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- August 12, 2025
A victory for freedom!
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Hi, I'm Candice Malcolm, and this is The Candice Malcolm Show. Thank you so much for joining us,
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folks. We have a great episode for you today, and today's episode is brought to you by Rocklink,
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but more on them a little later. So we're going to talk about the Nova Scotia forest ban. We're
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going to talk about the insane, preemptive, soft authoritarianism and government overreach. That
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is the theme of today's show. But first, I want to report about a little victory here at Juno News.
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So it's not a victory for us as a company. We do have plenty of those. But this is a victory,
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a small triumph for all Canadians, and a testament to the value of independent media and the cause of
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freedom in Canada, not just Juno News, but other independent outlets like the rebel media. Okay,
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so two weeks ago, we reported on a CBC smear campaign against a Christian singer and prayer
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leader named Sean Foyt. The CBC teamed up with a liberal MP to smear him, to demonize him,
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and to pretend that somehow he was a threat to our country. Now, as I mentioned on the show,
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the CBC wrote dozens of articles. I'm not exaggerating, folks. They wrote dozens of articles
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smearing him, labeling him MAGA. You can check. MAGA appears in almost every headline that the CBC
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wrote about Sean Foyt. They're trying to scare you. They're trying to scare people into thinking
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that he's some kind of a political activist, that he's here promoting Donald Trump, or that he's
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trying to push a MAGA agenda onto Canada. But that is not true. Sean Foyt is a Christian
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singer and prayer leader. He tours Canada every single summer, and he's simply trying to inspire
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Canadians and connect Canadians with God. Now, that shouldn't be controversial in a Christian
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country like Canada. Canada is still a majority Christian country, and our country was founded
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on Christian morals and Christian ideals. But to the CBC, that is something to be scared of.
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And so they successfully disrupted many of Sean Foyt's appearances and services in Eastern
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Canada and Central Canada. Folks, that is the power of propaganda that the CBC has to capture
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audiences in that part of the country. But things are a little bit different out West. And Sean
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Foyt has been given the green light for a concert service in Edmonton, thanks to the UCB government
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and Premier Danielle Smith. I'm going to read a little bit from this Juno News article written
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by Cosmo Georgia, breaking Alberta government defies anti-Christian censors and permits Sean
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Foyt concert. The government has greenlit a major worship event featuring American Christian rock
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musician Sean Foyt on the legislative assembly on Alberta grounds in Edmonton. And so, like we said,
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we mentioned this a lot. And we were worried that Sean Foyt was going to Alberta and that
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he was going to, that the government was going to cave to the same forces and the same hysteria led
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again by CBC and liberal activism. But good for the UCP, good for Albertans for standing up for
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freedom of religion and freedom of speech in Canada. You should not censor someone just because you don't
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like them. Sean Foyt is allowed to do this kind of thing. Canada is a free country after all,
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and Canadians still have the right to their access of prayer services and religious worship. So again,
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that is a small victory for all Canadians. Okay, let's talk about these insane forest bans that
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are happening in our country, folks. This is scary authoritarian stuff. So you probably saw the news
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last week that Nova Scotia has banned hiking in private woods. You are not allowed to go into the
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woods in Nova Scotia right now upon fear of a $25,000 fine. So I'm going to read a little bit from
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the Juneau News report on this. Nova Scotians have been ordered to stay out of the woods in the
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forest. Folks, 75% of the province is made up of forest, but you cannot go into the forest or you
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face a $25,000 fine. Simply stepping into the woods, even on private land, is now banned by the
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provincial government with similar penalties to breaching a fire ban. The announcement came from
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Nova Scotia Premier Tim Houston concerned activities deemed not necessary, including hiking, camping,
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fishing, off-road vehicles during this dry spell with conditions that could spark a potential
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wildfire. So this is the announcement made by Premier Tim Houston of Nova Scotia. Remember,
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this guy's a conservative. And during the recent federal election, he was openly campaigning for
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himself instead of supporting Pierre Polyev, who was a conservative leader running in the election.
