In this special Christmas edition of The Fighter, host Chris Sims talks about the deal struck between Alberta and the federal government on a possible future pipeline from Alberta to the B.C. West Coast, and the impact of an Industrial Carbon Tax hike.
00:00:33.680She's saying that she hopes that they're going to have a pipeline started from Alberta out to the British Columbia West Coast by September 1st, 2027.
00:02:59.640This is just after he finished signing the latest deal for a maybe future promised pipeline thing with Alberta Premier Daniel Smith.
00:03:07.740and he starts schooling the media, explaining that right now, the current industrial carbon tax
00:03:15.840is around $20 per ton, and it's going to be six and a half times higher. Listen to this.
00:03:23.520Let's put this in context. Before we started these negotiations, before the MOU,
00:03:29.040you, the carbon price trading in the tier market was $20. Not the $95, now $110, of
00:03:40.860the headline price. $20. That was the actual price. That's the actual price that determines
00:03:46.180the investment decision of businesses. Now, what are we doing? We're putting in place
00:03:54.820frameworks, changing the way the market works, a floor price, contracts for differences,
00:04:01.700skin in the game from the government of Alberta, skin in the game from the government of Canada,
00:04:06.220so that we have a functioning market. We have an effective price, 2040, that's six and a half times
00:04:12.580that price. Okay, guys, you just heard from him. And he was getting a question from the media
00:04:19.900saying, oh, environmentalists are basically calling you a sellout for daring to even talk
00:04:24.740to Alberta Premier Daniel Smith, to be seen in the province of Alberta, and to be even talking
00:04:29.340about pipelines. You said bitumen out loud with your face. And then his response was, no, no, no,
00:04:34.820I've been an environmentalist all this time. In fact, he mentioned that he was the UN special
00:04:40.080envoy on climate blah, blah, blah for the United Nations when he wrote this book. Okay, like he
00:04:47.060went back over all of his credentials on this stuff. So again, boy, what we're getting out of
00:04:54.840this is a pipeline promise and a big industrial carbon tax hike reality. And the industrial carbon
00:05:03.820tax hike is going to happen right after Christmas this year. So as of New Year's Day, 2027,
00:05:11.160we're going to have a much higher industrial carbon tax, which will increase the cost of
00:05:17.580everything. And we don't have a private company proponent coming forward yet saying, please take
00:05:25.180our company money, not taxpayers money, and let's build a pipeline together. I wanted to play a
00:05:33.080clip for you from Alberta Premier Daniel Smith as well, because she's in a rock and a hard place.
00:05:39.520She should have said what Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has said. No. No carbon taxes. No consumer carbon taxes. No industrial carbon taxes. No imaginary, like, credit trading carbon taxes. None of that. We're getting rid of all of that. And just stand up.
00:05:58.000But what we're hearing from Edmonton is, what else do you want us to do?
00:06:01.780We have to dance with the girl who brung us.
00:06:03.900And that is right now a majority government led by Prime Minister Mark Carney that is
00:06:17.120If that actually is true and we get private companies like rushing up to the bar to spend
00:06:25.300their money in Alberta again and to put shovels in the ground and reinvest that would be great
00:06:31.140but she was asked about this Premier Smith was asked about the industrial carbon tax
00:06:37.360and what this is doing to Alberta and she says that she would much rather have had it be much
00:06:45.120much much lower than what they just agreed to listen to this what would you pinpoint as the
00:06:51.260concessions that Alberta made to reach this deal? Well, I can tell you that even though we have
00:06:58.660a carbon price, if I had my druthers on what it would be set at, it would probably be somewhere
00:07:05.080around $50 a ton. Because if you look at some of the work of Ross McKittrick, he has indicated you
00:07:11.400could have actually a much lower carbon price and still send the signals to investors about
00:07:16.360and create an incentive market where they would move more towards emissions.
00:07:20.600But those are the things that we have to negotiate.
00:07:23.980The Supreme Court made a decision that the federal government has the right to set a floor price.
