John Bolton - With Unacceptable Fringe - His book & Is A New Independence Strategy Needed？

00:00:00.000 Hi, it's John and welcome to the channel. It is Wednesday, February 25th. I hope you're

00:00:07.840 having a great Wednesday morning here with the big blue mug of coffee. I tip it to you

00:00:12.640 today and we've got a guest on the channel today. We're going to talk about a number

00:00:16.860 of things here. We're going to talk about the book. Let me move it over here so you

00:00:21.220 can see it properly. How Alberta got its independence. And we're going to talk a little

00:00:26.480 bit about strategy when it comes to the Alberta independence movement. Although I'm just

00:00:30.180 kind of launching this on Derek Smith from Unacceptable Fringe right now. Great to have

00:00:36.220 you on the channel. Congratulations with the new book. Thank you so much, John. It's good

00:00:41.020 to be here. You've done a number of these, haven't you? This one is sitting at number one right

00:00:45.580 now in a number of different ways on Amazon, isn't it? It's number one in all of its categories.

00:00:50.740 We clenched number one in Canada briefly yesterday. And then it went back down. We're competing

00:00:58.020 against, I think it's whatever that singer's name, Jelly Roll. It's Jelly Roll. I always get

00:01:05.520 it confused. His wife put out a book. So we're competing with that one for number one. They're

00:01:11.080 doing their press tour. So it's going to be an uphill battle, but I'm confident we're going

00:01:14.460 to get back into the number one spot in the country.

00:01:16.580 But it's going very well, I'm guessing. Amazingly well. Yeah, yeah. Amazingly well.

00:01:22.200 How many books does this, because you're a bestselling author already a number of times

00:01:25.760 over, aren't you? This is number eight. Yep. Eight books. Wow. Eight books. This is number

00:01:31.620 eight. Yep. I think this might be the final one. Yeah. Well, you know, it's got to be hard

00:01:36.060 to do. I know, I mean, it costs a certain amount of money to do this. You've got, the illustrations

00:01:40.760 are great. Rise of Alberta did this. So you teamed up with Rise of Alberta. If you're not

00:01:44.740 following Rise of Alberta online, you should be doing that. I mean, the illustrations are

00:01:48.560 fantastic. Great little story here. You know what I found interesting about reading it is

00:01:52.460 that if you don't live in Alberta and understand our plight, I think you can get an idea of what

00:01:59.640 we're dealing with in Alberta from reading your book. And was that your intention when

00:02:04.800 you wrote it?

00:02:06.080 Well, it's more, if you go back to the beginning of our books, we started out with how the Prime

00:02:11.240 Minister stole freedom after the Freedom Convoy. And it was more to put a spotlight on the treatment

00:02:16.160 of the truckers from Justin Trudeau while putting a fun, creative spin on things. This book was more

00:02:22.460 along those lines of let's talk about, again, like you mentioned, the plight of Alberta. Let's talk

00:02:28.280 about the reasons Alberta should be seeking its independence and kind of the ridiculous demands,

00:02:35.000 we'll say, from the Mark Carney government that we're supposed to keep paying and stand in line.

00:02:39.200 I think what it really tells is just a story of where Alberta is headed and where we need to be,

00:02:45.200 I guess.

00:02:45.800 Of course, I did a little fun video on this the other day, talking about this and evil Mark Carney

00:02:52.360 shows up in it. But I was wondering, did you get clearance from a certain cowboy wearing

00:02:58.000 lawyer, a cowboy hat wearing lawyer here in Alberta? Because he's sort of the main character on the

00:03:04.320 Alberta side in this. I was wondering if you mentioned this to Jeff Rath before you put out the book.

00:03:09.260 We did get Jeff's blessing. I know, like, look, all of our characters are a parody,

00:03:13.780 as it says at the front of the book, that these are not real, real people. Hence why the Prime

00:03:19.820 Minister is always called the Prime Minister. But it's, we still sought Jeff's approval and he was

00:03:25.640 more than happy to join us on this project. So kudos to him for that.

00:03:29.340 And, you know, although the artwork in the book, let me just open it up here so hopefully people can see

00:03:34.140 it because of the Zoom background here. But you can see the artwork here isn't Dr. Seuss.

00:03:39.800 But there certainly is hints of Dr. Seuss in the way, in the cadence of the way you wrote the book

00:03:45.200 as well. Were you thinking about that?

