Juno News - A Preview of Trump’s Wrath

00:00:00.000 Hi, welcome to the Candice Malcolm Show. I'm your host, Candice Malcolm. It is great to be with you.

00:00:10.340 I hope everyone had a wonderful, wonderful weekend and you're ready to hit the ground running on

00:00:14.860 Monday morning like I am. So usually to prepare for the show, I will go through and read all of

00:00:20.420 the legacy media. I personally like to listen to podcasts. I go for, if I'm going for a walk or if

00:00:26.620 I'm getting ready or just, you know, all the kids are getting ready for school, I will throw on a

00:00:30.860 podcast and listen to it. I had never listened to this one before. So I was listening to CTV's

00:00:35.740 national news podcast this morning. And I just need to tell you about it because it was so ridiculous.

00:00:39.880 Like Canadian media is fake news. And I think this story tells you exactly why. So their top story of

00:00:45.540 the day was obviously Trump, Trump, Trump, orange man, bad. And specifically they were talking about

00:00:50.480 this idea that Trump had said that Canada, Canadians would have better healthcare if they became part

00:00:56.200 of America. And then CTV like interviewed some people just scoffing at that. Like how, how dare

00:01:01.860 he, how dare he say that Canadians would have better healthcare. And then they, they, they dwelled on

00:01:07.900 this issue saying that, that, that Trump says that Canada is subsidized by United States. And again,

00:01:15.120 complaining about that saying like, how dare he say that we're not subsidized. And I kid you not,

00:01:19.920 right after that segment ended, they did a teaser for the show, for the news stories that they were also

00:01:24.940 covering and the two news stories that they were also covering. So, so again, just started out by

00:01:29.540 complaining about Trump on these two issues. How dare he say about, they have better healthcare

00:01:33.380 than us. And how dare they say that we are subsidized by them. Okay. The next two stories

00:01:37.920 that they previewed. The first one is this story about how the U S coast guard was called in to rescue

00:01:44.160 a Canadian ship on Lake Erie, U S coast guard. So the U S military is working to release a 660 foot

00:01:51.980 Canadian freighter that got trapped in thick ice on Lake Erie over the week. So, so, you know,

00:01:57.540 not, not, not like Canada is like dependent or subsidized by the American military, except for

00:02:02.640 that is literally happening right now. Canadians can't get out of thick ice on Lake Erie. So they

00:02:08.020 had to call in the coast guard, had to get the U S military to help us. That was the first story

00:02:11.520 they previewed. The second story that they previewed was about the Saskatchewan nursing shortage,

00:02:16.840 how the province is being hit hard by a total lack of healthcare. And the story was about a rural town

00:02:23.420 in Beauville called Beauville, Saskatchewan that has been left without any healthcare for two weeks

00:02:28.360 due to a shortage of nurses. Sad story, horrible story, but Hey, guess what? This is what happens

00:02:33.760 when you have a socialized healthcare system, when your government healthcare system is provided by

00:02:39.640 taxpayers, there will be shortages. There will be rationing of care. That is literally what's happening.

00:02:44.440 The story went on to, to detail how most nurses don't stay, how it's very hard to retain nurses, 0.91

00:02:51.320 how they're very overworked, which is all very true. My mom was a nurse. I get it. Nurses aren't

00:02:56.200 treated very well in our system because of our socialized system and the rationing, and it puts

00:03:01.100 too much pressure on individual nurses. So just way to go. Legacy media, your whole premise that

00:03:07.740 Canadian healthcare is better and that Canada doesn't need the United States was undermined by your own

00:03:12.160 reporting in your own podcast. Like two seconds later, you couldn't make it up. It's, it's,

00:03:16.480 it's better than parody. Um, but that's, that's Canada that we live in. Um, so, you know, uh,

00:03:21.920 probably have to listen to a different podcast. Hey, a good time to preview, uh, to promote my own

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00:03:41.840 and don't forget to subscribe to the channel. Okay. So we saw a little preview of president Donald

00:03:48.000 Trump's wrath coming over the weekend. This is an incredible story. Really, really incredible. Some

00:03:52.800 people will call it Trump bullying, but to me, it's just incredibly effective leadership. So Trump hits

00:03:58.940 Columbia with a tariff threat. So let me set this up for you. Donald Trump posted this onto his own

00:04:05.500 truth social on Sunday evening. And, uh, let me pull it open so that I can just read it to you. He

00:04:11.260 explains exactly what happens. He says, I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the

00:04:17.020 United States with a large number of illegal criminals were not allowed to land in Columbia.

00:04:22.700 This order was given by Columbia's socialist president, Gustavo Petro, who is already very

00:04:29.020 unpopular amongst his people. Petro's denial of these fights has jeopardized the national security and

00:04:34.380 public safety of the United States. So I have directed my administration to immediately take

00:04:39.340 the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures. So first a 25% tariff on all goods coming

00:04:48.460 into the United States. Next, he has, uh, that one in one week, the tariff goes up another 25%

00:04:56.220 up to 50%. Oh my goodness. Makes it much, much worse here. He says he will implement a travel ban,

00:05:02.380 an immediate visa revocation on Colombian government officials and allies and supporters.

00:05:09.100 Next, he says visa sanctions on all party members, family members, and supporters of the Colombian

00:05:14.780 government. He goes on basically to say that they won't allow, be allowed to do financial, uh,

00:05:20.460 their financial institutions will be frozen. He says, these measures are just the beginning.

00:05:24.700 We will now, we will not allow the Colombian government to violate its legal obligation with

00:05:29.180 regard to the acceptance and return of the criminals they forced into the United States.

00:05:35.500 Wow. Wow. That really hits him with where they hurt, you know, it's brutal enough to implement a

00:05:40.620 trade, uh, tariff like that. You know, Colombia's number one trading partner is the United States.

00:05:45.820 Uh, 25% now another 25%. Obviously that would bankrupt the country bankrupt like every business that was

00:05:51.340 going in Colombia, but the travel bans were the hilarious part because you know that this is always how

00:05:56.940 it happens in these corrupt countries where government officials and their families are

00:06:00.620 actually living large in like Miami or New York city or Los Angeles. Um, while, you know,

00:06:05.420 they don't have to live through the horrible repercussions of their socialist governments,

00:06:09.580 um, down in whatever country they're in. And so they all live in the U S. So, so by him saying an 0.95

00:06:14.540 immediate travel ban and visa revocation for all of your family, for all the government officials and all

00:06:19.980 of their family members, like get out. Um, you, you know, that they got a lot of very, very angry, uh,

00:06:25.340 phone calls on that one. Um, look, I, I just think this is effective. I, uh, uh, readers and, um, viewers

00:06:31.900 know, um, but prior to me starting true north, I worked in the Canadian government. I was the press secretary

00:06:38.220 to the minister of immigration, and this is a very real issue. This is real. So what happens is you have a

00:06:44.700 very bad person in your country and you want to deport them. You want to deport this very bad person

00:06:49.820 back to the terrible country that they came from. And they've come to our country to sometimes 1.00

00:06:54.300 illegally, sometimes legally broken a bunch of laws. They are now eligible for deportation. You

00:06:59.100 want them to go. Um, but the problem is that they don't have any documents, right? When they came to the

00:07:03.820 country, usually when they pretend to be refugees and make asylum claims, they will leave their passport,

00:07:09.100 throw it in the garbage, flush it down the toilet, light it on fire. They want to get rid of their 1.00

00:07:13.820 previous documents because they don't want to be sent home. And so it's a, it's a legitimate problem.

00:07:18.700 You have a very bad person in your country and you want to deport them and you actually have no way

00:07:23.580 to send them home unless the government cooperates and issues them a new passport. So in this case,

00:07:28.620 if you had a very bad person from Columbia and you want to deport them to Columbia,

00:07:32.540 the Colombian government would have to cooperate, issue them new, um, passports so that they can

00:07:38.860 actually get into the country. Um, Canada deals with this all the time. Like I said,

00:07:42.460 it was press secretary for the minister of immigration all the way back 2011, 2012.

