Juno News - February 03, 2025


A Trade War will DESTROY Canada


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58 minutes

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10,822

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729

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Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hi, and welcome to The Candace Malcolm Show. I'm your host, Candace Malcolm. Wow, what a weekend,
00:00:12.900 folks. We have so much news to get to. And wow, things are just happening so fast here. So as you
00:00:19.440 saw, on Saturday night, Donald Trump did what he said he was going to do. Trump introduced tariffs
00:00:25.500 on Canadian goods. So 10% on oil, 25% on everything else. That means that anything made in Canada and
00:00:32.640 sold into the United States will face a new 25% tax. The tax will be paid by American consumers.
00:00:39.720 But by design, the new high tax will make our Canadian products less competitive, more or less
00:00:46.020 forcing Americans to purchase other products made in the USA. That means that anything produced in
00:00:52.300 Canada will no longer have access to the free market to sell in the US to the American market.
00:00:58.540 Now, make no mistake, this will be absolutely devastating. Canadian exports into the United
00:01:04.180 States make up about 19% of our entire economy. It's about $440 billion per year. But Prime Minister
00:01:11.700 Justin Trudeau, who let me remind you if you need reminding, he resigned on January 6, and he has no
00:01:18.180 business leading this negotiation. But because we haven't had an election, we're stuck with him.
00:01:24.260 And he has reacted in kind. He announced on Saturday night that Canada will introduce our own 25%
00:01:30.420 tariffs on American goods. Now, again, let's be clear. This is a 25% tax paid by Canadians on goods
00:01:39.140 imported from the United States into Canada. That's about 44% of all imports which come from the United States.
00:01:46.580 So Trump's tariffs mean that Canadian businesses will go bankrupt and Canadians will lose jobs.
00:01:52.340 But these retaliatory Canadian tariffs introduced by Justin Trudeau will mean that the price of
00:01:58.260 absolutely everything in our country is about to go up once again. So yes, on top of the GST,
00:02:04.580 the HST, on top of the carbon tax, and on top of the inflationary tax brought on by big government
00:02:10.500 spending, borrowing, and the printing of money, Canadians will now pay an additional 25% tax on
00:02:16.660 most goods sold in Canada. Folks, this will bankrupt millions of Canadians. It will plunge our struggling
00:02:24.100 loony even lower, and it will create, undoubtedly, it will create a recession. Trudeau has destroyed
00:02:31.460 Canada. And now, on his way out, he's pouring gasoline onto a raging fire. Now, equally as infuriating
00:02:38.820 to Trudeau's retaliatory tariff tax is the fact that the new tax is being applauded, cheered on and
00:02:46.020 applauded by the entire political class, Laurentian elites and Canadians alike. There's a weird consensus
00:02:52.900 in Canadian politics right now that Trump is a villain, that Trudeau struck the right tone in his
00:02:58.100 Saturday evening address, and that retaliatory tariffs are the only option. Justin Trudeau, Mark Carney,
00:03:05.060 Pierre Polyev, Doug Ford, and just about every pundit and journalist in the legacy media all agree.
00:03:11.620 Well, unfortunately for Canada, they are all wrong. A trade war will destroy every Canadian. It will
00:03:18.180 destroy our country, as much as it hurts, as much disdain as we may have for Donald Trump, or believe that
00:03:23.940 he is a bully. The only way to save Canada is to find a way to negotiate a deal with Donald Trump. The whole
00:03:32.420 concept of bullies only respond to strength or that we need to fight fire with fire is wrong in this
00:03:38.500 instance. Trump is a 500-pound gorilla. If you provoke him, he will tear you apart limb by limb. We've seen
00:03:46.500 this movie before. Trump will double and triple down. He will introduce more and more tariffs. Look, Donald
00:03:54.340 Trump has a sweeping mandate in his country right now. Americans want the border secured and they want
00:04:00.580 to make better economic deals to keep American jobs. That's the reality. And this is where Trudeau's
00:04:07.380 strategy from day one, from the day that Donald Trump won the election, has been absolutely
00:04:13.460 catastrophic. Remember, Trump first commented on the tariffs in late November. Right after that,
00:04:20.500 Justin Trudeau hopped on a plane to visit Trump at his residence in Florida at Mar-a-Lago. But things
00:04:26.260 didn't go very well for Trudeau. It seems that Trudeau angered Trump. He provoked him. He poked the
00:04:32.580 proverbial bear. And perhaps most damagingly of all, Justin Trudeau told Trump that a 25% tariff would
00:04:41.060 kill the Canadian economy. That is what Trump said, that Trudeau told him that it would kill our economy
00:04:47.620 and kill our country. Here is Fox News' Peter Doocy reporting at the time.
00:04:52.500 And tonight we're getting some new details about that Trump Trudeau dinner from two people who were
00:04:58.340 at the table. We are told that when Trudeau told President-elect Trump that new tariffs would kill
00:05:04.980 the Canadian economy, Trump joked to him that if Canada can't survive without ripping off the US to
00:05:10.820 the tune of 100 billion dollars a year, then maybe Canada should become the 51st state and Trudeau could
00:05:18.340 become its governor. So why would Justin Trudeau say that? Why would he tell Trump Canada's greatest
00:05:26.660 weakness? It seems to me that as soon as Trudeau put that idea into Trump's head that Canada can't
00:05:32.820 survive as an economy or as a country without America, well, Trump decided to test the theory. Now,
00:05:39.620 that interaction between Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau led to Justin Trudeau more or less firing
00:05:45.780 his finance minister, Chrystia Freeland, who then resigned a few days later. And a few days after that,
00:05:50.900 Justin Trudeau himself resigned. Trudeau got us into this mess and he sure won't be the one to get us
00:05:57.300 out of it. So now he's cynically digging in his feet and destroying our entire economy and our country
00:06:03.140 and our place in the world just to try to win back support for his liberal party. It makes me sick.
00:06:09.460 Well, Trump said that if Canada retaliates with our own tariffs, then so will America. It's right
00:06:16.180 there in black and white in Trump's executive order on trade. So here we are with a crippled economy
00:06:22.980 waiting for the final death blow from Trump. Okay, so what should Canada do? Well, let me tell you what
00:06:30.020 I would do. First, I would lock down the borders. I would close immigration entirely and I would start
00:06:35.940 swiftly deporting anybody in our country illegally. Anyone in our country that is on a terror watch list
00:06:42.980 and any foreigner convicted in the drug trade. We have to take this seriously. We need to secure
00:06:48.820 our border, secure our country, get the bad guys out. Second, I would stop all drugs coming and going
00:06:55.780 from Canada. We would relentlessly go after those making the drugs, moving the drugs, those importing
00:07:01.540 and exporting the drugs across our shared border with the United States. Canada needs to arrest,
00:07:07.780 prosecute and deport any foreign criminals. And number three, we need to crack down on regime
00:07:14.020 sponsored criminal gangs in Canada, including Chinese, Sikh, Mexican, Iranian and any other foreign
00:07:19.860 gangs operating in Canada. We need to beef up our law enforcement and go hard against criminals. We need to
00:07:26.660 clean up our country. And then after that, yes, there is an opportunity as Pierre Polyev has been advocating
00:07:33.060 for to truly free our economy and start to recover from the 10 disastrous Trudeau years. This was again
00:07:40.020 suggested by Pierre Polyev. So what do we have to do? First, break down into provincial trade barriers and
00:07:45.140 truly free up our country. Number two, we need to open up our oil exports by building pipelines, terminals,
00:07:52.100 seaports and allowing our oil to get to other markets. Number three, we need to massively lower
00:07:58.420 taxes and make Canada more competitive. Finally, we need to rebuild our military finally hit that 2% of GDP
00:08:06.500 goal. It is long overdue. It is embarrassing. Canada needs to build up its military. And now when it comes
00:08:12.740 to dealing with Donald Trump, I believe that Pierre Polyev should jump on an airplane to Washington
00:08:18.340 yesterday. He should do it as soon as possible. He should do it now to meet with President Donald
00:08:23.140 Trump. He hasn't done it so far. I get that there's some risk. I think that Pierre Polyev has to do it.
