John Bolton - Jeff Rath - Confident independence is coming to Alberta

00:00:00.000 Hi, it's John, and welcome to the channel.

00:00:05.600 Friday, November the 7th.

00:00:06.880 I hope you're having a great start to your Friday, only a day away from the weekend.

00:00:11.000 And today, I'm excited to have a guest on with me.

00:00:13.720 I always like having people to interview.

00:00:15.520 And today, I'm interviewing somebody who's been on the channel before, somebody who speaks

00:00:19.960 on behalf of the independence movement here in Alberta.

00:00:23.420 As a matter of fact, when I was out on October 25th at the legislature in Edmonton as the

00:00:28.300 MC at the big independence rally, you know, I said, you got to hand it to the people

00:00:32.400 who are running around the province constantly out almost every night of the week, talking

00:00:38.100 to 100, 200, 300 people at a time about Alberta independence.

00:00:42.220 And that is certainly the case with my guest today.

00:00:45.020 He doesn't mince his words.

00:00:46.180 I want to talk to him a little bit about the upcoming UCP annual general meeting, which

00:00:51.440 is coming up at the end of November, the possibility of an independence vote in 2026.

00:00:57.860 And maybe his thoughts on how Daniel Smith is handling the situation.

00:01:02.440 He's a constitutional lawyer, general counsel on the Alberta Prosperity Project board.

00:01:08.380 I'd like to welcome Jeff Rath.

00:01:10.100 Jeff, thank you very much for being here.

00:01:12.720 Hey, John.

00:01:13.200 Thanks for having me on.

00:01:14.140 How are you?

00:01:14.840 I'm terrific.

00:01:15.780 Thank you.

00:01:16.140 It's really good to see you.

00:01:17.080 And I haven't actually, I've spoken to you obviously to set up this interview today,

00:01:21.000 but I haven't, haven't spoken to you since the independence rally back on the 25th of October.

00:01:26.540 I went back today and watched your speech.

00:01:30.240 And the first thing that really came out of your mouth was that it was the proudest moment

00:01:34.080 you've had as an Albertan.

00:01:35.520 How'd you feel that day when all those people were standing out there at the Alberta legislature?

00:01:39.160 Oh, I was just thrilled.

00:01:40.820 I mean, you know, it just really made it clear to me that we're going to win this referendum

00:01:45.200 and that Alberta is going to be free from Canada once and for all.

00:01:48.780 Like I can't even, I can't even tell you like how, you know, what a great feeling that

00:01:53.440 was to realize that we're going to win this and that Alberta is going to be, you know,

00:01:56.960 finally is going to be free to chart its own destiny.

00:01:59.620 And, uh, uh, and for all of us here in Alberta to have a future, you know?

00:02:04.720 Yeah.

00:02:05.300 You know, it's been, it's, you know, it's been five really, you know, really, really dark

00:02:09.020 years here, you know?

00:02:10.080 And I mean, and we're still in it.

00:02:11.740 I mean, 9% unemployment in Alberta right now, 20% youth unemployment.

00:02:15.720 I mean, the Liberals are succeeding in completely destroying this project or this, you know,

00:02:20.540 this province.

00:02:21.460 So, you know, the good news for us is that there's a free and independent country around

00:02:25.640 the corner just waiting for us where we're not going to have to pay federal income tax

00:02:29.820 anymore.

00:02:30.160 We're not going to have to pay GST.

00:02:32.380 We're not going to have to pay carbon tax.

00:02:34.400 We're not going to have to, you know, be dictated to, you know, by the whims of some,

00:02:39.060 you know, liberal politician in Ottawa getting instructions from the Ministry of State Security in China.

00:02:45.000 You know, I, I, I, like, I'm just, I'm so looking forward to finally being free.

00:02:51.180 You're that sure of it, are you?

00:02:53.280 Oh my God.

00:02:53.880 Like after that rally, I mean, how can anybody doubt it?

00:02:56.540 I mean, you know, like Conrad Black wrote an article recently, we think, you know, he

00:03:01.700 was wrong on a couple of key things.

00:03:03.240 Like one, he said that, you know, over the last four, you know, over the last number of

00:03:07.200 years, Alberta's paid $70 billion in transfer payments.

00:03:11.180 No, no, the number is $700 billion in transfer payments from Alberta to Canada.

00:03:18.140 You know, if we were to apply interest to that, you know, to that number, you know, Canada

00:03:23.060 owes Alberta about $3 trillion, right?

00:03:27.620 But anyway, leaving, leaving that aside, one of the comments that, you know, that Conrad made

00:03:32.900 was that, you know, currently the polling in Alberta, you know, you know, that he's seen

00:03:38.020 is 35% hard yes for independence, 35% hard no.

00:03:43.420 You know, we want to stay in Canada because we still harbor memories of the 72 series, you

00:03:50.280 know, like, you know, all these dear old folks that, you know, all these dear old folks with

00:03:53.840 their, you know, their warm, fuzzy memories of what Canada used to be as a country.

00:03:57.720 Yeah.

00:03:58.140 You know, so there's 35% of them, but there's 30% in the middle that are entirely persuadable.

00:04:03.680 And we know that we can persuade them because, I mean, we have a real message, you know, like

00:04:08.740 I said, no income tax, GST, carbon tax, a future for your kids, you know, deport everybody 0.98

00:04:14.740 in Alberta that's here on a, you know, international mobility program visa or a, you know, or a temporary

00:04:20.540 foreign worker visa, you know, that doesn't, you know, that actually, you know, that doesn't

00:04:24.820 actually have a job that cannot be done by an Albertan who's currently on the unemployment

00:04:29.960 line.