00:07:46.940 This is a very real problem. Canada deals with it too. Um, but we don't have this,

00:07:51.580 you know, we don't have a bombastic leader. Um, someone who is willing to just go absolutely,

00:07:57.180 all out in order to make sure that these bad people can leave the country. Um, and so Trump

00:08:02.220 is doing something I think very good. I think that Canada should do this kind of thing. I think Canada

00:08:05.900 should work with Trump in, Hey, at the same time, why don't you take your very bad people, uh, back from

00:08:11.260 Canada as well. So, so Trump's threats, absolutely devastating. Um, and initially Colombian government,

00:08:18.860 Gustavo Petro, uh, initially responded by saying no. So he posted this, the United States cannot treat

00:08:25.260 Colombian migrants as criminals. Um, I deny the entry of the American planes carrying Colombian 1.00

00:08:30.780 migrants into our country. The United States must establish a protocol for dignified treatment of

00:08:35.260 migrants before we can receive them. Um, so that's what he said. Uh, that's not going to cut it.

00:08:41.660 That's not going to cut it because again, the foreign leaders are used to getting to do this

00:08:47.100 way and getting their own way, just saying, no, we want better treatment. We're not going to take

00:08:50.380 them back. We're not going to cooperate because there hasn't been a leader in a country like Donald

00:08:54.380 Trump. There hasn't been a leader in a country like Canada or the United States that is willing to

00:08:58.220 just say, absolutely not. We actually have a lot of power over you. We have a lot of things that we do for

00:09:04.140 you that we don't have to do. We're doing it out of the goodness of our heart, or we're doing this,

00:09:07.900 um, for you and we don't have to do it for you. And this is what's going to happen. These are the

00:09:11.820 consequences. Um, of course, I don't always mean to pick on Andrew Coyne. It just so happens that he

00:09:16.540 usually says the stupidest thing, um, in the news stories that I want to talk about. So Andrew Coyne

00:09:21.580 immediately goes to celebrate Colombia. Um, this is just hilarious. So this is, um, you know, he,

00:09:27.580 this is what he writes. Good for Colombia. The key is for all democratic countries to resist

00:09:31.900 Trump's bullying together, uh, just as all of the democratic forces inside the US need to.

00:09:38.300 So basically he wants Canada on the side of the Colombian criminals and socialists.

00:09:44.620 A good call there, Andrew Coyne. Yeah. Canada should stand with Colombia in this. Literally,

00:09:49.100 we deal with the same problem. We have the same issue trying to deport people who won't let us. 0.95

00:09:53.100 So Andrew Coyne is cheering on the socialists in, uh, Colombia in their defiance. Um,

00:09:59.740 except for like two minutes later, they caved. So might want to delete that tweet, Andrew Coyne.

00:10:04.620 So following Trump's tariff threat, the Colombian government did a very quick about face. They did

00:10:09.740 not want their visas to be revoked. They did not want their family members to be kicked out of Miami

00:10:13.900 or New York or wherever they might be living. And basically just said, not only will we take these

00:10:18.780 criminals back, but we will send our own presidential airplane to pick them up. So yes, 0.58

00:10:25.740 that is very effective. That is very comical. That is how you get things done. My friends,

00:10:30.780 that is how you get things done. You put your money where your mouth is, you put it all on the line,

00:10:35.580 say, look, this is how, this is how it's going to be from now on. And if you don't cooperate,

00:10:39.260 there will be consequences, not just for your country, but for you personally and your corrupt

00:10:43.660 regime. And that was very exposed. So yes, I have to say, I'm worked up about this. I think Canada

00:10:50.060 should do the same thing. We might not have the same, um, ability to, uh, promote change like that

00:10:54.940 around the world. Like we don't have as much at stake with people, you know, having visas to be

00:10:59.260 able to come to Canada, uh, or with our trade. Um, but again, we should be partnering with the United

00:11:03.820 States to say, Hey, let's secure all of North America. Let's get all of our criminals out,

00:11:08.460 help us deport these people and we'll work with you in the future. I think Canada should be striking

00:11:13.580 a deal like that. Okay. Trump ups his rhetoric against Canada. So we'll get into

00:11:19.020 this, uh, little tit for tat that's happening between Trump and possibly Pierre Polyev. So on Friday,

00:11:24.540 Donald Trump told reporters that he would still love to see Canada as a 51st state adding that

00:11:29.740 Canadian citizens, if it happened, would get a very big tax cut. And I think this is a clip where

00:11:34.940 he also said that Canadians would get better healthcare. Let's play that clip.

00:11:40.060 I would love to see Canada be the 51st state. Uh, the Canadian citizens, if that happened,

00:11:45.820 would get a very big tax cut, tremendous tax cut, because they're very highly taxed. Uh,

00:11:52.140 and, uh, you wouldn't have to worry about military. You wouldn't have to worry about

00:11:56.060 many of the things you'd have better health coverage. You'd have much better health coverage.

00:12:00.940 So I think the people of Canada would like it, you know, if it's explained.

00:12:05.260 Fact check. True. Yes. We would have lower taxes and better healthcare if we join America. Now that

00:12:10.220 might be controversial to say that we'd have better healthcare. Um, because yes, there are people in the

00:12:14.380 United States who go bankrupt because they can't afford their medical bills. I'm not saying that the American

00:12:19.180 healthcare system is perfect. I have a lot of criticisms about the way that insurance is issued.

00:12:24.140 Um, the reality is that anybody who is in the bottom, like 50% of the country gets government

00:12:29.340 healthcare insurance, um, gets government insurance in the United States. Um, all people who have a job 1.00

00:12:34.940 and are employed also have healthcare through their provider. I personally have an anecdote. I, um,

00:12:40.860 have had healthcare in both Canada and the United States. I've been pregnant in both countries and seen

00:12:45.420 care and it is bar none head and shoulders better in the United States. I was in California. So granted,

00:12:52.620 you know, I was in a, um, affluent part of the state and we were on my husband's work health insurance.

00:12:58.380 So we had very, very good health insurance. My experience in the United States were always very,

00:13:02.140 very positive. Um, I was pregnant during COVID and I was in Toronto. And let me just tell you,

00:13:08.460 I felt like I was in a refugee camp. Um, going to the OB, going to the doctor during pregnancy

00:13:14.540 in Canada was not a good experience. Um, yeah, wouldn't recommend it. Uh, I know that everyone

00:13:19.900 has their own experiences, but my experiences in Canada from everything, like my husband needed

00:13:23.900 stitches last year and he had to sit in the emergency room in Toronto for like 12 hours,

00:13:28.620 watching people get stabbed, watching drug addicts, um, all around. Everyone has these kinds of stories.

00:13:34.380 Uh, but yeah, healthcare in Canada, isn't that great. It is a problem. Trump, uh, kind of,

00:13:39.820 you know, poke the bear with that one, making, uh, hitting Canadians where it, where it hurts 0.93

00:13:44.220 because we love to pretend that we have superior healthcare. Uh, even though I think deep down,

00:13:47.660 we all know that we don't and COVID really exposed that also, of course, uh, Canadians would, uh,

00:13:53.420 get a very big tax cut because, uh, we, we showed this before, but, um, I think it was a Fraser

00:13:58.380 Institute did a study of the tax rates per jurisdiction in North America and the 10 Canadian

00:14:04.620 provinces were like the top 10 jurisdictions for highly taxed. Even low tax Alberta is higher tax

00:14:10.540 than the highest tax states like California and New York. So yes, we would have a tax cut.