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This guy has serious leadership ambitions, even meaning undermining the leader of his own party,
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at least in name. He's supposed to be a conservative. He's supposed to be on team
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conservative. He didn't do that during the campaign. And now he's out there telling everybody
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to get inside and that it's not necessary for you to go hiking or camping or fishing in a Canadian
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summer. Let's play that clip.
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We're telling Nova Scotians, stay out of the woods. We are restricting travel and activities that really
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aren't necessary for most of us. Hiking, camping, fishing, and the use of vehicles in the woods are not
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permitted. Trail systems through woods are off limits. Camping is allowed, but only in official campgrounds.
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The fine for violating any of these bans is the same as the fine for the ban on burning $25,000.
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Folks, that is insane. We are Canadians. It is our birthright. It is our God-given birthright
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that we have certain inalienable freedoms. We are allowed to move. We have freedom of movement
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in Canada. It's guaranteed in our charter. And besides the charter, it is just a basic right
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that you could go outside. You can go into the forest. You can go into your yard. You can enjoy
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nature. We only have a few short months to enjoy the sunshine and the warmth in Canada. And for a
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premier to preemptively say that you can't go outside, this ban, by the way, folks, goes into
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mid-October. Mid-October. We're talking about weeks upon weeks, months upon months of not being able to go
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outside just in case there may be a fire. I mean, to my ears, this is pure authoritarianism. It is
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unbelievable for a conservative premier to tell you that it's not necessary for you to go outside.
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Nova Scotia's Department of Natural Resources wrote this on X.
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If you see something that looks like a violation of the burn ban or wood restrictions,
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please report it to us by calling this number. Please remember that some people
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will have travel permits to go into the woods primarily for work. Look, I totally understand
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a burn ban. I understand that there are concerns of forest fires and that you shouldn't be able
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to set fires and have bonfires and all those kinds of things. That makes perfect sense, okay?
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Even an ATV ban, because, you know, there could be a spark, there could be a motor here,
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and I understand it's quite dry in Nova Scotia right now, but the idea that you can't even go
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for a walk in nature in Canada is patently absurd and people should be up in arms about it.
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And yet, instead, what we hear, even from the conservative side, is a lot of people making
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excuses and saying, actually, it is correct for the government to ban all people from going outside.
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And so here I'm talking about former conservative strategist turned CBC pundit,
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Fred Delore. I believe he used to be head of the conservative party. This is what he wrote on X.
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As a woodlot owner in Nova Scotia, I can tell you firsthand the forest floor is like tinder right
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now. You can feel the heat rising from it just waiting for a spark. Our province's small
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communities are tightly woven into the woods. One fire doesn't just burn trees. It can burn roads,
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wipe out homes, and trap people fast. We don't have a buffer zone or fire breaks that larger
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provinces do. A short-term ban on recreational access is inconvenient for sure. It's also smart.
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One careless step could cost millions and devastate lives. I understand that argument. I do understand
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that there is concern, which is why you need proper forest management. The forests need to be swept.
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They need to be properly cared for. And I would even understand if the government said, look,
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this one area is problematic, and so don't go over here. But a blanket ban across an entire province,
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just in case, is patently absurd. Okay, next, we have Globe and Mail contributor Stephen Mayer.
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He criticized National Post journalists and many others on social media for even questioning the
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forefront. How dare you question this wise authoritarian move, says Steve Maher. He says,
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don't listen to these people. Stay out of the woods. They smell like they're about to burst
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into flames. That is what he said in response to a journalist, Michael Tobe, who just basically
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said that this is all very excessive, which of course it is. Stephen Maher had a lot more to say
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about. I'm going to read a little bit from his Twitter thread. He says, because the Nova Scotia
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government has closed the woods, I went for a run by the side of the road, said along a trail I
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usually use. It's dumb, obviously, since I would not start a fire by running on a trail, but c'est la vie.
