Juno News - June 24, 2025


Alberta Conservatives BEAT separatists in by-election, Carney wants a “new world order”


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303

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00:00:00.000 Hi, I'm Candace Malcolm, and this is The Candace Malcolm Show. We have a great episode for you
00:00:05.720 today. We're going to do a bit of a deep dive into the by-election results yesterday in Alberta.
00:00:12.420 And to do that, I'm really pleased to be joined by one of my favorite guests here on The Candace
00:00:15.820 Malcolm Show. I'm talking about Wyatt Claypool, who is a political commentator and founder of
00:00:21.200 The National Telegraph. Wyatt, welcome to the podcast.
00:00:25.020 Absolutely. Thanks for having me on.
00:00:26.320 Okay, so we had both the candidates in the old Stittsbury-Three Hills race on the show on Friday.
00:00:34.100 We interviewed Cam Davies, the head of the Republican Party of Alberta, and Tara Sawyer,
00:00:39.760 who is the candidate for the UCP. We were kind of teeing it up as a close race. I think that Cam
00:00:46.020 Davies, obviously he's leading a party, he's a party leader, and he's running this by-election.
00:00:49.980 It was almost a gift to the separatists, right? The fact that they were having a by-election
00:00:53.880 in this riding, one of the most conservative ridings in the entire country, certainly one
00:00:59.580 of the most conservative ones in Alberta. And because it's a by-election, it sort of gives
00:01:03.340 people the opportunity to send a message to perhaps Premier Smith and the UCP that they're
00:01:10.260 unhappy and that they want the talk of separatism to be taken more seriously. And yet, I think
00:01:15.440 that the results were pretty lackluster. So here are the results, folks. The UCP candidate,
00:01:19.480 Tara Sawyer, came in with 61% of the vote, wins handily with a majority. Second place,
00:01:25.120 interestingly, was the NDP. Bev, too, he's got 20%. And then in third place came Cam Davies
00:01:31.320 and the Republicans with 17%. People were talking about him getting maybe upwards of 20, 25, even
00:01:37.240 30%, we were hearing. So 17% behind the NDP. To me, it's quite lackluster. What do you make
00:01:46.160 of it, Wyatt? Well, they're already trying to basically unskew the race to tell us, or people
00:01:52.660 from the Republican Party of Alberta, that the results are actually better than you think.
00:01:57.380 This was actually a really good result because it's the first real election that the party
00:02:02.220 is running. And I don't think that's a good explanation because they had been previously
00:02:07.160 playing up the race that this is going to be the Republican Party of Alberta, really taking
00:02:11.940 it to Danielle Smith, maybe not winning, but giving them a run for their money and coming
00:02:16.760 in third place behind the NDP, who probably didn't invest pretty much anything into this
00:02:21.540 by-election is really pathetic. And the thing is that it's possible for separatists to win this
00:02:27.800 riding. If people remember, Gordon Kessler, the leader of the Western Canada Concept Party,
00:02:32.840 provincially won this riding in a by-election in 1981, specifically Olds Didsbury. He got 42%
00:02:40.340 of the vote, beat social credit by 28, then after that came the progressives at 25, didn't end up
00:02:46.380 winning the general election after that. But if you invest your time into this area and you make
00:02:52.160 a good pitch for why you're the right person to represent the area and, you know, push for
00:02:57.120 independence, you can do it. I think that the entire campaign that the Alberta Republican Party ran
00:03:03.080 felt too much like an anti-UCP campaign rather than a pro-independence campaign. And it's a common
00:03:10.080 problem with the independence movement in Alberta, oftentimes being disgruntled with the UCP and being
00:03:17.160 in favor of independence kind of muddled together. People who probably wouldn't have run against them
00:03:22.020 end up starting new parties in order to supposedly push for independence. But it's really like an anti-PC
00:03:30.140 or an anti-UCP kind of move. Yeah, I got that impression. You know, I interviewed Cam Davies
00:03:36.140 and I can see the appeal in the idea in, you know, him himself. He's a well-spoken young man and he has,
00:03:42.460 you know, good ideas or ideas that I'm sympathetic to. And yet when I interviewed him, I did, I did,
00:03:47.940 it did feel like almost a little personal and petty to me. Like he was talking about how his, his concerns
00:03:52.520 with Premier Smith were about like procurement and he was complaining about COVID-era policies. You
00:03:57.320 know, it's like, hello, Danielle Smith was not the Premier during COVID. She was actually one of the
00:04:01.800 most vocal critics of it. And so much so that Premier Kenney, the person who was overseeing,
00:04:08.020 who was a Premier during COVID, got removed by his own party, right? So to me, that just seemed kind of
00:04:13.840 off, off message. I also think that calling the party the Republican Party, I mean, look,
00:04:19.760 like, I like the Republicans. I think that the Republicans are the better party in the United
00:04:23.840 States. But I don't think that that's, that's the mainstream view in Canada. I think even
00:04:28.640 Conservatives don't necessarily see themselves like Republicans. And so using that name, the color red,
00:04:34.840 right? In Hubbard, everyone sees red as liberal red. So I think that there were just some very sort
00:04:38.880 of surface level errors. And then if we go across the rest of the province, so there was, we said there's
00:04:45.440 three by-elections last night. There was Edmonton-Ellersley, which is a Southern riding.