00:14:16.380 Now, Pierre Polyev stepping up, we hadn't really heard in detail what his position is when it comes

00:14:22.540 to Trump dealing with Trump and the potential trade war. Uh, basically we have, you know,

00:14:27.420 the whole spectrum, Justin Trudeau over here saying nothing's off the table. We'll do anything,

00:14:31.660 including possibly and potentially an embargo on oil. And then on the other hand, you have Danielle

00:14:35.820 Smith, um, saying not going to happen, not a good idea. Let's not hurt ourselves even further.

00:14:41.100 Let's not engage in a, in a trade war. I think that, uh, Pierre Polyev kind of strikes a nice

00:14:46.460 balance here comes out sort of in the middle. Um, not really advocating for a trade war, but saying

00:14:51.820 that, you know, push comes to shove, that's where he would go. So let's watch this clip.

00:14:57.100 President Trump is a deal maker. He wants to win, but we're both going to lose as Americans and

00:15:03.580 Canadians if we get into a trade war. So what I would say is let's, how, how do we position

00:15:08.860 the decision for him so that he understands that America can only win if it allows open,

00:15:14.380 unbridled free trade with Canada. So I would retaliate and I would target products and services

00:15:20.220 that a, we don't need, b, we can make ourself and c, that we can buy elsewhere so that we maximize

00:15:27.340 impact on the Americans while minimizing impact on Canadians. Uh, secondly, I would pass an emergency

00:15:35.420 bring it home tax cut on work, investment, making stuff in Canada, energy, home building,

00:15:42.620 so that we can stimulate more economic growth here. Uh, three, we need to become more self-sufficient.

00:15:48.940 That means knocking down barriers, more interprovincial free trade. We have a freer

00:15:53.740 trade with the Americans today than we do with ourselves. We have to knock down those barriers,

00:15:58.220 build pipelines, uh, LNG liquefaction facilities to sell our stuff to the world without having to go

00:16:04.780 through the Americans. If they're going to be an unreliable trade partner, we've got to find ways

00:16:08.940 to sell more to ourselves and more to the rest of the world. Do you see it as a dollar for dollar

00:16:12.540 retaliation? I w I would say so. Yeah. It has to hit hard. And, um, again, we have to be very

00:16:18.940 pinpoint and surgical to make sure we're maximizing impact on the American side while minimizing impact

00:16:25.100 on our side. So Pierre making it clear. I know a lot of conservatives were celebrating that clip.

00:16:30.060 I don't see it quite that way. I don't think it's in Canada's interest at all to go down this path of

00:16:34.540 a trade war. I don't think, uh, even I get that his point is that you want precision and that you got

00:16:39.580 to hit them where it hurts. Uh, it's not going to hurt them nearly as much as it's going to hurt us.

00:16:43.820 We're not in a position economically to be strong enough, uh, to withstand that, uh, not to mention

00:16:49.020 the fact that we desperately need the Americans as is evident by our ship that is trapped in Lake

00:16:54.140 Erie in the ice. And immediately the Americans come in, um, you know, out of the goodness of 0.96

00:16:58.940 their heart, you know, they could have said no, but they wouldn't, they wouldn't leave 17

00:17:02.460 people stranded on a ship. That's, that's how many people were on that boat. Um, that I showed you

00:17:06.140 earlier in Lake Erie, uh, they're going to come in and they're going to rescue those Canadians.

00:17:10.220 Um, and the fact that, you know, that that's hardly in the news, that story is hardly even out there.

00:17:15.340 This fact, this fact that the Americans are coming in rescuing Canadian workers,

00:17:20.700 rescuing our ship that is trapped in the ice at Lake Erie. Um, we should be thanking the Americans.

00:17:26.300 We should be friends with them. We should be promoting the friendship. I think Pierre should

00:17:30.540 go down and talk to, uh, talk to Trump one-on-one, um, and make a deal. Uh, but you know, that,

00:17:36.540 that kind of talk, I guess, I guess that's what it takes to win an election or to just be seen

00:17:42.060 as moderate in, in Canada these days. But I would like to see, uh, Canada get on board with working

00:17:48.380 with Trump, making a deal. He's our ally. He's our friend. Uh, their boats are rescuing our boats as

00:17:52.940 we speak. Um, so let's not jeopardize that relationship. Um, all that's to say that those

00:17:57.980 tariffs look to be coming in on February 1st. So we will be reporting on that, uh, later this week as it

00:18:03.980 happens. And again, hopefully, hopefully it doesn't, you know, Trump said day one,

00:18:08.380 day one didn't happen. I think there's still room for negotiation. I think that there's still room

00:18:12.540 for Trump to change his mind. Um, there's a lot going on in the world, a lot going on

00:18:17.340 on Trump's agenda. So hopefully it isn't a top, top priority. Uh, we do have one Canadian politician

00:18:22.940 who's sort of using Trump to his advantage. We heard, uh, that Ontario premier, uh, Doug Ford will

00:18:29.100 call an election this week. So premier Doug Ford confirms that he will call a snap election

00:18:35.260 on February 27th. He's to make that announcement later this week. Of course, there isn't supposed

00:18:40.940 to be an election until, uh, 2026. Um, of course the last election was in 20, uh, 2022, uh, Ford got

00:18:49.660 a majority then he got his first majority back in 2008. So this is his, uh, second straight majority

00:18:54.940 is supposed to be a four year term, but this is what Canadian politicians do. They read the polls,

00:19:00.380 they look for an opportunity and they would rather, you know, Doug Ford thinks that he can run an

00:19:05.820 election against Donald Trump. Uh, so somehow the provincial government needs a mandate, uh, to deal

00:19:11.180 with Trump. I don't, I don't quite understand that one, but I think Trump is just using, or sorry,

00:19:15.500 Ford is just using this to his advantage. His, uh, PCs are riding very high in the polls. Uh, latest polls

00:19:22.220 show him at 46 or 47 percent, um, potentially winning 108 out of the 122 seats in the, um, Ontario

00:19:33.020 provincial parliament there. So, um, you know, and of course the liberals are still in shambles

00:19:38.460 provincially. Uh, I think that Doug Ford is kind of doing a favor to Justin Trudeau and the liberals

00:19:43.980 right now. Um, really the reality is that we need a federal election. We need a federal election

00:19:50.140 so that someone with a clear mandate can go in and negotiate with and talk with Donald Trump.

00:19:56.700 We need the liberals out. Justin Trudeau resigned or said that he was intending to resign and then

00:20:01.500 he didn't actually resign. He said that they're going to have a leadership race instead. And now

00:20:05.100 we're waiting for that. That's not right. That's not right. Canadians deserve an election now.

00:20:10.220 I started a petition on my website. You should go check that out at CandaceMalcolm.com. Signed my

00:20:15.580 petition urging for an election. Uh, once we get enough signatures, we're going to take it to the

00:20:20.140 governor general and demand Canadians demand an election because we need a federal party to deal

00:20:26.300 with Trump. Provincial party, you know, now that there's an election that's happening in February,

00:20:31.260 there's no way that they're going to call a national election because Ontarians can't go to the polls

00:20:36.380 simultaneously at the same time, or at least that'll be the argument. So thanks Doug Ford because of you,

00:20:41.340 it seems like we are going to have to wait a little bit longer, uh, to replace the liberal

00:20:45.500 party and get a new federal, um, government. And again, this is what politicians do, right?

00:20:50.540 This is what Justin Trudeau did. Justin Trudeau really wanted a post COVID, um, referendum on his

00:20:55.820 leadership because the worst had still yet to come. So that's why he prompted that 2021 campaign after

00:21:01.500 saying that he thought that it would be reckless, uh, to campaign in the midst of a pandemic. Um, he

00:21:06.460 himself triggered an election because he saw that he was higher in the polls than the conservatives

00:21:11.340 at the time and leader Aaron O'Toole. So he pushed that knowing full well, I mean, if you look at,

00:21:17.020 uh, Trudeau's trajectory, if he had not had that election in 2021, if it had even gone another six

00:21:22.620 months until the spring of 2022, I think Justin Trudeau would have lost handily. Keep in mind,

00:21:27.900 the trucker convoy happened in January of 2022. Um, that is when people really, really got fed up

00:21:34.300 with the COVID nonsense, with the mandates, uh, with the government control, everything about it.

