John Bolton - August 02, 2026


What Happened To Danielle? This Theory Might Explain Everything (With Former MP Rob Anders)


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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm John and welcome to the channel. Great to have you along today. It is a pleasure. Thanks
00:00:08.100 for clicking on this video. I think this could be a very interesting one today. You know,
00:00:13.880 over the last week or so, in particular, something that happened the other day has got people asking
00:00:18.500 the question, what happened to Danielle Smith? I think this began maybe a couple of months ago
00:00:24.680 when she came out in favor of the pro-Canada side, the independence people who support her
00:00:29.540 felt betrayed, thought she should remain neutral. But something dawned on me this morning when I
00:00:34.780 was talking to a friend of mine. He says, here's what's going to happen with Danielle Smith
00:00:38.620 sometime in the fall after the referendum. And something dawned on me that I think will knock
00:00:44.640 your socks off. I've got a sentence I've written at the top of my notes here that might knock
00:00:49.360 your socks off. And I also wrote a betrayal of Albertans. We'll get to that in just a moment.
00:00:55.800 Now, I'd like to bring into the conversation Rob Anders, former MP for Calgary West.
00:01:01.800 Rob, you were an MP from 1997 to 2015.
00:01:07.580 I'm just wondering, do you ever have thoughts of getting back in the game and become a politician again, or are you done with that?
00:01:14.220 You know, when I got into politics, the litmus test was whether or not you were in favour or opposed to gay marriage. 0.99
00:01:23.020 now the litmus test is like uh whether or not you're in favor of anal poppers uh you know type 0.86
00:01:29.900 of thing so it's it's become a lot more politically correct uh since i left but um who knows time 0.94
00:01:37.420 will tell okay now i just want to i want to get this out front you you've known the premier for
00:01:42.840 a long time you know daniel smith and i think you consider her a friend as well correct correct yes
00:01:48.200 Yeah. And of course, I know that politics have a big influence on people's lives. But as far as I'm concerned, friends and family are more important. So I understand if you're trying, you know, you want to make sure that you're not, you know, being too critical of the premier. But I think you've got some interesting insight on her. When people are asking the question this week, what has happened to Danielle Smith? And let me run over a few other things that have come up.
00:02:11.840 She came out the other day with some different thoughts on equalization. 0.97
00:02:15.280 She has spit fire about that in the past, how it is harming Alberta.
00:02:19.620 She also has made some different comments about immigration.
00:02:22.800 A little while ago, she said double the population of Alberta.
00:02:26.200 We've actually got five questions on the referendum this fall on October 19th that deal, for the most part, with immigration.
00:02:32.740 And she came out the other day talking about more immigration.
00:02:35.560 She has never been too favorable about climate change measures, but she's agreed to carbon capture and industrial carbon taxes on a pipeline to get one built.
00:02:45.380 She's also said it would be a failure if government dollars were used to build a pipeline.
00:02:49.620 We're talking maybe $35 to $45 billion in taxpayer dollars to build a pipeline.
00:02:55.380 And of course, people have said she's turned her back on her base, many of whom are in the independence movement, and they're very upset with her calling for her head right now.
00:03:03.380 Do you know what has happened to Danielle Smith? Any insight here?