00:04:30.980 You know, like, I mean, it might lead to the closure of a hundred Tim Hortons, but quite

00:04:35.840 frankly, we, I think we can live without them and we can send Tim back to Toronto where

00:04:39.340 he belongs, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:04:42.360 Right.

00:04:42.620 I mean, right.

00:04:43.280 You know, we have, there's a bright future for Alberta, right.

00:04:46.320 And it starts simply with voting yes to a very simple question.

00:04:50.540 You know, do you agree that Alberta shall be a sovereign country and cease to be a province

00:04:54.860 in Canada?

00:04:55.600 I mean, it's a pretty straightforward question.

00:04:57.620 Even among the 35% that Conrad said are sort of sitting on the fence right now who aren't

00:05:01.940 decided on this.

00:05:02.960 Some of those could still change because we saw the budget the other day, but, you know,

00:05:07.100 I'm, I want to ask you a little bit about, I don't know, I watched the budget the other

00:05:11.940 day and I watched, I watched it with the eye of an Albertan and wondering what kind of

00:05:17.260 bone he was going to throw to Alberta.

00:05:18.680 He didn't really throw too much to us at all, other than dropping an emissions cap and saying

00:05:22.500 he was going to expand the carbon tax on industry here.

00:05:25.740 And I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on that.

00:05:28.120 Do you think there's any, any way at this point that Yael Smith can accept it?

00:05:32.660 It's just a despicable federal money grab, right?

00:05:36.240 So it's like, okay, well, we realized we could be making more money if we just took our boot

00:05:41.940 off of your throat a little bit, you know, so we're not going to completely stifle your

00:05:47.000 industry and, you know, completely prevent people from investing in your province.

00:05:53.040 But, you know, that being said, now that we've taken off this hard cap on emissions,

00:05:57.520 you know, we should get paid for that.

00:05:59.220 So we're going to, you know, we're going to increase the industrial carbon tax and really

00:06:03.380 screw you guys. 0.81

00:06:04.240 Like under those circumstances, who the hell wants to invest here? 0.99

00:06:07.360 Like one of the biggest things that Alberta can do for itself, you know, and I don't

00:06:11.880 know if I was talking about this at the rally or not, I've done so many speeches.

00:06:14.640 I feel like I forgot what I've been saying, but anyway.

00:06:17.320 I'll tell you, I watched it today.

00:06:18.540 But anyway, you know, one of the largest gas fields in the world is the Motney gas field

00:06:24.260 that straddles the BC-Alberta border.

00:06:26.700 It's recently been re-assayed at four and a half trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

00:06:33.980 Just let that sink in for a minute, four and a half trillion cubic feet.

00:06:38.840 There is enough gas in the Motney gas field to build giant co-generation plants.

00:06:44.360 A co-gen plant is a plant that uses natural gas, you know, to heat steam, to turn turbines,

00:06:49.220 to make electricity, right?

00:06:50.580 You know, we pioneered and perfected that technology in Alberta.

00:06:54.180 We could build a whole bunch of giant co-gen plants, right, to fire up a giant AI hub in,

00:07:01.100 you know, near Grand Prairie, which, you know, would make Alberta, you know,

00:07:04.460 literally the leader in the world in artificial intelligence, right?

00:07:08.260 And there's enough gas in the Motney gas field to fire up and, you know,

00:07:13.020 and supply energy to that AI hub for the next and the entire Alberta power grid

00:07:18.580 for the next thousand years, right?

00:07:21.140 But we can't attract the capital to this province to do it because every time you turn around, 0.97

00:07:26.160 the Liberals come up with some bullshit, you know, excuse as to why there's no business case

00:07:31.100 for the development of natural gas in the province of Alberta, right? 0.99

00:07:35.000 Right.

00:07:35.400 You know, and, you know, and I suppose the business case will be developed the minute,

00:07:40.020 you know, you know, minute, the minute Carney and Brookfield can figure out how it is that

00:07:44.900 they're going to get a monopoly on, you know, natural gas export from Alberta

00:07:48.860 and have Brookfield own everything so that every time an MCF gas comes out of the ground,

00:07:55.080 it runs through, you know, you know, some sort of, you know, Brookfield owned and controlled

00:07:59.620 pipeline, you know, into a Brookfield offshore bank account and then into Carney secret bank,

00:08:06.080 offshore bank accounts, you know, in the Caribbean, right?

00:08:09.660 Yeah.

00:08:09.780 But, you know, until they get that set up, you know, they're going to continue to sifle natural

00:08:14.840 gas production in Alberta and continue to drive other investment away from Alberta because

00:08:20.620 we all know that Brookfield's all about monopolies and, you know, and, you know, being the only

00:08:25.220 player in town, you know, which is why Carney, you know, passed Bill C-59 so that Carney is

00:08:31.440 the fascist dictator of Canada can determine, you know, what national, you know, what projects

00:08:36.480 are in the national interest, sole source contracts to companies that are friendly to

00:08:40.880 Brookfield and friendly to Carney, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:08:43.820 I mean, Carney is Mussolini on steroids, right?

00:08:47.640 So, you know, every time he does something, it can only benefit the Alberta independence

00:08:52.920 movement because we despise Mark Carney and what he's doing to our country, you know, what

00:08:59.480 he's done to Canada and what he's doing to Alberta.

00:09:02.880 You know, I did, I did a video the other day and, you know, I'd spoken to a number of

00:09:06.900 people in the independence movement and they said, we don't want to hate on Canada, but

00:09:09.980 I did a video the other day and said, I'm going here.

00:09:11.820 I said, I don't much like Canada anymore.