00:04:48.580 In Edmonton, and the NDP ran away with this one with 50%. The UCP got 38%. And the Republican in
00:04:57.720 that riding only got 3%, right? And then Edmonton Strathcona, the other one that we had our eye on
00:05:02.020 because NDP leader Nahid Nenshi was running in that riding. He won. I mean, this was going again,
00:05:07.620 that's a small riding at the University of Alberta. So this is like the most socialist part of Alberta.
00:05:12.600 NDP leader Nahid Nenshi wins with 82% of the vote. Unbelievable. Those are like Rachel Notley
00:05:19.240 levels, a huge resounding victory up there. And interestingly, the Republican candidate in that
00:05:25.940 riding only got 0.7%. So I don't know, maybe a few dozen people voted for the Republican. The UCP got
00:05:32.520 13% in that riding. So, you know, there was basically no showing for the Republican party
00:05:37.340 anywhere outside of this one riding in old. And I don't know, do you think that this is a good
00:05:43.960 enough showing for the party to continue? Do you think Cam Davies will stay on as leader? And what
00:05:47.880 do you think about the resounding victory of the NDP in Edmonton Strathcona?
00:05:53.000 Well, with Edmonton Strathcona, just to start off with, that's a riding that even when the NDP used
00:05:59.600 to only win one or three seats in an election, they would always win Edmonton Strathcona. It's not
00:06:05.380 surprising. I guarantee the UCP didn't put more than, you know, just buying the standard amount of
00:06:11.080 signs that usually buy for the opponent of the NDP leader in that sign to go, you know, just put them
00:06:16.320 up, do a good showing. And that said, I guarantee the UCP candidate didn't think they were going to
00:06:21.200 win. And so, but yeah, it didn't, it doesn't really mean much. It's a riding that last time
00:06:26.420 the NDP didn't win, it was 1992. And in fact, that was the liberals winning it. Last time the
00:06:31.260 PCs won, it was 1982. It's been a bit of a while. And so when it comes to, I guess what this,
00:06:39.000 it doesn't really mean much when it comes to that riding. Edmonton Ellerslie, the NDP did drop 11
00:06:45.120 points. The UC gained a couple points and the Republicans gaining 3.4% or whatever,
00:06:51.000 at least demonstrates that there's maybe more of a vote on the right in that area in general.
00:06:55.980 I don't take too much away from it. By elections can be very strange results compared to actual
00:07:00.560 general elections. And that again, is the problem for the Republican Party of Alberta. It's easier
00:07:05.340 to post a good result in a by election. Just again, look at Western Canadian concept in 82 winning
00:07:11.620 the riding. It's harder to translate that to an actual general election. So they were in an
00:07:17.620 idealized circumstance. And not only did they not win, they came third place. And then when you go
00:07:23.800 poll by poll, they didn't even win a singular poll. You would expect that maybe in a very deep rural area
00:07:30.400 that they would be able to drive out, you know, 150 people for their cause. It's a small poll. So maybe
00:07:36.960 that's the majority. They just couldn't even do that. And so what I think this is going to do,
00:07:41.540 the Republican Party of Alberta, is that it's a good enough result. I think the result is very
00:07:45.560 specifically 17.6%. They can say, hey, it's a great first time showing. And they can probably
00:07:51.720 raise money from the usual suspects that will donate to something like this. But I think Cam Davies is
00:07:57.840 probably going to find himself in a bit of a leadership struggle for the next year or so. Because
00:08:03.060 I think he's proven he's not the charismatic leader who that we're always talking about in
00:08:07.700 Alberta, that a separatism is one charismatic leader away from happening. I don't think it's
00:08:12.100 Cam Davies. I don't even personally dislike Cam Davies. Anyway, we have to protect our local
00:08:16.540 political characters in Canada. And he's definitely a political character. But yeah, there was just
00:08:21.180 nothing about that campaign that demonstrated to me that that there's traction because they keep
00:08:26.520 talking about polls showing separatism is at like a popularity rating of 45%.