00:07:28.400And so we have to make sure that that floor price is a negotiated price
00:07:31.880that is going to have minimal impact on the investment climate.
00:07:35.900So I would say that was a pretty big concession on our part.
00:07:40.080All right. So once again, they did their little signing thing in two speeches,
00:07:43.740and then they both went to their respective corners for about an hour and a half and then
00:07:47.980they each come out separately to speak to the media. What do you think? Leave us a note in the
00:07:53.580comments. What do you think about this latest agreement? Honestly, do you think this is good?
00:07:58.820Do you believe Prime Minister Mark Carney when he says that we could have a pipeline eventually
00:08:04.900being built to the West Coast? I'm trying to be fair, but they don't have a private company
00:08:09.880inking it yet. They don't have agreements from British Columbia and First Nations agreement.
00:08:14.780All this stuff. There's so many different things and strings attached to this. You could weave an
00:08:20.100entire tapestry out of all of those strings. But what do you think? What do you think? Let us know
00:08:25.440in the comments. Do you think it's worth it to be paying a much higher industrial carbon tax,
00:08:31.820which will make, you know, electricity and food and driving around all cost more in exchange for0.98
00:08:38.240a promise of a pipeline to the West Coast, accessing the Asian market. What do you think?
00:08:45.300For more analysis on this, someone who knows this file so well, oh, oh, I almost forgot to mention,
00:08:51.860they actually slipped in kind of a double whammy announcement today. They also announced changes
00:08:56.800to our electricity production. There are so many questions around this, like how does this tie in
00:09:03.520to Mark Carney's decision to continue regulating out the sales of normal gas and diesel vehicles.
00:09:11.400Yes, he didn't get rid of the ban, folks. He's just going to choke off the supply of normal
00:09:16.220cars and trucks in Canada and force people to buy battery-powered vehicles in like four years or so.
00:09:22.840So they all run on electricity. Where's that juice going to come from? There was actually
00:09:27.300two announcements that happened today. And I can't think of a better person to talk with me
00:09:33.640about this. Let's find out. Joining me now is Dan McTague. He is, of course, the head of Canadians
00:09:39.960for Affordable Energy. Dan, I've got my own concerns about this. I don't want to preload what
00:09:46.440I assume yours are. Honestly, what was your take on today's announcement? Let's start with the
00:09:51.780promise of a future pipeline in exchange for a six and a half times higher industrial carbon tax
00:09:57.960jack in the beanstalk the mou is doa you've traded away the farm the economy's economy
00:10:05.060its most important valuable resource for a plan that no one wants that's not necessary
00:10:10.660would be imposed extraordinarily expensive conditions that no country in the world really
00:10:16.900cares about they want oil they want this uh trendy decarbonized nonsense and unless you're
00:10:21.900at middle band out of uh uk and you demand that they shut down the north sea and do ridiculous
00:10:26.600things that bring about the collapse uh of the economy in uk and more importantly uh make
00:10:32.600consumers uh that much worse off uh this thing uh is just a nice announcement uh for mr carney and
00:10:39.160uh daniel smith to do nice things and say nice things at the end of the day no one in the right
00:10:44.980mind is going to back this program unless it comes down to your taxpayers forking over the
00:10:51.180money to build a project that's going to leave us very much high in drive. That was my take too,
00:10:57.400and there's so much to unpack here. Okay, let's start with the MOU being DOA. Number one,
00:11:03.520sitting here in Alberta, I'm not so sure that was a nice things announcement for Alberta Premier
00:11:09.000Danielle Smith. Cards on the table. I've known her for more than 20 years. I don't see how she
00:11:15.880could like what she's doing right now, if I can say that. In fact, when she did a follow-up Q&A
00:11:21.880with reporters, I'm paraphrasing her. She said, if I had my druthers, I would have a carbon tax at
00:11:27.760around 50 bucks a ton. And here we are. It's going to be going up to past 95. It's going to be going
00:11:34.320up much higher than that within the next few years, in just over a decade, Dan. There's so
00:11:41.100much going on here. Why did Alberta agree to this? Do you think that she believes this promise that
00:11:48.760we're going to have a pipeline like digging going by September, 2027? I think it's a question of
00:11:54.980timing. The big companies that have come out and said, we can't attract any investments as a result
00:11:59.820of the energy shock were a little too late these are the people who stood foursquare behind the
00:12:04.740nonsense of shutting down the industry and putting all sorts of draconian unnecessary