00:03:09.140 Well, I remember when Take Back Alberta was looking for a poster child and Danielle Smith stepped forward. 0.75
00:03:19.480 She's erudite. She's smart. She's well-spoken. She's a policy wonk. You know, all of that. That's true. 0.93
00:03:25.280 and uh they they said okay we'll we'll run with her uh i knew all along that she was more of a
00:03:34.380 federalist than she was kind of an independence minded person uh you know back in university i
00:03:40.600 was with the reform party as was her former husband she was with the progressive conservatives
00:03:44.980 so uh you know she she she didn't tend toward the peasants with pitchforks and you know the 0.94
00:03:52.180 the upset rednecks that those were my people um that's my that's my try so she uh that wasn't her 0.92
00:03:58.900 thing and um so i knew that they weren't getting whether it was mitch sylvester or david parker
00:04:05.220 dennis modry etc they weren't getting exactly who they thought they were uh i think she realized it
00:04:11.860 was a vehicle uh to be able to get into the leadership the premiership uh and uh and and
00:04:17.860 you know she she took it uh fair enough um when it comes to some of the issues that that you've
00:04:22.740 mentioned i think that equalization uh obviously we've had a vote on that uh the other premiers
00:04:29.620 don't care to budge on it i can imagine uh so she might be being pragmatic with regard to that
00:04:36.340 on immigration uh i think she probably looks at it and says well if alberta had more clout
00:04:42.020 if we had the population of a quebec or an ontario you know et cetera bigger than bc
00:04:46.580 number three player whatever you know that would give us more seats more power more influence etc
00:04:51.220 um but um i don't think she's as concerned as rural alberta is uh with regard to you know jobs
00:05:00.580 or crime or you know that that i mean is but she's not on exactly the same wavelength she's more of a
00:05:06.100 calgary wavelength than she is a taber wavelength right and um in terms of carbon capture um i know
00:05:14.020 like what i i got into the issue of central bank digital currency because i'd heard when she was a
00:05:18.820 talking head on global that she had talked about how she thought it was inevitable i thought oh
00:05:23.460 so i went down that rabbit hole and uh you know now we've got various privacy concerns and the
00:05:29.780 justice center has written a comprehensive paper on it and i think i've warned enough people
00:05:33.780 hundreds or whatever in the conservative party of alberta uh ucp that we don't want to go down 0.54
00:05:39.620 this road because all you have to do is look at china and the digital yuan and see how dangerous
00:05:43.940 and problematic that is that's what the future of central bank digital currency looks like
00:05:48.420 um and on in terms of taxpayer funded pipelines i think her background at the fraser institute
00:05:54.260 would would tend to have her not favor that but i think she's also a bit of a go-along get-along
00:06:01.460 if she's in the room with carney she wants to make some sort of progress with him some sort 0.63
00:06:05.940 short of concession, etc. I remember a conversation that I had with her down at her diner that she
00:06:13.220 had in High River not that long ago. And she was saying to me, asking, she said, do you think that
00:06:18.920 Carney is a pragmatic banker or a bug-eyed environmentalist? And I said, I think he's a
00:06:25.120 bug-eyed environmentalist, you know, pretending to be a pragmatic banker. He was chosen over
00:06:31.840 uh people who had more seniority were better qualified at the bank of canada
00:06:35.440 um i know that him and jim flaherty ran at loggerheads at times obviously he was chased
00:06:42.040 out of england because of his job at the bank of england um and so i uh i think he's just a
00:06:48.500 smarter slicker version of trudeau yeah she actually actually played a clip from her the
00:06:53.800 other day uh going back to a candace malcolm interview from probably less than 18 months ago
00:06:58.520 saying that she thinks he's worse than Justin Trudeau. But here she is. I mean, there's a
00:07:03.700 saying, I've used this on my channel before, a proverb, show me who you walk with and I'll tell
00:07:08.440 you who you are. And she's walking with Mark Carney right now. And right now people are
00:07:13.420 spitting fire against Daniel Smith. I was at a meeting the other night. Everybody in the room
00:07:18.260 wants her gone. They want to see her go away. They're sick of her. They think she's betrayed
00:07:24.200 them, as I said, off the top of this video. So I'm talking to a friend of mine this morning
00:07:28.860 and he had something that, something he said to me really dawned on me. And I think he's
00:07:35.480 absolutely right. It's the total logical thing. He said she is going to resign. She is going to
00:07:42.880 leave approximately around the time of the AGM on November 27th of this year. She will not be
00:07:49.100 around to run in the election next year. And it made absolute sense to me that she's doing this.
00:07:53.740 So here's the logic behind this, Rob, and maybe you can tell me what you think. 1.00
00:07:57.900 She's going to resign after the vote on October 19th.
00:08:02.500 So I've written this down so I can get this straight.
00:08:04.460 She resigns if we vote to stay.
00:08:08.320 She says she's lost the support of the people who support independence, who want to see her gone.
00:08:14.220 And she can claim that she fought to keep Alberta and Canada and won.