00:08:28.260 He has to try to negotiate a better deal. So here is how Canada's Conservative leader Pierre Polyev can
00:08:34.180 avert disaster, save Canada and get an early election at the same time. So look, on Saturday night
00:08:41.540 during his speech, Justin Trudeau said he admitted that Donald Trump will not take his calls. Trump is
00:08:47.780 done with Trudeau. I don't blame him. As far as I'm concerned, as far as most people are concerned,
00:08:52.100 Trudeau is on the way out. He should be treated as irrelevant. Remember, he resigned. Usually when you
00:08:57.460 resign, it means you leave. But Trudeau didn't leave. Instead, he prorogued Parliament so his own
00:09:02.660 party could rebuild. This is anti-democratic. It makes Trudeau illegitimate in the eyes of many,
00:09:08.900 including presumably Donald Trump. Now the country is on a knife's edge and Trudeau, with the full backing of
00:09:14.820 Canada's corrupted media and the Laurentian elites, is betraying Canada's best interest. Polyev should
00:09:20.660 hop on the plane and tell Trump these important facts. He should plead with Trump. He should tell
00:09:25.700 Trump to please wait. Wait until Justin Trudeau leaves. Wait until there's an election. Trudeau is
00:09:31.220 on his way out. He is loathed and despised by many Canadians and he is no longer legitimate. Polyev should
00:09:38.180 assure Donald Trump that on March 24th, Parliament will come back and the Liberals will lose a confidence vote,
00:09:44.180 triggering an election. At that point, Pierre Polyev is projected to win a sweeping majority. And by May
00:09:50.980 2025, God willing, Polyev will be the Prime Minister and in a position to strike the better deal.
00:09:57.300 Polyev should tell Trump that his first priority in government will be to return Canada to having
00:10:03.460 strict immigration rules, securing the border and introducing the harshest penalties in the world
00:10:09.140 against drug dealers and criminal enterprises and also commit to growing our military to help protect
00:10:15.140 the North and contribute our share to securing the hemisphere. Now, Polyev can strike a new deal with
00:10:21.140 Trump. It would look something like this. Wait for the election. Pierre Polyev wins. Give us 90 days to
00:10:26.660 fix this mess. If Polyev can fix it, then no tariffs. Now, if Polyev loses the election and it remains to be
00:10:32.580 liberal rule, or if Polyev fails to fix the mess, then Trump can introduce the tariffs as planned. Now,
00:10:38.740 could you imagine what this would do? Imagine the possible upside for Polyev. If Trump were to come
00:10:43.780 out and say, okay, I'll pause the tariffs until there is an election in Canada. Let the democratic process
00:10:50.660 play out. That would force Trudeau to actually walk away and actually have an election, which is what we all
00:10:57.060 want. Pierre Polyev would go down in history as the most successful prime minister elect in history by
00:11:03.460 saving the country from an economic disaster, a calamity of a trade war before he was ever even
00:11:10.260 elected. Look, I think it would work. And that is what I think Polyev should do. Okay, let's get to the
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00:12:02.340 As we saw, hours after President Donald Trump imposed a 25% tariff, Justin Trudeau announced
00:12:08.900 that Canada would react in kind. So Canada will place retaliatory tariffs on $155 billion of American
00:12:15.860 goods, including alcohol, clothing, appliances, and food products. Trudeau said that the first way
00:12:21.380 wave 30 billion will start on Tuesday, and the remaining will come down the next 21 days. And so predictably,
00:12:30.580 folks, Donald Trump isn't happy. Donald Trump isn't happy. So after seeing Justin Trudeau's response on
00:12:36.980 Sunday, Trump took to Truth Social, and he wrote this, we pay hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize
00:12:43.940 Canada. Why? There is no reason. We don't need anything they have. We have unlimited energy. We
00:12:49.780 should make our own cars. We have more lumber than they could ever use. Without this massive subsidy,
00:12:55.140 Canada ceases to exist as a viable country. Again, he's just quoting Justin Trudeau there, folks,
00:13:02.260 according to reports. He's just saying what Trudeau already said to him. This is harsh but true.
00:13:07.140 Therefore, Canada should become our cherished 51st state, much lower taxes, far better military
00:13:13.460 protection for the Canadian people, and no tariffs. So Trump is tripling down, provoking Canada the best
00:13:21.060 he can. He knows that the 51st state thing really gets under our skin. And so he is pushing it and
00:13:26.500 pushing it. And it is frustrating. It is, you know, I'm not happy to see this. But the reality is that Canada
00:13:34.260 is in this mess because of Justin Trudeau, because of the mess that he has made over the past 10 years.
00:13:40.820 Trump, again, speaking to reporters at the Joint Base Andrews, Air Base in Maryland,
00:13:47.300 he had this to say about Canada.
00:13:49.140 Are you planning to complete the tariffs against Canada?
00:13:53.620 Well, it could happen. If they do anything, we will. Canada has been very abusive of the United
00:13:58.900 States for many years. They don't allow our banks. And you know that Canada does not allow
00:14:04.180 banks to go in. If you think about it, that's pretty amazing. If we have a U.S. bank,
00:14:09.700 they don't allow them to go in. Canada has been very tough on oil, on energy. They don't allow our
00:14:15.380 farm products in, essentially. They don't allow a lot of things in. And we allow everything to
00:14:21.140 come in. It's been a one-way street. We subsidize Canada by the tune of about $200 billion a year.
00:14:29.140 And for what? What do we get out of it? We don't get anything out of it. I love the people of Canada.
00:14:33.860 I disagree with the leadership of Canada. And something's going to happen there.
00:14:40.260 But if they wanted to play the game, I don't mind. We can play the game all they want.
00:14:45.540 Sealy says, I disagree with the leadership of Canada. Again, Trump wants regime change in Canada.
00:14:51.860 And the Canadians want it too. We need an election. All of this is just pointing to an election. Trump says,
00:14:57.460 are willing to play the game. They are a much bigger economy than we are. Like, they're going
00:15:01.460 to win. And I don't understand why everyone in Canada believes that we should continue down this
00:15:06.660 path. Now, not everybody is saying that. You know, the political classes, the journalists are.
00:15:11.300 But I did find some business leaders who disagree. This is Toby Lutke, who is the founder and CEO of
00:15:17.380 Shopify. And this is what he wrote on X. He wrote, I am disappointed that the Trump administration
00:15:21.860 plays 25% tariffs. I'm disappointed that this is our government response. I love Canada,
00:15:27.060 and I want it to thrive. I built Canada's biggest tech company here because I know it's a special
00:15:30.900 place. Canada thrives when it works with America together. Win by helping America win. Trump believes
00:15:36.980 that Canada has not held its side of the bargain. He set the terms to prove that we still work
00:15:42.260 together. Get the border under control and crack down on fentanyl dents. These are things that every
00:15:47.620 Canadian wants the government to do too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an
00:15:52.340 unpopular source. These tariffs are going to be devastating to so many people's lives and small
00:15:57.380 businesses. Action has to be judged based on what it leads to, not how good it feels. Leadership is
00:16:03.220 about doing what's right, not what is popular. And hitting back will not lead to anything good.