00:08:33.060 One, those polls tend to be one offs. If you look at Janet Brown, who's the most accurate
00:08:37.120 pollster in Alberta, and some of the others, they're showing around 32%. And even then,
00:08:41.980 some people like the UCP more than they like the very risky chance of trying to go for an
00:08:47.100 independence party, and potentially throwing another government to the NDP, who's definitely
00:08:51.840 not even going to let you put forward a citizens petition. So I think that's kind of where we sit
00:08:57.200 right now. The party's probably going to keep being around, but especially their Edmonton
00:09:02.300 Ellerslie result of 3.4%. I don't think it's going to scare the conservatives too much because
00:09:08.880 that's 3.4%. And we saw the Republicans actually paying for door knockers to go around that ride,
00:09:15.380 like half more, almost a dozen people, half a dozen people, at least they went around one time,
00:09:20.260 and they could still only achieve that very small result in an urban area.
00:09:24.080 Well, that was going to be my question. I mean, we didn't see the vote splitting that some were
00:09:27.160 concerned about. But if you're Premier Danielle Smith this morning, looking at these results,
00:09:31.900 right? Like, I know Premier Smith herself is not a separatist. She's been quite clear about that.
00:09:35.780 That's not the path that she wants. She wants more independence, more sovereignty, but not
00:09:39.540 separation. But obviously, there are people who are separatists within her own party.
00:09:45.800 And I think that the fact that she changed the threshold for this initiative act made it more
00:09:50.320 possible to have a referendum. She's obviously listening to those people. But I'm wondering if,
00:09:55.780 you know, if you're in the Premier's office this morning, if you're the Premier, so what do you
00:09:58.880 think they're thinking? Are they happy? Are they relieved? Are they nervous? Like, what do you
00:10:02.140 think this by-election result tells them? Oh, I think they'd be very happy. I think that this
00:10:06.780 result demonstrated that they basically can hold on to everything they have, even making some small
00:10:12.460 gains in Edmonton. Maybe the Edmonton-Ellersley result isn't going to reset back to what it was in
00:10:17.980 2023. But the Republican Party of Alberta is at probably, at best, in a general election,
00:10:23.740 going to perform like the Wild Grows Loyalty Coalition performed in this by-election or during
00:10:29.160 the last general or the Solidarity Movement ended up performing. A lot of these, like a lot of
00:10:35.120 candidates for a party like the Republican Party were probably scared away from actually joining
00:10:40.520 them, knowing that this is not going to be an easy ticket to getting into office. If anything,
00:10:45.540 like you were saying about the Republican branding, it could end up being toxic for you attempting to
00:10:50.380 actually make the case for you as a local representative on a pro-independence ticket.
00:10:56.360 You could probably just run as an independent, running on independence and do better because
00:11:01.200 at least you're just running on your own brand. You're not having to confusingly go door-to-door
00:11:05.420 and explain that, no, we're not the American Republicans in the wrong county. We are, in fact,
00:11:11.300 a new, like, Alberta-based party. I remember Cam Davies even mentioned that that had become a
00:11:16.300 problem. A lot of people not realizing that we mean republic in the very strict definition of what a
00:11:22.220 republic is. We're not the Republican Party of the United States.