00:09:14.680 And I said, I don't like, one of the reasons is that we keep voting in these governments

00:09:18.680 that are damaging the province in the place I consider my country now, which is Alberta.

00:09:23.840 I'm just wondering if, if we leave though, how is it going to make it easier for us to

00:09:27.760 get, to get a natural gas pipeline or something, you know, over to, over to British Columbia

00:09:34.600 to the coast or something like that.

00:09:36.240 Can I be perfect?

00:09:37.120 Can I be blunt? 0.99

00:09:38.820 Who gives a shit? 0.99

00:09:40.080 Like who gives a shit? 0.99

00:09:41.440 90% of Alberta's trade right now is North and South. 0.98

00:09:44.740 90% of our trade goes into the U.S.

00:09:46.820 Yeah.

00:09:47.040 Right.

00:09:47.460 Yeah.

00:09:47.640 You know, and as far as it goes, you know, BC, you know, and all of their threats and 0.99

00:09:52.120 all of their nonsense, you know, we just need, you know, one or two more natural gas pipelines,

00:09:56.660 you know, south, you know, to the Gulf coast of Texas or an oil pipeline and a gas pipeline,

00:10:02.500 you know, through, you know, through Idaho, you know, into Port Wash or, you know, Port

00:10:07.040 Wash or, or the port of Seattle to the Pacific.

00:10:11.400 And we'll, you know, and we'll be fine.

00:10:13.540 Thank you very much.

00:10:14.720 I mean, I saw the other day, David Evie was posing with, you know, the leaders of Haida

00:10:19.460 Gwaii and there won't be no Alberta pipelines, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:23.160 Right. 0.98

00:10:23.720 So, you know, as far as I'm concerned, screw them.

00:10:26.580 Like they don't want our pipelines fine.

00:10:28.280 We'll declare ourselves independent.

00:10:30.020 We'll put all, you know, we'll build five new pipelines south.

00:10:32.780 Right.

00:10:33.480 And, you know, we'll develop our own industry and our own natural gas.

00:10:36.640 And British Columbia, every truck, every train, everything moving $17 billion worth of your

00:10:42.500 goods east to Ontario is going to be stopped at the Alberta border.

00:10:46.220 We're a rat-free province.

00:10:47.900 We're very proud of our status as a rat-free province. 0.65

00:10:51.040 We're going to search every truck for rats coming out of Vancouver.

00:10:54.540 You know, we're going to, you know, put a value on all of the goods that are being transported.

00:10:58.560 We'll put a tariff on those goods.

00:11:00.500 And then you can maybe think about, you know, what you did to yourselves by screwing us on,

00:11:05.140 you know, a couple of additional pipelines to the West Coast.

00:11:08.580 You know, I mean, you know, like all of this stuff cuts both ways.

00:11:12.100 I mean, you're all with Alberta's landlocked.

00:11:14.060 It's like, you know, we have much better relations right now with, you know, the Trump

00:11:20.960 administration and with the U.S. government than we have with Ottawa.

00:11:24.420 You know, the U.S. government is willing to talk to us.

00:11:27.960 Yeah, you made that point at the independence rally as well.

00:11:30.800 And I think there's actually international law saying that landlocked countries, Alberta

00:11:35.020 would be a new country, have to be given some type of access to ports or to the sea or to

00:11:41.580 a place where they can ship out.

00:11:43.280 Yeah, absolutely.

00:11:44.000 I believe that's the case.

00:11:45.060 And we would, right.

00:11:47.020 And we'd negotiate those pipelines to go through the United States to, you know, to the West

00:11:51.660 Coast of Washington State.

00:11:53.500 And to hell with British Columbia.

00:11:54.780 You don't want our jobs.

00:11:55.660 You don't want our industry.

00:11:56.720 You don't want our money. 1.00

00:11:57.780 To hell with you. 1.00

00:11:58.500 Right. 1.00

00:11:59.480 And you can, you know, and, you know, B.C. can basically be stuck out on the left coast

00:12:03.960 of Canada trying to find, scrambling to find new markets for its goods and its products

00:12:09.200 because Alberta won't be buying any more of them. 0.64

00:12:12.620 And there'll be a tariff on everything coming out of British Columbia, you know, moving,

00:12:16.680 you know, moving east.

00:12:18.280 You know, if they want to play the way they want to play.

00:12:20.600 Personally, in my heart of hearts, and I think, you know, as a responsible adult, you

00:12:24.260 know, my feeling is that sooner or later, rationality is going to have to, you know, reimpose

00:12:29.940 itself on the discussion. 1.00

00:12:31.880 Idiots like David Evie, right, who's now posturing it. 1.00

00:12:35.540 It'll go over my dead body. 1.00

00:12:37.420 Will there be another Alberta pipeline through British Columbia?

00:12:40.440 And, you know, and Legault, you know, like, oh, we don't want no stinky pipelines.

00:12:45.080 Blah, blah, blah, like, you know, like, rationality is going to have to reimpose itself at some

00:12:51.440 point.

00:12:52.040 But, you know, when we demonstrate to Canada that, you know, that we can completely replace

00:12:56.820 all of our trade with Canada by simply increasing the amount of trade that we have with the United

00:13:01.820 States, which would be welcomed by the United States and say, you know, fine, Canada, we

00:13:07.780 won't do any more business with you.

00:13:09.180 We have a really nice free trade agreement with the U.S. that says that, you know, 100%

00:13:16.120 of all goods and services on both sides of the Alberta U.S. border will now move back

00:13:20.740 and forth across that border with zero tariffs, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:13:25.020 And we will have complete access to U.S. markets.