00:16:09.140 America will shrug it off. Canada will decline. It's simply the wrong choice in a possible, in a
00:16:14.740 possibility of space where much better options would have been available. Exactly right. And sadly,
00:16:22.820 I don't know that people are heeding that call, but I think that it would be wise for Canada to
00:16:28.180 understand that America can withstand this. Yeah, they might pay some higher taxes. Yeah,
00:16:33.300 they might pay higher prices at the store, but it won't destroy them in the way that it will destroy
00:16:37.700 Canada. Another comment I wanted to point out was Kirk Lubinoff on X on Saturday. He wrote,
00:16:43.140 just for context, American tariffs on Canada are equal to about 10% of Canada's GDP. Canada's
00:16:49.300 retaliation on the US equals about 0.5% of America's GDP. So I'll just give you some context
00:16:56.260 about what this will do. Well, it seems that Canada's reaction is basically just to tell America
00:17:03.540 that our feelings are hurt and that this is just a really bad idea. That at least is the message
00:17:09.300 being conveyed by Chrystia Freeland, Liberal leader hopeful, who was on CNN over the weekend talking
00:17:16.020 to Fareed Zakaria, basically just whining and complaining and crying that this is hurting our
00:17:21.060 feelings. Americans have to understand how hurt and frankly, how furious Canadians are. Our sovereignty is
00:17:30.900 being challenged. And so yeah, regular Canadians across the country are coming up with ways to stand
00:17:37.780 for Canada, to fight for Canada, to defend Canada, but mostly to say to our American neighbors, guys,
00:17:43.940 just cut it out. Just stop it. This is a terrible idea. And yes, we are going to use all the tools in
00:17:50.260 our toolbox. You mentioned a little bit earlier how the United States depends on China, critical minerals
00:17:56.260 and metals that you need for semiconductors, that you need to build electric vehicles. Well, guess
00:18:02.340 who also produces those? Canada. You depend on us for a lot and we are happy to work together,
00:18:08.980 but it's got to be a two-way street. Stomping her feet, puffing her breath,
00:18:14.660 saying, this isn't fair, guys. This isn't fair. This is a terrible idea. That's not going to cut it,
00:18:19.780 okay? That's just going to make Americans mock us on the way down. We need a serious reaction. We need
00:18:25.700 serious leadership. Pierre Polyev is doubling down on his idea that Canada just needs an election. We
00:18:31.060 need to get rid of Trudeau. We need to get rid of this terrible liberal government. They shouldn't
00:18:34.340 be negotiating for us. Now, like I said, there's not a lot of daylight between Polyev and Trudeau's
00:18:40.980 plan when it comes to the trade war. They both agree with retaliatory dollar for dollar tariffs
00:18:46.580 against the United States, against imports. I think that's a very bad idea. But aside from that,
00:18:51.540 Pierre Polyev is calling on a more comprehensive plan with aspects of it that I agree. So first,
00:18:58.100 he says, retaliate dollar for dollar. Second, he says, put tariffs on American steel and aluminum
00:19:02.980 so we can bring home production of those things to our country. Three, he says, pass an immediate
00:19:07.540 emergency, bring it home tax cut. I'm with you on that one. Number four, he says, scrap the liberal
00:19:12.980 anti-energy laws. I'm with you on that. Number five, knock down inter-provincial trade barriers. Yes,
00:19:17.460 with you. Six, rebuild our military with you on that. And seven, we must lock arms with American
00:19:23.780 economic interests that favor Canada. Workers and businesses that depend on trade with Canada
00:19:29.300 should be marshaled to pressure the administration to back down. Yet there are allies in the United
00:19:33.700 States. There are allies that understand that this will hurt certain pockets and certain segments
00:19:38.340 of the United States. I don't know that that's going to help convince Trump. I think you need to go
00:19:42.660 right to the source, Pierre. I think you need to go and talk to Donald Trump directly. Now,
00:19:47.380 Pierre was speaking at a press conference in Vancouver on Sunday and he, again, criticized the
00:19:54.500 liberals because yes, this is Justin Trudeau's fault for the way he has negotiated with Donald Trump.
00:20:00.020 It's also 10 years of terrible, terrible policies by Justin Trudeau that has led to the situation where
00:20:05.300 we actually don't have any other options. We don't have the option to just go trade with other people
00:20:09.620 because Trudeau's economic environmental regime has basically made it so that we can't export things.
00:20:16.340 We can't reach other markets. So here is Polyev making that point. You mentioned the economic
00:20:22.740 jeopardy for American refinery workers in your remarks. Is Canada's negotiating position today
00:20:27.780 still weakened without the prospect of restrictions or export taxes on its biggest export by far energy and
00:20:32.580 crude oil? Well, I think the reason that Justin Trudeau has refused to answer that question
00:20:39.620 and the reason why numerous Quebec leaders have surprisingly to some might be surprised to learn
00:20:44.980 have come out against it is because it's not clear how Western oil would actually make it make it to Quebec
00:20:52.900 given that the oil we transport from Western Canada to Quebec goes through the United States,
00:20:59.380 goes down into the States through lines five and nine and back up to Quebec. Of course, Eastern Canada
00:21:05.140 has to import a lot of Eastern American oil because we don't have a transnational pipeline.
00:21:11.780 Furthermore, we don't export any of our natural gas to any country other than the United States because
00:21:18.500 the government here has blocked LNG export plants. So the question then becomes where else would we export our
00:21:25.220 oil and gas? So yes, that is absolutely true. And Canada needs to fix basically our entire economic
00:21:33.860 regime. So this doesn't happen. Again, we need to get our products to market, we need to figure out a
00:21:38.740 way to trade with other people to build pipelines to build infrastructure. So this doesn't happen in
00:21:43.940 the future. Now fixing those things won't help us today, they might help us in the future in a future
00:21:48.260 war. And the thing that we need to fix today is making a deal with Trump not having a trade war. I want
00:21:54.580 to point out a bit of fake news from that same press conference of Pierre Polyev. We have the CBC asking the
00:22:00.900 most CBC question possible. I don't know if this was a misunderstanding or what, but the reporter
00:22:05.700 basically just asks Polyev, this is a quote, will you step aside and not compete for the head of the
00:22:11.300 country? Like what? Why would Pierre do that? He's running to be the prime minister. He is winning
00:22:17.300 according to all the polls. Why on earth would he step aside to allow Justin Trudeau to continue
00:22:23.140 driving Canada off a cliff? Makes no sense. And hence why, you know, you can always rely on the CBC for
00:22:29.300 asking the stupidest question possible. Here's that clip. You have talked about,
00:22:33.700 or we just know sometimes we like to hear from local media. Do you believe the government's
00:22:38.660 promise of $155 billion in counter tariffs is enough? And what would you do differently to
00:22:43.940 get the president to change course? And to clarify your last question, are you saying that you would
00:22:48.180 step aside and not compete for the head of the country to allow us to get through this crisis? Or
00:22:53.700 I'm unclear about your answer to the last question. Well, I'm, I find it's a strange
00:22:58.900 question to your, CBC is asking me to step aside in the next election. It's a very strange request.
