John Bolton - March 28, 2026


How Many LIBERALS Will Actually CONDEMN China’s Forced Labour? Let’s See.


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10 minutes

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171.13223

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1,848

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117

Hate Speech Sentences

4


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00:00:00.720 Hundreds of thousands of people from ethnic minorities, including the Uyghur community,
00:00:05.820 are being forced by the Chinese authorities to pick cotton in the far western region of Xinjiang.
00:00:11.660 That's according to information seen by the BBC.
00:00:14.400 The evidence suggests that China's cotton crop, which makes up a fifth of the world's total supply,
00:00:19.860 could be far more dependent on forced labour than was previously thought.
00:00:23.920 Now, over the past few years, more than a million Uyghurs are thought to have been detained in so-called re-education camps.
00:00:53.920 and I'm not making light of it. I am not. You saw the clip off the top but folks there's a word I
00:01:02.500 really like and people say what's your favorite word in the English language? It's not even an
00:01:07.660 English word. My favorite word of all time is schadenfreude which is a German word meaning
00:01:12.740 getting pleasure from somebody else's discomfort and that's the way I'm feeling this morning about
00:01:18.020 the Liberal Party and this Michael Ma situation. The other thing that came across my mind this
00:01:23.420 morning was, karma's a bitch, right? I mean, I said the other day in a video, I mean, the
00:01:31.200 conservatives have to do a better job of vetting people when it comes to choosing people to run
00:01:36.900 for their party. How the hell did Michael Ma get chosen to run as a conservative? Was he a plant?
00:01:43.820 Did they investigate this guy? I think somebody needs to investigate this guy now.
00:01:48.160 but they let the guy run as a conservative he won on april the 28th and before the end of the year
00:01:54.780 he's gone how does this even happen what a clown show this is but folks karma is a bitch the
00:02:01.620 liberals wooed him over their side and look what he's doing to them the guy should be gone i'm
00:02:07.460 going to i'm taking action on this folks and you can do the same i'm going to show you what i'm
00:02:11.160 doing in just a moment here's an article right here in the national post minister distances
00:02:17.300 Party from Liberal MPs' comments on forced labor in China. Let me bring myself on screen here.
00:02:23.040 I know you love seeing my face. Let's just read a bit of this story. I love this. Schadenfreude.
00:02:29.120 Energy Minister Tim Hodgson suggested his colleague Michael Ma's views do not reflect
00:02:33.900 those of the Liberal Party the day after the floor-crossing MP apologized for comments casting
00:02:39.060 doubt on reports of China's human rights abuses against Uyghurs. During a press conference on
00:02:44.400 Friday, Hodgson also referred any additional question on Ma's controversial comments to Prime
00:02:50.040 Minister Mark Carney, whose office has not issued a statement on the issue in two days. So Carney
00:02:55.440 obviously stepping up on behalf of his party to denounce Michael Ma regarding his ridiculous
00:03:02.280 comments regarding forced labor in China. Surely that's what's happening. Laurie Goldstein here on
00:03:07.520 X with the laughing and crying out loud, basically. Energy Minister Tim Hodgson, who reportedly
00:03:13.600 broker deal to have Michael Ma across the floor from the Conservatives to the Liberals,
00:03:19.320 defers questions about Ma's forced Labour controversy, Ari Chana, to PM Mark Carney,
00:03:25.000 who cancelled media availability. And he links to a story, and here it is in the National News Watch.
00:03:30.840 Just a bit of this story right here. Speaking to reporters in Markham, Ontario, on Friday,
00:03:36.500 Hodgson deferred questions on whether Ma should remain in the party's caucus to Prime Minister
00:03:42.040 Mark Carney, who did not hold a scheduled news conference during an event in Halifax on Friday.
00:03:48.220 Quote, Michael has already commented to the press. He said that his views did not reflect the views
00:03:53.760 of the Liberal Party. He has apologized for those views. Unquote. Oops, jumping ahead here. Unquote.
00:03:59.480 Hodgson told reporters when asked if Ma should remain in the Liberal caucus. But Ma made no
00:04:05.180 such acknowledgement in the apology posted to his social media or in his statement to the Canadian
00:04:10.360 Press. His statement did, however, say he condemned forced labor in all its forms. And you can
00:04:15.620 actually read his statement right here. And that's true. He didn't really denounce what's going on
00:04:21.460 in China. Anti-Boomer here with some good points. Michael Ma threw a grenade at Mark Carney's
00:04:26.580 majority plans, which is good news. I mean, it's a ray of hope for the conservatives here. And I'm
00:04:31.320 going to, and just give me a second. I want to find out if more liberals feel this way. We're
00:04:34.680 going to see if we can make that happen in a moment. There was no way he should remain in the
00:04:39.120 liberal caucus. He needs to be removed entirely and forced to resign from politics. Canada can't
00:04:45.120 go on like this. Even the CBC is reporting negatively against Michael Ma and the Liberal
00:04:52.180 Party. Watch this. One of the Liberal Party's newest MPs is facing backlash over an exchange
00:04:57.640 he had today at committee. Michael Ma was questioning a witness who is against Canada
00:05:02.020 accepting Chinese electric vehicles. That witness raised human rights violations against Uyghurs in
00:05:07.680 China. And here's how Mao responded. You claim about forced labor in Shenzhen. Have you witnessed
00:05:13.620 this yourself? Have you been there ever? I've been to China many times. Have you witnessed
