Jeff Rath Stands TALL in Defence of Alberta Independence (FALSE allegations)
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In this episode, John and Jeff discuss a recent article written by Stephen Sandor of the Edmonton Journal, " Alberta's Anti-Racism Watchdog Fields Complaint Arising from Immigration Comments at Separatist Town Hall."
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Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. Great to have you along today. This video
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going up on Thursday, January the 22nd. We're recording this on the 21st of January here
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with the big blue mug of coffee. And although it looks like I'm at Two Jack Lake, just outside
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Banff, I am still in Panama right now, heading back to my home, to my country of Alberta
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on Thursday. Looking forward to it. And a very familiar face on the channel with us, very
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familiar face across Alberta. Jeff Rapp is joining me today. Jeff, always a pleasure to
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talk to you. Nice to talk to you from Panama today. Well, fantastic. I'm really pleased
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to be on your program this morning, John. Thanks for having me. Well, I watched my email come
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in this morning. I really enjoy your The Road to Freedom on Substack. I get an occasional
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email from you on this. And it's regarding an article that I read, I think, just last
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weekend that when I read the headline, I was a little bit concerned about it. And you have
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commented on an article titled, Alberta's Anti-Racism Watchdog Fields Complaint Arising
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from Immigration Comments at Separatist Town Hall, written by Stephen Sandor of the Edmonton
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Journal. I believe it was picked up in the National Post as well. Your substack today, Post
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media, new slogan, Alberta independence, all the fake news that's been to print. And I
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think when I read the article initially, Jeff, I was concerned about it. But then I started
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to think about it. And I started to think about the word context. And I think that's what you
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really refer to in your article today. When you saw this article, what were you thinking
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right off the bat? Well, I just I kind of laugh at those articles, because again, it's just
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an example of all these left wing borderline communist reporters at the Edmonton Journal
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that have a, you know, that literally have this agenda that we terrify them. Alberta independence
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terrifies them. So they're doing everything they can to tear us down with these really
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slanted propaganda pieces. They're like one sided hit pieces with zero context whatsoever,
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where, you know, it's this hysterical, he's a racist, he's a homophobe, he's a this, he's
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a that he's a white supremacist, he's a white nationalist. I mean, good God, they're trying
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to make Mitch Sylvester, a Franco-Albertan Catholic out to be a white Christian nationalist
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complete with Aryan Nations banner, and nothing could be further from the truth. You know, he
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wasn't talking about white supremacy. He was just saying, like, you know, in the context
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of, you know, everything that's going on is that nobody, nobody, and I don't care if you're,
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you know, black, yellow, purple, you know, for where you're from, nobody should be forced
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to apologize for their skin color. You know, and that's what Mitch was commenting on is
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that quite often, you know, with all these hit pieces that are being written, oh, the
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rooms of supporters are largely white, you know, like, as if that somehow delegitimizes
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the independence movement. And again, it's not true. Like we saw reporters on the weekend
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in Okotoks, with a camera crew there. And my organizers were telling me, our organizers
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were telling me that they were literally skipping over all the Filipinos, all the Chinese people,
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all the black people in line, because it doesn't tell the story they want to tell.
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So it's pretty good, if you have a camera, don't skip over. And of course, the reason
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the Filipinos, the Filipino community is coming out in force now in support of Alberta independence,
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they know what Chinese communism looks like, right? So when Mark Carney proudly announced, or
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proudly, I think he looked like he was on scopolamine, the new world order, right?
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Yeah. You know, when Carney, you know, Carney issued his, whether it was drugged or not drugged
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statement about the road to communism with this new strategic alliance with China leading to a new
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world order, that terrified the Alberta Filipino community. And I, you know, hearing from our organizers
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in Okotoks that literally hundreds of Filipinos were coming out to sign the petition because they
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don't want to be part of communist China. You know, I, the, the quote that was in the article
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by Sandor in the journal, um, it said this old stock, white Canadians. And this is apparently what
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Mitch said, old stock, white Canadians, and that's us. And we don't have to apologize for this room
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being filled with white people. This used to be what Alberta was. We're not apologizing for being
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ourselves. And again, context is important there because for people who don't understand what's going
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on with this movement, if you go on X and you'll see people who are against us posting pictures,
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going, look, they're all old, they're all white. And that's what Mitch was referring to. We don't
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have to apologize for the fact that the people in this room and probably in that room that night,
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most of the people were white. And, but he was, I think he was referring to those people.