00:13:27.680 The U.S. will have a complete act, you know, we'll have complete access to the Alberta market.

00:13:31.480 You know, we'll welcome U.S. financial institutions with open arms, you know, et cetera, et

00:13:37.960 cetera.

00:13:38.620 I mean, it's going to be it's going to be a wonderful new world in Alberta.

00:13:43.120 I've said here on my channel many times, if you don't want to be part of the prosperity

00:13:47.260 and help with the prosperity in this country, why should you benefit from Alberta's prosperity?

00:13:51.880 Because we put so much into the country and get so little out of it.

00:13:55.500 I do want to ask you about this, though.

00:13:57.120 You said that you were very confident that we would get independence here in the province.

00:14:02.460 Of course, there's been talk about this Forever Canadian petition that was put out by

00:14:07.000 Thomas Lukasik.

00:14:08.120 It was mentioned a few times at the independence rally, and there's been talk that this may

00:14:12.500 trigger an independence vote as a constitutional lawyer.

00:14:15.960 Is that possible at all?

00:14:17.440 I mean, I think the question might have to be rephrased.

00:14:20.400 But did he trigger?

00:14:21.480 No, it's pretty funny, right?

00:14:23.540 Like, yeah, well, little Tommy nothing burger, as we now call him.

00:14:27.520 And we call him little Tommy nothing burger because Justice Feesby in the referendum case that

00:14:32.420 I'm in front of the court in, you know, literally said that, you know, Tommy's referendum petition

00:14:38.620 question is a legally irrelevant.

00:14:40.560 Nothing burger.

00:14:41.660 You know, do you think that Alberta shall remain in Canada?

00:14:44.640 Yes or no.

00:14:45.800 Right.

00:14:46.040 It's a poll question.

00:14:46.900 You know, yeah, it's like on top of it, it's like, it's a policy question.

00:14:52.860 It's, you know, it's a question on the order of, do you think Alberta should continue to

00:14:58.600 be called Alberta?

00:14:59.600 Yes or no? 0.94

00:15:00.320 I mean, it's kind of a dumb question when it comes right down to it.

00:15:03.300 It doesn't comply with the Clarity Act because the Clarity Act section one sub three.

00:15:09.400 So, you know, one bracket three of the Clarity Act says clearly, you know, that, you know,

00:15:13.840 a question triggering, you know, independence, you know, under the Clarity Act must state that

00:15:20.120 the province wishes to cease to be part of Canada and become an independent state.

00:15:25.600 Those are the exact words of section one sub three of the Clarity Act.

00:15:29.260 So, you know, Danielle has the potential to take, to go to Mr. Lukasik and his people

00:15:35.540 and say, hey, thank you very much.

00:15:37.060 Thanks for showing us that 436,000 Albertans wanted a separatist referendum.

00:15:42.640 Because don't forget, I mean, a lot of people, you know, Lukasik, you know, postures around

00:15:46.740 Alberta and, you know, and, you know, and pretends that, you know, stands up on his little

00:15:52.940 soapbox so he can be as tall as everybody else.

00:15:55.500 And then, you know, and tries to claim that his referendum question was the actual referendum

00:16:02.340 and that it was a poll on independence.

00:16:04.480 And then he got 436,000 people to support Alberta staying in Canada.

00:16:09.920 That's a lie, right?

00:16:11.280 Like everything that comes out of Tommy Lukasik's mouth, it's a, you know, it's a lie, right?

00:16:15.340 So what he got was 436,000 people, including a lot of Donald Ducks and Mickey Mouses and,

00:16:21.820 you know, all kinds of other fake names and whatever else, right?

00:16:25.260 Because they weren't checking IDs, you know, got a whole bunch of, you know, a bunch of

00:16:28.900 alleged signatures, you know, for the idea that there would be a referendum vote on that

00:16:36.500 question, which Daniel Smith rightly says is a, you know, is a separatist question.

00:16:41.460 Because if everybody votes no, then where does that leave you?

00:16:44.680 Other than you've now had a referendum, you know, on a policy perspective, you know, indicating

00:16:49.900 that, you know, that a majority of Albertans want to leave, you know, don't want to remain

00:16:54.280 in Canada.

00:16:55.000 So then we have to have another referendum, you know, with a question that complies with

00:16:59.940 section one, sub three of the Clarity Act.

00:17:02.000 Tommy did that on purpose, right?

00:17:04.140 Yeah.

00:17:04.280 They didn't want to have a question that would comply with the Clarity Act and could actually

00:17:08.240 trigger, you know, Alberta leaving Canada, right?

00:17:11.840 So, you know, they've been lying to people, they've been scamming people, they've been,

00:17:16.140 you know, fraudulently obtaining, you know, people's personal information, you know, on

00:17:20.840 these petition sheets for purposes other than holding a referendum.

00:17:24.900 Because now, Tommy, believe it or not, after all of this, and even though his application

00:17:28.700 to Elections Alberta said, you know, you know, that we're going to, we want to have a

00:17:33.480 referendum on this question, he's now backpedaling, you know, and saying that, oh, no, no, no,

00:17:38.620 no, we never intended to have a referendum.

00:17:40.660 And, you know, and I, you know, I think that he should be investigated, frankly, right?

00:17:45.820 Either by Elections Alberta or the RCMP, right?

00:17:49.580 Because in effect, he gaslit 436,000 people trying to get them, you know, getting them

00:17:55.420 to sign a, you know, a petition to have a referendum.

00:17:59.000 And now he's saying he doesn't want to have a referendum.

00:18:01.480 Well, I'm stunned.

00:18:02.580 I wrote, I wrote a letter to Gordon McClure, the chief electoral officer of Alberta, and

00:18:06.320 asked him why he even greenlit this in the first place.