00:23:04.660 Um, no, we're not going to suspend democracy. Uh, the Canadian people run this country and they
00:23:10.980 will choose the next prime minister. Thank you very much. Next question. Thank you. Perfect answer
00:23:16.180 there by Pierre. Again, I don't know if the journalist just didn't quite understand,
00:23:20.180 or maybe she misspoke, but why would you ask the leader of the opposition to step aside and not
00:23:24.900 compete in the election? Makes absolutely no sense. I'm sure that's what the CBC would like though,
00:23:29.860 because, well, Pierre said he's going to defund the CBC. So I can't, can't blame them for trying
00:23:34.980 to, uh, to knock him out on their, on his, on their way out. Okay. Danielle Smith, premier of Alberta,
00:23:40.100 who I think has had the best response to this entire crisis, the entire time she penned an op-ed
00:23:45.460 in the national post, which ran on Sunday morning, she wrote how team Canada can overcome
00:23:50.900 the Trump tariffs. Now I think Danielle Smith has some source credibility here. She is the one that
00:23:56.500 has gone down to Mar-a-Lago. She's the one that's negotiated with Trump. Presumably the reason that
00:24:01.300 there's only a 10% tariff on oil and not a 25% is because of the advocacy and the work that Daniel,
00:24:07.140 Daniel Smith has done. I mean, it's not much, but Hey, 15%, um, is a big deal. Oh. And as a reminder,
00:24:13.300 uh, check out our live stream. We did a live stream. We went live, uh, to the audience on
00:24:17.860 Saturday evening, right after Justin Trudeau gave his remarks. I was joined by the counter signals,
00:24:22.740 Kian Bextie, and we had our live reactions. So if you missed that over the weekend, um,
00:24:26.500 go check it out. So you can see all of our live, fresh reaction back to Danielle Smith and the op-ed
00:24:31.780 that she wrote. She writes this as premier of Alberta. I am calling on my fellow premiers, the prime minister
00:24:37.140 and all of our national leaders to deescalate the rhetoric as much as possible and to look to
00:24:43.380 diplomacy and advocacy as a primary tools to resolve this conflict. Absolutely right. Danielle Smith is
00:24:50.180 absolutely correct in calling for everyone to just calm down. Look as much fun as it is, as much as it
00:24:55.460 feels good right now to wave the flag, to boo the national anthem during American sports, um, to go to your
00:25:01.540 grocery store and berate people who are buying American products. Um, none of that stuff is going
00:25:06.260 to save us. None of that is going to save us. It's not going to help. Um, it's not going to get us through
00:25:10.420 this. The only thing that will is trying to deescalate and trying to use diplomacy. Smith continues. She
00:25:16.900 writes, I am planning to return to Washington DC twice more this month to participate in the
00:25:21.300 Republican governor's convention and to visit with dozens of elected and administrative officials. I will
00:25:26.500 never stop telling Alberta's and Canada's story to our friends and allies south of the border. I
00:25:30.660 encourage all elected Canadian leaders to do the same. She goes on. If we were going to thrive as
00:25:35.940 a nation again, if we are going to control our own destiny, independent of the actions of other
00:25:41.620 countries, then we must stop limiting our prosperity and inflicting economic wounds. Canada can and must
00:25:47.140 come together in an unprecedented effort to unleash the true economic potential of our country, which
00:25:52.740 possesses more wealth and natural resources than any other nation on earth. I call in the federal
00:25:57.540 government, my fellow premiers to immediately commence a national joint effort to tap to
00:26:03.060 fast track and rebuild multiple oil and gas pipelines east, west and north to the coast of Canada, construct
00:26:09.460 multiple LNG terminals and each to each coast using steel, uh, from Ontario and Quebec and workers from
00:26:16.660 every part of the country. She says, let's unleash the development of critical minerals in every province
00:26:21.940 and territory by fast tracking government approvals. Let's free our nation's entrepreneurial spirit
00:26:28.580 by lowering absurdly high taxes, reducing red tape and tearing down interprovincial barriers once and for
00:26:35.300 all. Look, folks, Danielle Smith here is exactly right. And these are the kind of things that will help
00:26:41.460 in the long term. But unfortunately, as she wrote right up top, the thing that's going to save us today
00:26:47.700 is the is diplomacy and striking a deal with Donald Trump. That's what we need. That is what will save
00:26:54.020 us today. All right, and I want to bring on a guest today to help us make sense of all the crazy things
00:26:59.940 that are happening in the country right now. I'm really pleased to be joined by an individual first
00:27:04.100 time on the podcast, I think first time on a true north podcast. I'm joined today by Jasper Sunshine,
00:27:09.780 aka Mr. Sunshine Baby. So Jasper is a Canadian YouTube personality and political commentator. You have to
00:27:16.900 watch his YouTube shows. They are so entertaining. And he has a huge, huge following of people. So
00:27:22.660 Jasper is a Canadian. He served in the military for nearly nine years. And after his military service,
00:27:28.500 he embraced a nomadic lifestyle living in a van for about four years before transitioning to residing
00:27:34.180 in a trailer. His like I said, his YouTube channel is lots of fun. So you should go check it out, Mr.
00:27:38.660 Sunshine Baby. So Jasper, thank you so much for joining the podcast this morning. Yeah, thank you so much for
00:27:43.620 having me. Okay, so I mean, what's your what's your instant reaction to everything that's happened over
00:27:48.580 the past weekend? Wow, I mean, there is so much divisiveness in Canada, you're talking about
00:27:55.620 people that are just without this weekend, supporting Trudeau or against Trudeau. So
00:28:00.660 already the country is split in half. And now it feels like people are having to choose between
00:28:05.860 becoming a part of America or supporting Trump, or standing up against that. So now the right is even
00:28:12.500 more divided than ever. And there's just so many moving parts. And it's happening so fast. And I
00:28:18.340 think that I think that now we have to band together more than ever and to have some form of a Canada
00:28:28.580 first team Canada approach where it doesn't matter if you're left or if you're right, I think that we all
00:28:34.260 have to come together and figure out a way to rebuild Canada. We are extremely fractured. And
00:28:42.260 I'll be the first to admit, I love America. I've always been pro America. I've worked with Americans
00:28:47.300 in the military. I love traveling to America. I think everyone in Canada has a friend or family
00:28:53.300 member or at least know someone that is American or resides in America. And the things that I love about
00:28:58.980 America is their freedom, their, their superpower, their, their dominance around the world. And the
00:29:06.260 fact that businesses go to America to just exist the American dream. And I think that right now,
00:29:13.140 Canada is having to choose a path between, do we want that right now? And what does that even look
00:29:19.060 like? Or do we invest in ourselves, which is in the long, it's a long run, it's a long game,
00:29:25.220 right? It's like changing your body. You go to the gym, you eat well, you don't see results right
00:29:29.540 away, but you're putting in the hard work now for months or years down the road. And that's,
00:29:34.500 that's kind of what we're having to do right now. And I think that we have a real possibility in Canada
00:29:40.020 to be, have those beautiful things that America has, but here in Canada. So everyone who's pro America,
00:29:47.460 like myself, we can have that. It's just going to take a lot of time and a lot of effort.
00:29:52.340 Yeah, I agree with that. I think that when the first is when I look at what Pierre Polyev said,
00:29:57.620 you know, he's talking about how we can kind of open up Canada, so that we can become more
00:30:02.020 competitive, right? So like allow more pipelines, build more infrastructure around our energy and
00:30:07.060 our oil and getting it to other markets, freeing up interprovincial barriers, all that kind of stuff.