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So he admits the absurdity of it. He says then, the woods are dry, are tender dry. I think the
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province is right to have ordered the woods closed. You can't just ban unsafe activities. You have to ban it
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all. You have to ban it all, folks. That's the mentality. Just ban it all, right? Most people
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won't be out there doing irresponsible things like smoking in the woods or starting campfires.
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They know that it is dangerous and most people have common sense. But instead of trusting people,
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instead of saying, follow these guidelines, follow these rules, no, we have to resort to a blanket
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rule and then a blanket ban. And then you have useful idiots like these saying you have to ban it all.
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It's just responsible. Stephen Maher goes on to say, there's a lively debate on this website,
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talking about X, with libertarian-minded people from points west, blaming Tim Houston for overreach.
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But I suspect Nova Scotians support the measure of Nova Scotians locked down hard and early during
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the pandemic. As a result, we had lower mortality. It looks like the death rate was actually lower
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than normal. And he wrote, some people are having emotional reactions to the forest, Nova Scotia
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forestry policy. Yeah, because in a free society like Canada, you shouldn't just be able to lock it
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all down. And he even mentions that during COVID, they were somewhat successful because they locked
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it all down. Well, you know what? Sweden did the exact opposite thing and they also had lower
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mortality rates. So explain that one, Steve Maher. But that is the problem. People, it's normalized.
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We've normalized this idea that the government can just order everybody to stay inside and say no to
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the forest. And it isn't just Nova Scotia folks. New Brunswick has followed suit. So on Saturday
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afternoon, we got the announcement from Nova Scotia premiere that they will also join Nova Scotia with their
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own forest ban and basically just making kind of the same argument, except for, listen to this folks,
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because speaking at a press conference, New Brunswick premier Susan Holt said that the hiking
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ban isn't actually about preventing fires in New Brunswick, but preventing possible injuries. Play that
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clip. Me going for a walk in the woods is going to cause a fire. I can understand why people think
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that that's ridiculous. But the reality is it's not that you might cause a fire. It's that if you're
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out there walking in the woods and you break your leg, we're not going to come and get you because
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we have emergency responders that are out focused on a fire that is threatening the lives of New
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Brunswickers. And if you take your boat out fishing in a pond in Crown Land and you capsize,
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we're not going to be able to come and help you out because our first responders are focused
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on an immediate and serious threat to our province. Wait a second. So it's not even that they don't
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trust you not to start a fire, but that they can't get to you to save you because they're so busy. So
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now folks, we have politicians justifying lockdowns because they're overworked. They're overworked and
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underfunded. And so they just can't, they just can't help you if you get hurt. And therefore you're
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just not allowed outside. You're just not allowed outside in Canada because you might get hurt. And our
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first responders might be busy. This is totally insane. Okay. This is totally insane. And Canadians
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deserve to be mocked rightily. I want to point to a social media post by Shopify CEO Toby Lutke
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mocking government overage. This is absolutely right. He writes, true north, strong and free with a little
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Canadian maple leaf. Little asterix there, except you're not allowed to go in the woods. That is
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absolutely right. Okay. It is so absurd that we have this entire elbows up movement that we,
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people on the political left, liberals, CDC crowd, love to talk about waving the Canadian flag, love
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to talk about elbows up, love to champion the charter of rights and freedom, except for then they can
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also sit there and ban you from going in the woods, not because you could start a fire in a very dry
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season, but because you could fall and get hurt and that you might have to wait a long time to get
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help or heaven forbid, you might have to get help from someone in your own community. You might have to
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make a phone call and get someone in your family or someone else to help you. But no, no, no, we're
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just going to ban everybody from going in the woods. CTV contributor Sharon Khan mocked Toby Lutke of
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Shopify for opposing the force ban. This is what she wrote on X. Being Canadian isn't about whining that
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you can't stroll in the woods during a fire ban. It's about knowing when to shut it down for the
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greater good. The real danger is leaders like Toby who worship freedom at all costs, even if it means
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watching the province burn. Wow, quite the hyperbole there. Is the province burning? Is the province
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burning? Quick question. Well, look at this. We have a map of Nova Scotia so that viewers can see the
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actual forest fires that are happening in the province. And there are currently two active forest fires. There
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are two small and contained forest fires, as you can see. So no, the whole province isn't up in flames. No, there
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aren't massive wildfire raging across the province right now, just like what we saw in France earlier
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this summer, what we've seen in California or Hawaii over recent years, devastating fires. And yes, in
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large part that was because they didn't evacuate fast enough. This isn't, we're not talking about
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evacuating from a live fire here, right? We're talking about banning people from staying inside
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lest they start a fire or even lest they get hurt and we can't get to them on time. So just totally over
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the top from the legacy media and social media commentators. I have one more, Laura Babcock,
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who is just like your traditional, typical CBC lib, Trudeau and on type on acts. This is what she
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writes. People who are complaining that they can't go into the woods during fire season remind me of the
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same people who were complaining they couldn't go to parties during the pandemic. Selfish and small
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minded. They never care about the greater good. The greater good folks. No, you can't enjoy your life.