00:03:47.300 Yeah. So when I did How the Prime Minister Stole Freedom, it was a parody of How the Grinch Stole

00:03:52.000 Christmas. We just kind of did it up against Justin Trudeau. So a lot of people enjoyed that

00:03:57.120 book. It was number one in Canada for six weeks when it launched. And when I started doing future

00:04:04.560 books with my other illustrator, I kind of took a poll online and asked people, do you want us to

00:04:09.280 stay with, you know, the parody of Dr. Seuss, like kids' books for adults? Or should we start getting

00:04:15.180 into more serious territory? People liked the fun nature of an adult book that's, you know,

00:04:20.520 drawn up like a kid's book. So we kind of just stuck with that formula as we move forward.

00:04:24.840 Yeah. And it works really good as well. Now, the good thing about this, I mentioned it in the video

00:04:29.320 I did the other day, is that you are giving some of the proceeds from this book to Stay Free Alberta.

00:04:35.980 It's been a while since I've spoken to you. How are you feeling about the independence movement

00:04:39.900 right now? Why are you so invested in the independence movement right now?

00:04:47.120 Well, I think when it comes to Alberta, I've spoken many times on our broadcasts that

00:04:52.760 I love Canada. I'm Canada born. I was born in Manitoba. I've spent over 30 years of my life in

00:04:59.660 Alberta. But Tamara Leach, I think, said it best when we went to the Rebel News event last Saturday

00:05:06.240 in Edmonton. The Freedom Convoy, when you look at all the people on the overpasses with their flags,

00:05:13.000 the true spirit of Canada coming out in support of the Freedom Convoy, she said, you know, I kind of

00:05:17.860 felt like this was our last attempt to keep and hold the country together to revive that spirit of

00:05:24.820 what Canada used to be, especially pre the Justin Trudeau era. The invokement of the Emergencies Act

00:05:32.280 sealed that fate. It's not the people of Canada that are broken. It's the leadership. It's the way

00:05:40.120 the government runs, the endless hamster wheel that we seem to be on. I've been around people in

00:05:45.820 Alberta for many decades that have said, you know, we should join the U.S. or we'd be better if we

00:05:50.580 left. And it was kind of low-end talk, like fringe, if you might say, like amongst small groups of

00:05:57.440 people. When all of a sudden last year, Danielle Smith pops up and says, hey, you either change

00:06:02.940 these nine bad laws or we're going to have a unity crisis. And the conversation all of a sudden gets

00:06:08.220 invigorated with massive support. That was around the time that I met with Jeff Rath and I met with

00:06:15.880 Mitch Sylvester and Dr. Modry when they were running Alberta Prosperity Project. And, you know,

00:06:21.500 when you start to listen to the actual numbers behind things or the benefits for Alberta to leave,

00:06:27.500 it instantly became viable. I'll say in my eyes to start saying, you know, I'm okay with, you know,

00:06:35.660 my wife, like we've bought our home, we're secure, we've, we make a living. But I'm looking at my kids

00:06:41.440 and I'm looking at their future and saying, how are my kids going to get a job? How are they going to

00:06:45.180 buy a home? How are they going to raise a family of their own? When I see a lot of people in, I guess,

00:06:51.260 Gen A or Gen Alpha, however they pronounce it now, still living in their parents' houses. They can't 0.98

00:06:55.900 get out. They can't get jobs. I think Corey Morgan put it best at the rebel event on Saturday that

00:07:03.260 even if Pierre Polyev became prime minister, if, if things had gone different in the last federal

00:07:10.320 election. Um, sure. We might've seen some interprovincial trade. We might've seen, you know,

00:07:16.160 some pipelines get approved or, or a few minor things happen that make our lives a little easier.

00:07:21.580 But he says that the fact of the matter is if you go back to the Stephen Harper days, if you look at,

00:07:25.880 um, how much representation did Alberta get when Stephen Harper was prime minister? Very little.

00:07:31.000 And the reason for that isn't their fault. It's not Pierre's fault either. It's the system. It's the

00:07:35.960 fact that they can't open the constitution. They can't change things because they need seven of

00:07:40.960 10 provinces. Our system isn't designed for representation in the West. So ultimately

00:07:46.220 Alberta independence makes more sense than ever. Fascinating. Fascinating that a number of the

00:07:51.760 questions that Danielle Smith wants on a fall referendum, we could go on forever. I don't want

00:07:55.700 to get too deep into that, but fascinating that a number of the questions she's got on a fall

00:08:00.020 referendum ballot will have to overthrow, will have to rewrite the constitution. And as you said,

00:08:04.740 not likely to happen. Seven out of 10 provinces, 50% of the population. Um, you have to get the

00:08:10.100 parliament, Senate, all of that never going to happen. But some of the proceeds from this do go

00:08:14.940 to stay free Alberta for the independence movement. You know, I want to, I want to bring this up with

00:08:19.040 you. I want to talk to you. I, I was on the other day. I don't know that I was critical of the

00:08:23.440 rebel news event, but I'm a little skeptical of things right now. Um, you went out to that.