00:08:19.240 If we vote to leave, she resigns because she can claim she can't be leader of the party because she supported the stay side in Canada.
00:08:28.680 She does this at the AGM in November so she can leave on her own terms.
00:08:33.640 And now she sets herself up to run as the leader of the conservative party of Canada.
00:08:39.340 She says, look, I'm from Alberta. I fought to save Canada. I compromised with Carney to do what was right for Canada.
00:08:46.600 Now, here's the thing, the conclusion I came to.
00:08:49.240 And this is the thing that really, really struck me this morning and shook me this morning.
00:08:53.620 I wrote at the top of my page here, Danielle Smith, with all the things she's doing right now, that people think she's betraying them. 0.82
00:09:01.200 She is throwing Alberta under the bus to further her own ambitions. 0.99
00:09:07.240 What do you think of that?
00:09:09.500 Well, I think she's better than Jason Kenney, who jailed pastors.
00:09:14.620 uh she's better than ed stalmack who brought in uh oil royalty hikes she's better than allison
00:09:21.520 redford um you know uh so she's got all that going for her she she's not ralph klein
00:09:28.140 people thought maybe she was as well they thought perhaps she'd be that person and again this is why
00:09:33.920 you know i think i think some people were hoping that she was going to be kind of a
00:09:38.740 a female version of Ron DeSantis in Florida,
00:09:42.860 a Christy Noem type character.
00:09:46.180 But that's, I don't think that's really who she is.
00:09:49.520 I think she's more of a Federalist than that. 0.96
00:09:51.480 She's more of a team player, more of a go along, get along than that.
00:09:56.680 Like she does care somewhat having been a media person about the, 0.95
00:10:01.820 how do I put it, the people in the room, the chattering classes,
00:10:07.460 the uh you know she she does care about being respected by those people and getting along with
00:10:12.480 them i i i gave up on that a long time ago uh to be popular with that crowd uh the cocktail circuit
00:10:18.720 that's not my peeps um but um i i know i had a conversation with a colleague uh and uh a former
00:10:27.960 sorry current member of parliament and they were worried about the next election and the leadership
00:10:32.960 and what have you and they were throwing around some names and some of them were just duds they
00:10:37.320 were just they were going nowhere uh like let me just talk to that for a second for a second like
00:10:42.540 i i'm supportive of pierre because uh i think he's he's an ideologue and he's along the lines
00:10:48.960 of where i am worldview wise for the most part um so i i i wouldn't want to see the party go back
00:10:55.200 to a red or something like that but um jason kenney is one of the names that's gets talks
00:11:01.720 about he's got a full-time staff i understand campaigning for this uh jason i don't think
00:11:06.960 can carry the will of Alberta going into a leadership convention after he's jailed pastors
00:11:11.820 after the membership swelled to the largest ever to remove him as premier I don't think he's going
00:11:16.040 to carry that furthermore uh if Doug Ford and certainly Doug Ford's people are interested in
00:11:22.620 having Doug run for leadership because he's done Ontario several times now chances of him winning
00:11:28.840 another one back to back probably not in the cards those operatives want to have the coordination
00:11:34.440 have a place in the national political dialogue so he's gonna he can carry toronto he can carry
00:11:40.660 ontario if jason kenney thinks he can he can beat ford nation in ontario he's crazy that's not gonna
00:11:46.260 happen so i just i i think those are just sugar plum fairies dancing in jason's head to be honest
00:11:51.180 so danielle uh in that circumstance would actually look good her problem there is uh she has to have 0.98
00:12:00.260 the self-discipline because she's got a good gig she's got a good job she's enjoying being premier 0.99
00:12:05.500 but to pull the plug early before uh she upsets a base in alberta that is overwhelmingly in favor 0.99
00:12:15.360 of independence like i said i've seen the polls she's seen the polls you can you can dissect that
00:12:21.160 stuff and i was estimating that about 66 percent two-thirds of people who are conservative party
00:12:28.520 members federally as well as uh ucp members provincially are in favor of independence i'm
00:12:34.500 not saying that's the majority of the province but it's the majority of the base yeah here's