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It doesn't matter. Um, well, but our, our, our, our movement is, is welcoming of all Albertans.
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I was at an event outside of a task one the other night, and there was a gentleman there from Africa,
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um, who's, you know, you know, born in Africa that was completely supportive of what we were
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doing. And his worry was that the reconfederationists were going to take over and try to, you know,
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sneak some sort of negotiation in with Carney to try to keep Alberta and Canada, you know, after a
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referendum. And, you know, we had to assure this guy, because he was really worried about it, that no,
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we want Alberta independence and we want Alberta to be free from communist Canada. And, you know,
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I was chatting with him and I mean, he literally, you know, like, you know, you know, came from a
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country that was in the process of being ruined by communism. And he wants Alberta out of Canada
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because he's afraid that Canada is turning into a communist country, you know? So, and we get a lot
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of that people from, you know, um, you know, lots of people from China, lots of people from Southeast Asia,
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you know, that know what communist, well, and Eastern Europe, you know, that know what communism
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looks like. And, you know, they're supporting our movement because they do, they want to get Alberta
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out of the clutches of communist Ottawa. You know, we, uh, we had somebody out a couple of Saturdays
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ago. I was at the event in Calgary. I like to think it was sort of that night that the ball started
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rolling on crowds showing up. It was insane. We had a, uh, a report that we had 2000 people standing
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outside this packed auditorium in Southeast Calgary. And we had a young man walk up who
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was of Ukrainian descent. His parents are, his parents had just moved here. They moved from
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Ukraine. They were concerned about, um, coming here because they wanted to move to Canada,
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but he was all for the independence movement as well. So we have to keep that in mind.
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And in this article as well, by Sandor, he talks about Mitch saying that, you know,
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Christianity could soon be a crime, but again, context is important. Uh, when you, um,
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when you look into this thing and what Mitch was referring to at the time.
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Well, that's right. And the slide that Mitch was referring to when he said that, and he went,
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he also said, and the Torah and the Quran could be outlawed, right? Because when you look at what
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Mark Miller wants to do, Mark Miller wants to be given editorial control over a thousand year old
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religious texts where he can go through with a black, you know, editing pen and edit out all of the,
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you know, the portions of the Bible, the Torah or the Quran that offend him as being hate speech.
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So I always joke that one of my favorite passages in Paul's letters, uh, you know,
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will be excised immediately. And that's Paul's first letter to the Corinthians chapter 14 39.
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And above all, keep your women silent in church. If they have any questions,
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they are to be subservient to their husbands and ask them at all, you know, that kind of idea.
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Yeah. I don't, I don't believe that. If you met my wife, you'd know that that's not my life,
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but I just, you know, Oh, there's Mark Miller got to get rid of the Corinthians.
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Well, let me actually, actually, while I've got, you can continue this on a moment,
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but let me, I'll insert this in post, but here's Mark Miller and a committee actually talking about
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this and saying that what is said in some of the scriptures are considered hate. So I'll put that in
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here so people can check it out in, in, in Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Romans, there's other
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passages. There's clear hatred towards, for example, homosexuals. I don't know. I understand how the
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concept of good faith could be invoked if someone were literally invoking a passage from, in this
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case, the Bible, but there are other religious texts that say the same thing. Uh, and somehow
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constantly say that this is good faith. I mean, clearly there are situations in these texts where
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these statements are hateful. They should not be used to invoke, uh, or be a defense. And there
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should perhaps be discretion for prosecutors to press charges. Uh, I just want to understand what
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your notion of good faith is in this context where there are clearly passages in, uh, in religious
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texts that are clearly hateful. Uh, but here's the, here's the interesting thing is that, um, I think
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people are really concerned not only about what Mark Miller said, uh, but coming down the line,
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we do have a lot of C bills coming that deal with speech that could, um, that could have a real
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concern for people who are in church, who in the future might, and there are no religions that say
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that men should not marry men and women shouldn't marry. That could become a hate speech in the future.