00:08:28.840 There's one coming up here in Calgary. And I mentioned on a video the other day that I missed out.

00:08:32.640 Um, Wade Collins got in touch with me, says he'd, he'd be happy to give me a ticket to go to it.

00:08:37.120 So I'm still might go to that on the 26th here. It's sold out. And I got up the next morning

00:08:41.500 thinking, you know, this is an echo chamber. Uh, these events are echo chambers. Um, we're preaching

00:08:46.180 to the choir. Everybody there will be all in for Alberta independence. We're not spreading the word.

00:08:51.480 And at the same time, as much as I love rebel news and they need the money, they don't get

00:08:55.440 government funding that money that you spent on a ticket, 20 bucks. And all those tickets they sold

00:09:00.400 could have gone to the actual independence movement to help it out. And, and, and no disrespect to

00:09:05.380 rebel news, no disrespect to Tamera Leach and Sheila Gunn-Reed and Corey Morgan and the people who are

00:09:09.540 involved in that, no disrespect to the people who went to the event, but I want to talk to you about

00:09:15.420 strategy here. I want to read to you a letter I got, and it's, it's a little lengthy, but I, I think

00:09:20.640 this is food for thought. A guy named Ryan got in touch with me. He wrote an email to me and this is

00:09:26.020 really well-written and it talks about the strategy of the independence movement. And maybe we should

00:09:31.460 be thinking about this a different way. Would you mind if I read a little bit of this to you?

00:09:35.000 Absolutely. Okay. It's, it's really well-written. It's a little lengthy, but stick with me here.

00:09:40.420 And I think people will find this fascinating. I'm writing to you from beautiful El Salvador,

00:09:45.360 where my wife and I hastily moved after our bank accounts were frozen in 2022. As you know,

00:09:51.560 the people will push, who will push independence over the finish line are the undecided middle.

00:09:57.000 These are the people who have real articulable visceral frustrations and concerns about confederation,

00:10:02.220 but equally tangible fears about the uncertainty inherent to a newly independent nation.

00:10:08.080 This is the better the devil, you know, crowd as they hold Alberta's destiny squarely in their hands,

00:10:13.720 whether they realize it or not. I'm concerned that the independence movement is failing to model

00:10:19.160 the psychology of this group and to effectively tune its messaging to them. Specifically, my sense

00:10:25.560 is that the independence movement is placing far too much emphasis on an optimistic vision

00:10:29.860 for an independent Alberta and far too little emphasis on the terrifying prospect of remaining

00:10:36.120 in confederation. The undecided middle is unlikely to be animated by optimism. Their vote will almost

00:10:42.640 certainly be animated by fear, whether that's fear of separating or fear of remaining. The federalists

00:10:48.520 understand this, and that is why they're ramping up their fear-based messaging. They're painting a

00:10:53.800 frightening picture of a landlocked pariah state, isolated, friendless and vulnerable, a sitting 1.00

00:10:59.840 duck awaiting hostile U.S. annexation. They're casting separatists as ungrateful rubes, as childish 0.60

00:11:06.840 tantrum throwers and vile traitors. All of that may sound absurd to you and I because objectively it is 0.98

00:11:13.420 absurd, but to the undecided middle it is compelling and it sways votes. The federalists are going after

00:11:19.980 the voting bloc that will determine the outcome and their approach is informed by well-established

00:11:25.580 behavioral science. They are deploying this fear-based messaging because it works. They are a cynical,

00:11:31.900 calculating lot and it will be necessary to beat them at their own game, if it is our wish to get out from

00:11:37.740 under their thumb. If they are allowed to dominate this end of the narrative, the independence movement

00:11:43.180 will be at a major disadvantage going forward. Just a couple more paragraphs here. The undecided

00:11:48.460 middle will not find abstract, rose-colored visions of a Dubai-like future persuasive. On the contrary,