00:18:08.700 If the outcome of a referendum is the same, regardless of how you vote, why have the

00:18:13.600 referendum?

00:18:14.180 Why waste the time?

00:18:15.040 Why waste the money?

00:18:16.420 Why put people through this process if it means absolutely nothing?

00:18:20.560 So the question, I guess, again, is would this trigger, maybe, because I want to move

00:18:23.760 on here, because, but would this trigger?

00:18:26.220 Is it possible that this, this petition from Lukasik is a major fail?

00:18:31.240 And this could trigger our independence vote.

00:18:34.580 Oh, absolutely.

00:18:35.360 I mean, section one, section one of the Alberta Referendum Act leaves the discretion to call

00:18:41.540 a referendum on, you know, in, you know, on any constitutional issue with the lieutenant

00:18:47.060 governor and counsel.

00:18:48.100 That's, you know, effectively Danielle and her cabinet, right? 0.98

00:18:51.140 Yeah.

00:18:51.380 All right.

00:18:51.600 So they have the power under the Referendum Act to basically say, thank you, little Tommy,

00:18:56.600 for showing us that 436,000 Albertans want to have a separatist referendum. 0.94

00:19:02.300 But we're not going to use your question, because your question is dumb, because it doesn't 0.90

00:19:07.700 comply with the Clarity Act. 0.89

00:19:09.080 So we're not going to spend $20 million on a referendum on a non-compliant question.

00:19:13.320 So just so there's no controversy, we'll take the wording directly out of the Clarity Act,

00:19:19.680 which is, do you agree that Alberta shall cease to be a province of Canada and become

00:19:23.620 an independent state and run with that question?

00:19:27.240 And I mean, just for, you know, just for giggles the other night, I posted a poll, or the other

00:19:32.200 day, I posted a poll on Twitter asking, or on X, asking that question, right?

00:19:37.040 And we were running about 80% yes, up until the last hour, when I think a whole bunch of

00:19:43.620 the Forever Canadians, you know, figured out that, you know, like 80%, you know, 80% of

00:19:48.800 5,500 people, you know, were going to vote yes, in favor of independence.

00:19:54.760 So a whole bunch of old people bailed in at the last minute.

00:19:58.400 And I can tell they're old people, because I follow the, the analytics on my Twitter, on 0.99

00:20:02.400 my, on my X account, right?

00:20:04.280 Yeah.

00:20:04.420 So a whole bunch of old people, which must have been Forever Canadians, you know, basically 1.00

00:20:08.940 you have 2000 votes in the last hour that are, you know, that shifted the percentage

00:20:14.460 in favor of independence to 53% to 47%, right?

00:20:21.500 But 24 hours, we still won the poll, 53% of the, you know, 66,576 people, you know, favored

00:20:29.980 independence, right?

00:20:31.500 Wanted, you know, vote yes to that question, right?

00:20:34.460 And I think that's a really strong indication of where Albertans are at.

00:20:38.440 You, you brought up Daniel Smith at the independence rally, while you were speaking, if people watch

00:20:42.760 the video, you'll see me walk up and I put something on the podium for you.

00:20:46.360 Mitch Sylvester was standing there and he said, John, come here.

00:20:49.640 And he, I walked over to him.

00:20:51.040 He had a piece of paper and he wrote AGM on there.

00:20:53.760 And I walked up and he said, he'll know what this means.

00:20:56.560 That's what he said.

00:20:57.280 So I walked up and I just slid that out in front of you.

00:21:01.220 And at the end, you talked about the AGM.

00:21:03.180 Well, the AGM would be the United Conservative Party AGM coming up on the 28th and 29th of

00:21:07.660 this month.

00:21:09.140 And what is going to happen here?

00:21:12.900 What are you expecting to go on here?

00:21:14.820 You went on to tell people to get a membership to the UCP, get a ticket to go to this.

00:21:21.660 And what do you want them to do if they do that?

00:21:23.860 And they've got until midnight tomorrow night to sign up, by the way.

00:21:26.740 Midnight tomorrow night.

00:21:27.980 I'm sorry, tonight, because the video is happening on Friday.

00:21:30.320 Pardon me.

00:21:30.620 Yeah, no, we want them to go to the AGM and vote all of Danielle Smith's pet directors 0.99

00:21:36.900 out of office, right?

00:21:38.660 Like, she has a little cabal on the provincial board, right?

00:21:42.960 That do not, even though 70% of the party membership supports independence, right?

00:21:49.100 Yeah.

00:21:49.340 She's got 50% of the board voting against independence because she's telling them to, right? 0.79

00:21:54.640 The other day, Danielle Smith actually brought a motion to the provincial board, right?

00:21:59.360 To muzzle all talk of independence at the AGM, prohibiting any, you know, any resolutions

00:22:06.640 to come to the floor in favor of independence, prohibiting any debate on independence on the

00:22:11.040 floor of the AGM.

00:22:12.540 You know, I've heard from sources on the board that we can't have Mitch Sylvester take over

00:22:17.300 the AGM for three years in a row.

00:22:19.420 And that was basically coming from Danielle Smith, you know, and blah, blah, blah.

00:22:23.240 We don't, you know, we don't need to have this at the AGM and this is not unifying for

00:22:27.120 the party and blah, blah, blah, right?

00:22:29.000 So what we're saying is we need to have this discussion.

00:22:32.500 Like, in fact, I think Danielle is violating and has violated her fiduciary obligations to 1.00

00:22:37.900 the citizens of Alberta because, you know, it's looking now like not only is there going

00:22:42.480 to be a referendum in favor of independence, but that it's going to succeed, right?