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Um, saying that to that, that men can become women or there are two genders could become hate speech
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in the future. These are the concerns that I think we have things, right. You know, is, is Mark Miller
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going to tell the Pope that, uh, that henceforth, he's got to allow women clergy. I mean, you know,
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because obviously that all of the teachings of the Catholic church in and around, you know,
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you know, a celibate male clergy come from Paul's letters. And you know, those passages that I'm talking
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about, about keep your women silent in church, right? I mean, that's Catholic dogma based on the
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writings of St. Paul. So, you know, is Mark Miller going to tell the Pope that, uh, that if he doesn't
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reverse, you know, uh, you know, a very, you know, you know, thousand year old policy of the Catholic
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church that, uh, um, that he's going to deem the Catholic church to be, uh, you know, a hate,
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you know, a hateful, a hate organization engaged in hate speech every time, every time a priest speaks
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from, uh, speaks from the altar and a Catholic mass. I mean, it's a very slippery slope.
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It is. You know, once you have a, once you have a politician telling churches what they can and
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can't say, I mean, Mao did it in China, Hitler did it in, you know, in, uh, you know, in Germany,
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Mussolini, you know, uh, to the extent that he could would be telling the, you know, the telling
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the Catholic church what they should or shouldn't say in fascist Italy. I mean, is that the road that
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we're on really that, uh, you know, we have a fascist government in Ottawa telling, um, religious
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leaders, you know, what their scriptures mean or what, or what scriptures they can refer to.
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It seems to me to be completely inappropriate. You, you need to, you need to, you need context
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here as well, because people say, this isn't going to happen. It's not going to happen. 30
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people a day are arrested in England for saying things. There's a person that was arrested for
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silently praying on the street. And this is happening all the time because they've passed
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similar laws to this. So I think, you know, Mitch is concerned and in independent Alberta,
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this will not happen. I think that everybody else, everybody needs to realize that that was
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literally 30 seconds of a 45 minute presentation. I mean, we're not an organization that spends our
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time, you know, taking a 45 minute presentation, you know, uh, you know, about any particular race
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or ethnicity, um, you know, being persecuted by anybody. I mean, it was like literally a little
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blurb out of a lengthy presentation that was basically, you know, that focused more on economics,
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the benefits of, uh, having no taxes in Alberta, uh, drastically reducing the amount of regulation
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in Alberta, you know, et cetera. That's what we're all about. We welcome everybody, you know,
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I was going to ask you, you know, and again, you know, we have Africans come to our meetings.
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We have Asians coming to our meetings. We have Filipinos coming to our meetings. We have people from the
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Muslim community, the Sikh community, the Hindu community, you know, all coming to our meetings
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and supporting what we're doing. So, you know, to suggest the contrary, they're simply trying to
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slow our momentum and, uh, you know, and to stop people from coming out and, you know, signing
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petitions or being associated with what we're doing. Like there's, you know, there's a journalist by
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the name of Charles Russnell right now. That's, you know, that's writing a hit piece on me. Right.
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And of course they've got nothing better to do. So let's find a story about a couple of guys
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gossiping over a drink, uh, during a political convention. I mean, who doesn't gossip over a
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drink during a political convention? That's what everybody does. But apparently this is a big story,
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right? Like it's ludicrous. Right. And here's, here's the thing I wrote. I actually typed this into
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my computer. When I read your article, I wrote, did Mitch tell you how he responded to Sandor when he was
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asked for comment on this? And I wondered what you said to him when you were asked for comment on this.
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Well, no, well, exactly. I mean, Sandor didn't ask any of us for comment on any of that. Right. And
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I mean, it's the same thing like that little loser, Johnny Wakefield up in Edmonton to write for the
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Edmonton journal, writing all those hit pieces about, you know, uh, you know, these law society
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things that I've been dealing with. I mean, it's really hard for me because as a lawyer, I really
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can't comment on things that are in process, but he's making it out like I'm the worst guy in the world.