00:11:55.020 they are more likely to find such promises suspicious, too good to be true or difficult to imagine. These

00:12:01.100 folks have become so accustomed to the federal boot on their necks that they might be inclined to

00:12:05.500 continue tolerating it in order to avoid the frightening uncertainty inherent to major change,

00:12:11.020 saying to themselves, Canada isn t perfect, but at least we don t live in Afghanistan. What are those 1.00

00:12:16.460 separatists really after? Final paragraph. This segment must come to understand the terrifying future

00:12:23.020 Albertans face as part of Confederation. It is a future of escalating tyranny, escalating corruption,

00:12:29.020 deepening misery, worsening poverty, deprivation, homelessness, drug addiction, and violent crime,

00:12:35.340 where their CPP and OAS are being eroded away by inflation until retirement is as untenable as

00:12:42.380 home ownership is for their kids. And the daily life of Albertans is defined by endless struggle for

00:12:48.220 mere survival as third world conditions materialize around them. It is an outcome which can no longer be 0.99

00:12:54.300 averted no matter which federal party controls parliament. The situation is hopeless and independence is the escape

00:13:01.340 patch. In my view, that is the picture the independence movement must vividly point for the undecided. What

00:13:07.420 do you think of that? I read that the other day and I think that Ryan and Jessica, I think they're onto

00:13:13.340 something here. I know it was a lot to say, but I had to read that verbatim and that's how he wrote it.

00:13:18.220 Well, very well written for one. The thing I try to, I have this conversation day in and day out,

00:13:24.140 not only with viewers, but anytime I'm at these events, uh, like the rebel event. And the reason I

00:13:28.460 go to those is because it's hope you, you can see the hope in people. You can talk with people that,

00:13:33.500 you know, either watch the channel or just are looking for, uh, something new, uh, in their lives

00:13:39.660 by changing the forming of a new country. But I always say to people, it's kind of like a clock,

00:13:44.300 you know, there's many gears that are going to have to turn in unison in order to get us over the

00:13:50.060 finish line when it comes to independence. I think that, um, you know, one, one quote that,

00:13:56.540 that comes to mind is you never interrupt your enemy when they're destroying themselves.

00:14:01.100 Uh, I think that the federal government's doing a good job right now of painting a picture of bleak

00:14:07.420 opportunity for Canada. I think that when you look at the corruption, when you look at floor

00:14:11.740 crossings, when you look at everything that's happening in the federal government, it's very easy,

00:14:16.140 uh, for those who are in the middle right now to start getting swayed towards the path on

00:14:21.580 independence. That being said, uh, Dr. Modry had spoken up at a separate speaking event. I don't

00:14:27.820 believe it was a state free Alberta event, uh, but he had said that he believes that this movement

00:14:34.380 is going to be won by the silent majority. Keith Wilson has also said that, uh, the more you see the

00:14:41.980 shenanigans from the federal government, the more people are going to see for themselves,

00:14:46.540 that independence is the way forward, that it is the answer. The harder their lives get,

00:14:51.820 the more difficult things become. If jobs continue to leave, uh, if inflation continues to go up,

00:14:57.500 like people don't realize Alberta beef is more affordable in Vietnam than it is in Alberta.

00:15:04.780 Beef? Who eats beef anymore in Alberta? I can't afford it. No, I can't.

00:15:08.540 So those are the things, those are the things that when people start to see those things,

00:15:11.900 they start questioning, well, what's this independence thing all about? And

00:15:15.100 the problem, not, not the problem. I should say one of the points of that email that I think is, uh,

00:15:20.780 pragmatic in moving people over to the side of independence is you can't force it upon them. You

00:15:27.500 can't, uh, convince the unconvincible. There are some people, and, and I'm sure you've seen them too,

00:15:34.620 John, that no matter how many times you say, these are the treaties, these are the rules. These are,

00:15:39.340 they'll still say you're on stolen land. You can't go. There's no convincing certain individuals,

00:15:44.700 but I think, um, I think what the key should be right now is we get our signatures. We get over

00:15:52.780 the million mark on the signature, send a message, not only to Ottawa, but to the premier saying this has,

00:15:58.860 this has legs. Uh, and once we get to that campaign mode, we already know that there's going to be a

00:16:03.500 question October 19th. So the question then becomes of how aggressive do we then get with

00:16:08.540 a campaign from the middle of may all the way to October? I think that's when you're going to start

00:16:14.140 seeing a larger push from the stay free Alberta side, that these are the reasons we should go.