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No, you can't live in freedom, even though it's your birthright in Canada, because we've just decided
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that for the greater good, you just can't do that anymore. We're just going to take away your rights
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for the greater good and you go along with it. And if you don't, we will ridicule you and call you
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out. And yes, we have already had our first fine handed out from the Nova Scotia government. So this
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isn't just a scare tactic. They're actually out there handing out these fines. A veteran has been
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fined $28,000 for the crime of walking in the woods in Canada. In a video shared on X, retired
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Canadian veteran, Jeff Evely walked into the woods and opened the fines of Nova Scotia's ban moments
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before being fined nearly $29,000 by provincial environmental officers. There are environmental
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officers out there patrolling the forest, monitoring them, making sure you don't go outside.
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And if you do, you will get punished with the full extent of a fine handed out by the
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feds, by the, by the province. And this is a longer clip, but I'm going to play it 65 seconds
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so that you can see the absolute ridiculousness of this all. Let's play that clip.
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This is the DNR office on Mountain Road in Coxete, Nova Scotia. And this is not the woods. Back
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here, this is the woods. So I have a couple of conservation officers with me right now who
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are not on camera, but have advised me that if I go into the woods, if I defy their orders
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to go into the woods, then I will be fined. And they also said that they would double my fine
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to $50,000. I don't know that there's a good spot to do this, but I'm just going to make
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this as painless as I can for those guys and go in here. And they have me on camera.
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Fine is $28,870,250. Okay. I thought it was $25,000. It's $28,870. Oh, victim fees. Okay.
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Sounds good. I have a ticket here for, let me see if you can see that, $28,870.50 for victimizing
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somebody. So in a country where thieves break into homes, break into cars, where you have
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heinous crimes happening almost every day, judges giving shortened sentences for immigrants so
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lest they don't get deported. Here we have a veteran in defiance of the law, doing it intentionally
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just to basically see if they're being sincere with these fines. Yes, they are. Not only do you
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have to pay the $25,000 fine, you also have to pay taxes on that fine and something called a victim
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fee, which I have no idea what that is about. But this is absurd, folks. And I'm proud to report,
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happy to report that the Canadian Centre for Constitutional Freedoms will be working with
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Jeff Eveli to challenge this forest ban as they should. Okay. I want to share some of my thoughts
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as to why I think that this is such a big deal. So as usual, as typical, the CBC lib crowd are
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intentionally misreading the negative reaction, right? They're pretending that people who are
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criticizing this are just libertarians. They're Westerners. They don't understand Nova Scotia.
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They don't understand the threat that is happening. Maybe they don't understand the collectivism of a
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place like Nova Scotia. And really, this is just about the government acting in the greater good.
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Now, let me just tell you, if this was actually the government acting in the greater good, if there was
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a clear and imminent danger, an evacuation order would be necessary, it would be reasonable,
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and no one would be questioning it, right? If folks from Los Angeles or Maui or even the town
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of Jasper had been evacuated, people wouldn't question that, right? For their safety, that is
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what the greater good is for. That is what a responsible government would do. If there's
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imminent danger, evacuate. Nobody would question that. In fact, they would applaud it. It happens all
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the time during floods, during hurricanes and other natural disasters, including force fires.
