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- March 28, 2026
How Many LIBERALS Will Actually CONDEMN China’s Forced Labour? Let’s See.
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10 minutes
Words per Minute
171.13223
Word Count
1,848
Sentence Count
117
Hate Speech Sentences
4
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Hundreds of thousands of people from ethnic minorities, including the Uyghur community,
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are being forced by the Chinese authorities to pick cotton in the far western region of Xinjiang.
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That's according to information seen by the BBC.
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The evidence suggests that China's cotton crop, which makes up a fifth of the world's total supply,
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could be far more dependent on forced labour than was previously thought.
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Now, over the past few years, more than a million Uyghurs are thought to have been detained in so-called re-education camps.
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and I'm not making light of it. I am not. You saw the clip off the top but folks there's a word I
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really like and people say what's your favorite word in the English language? It's not even an
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English word. My favorite word of all time is schadenfreude which is a German word meaning
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getting pleasure from somebody else's discomfort and that's the way I'm feeling this morning about
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the Liberal Party and this Michael Ma situation. The other thing that came across my mind this
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morning was, karma's a bitch, right? I mean, I said the other day in a video, I mean, the
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conservatives have to do a better job of vetting people when it comes to choosing people to run
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for their party. How the hell did Michael Ma get chosen to run as a conservative? Was he a plant?
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Did they investigate this guy? I think somebody needs to investigate this guy now.
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but they let the guy run as a conservative he won on april the 28th and before the end of the year
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he's gone how does this even happen what a clown show this is but folks karma is a bitch the
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liberals wooed him over their side and look what he's doing to them the guy should be gone i'm
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going to i'm taking action on this folks and you can do the same i'm going to show you what i'm
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doing in just a moment here's an article right here in the national post minister distances
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Party from Liberal MPs' comments on forced labor in China. Let me bring myself on screen here.
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I know you love seeing my face. Let's just read a bit of this story. I love this. Schadenfreude.
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Energy Minister Tim Hodgson suggested his colleague Michael Ma's views do not reflect
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those of the Liberal Party the day after the floor-crossing MP apologized for comments casting
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doubt on reports of China's human rights abuses against Uyghurs. During a press conference on
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Friday, Hodgson also referred any additional question on Ma's controversial comments to Prime
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Minister Mark Carney, whose office has not issued a statement on the issue in two days. So Carney
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obviously stepping up on behalf of his party to denounce Michael Ma regarding his ridiculous
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comments regarding forced labor in China. Surely that's what's happening. Laurie Goldstein here on
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X with the laughing and crying out loud, basically. Energy Minister Tim Hodgson, who reportedly
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broker deal to have Michael Ma across the floor from the Conservatives to the Liberals,
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defers questions about Ma's forced Labour controversy, Ari Chana, to PM Mark Carney,
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who cancelled media availability. And he links to a story, and here it is in the National News Watch.
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Just a bit of this story right here. Speaking to reporters in Markham, Ontario, on Friday,
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Hodgson deferred questions on whether Ma should remain in the party's caucus to Prime Minister
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Mark Carney, who did not hold a scheduled news conference during an event in Halifax on Friday.
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Quote, Michael has already commented to the press. He said that his views did not reflect the views
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of the Liberal Party. He has apologized for those views. Unquote. Oops, jumping ahead here. Unquote.
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Hodgson told reporters when asked if Ma should remain in the Liberal caucus. But Ma made no
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such acknowledgement in the apology posted to his social media or in his statement to the Canadian
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Press. His statement did, however, say he condemned forced labor in all its forms. And you can
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actually read his statement right here. And that's true. He didn't really denounce what's going on
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in China. Anti-Boomer here with some good points. Michael Ma threw a grenade at Mark Carney's
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majority plans, which is good news. I mean, it's a ray of hope for the conservatives here. And I'm
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going to, and just give me a second. I want to find out if more liberals feel this way. We're
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going to see if we can make that happen in a moment. There was no way he should remain in the
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liberal caucus. He needs to be removed entirely and forced to resign from politics. Canada can't
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go on like this. Even the CBC is reporting negatively against Michael Ma and the Liberal
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Party. Watch this. One of the Liberal Party's newest MPs is facing backlash over an exchange
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he had today at committee. Michael Ma was questioning a witness who is against Canada
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accepting Chinese electric vehicles. That witness raised human rights violations against Uyghurs in
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China. And here's how Mao responded. You claim about forced labor in Shenzhen. Have you witnessed
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this yourself? Have you been there ever? I've been to China many times. Have you witnessed
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forced labor in Shenzhen? Have you witnessed forced labor? Just a short answer. Have you
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witnessed forced labor in Shenzhen? Yes or no? I work closely with Human Rights Watch where
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Researchers did witness it.