00:16:20.140 Um, I, I, I think that's the, that, that should be the plan forward at least because if we take our

00:16:24.940 eyes off the prize signatures will fall and, um, we'll be focused on, on issues that really aren't

00:16:30.780 relevant at this very time. You know, that, that email struck me. I was reading it and I was almost

00:16:36.300 shaking listening to it because I've been thinking about this a lot. Um, if your does sell, the

00:16:40.860 liberals got in on April 28th, right? It looked like a sure thing for Polly F, but they scared 0.98

00:16:47.500 people into voting for them again after 10 years. But I'm wondering, I did a video this morning,

00:16:52.380 whether people are really getting the message, you know, we hear these polls, whether they're true

00:16:55.740 or not about the liberals gaining ground in Alberta, uh, you know, because of fear, uh,

00:17:03.020 the liberals tell everybody that things are just hunky dory and fine and people tend to buy it. So

00:17:08.380 I don't know. I think there, I think there can be a number of different strategies going forward,

00:17:12.460 telling people what their life will be like if they stay in Canada and how much better it will

00:17:16.220 be in Alberta. I'm looking at the positive side. I see the glass half full. I think I'm fortunate a lot

00:17:21.100 of people will vote no because it's better the devil, you know, right than the devil you don't.

00:17:25.740 But I thought that was a fascinating, uh, email. I told Ryan, I was going to mention it to you and

00:17:30.380 I wanted to get your thoughts on that. Um, are you, are you still as optimistic or even more

00:17:34.700 optimistic than you have been in the past regarding our chances? Uh, whenever the question of October

00:17:40.060 19th, of course, maybe, maybe we get our own ballot, who knows that's maybe a, an argument or a

00:17:45.020 discussion for another day, but how are you feeling right now about things?

00:17:47.500 Well, I think when it comes to a separate question on its own ballot, I think, again,

00:17:51.580 that's going to come down to signatures. I think when you, when you look at the, uh,

00:17:56.540 we'll say the consensus amongst the public that there's been a lack of support from the UCP,

00:18:01.180 uh, they're going to go where the votes are going to go. And if they see again,

00:18:04.780 the targeted audience of a million plus signatures, they're going to have to make a decision that,

00:18:09.500 do we, do we start falling in line with what the independence crowd's talking about,

00:18:14.140 or do we risk losing those votes, uh, if we suppress this movement? So I, I think, um,

00:18:20.220 some things that people are disgruntled about can change between now and October, uh, in terms of

00:18:25.900 my perception, uh, after seeing what happened in Yuma, Arizona over the weekend, uh, I, I think,

00:18:32.220 I think it's safe to say we're in a good position. I think we're doing better than I thought we were

00:18:36.380 going to be doing. Um, a lot of people have commented, I don't see lines anymore. I don't see

00:18:41.100 massive groups of people, but people have to remember at the start of this process. Uh,

00:18:46.780 I believe it was when you were, I'm seeing the event in Queensland that, uh, that was,

00:18:50.540 that was one of the first lines we seen in this movement. There were very few, uh,

00:18:55.820 canvassers at that point that had badges that could get signatures. People were very eager.

00:19:00.220 Uh, I think that's over 7,500 canvassers around Alberta right now. So, um, when you look at that and

00:19:06.380 start saying, you know, if each canvasser, when you think about those lines can get a hundred signatures,

00:19:10.940 that's, that's three quarters of a million signatures right there. Um, we're, we're,

00:19:15.980 we're on our way over the finish line when it comes to the target. Now, uh, the reason we're not seeing

00:19:20.540 those lines, of course, is because we have 7,500 canvassers across the province. Uh, I went to a

00:19:25.660 St. Albert signing just two weeks ago and, uh, people were going in and out at a good pace because

00:19:31.020 it was steady, but then again, there's enough canvassers to fill the needs. So, uh, I don't want,

00:19:35.660 I don't want people to get dismayed because they don't see the lines anymore. It just means we're

00:19:39.420 organized now. And, and I believe, um, the threshold of independence, there's still some

00:19:44.300 people that are afraid to sign. Um, I want to remind anybody watching that if that's the case,

00:19:49.180 Stay Free Alberta has stated that if you contact them on their website, they will send a canvasser

00:19:53.980 to your home. Uh, so that, you know, you don't have to be in public. You don't have to have anybody

00:19:57.980 worried about doxing or, uh, things like that. I know they're starting their door to door campaign

00:20:02.300 soon. Uh, so that's, that's going to pump up numbers. And, uh, I, I think even the silent

00:20:08.620 majority that are maybe afraid to sign or are questioning if there's a viability of independence.