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But what we oppose is governments ordering people to stop healthy outdoor activities just in case.
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And a permanent ban, an indefinite ban until the end of summer, until it starts snowing,
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basically. A government saying that you can just shelter in place. We now have that power to force
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you inside. During the dark ages of COVID, the government created this power. Well, they didn't
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actually create it. They borrowed it from communist China. This is a power that the communists use in
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places like China. They can just ban you from going outside and order you to shelter in place.
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And folks have no choice but to go along with that. But that is not a welcome public policy
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development in a free and democratic society. Governments should not have this power. Now, let me just
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tell you, folks, we should have fought harder against these restrictions during COVID. Yes, in the
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very early days, we're all concerned. We didn't know what was going to happen. And so maybe we could be
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forgiven for going along with it for the first two weeks. Remember that two weeks to flatten the
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curve? But the extended, over and over, overly used orders to stay inside, to remain indoors,
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to shelter in place, to work from home, et cetera, et cetera, should have never been allowed in the
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first place. Thankfully, we finally did have an uprising against it was called the Trekker Convoy.
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We all know how that ended with government propaganda units and former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
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absolutely, inexplicably demonizing these people in horrendous ways. Don't get me started on that.
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But we should have not allowed it to do it because now governments have that as part of their arsenal.
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It's just another tool in the toolkit. We can just order people to shelter in place, order everyone to
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stay inside, say no forest. You're going to ban you $25,000 for going into the forest. Folks,
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this is the road to serfdom. We are on the road to serfdom. We are well along this road. And that is why
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this needs to stop. Do not allow them to normalize this. Fight back with every ounce that you can.
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Good for that individual for defying the rule. Hopefully that forest ban will get overturned. You won't
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actually have to pay that fine. But if you don't, if we just go along with it, like the CBC journalists
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and the Globe and Mail journalists are all telling you that you have to every year, every year during the
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summer, rather than clearing out the forest and having responsible forest management, rather than just being
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concerned with specific areas that could be at risk, the governments will use this every time
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they can. They will just say, you know what, time to shelter in place. Forest fire season's coming. We don't
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want anyone to get hurt. Everyone just be good little, good little people and go into your house, go along with
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what we are saying. And we cannot allow that. That is not something that we should go along with, which again, is why
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we need to fight back against this. All right, folks, I am very pleased today now to be joined by
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Jonathan Wellam. He is a president and CEO of Rocklink Investment Partners. Rocklink is an independent
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investment managing firm focused on creating portfolios of high quality assets. It's based out of Burlington,
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Ontario. They are a proud sponsor of Juno News. Jonathan has years of investment and financial
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experience, and he is joining our show today to provide viewers with helpful financial advice and to
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provide analysis on Canada's current fiscal outlook. For more information about Rocklink and their services,
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please visit rocklink.com. That's R-O-C-K-L-I-N-C dot com. Jonathan, thank you so much for joining the
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Candice Malcolm Show. How are you? I'm doing very well, enjoying a lovely summer here in Toronto, and
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the stock market's been pretty good too, so no complaints when you're in the investment industry.
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Well, there you go. And in Ontario, we're still allowed to go in the forest. We're still allowed
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outside, unlike our brothers and sisters out east. You had an op-ed here at Juno News called
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The Moral Decline, The Path to Currency Collapse in Canada. So why don't you walk us through that?