00:21:39.900 It was just like, absolutely enough is enough. Another year where kids weren't properly in school,

00:21:44.300 where they were forcing us to wear masks, where they were pushing all kinds of insane edicts that

00:21:49.100 made no sense, not to mention, um, the wrath of the vaxxers, like absolute madness. And it would have

00:21:56.700 fallen apart for Trudeau. So it was quite smart from a political perspective for him to push the election

00:22:00.780 2021. Um, not that I was happy with the outcome. I thought it was terrible, but, um, this is what

00:22:06.540 politicians in Canada can do. They can get away with this kind of stuff because we let them, uh,

00:22:11.500 well, this is kind of a funny story. So, you know, Doug Ford famously, uh, put on a hat saying Canada's

00:22:16.860 not for sale, kind of, uh, showing the other side of, you know, it looked like a Trump hat. It looked

00:22:21.980 like a Make America Great Again hat. Uh, do we have a picture of it there, Sean? Yeah. So there's his hat.

00:22:27.580 Canada's not for sale. Uh, well, a funny story that those hats of course are not being made in

00:22:32.780 Canada. Canada's not for sale. So let's manufacture our hats in some sweatshop in, in Vietnam, Bangladesh, 1.00

00:22:40.380 or China. Um, apparently you can't really have hats made in Canada these days. There's not,

00:22:45.980 there's not a lot of people making hats. Um, and you know, the whole idea, um, well,

00:22:50.940 basically those hats are selling out. They're selling like hotcakes because Canadians, uh, love the

00:22:55.100 idea of standing up and being tough. Uh, you know, but the idea is that we can't even make these hats

00:23:00.380 in our own country. It's kind of, kind of sad, kind of pathetic. Um, so, you know, Doug Ford's

00:23:05.900 going to have an election. We will cover it for you here on the show. And don't forget to check out,

00:23:10.700 uh, True North tnc.news, sign up for the newsletter over there. They will, uh, be covering this election

00:23:16.540 very closely and giving you all the latest. Okay. Let's move on to, well, I want to talk to you about the

00:23:22.540 liberal leadership race. Um, the latest of that before I do, I'll, I'll, I'll show you one more

00:23:27.740 poly of clip. Um, is this a clip or is this a, yeah, this is a clip. So, uh, conservative leader,

00:23:33.340 Pierre Polyev called on Mark Carney. This is good to ban Trudeau cabinet ministers from cabinet. So

00:23:39.740 we all know that Mark Carney is pretending to be an outsider. He's pretending that he was totally,

00:23:44.460 totally different and not involved at all in Justin Trudeau's a horrible time as prime minister.

00:23:50.300 You know, it's, it's a bit unfortunate because there's news reports dating back to 2020,

00:23:53.980 um, talking about how Mark Carney was an advisor, uh, to Justin Trudeau. There was always rumors that

00:23:59.340 he was going to swoop in at any point and become the finance minister. Um, and you know, not, not,

00:24:04.700 not exactly an outsider, but nonetheless, Mark Carney is running as an outsider. So Pierre Polyev basically

00:24:09.820 said, again, put your money where your mouth is, uh, published an open letter to Mark Carney,

00:24:13.580 calling on him to ban any Trudeau minister from serving in cabinet. Um, and he was asked about

00:24:21.580 this, um, while campaigning with Francois-Philippe Champagne on Sunday, Carnot, Carnot responded to

00:24:29.180 Polyev, um, saying that he has no respect for half the country. Uh, let's play this clip.

00:24:35.900 Mr. Polyev, he wants to control everything. He wants to insult half the country. He doesn't have

00:24:41.980 respect, uh, for the deputies. He doesn't have respect, uh, for the people. Uh, and, uh, the

00:24:47.180 Canadians will have a real option in the next election. I think he's scared is the first thing.

00:24:51.020 Uh, why is he writing me a letter on a Sunday morning?

00:24:56.140 I don't think that, uh, Pierre Polyev is scared, but that's, that's the line. Uh, it would be

00:25:01.020 interesting. I think that that's a good point. I think that if Mark Carney truly was an outsider

00:25:05.180 and truly recognized the scope of the disaster that was the Justin Trudeau government, he should

00:25:09.820 commit to having a new cabinet altogether. Um, and so of course, interestingly, while, uh,

00:25:17.020 Carney tries to run, run far away from Justin Trudeau on his record, um, Trudeau's cabinet

00:25:22.300 ministers are now consolidating their support around Mark Carney. So on Saturday, we had

00:25:28.220 Transportation Minister Anita Nan released a video endorsing Mark Carney, saying Mark

00:25:33.500 is, uh, has the ability to steer Canada during very difficult times. Let's play that clip.

00:25:38.220 Over the past weeks, I've taken time to think about what is best for our country, our party,

00:25:45.980 and our beautiful town of Oakville. I've spoken with liberals, including the amazing supporters with

00:25:52.700 me today, to discuss what is best at this time in Canada's history. And we agree that Mark Carney is

00:26:04.060 the leader that Canada needs. I worked with Mark during the global financial crisis almost 20 years

00:26:11.340 ago. And I saw at that time, that Mark has the ability to steer Canada during very difficult times

00:26:19.260 and to ensure that Canada comes out on top. Okay, brutal, brutal video. Um, interestingly, um,

00:26:29.020 again, more and more of these cabinet ministers are coming and endorsing and supporting, um, Mark Carney. So,

00:26:36.060 I think we have a CBC tracker, don't we, Sean? It shows how many MPs are supporting, um, each, each, uh,

00:26:44.460 leader, leadership, uh, hopeful. So, um, Mark Carney is, is way up ahead in that count with 52, uh, caucus

00:26:52.060 members and liberals supporting him. Whereas Chrystia Freeland only has 26, uh, Caterina Gold only has two.

00:26:58.860 Um, not exactly an endorsement for Chrystia Freeland. It's pretty wild, right? It's like

00:27:02.940 Mark Carney is a so-called outsider. Um, Chrystia Freeland has been part of the team day in, day out.

00:27:09.580 The fact that she can't even get her own colleagues to support her, um, it's pretty damning in, in my mind.

00:27:16.380 You would think, you know, she was a deputy prime minister. She was a finance minister. She took the 0.96

00:27:21.500 principled stand, um, to leave caucus before Justin Trudeau tried to fire her and boot her out as,

00:27:27.020 as she claims. Um, so the fact that, that so many of the liberal MPs are going with Mark Carney,

00:27:34.300 I think that tells you a lot about Chrystia Freeland. The fact that her own colleagues don't respect her, 0.99

00:27:39.580 don't like her, don't want to leave the party. Maybe it's strategic. Maybe it's because they think that

00:27:43.660 she's too close to Trudeau and that she, um, you know, that, that, that the Canadian 0.98

00:27:49.660 public would reject her as leader because she'll be just be seen as like, you know, a part of the 0.99

00:27:54.540 Trudeau government. Uh, but really, you know, she, she's, she's, she's been there. She's had a long

00:28:00.540 time to work on those friendships and those relationships. So the fact, again, that 52 are with

00:28:05.580 Carney and only 26 with Freeland. Um, ouch. I, you know, I've heard a theory that a lot of the MPs are,

00:28:12.380 are kind of ticked with Chrystia Freeland right now, possibly saying that, you know, if it weren't

00:28:17.900 for her leaving caucus, leaving cabinet, sorry, leaving cabinet, stepping down as finance minister,

00:28:24.140 um, that this chain of events wouldn't have happened. Trudeau wouldn't have, have resigned.