00:12:10.540climate net zero nonsense on layered on top of the building of a pipeline which makes no sense
00:12:17.980the reality is that I think I was pleased to see Synovus and Shell and many others come out
00:12:24.140this week where the hell were they a year ago where were they five years ago when they signed
00:12:28.220up for this stuff. I think what they've done is they didn't react quickly enough. And I hate to
00:12:32.940think that the only reason they reacted was because of this energy crisis in which 20% of the global
00:12:37.720supply of oil is now offline. Canada could have alleviated that, refused to. And as a result,
00:12:43.100our Canadian dollar, well, it's frankly costing you and I an extra 40 cents a liter. Imagine what
00:12:47.600it's doing to every other commodity. So I think in terms of the timing here, it's too little,
00:12:53.000too late. And again, there will be no proponent. Nobody's going to put up that kind of money and
00:12:57.720risk those kind of down the road things you're going to have to pay for much less consumers
00:13:01.940i'm in ontario a lot of that oil comes to uh through their you know line uh line five that
00:13:07.300makes its way michigan into line nine i'm going to be paying an industrial carbon tax i'm going
00:13:12.140to have another 20 cents a liter put on the price of gasoline on top of everything else look if you
00:13:16.340hate internal combustion engines and you hate hydrocarbons and you hate natural gas you hate
00:13:20.940oil just damn well come out and say it but what's the alternative living in the state of nature0.93
00:13:24.640eating acorns, wearing animal skins, watching little windmills made in China, and solar panels0.88
00:13:30.320providing you with a little bit of tidbit of energy that you need to maybe get by and make0.61
00:13:34.880your toast in the morning. To Dan's point, for folks who are watching this, who are, you know,
00:13:39.720urban cyclists, your food, everything you eat and use is delivered to you by trucks, plural,
00:13:46.420trucks run on diesel, millions of them. It's like they're their own species in North America,0.98
00:13:52.980going down our highways and byways. There's no way to cut it here, folks. We're dependent upon
00:13:58.660this. And this is why when you increase the carbon tax on things like oil and gas, you increase the
00:14:05.060carbon tax on things like gasoline, diesel, utilities, energy, electricity, all of this
00:14:11.360stuff. Okay. Lastly, on this part, on the pipeline promise and the MOU and all that stuff, I just
00:14:17.960finished playing the clip that indeed, like Carney said it again, that it is going to be six
00:14:23.560and a half times higher. What does he mean by that? Well, as of right now, according to him
00:14:29.060and other eggheads, he says that, I'm sure he would take that term affectionately. I mean it
00:14:33.860that way. I think what he said is the current price, the actual price, the market price of
00:14:40.240industrial carbon taxes was around $20 per ton. This will be six and a half times higher than
00:14:47.540that. So I'm worried, Dan, that the actual producers of oil and gas at the moment of producing a barrel
00:14:55.100of oil are in for a big sticker shock here, aren't they? You're adding $10 to a barrel of oil in a
00:15:02.860market where you want to be more competitive with WTI. How are you going to do that? You're already
00:15:07.220$10 more. And who's going to pay for the cost of what they call sequestration? Who's going to pay
00:15:11.760for the carbon capture? I mean, this doesn't just happen because Pathways comes out and say it's
00:15:16.380cool and trendy ultimately they're going to force that price back onto consumers or worse they won't0.99
00:15:21.480be able to get anybody who wants to buy into this and that means as we saw in the trans mountain
00:15:25.160pipeline this the expansion when we chased out we deliberately our woke net zero climate fanatics
00:15:32.940chased out uh the proponent in that case kinder morgan not only do they have a right to sue us
00:15:38.600for six billion bucks it costs an extra 50 billion dollars of your money and mine to build something
00:15:43.920the private sector is prepared to do for nothing what we made of money in this country last time
00:15:47.780i checked there's a hell of a lot of people going to food banks there's a lot of people can't make
00:15:50.880ends meet they can't afford the rent they can't afford their mortgage the kids can't find work
00:15:54.840this summer but we've got these people going around you know uh like like a great uh pontificating
00:16:00.720how great they are in the world and give these wonderful speeches at the end of the day they're
00:16:05.100leaving the country destitute anybody who goes along with this particular plan is going to find
00:16:08.780out the very hard way no one is going to build this thing anytime soon yeah to your point we're
00:16:13.340not made of money, by the end of this year, our national debt is going to be $1.4 trillion.