00:20:13.500 I think that once those numbers become available in may, that's going to start to sway some people

00:20:18.620 that this isn't a small fringe movement. It's not, you know, a couple thousand people that there's

00:20:23.900 actually a clear demand for it, that even those that are against it might start to listen. Um,

00:20:29.020 I know some people who typically vote NDP that have told me I'm on the side of independence and,

00:20:33.660 um, they're, they're being educated every day as to why the benefits are there. So hopefully I,

00:20:39.500 I think it's very possible we could hit a minimum of a 45% to 55% vote for independence as of now,

00:20:47.580 based on what I've seen, but, uh, Hey, it's anybody's game, I guess, until, until we get over

00:20:52.140 that finish line. So it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. You know, I, um, I'm 62 or 61. I just

00:20:58.300 turned 61 about a week or so ago. And, uh, in my lifetime, if, if we wait another 30 years,

00:21:03.180 like Quebec did, I'm not likely to be around. Right. So I really want this to work. You know,

00:21:07.980 you, I I'm, I'm, I'm excited about it. And when you mentioned Yuma, Arizona, I got a bit of a grin

00:21:13.740 on my face. I talked about that in my independence calendar the other day and showed some video from

00:21:17.260 it. And a lot of people have sent me messages and text messages and, and also email saying,

00:21:22.460 Hey, I'm down here. I got some more pictures coming up this weekend of people signing the petition

00:21:26.380 there. And I'll, all of a sudden my, you know, my spirits went through the roof. When I saw that,

00:21:30.700 that there were people south of the border, uh, they're signing as well. So it is really quite

00:21:34.460 an exciting time and, and a historic time as well. I mean, just think of it, um, years from now,

00:21:40.700 we all, we're all part of a pretty big thing here, aren't we? It's pretty amazing.

00:21:45.020 It's definitely something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime, because again,

00:21:47.740 I always heard people discussing it. And then all of a sudden over the last year,

00:21:50.860 it's just kind of exploded. But one thing I've heard numerous times that I think people need

00:21:55.740 to remember is that if you're ever going to support it, now is the time. I am under firm

00:22:00.700 belief that this is our only shot, that if we miss this, uh, it will either be quite some time,

00:22:06.460 like you said, similar to Quebec, or we may never see this opportunity again.

00:22:12.380 Yeah. And if you're waiting for a conservative government, there's always another liberal

00:22:15.660 government around the corner. That's the thing that bothers me about it. And, and they call

00:22:19.020 themselves a natural ruling party. You look at history, uh, they're in power more than the

00:22:22.780 conservatives are. That is for sure. Derek, it's always great to talk to you on acceptable fringe.

00:22:26.620 Here's the book, how Alberta got its independence. Let's get it to number one proceeds. Some of the

00:22:31.100 proceeds go to stay free Alberta to help the Alberta independence movement. It's a pleasure to

00:22:34.860 talk to you. Hope to see you again real soon. I'm having a, I'm going to be having a petition

00:22:38.220 signing here. We're going to have an event here. We're going to have coffee, donuts, pizza,

00:22:42.300 and everything probably two weekends from now. So I'll let you know about it. Maybe you can give it a plug.

00:22:47.260 I want people to come down. We can talk independence. I'm going to have a busker there.

00:22:51.100 Apparently a guy wants to come out and play some music for us. So I want to do something special.

00:22:54.860 So we're going to do that in a couple of weekends. So I'll let you know about it.

00:22:57.740 And if you gave it a plug, that'd be great, but it's a real pleasure to be able to help you out

00:23:00.940 with this. Congratulations on the success. Uh, and good to talk to you. Hope to see you again real soon.

00:23:05.740 You betcha. Thank you so much for having me, John. Always good to talk.

00:23:08.780 Derek Smith, unacceptable fringe. Check him out, of course, on YouTube. You can't miss him, uh,

00:23:13.660 with great commentary. Just three shows a week in the evening as well. Monday,

00:23:16.860 Wednesday and Friday. Got the big blue mug of coffee. I tip it to you, Derek. And if you like

00:23:22.220 the video, give it a thumbs up, subscribe to the channel, ring the bell for notifications. I'll see

00:23:26.300 you in the next one.

John Bolton - February 25, 2026

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