00:11:26.340 Right. And again, I do think, you know, having red signs, a red door, a lot of people are, you know,
00:11:30.640 just have, obviously people who vote in a violation are more sophisticated. And actually, we had True
00:11:35.580 North's Isaac Lamoureux was out interviewing people and doing sort of a straw poll after one of the
00:11:40.760 polls. I was surprised by how sophisticated the voters are. Like, right, when he spoke to one person,
00:11:44.640 it was very, you know, detailed about how they were strategically voting to send a message to
00:11:50.500 Premier that they wanted to take separatists seriously, but not, they probably wouldn't vote
00:11:56.420 that way in a general. Anyway, I do think that having the red signs, a lot of people in Alberta,
00:12:02.380 you know, see the red signs, they see red, they don't want anything to do with the federal liberals.
00:12:05.820 I want to change gears a little bit here with you, Wyatt, and talk about what is happening
00:12:09.960 in the Middle East with Iran and Israel. We're going to talk about President Trump's comments
00:12:14.580 this morning, which were wild. Talk about Mark Carney. And I want to focus in a little bit
00:12:20.160 later in the show on the sort of useful idiots. We did an episode last week on the useful idiots
00:12:25.060 in Toronto and Canada that are just, you know, supporting the wrong side, right? And we have
00:12:30.720 a couple of great examples of that, including, you know, someone who I think we've talked about
00:12:34.960 on the show before, Wyatt, Rachel Gilmore, who always just manages to have the absolute worst
00:12:38.860 take on everything. And there's an example of that. So let's start with President Trump.
00:12:42.400 Speaking this morning, this is Tuesday. And we had the ceasefire called last night,
00:12:48.900 signed Iran and Israel agreed to not bomb each other anymore. And then here we have reports that
00:12:54.880 both sides have broken the ceasefire. And here's President Trump. He's not happy. And he basically
00:13:01.060 makes this comment that's going viral online, saying that both sides don't know what the F they are
00:13:05.720 doing. Let's play that clip. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, okay, now you have 12
00:13:11.340 hours, you don't go out in the first hour, just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy
00:13:16.420 with them. I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning
00:13:22.120 because the one rocket that didn't land that was shot, perhaps by mistake that didn't land.
00:13:27.520 I'm not happy about that. We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so
00:13:34.320 hard that they don't know what the F they're doing. Do you understand that?
00:13:39.740 Wow. So we rarely see President Trump sort of lose his cool like that. But you can tell he's not happy.
00:13:44.540 You know, he didn't. One of the statements and the pieces that was really helpful to President Trump
00:13:50.680 in the 2024 election, in my mind, was that he was the only president sort of in modern times that
00:13:56.300 didn't start a war, that didn't start a war. And that was one of the things that this sort of new
00:14:00.180 anti-war right was really supportive of him over. And so I don't think he wants to be seen as being
00:14:05.600 involved in a conflict in the Middle East. He doesn't really want anything to do with regime
00:14:08.940 change. And so he's quite angry that, you know, they signed the ceasefire, the right was cheering him
00:14:13.700 on, and then all of a sudden it was broken. So we saw on True Social, he posted this first this
00:14:18.640 morning, Israel, do not drop those bombs. If you do, it is a major violation. Bring your pilots home
00:14:23.980 now. And then moments later, he wrote, Israel is not going to attack Iran. All planes will turn
00:14:30.020 around and head home while doing a friendly plane wave to Iran. Nobody will be hurt. The ceasefire
00:14:35.280 is in effect. Thank you for your attention to this matter. So my understanding is that after that
00:14:40.620 explosive clip that we showed, Trump got on the phone with Bibi Netanyahu, the leader of Israel,
00:14:45.900 and basically, you know, what happened was that they, you know, Iran broke the ceasefire.
00:14:51.240 So Israel responded, and then basically the ceasefire went into effect. So what do you make of
00:14:56.880 all that? And I think he's right. And I obviously, I think that Trump is annoyed from almost a marketing
00:15:02.980 perspective, in this case, that when we say ceasefire, we mean ceasefire, and do not use Iranians
00:15:10.740 firing one or two rockets as an excuse to then go back in and start hitting targets again.