00:28:29.020 He wouldn't have stepped down. He would still be prime minister. They would still be able to sort

00:28:32.700 of hobble along until the October election. Justin Trudeau is a known quantity when it comes to the

00:28:37.900 election. He's, he's, he's a good campaigner that, you know, there's not very much that I will say

00:28:42.220 good about Justin Trudeau. I won't compliment him at all. I think he's a terrible prime minister,

00:28:46.300 terrible leader, terrible on policy, terrible speaker, everything, everything. Um, objectively

00:28:50.300 though, he's run three campaigns in a row and that is seen as his, uh, strong point. His, his strongest

00:28:56.380 skill is campaigning. Uh, whereas, you know, Carney, Freeland, whoever the next liberal leader, uh, will be,

00:29:02.220 they've never campaigned nationally. They've never led a party before. Uh, so, you know, odds are,

00:29:06.300 they won't do very well, odds are, Canadians won't be happy. So it's possible that MPs are

00:29:10.860 still a little grouchy at Freeland, a little bit bitter, um, that this all happened and blaming her

00:29:16.540 for that. You know, the reality is that the liberals are not going to win whenever there is election.

00:29:20.940 If there's an election, uh, in the future, hopefully sooner rather than later, um, the liberals aren't

00:29:25.900 going to win. Canadians are going to send them a big, big message telling them just how displeased we

00:29:30.540 are with their record and their time in office. Uh, it doesn't really matter if it'll be

00:29:34.780 Carney or Freeland. Uh, but my, my money right now is certainly on Mark Carney. Uh, also over the

00:29:41.100 weekend, we had defense minister, Bill Blair and the newly appointed housing minister, um,

00:29:48.380 Nate Urxell Smith also endorsed Mark Carney. Uh, so we'll get into this story a little bit. Um, Mark

00:29:55.980 Carney and Nate Urxell Smith were doing a event together in the beaches, um, a nice little neighborhood over

00:30:04.700 in East Toronto. And basically, I mean, this is, this is, this is a little wild. So I'll play this

00:30:10.860 clip. Um, Melissa Lansman, who is a conservative MP and I think she's a deputy leader of the party.

00:30:16.860 Um, she interrupted, um, this event that was happening nearby with, um, Mark Carney and Nate Smith.

00:30:24.380 So she was interrupting him and then she was speaking to reporters and he came up and he interrupted

00:30:29.100 her and they got into a little bit of dispute. I know a lot of people were really, really outraged

00:30:33.500 about this happening online. A lot of conservatives were very, very upset that this male MP put his

00:30:38.620 hand on the female MPs shoulders. Um, I'll play the clip. You can, you can draw your own conclusions. 0.80

00:30:45.180 Let's, uh, let's play that clip now. So yeah, so you can see there that, that they were kind of

00:31:02.140 joking around. He was saying, I want to buy you a drink. Let's talk. Um, she was saying, she was

00:31:06.620 kind of trying to push him away so she can continue to give her speech to the press. And then he kind

00:31:11.020 of comes back in and he, and he, and he touches her shoulder. And so the conservatives screenshotted

00:31:16.140 that picture of him touching her shoulder and tried to make a big, big deal about it. You saw a

00:31:21.020 lot of, um, conservative commentators on social media saying, you know, get your hands off her,

00:31:25.500 never touch her. How dare you? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, the reality is that she was kind of

00:31:30.380 crashing his event and he was kind of trying to crash hers and it looked like it was all in fun. I'm not

00:31:36.540 one of those people who are going to make a big, big deal. Like how dare you? Um, you know, it's

00:31:41.420 politics, they're campaigning. It's all about showmanship. Um, they were each trying to updo

00:31:46.620 each other. I don't know, maybe I'm missing something. Let me know in the comments if

00:31:49.580 there's something that is deeply, deeply wrong here that I'm missing, but I, I just, uh, I can't make

00:31:55.580 myself, uh, get worked up over something like that. Okay. Let's get back to the liberal leadership race.

00:32:02.940 So Ruby Dahle, um, his campaigning, she released a clip, uh, with, with an interview of herself.

00:32:10.380 Um, this is a former Brampton MP who's now running for liberal leadership, or she's a hopeful for that

00:32:15.740 race, uh, Ruby Dahle jumping out and saying, let's deport, uh, calling on deporting illegals out of 1.00

00:32:22.620 Canada. Let's play that clip. Well, they want, I mean, it's a very good question, but they want to

00:32:27.260 send back people that have just jumped the border illegally. And I also actually agree with that 1.00

00:32:32.140 approach. If you've come to Canada illegally by illegal means, then you need to be deported out 0.99

00:32:37.420 of the country. I think that, you know, when it comes to any type of crime and that is criminal

00:32:43.580 because you're coming here illegally, if you come illegally into this country, you need to be 1.00

00:32:49.660 deported. And as soon as you start laying down the gamut, and as soon as you start becoming very

00:32:55.340 strict on these immigration policies, I think that you're naturally going to have a reduction.

00:33:02.380 Okay. Let's just all pause for a moment and appreciate this moment. Okay. As someone who

00:33:06.940 has been talking about immigration publicly for at least a decade, um, somebody who has often said

00:33:13.500 just that if you come to our country illegally, you have to be deported. We are a country that respects

00:33:18.940 the rule of law. We are a country based on order and law. If you come here illegally, you cannot stay.

00:33:23.980 You have to go. Um, you know, it used to be considered, uh, really offside for someone to say that.

00:33:30.140 I have been accused of all kinds of things, um, ranging from xenophobic, uh, to racist, to anything

00:33:36.220 else, just for stating this fact that if you come to our country illegally, you have to go. So I just 1.00

00:33:41.420 want to stop and pause and say, this is a breath of fresh air. I'm not going to vote in the liberal

00:33:45.980 leadership race. I'm not a liberal. I would never support someone like Ruby Dalla to lead the country. 0.98

00:33:51.900 However, the fact that a liberal is saying this shows us just how far we've shifted the Overton

00:33:57.660 window in this country. Just how much things have changed. It used to be considered edgy or offside,

00:34:03.020 um, to say something like this. And now it is mainstream. Everybody agrees. The liberals have

00:34:07.980 broken our immigration system. They've broken the consensus and enough is enough. So, so I, I welcome 1.00

00:34:14.620 this. I think it's great. I think that the liberal party should be more right-wing. I think that they

00:34:18.460 should be more anti-immigration and more anti-illegal immigration because it would push the federal

00:34:24.140 conservative party, uh, again, to be better on immigration. Um, the more kind of hawkish you have

00:34:29.980 a liberal party on this issue, it gives conservatives, you know, they have to break away and do something

00:34:34.780 different. So it would make the conservatives be stronger as well. Uh, do I think Ruby Dalla is 1.00

00:34:40.700 going to win? No, probably not. I don't think she has a great chance of winning, but I like,

00:34:44.300 I like hearing this. It's the same as, you know, if Christy Clark were going to be leader, like,

00:34:47.980 look, I don't support Christy Clark. I don't much like her. Um, I don't want the idea of a carbon tax

00:34:53.260 coming in. And that was sort of her marquee platform, marquee program and policy from when she was

00:34:57.980 the liberal premier of British Columbia, but she's certainly more conservative than the rest of the

00:35:02.620 liberal party. And so having a liberal leader, that's a bit more conservative is a good thing.