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So, thank you.
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Moments later, a Conservative MP took the floor and she raised an issue with Ma's questioning.
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Ms. McQuake-Johnson, I want to apologize for the member on the other side of the table.
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Point of order.
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Okay, colleagues, just one moment.
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I'm obviously in public being accused and I'd like an apology from the member from the other side.
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Okay, Mr. Ma, that would not be a point of order, and I don't...
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Well, give me evidence that there's any violation that requires an apology for me on my behalf.
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Ma's office sent a statement to defend his action, saying Michael used a quick burst of yes or no questions
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to move away from the anti-China EV witness, and then to give the floor to the pro-China EV witness.
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That was the strategy on paper.
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The CBC's Olivia Stefanovich caught up with Michael Ma literally on Parliament Hill just a short time ago.
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To challenge a witness on forced labor in China, do you believe there's forced labor in China?
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You do? Is that a yes, Mr. Ma?
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Sorry, I'm late for a meeting.
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Yes, but can you please explain your comments at the Industry Committee?
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I have no comment at this time.
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The Conservatives are making it seem like you don't care about forced labor in China or you don't believe in it.
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What do you think of that?
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Well, they like to exaggerate always.
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Was it really an exaggeration?
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Do you believe there is forced labor in China?
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I believe there are forced laborers all over the world.
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What about China specifically?
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Well, all over the world.
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But China specifically?
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Sorry, I need to write.
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As much as I despise the CB, credit where it's due, well done.
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This is what we expect from the news media.
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This is a disgraceful thing that Michael Ma did.
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and he shouldn't be in government anymore. He should be forced to resign his position
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and he needs to be investigated. But I'm wondering how many other liberals feel this way.
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I'm wondering if any liberals will condemn the Chinese government. I remember when this was a
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thing. This is less than a year ago. Well, we're in a security section. I think we didn't have a
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chance to talk about anything internationally. I think the biggest security threat to Canada is
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China. That was during the leaders debate just before the election last April. Do you think
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Carney would say that now? Not a chance. Do you think any liberal would say that now? Not a chance.
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Do you think any liberal would condemn the Chinese government for forced labor and say it just like
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that? Well, let's ask. I'm writing an email to every liberal MP in parliament, and here they are
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all right here. And at the bottom, I've got the other two floor crossers, Don Tremont and
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Generu. You can see them right there. Michael Ma is not on this list. We know how he feels.
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And your statement on forced labor camps in China, with the recent controversy surrounding
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comments by Liberal MP Michael Ma about forced labor camps in China, could you please tell me
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if you think the Chinese government uses forced labor? Will you condemn the Chinese government
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for this human rights abuse? And that's the question I'm going to ask every one of these
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liberal MPs. Will any of them get back to me on this? It will be interesting to find out. That
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will be very telling. I hope some of them will get back to me and I'll let you know if they do.
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Now, what about pure polyeth? You know, I say schadenfreude is my favorite word and it's a
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German word. Getting pleasure from other people's misfortune is basically what schadenfreude is.
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and you've got to think pure poly of his loving this right now i don't think he said anything i
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searched couldn't find anything any comments on what michael moss said but there's actually a
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saying napoleon said this never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying
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himself so it's going to be fascinating to see how this plays out over the next couple of days
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carney has said nothing he's hiding from the media he's not answering questions he's going to have to
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come out and comment on this. And all of the media needs to ask him the question, do you condemn
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the Chinese government for forced labor? And every MP in the Liberal Party must be asked the same
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question. And if you'd like to write your MP, you can do it as well. By the way, some people
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actually have a list of all the email addresses of all the Liberal MPs online, and you can check
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that out and send an email to all of them if you like as well. That's your choice. I'm not asking
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you to do it, but you could certainly do that yourself. So let me know what you think in the
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comments. I'm loving this. And you know, for those of you who think that the Conservative government
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would be better for Canada, it might be marginally better. Of course, I want Alberta
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independence. This is a ray of hope for you as we get closer to the 13th of April when there are
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three by-elections and the Liberals have a chance of getting a majority. If you like the video,
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give it a thumbs up, subscribe to the channel, ring the bell for notifications. I will see you
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