00:15:16.500 Like, did they violate the ceasefire? Yes. Let's wait for a more substantial ceasefire,
00:15:21.960 because one rocket is something that the air defenses of Israeli Iron Dome and American air
00:15:28.120 defenses can handle. If they make a major violation, yeah, pal on the crap out of them is probably what
00:15:33.480 Trump would say. But he just doesn't want this to be the narrative that he can't control what's going
00:15:38.480 on in the Middle East. I don't think we're probably actually going to see a flare up from this in the
00:15:42.680 future. And again, it's not because like, you know, I guarantee a lot of people are going to try
00:15:46.680 and play up divisions between him and Bibi when there's no real division. I think it's probably
00:15:52.480 Israeli military commanders just jumping the gun as soon as they see something. You know, it's a high
00:15:57.360 tension area. And when tensions are high, people can kind of act rashly when right now, the smartest
00:16:03.160 thing to do is just let Iran make a couple of dumb violations. They've been trying to throw like swing
00:16:08.700 back at the at the US and Israel in very weak ways since they had their effectively most of their air
00:16:15.080 force taken out their nuclear program taken out. You know, this is just what they're doing for the
00:16:20.280 cameras in Iran, pretending that they didn't lose as badly as they did. Right? Well, we're going to do a
00:16:26.400 bit of a deep dive into this topic tomorrow. So I'm going to move on from this. But certainly,
00:16:34.000 you know, it's interesting to see how President Trump has handled that all. I want to go to Mark
00:16:38.020 Kearney, Prime Minister Mark Kearney, because he did an interview with CNN's chief international
00:16:42.360 anchor, Christine Aminpour. And he made this comment. Honestly, sometimes I just think that
00:16:49.240 Mark Kearney is a terrible communicator, right? So he said that Iran's strike on the US base was both
00:16:55.980 proportionate and deescalatory, and that it was an act of diplomacy, right? So we're talking about
00:17:01.800 the Iranians bombing an American base where Canadians were stationed. And it seems like
00:17:08.020 Kearney is sort of like excusing it or waving it away. Let's play that clip and I'll get your
00:17:14.060 response to it, Wyatt. The military action was also a diplomatic move by Iran. It was, I mean,
00:17:22.320 we never welcome, obviously, hostilities and reactions, but it was proportionate. It was
00:17:28.860 deescalatory. It gives an opening for diplomacy. I think that's the right way to put it. And
00:17:32.980 the question is, does that diplomacy really get traction and move to ending this risk of nuclear
00:17:41.060 proliferation? And does it lead as well to broader, well, a broader ceasefire in the Middle East,
00:17:49.860 including in Gaza? So it's sort of weird to say that when your enemies bomb you,
00:17:54.620 it's an act of diplomacy and it's deescalatory. I think maybe he meant the fact that there was
00:17:59.400 advance warning given and that no one was hurt and that it was just sort of an act to show their
00:18:04.000 own people that they were fighting back, but it wasn't designed to actually hurt anybody. I guess
00:18:08.160 that's what he's talking about. To me, I just get Justin Trudeau vibes that he's just like,
00:18:11.800 not a serious person, doesn't really know what he's talking about.
00:18:14.040 I want to also show you this clip, Wyatt. He was speaking at a EU-Canada summit in Brussels.
00:18:21.360 And, you know, this is like Mark Carney, like in his heaven, right? Like he loves the European
00:18:26.840 Union. He loves being around these WEF Eurocrat types. And here he is applauding the Europeans,
00:18:32.840 talking about creating a new world order together. Kirp Lubinov shared this clip,
00:18:37.120 and then we had CBC Watcher pointing this one out. He says,
00:18:39.720 as the most European of the non-European countries, Canada looks first to the European
00:18:44.840 Union to build a better world. Let's play that clip.
00:18:48.100 We really have two choices as a jurisdiction, as a country in this circumstance. We can nostalgically
00:18:55.760 look back and long for the old order to somehow return, or we can build a new one with purpose
00:19:02.440 and partnership. And as the most European of the non-European countries, Canada looks first to the
00:19:11.520 European Union. Now we're working alongside the European Union to combat climate change,
00:19:17.920 to achieve the sustainable development goals. In these ways, the world knows the strength
00:19:23.380 of our values.