00:35:07.580 If they can run down the center or even center, right, it would force the conservatives to stake

00:35:12.380 out more positions on the right, better positions when it comes to our economy, lower taxes, freer

00:35:19.660 trade, less immigration, all this kind of stuff, cracking down on crime. Um, you know, if, if we have

00:35:24.700 a more centrist liberal party, that's better for everybody. And again, I, if, if there's any silver

00:35:30.620 lining from this whole, you know, Justin Trudeau prime ministership and him blowing up his party,

00:35:35.340 is that maybe hopefully, um, the party will move more back to the center or even a little bit to

00:35:41.180 the right. Okay. There was a little bit of another update on this liberal leadership race. This is that

00:35:45.660 MP Chanda Ara has been disqualified from the leadership race. So on Sunday, liberal leadership

00:35:51.820 hopeful announced that he had been informed by the party of his disqualification from the race,

00:35:57.580 adding that the decision raises significant questions, but the legitimacy of the leadership

00:36:01.980 race and by extension, the legitimacy of the next prime minister of Canada. Well, he's right about

00:36:07.260 that. I don't think that the next prime minister of Canada will have a lot of legitimacy given that

00:36:12.060 they're not being selected in a federal election. They're just being chosen by their own party in a

00:36:17.660 system that's not very transparent or secure. Um, certainly that is right. Uh, if Justin Trudeau had

00:36:23.580 any honor, he would just call an election. He would lead the party into the election,

00:36:27.580 allow Canadians a choice as to who will be the next prime minister, but because he's not,

00:36:31.980 because he cares much more about his own legacy and his political party, he is not allowing that.

00:36:36.940 He probed parliament so that they can have this liberal leadership race. Um, the next prime minister

00:36:41.900 will not have any legitimacy. So he's right about that. Um, I don't know if it will make it any worse

00:36:46.460 that he has been disqualified. I don't know that Canadians, uh, will know or care. Um, according to Aria,

00:36:51.740 he said that he met the deadline to submit his nomination party, uh, his, sorry, his nomination

00:36:56.300 papers. He previously announced that he had submitted the application package to the Liberal

00:37:01.020 Party of Canada. That was on January 21st. He also said he submitted the $50,000 compliance deposit

00:37:07.500 to the leadership contest. He received over a thousand endorsements nationwide and more than 200

00:37:12.940 endorsements from each of the three provinces meeting or exceeding all of the requirements for leader.

00:37:20.540 So why, why was he kicked out? Why do you think that he was kicked out of the party? Uh, lots of theories

00:37:27.740 as to why, um, one of the things that was floating around the Liberal Party's national leadership rules

00:37:34.700 allow party officials to vet potential candidates to deem whether they have been, um, have they,

00:37:40.780 whether they have satisfied mandatory criteria. Um, and if they are manifestly unfit for the office of the

00:37:49.420 Liberal Party of Canada, they can be, um, kicked out. So maybe it was party brass just saying,

00:37:55.580 look, we really don't want this guy. Um, I, I point this out that he did this CBC interview. He did,

00:38:02.620 um, an interview with power and politics host David Cochran, where not only did he admit that he had

00:38:09.980 lied when he said that he knew how to speak French on his parliamentary, um, website, it says preferred

00:38:15.740 languages or English and French. Well, in this interview, he first admitted that he does not

00:38:21.740 know how to speak French. So he lied. And then he went on to say that French isn't very important.

00:38:26.620 Uh, French, who cares, who cares about French? He says in the Liberal Party, um, that, that Quebecers are

00:38:32.140 really just English Canadians. Um, I think we have that clip. Let's play that clip.

00:38:36.940 How's your French? Nope. No? No French? No French. Okay. The Liberal

00:38:41.820 Party of Canada is the party of official bilingualism. It's going to be a tough one. I,

00:38:44.460 I don't speak French either. So I, I, I, you know. The point is that whether the Quebecers are

00:38:49.020 English Canadians, it's not the language that matters. It's what is that they deliver to them. 0.67

00:38:53.660 But the language matters very much in Quebec. No. At the end of the day,

00:38:57.580 Quebecers see who delivers what. You know, we have English speaking, French fluent, uh,

00:39:03.100 Prime Minister for all the time. One of the things that matters to Quebecers are being a sovereign

00:39:07.340 country, a sovereign republic. Yeah. And which, uh, but, like, Prime Minister has ever talked about that.

00:39:12.700 Mr. Arya, if you're going to run for Prime Minister, I mean, you have to know that the French language

00:39:17.260 matters and French, it matters in Quebec. Trust me. Profoundly. Trust me. At the end of the day,

00:39:22.860 for French Canadians and English Canadians, the matters most is that how the children and

00:39:27.420 grandchildren are going to prosper in this country. That is the thing that matters.

00:39:33.100 No, language doesn't really matter. You're wrong, CBC. You're wrong, Liberal Party. Quebecers don't 0.99

00:39:37.500 care. Uh, of course, I don't, I don't think it matters. I think that if you were the leader of the

00:39:40.860 Conservative Party and you didn't speak French, it would be perfectly fine. Um, the Liberal Party requires 1.00

00:39:45.820 so much support from Quebec in order to govern. Like, they cannot govern without getting almost universal

00:39:50.780 support out of Quebec. Uh, so this guy was just wrong. My, my guess is that was the reason that got him

00:39:57.660 kicked out. Although there are other theories, uh, circulating online, some of them very, very fun. So,

00:40:03.500 you know, there was a campaign. I don't, I don't know if it was serious or if it was just sort of being

00:40:07.660 funny, but many Conservatives or Conservative-minded Canadians were talking about how it would be great

00:40:14.220 if they joined the Liberal Party. So, oh, just, just a second, Sean. Don't get far ahead of me here.

00:40:20.460 That it would be great if Conservatives would just take out a Liberal Party membership. It is free.

00:40:27.020 Anyone can do it online. It doesn't cost any money. All you have to do is just fill out a form. Anyone

00:40:31.740 can do it. So, urging Conservative-minded Canadians to take out a party membership just so that they can

00:40:37.900 go online and vote for this person who would clearly be a terrible candidate federally, who

00:40:43.100 would, who would decimate the Liberal Party. My opinion, the Liberal Party is going to get decimated

00:40:47.660 anyway, so you don't need to put up a terrible candidate. Even if you put up the best candidate

00:40:52.380 possible, which I think probably they believe is Mark Carney, your party will still get decimated.

00:40:57.260 Uh, but you know, this is kind of like the meme, um, the meme taking over real life saying,

00:41:02.220 let's, let's make a mockery of our political system and the Liberal Party. So,

00:41:05.820 you had Rick Hillier who is a Conservative-minded person and he writes, we need about 250,000

00:41:14.780 people to join the Liberal Party and vote for Chanda Arya as leader. Check out the number and

00:41:21.580 the reach on that tweet, 400,000, sorry, 900,000 views on that one. So, you know, tons of people saying,

00:41:30.780 yes, everybody, um, take out a membership, vote this guy in, possibly, maybe, maybe that was why

00:41:36.860 the Liberals said, look, this guy has to go because they were afraid that he might actually win.

00:41:42.060 That because of the absolute joke that is their leadership process, their whole leadership system,

00:41:47.820 that anyone could join in that it doesn't cost any money. So like, you don't even know who the people

00:41:51.740 are. Uh, you know, I've heard reports and stories of people's dogs getting registered as a Liberal

00:41:58.060 Party. We had a Trump supporter who wrote in, uh, saying that he started getting emails saying that

00:42:02.540 he had registered for the Liberal Party, uh, leadership race, even though he's not a liberal

00:42:07.260 and he never did. Someone just, you know, threw his name and email address in. It's super easy.

00:42:11.500 Anyone can do it. Um, I think that points to what a joke, um, this party is that they can't even

00:42:17.340 secure their own leadership race and this idea that anyone can vote, uh, rather than this individual.

00:42:22.620 But, you know, if I were running the Liberal Party and I found, I saw that tweet and I saw a lot of

00:42:26.620 people signing up, um, and a lot of signs pointing to the fact that this guy might be leader, um, yeah,

00:42:32.140 it might not be a bad idea to disqualify him. Um, it's not like the Liberals really care about

00:42:36.540 democracy. We know that. Um, there's also some rumors, um, circulating online that perhaps it was,

00:42:41.820 uh, connected to foreign interference. Perhaps this person has a past, um, you know,

00:42:47.180 in, um, there, there is that report coming out of the MPs who, you know, are suspected of being

00:42:53.980 involved in foreign interference that are being funded by foreign governments. Um, so some speculation

00:42:59.260 that this individual might be connected to Modi in India, just pure speculation, uh, not making any

00:43:05.660 accusations there, but, uh, lots and lots of reasons why this individual might have been removed. Uh, let me

00:43:11.980 know in the comments what you think. Uh, would you think that the Liberals just dodged a bullet there?