00:12:38.580 for that matter um where this gets tricky then is i was at uh in red deer at a town hall that
00:12:45.420 they had with three of the mlas plus her four of them i guess and this question got asked and i was
00:12:51.580 uh i think she was taking it back and i was very interested and i stood up when they asked who's
00:12:57.960 in favor of independence 80 of us stood and and then when the question was asked of who was in
00:13:03.600 favor of just remaining and status quo it was only about five percent and then the rest were
00:13:09.220 kind of you know undecided didn't want to stand up etc whatever so she's got a membership that
00:13:14.040 overwhelmingly certainly rural and i think even in calgary i think calgary's probably about two
00:13:18.480 thirds membership wise i think rural is probably 80 i was there in the room and saw it um edmonton
00:13:25.040 i'm not sure but uh yeah she's she's uh growing out of touch with the base on that issue i think
00:13:31.720 well you know and i think you think she's an opportunist i mean i again i was out the other
00:13:36.740 night everybody wants her gone and she has to know that after this vote one way or the other
00:13:42.820 when she shows up that up at that agm on november 27th we've been saying it for months we're going
00:13:48.080 to show up there and tell her how we feel about her now that she's come out against the independence
00:13:52.600 movement. Mitch Sylvester and others have been encouraging people to sign up as UCP members.
00:13:58.060 They're all going to be there and they're going to go after her whether we win or lose the vote
00:14:02.680 on October the 19th. Do you really think she's going to stand there and take it and be humiliated
00:14:08.120 by these people as they try to get rid of her because they want her gone? People are still 0.62
00:14:12.320 working behind the scenes with constituency associations to have her SGM'd, to have a vote
00:14:18.060 on her leadership so this makes perfect sense to me it was so logical when they said she's going
00:14:23.260 to resign and she's doing all these things now because she's in it for herself and that really
00:14:29.040 bothered me she's she's throwing Albertans under the bus to further her own ambitions and I find
00:14:36.680 that to be very sad and it makes so much sense to me now I was in that room like I said in Red Deer
00:14:42.740 and i i watched her reaction as i and 80 of that room stood she clearly understands uh that her
00:14:50.340 position is off base i i have said to people both close to danielle and to pierre paulia
00:14:56.420 that the best thing both of them could do is just be on this for pierre i know that you know his
00:15:03.380 job is supposed to be captain canada so you know but his base here in alberta in the constituency
00:15:09.060 that he holds that Damien Keurig had previously
00:15:11.580 is overwhelmingly in favor of independence.
00:15:14.500 So just be quiet, right?
00:15:16.760 Because when you talk about it,
00:15:18.140 and if you're talking about it as Captain Canada,
00:15:20.100 you're alienating your base.
00:15:21.340 You're dividing it, right?
00:15:22.400 Don't do that.
00:15:23.500 And Daniel Smith is in the same position.
00:15:25.320 But when she does it,
00:15:26.920 she's not doing it because she has Pierre's job
00:15:29.560 as Captain Canada, the wannabe Captain Canada.
00:15:32.740 She's doing it because there's a personal conviction there. 1.00
00:15:35.840 and uh it's going to make a tough work the other thing here to think about you know you know women 0.97
00:15:43.220 have a different intuition when it comes to other to uh into it and other other women you know they
00:15:48.160 really do and you know i've spoken to other people my my wife i went up her and told her this this
00:15:52.560 morning she said john i've been telling you this for years i don't trust this woman she's done this
00:15:57.460 before she walked across the aisle and everybody i'll tell you this has been brought up quite a bit
00:16:02.000 over the last couple of days. She walked across the aisle when she was the leader of the Wild
00:16:05.840 Rose Party, I think with seven other MLAs, betraying the people who supported her. She did
00:16:12.020 that a number of years ago. My wife said, I don't trust her at all because if she's done it before,
00:16:16.760 she'll do it again. And people, the other night, she's crossed the aisle again. This time she's
00:16:21.420 crossed from being the leader of the party here in Alberta over to Mark Carney and the liberals
00:16:26.480 again, a betrayal. And this is sort of a pattern with her and it works out to her advantage.