00:19:24.960 Yeah. So I don't think, look, I agree that Europe is the birthplace of our civilization,
00:19:30.700 right? And when it comes to Western civilization, we look to Europe for that. But
00:19:33.700 the European Union is like everything wrong with modern democracy, right? It's just turned into like
00:19:39.240 a huge bureaucracy that wants to control every aspect. They're overzealous. They have no respect
00:19:44.940 for freedom of speech. They allow for the complete Islamification of much of their society. Like
00:19:50.340 everything about the European Union, to me, is the exact opposite of the direction that I would like
00:19:55.660 our country to go. And so again, to see Mark Carney on the world stage like this, pointing us in the
00:20:01.180 wrong direction, this is of great concern to me. I just want to show Stockwell Day's response to all
00:20:07.140 of this. So he's a former leader of the opposition in Canada. He writes, in Canadian history, no PM has so
00:20:12.860 radically and swiftly shifted the sovereign priorities of Canadians to Europe without debate or mandate,
00:20:19.200 aligning us with economic and social policies that are crushing the EU while declaring shared values
00:20:25.540 with China. And then, of course, the CBC News is cheering this all on. I completely agree with that
00:20:31.220 take. What do you make of all this, Wyatt? Well, what a stupid week to be making these sort of
00:20:35.520 statements in as well. It's the biggest policy win or foreign policy win for the old order that's been
00:20:41.540 done in probably the last 10 years, 20 years, destroying the Iranian nuclear program and basically pushing
00:20:48.460 that terror state to the brink of collapse. We have the United States who has a better economy
00:20:53.880 than us. They have, you know, more respect on the world stage naturally. And now we're going to be
00:20:58.500 talking about how we need a new world order and we need to be more like the EU who's been cowering
00:21:04.000 during this entire situation. They've been letting the Americans lead on Ukraine. They've been letting
00:21:09.000 the Americans lead on the Middle East because they're useless. They combined could maybe compete with
00:21:15.340 American power, but they don't. And that's the problem is that Carney is very much what I would
00:21:20.880 consider an aesthetic kind of moderate when it comes to foreign policy. The idea that the attacks
00:21:28.580 by Iran on the American base are de-escalatory and, you know, it's, you know, it's demonstrating
00:21:34.500 their keen eye for diplomacy. You will know someone is a dullard on foreign policy if they constantly
00:21:41.800 talk about escalation and de-escalation. Everything can be just summed up by who's escalating and who's
00:21:47.420 de-escalating without any eye to who's right and who's wrong here. But it's just the very morally
00:21:53.300 relativistic world that Mark Carney lives in. I understand that the context is that, yes, Iran
00:21:59.240 didn't go all out. And so this is kind of a bit of an off ramp. They didn't go all out because they
00:22:04.800 can't go all out because they got stomped to death by the Americans and the Israelis. But I guess,
00:22:09.980 you know, Ayatollah Khomeini is being very, you know, nice and he's trying to play nice. He just,
00:22:18.740 he doesn't have the toys to fire off the Americans. And that's why he fired like, you know, six Scud
00:22:23.700 missiles at them. Right. It's just a safe face. And people who can't tell the difference between
00:22:29.040 the West and Iran. Look, my husband was born in Iran and his family fled that awful dictatorship,
00:22:36.100 right? It is the worst combination of radical, fanatic Islam and communism, socialism. And so,
00:22:43.280 you know, the people who have come to Canada to flee that regime will tell you the stories.
00:22:47.320 They will talk about how awful it was and still is today. And people who can't tell the difference
00:22:52.480 morally between a backwards dictatorship like Iran and the people who are trying to keep the world
00:23:00.820 safe from the predations of the mullahs and the ayatollah, like those people shouldn't be taken
00:23:06.980 seriously. And we're going to talk about a few examples of those. So there was a couple of
00:23:10.760 demonstrations in Toronto over the weekend. The first one was the good guys, Persians and their
00:23:17.620 allies in Toronto demand for a free Iran, free from Islamist rule. This is Juno News reporting over
00:23:23.000 200 Canadians, many from the Iranian diaspora community gathered in Mount Blasman Square.