00:43:16.140 And, uh, would you have liked to see, um, Aria perhaps potentially as the leader of the Liberal

00:43:24.540 Party? Okay. Well, I want to, uh, switch focus here and, uh, talk a little bit of the NDP. Um, the NDP

00:43:30.780 is a party that's in a total mess. You know, I, I just talked about the mess that is the conservative

00:43:35.580 party, but the NDP party are also in a mess. I was really pleased to catch up with an individual

00:43:41.580 named Julian Newman, um, last week, and I'm going to play you that interview. So before I do, I'll just

00:43:46.860 explain a little bit about it. So Julian is a spokesperson for a group that's organizing a

00:43:51.900 petition to have, uh, Jagmeet Singh, um, basically they wrote an open letter to Jagmeet Singh,

00:43:59.500 basically just saying that the government is, the Liberal government's one of the worst governments in

00:44:04.060 Liberal history. Canada's facing a dire, uh, potential trade war with the United States. The Liberal

00:44:09.660 Party is in disarray, um, and asking that he withdraw his support from the Liberal Party,

00:44:15.020 forcing an election as fast as possible. And so, um, Julian is a spokesperson for that group.

00:44:22.620 He was previously the NDP's head organizer under Tom Mulcair. He was head of Quebec operations

00:44:30.060 under Jack Layton. And you'll hear, he tells personal anecdote about his time working with Jack Layton

00:44:35.420 and how far the party has fallen, uh, since those days, he's currently instructing a philosophy course

00:44:41.180 at Princeton University. It was really a pleasure to catch up with Julian. So here is that interview.

00:44:48.380 Hi, Julian. Thank you so much for joining the show.

00:44:51.980 Thanks for having me.

00:44:52.860 So tell us about this letter that you've put forth and what it is that you're trying to do.

00:44:57.660 Yeah. So we, we came together a group of 35 senior former NDP staffers and, uh, former NDP members of

00:45:08.620 parliament. And it's important to stress the former cause, uh, Jagmeet has threatened to sue me personally.

00:45:14.860 Uh, so, um, that's important, but, uh, yeah, so we were 35 folks. We started a conversation with, uh, the new

00:45:23.660 democratic party's leadership in December. We were trying to tell them like, Hey, there's an upcoming

00:45:29.900 trade war and Canada needs a government. Obviously they didn't listen. Uh, so we got, uh, started a

00:45:38.300 petition and got a thousand NDP members and NDP, uh, voters to sign that petition over a few days over

00:45:45.740 the holidays. And our goal is to say like, Hey, Jagmeet, you are not taking this seriously. And it's

00:45:52.780 important that we trigger an election as quickly as possible, uh, pretty much to avoid the situation

00:45:58.940 that ended up happening. Well, you know, it's frustrating from my perspective and maybe more

00:46:04.780 from the conservative perspective that a small party with not that many seats, uh, relative to

00:46:10.300 the other parties has this balance of power. One person Jagmeet Singh has extraordinary power and has

00:46:16.460 been propping up a terrible government that again, in my opinion, should have been toppled years ago,

00:46:22.060 at least one, maybe two years ago. Um, and so it's interesting to see that even NDP members and

00:46:28.460 sort of, uh, people who used to, you know, hold positions of power in that party, uh, feel the same

00:46:34.780 way. So, uh, do you think that this is a sentiment that's broadly felt across the sort of base of the

00:46:40.860 NDP party? Do you think that this is more something that's bothering people at the top? Let me describe,

00:46:46.620 your interactions with other members of your party and how people are viewing this.

00:46:51.660 Yeah. My strong belief is that this is how the vast majority of NDP voters, the vast majority of NDP

00:46:59.100 members, pretty much everybody outside of the Ottawa club, uh, feels, uh, it took us four days to get

00:47:08.700 a thousand people to sign our petition. Uh, so, and we'd always hear people saying like, Hey, it's great

00:47:16.700 that you're, uh, that you're doing that. So, so my, my strong impression is at least in the NDP circles,

00:47:24.700 people agree with you. Well, I mean, it just seems so obvious. It's like, you know, Trump is coming in

00:47:29.340 with a mandate from the people to be tough on this kind of thing. And so, you know, you know,

00:47:34.220 that he's in, in firm, in firm positions with his, uh, you know, with his country and what he's doing,

00:47:39.420 whereas Canada doesn't really have a government. I mean, things have just gotten worse since Justin

00:47:42.540 Trudeau has resigned because rather than trigger an election and letting Canadians decide who our next

00:47:46.940 prime minister will be, it's now the liberal insiders that get to choose who the next prime minister

00:47:52.460 will be, who will be at the table across from Donald Trump negotiating this. So how was your

00:47:57.260 petition and your letter met? You mentioned there that Jagmeet Singh is now suing you. Uh,

00:48:02.380 so why don't you walk us through what happened after you submitted your petition to the party?

00:48:06.940 Yeah, they're very unreceptive. Uh, their, their perspective is we, or at least what they stated

00:48:13.980 is we need to stop poly-up. That's kind of how they think about it. Um, how we think about it is

00:48:21.020 what is the best thing for Canadians? What is the best thing for working class Canadians? I think 0.82

00:48:26.140 that's probably how you think about it. That's how most Canadians would think about it. That's not

00:48:30.780 how they think about it. They think about how are we going to stop the Conservatives? Um, and you know,

00:48:37.660 a really good example of how they reacted is that they, uh, sent me threatening legal letters, uh,

00:48:44.300 personally, uh, afterwards.

00:48:46.380 Well, if, if you're anything like me, that would just motivate me even more, uh, to, to raise these

00:48:51.420 kinds of issues. So if Jagmeet Singh is not willing to listen to members of his own party and do what's

00:48:56.940 best for Canadians, I mean, it's kind of wild at this point that he thinks Polyev is the biggest threat

00:49:01.020 to the country, given that what Justin Trudeau has put us through, uh, for the last nine years and

00:49:05.500 specifically for the last two or three years, uh, with the economy. Um, like at what point will your party

00:49:13.260 just oust this leader and say, listen, if you're not going to look out for the best interests of the

00:49:18.060 Canadian people and the members of the NDP, you can't leave this party anymore.

00:49:23.180 There was a lot of pushback on Jagmeet around the, uh, what they call it, the new thing that they call

00:49:30.220 the war measures act, the, the emergencies act. There's a tremendous amount of pushback internally,

00:49:37.180 uh, not publicly at the time. And nobody came out publicly for a variety of reasons. Part of it,

00:49:45.660 presumably is that these guys are super hostile and they'll, they'll, they'll threaten to sue you

00:49:50.460 if you talk out, uh, speak out against them. Um, and, and it's, uh, it does like, I think one of the

00:49:59.260 things that you could, you know, see as a non new Democrat is that people are, have been upset for a long

00:50:06.460 time over how Jagmeet is essentially not a new Democrat, right? He, the supposed leader of the

00:50:14.620 party, but is he left wing? How is he left wing? Uh, how is he a new Democrat? Like how the NDP is a

00:50:21.580 party, the only party that opposed the war measures act, uh, against it in the elder. Uh, and for some

00:50:31.660 reason they, they didn't, they supported the, this using the same, you know, extrajudicial powers,

00:50:39.260 uh, against protesters. Um, that was really odd. That was very non NDP. Uh, nobody spoke out publicly

00:50:48.300 that I know of, um, you know, that again, they're doing something completely insane in my opinion right

00:50:54.540 now. And the differences that folks are, are speaking out right now is just me. Uh, you know,

00:51:00.460 we have other issues and, uh, soon we're going to start having, you know, more senior people from,

00:51:07.900 from, uh, from the party coming out, uh, and, um, and speaking up.