00:16:31.040 She eventually went into the wilderness for a bit, got her name and her voice on the radio for a number of years, was able to talk to them, and then she walked into this job as the premier.
00:16:41.280 What do you think?
00:16:42.820 Well, I know one of my colleagues, he used to be the House leader in Ottawa when we were at a federal conservative convention in Quebec City.
00:16:49.920 He literally said to me, Daniel Smith, who knew, after the foreclosing.
00:16:53.820 uh and i remember there was an event at the cochran legion uh this is a few years back now
00:16:59.160 uh when jason kenny was just preparing to launch uh for the premiership etc and uh at that point
00:17:05.380 he hadn't jailed pastors so i encouraged my supporters to come out and hear what he had to
00:17:08.580 say danielle was in the room she sat one table away from me and i have never seen
00:17:13.720 a shunning like that i acknowledged her i'm a former roommate of hers
00:17:18.560 you know went to university with her and i was like hey how's it doing the room literally did
00:17:24.660 not make eye contact with her neither did jason the room just shunned her because of the floor
00:17:29.260 crossing i'd never seen that before that type of political shunning here's the parallel again
00:17:34.500 though she she was mud her name was mud in this province among people who supported her she rose
00:17:40.820 from the ashes to become premier she betrays the people with all of these things that are happening
00:17:45.000 they're not happy with her again. She runs to be the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.
00:17:49.740 She gets in there. We've got short memories. We're Conservatives after all. She becomes the
00:17:53.960 Premier and everybody says, oh, look, Danielle, she used to be the Premier of Alberta. She can 0.96
00:17:57.720 get all the goodies we want that we've been wanting here in Alberta because she's now the 0.99
00:18:01.540 Prime Minister of the country. And unfortunately, even when we have Prime Ministries who are 0.79
00:18:05.680 Albertans, things don't really work out the way we are. It's almost the same thing in parallel with
00:18:10.640 with some different pieces in play here? I think she would rather play the role of Captain Canada
00:18:19.280 than she would to be the leader of an independence movement in Alberta. That's my honest
00:18:25.940 assessment. I don't think that she would deep down disagree with that. And she does understand
00:18:33.640 the Alberta and the energy patch and our issues, much the same way that Sarah Palin,
00:18:38.980 as governor of alaska understood you know that issue very well so um we'll see time will tell
00:18:48.260 uh i i think we're going to have a very significant vote uh that i think will surprise
00:18:54.900 people in terms of the the amount and the number that are in favor of independence i think the
00:18:59.300 people who are the status quo types um are not as motivated as my sense yeah they're certainly
00:19:07.860 not showing up at those uh town halls that i've that i've been attending um so and they're not
00:19:14.580 the base of the party they're not the ones who control the executive of the party etc
00:19:19.220 so um and they're clearly the ndp and the liberals or whatever are pandering to that
00:19:23.940 and are playing to that and that's those are their people so uh yeah i uh i i i think she's
00:19:33.860 she's going to have a tough time with that if she should have for the sake of the party i think and 1.00
00:19:38.740 for even for her own career and uh what have you to remain more silent than that she she probably 0.97
00:19:45.140 should have allowed her mlas and ministers to have their opinions on that to be able to say that
00:19:49.780 they're in favor of independence because i think some of them are uh and and not to uh uh chagrin
00:19:56.020 if if they indicate that they are say hey it's a private uh vote you know it's a secret ballot i
00:20:00.420 i can do what i want um so and i i think the one of the litmus tests coming up is the nominations
00:20:06.080 because we have these boundary redrawings the nominations are going to tell us a lot because
00:20:10.800 one of the questions in the questionnaire is whether or not people have been involved with
00:20:14.260 an independence movement and if that's going to be used as a litmus test to weed those people out
00:20:19.120 if not by the party executive but by her because she has the ultimate sign off as leader then you'll
00:20:24.040 know and at that point at that point there'll be sparks inside the party if people who are
00:20:29.600 pro-independency nominations that are disqualified by her, they'll be sparks.