00:30:12.580 That's kind of like the long term stuff that you're talking about, like going to the gym,
00:30:15.940 you're not going to see overnight results with that kind of stuff, because we don't have the
00:30:18.980 capacity. We can't just wake up tomorrow and start trading our oil to China or Europe when we don't
00:30:23.380 have pipelines to get it to freshwater and we have laws banning tankers and other issues. But to me,
00:30:31.140 it seems like there's like overnight things that we could have done to get Trump to come to the table
00:30:37.460 and make it make a deal, like fixing the border, cracking down on the drug, you know, manufacturers
00:30:44.740 that operate in Canada, you know, really cracking down on criminal gangs, particularly like Chinese
00:30:52.900 criminal gangs that are allowing fentanyl distributing coming and going and distributing it.
00:30:57.780 Those are things that I didn't hear Trudeau really taking seriously. I know that you're a huge critic of
00:31:03.860 Trudeau, and I don't think there's a lot of love lost there, especially when I think of your audience.
00:31:09.540 You know, you have a massive audience of, I think, mostly like young males. I don't know,
00:31:12.980 maybe you can tell us a bit about your audience. But it seems to me that a lot of people that follow
00:31:16.980 you, Jasper, would prefer Canada just say, become the 51st state or embrace what Trump is offering.
00:31:24.980 So what do you think? Do you think that there is a large constituents of Canadians that would be happier
00:31:30.420 as America? Do you take that seriously? The idea that Canada should join the United States?
00:31:35.140 Or do you think that we really need to like focus on rebuilding our own country?
00:31:40.660 I, I've been guilty in the past few days over the weekend, especially right, of just kind of flirting
00:31:47.940 with the idea of becoming the 51st state, right? And that's just a bandaid solution. Becoming the 51st
00:31:55.780 state, we can all admit that there's, there's a lot of crazies in America. There's a lot of crazy,
00:32:02.580 there's a lot of people, there's a lot of bad actors in America. If we become the 51st state,
00:32:07.220 we're automatically giving them a free pass to come north without any borders, without any
00:32:12.340 restrictions. That's something that I don't think a lot of people are really prepared for. I think that
00:32:17.780 that the people like myself that are, that love America, we can have those things. It's going to
00:32:24.980 take time. It's going to take time, but it's an investment for, for my kids, right? For your kids,
00:32:30.340 for our grandkids to be able to experience that economic boom, things made in Canada by Canadians,
00:32:37.460 create Canadian jobs. And you're right. It's not going to happen overnight, but nothing in politics
00:32:43.540 does. And in fact, right before we jumped on this call this morning, I had a thought and Pierre
00:32:49.300 Pauliev is extremely about transparency. He wants less government, more transparency. And I, this is
00:32:57.540 probably going to stir the pot, but I've had a bit of a uncle Ben talk from someone, you know,
00:33:02.340 with great power comes great responsibility. I've got a platform and I'm just going to throw this out
00:33:06.580 there. Pierre Pauliev is running for leadership. He wants to be the prime minister. What's stopping him
00:33:12.100 right now? What's stopping any political leader in Canada right now from trying to get pre-sales on oil
00:33:20.340 ready to go with other countries? You have countries like Japan that are ready to pay
00:33:24.980 double the current price right now to lock in a five, 10, 15, 20 year deal for our oil. We have the
00:33:31.300 best oil, the cleanest oil in the entire world. And we should be using that. And we plan on using that
00:33:39.140 with a different government. And so I think that if Pierre Pauliev or the conservatives maybe said,
00:33:44.980 you know what, open bidding process starting, I don't know what the going, you know, uh, prices for
00:33:50.260 barrel, let's say it's $90 per barrel, right? $90 per barrel, whoever, whatever country out there
00:33:56.180 wants to start a lock in a five year deal. When I'm prime minister, let's start at 90 bucks. And then
00:34:01.460 you're going to start to see a bunch of countries around the world, take it a little bit more seriously.
00:34:05.620 That's going to undercut Justin Trudeau. It's going to undercut Jagmeet Singh. It's going to
00:34:09.540 undercut any liberal candidate that's running for leadership right now, because no one's actually
00:34:14.340 trying to make those deals. Everyone's got these, these slogans or these reverse promises, right?
00:34:19.700 We're pro carbon tax. Now, all of a sudden, three months later, we're not pro carbon tax,
00:34:23.860 Mark Carney and Christian Freeland. Why doesn't Pierre take the X and just start pre-selling,
00:34:28.900 pre-selling barrels of oil? Why not lock in these multi-year deals, multi-billion dollar deals,
00:34:34.420 right? I know it's, he's not prime ministering. He doesn't have that authority right now,
00:34:37.940 but what's stopping him from saying when I'm prime minister, Japan wants a $200 billion deal
00:34:42.900 for five, 10 years worth of oil. What's stopping that from actually happening?
00:34:48.020 Well, yeah. And I mean, I think that that's an interesting idea. I think that Canada still faces
00:34:52.020 the problem of just a lack of pipelines, right? Like the pipelines over the past 10 years have been
00:34:56.180 blocked by Trudeau. So it's, we have issues even just getting the oil from Alberta out to the coast,
00:35:02.100 like the Trans-Pacific pipeline. You know, the government ended up having to buy it
00:35:07.540 and basically shutting it down. And we don't have the capacity to get the oil to the East Coast. So
00:35:12.420 I feel like we have to first build up the infrastructure and that doesn't happen overnight.
00:35:17.620 Like I think that, I mean, if I was going to be advising Pierre Polyev to do something,
00:35:23.780 I would tell him to go down and negotiate with Trump, like go to the White House and try to strike a
00:35:28.740 deal, like beg him to stop with the tariffs and say, look, when I'm prime minister, like help me
00:35:36.260 demand an election in Canada, say I'll pause these tariffs until an election happens. And then
00:35:42.340 once I'm prime minister, you know, things will be different. I'll secure the border. I'll crack down
00:35:47.140 on the fentanyl dens and I will do all the things that you want me to do to have a more secure America.
00:35:52.900 Like that's what I would be telling Pierre to do. Although I think secondary, sure, let's also
00:35:57.940 diversify our markets. Why do you think Pierre hasn't gone down to the States yet? Why do you
00:36:04.020 think he didn't go to Mar-a-Lago with Danielle Smith? Why do you think he didn't go down for
00:36:07.460 inauguration? I have no idea why he didn't go down and I've criticized him over the weekend, this past
00:36:14.980 weekend about that by, you know, going on my channel and saying, I think that Pierre should go
00:36:20.100 even to the border with Danielle Smith and do, you know, a press conference with the media right
00:36:24.820 there and say, this is how much Danielle Smith conservatives are investing into securing our
00:36:30.260 border right now. But I don't know if we should be crawling back to America to try and we're selling
00:36:38.020 them subsidized oil and then we're buying it back. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't have deals with
00:36:43.140 America. Absolutely. We should, but we should be, I mean, Trudeau and liberals and the government
00:36:48.420 have really screwed us with these bad deals. And we've only really been able to sell to America.
00:36:55.700 And I understand that it takes a lot of money and a decent amount of time to get those pipelines,
00:37:01.380 you know, under wraps, but the idea of pre-selling and securing these multi-billion dollar deals,
00:37:07.380 you take that money and you invest it immediately into that infrastructure. You know, there's a cashflow
00:37:12.420 injection coming, we create jobs and we get it going right away. That's where I think Canada
00:37:17.700 should be going.