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And then I was really happy that during the public hearing, the law society prosecutor,
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you know, asked me why I wrote this letter to the prime minister and, you know, Jason Kenney,
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all these people. And I said, the reason I wrote the letter wasn't to obtain any benefit for anybody
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other than I do not want, didn't want thousands of children in Alberta to have their hearts destroyed
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with myocarditis. And I wanted parents to be aware that more children would die from the COVID shots
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that would die from, from COVID. Right. And I was very upset and I was very concerned about the fact
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that all of our so-called leaders, um, you know, we're not making this public and we're just parroting
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the word safe and effective on an ongoing basis. And I was very, very, very concerned about this.
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And that's why I wrote those letters that got me into the glue with the law society, which we're
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still dealing with. Right. But I'm very constrained in what I say, but you know, he won't even bother to
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call me for a comment. Um, you know, which my comment would have been like, look, you know,
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all of this is being resolved in a professional manner, both to my satisfaction and the satisfaction
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of the law society. I don't even get the courtesy of that phone call and everything goes out of its
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way to look like I'm the stupidest, most incompetent, most useless, uh, unethical lawyer in the world
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when nothing could be further from the truth. I mean, I've argued in one cases at the Supreme
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Court of Canada, you know, I've won cases in every appellate court, you know, major appellate
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court in the country. It's really funny that none of them accused me of being incompetent.
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Right. Like, right. Because they can't make the case on the record. Right. So, you know,
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they've got to attack me however they can. And again, it's this whole idea that, you know,
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they're going to write these slanted hit pieces and not bother calling you for comment or, you know,
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you know, the rationale cases that they do call you for a comment, they want to argue with you.
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They want to try to get you, you know, to admit things that aren't true. Um, you know,
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it's not journalism. I mean, they're basically, you know, it's like a reverse investigation where
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the police are trying to put, you know, fit somebody up for a crime. They know who it is
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they want to convict. And then they're just trying to find the facts, you know, to, you know, to fit
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the narrative, you know, rather than, you know, rather than being fair and biased and telling the whole
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story. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. Right. So, yeah, you didn't get any, uh,
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you didn't get any call from anybody regarding this, this group. I looked it up online,
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stop hate Alberta. They do have a website up there and, um, you know, I'm sure we'll probably
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be seeing that, uh, uh, them at events coming up here. I do want to try to, I mean, who are these
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people? I mean, I can't even find them online. I don't know their website. It doesn't exist.
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There's probably three of them in total. And, uh, you know, and again, like, you know, it's like,
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oh, well we have, oh, under our process, these complaints are anonymous. So we don't even know
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who the complainant is. We don't even know if the complainant isn't the bozo that's being interviewed
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for the article. Right. I mean, for all we know, the complainant, you know, is, you know, is, uh,
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you know, is this, the head of this so-called stop hate Alberta, you know, group. And I, and my
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question is where were they when all the pictures of Trudeau in blackface with cucumbers strapped to the
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inside of his, you know, jeans and pictures of football games, you know, like his idea, you know,
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Trudeau's idea of blackface were floating around. Where was stop hate, you know, Alberta then? I
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mean, why weren't they investigating Justin Trudeau for obviously his hate-filled portrayal of black
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people? And when the liberal party and Trudeau couldn't even say that the four or five pictures
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that we had of Trudeau in blackface were the only pictures of Trudeau in blackface,
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because apparently it was something that he would do with a fairly large degree of regularity.
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Yeah, I know, I know. Let's, let's end on something positive here.
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It's been remarkable. I was, again, I was on the Saturday prior to coming to, uh, to Panama
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a couple of Saturdays ago, and we saw all these people line up and I felt kind of out of it here.
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I feel like I was missing something being on vacation, seeing all these pictures all around the
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province and people lining up in droves to sign the petition. I talked to Dennis Modry last week
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here when I was here in Panama. He, he couldn't believe it. What are your thoughts on that?
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Well, it's been fantastic, right? It's like, you know, and what a, and what a silent protest that,
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you know, has been, and then what, and this is how the government should take it. This is a huge
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message of protest to the government of Alberta, when literally tens of thousands of Albertans
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will line up into a dark January night and silently wait in line with their neighbors,
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with a look of determination on their face, because they want to sign what they're calling
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the Alberta independent declaration of independence petition. Right. Right. And, and that's what it is.