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Well, one of the things that we've been observing the last couple of years, of course, is the high price
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of gold, silver, some of the commodities going up. And I was quite intrigued by a lot of articles that I was
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reading that suggested that when the currency starts to weaken, that that's when it leads to moral
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problems and moral issues, social issues and so forth. And I thought, well, this is actually very
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untrue. I mean, yes, as currency weakens, it's going to lead to further problems. But why do we
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experience currency declines in the first place? And so you go back and, of course, you look at
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history. I started in that op-ed, even going back to the Old Testament, back to the prophet Isaiah
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speaking about the corruption in the societies back then. And one of the indications that you know
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a society is quite evil and corrupt is it dilutes its currency. It waters it down. And back then,
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of course, they had silver coins. And so they would water it down with dross or non-silver
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metals. And so when you look at our own situation in Canada, I think people don't fully realize,
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we're starting to see some of the impact in our economy and the standards of living, which have
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collapsed for our young people over the last couple of decades. But they don't realize how much our
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currency has lost value over the last 50, 54 years. And so if you go back to what I did in the
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articles, I went back to 1971 when Richard Nixon, the President of the United States, took the U.S.
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off of the final remnants of a gold standard. Gold was $35. Today it's $33, $3,400. So it's up 95 times.
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And then if you look at the debt, if you look at the debt of the United States, similar to Canada,
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the debt level has increased by 92 times. And then the money supply is up by about 82 times.
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And so what you've seen here is you've seen largesse, governments getting larger and larger,
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promising more and more, taxes going up, regulations going up. You've seen deficits increase,
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accumulated debts go right off the charts. And what, of course, what happens eventually is you
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crowd out private money, you crowd out productivity, you start to become a redistribution economy,
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and you don't make things anymore, and you don't produce things anymore, and you don't dig holes and
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develop your resources like we're seeing in Canada. And what happens? You lose purchasing power and
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wealth levels start to decline. And so that was really the purpose of the article that, you know,
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what's led to that, you know, lack of hard work, virtue standards, breakdown in the homes and the
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families in our country and so forth. And so you've had a lot of moral and ethical issues, which have
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gotten us to the place where we are now. And so our issue is, if we're going to fix these things,
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we have to acknowledge the foundation has been really broken. And when you look at your currency,
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and you look at the loss of your purchasing power, that's one of the best indications that
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something has really gone wrong in your country. Well, it really is a stealth tax on middle class
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and on people who save, and it's punishing people who save. Your article does a great job of going
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through the history of it. And to me, Jonathan, it's so frustrating, because it seems to me that every
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time governments do this and print massive amounts of money, the same thing happens. We deal with
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sky high inflation, right? You drown out the money supply. And so you know, you walk us through,
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it happened in the Roman Empire, it happened in the French Revolution, it happened in obviously
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Zimbabwe and places like Argentina. And yet, post COVID, you know, I could have told you that this
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was going to happen. They told us it was something new called modern monetary theory, and that all you
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had to do is just print money. And it was like magic, that that wasn't going to happen. And then we all
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went through inflation, then they tried to gaslight us and say, Oh, no, the inflation had nothing to do
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with our spending, it was transitory, or it was just because of supply chains. And it was because
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of COVID. No, it wasn't. It was because of the printing of money. And I feel like we're having
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similar, we're similarly being gaslit, because every, every, every problem in Canada, it's easy,
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there's a scapegoat, they just blame it on President Trump and say, this is all because of the tariffs.
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There's a report last week that Canada lost over 40,000 jobs, which is the most since the pandemic
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jobs lost 40,000 positions in July. That's pretty scary. And yet the liberals and the media and CBC
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kind of just shrug it off and pretend that it's about President Trump. But it isn't right. The
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Canadian economy is in trouble independent of what's happening. Absolutely. These trends have
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been in place now for 10 years plus. And I would argue even they were some of these trends that started
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going back a couple of decades. They certainly were exacerbated and made much worse from the days
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when Justin Trudeau took over, and the liberal policies, which are basically socialist left-wing
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policies. And so if you crowd out the private sector, and you don't make things and produce, and you grow
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your economy, then of course prices are going to go up if you flood more currency into the system. It's
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impossible not to. And when you look at President Malay down in Argentina, what he's doing is trying to
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reverse everything that we're actually doing. What is Trump doing in the United States right now?
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He's unleashing capital. He's lowering the cost of capital. Money's coming into the country.