00:22:46.760 So why has she not initiated or, you know, or put together or named a minister of independence

00:22:54.980 preparedness?

00:22:55.660 Like, why don't we have a ministry in the government getting ready for Alberta to become

00:23:00.760 an independent country?

00:23:02.260 Because that's the path we're on now, right?

00:23:04.720 This was actually proposed by a former political science professor of mine, Leon Craig, who

00:23:09.840 I really, really, really admired and enjoyed when I was doing my honors political science

00:23:15.520 degree at the University of Alberta.

00:23:16.900 And he wrote an open letter to Jason Kenney about six years ago asking Kenney this question. 0.99

00:23:22.500 Like, you guys keep writing these stupid firewall letters and we all know that Alberta is getting 1.00

00:23:27.220 completely raped by the rest of Canada. 1.00

00:23:29.960 You know, we're being completely screwed over every time we turn around. 1.00

00:23:33.420 You know, the only way forward for Alberta is to get the hell out of Canada. 0.89

00:23:37.560 Why?

00:23:38.040 You know, if you want to send a message to Canada and let them know that you're serious, you

00:23:41.800 know, you need to appoint a minister of independence preparedness, right?

00:23:47.180 Right.

00:23:47.420 And, you know, our question for Danielle, and we're going to have people lining up at the

00:23:50.800 bear pit sessions, the premier accountability, you know, sessions at the AGM.

00:23:55.540 And first of all, asking her why she thinks it's appropriate as the premier of the province

00:24:00.620 to bully the provincial board into muzzling her base and muzzling her membership, right?

00:24:06.940 You know, she's our mummy and she's telling us what we're not allowed to talk about at the

00:24:11.420 dinner table, right?

00:24:12.980 This is despicable.

00:24:14.340 I mean, it's, you know, it's completely out of line with her role as premier.

00:24:17.800 It's out of line as her role as party leader.

00:24:20.200 She is not the boss of us. 0.98

00:24:22.160 We're the boss of her. 1.00

00:24:23.260 Like she's supposed to be taking her direction from the membership, but instead she's constantly

00:24:28.360 playing all of these silly little games to make sure that the wishes of the membership

00:24:33.660 for independence are thwarted on an ongoing basis, right?

00:24:37.680 Like the whole, you know, the whole what's next scam, you know, scam that she was engaged 1.00

00:24:42.520 in is the same thing.

00:24:44.900 Every single thing she was talking about at the what next panel, pension, policing, taxation,

00:24:50.380 you name it, all of it can be fixed with one vote on, we don't need six referenda, you 0.83

00:24:56.640 know, on all of her silly issues.

00:24:58.340 We need one vote on independence and the rest of it follows as surely as night follows day. 0.89

00:25:03.500 Right?

00:25:04.220 She's certainly got a lot of pressure on her. 1.00

00:25:05.880 So I'm not saying you're ambushing her because certainly you're letting her know up front

00:25:09.580 that you're going to be there to talk about these issues.

00:25:12.160 Um, I was listening to Corey Morgan on his, on his, um, uh, show on the Western standard

00:25:18.580 yesterday.

00:25:18.880 He said, you know, she should just call an independence vote, get, get it out of the 0.99

00:25:22.200 way.

00:25:23.200 Um, because all this pressure is going to be coming down on her from her own party. 0.96

00:25:27.580 It could, it could destroy the United conservative party.

00:25:31.060 Well, she's certainly losing her base and you know, everybody needs to remember what happens

00:25:36.040 when, you know, getting impatient, Jeff, I'm getting impatient here.

00:25:39.040 I really am.

00:25:39.640 Oh no, we all are, John, that's, that's the whole problem.

00:25:42.400 Right.

00:25:43.120 And I mean, you know, and at the end of the day, I mean, Jason, Kenny, after, you know, 0.98

00:25:46.280 like just before we threw him out on his ass, you know, it was like, Oh, well, this is the 0.99

00:25:50.920 base of the conservative party. 1.00

00:25:52.400 I want a new base.

00:25:53.560 It's like, yeah, okay, Kenny, well, you're fired and you can go join the NDP and have a

00:25:57.960 new base, right? 0.67

00:25:58.980 If that's, you know, if that's where you're at, you want to be a whiny little, you know, 0.92

00:26:02.480 you know, you know, you want to, you know, you want to be a whiny little baby, right? 0.93

00:26:06.080 Yeah.

00:26:06.280 You know, go join the NDP with Tommy Lucas.

00:26:08.940 Right.

00:26:10.080 You know, but I mean, the reality, the reality of it is that, you know, and again, independence

00:26:14.560 is not a partisan issue, right?

00:26:17.100 Everybody, like every teacher, every doctor, every nurse, every fireman, every, you know,

00:26:22.160 every frontline worker will benefit from no longer having to pay federal income tax.

00:26:28.300 You know, the day Alberta becomes independent, everybody's take home pay is going to go up

00:26:32.720 by 33%, right?

00:26:35.080 Teachers are concerned about, you know, the fact that they've got so many students in

00:26:39.360 their classrooms that they have to cater to that, you know, that are ESL students, like

00:26:44.000 English is a second language.

00:26:45.320 They don't speak English, right?

00:26:46.780 Well, all of the people that are here on international mobility program visas, all of the people that

00:26:51.920 are here on a temporary foreign worker visas, unless they absolutely can't be, they can prove 0.98

00:26:57.700 that they can't be replaced by an Albertan that's currently unemployed.

00:27:00.960 Like, all of them need to be deported.