00:23:30.000 This is really interesting, right? Because people who fled Iran, they're Muslims, right? They are
00:23:34.800 Muslims living in Toronto, living in Canada. And yet when they go to their demonstrations, you'll often
00:23:39.460 see Israeli flags, right? And so that's kind of off, right? Most of the Muslims and the Islamists that
00:23:46.700 are in Canada hate Israel, right? When you see the Palestinian marches, they're very anti-Israel,
00:23:51.860 anti-Israel. And yet here you have Persians that are pro-Israel and they actually are applauding the
00:23:56.820 acts of Israel. I spoke to people in the Iranian diaspora community myself who don't want a ceasefire,
00:24:01.860 right? They want the Americans and the Israelis to finish the job and take out the evil mullahs and
00:24:07.420 the ayatollah. And so it's interesting just to see, you know, these people at this, like you saw
00:24:13.200 conservative MP, Melissa Lansman was there, former PC MPP in Ontario, Goldie Gimari was there as well,
00:24:23.620 you know, promoting this idea that they want to free Iran, that they want the regime to be toppled,
00:24:28.000 they want regime change. And then countering that, Wyatt, we had these crazy people at this so-called
00:24:33.960 hands-off Iran protest. This was organized in part by CUPE Ontario and their president, Fred Hand, who's just
00:24:41.320 sort of seems like a confused, useful idiot on these issues. But the thing that was really shocking
00:24:47.180 to me, Mark Wickens pointing this out on X, an image of a person holding up, there's two of them
00:24:53.740 actually, a man and a woman holding up a picture of the Iranian Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khomeini.
00:24:59.160 This person is a maniacal, like, murderer, right? This person has overseen so much pain and trauma and
00:25:07.280 murder in Iran. And yet in Toronto, you have regime apologists holding them up. Again, when I show
00:25:14.560 pictures like this to people I know in the Iranian diaspora community in Toronto, they're horrified.
00:25:19.400 They're, like, just absolutely horrified. Why are these people in our country? Well, look at this
00:25:22.800 woman. Look at this woman. It looks like she's wearing, it appears to me that she's wearing a
00:25:27.200 Rolex watch. Like, I'm talking about, like, a $10,000 watch, right? Holding up a picture of a
00:25:32.280 deranged dictator that has punished his own people, right? And, you know, wearing a New York Yankees
00:25:37.260 hat, like, kind of like this modern Western woman who's supporting this totally backwards
00:25:42.520 dictatorship. It's so bizarre. And to me, again, it points to our immigration system. Like, why do
00:25:47.400 we have pro-regime Iranians here in Canada, in Toronto? It's unbelievable to see these idiots
00:25:54.940 in Canada. Like, in my mind, these people should be deported. Send them back. If they love Iran so much,
00:25:59.940 if they love the Ayatollah so much, send them back to Iran. What do you think, Wyatt?
00:26:04.160 And that Western woman probably also compares Trump to Adolf Hitler a lot as well, which is very ironic.
00:26:11.200 And that's, and the thing is that I think this should be hopefully a wake-up call to Canadians,
00:26:16.420 that there are real extremists that are living in this country, that we just let them do whatever.
00:26:21.320 This isn't, it's not, it's not really free speech as to show up from a dictatorship as a,
00:26:28.140 effectively a war criminal in many cases. Hide in, hide in Canada. Be here on a false pretense
00:26:35.080 and then go around trying to intimidate members of the Persian diaspora who speak out against the
00:26:41.080 Iranian regime, because that's what these people do. I think we are in a turning point right now
00:26:45.740 where these people are starting to lose the argument that they, they do not represent the
00:26:51.760 mainstream Canadian view on foreign policy. This actually also happened yesterday when it came
00:26:57.320 to the Air India bombing memorials. You had conservative MPs, not just memorializing the,
00:27:04.060 the, the, the, like the tragic result of that terrorist attack, but they're also naming and
00:27:09.840 shaming the Kalistani movement and not putting up with these freaks who go around literally showing
00:27:14.740 up to the memorials to find out who really conducted the Air India bombing. Uh, so yeah,
00:27:19.620 this is, it just demonstrates that the, the, the, where moral relativism takes you. Moral relativism
00:27:27.080 never stays relative. It always ends up siding with the most evil people in the room at the end of the
00:27:31.580 day. Well, what a great way of putting it. Okay. We've saved our favorite useful idiot for the very
00:27:36.240 end, but we're going to cut off the social media feeds here on YouTube and X. I encourage you to head
00:27:40.980 on over to Juno news, become a premium subscriber and watch the rest of the episode. We've got
00:27:46.360 some fun examples here. So join us on the other side.