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You get productive businesses to expand. And that's the way you're going to deal with inflation.
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We're doing the exact opposite. So it shouldn't surprise us. Our standard of living in Canada
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cannot increase. It has to go down if we continue on the policies in which we are the road that we've
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been on now for the last 10 years plus. And Prime Minister Carney is not making any changes. His
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ideology is the same as we've seen the last 10 years. And you can see him basically slow-walking
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everything. And what we need to do is unleash capital, get capital back in this country, start
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to develop the oil sands, further pipelines, develop our uranium more, all of our resources,
00:27:31.300
the developments of our energy, lower our cost of energy, get off these crazy EV mandates, let the
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market determine where our energy should be developed. That's what will lower inflation and
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drive up our wealth. And we're starting to see what's happening in the U.S. And it's going to be
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a major contrast between Canada and the United States because of policies, not because of tariffs.
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I mean, tariffs can make things a little bit more, put a little more pressure on us, but that is not
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the underlying reason at all. Well, so it feels like a bit of a contradiction then that the stock
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market is doing so well. You mentioned the top of the stock market is doing quite well. I noticed
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last week that the TSX, the Toronto Stock Exchange, hit an all-time high. I think that was in large
00:28:11.200
part because of Shopify. Shopify has become the number one stock, the highest valued company in
00:28:17.080
Canada. Full disclosure to the audience, my husband is an executive at that company. And so I'm
00:28:21.040
obviously cheering on Shopify. I think it's a great success story for Canadians. It's a company that
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enables small businesses to move their business online and helps people connect with customers.
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It's a great Canadian success story. So walk us through a little bit about the stock market,
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why it's doing so well, and how it can do so well even when we are governed in a way that's been
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sort of driving middle-class prosperity down, making the cost of living so expensive, and just
00:28:46.440
making it really unaffordable for young Canadians. Yeah, one must remember that the TSX or the Toronto
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stock market, which you're referring to, still have very large corporations, and many of these
00:28:56.100
companies have expansive operations south of the border and around the world. And so they are
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actually profiting from some of the developments in the United States and some of the opportunities
00:29:05.160
down there. We also have a large materials or commodity sector, and that also has been going up
00:29:11.500
quite a bit because people are concerned about the drop of their currency values. Going back to the
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currency issue again, if fiat currency is going down in value, then commodities typically will go up
00:29:21.040
to protect you in value. So gold has been going up, some of the precious metals. Canada's got some
00:29:26.280
great companies in that space. And so those companies have been doing well. But I think if
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you look at even some of our big infrastructure companies, the Brookfield companies, which have
00:29:35.320
been really topical, of course, because of Bart Carney, they're doing very well. But I mean,
00:29:39.620
they're expanding all around the world, but they trade in the Toronto stock market. So I think it's
00:29:43.560
the smaller businesses, the really Canadian-centric companies that are under more pressure,
00:29:48.300
they're under the radar screen and not necessarily reflected within the TSX itself.
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But boy, if we had proper governance and policy out of Ottawa and across most of our provincial
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governments, because we have very poor leadership at the provincial level too, in many of our provinces,
00:30:05.180
speaking from Ontario, I'm horrified with Doug Ford's policies as a business person. And if we had
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better policies, we would unleash amazing growth in this country. The wealth in this country is
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almost unprecedented around the world. But you have to develop it, and you have to want to develop
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it, and you have to bring the capital in, and you have to lower the cost. So we would have a much
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higher TSX if we had proper policies.
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Well, I think that Argentina's President Mele is providing a great example of what policy changes
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All right, folks, you can find out more at rocklink.com. That's R-O-C-K-L-I-N-C.com. Jonathan,
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thank you so much for joining the show. And thank you for sponsoring Juno News and this episode.
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Thank you very much, Candice. Love the program and the work that you're doing.
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All right, folks, that's all the time we have for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll be
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back again tomorrow with all the news. I'm Candice Malcolm. This is Candice Malcolm's show. Thank you
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and God bless.
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