00:27:03.060 You know, give them 1,500 bucks and a plane ticket to Ottawa and tell Ottawa to resettle

00:27:07.540 them somewhere because we don't need them here.

00:27:10.140 You know, like at 9% unemployment, why are you sending us more foreign workers?

00:27:14.000 We don't need them.

00:27:14.720 We don't want them.

00:27:16.120 You know, we don't have classrooms for them.

00:27:17.880 We don't have hospitals for them.

00:27:19.060 We don't have water for them.

00:27:20.340 We don't have electricity for them.

00:27:21.740 We don't have housing for them.

00:27:22.940 We don't have jobs for them.

00:27:24.540 Why are you sending them here?

00:27:26.580 Send them back to Ottawa where they belong and then let Ottawa deal with it.

00:27:30.080 I mean, you know, you think they had a problem with the convoy, you know, wait until plane

00:27:34.420 load after plane load after plane load of foreign workers start arriving in, you know, 0.51

00:27:38.960 in Ottawa looking for a place to stay.

00:27:41.640 You know, due to Ottawa, what they've been doing, you know, doing to Calgary and Edmonton

00:27:44.980 for the last 10 years.

00:27:46.580 Zoom makes a mess of this, but this is the value of freedom I'm holding here in my hand.

00:27:50.920 You told people to download this.

00:27:53.100 All the statistics and the things you're talking about here are all in here and costed out.

00:27:56.840 So if anybody wants to get this, be sure to pick this up at the APP website.

00:28:01.300 We'll put a link in the description so people can do that.

00:28:03.720 I'm getting short on time here, Jeff, but I wanted to ask you who, what does the APP

00:28:09.300 support when it comes up to the general meeting and the board of directors president?

00:28:13.980 Who are you, who are you backing?

00:28:15.120 Well, we're all, we're all supporting, we're supporting Daryl Comet.

00:28:17.560 And I, you know, I, and I don't do that lightly because I really like Rob Smith.

00:28:20.800 I think Rob Smith is, you know, has been a really, really decent guy and a really decent

00:28:24.920 president, but, you know, he proved the other night when he broke the tie, because the board

00:28:30.080 split 50-50 on the issue of whether we were going to, they were going to let Danielle muzzle

00:28:35.220 us at the AGM this year and not allow any talk of independence, right?

00:28:40.380 You know, the board split 50-50 on the base, on the question of whether or not they were

00:28:44.680 going to allow Danielle to bully her base into silence at the AGM.

00:28:49.060 And then Rob, you know, cast the tying vote in favor of Danielle, because of course, every

00:28:55.280 party, you know, like apparently wants to be one of those party presidents that knows

00:28:58.860 what side of the bread, you know, the butter's on and, you know, and, you know, and went with

00:29:03.760 Danielle.

00:29:04.680 And of course, we, our feeling is we need a party president that is not a lapdog to Danielle

00:29:11.220 Smith.

00:29:11.660 We need somebody that has the guts to stand up to her and say, Danielle, like the base aren't

00:29:16.020 going to tolerate this, Danielle, you know, even though Rob Anderson is telling you to

00:29:19.820 do this, it's not a good idea.

00:29:22.160 Rob Anderson has lost his way.

00:29:24.240 You know, you guys are out of touch with the party base.

00:29:26.640 You need to get back in, you want to win an election in 2027.

00:29:29.980 You're not going to win it pandering to the, you know, the NDP and the NDP voters, because

00:29:34.900 they're never going to vote for you, right?

00:29:37.640 You know, get your head out, you know, get your, you know, get your head out of the sand and

00:29:41.420 realize that the only way forward is by embracing your base and embracing what they want, which

00:29:46.780 is a free and independent Alberta, right?

00:29:49.620 But, you know, I mean, that's where we're at.

00:29:51.500 We'll see where the, you know, the chips fall where they may.

00:29:53.800 It's going to be an interesting annual general meeting this year.

00:29:57.760 You know, we're hoping that we have the votes to basically, you know, get, you know, to recapture

00:30:02.660 the entire provincial board.

00:30:04.160 But again, dirty tricks are afoot.

00:30:05.860 You know, Danielle has paid organizers to, you know, to oust pro-independence CAs and 0.92

00:30:12.320 replace entire CA boards.

00:30:14.400 They just, you know, they literally just fired an entire board and president from Sherwood

00:30:20.020 Park because they were pro-independence.

00:30:22.520 And, you know, Danielle wanted, you know, wanted lap dogs, you know, in that constituency 0.99

00:30:26.880 association, you know, so, you know, you know, the game, you know, as Conan Doyle used to

00:30:31.480 say, the game is afoot and we'll see where we go.

00:30:34.000 But it's not pretty, you know, it's ugly.

00:30:35.960 I mean, the tactics that Danielle is employing right now are, you know, are Jason Kenney 0.96

00:30:40.040 tactics.

00:30:40.660 They're sleazy, underhanded, you know, slimy tactics.

00:30:44.880 And, you know, we would have all hoped that she was better than that, but apparently not.

00:30:48.980 That might be the title of this video.

00:30:50.700 Danielle, sleazy, slimy, underhanded tactics. 1.00

00:30:54.640 I might use that.

00:30:57.220 She's trying to avoid discussion about the independence movement at the AGM, but you're not going to

00:31:02.920 allow that to happen.

00:31:04.160 No, I mean, well, you know, she's trying to, it's not having discussion about the movement

00:31:08.160 because she knows her base is the movement.

00:31:11.200 75, you know, 70 to 75% of her base favor independence, right? 0.94

00:31:15.800 She's trying to muzzle and stifle any discussion of independence itself at the AGM because heaven

00:31:22.580 forbid that we would be allowed to vote on a, you know, on a motion, you know, to, you know,

00:31:29.000 to clarify the fact that the United Conservative Party of Alberta, you know, favors independence

00:31:34.400 from Canada.