00:51:13.660 Well, I'm, I'm glad you noticed it too, because from my perspective, it's like,

00:51:17.020 in what world is an NDP leader, the one that's just so, you know, interested in power and self

00:51:22.620 preservation that they're willing to put up with like unbelievable civil liberties assaults.

00:51:27.660 Uh, it seems like the party really has shifted sort of to the cosmopolitan center, uh, rather

00:51:32.780 than representing the sort of blue collar, uh, concerns, working class concerns, uh, that the,

00:51:39.100 the party traditionally aligned with. Look, I mean, I won't complain because it's probably

00:51:43.340 good for the conservatives since many of those voters are heading on over, uh, to the political

00:51:47.660 right. We saw this with Donald Trump as well, but it seems to me that this is a historic opportunity

00:51:53.420 for new Democrats because the liberals have just been so God awful. Like they've put the country

00:51:59.340 through such hell over the last nine years that I imagine that the party will get decimated in the

00:52:04.140 next election. I imagine that Canadians will want to send a message of fury to prime minister,

00:52:09.100 Justin Trudeau, something that the liberals have not seen. Like I could imagine, uh, the party getting

00:52:14.060 wiped out similarly to the way that the progressive conservatives got wiped out in 1993. Um,

00:52:19.340 the only problem is that the alternative is, is sort of part of the same bandit, right? Like, like

00:52:26.300 Jagmeet Singh has propped up the government, uh, for the last several years, uh, two minority

00:52:31.340 situations in a row. And so it's like, well, who, who are we going to send a message to? Um, there

00:52:36.380 isn't a great alternative. Whereas the NDP, you know, with a different leader and, and with a different

00:52:40.380 message, um, could, could be poised to do what they did back in 2011, uh, with, I think the, the leader

00:52:45.980 that you worked with Jack Layton, uh, where he really, you know, captured the imagination,

00:52:50.780 especially in Quebec. And we saw that big orange wave. Um, it's too bad that the, uh, NDP isn't

00:52:56.700 better positioned. Um, hopefully you can help, uh, fix, fix, fix that party and, and, uh, you know,

00:53:02.700 create a better alternative. Uh, what, what, what do you think of all of that?

00:53:05.980 I, I, I, I a hundred percent agree with what you're saying. I'll, I'll give you a story

00:53:10.780 that kind of like illustrates that your point. I, when I worked for Jack, I would constantly

00:53:16.860 try to get them to wear nicer ties and he would refuse to wear nicer ties. He was like a really

00:53:23.100 working class guy. Um, eventually I convinced them to wear nicer ties by just giving him all of my ties. 0.80

00:53:31.820 And in the 2011 campaign, he campaigned with my ties and I actually lost all my ties because as you know,

00:53:38.220 he passed away and, uh, you know, it was a little bit rude to go and try to take my ties back.

00:53:43.100 Um, that is completely the opposite of Jagmeet who's, you know, on the cover of GQ

00:53:49.980 walking around Versace bags, right? Like Jack Layton was a new Democrat. If Jagmeet is the complete

00:53:56.860 opposite, um, in my opinion, he's just not like, he's not leading the NDP. He's off on a tangent and,

00:54:07.100 um, sooner we can get rid of him. I think the better it will be for, for the party. And there's

00:54:12.780 a great opportunity right now, as you say, where, uh, the, the liberal party is collapsing. Uh, you

00:54:19.420 know, if they end up with Chrystia Freeland and she's a disaster, if they end up with Mark Carney,

00:54:24.780 I mean, this is like a banker from London, like the time for the NDP to shine, uh, they're going to

00:54:31.580 fail in, uh, in the next election, but there is an opportunity and I hope we can, you know, move the

00:54:39.420 party in a direction where the opportunity can be taken advantage of, uh, you know, to rebuild and

00:54:45.180 hopefully end up with a system like in the UK where you have the labor and the conservative party,

00:54:50.700 that's the natural way it should be. Uh, and there's no reason why we can't create that,

00:54:56.540 that, that future as, uh, as new Democrats, um, other than the fact we have just a horrible leader.

00:55:03.740 Right. Well, for part of my ignorance on this, but what is the mechanism for

00:55:07.420 ousting a party leader in the new Democrats? Do you have to wait until after an election

00:55:10.700 for a leadership review? I mean, you mentioned the Versace bags true north, uh, broke a story

00:55:15.340 last month of Jagmeet Singh jumping into a Maserati on Parliament Hill. We're talking about like a

00:55:20.860 hundred thousand plus dollar vehicle. Um, and he, he said it wasn't his, but he didn't say whose it

00:55:25.820 was. I mean, it's not like you, you call Uber and they send a Maserati. Like it was obviously someone

00:55:31.260 in his family or in, in his entourage driving around in a vehicle like that, uh, doesn't, doesn't

00:55:36.300 really say, uh, Hey, I'm out looking out for the best interest of working Canadians. Uh, how, how, how would

00:55:42.380 your party go about getting rid of, uh, this individual as leader? Yeah. It's like the liberal

00:55:48.540 party of Canada, it's not really clear how you oust the leader in the new democratic party. Uh,

00:55:55.180 the members can do that at conventions. So you can have a leadership review pretty easily. Um,

00:56:01.740 so they're kind of like mechanics to do it are easy. The challenge is, you know, organizing people

00:56:08.620 to go and, um, and, and actually vote and you need to, um, it's just not in the DNA of the party

00:56:15.980 to kind of shiv its leaders. Like the liberals just did to, uh, to Justin. Uh, well, and the

00:56:22.460 conservatives did to Aaron O'Toole not, not too long after he lost the 2021 election. So, uh, the

00:56:27.900 conservatives were brave enough to do it, ended up with a better leader. Uh, hopefully, uh, somehow

00:56:33.100 your party will figure out a way to, um, move on in that same way. Well, uh, Julian, it's great to

00:56:38.060 talk to you. Thanks for joining, uh, the Canis Welcome Show. I hope to have you on again soon.

00:56:41.740 And thank you, uh, for your efforts for Canadians. Thank you. Well, that was a great interview. I

00:56:49.340 appreciate Julian Neumann's time. Maybe you'll say, Hey, Canis, stop giving advice to the far left

00:56:53.660 party. Like we don't want them to have a better leader. Uh, we want them to go down in flames as well. 0.98

00:56:58.460 Uh, look, I, I want nothing more than for NDP and Dugmeet Singh to go down in flames. They

00:57:03.900 absolutely deserve it for what they put Canadians through, but eventually people on the left,

00:57:08.780 left-minded Canadians will want an alternative. Uh, I hope many of them will come over to the

00:57:13.340 right. I hope many of them will vote for Pierre Polyev and help us usher in a better government

00:57:17.820 in Canada. Uh, but the ones that are staunch lefties, they deserve better leadership. They deserve

00:57:22.780 someone who will represent their interests. Just like I think that Canada would be better off if we had a

00:57:27.260 liberal party that was a little bit more right-wing, a little bit better on issues like spending and

00:57:31.180 immigration because it would force the conservatives to be even better. I think that the left deserves

00:57:36.060 a party, um, that is connected to the working class, that is connected to the concerns of working

00:57:41.580 class people. Uh, and that is not Jagmeet Singh. Jagmeet Singh has been an absolute horrendous, uh, leader

00:57:48.700 and, uh, his, his, his legacy in Canada will not be a good one. All right, I'll leave it at that.

00:57:54.140 Thank you so much everyone for tuning in. We'll be back again tomorrow with all the news. Thank you.

00:57:57.900 I'm Candace Malcolm and this is the Candace Malcolm Show. God bless.

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