00:20:32.640 Well, I already know of a few people that are doing that right now, and they're being scrutinized,
00:20:37.660 like deeply scrutinized over this. And they look like they're trying to be shown the door before
00:20:42.580 they even get in. You know, the thing for the people in the independence movement wasn't the
00:20:46.580 fact that she didn't come out full on for independence, is that she opened her mouth
00:20:49.920 about it. And she could have remained neutral, like you said. That's what betrayed us. And that
00:20:54.380 was the number one thing. And all these things are happening. What do you think of the idea that
00:20:58.100 she may resign and just walk before the fall comes. So she, she, she can walk away one way 1.00
00:21:03.540 or the other on her own terms and then run federally because people have been saying that
00:21:08.500 forever. She wants to be a federal politician and she looks at herself as a future prime minister.
00:21:14.680 I think that if she did that, it, it would leave her more unscathed than if she had her
00:21:23.360 membership revolt against her yes taking a stand against them yeah i think that leaves her in a
00:21:29.280 better position whether or not she has the self-discipline uh to pull the plug uh and say 0.85
00:21:36.240 uh that um you know she's she's gonna leave before she pisses off her base uh effectively
00:21:44.460 um is is another story um i don't know because it's it's a tough thing to do to leave the job
00:21:50.900 as premier because i mean she is like i said smart and well-read and erudite and policy wonky
00:21:57.380 and she is doing some good things um and and and so uh that that would be tough for her i think
00:22:04.420 and a real test of her um her own self-discipline if she if she is interested in running federally 0.97
00:22:12.080 i think she should uh press the eject button before she goes ahead and and really alienates
00:22:19.700 her base in the way that jason kenny did he alienated his base they he he put it to the
00:22:26.060 point where they they he forced their hand to force him out yeah and therefore and therefore
00:22:31.900 he's damaged goods if he tries to seek the federal leadership here's the thing here's the thing i
00:22:37.420 have to think that's interesting justin trudeau isn't all that smart but he had the smarts to
00:22:42.020 get out before he was shown the door by his party he walked away as well i think his father did too
00:22:46.020 if I remember correctly, many, many years ago.
00:22:48.840 So they were smart enough to do it.
00:22:50.040 So maybe she'll do this as well.
00:22:51.900 Let me ask you this.
00:22:53.080 I want to, you are in favor of Alberta independence.
00:22:55.820 We'll end on this.
00:22:56.760 I appreciate your insight into this,
00:22:58.260 but tell me why, former federal MP for Calgary West.
00:23:03.720 Why?
00:23:04.320 Why do you want Alberta independence?
00:23:05.720 Why do you want to walk away?
00:23:07.100 Well, the thing that I would say
00:23:08.240 to the Captain Canada types is
00:23:10.000 if there's any reason whatsoever,
00:23:11.840 and there's plenty of reasons
00:23:13.180 why you shouldn't be happy with the status quo,
00:23:16.020 whether it's you don't like what they're doing on guns you don't like what they're doing on
00:23:19.780 immigration you don't like what they're doing in terms of the courts you don't like what they're
00:23:23.300 doing on equalization you don't like what they're doing on taxes you know yeah yeah exactly for all
00:23:28.260 these for every single one of these reasons that's the reason to vote for independence and to give
00:23:33.460 alberta the negotiating power to be able to say okay we want this this this and this we want
00:23:38.100 everything that quebec's got plus we want to have control over pipelines and environmental
00:23:42.180 regulations plus we want to select our own judges you know etc etc right um and that's and i put to
00:23:49.460 the captain canada types if you want to change any of those things well what else would you do
00:23:54.960 of course you have to vote for independence to get the leverage to be able to do any of that
00:24:00.120 so uh i i think for for those people who say that you know the captain canada types and you know
00:24:06.440 etc uh i think that's an emotional position uh because i i think if you rationally look at it
00:24:13.780 i mean economically let's just run some math here um if we did our own corporate tax collection
00:24:19.660 like quebec does we would keep eight billion dollars a year if we did our own pension even
00:24:24.660 even if it was a terrible ponzi scheme like it currently is without individualized accounts