00:37:19.540 Yeah. And I think it's interesting. And I think that that's the direction that we're going to
00:37:23.060 have to go because if we can't get a good deal trading to our American neighbors, we're going to
00:37:26.820 have to find other markets. I'm curious, what did you think of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's Saturday
00:37:31.620 evening address? He came out. I mean, first of all, it irks me that he resigned in January and yet he's
00:37:37.940 still out there leading the way. Like usually when you resign, you go away, you actually leave the
00:37:42.020 job. That's right.
00:37:42.980 Somehow he's resigned and he's still there, you know, nagging us. I saw even a bunch of
00:37:48.500 conservatives online kind of applauding him for sounding sort of statesman and not being as
00:37:55.780 condescending as he normally is to Americans. I have a clip I want to play. So let's play this first clip
00:38:01.060 of Trudeau just basically making his announcement last night.
00:38:04.340 Unfortunately, the actions taken today by the White House split us apart instead of bringing us
00:38:13.700 together. Tonight, I am announcing Canada will be responding to the US trade action with 25%
00:38:24.340 tariffs against $155 billion worth of American goods.
00:38:30.020 This will include immediate tariffs on $30 billion worth of goods as of Tuesday, followed by further
00:38:40.100 tariffs on $125 billion worth of American products in 21 days time to allow Canadian companies and supply
00:38:49.060 chains to seek to find alternatives.
00:38:51.700 So that's, that's, that's what Trudeau had to say when he basically just said, we're going to go dollar
00:38:58.020 for dollar and we're going to reply in kind with the 25% tariffs. So what did you think?
00:39:03.780 Um, I, I might have a bit of an unpopular opinion for the first part of his speech where he talked about
00:39:10.820 how Canadians have, uh, you know, shed blood, sweat, and tears hand in hand with Americans and we fought in
00:39:17.940 Cambridge and all those things. And I think that that first little part, the first little part of
00:39:22.100 his speech was quite good. It was probably one of his better, if not one of his best speeches ever.
00:39:28.820 And then he fumbled and said a bunch of stuff and it just turned sour really fast.
00:39:34.900 I, I don't agree with the retaliatory response. I know some conservatives do. I know the, um,
00:39:42.660 the conservative leader, Pierre Polyev agrees with a dollar for dollar retaliatory response.
00:39:47.700 I think that in this situation right now, our government and those that are running for
00:39:53.460 prime minister, um, should be coming together to just solve those issues that Trump is demanding.
00:40:00.100 Right. And when it comes to the fentanyl, right, we got like what 19 kilograms of fentanyl going from
00:40:06.260 America or from Canada into, uh, our Southern borders, whereas Mexico has 9,000. Right. So it's like,
00:40:12.180 we got tiny microscopic peanuts compared to the other issues. So there's the argument as well
00:40:18.180 that Trump is trying to just display this, this force, this dominance, like almost like a,
00:40:23.140 like a pissing contest on Canada saying it's not really both fentanyl, but we're going to make it
00:40:26.980 about fentanyl. I think that we just secure the borders. We do what is demanded because not,
00:40:31.860 not necessarily because it, it's what he wants, but it also benefits us. And it shows that we can
00:40:36.660 actually take action and solve issues here in Canada for Canadians. And that also kind of,
00:40:43.140 you know, pleases the president of the United States. Yeah. I mean, I think that, that, that,
00:40:48.420 that beginning bit that you said you liked, I didn't like that because I, I felt like he was
00:40:53.300 talking, he said, I'm going to talk to Americans, but he wasn't really talking to Americans. I think
00:40:57.060 he was talking to Canadians. I felt like he was trying to like relaunch his political career or like
00:41:01.620 preserve his legacy. And Canadians get like a little sappy when we hear about how we've been
00:41:05.940 such great friends to America, but knowing the audience, like I'll, I'll just give an example.
00:41:10.900 This is a tweet that JD Vance put out, um, on Sunday morning. Um, and remember this is, this is
00:41:16.660 the, this is the, this is the, the vice president. This is mega. This is, this is how Americans hear
00:41:21.940 this, right? So JD Vance writes, spare me the sob story about how Canada is our best friend. I love
00:41:27.700 Canada and have many Canadian friends, but is the government meeting their NATO target for military
00:41:33.300 spending? Are they stopping the flow of drugs into our country? I'm sick of being taken advantage of,
00:41:38.980 right? So to them, it's like, okay, we don't care about all the things that you're telling us about.
00:41:44.260 We care about these two things, up your military, stop, like secure the border, stop drugs. Right.
00:41:50.100 And that's, that's kind of what Trump has been saying for, for months now. Um, I think that Trudeau is
00:41:55.700 kind of poking the bear. I think that Trudeau benefits politically from Trump, like from this
00:42:01.540 war, from this trade war. And he, he actually wants it on some like dark level. Um, and so rather than
00:42:08.420 coming out there and saying, we take these, these threats really seriously, and I'm doing everything
00:42:12.900 I can to like appease the Americans and convince them that we're going to work together to solve
00:42:18.180 these problems. Um, it comes out with kind of like a sappy political speech that I think maybe,
00:42:22.660 maybe he was successful in, in, in that so many people, even conservatives say he did a good job.
00:42:26.820 But again, I don't think that it's hitting its desired target, which is convincing the Americans
00:42:32.340 that we're up for the task. Clearly. Um, Trump, Trump started making the comments. Remember it
00:42:37.940 was right after he got elected. He said, he's going to do a 25% tariff. Trudeau went down there,
00:42:42.180 went to Mar-a-Lago. And it was after that meeting, it seemed like whatever Trudeau did,
00:42:45.780 whatever he said at that dinner at Mar-a-Lago really angered Trump. And that was when the 51st
00:42:50.420 state, the governor Trudeau stuff, uh, started coming out and it was like, I don't know. Yeah.
00:42:55.380 Like he poked the bear. He made Trump angry. He said the wrong things. That's what he did. I mean,
00:43:00.420 it hasn't been debunked by Trudeau, but it's been, it's been confirmed by Trump where he said that,
00:43:06.020 uh, Governor Trudeau told them that if, if America doesn't subsidize Canada to tune a 200,
00:43:13.780 250 billion dollars a year, that we're going to go bankrupt. And we're going to go into a recession.
00:43:18.660 It would kill Canada. Why would the leader of a country ever say that? Why would you show your
00:43:22.100 cards like that? You should have said the opposite. He should have said, Hey president,
00:43:25.860 just so you know, you know, we're giving you a good deal on oil and gas, but we've got other
00:43:30.260 countries lined up and they're willing to pay twice as much for long contracts, right? Like
00:43:35.300 there should have been a better negotiation. Why would you go out? And then he comes back and he
00:43:39.860 resigns, right? Like, did he plan on resigning beforehand? It didn't seem like it. So he, he just got
00:43:46.580 completely demolished by Trump and realized he can't fix this. So he's just going to leave Canada
00:43:52.660 in this catastrophic demolished state, resign, and then keep the government prerogated. It's an
00:43:57.940 absolute disaster. He's a, he's a huge disgrace. Yeah, exactly. Okay. I want to play another clip
00:44:03.300 from Trudeau. So this is Trudeau. He was asked directly by a journalist. Why don't you bring back
00:44:08.260 parliament? Right? Like we're, we're dealing with like one of the biggest crises in the history of our
00:44:12.580 country and our politicians are taking a break so that the liberal party can like re regroup and
00:44:19.300 try to run a better candidate next. It was so ridiculous. It's kind of, it kind of shows you
00:44:23.460 what a joke Canada's political system is and the drastic need for reform. Um, but anyway,
00:44:27.700 here is Trudeau being asked why he doesn't recall parliament. Prime Minister, will you recall parliament
00:44:33.380 to pass a bill to help Canadian workers and end prorogation?
