Enough Is Enough: Stop the Mockery, Stop the Abuse, Stop the Recalls!
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Summary
In this episode, John talks about the growing number of United Conservative Party MLAs who are being recalled and why he thinks it's a bad idea. He also talks about how the threshold to trigger a by-election has been set too low.
Transcript
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Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. It is 1.30 in the afternoon, Thursday, December
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the 4th. Hope you're having a great day today. I certainly am with the big blue mug of coffee
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and I'm going to talk about an issue that I haven't touched on on this channel yet because
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sometimes I like to let ideas percolate a little bit. I've been thinking about this
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over the last couple of days, actually probably going back a couple of weeks when this story
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started to break and I'm going to talk about all of these recall petitions of United Conservative
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Party MLAs in Alberta and how this is an abuse of power. I think most right-thinking people,
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and I mean right, conservative, and right meaning we're on the right side of this, would agree
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with that. This is wrong, what is going on here. And you know what, I'm going to tie this in
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with something that's happened fairly recently when it comes to Canadian politics and you'll
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remember it. I'm going to get to that in just a moment. So when was this recall petition
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idea put into place? Well, let's go back and let's look at this story from Global News.
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This is March 15th, the Ides of March. I just noticed that. Beware of the Ides of March,
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United Conservative Party. 2021, Alberta introduces recall bill for provincial municipal politicians,
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school trustees. So I'll just read a bit of this story for you. I know you don't like me reading
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a lot, but here it is. Alberta has introduced legislation that would allow citizens to organize
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petition drives to recall members of the legislature, municipal politicians, and school board
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trustees. United Conservative Premier Jason Kenney says the bill fulfills an election commitment to make
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it clear that at the end of the day, ordinary Alberta voters are the boss in our democracy. If they lose
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faith in their elected representatives, they can hold them to account in between elections. And we are
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in between elections right now. So I don't know a lot about Alberta recall legislation. So I looked
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it up. I don't know whether anybody else has, but I looked it up. And when I went to the legislation, I
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realized that the bar for doing this is set really low. I'm just totally stunned that it can be so simple
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to recall a politician. You know, I thought you would have to do something pretty bad, like commit a
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crime and be convicted, be proven corrupt, just not show up for work over and over and over again, or be
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totally incompetent to recall somebody. I thought the bar would have to be set pretty high. And I think,
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you know, you got to give Jason Kenney credit for this. I think it's a good idea. I think recall legislation is a good
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idea. And when he wanted this legislation to pass, he had his mind in the right place. Here he is talking
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about how this system could be abused, which is happening right now.
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Our next question comes from Angela Leonard Johnson. And she says, do you support recall legislation?
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Yes, I do, Angela. I personally do. Although it will be up to the members of the new party,
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as to whether it becomes a policy of the United Conservatives. It has been a wild rose policy,
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but not a PC policy. I've been fighting for recall in Alberta since I helped to start the
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Taxpayers Association back in the early 1990s. I just have one condition. I think the thresholds
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to trigger a by-election as a result of a recall petition have to be high enough to avoid
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frivolous abuse of the recall mechanism by special interest groups. Now, what do I mean by that,
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Angela? Well, listen, if we form a united conservative government, we're going to have
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to make some tough fiscal decisions. And some of the NDP big spending interest groups are going to be
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ticked off. And if we have a recall law in place, I can see them immediately trying to
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disrupt the government and prevent us from implementing our election platform by recalling
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the finance minister or the premier or MLAs. And if the thresholds to trigger a by-election are low,
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then they might succeed. It won't be difficult in many ridings to get 10 or 15 percent of the NDP
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supporters to sign a recall petition. So my view, Angela, is that yes to recall as a mechanism for
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ultimate accountability for the voters, especially if MLAs do something that's just crazy wrong,
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ethically or otherwise. Despite what Premier Kenney wanted, the threshold to trigger a by-election has
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been set far too low. And I think you'll agree with me that Premier Kenney at his heart in the right
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place when this was introduced. It eventually passed. Leave to the side what you think of Jason
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Kenney and the job he did as Premier. I think you'll agree that getting rid of a bad politician for the
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right reasons is a good thing. And I stated some of those reasons earlier. And I think when people
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think of the low threshold, they think of the number of votes. And it could be concerning.
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If you look at the current recall petitions here, here's a list. There's 14 here. One more will be
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added. That will be Premier Smith. The reason for going through this process, and the process is
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the punishment here. The reason for going through this process for Daniel Smith is ridiculous,
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as most of these things are. If we just look at Demetrios Nikolaitis from Calgary Bow, who's the
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Education Minister, you see the number of signatures needed on the petition is a little over 16,000. It might be
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hard to get to. Who knows? Mr. Nikolaitis only won in his riding in the 2023 election with 13,175 over
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former Calgary City Councillor and far left nutcase, Drew Farrell. But it's the reason why this process is
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going through. And here's how the process works. Basically, you get the signatures on the petition.