00:24:29.180 okay uh it would save us three billion dollars a year right uh even if if we did ei on our own
00:24:36.640 uh it would save us hundreds of millions of dollars every year between those three things
00:24:41.400 alone just what quebec does just what quebec does that's 12 billion dollars that we would keep here
00:24:46.160 in alberta rather than send to ottawa um like the math on that we've spent 321 billion equalization
00:24:53.280 was you know a transfer payment stuff um i think the premier says 600 billion dollars over 40 to
00:24:59.840 50 years something like that i think yeah it's crazy yeah it's absolutely monstrous so um conrad
00:25:07.040 black i think had it right when he said if alberta was to vote for independence and pursue that path
00:25:12.720 we would be a petro state we would be like a saudi arabia or a yemen or a uae or in norway
00:25:20.480 uh with these oil resources and uh we would have better services seniors would have better pensions
00:25:28.240 uh you'd have a better employment insurance program you know etc etc like we're the ones
00:25:33.760 laying the golden eggs we're the ones with the oil and the natural gas we're the ones who create
00:25:39.120 the trade surplus with the united states can you imagine if alberta sold uh oil and natural
00:25:45.200 gas to the united states and instead of taking u.s dollars which carney is now using to be able to
00:25:51.520 uh market uh dead instruments in u.s dollars to european countries that are sick with debt
00:25:56.720 the eu because he was a banker there instead if we were to take payment in gold for example can
00:26:02.080 you imagine you know canada used to have 2 500 tons of gold in 1965 if we just kept it without
00:26:10.160 Without adding a doubt, we would have the third largest gold reserves in the world.
00:26:15.540 Right now, Canada is one of 12 countries that has zero gold or bullion backing our currency.
00:26:20.760 It's funny when people ask me about independence.
00:26:22.800 I said, if we become independent, we could pave our streets with gold.
00:26:25.880 My friend Dennis Kalma says we would be Dubai with snow.
00:26:30.240 Yeah.
00:26:30.500 So, you know, yeah, it's fantastic.
00:26:33.000 Well, listen, I appreciate your insight here.
00:26:35.580 I really do.
00:26:36.360 I appreciate your time.
00:26:38.200 I'd love to talk to you again and have more discussion with you.
00:26:41.680 Just fascinating to have your insight, knowing Danielle Smith.
00:26:45.640 And it's going to be really amazing to see how things play out over the, well, it's only
00:26:49.340 like four months away, really, to the end of November, four or five months.
00:26:53.400 Things are going to happen real fast in this province.
00:26:55.440 And isn't it an interesting province to be in politically?
00:26:58.100 I mean, I'm from Ontario, and I never saw anything quite like this.
00:27:01.880 This is one of the most extraordinary times, obviously, because we're in this independence
00:27:05.460 vote.
00:27:06.100 But things are always interesting.
00:27:07.460 Alberta, aren't they? Yeah, well, you know, when I did some polling during the whole trucker convoy
00:27:14.080 stuff, COVID, what we found was that Tabor, Alberta, God bless them in Tabor, 82% of them
00:27:21.820 saw the truckers as heroes, which I do. And I think a lot of Canadians do. I do. The opposite
00:27:27.540 was Hull, Elmer, Quebec, which is where the French speaking bureaucrats who work in Ottawa
00:27:32.640 go to live right in hull elmere just north of ottawa across the river and there was 66 percent
00:27:39.280 were in favor of seizing the bank accounts of anybody who supported the truckers so there you
00:27:43.680 had the polar opposites of the country hull elmere that was all about lockdowns and control and
00:27:51.600 taber alberta which was in favor of independence and anti-mask anti-lockdown freedom freedom yeah
00:27:58.240 Freedom. Yeah, I agree with you. And it just shows you the difference between Quebec and Alberta, the East and the West. I used to live out there. I didn't know what it was about till I got here. And we're a different breed out here. Shall I say we are a distinct society, which takes me back to 95 when we went through the referendum out there in Quebec. Thanks so much for this, Rob. I appreciate it. I hope I got to talk to you again. We'll go for a coffee sometime. And it was just a pleasure to chat with you. I'm sure you have lots of other stories we could talk about. Thank you very much.
00:28:28.520 Thank you very much. Awesome.
00:28:30.420 Former MP Rob Anders, thanks for watching this video.
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