00:44:36.260 As you can see from our, uh, strong response package, uh, as, uh, we spoke about with premiers
00:44:47.700 this afternoon, uh, and have for many weeks, uh, we have the tools to be able to support Canadians,
00:44:53.940 uh, through, uh, this challenging time as it stands. We have the tools. Did you, I think
00:45:00.340 that drives you crazy is his deputies there behind him, Melanie Jolie, um, kind of smirking,
00:45:04.980 right? Like, no, no, we're not going to bring back parliament. Um, yeah, we can just suspend
00:45:10.180 democracy and, uh, regroup. We, we, we have the tools that we need, uh, for Canadians.
00:45:15.700 What does that even mean? What tools, what is he referring to? Like, no, nobody knows. I don't
00:45:20.740 think there's anyone who can actually answer any politician who can actually truthfully answer
00:45:26.180 what those tools are. What prorogation is a freeze on everything. So what tools are you using? What
00:45:31.380 discussions are you having at the round table in the sandbox? There's nothing he's making these
00:45:35.860 decisions when he's already clocked out. He's given his two weeks or two month notice. Like
00:45:40.180 this doesn't make any sense. Yeah. I mean, it's obvious that he just doesn't want to. And so he's
00:45:44.500 happy to dance around the question. Um, because he's a clown. Okay. One more clip. I, you know,
00:45:48.740 I, I should, I should warn, I usually give a trigger trigger warning to my audience before I play a
00:45:52.740 Justin Trudeau clip because they just hate him so much. And I hear in the comment section,
00:45:56.980 like don't play his clip or I'm going to turn the video off. Um, so yeah, trigger warning. Okay.
00:46:01.940 This is the last prime minister Justin Trudeau clip. Um, this is where he basically lets the cat
00:46:06.580 out of the bag that Trump won't take his phone call anymore. So here he says he's been trying to
00:46:11.140 speak to Donald Trump since the inauguration and he hopes to speak to him sometime soon. Let's play the
00:46:15.460 clip. It's been since, uh, the inauguration that I've been reaching out to speak with, uh, Donald Trump.
00:46:21.620 I hope to speak with him sometime soon. So I, I, I take away from that, that Trump does not want
00:46:28.500 anything to do with Justin Trudeau, not going to take his call, not going to negotiate with him,
00:46:32.180 which leaves us basically without a leader. Um, if I was Justin Trudeau, I would take that as a hint.
00:46:37.300 Like I need to actually step down now, let Canada have an election to choose the next leader rather
00:46:42.340 than doing this whole prorogation song and dance. What do you make of that Jasper?
00:46:46.420 I think that that should be the entry point for Pierre Polyev to get Danielle Smith and Jordan
00:46:56.180 Peterson and Elon Musk and whatever contacts they can scrounge up and, and go and Kevin O'Leary
00:47:02.500 and go down to Mar-a-Lago and just talk. You don't even have to post that you're going there. Just go
00:47:08.020 do it and talk about it afterwards, but take that action right now and try to fix this. Cause it seems
00:47:13.940 like it was a productive conversation when Danielle Smith had gone down with Kevin O'Leary or we don't
00:47:19.700 know exactly the ins and outs of what, what took place, but it wasn't as catastrophic as when Trudeau
00:47:24.740 went. No, I mean, I, from what I read, so, um, Don Bell, who's a writer for the Calgary Sun, Calgary
00:47:31.140 Herald, he had like a play by play of what happened. And he basically said, Danielle showed up and you know,
00:47:36.340 Mar-a-Lago is a private club. There's hundreds of people that are always hanging around people that are
00:47:41.140 trying to get close to Trump or people that are part of Trump's orbit. And Danielle was invited
00:47:45.300 by Kevin O'Leary kind of as a guest of Kevin. And I don't know how close Kevin O'Leary is with,
00:47:50.420 with Donald Trump. I never got the sense that they were like close friends, but they obviously
00:47:53.940 have some kind of a connection. And according to Bell, um, when Donald Trump entered the room,
00:47:59.060 he beelined for Danielle Smith and went like straight to her. And they had a five or 10 minute
00:48:03.540 conversation there. And then Trump got pulled away to talk to the other people who want to talk to him.
00:48:08.180 And then, uh, on Sunday morning, they went to go golfing and it was again that they,
00:48:12.100 he went right to her and had a conversation. So he was clearly interested in talking to
00:48:16.100 Danielle Smith. I think he would be equally interested in talking to Pierre Polyev.
00:48:20.740 Do you think there's a risk? Because to me, um, when I, when I see the reaction from Canadians,
00:48:26.260 I wouldn't say it's overwhelmingly anti-American. I think that there's still kind of a mix in the
00:48:30.900 conservative camp, as you said off the top, that some people still want to try to make a deal with
00:48:34.580 Trump and others are like, we hate Trump or done with him. Like screw America. Let's try to do it
00:48:40.420 on our own. Um, and, and I think Pierre is kind of stuck. Like, I don't know, should he go and negotiate
00:48:46.180 with Trump or should he like play the big, like team Canada, like Trump bad, uh, let's create our own
00:48:52.580 deals. And I think that him going to visit Trump could create a risk for him that it could backfire,
00:48:58.740 or it could be seen as him siding with Trump over Canada. Uh, what do you think?
00:49:05.300 Um, I, I, I agree that he's stuck between a rock and a hard place right now. Uh, he's got critics
00:49:10.580 on both ends, people that support him that are analyzing every single move that he does,
00:49:14.740 because we are probed right now. And there's very limited access to what our politicians are saying.
00:49:20.980 The only press conferences that are taking place is whatever. And whenever Justin Trudeau decides,
00:49:26.020 and then the occasional media release of, you know, Pierre going on CTV Atlantic or something
00:49:31.220 like that. Right. So there are pros and cons. I think I can admit that about Pierre going down to
00:49:36.980 Mar-a-Lago should he start, uh, a public thread on X or truth social with president Trump and try to,
00:49:45.220 you know, get some communication there. Maybe, I mean, that could show some strength. Don't even do it
00:49:49.620 on X, do it on truth social, see what happens. Cause that's his platform. You might respect that.
00:49:54.500 He respects strength. And that's why I believe Canada is being heavily penalized. It has nothing
00:50:00.260 to do with you or me or any of the viewers. It has to do with Trudeau. The 25% is because of Trudeau,
00:50:07.220 which is why Xi Jinping only got 10%. That doesn't even make any sense. That's backwards.
00:50:14.260 Are you kidding? We're neighbors. We provide more to you than China does. And we buy more from you.
00:50:19.220 Like that doesn't make any sense. So showing a, a sign of strength, but not showing all of his cards.
00:50:26.580 What does that look like for the conservative leader, the inevitable next prime minister of
00:50:30.660 Canada? I mean, that, that should be a discussion that conservatives are having on X and brainstorming,
00:50:36.500 right? That's what X is for. It's a town hall for everyone to come together. I might not have the
00:50:40.740 answer. You might not have the answer. Pierre might not have the answer, but somebody out there,
00:50:44.820 accumulation of different thoughts and people coming together could have that answer. And what
00:50:49.460 does that look like? We don't really know until we start openly talking about it.