00:05:19.740 forced labor in Shenzhen? Have you witnessed forced labor? Just a short answer. Have you
00:05:26.440 witnessed forced labor in Shenzhen? Yes or no? I work closely with Human Rights Watch where
00:05:35.280 Researchers did witness it.
00:05:37.700 So, thank you.
00:05:39.320 Moments later, a Conservative MP took the floor and she raised an issue with Ma's questioning.
00:05:45.380 Ms. McQuake-Johnson, I want to apologize for the member on the other side of the table.
00:05:51.100 Point of order.
00:05:52.280 Okay, colleagues, just one moment.
00:05:55.660 I'm obviously in public being accused and I'd like an apology from the member from the other side.
00:06:01.820 Okay, Mr. Ma, that would not be a point of order, and I don't...
00:06:06.920 Well, give me evidence that there's any violation that requires an apology for me on my behalf.
00:06:14.420 Ma's office sent a statement to defend his action, saying Michael used a quick burst of yes or no questions
00:06:20.680 to move away from the anti-China EV witness, and then to give the floor to the pro-China EV witness.
00:06:27.300 That was the strategy on paper.
00:06:30.120 The CBC's Olivia Stefanovich caught up with Michael Ma literally on Parliament Hill just a short time ago.
00:06:36.100 To challenge a witness on forced labor in China, do you believe there's forced labor in China?
00:06:41.100 You do? Is that a yes, Mr. Ma?
00:06:44.120 Sorry, I'm late for a meeting.
00:06:45.920 Yes, but can you please explain your comments at the Industry Committee?
00:06:49.940 I have no comment at this time.
00:06:52.140 The Conservatives are making it seem like you don't care about forced labor in China or you don't believe in it.
00:06:56.340 What do you think of that?
00:06:57.800 Well, they like to exaggerate always.
00:07:01.880 Was it really an exaggeration?
00:07:03.220 Do you believe there is forced labor in China?
00:07:05.480 I believe there are forced laborers all over the world.
00:07:08.340 What about China specifically?
00:07:10.260 Well, all over the world.
00:07:11.700 But China specifically?
00:07:14.180 Sorry, I need to write.
00:07:15.920 As much as I despise the CB, credit where it's due, well done.
00:07:20.000 This is what we expect from the news media.
00:07:21.960 This is a disgraceful thing that Michael Ma did.
00:07:25.040 and he shouldn't be in government anymore. He should be forced to resign his position
00:07:30.940 and he needs to be investigated. But I'm wondering how many other liberals feel this way.
00:07:35.700 I'm wondering if any liberals will condemn the Chinese government. I remember when this was a
00:07:43.400 thing. This is less than a year ago. Well, we're in a security section. I think we didn't have a
00:07:50.320 chance to talk about anything internationally. I think the biggest security threat to Canada is
00:07:54.060 China. That was during the leaders debate just before the election last April. Do you think
00:07:59.740 Carney would say that now? Not a chance. Do you think any liberal would say that now? Not a chance.
00:08:05.440 Do you think any liberal would condemn the Chinese government for forced labor and say it just like
00:08:12.620 that? Well, let's ask. I'm writing an email to every liberal MP in parliament, and here they are
00:08:21.800 all right here. And at the bottom, I've got the other two floor crossers, Don Tremont and
00:08:27.640 Generu. You can see them right there. Michael Ma is not on this list. We know how he feels.
00:08:33.080 And your statement on forced labor camps in China, with the recent controversy surrounding
00:08:38.280 comments by Liberal MP Michael Ma about forced labor camps in China, could you please tell me
00:08:43.900 if you think the Chinese government uses forced labor? Will you condemn the Chinese government
00:08:49.140 for this human rights abuse? And that's the question I'm going to ask every one of these
00:08:54.800 liberal MPs. Will any of them get back to me on this? It will be interesting to find out. That
00:09:00.460 will be very telling. I hope some of them will get back to me and I'll let you know if they do.
00:09:05.960 Now, what about pure polyeth? You know, I say schadenfreude is my favorite word and it's a
00:09:13.100 German word. Getting pleasure from other people's misfortune is basically what schadenfreude is.
00:09:18.980 and you've got to think pure poly of his loving this right now i don't think he said anything i
00:09:23.740 searched couldn't find anything any comments on what michael moss said but there's actually a
00:09:28.980 saying napoleon said this never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying
00:09:36.000 himself so it's going to be fascinating to see how this plays out over the next couple of days
00:09:40.640 carney has said nothing he's hiding from the media he's not answering questions he's going to have to
00:09:46.740 come out and comment on this. And all of the media needs to ask him the question, do you condemn
00:09:53.240 the Chinese government for forced labor? And every MP in the Liberal Party must be asked the same
00:10:00.720 question. And if you'd like to write your MP, you can do it as well. By the way, some people
00:10:06.960 actually have a list of all the email addresses of all the Liberal MPs online, and you can check
00:10:13.180 that out and send an email to all of them if you like as well. That's your choice. I'm not asking
00:10:18.400 you to do it, but you could certainly do that yourself. So let me know what you think in the
00:10:22.860 comments. I'm loving this. And you know, for those of you who think that the Conservative government
00:10:27.080 would be better for Canada, it might be marginally better. Of course, I want Alberta
00:10:32.500 independence. This is a ray of hope for you as we get closer to the 13th of April when there are
00:10:38.420 three by-elections and the Liberals have a chance of getting a majority. If you like the video,
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00:10:46.780 in the next one.