00:31:35.640 Like she's doing everything she can to prevent that from happening.

00:31:39.020 And as far as I'm concerned, the way she's going about it is completely anti-democratic

00:31:43.360 and she's thumbing, she's thumbing her nose at the people that elected her. 1.00

00:31:47.160 Because again, let's not forget, right?

00:31:49.000 You know, Travis Tabes was a Jason Kenney candidate.

00:31:51.840 So all the people that voted for him were, you know, were, you know, federalists, right?

00:31:56.660 Ray Jan Swanee is about as left-wing as you can get in the UCP without joining the NDP.

00:32:03.020 You know, all of her, the people that voted for her certainly, you know, would not have

00:32:08.420 been pro-independence.

00:32:09.800 Brian Jean ran on the fact that he was the only one that had the guts to go to an APP 1.00

00:32:14.680 forum, call us all a bunch of idiots to our faces, say that independence was never going 1.00

00:32:20.000 to happen and it would be over his dead body as leader of the party. 1.00

00:32:23.400 So none of the people supporting Brian Jean, right, supported independence, right?

00:32:28.760 So basically, you know, the only two candidates left, Danielle Smith and Todd Lowen, all of

00:32:36.140 the people, or I'd say 90% of the people voting for them were in favor of independence.

00:32:41.680 So, I mean, Danielle's really forgotten about the fact that she was elected by a base of the

00:32:47.700 Conservative Party that want out of Canada. 0.95

00:32:50.460 And she, every day that goes by when she puts on her silly little red blazer and her 0.99

00:32:55.000 white shirt and dresses up like the Canadian flag and says, strong Alberta within a United

00:33:00.180 Canada, you know, she's making it clear that she wants all of us to have to keep paying

00:33:05.200 federal income tax, keep paying carbon tax, keep paying GST, keep having our guns taken

00:33:11.920 away by Ottawa, all of it.

00:33:14.280 You know, when she says that, that's what she favors. 1.00

00:33:16.360 She can pretend all she wants, and it's the same thing on the recent decision from the

00:33:20.560 Supreme Court, right?

00:33:22.220 You know, people in this province are scandalized that a majority of the Supreme Court, you know,

00:33:26.700 didn't leave the, you know, didn't give Ottawa a year to fix the legislation like they normally

00:33:31.260 do.

00:33:32.420 You know, tell them, look, you need to carve out an exception for 18-year-old kids who 0.95

00:33:36.960 are having, you know, 17-year-old girls send pictures to them without their consent or

00:33:42.100 whatever.

00:33:42.460 No, but, you know, this is kind of the reasoning that the Supreme Court was using, you know,

00:33:45.940 they could have easily done that.

00:33:47.280 But instead, you know, a really despicable pedophile who had literally had pictures on

00:33:53.840 his, you know, devices of children being, you know, like young children, three, four, 0.97

00:33:58.780 five-year-old children being viciously raped.

00:34:01.700 You know, the Supreme Court said, oh, no, you know, we can't have, you know, we can't have

00:34:05.880 a minimum of a year in jail for this person.

00:34:08.580 Right.

00:34:08.700 And, you know, and so Danielle's going, I'm outraged and this is horrible and blah, blah,

00:34:13.140 blah.

00:34:13.620 Invoke the notwithstanding clause.

00:34:15.400 Well, I'll tell you what, Danielle, if you want to stop this kind of nonsense, you know,

00:34:19.240 the quickest way and cleanest way forward is for Alberta to become independent.

00:34:23.420 And then we could follow along with what Governor DeSantis is doing in Florida and bring in the

00:34:28.980 death penalty in Alberta for, you know, anybody raping a child under the age of 12.

00:34:33.880 Well, Jeff, I'm going to have to cut us off there because I'm going to, the video is going

00:34:37.080 to end here in a second.

00:34:38.100 I'm kind of limited by Zoom.

00:34:39.900 It's always a pleasure to talk to you.

00:34:41.900 And it's going to be interesting to see what happens at the end of November or maybe before

00:34:46.440 the end of November.

00:34:47.840 Yeah, there's lots going on, John.

00:34:49.600 I'm happy to come back whenever you want me or whenever you need me to come on.

00:34:54.700 You know, and again, I just want people to focus on how much better off we are going

00:34:58.420 to be in a free and independent Alberta.

00:35:01.000 And again, I think it's midnight.

00:35:03.940 Well, tomorrow, I guess this is going to be, by the time this is aired, the deadline will

00:35:07.600 have passed to buy a UCP membership to come join us at the AGM and vote.

00:35:11.940 But you can still buy observer tickets.

00:35:14.060 You can still come down and support the cause.

00:35:17.720 So I hope to see all of you with the UCP AGM this year and, you know, and help us hold

00:35:23.500 Danielle accountable and encourage her to support a free and independent Alberta.

00:35:30.240 For sure.

00:35:30.780 This video is running the morning of November 7th.

00:35:33.840 You've got until November 7th at 11.59 p.m. to sign up.

00:35:37.660 So Jeff, got to leave it there.

00:35:39.300 Thank you so much.

00:35:39.940 We'll have you back on again soon.

00:35:41.520 There's so much to talk about.

00:35:42.760 I appreciate it very much.

00:35:44.100 Yeah, you bet, John.

00:35:45.020 Thanks for having me on.

00:35:45.880 If you like the video, please give this a thumbs up.

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John Bolton - November 07, 2025

Jeff Rath - Confident independence is coming to Alberta

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