00:50:53.300 Yeah, I completely agree. I put, I put it out there that I think, uh, Pierre should go down,
00:50:57.380 like he should get on a plane now and go to the white house and try to make a side deal. Like,
00:51:02.420 I mean, I, I like, I, I get that there's risks to that because some Canadians will be like,
00:51:06.340 Oh, that's, uh, you know, they, they, they called Daniel Smith, a traitor, uh, for going down to
00:51:10.100 Mar-a-Lago. Well, I will note that, uh, there's only going to be a 10% tariff on oil, probably
00:51:15.380 because of Daniel Smith's advocacy. Like she managed to bring that down 15%. Um, so, you know,
00:51:21.060 thank you to Danielle for, for the oil workers and the people who are connected to that economy.
00:51:26.580 Um, all right, Jasper, I did want to ask you about this too. There were a bunch of clips
00:51:30.340 circulating over the weekend, Saturday night, Canadian fans booing the American national anthem.
00:51:35.780 It happened at the Ottawa sends game. Uh, they're playing Minnesota wild. It also happened. I saw,
00:51:40.580 uh, in Calgary, which kind of surprised me and before the Raptors game in Toronto. So, uh, first
00:51:45.300 we'll just play this clip. This was from Saturday night senators game in Ottawa.
00:51:49.460 That hurts. That stings. You know, my favorite clips are the ones of like everybody singing the
00:52:07.300 national anthem. I think that there was a clip from Toronto once where the, the speaker broke
00:52:11.860 and the entire audience saying the American national anthem to kind of help the singer out
00:52:16.420 because she couldn't be heard. And it was so heartwarming. It's like, you know, even Canadians
00:52:20.420 in Toronto might not like America at all. We're still singing the national anthem at that time.
00:52:24.980 Now times have changed seeing them boo them. I hate, I hate when they boo the Canadian national anthem.
00:52:29.540 Um, so it didn't make me very happy to see Canadians booing the American national anthem,
00:52:33.700 even though I get it. I get it. There's a lot of anger and frustration out there. What do you,
00:52:37.220 what do you think? Uh, I feel like we're entering a, uh, a time of division that's similar to
00:52:45.700 COVID right. You're not wearing a mask, go wear a mask or just like really ostracizing certain people.
00:52:53.780 And your best friend could have had a different view during that, that blip period. And all of a
00:52:58.980 sudden now you're no longer have any sort of relationship with friends and family. We all
00:53:03.140 experienced it. We all know horror stories about that. It went on for way too long. It should never
00:53:07.780 happen to begin with. I feel like that is happening again right now. And it might be tricking some PTSD
00:53:13.540 within Canadians. Cause you, now you have Canadians in the grocery stores that are ratting out other
00:53:18.500 people saying, don't buy that product. That's not made in Canada. That's like, ah, guys, come on.
00:53:24.020 This isn't about you and me. Like we, we, we should not be fighting Americans and Canadian citizens
00:53:31.220 shouldn't be arguing. I think that that's personally distasteful for the fans to be booing the American
00:53:36.420 anthem. I can't say that I blame them in the heat of the moment. You know, alcohol's involved,
00:53:41.380 you're at a sports game or it's competitive anyways, cause it is sports. I just don't think
00:53:46.500 that that in the long run is going to be good because that's, that's just a small little dopamine
00:53:52.500 hit. You feel good. Cause you're taking a, you know, a cheap shot at your neighbors, at your
00:53:57.060 friends, at your family, right? Wait till that hits us. What's that going to look like when Americans
00:54:01.780 start dunking on Canadians? What's really, what's that going to look like, right? It's going to be
00:54:06.660 horrible. How, how is it going to feel when a Canadian team is in America and Americans start
00:54:12.020 throwing stuff on the ice or throwing stuff on the court? What's that? That's going to hurt.
00:54:15.940 And we're going to be like, okay, tit for tat, right? No, we're not just fighting terrorists.
00:54:19.620 We're fighting against anthems. That's not what this is about. This isn't about Canadian people
00:54:24.340 versus American people. This is politicians trying to negotiate a deal. And I think that right now,
00:54:30.180 just like the blip, even though it's very divided, I think that we need to band together. What does
00:54:36.260 that look like? Well, that looks like not picking fights with the opposition, right? The, the Americans
00:54:43.220 versus Canadians or vice versa and booing anthems. I think that's a step in the wrong direction.
00:54:48.020 It's happened multiple times now, multiple times. Um, I've even seen some photos of the liquor store.
00:54:54.660 I think it's LCBO. They've now made it illegal to sell American spirits and minds and stuff like
00:55:01.300 that. And they've taken them off the shelves and there's big signs that they've got that says
00:55:05.860 made in Canada, purchase this. So already the division is happening. And some people
00:55:11.380 might be on, on one radical side and say, well, we should only purchase American stuff because screw
00:55:16.660 you, we should only purchase Canadian stuff because screw you Canadians. And other people are taking it
00:55:20.820 beyond just purchasing power and they're obviously booing and you're going to start heckling. And
00:55:25.860 that's how it starts. It starts off with just words and voices and then eventually it turns into
00:55:30.900 actions. And, uh, it's a slippery slope from there. It's a very, very slippery slope.
00:55:35.940 Well, and the other thing is we have a Trudeau calling on Canadians to stop vacationing,
00:55:40.100 to stop traveling to the United States. More than 20 million Canadians go to the United States
00:55:45.540 every year. Like it's the number one vacation destination for Canadians. So yeah,
00:55:50.100 you kind of worry about like, will this catch up on us? Uh, you know, will Canadians be greeted
00:55:54.500 with open arms the way that we're used to when you go to, you know, Florida or Palm Springs or
00:55:59.700 Arizona, wherever you go for the winter, there's so many Canadians at snowbirds and people that go
00:56:04.500 down there. Whoops. Is that me? All right. Let me just turn this on.
00:56:08.020 An American calling.
00:56:11.300 Um, actually my, my husband who's traveling for business in the United States, but not American.
00:56:16.340 Um, anyway, um, yeah, like I, I worry that Canadians, uh, won't be met with the same kind
00:56:22.820 of open arms, um, that we're used to down in the States. Uh, do you, do you worry about that at all?
00:56:28.660 Absolutely. Yeah. I, Canadians, whenever we would be in America, I used to live in my van. I used to
00:56:35.700 have Canadian license plates. Uh, well, I still do, but I was just on a previous vehicle. And, uh, we,
00:56:42.020 I always was met with open arms. I was always, especially cause I had my veteran license plates
00:56:46.420 on people would say, Oh, you're from Canada. That's awesome. And it was always a wonderful
00:56:50.820 interaction. And now we're just starting. We're 48, 72 hours into this. And you're already seeing
00:56:58.660 stadiums, boo people, and things are being taken off the shelves. What's this going to look like
00:57:03.620 in a week from now, in a month from now, tensions are only going to build. I think we all gotta,
00:57:08.340 you know, take a little bit of a hippie approach and do some little meditation, internal, uh,
00:57:15.220 thinking and just collect our thoughts and do breathing and just chill out. We're all on the
00:57:20.820 same side, Canadians and Americans. All right. We all fought on the same wars. According to Justin
00:57:25.620 Trudeau, we all, we've all been good neighbors, right? We all just need to, to simmer down a little
00:57:31.060 bit. I couldn't agree more. I think that's great advice. Hopefully we all take it. Well, Jasper,
00:57:34.900 thank you so much. I love your channel. Thank you for joining mine and hopefully we'll continue
00:57:39.300 the conversation and talk to you, talk to you again soon. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me.
00:57:43.780 All right. Thank you so much. Uh, that's Mr. Sunshine baby. Go check out his YouTube channel.
00:57:48.820 That's all for today, folks. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'm Candace Malcolm. This is
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