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You go to basically a referendum in Calgary Bow. And if you get a majority,
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a little over 50% of those people to recall the politician, they lose their job as MLA,
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which triggers a very expensive by-election. Now we got 14, 15 of them going forward here.
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So chances are some of these are actually going to be successful. But it's the reasons. And here's
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the reason. This is regarding Demetrios Nikolaitis, applicant's opinion of why the recall of the member is
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warranted. I respectfully request the recall of Demetrios Nikolaitis, Alberta's Minister of
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Education and MLA for Calgary Bow. His record demonstrates a clear failure to support public
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education. Prioritizes privatization, committing to an increasing charter private school funding from
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42 million in 2022 to 561 million by 2027. Moving along here, there's more in here.
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Furthermore, Mr. Nikolaitis continues to dismiss Alberta's role in promoting fossil fuel disinformation
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in schools across the country. This is an ideological disagreement. And this should not be enough to
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trigger this petition. Unfortunately, the parameters for Elections Alberta and the Chief Electoral Officer,
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who is Gordon McClure, aren't put out in the legislation. It's really ridiculous.
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Now, Mr. Nikolaitis has responded. And listen to this. This is perfect.
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Thank you for your letter regarding Jennifer Yeremis' application under the Recall Act.
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A recall of an MLA should not proceed when the stated reason is dissatisfaction with government policy
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rather than a failure in the member's core duties. The member for Calgary Bow was elected in 2023,
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giving them a mandate to represent constituents and support their party's platform.
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Using the recall process to overturn an election based on policy disagreements
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undermines stable governance and the electoral process. Recalls should be reserved for breaches of
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public trust, ethical violations, or dereliction of duty. Not a shortcut to trigger a new election over
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political differences. This recall targets the governing party, not the individual. Hear, hear.
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I would argue with you that Mr. Nikolaitis won in the riding of Calgary Bow because most people agreed
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with him ideologically. The person who wants to recall Mr. Nikolaitis doesn't. So they're but hurt,
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and they're upset about it, and they're going through this. Just to get back at the United
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Conservative Party. Here's the process on the Election Alberta's website. I mean, there's not
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much to do here. A $500 application fee and provide 100 words or less stating the reason for the recall.
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That's about it. And nowhere in here does it say you have to have a good reason to do this.
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It's interesting because if you look at recall legislation, this is British Columbia, it's pretty
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much the same thing. They get 200 words and it only costs 50 bucks. Here's the one for Danielle Smith.
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The reason for recalling or going through this process with her is ridiculous. They approved the
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recall petition for Danielle Smith, say organizers. She's not on the list on Elections Alberta yet.
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Organizers of a recall petition for Alberta Premier Daniel Smith said Wednesday that the Elections
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Alberta has formally approved the petition. Elections Alberta has not yet posted the approved petition for
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Smith. But Post Media has seen a letter signed by Chief Electoral Officer Gordon McClure approving the
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recall application. Applicant Heather V, whose last name is being withheld for safety reasons after she
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and other organizers received threats, said Wednesday that the petition against Smith was started over
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concerns about her lack of presence and meaningful engagement with the community. Is this a good enough
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reason to recall the Premier of Alberta? You know, most people would think that having a party leader as your MLA
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or the Premier of the province was a benefit to your riding.
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And Premier Smith is very busy. She's not going to be in her riding as much as most other MLAs.
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You have to understand that. Now, this reminds me of something else. This is making a mockery of the
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electoral system. This is an abuse of the system, much like this was an abuse of the system. You
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remember the long ballot. It started in Carleton with Pierre Polyev and Bruce Van Joy during the election.
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It moved on to the by-election in Battle River Crowfoot. How many people ended up on the long ballot?
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200? It made a mockery of the system, much like this recall petition.
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They changed the rules for the election in Battle River Crowfoot so it couldn't be abused. And they
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need to change it permanently. Polyev calls for law to block long ballot protests that abuse democracy.
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Good word. Abuse. I don't know whether this has been suggested, but it should change so this can't
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happen again. Just as the Alberta government right now should change this legislation regarding these
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recall petitions and these signatures that are needed. Because there could be more of them.
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Changes to recall legislation not being considered this session. Alberta government, an article from
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just a couple of days ago in CTV News. They should change the legislation right now.
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And said that they can't do this. The only people that would be upset are the people who
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started these petitions and the far left nutcases. I think most people agree this is wrong. It's an abuse of the
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system. It makes a mockery of the system. And rewrite the legislation so the parameters are set so that
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recalls can actually happen. But they have to be for a legitimate reason. Thank you very much for
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