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I mean, people are going, where can I sign the declaration of independence petition?
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I need to sign it. Right. And they're, you know, and they're, you know, and they're determined to do
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it. And I mean, it's, if that isn't sending a message to the government of Alberta, you know,
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they bet, you know, they're not paying attention. Right. And then on top of it, you know, and to be
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clear, I mean, you know, well, I think the lineups have been phenomenal from a, an optics perspective
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to demonstrate the degree of support for what Jason Kenney was, you know, referring to as a,
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a fringe movement that couldn't organize a two car funeral procession, et cetera. Right.
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You know, visually demonstrated what an idiot Jason Kenney is and how out of touch with Alberta
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politics he is. Right. But you know, we were, I felt kind of bad because the reason we had those long
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lineups was because somebody I'm not allowed to criticize publicly, or I violate the rules,
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weren't getting election badges out in time. Right. So we had a shortage of canvassing badges,
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which meant we'd only have two or three, you know, signer, you know, people allowed to sign
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or take signatures at these events. And these poor volunteers, like,
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her little hand was falling off at the end of every evening.
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Congratulations. Applause for those people who are sitting there for hours after hour to do that.
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My most heartfelt thanks to all of our volunteers and canvassers who have literally been working
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around the clock and just writing their hands off, you know, to the point of carpal tunnel,
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to get as many people signed up as they can. But now, you know, because we're getting our badges
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out, you know, in a more timely fashion, and we literally have thousands of canvassers that are
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now registered, you know, because we don't think that it's, you know, appropriate to have our,
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you know, have our fellow Albertans having to wait in line for two or three hours,
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you know, like they're in a communist country waiting for the last loaf of bread that Mark
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Carney's going to let them have, right? You know, we're trying to have, you know, like,
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at these events where we have more than a thousand people, we want to have, you know,
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20, 30 canvassers there, so we can just move people through, you know, 20, 30 at a time,
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so the people that have heard our message, believe in what we're doing, can just sign and go home
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without wasting a bunch of time. And those that want to stay and, you know, listen to Mitch and I
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talk some more, listen to other speakers talk about the benefits of independence, they can stay,
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whatever. So we're getting, you know, as more and more canvassing badges come out, you know,
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we can move people through much more and more quickly. And then the other thing that we're doing,
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which I'm really excited about, is that all of these events, we're asking for people to volunteer,
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you know, if they have main street businesses or businesses that are on a ground floor with good
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parking somewhere, to volunteer a little bit of space so that we can have volunteer canvassers come in,
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set up tables and man tables, you know, 40, 50 hours a week on a permanent basis,
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as permanent locations at these businesses. And that campaign is now getting underway. So
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everywhere we go, there's more and more people volunteering, you know, their businesses,
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volunteering space so that we can set up permanent locations. And then people can just come in,
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you know, go to the website, see all the permanent locations, find the one closest to them,
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go and sign and go home, right? It doesn't have to be a big rigmarole. You know,
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the price of admission to sign the petition isn't being forced to listen to Mitch Sylvester and Jeff
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Rath tell you again, how much better off your life is going to be without federal income tax,
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you know what I mean? But it's going really well. We're excited about the campaign.
