Juno News - July 26, 2021


A permanent domestic vaccine passport？


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4 minutes

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853

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00:00:00.000 there's one very small but very important aspect of the domestic vaccine passport conversation
00:00:11.460 that is currently missing it's very worrisome it should trouble a lot of people and the
00:00:15.800 conversation has to include this aspect which is sunset clauses so what is a domestic vaccine
00:00:22.820 passport well different people have different interpretations of just what it will be and how
00:00:27.440 severe it will be but the basic idea is that you got to show some form of paperwork a certification
00:00:33.080 a qr code on your phone or what have you to gain access to restaurants stores movie theaters gyms
00:00:38.880 some people even want this applied to grocery stores basically that you can deny people the right
00:00:44.080 to access food to access groceries that's how extreme how crazy some people are willing to take
00:00:49.460 this idea and so what's a sunset clause well we heard this phrase quite a lot in the post 9-11
00:00:55.400 world so we had 9-11 and then people said we got to bring in all of these regulations and laws and
00:01:00.600 so forth a lot of people critiqued it as security theater saying not all of this is actually necessary
00:01:06.360 we feel a little uncomfortable with this it's very onerous so here's what we got to do we got to bring
00:01:11.600 in sunset clauses with some of these provisions meaning these laws on the books they can't stick
00:01:16.520 around forever i mean that would just be crazy so they can only be on the books for two years or three
00:01:21.200 years or five years or whatnot and then once that time elapses they have to be subjected to judicial
00:01:25.800 review or they have to be renewed in a way where people actually have to vote on it and so forth that
00:01:30.720 legislation congress whatever has to convene has to deal with this issue so the basic idea this thing
00:01:36.360 it will go away in a couple years unless it's re-ratified and then we cross that bridge when we
00:01:41.320 come to it and we have that debate and that societal discussion then i'm not hearing anybody using the
00:01:47.360 phrase sunset clause or any sort of exit strategy when it comes to domestic vaccine passports in
00:01:53.260 canada and their advocacy for it that is incredibly concerning i mean maybe you think okay i'm concerned
00:01:59.680 maybe there's going to be some sort of fourth wave i'm worried these vaccines they don't actually do
00:02:03.860 their job they don't work or what have you you have some concerns okay a lot of people have concerns
00:02:08.100 fair enough so you think i'm really worried maybe there's going to be a fourth lockdown i think that the
00:02:13.000 best way to avoid a fourth lockdown i want to bring in these domestic vaccine passports i don't support
00:02:17.520 that idea but even if you do are you actually supporting the vaccine passport just for this
00:02:22.820 little hurdle just to get us over the next little hurdle okay fine but what you should know is well
00:02:27.840 once they're on the books and once this is caked into the system it's there do you want to be doing
00:02:34.140 this 10 years from now 15 years from now i know everyone says oh what's the big deal you have to carry
00:02:40.280 your driver's license wherever you go and then you know there's the immunization chart in most
00:02:44.220 provinces for kids going to school and so forth it's not a big deal sorry you're telling me for
00:02:48.600 the next 20 years for the rest of your natural life you want to have to produce your phone or
00:02:54.100 something a qr code whatever it is to be able to just buy groceries or just go into the movie theater
00:02:59.920 nothing like that has ever been done before in our society so even if you kind of support the vague
00:03:06.180 broad strokes idea of it or you're not too sure but you are concerned about stuff that's coming
00:03:10.740 around the corner potential other waves variants and so forth that's not the question right now the
00:03:16.180 question based on the fact we're talking about this without sunset clauses is do you want life to
00:03:23.560 permanently be like this for this foreseeable future if you're a business owner do you want to
00:03:29.180 have to badger people every single customer for the rest of time about this issue do you want to
00:03:34.600 actually have to hire someone specifically to just deal with this issue and by the way risk fines
00:03:40.180 yourself if you don't do it 100 perfectly because some jurisdictions already talking about this
00:03:44.840 they're not just going to find the person uh who who manages to get in without the proper vaccine
00:03:50.340 forging their documents or what have you or you know it's not just about turning away customers which
00:03:54.900 a lot of businesses don't want to do you could also face fines for not managing this passport system
00:04:00.500 perfectly so there's a lot of questions a lot of details that need to be worked out that i think
00:04:05.260 people in canada aren't seriously reflecting on yet and we got to do it
00:04:09.200 you