's what's, yeah, I totally agree with you. I think that's what's, what's creating this
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momentum too, is that people are hardworking and their creators and their builders were
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makers. That's what this province is full of. And we just want to be able to do that without
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punishment. Okay. So you're sitting in front of a fireplace. You've got your stockings hanging
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there. I've, I've worn the Santa hat here a few times. We often forget, I don't forget, but people
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often forget what Christmas is really about. It's not about Santa Claus and gifts. You talked about
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faith, family, and freedom at your speech. What does that mean to you?
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You know, I think a lot of my faith actually comes back to, um, this one moment and it's just a short
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story, but it really, it changed how I think about faith a lot too. And I do have a very, um, deep
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relationship with God and have a lot of conversations, especially lately about where we're going and am I
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doing the right thing? And can you make sure that I have the tools to do this well? But, um, my dad,
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when he was courting my mom, uh, long, long ago, over like almost 50 years ago now, they, uh, he took
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her out into a field and they were having like the religious, um, discussion. And he went out into the
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field with her and said, you know what, this right here, look around at this field in the sky, this is
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where I find God. And this is where I feel closest to it. And once I was old enough and heard that story,
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I think it just kind of sunk deep into me that, yeah, you know what, that's where I feel the
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connection is being a part of this land. And I've worked really hard to try to bridge some of the
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disconnect between some of like the urban rural communities that maybe don't understand that
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connection or don't have a grandparent that farms anymore, an uncle that farms anymore to try to,
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to show them that this, this is something very valuable. And this is where we are richly blessed
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this land, this Alberta land. Yeah. Okay. So what I did was when I watched your speech,
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I wrote three things down off the top here. I put teacher, you live on a farm and I put woman,
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obviously, but I think this is very important. And this is what I wanted to talk to you about.
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I've spoken to a lot of people on this channel and most of them are men and to have a female voice
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out there on the 25th of October at the Alberta legislature and having a female
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voice out there. Do you think it's important? I think it's very important that we have people like
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you speaking on behalf of this movement. And that's why I thought it was important to have
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you on here. And I need to get you back on this channel. What do you think of that?
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Well, I think that's, yeah, having a female perspective maybe resonates with people,
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but I guess I have the mindset that I've never actually thought of that I'm speaking as a female.
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I'm just speaking to someone who loves Alberta and everyone else that's speaking on behalf of Alberta
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Prosperity Project. They also have a deep love for Alberta and they convey their messages
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in different ways and it resonates with different groups of people. And to me, that's kind of the
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priority is having a wide group of people that can resonate with the rest of Albertans and do our
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mission of educating on the merits of a sovereign Alberta. So I appreciate that it's, that you think
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it's awesome too, that I am a woman speaking on behalf of this, but to me, it's not even about that.
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It's just about people that can speak the language of others and make that message resonate.
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Well, and that's fair. That's just, that's just fine. Now, moving forward, we're looking at
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a possible signature campaign coming up. It's exciting. I want to try to accentuate the positive
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a little more than the negative because we can beat up on the things that have kind of held us back
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for 125 years in this country, or we can move forward to the things that can benefit people
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with this movement. A big event coming up on January the 26th here in Calgary, a little closer to
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home for us, Tanya. It's nice. I think, you know, we don't have to go all the way up to Edmonton.
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But are you going to be involved in that? And do you, do you figure you're going to be spending
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more time doing this in the coming months up to maybe a referendum vote in October,
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maybe September, October of 2026? Yeah, well, I've already had that conversation with my family
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that this is probably the most important year of Alberta's history. And this vote will be the most
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important vote that Albertans ever get to make. So we've had that discussion and whatever time is
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requested of me or however I can help the movement, I will give gladly all the time that I can and
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whatever skill set that I have to that. The January 26th event, they're just, the team is still working
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on that. There's like a whole group of volunteers that are organizing that. So I don't know all the
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details of it yet, but I will definitely be there for sure. Whether I'm speaking at it for sure,
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I'm not positive, but I will definitely be there and supporting that and bringing people in and making
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calls to make sure everyone knows that it's happening. Yeah, it's really exciting. I can
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hardly wait for that to come up in late January. Still waiting for details and I'm on it as soon as
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we find out what's happening and how you can reserve seats because it's going to be a biggie,
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I do believe, at the BMO Centre here in Calgary. Just before I leave you, you said something during
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your speech. I think it's important, a message that we need to pass along. You know, it's been
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something I've discussed here with other people who've been on my channel. Corey Morgan said,
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you know, if we do leave the country, we're just going to have a different relationship with the
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country. They'll still be there. Your grandmother might still be in Toronto. You might have somebody
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living out in Nova Scotia. You said this movement isn't about dividing, it's about uniting. What do
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you mean by that? That's like in reference to the pursuit of self-determination, the pursuit of
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sovereignty, the pursuit of respecting each other. Those are unifying principles. This isn't about
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dividing and conquering. It is actually about unifying people around that message that who
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doesn't need, you know, less income tax, more money to be able to contribute to their communities
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and their families. All of those are like unifying principles. So that's what I'm meaning by it.
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We can get around this. All of us can get behind this. Great message. You also, I think you said,
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was it choice and voice we're going to have if we get this opportunity to move ahead when it comes
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to the referendum and hopefully independence in 2026. It's great speaking with you. I'm going
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to have to have you back on again real soon. I really appreciate it. I enjoyed your speech
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standing beside you there at the legislature. Again, one of the highlights of the year for me
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was being there with all those people that day. It was really uplifting. You have a Merry Christmas.
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I appreciate you spending some time with me here on the channel.
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Thank you. And I just appreciate you very much. Thank you for all of your help and support.
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Merry Christmas. Tanya Clemens, board member, Alberta Prosperity Project teacher. She works
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on a farm and she speaks on behalf of the independence movement. And we hope to hear from
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her again in the new year. Thanks for watching the video. If you liked it, give it a thumbs up,
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