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Stayfreealberta.com to go to find locations for it and more will be coming up. I'm heading home. I
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should have my badge. I had to miss my training. So maybe somebody can tell me where I can get the
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training. It's only supposed to take 15 minutes, but I'm hoping to set up in my community in
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Southeast Calgary. Um, and I think, uh, Dennis Kalma, he said he would come and sit with me
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and he's going to be signing people up as well. So we're hoping to do that because I've just been
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busy on a bunch of other things. Uh, you know, I'm actually, I'm going to sign up as a canvasser
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and I'll come in from you guys once I get, when I get my badge. But the other thing too is just
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well, the people know, um, you know, this is a, an integrated, very well organized,
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integrated campaign we're running out. And not only are we going to have permanent signing locations,
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but then, you know, once we get everybody badged up and we have our army of 50,000 canvassers,
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which is what we hope to have, you know, uh, closer to the end of this campaign,
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then we're going to have an 87 constituency door knocking campaign. Right. And we're going to,
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you know, all of our, you know, and that's why I want to get my badge. I want to be able to go out
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and, you know, knock on doors and talk to my fellow Albertans and hop on my quad and go bang on all of
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my neighbors doors and, you know, and, uh, you know, talk to them and, you know, find out what neighbors
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I like and what neighbors I don't, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Um, I want to, I want to end on this, um,
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big event coming up on Monday, January 26. Since I've been here, the place that's happening has
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changed and they'll be at the big four building instead of the BMO center. And is this simply
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because we needed more seats? We had so many, we outgrew the problem. We outgrew the BMO center
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is the problem. And, uh, there's a couple issues. So we had, um, we were hoping to have two whole
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halls, uh, at the BMO center, but, uh, one of their halls is under renovation. So we only,
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we were restricted to one hall at the BMO center, which would only accommodate four to 5,000 people
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if we didn't have any tables and it was standing room only. So apparently the, uh, big four building
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will, uh, um, uh, accommodate, uh, 7,000 people. So we've moved over to the big four so we can
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accommodate more people. And who knows, everybody keep paying attention to your social media feeds
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and whatever. I mean, by the time this is over, who knows, we may have to move to the saddle dome.
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We'll see what happens, right? And for now we're at the, you know, for now we're at the big four
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building, right? Yeah. I think you have to RSVP for this as well. Go to stayfreealberta.com to RSVP.
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But again, it's going to be a signing event. So we're going to have signers and we're going to
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have 300 canvassers at that event so we can get everybody through really quickly. And, uh, we're
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going to have people, um, uh, people taking signatures all day at that event. So just go to the website,
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look at the times that we're going to be open for, uh, for signing. And we're going to have as many
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canvassers as, uh, you know, as we can get at that event. So people aren't having to wait in,
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you know, in long lines. I mean, people are willing to do it. I think it's an amazing form
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of protest. It sends a, you know, it sends a really strong message to the Alberta government
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about how far out of touch they are with the citizens of Alberta. And this, the idea of continuing,
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you know, to behave like Neville Chamberlain and appease Mark Carney, um, you know, with, uh,
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um, you know, 600% carbon tax increases and all the rest of it, all of that garbage needs to be
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shredded and they need to take, you know, pay attention to the real Albertans. Cause these
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are the people that vote for the UCP and they're going to ignore all of these people at their peril,
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you know? And, you know, I've heard that the party whip is, uh, you know, it's telling everybody
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that they can't take sides and all the rest of it. I think over the next few weeks, we're going to
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one by one, see the more courageous MPs coming out to sign the petition and, um, we're excited
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about it. It's going to be a, you know, it's going to be a good thing. Well, I'll be there on Monday.
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Uh, from what I've heard, they may start signing people, uh, uh, getting signatures as early as 11
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AM. This is on Monday. That's what I understand. Wow. Yeah. 11 o'clock at the big war building,
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we're going to be open for business and people can come in and, you know, and they can come in over
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their lunch hour. They can come in whenever, come and sign, uh, the petition chat with like-minded folks
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about how much better off we're going to be in a free and independent Alberta and, uh, you know,
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and celebrate our province, celebrate the freedom of, you know, that Alberta is going to enjoy. So,
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you know, obviously I'm, I'm really excited about it. And, uh, um, you know, looking, you know,
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barring, uh, you know, barring having to be all the way in, up to a courtroom somewhere, um,
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else I'll be, you know, I should be there. So I'll be there looking forward to it, uh, with, uh,
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another 6,999 Albertans. I'm excited about it on Monday night, excited about getting back. So I
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can feel the, you know, I can feel that it's, I can feel it all the way here in Panama, how things
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are growing in my home and I'm looking forward to getting back. And it's always a pleasure to talk
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to you. Hope to see you on Monday, Jeff. Thanks so much for doing this. Yeah, you bet, John. And
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thanks again for spreading the word and all the work that you do. It's, uh, you know, it's fantastic.
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I love being able to talk to Patriots like you and I'm so grateful for all the great work you're
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doing. So thank you very much. Thank you, Jeff Rath from Stay Free Alberta. If you liked the video,
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