00:16:19.300What we pay on interest on the debt this year is more than we are spending at national defense.
00:16:28.320Like I did the math and almost puked. The more than $50 billion we are paying, $50 billion we
00:16:35.740are paying this year on interest on the debt could pay for all of the groceries, okay, for families
00:16:41.860of four, three and a half million families of four for the entire year. Like my skin's crawling down
00:16:49.600before we shift to electricity grid. Cause I wasn't expecting that there was a kind of a
00:16:53.840double announcement today. So folks stay tuned, the whole gas and diesel vehicle band thing,
00:16:58.860the greening of the grid thing, just stay tuned for that. Lastly, this part, I didn't understand.
00:17:04.880I listened carefully to what Carney said, and he basically said, because of it's only $20 per ton.
00:17:11.520and now we're jacking it up to 95 and then 110 and then 130 um and he said how did he put it
00:17:18.800companies see that and investors see that and they're not investing i think he was trying to
00:17:25.640say because the carbon tax is too low like which companies did he mean is he talking about like
00:17:31.100companies that trade in carbon credits or something what was he talking about there
00:17:36.180maybe but his own company brookfield wouldn't damn well buy the colonial pipeline it came
00:17:40.120came with a hundred dollar ton carbon uh uh sequestration and hundred dollar carbon uh
00:17:46.200taxes on it or industrial carbon taxes his company brookfield before he left on his way out
00:17:52.680made the largest purchase of the largest pipeline in north america the colonial pipeline is literally
00:17:58.440the aortic uh if you call fuel line for the entire country the united states of which is
00:18:05.160the largest consumer of oil and products in the world so if it's not going to happen with your
00:18:10.360own company where do you suddenly decide to pull this out of the thin air mark carney has been
00:18:15.880trying to suppress his green credentials and his green move and so what he's trying to do is say
00:18:23.640i'm bringing all things to all people at the end of the day i'm still very much a part of what i
00:18:28.200wrote in that book values and i want net zero at all costs and he repeated that and it was and it
00:18:34.440And it was in response. And folks, if you have not read this, read this. He's got your wallet.
00:18:38.940OK, he was in response to a reporter, a media worker saying, hey, what about the environmentalists?
00:18:47.320They're freaking out and saying that, you know, you're abandoning them.
00:18:50.660And that's it was in response to that that he said, actually, it was way too low and now it's going to be much higher.
00:18:55.480And then he repeated that he was the U.N. special envoy to climate whatever.
00:18:59.800And he wrote this book like he he went right into that, Dan.
00:19:02.580and then he said while he was saying oh that it was too low and now it's going to be six and a
00:19:07.020half times higher in order to get investment he said that now Alberta government and Canadian
00:19:13.800government have skin in the game does this mean like taxpayers are going to be on the hook for
00:19:19.840this yes they are as you are currently with the second carbon tax the clean fuel standard Chris
00:19:24.860you and I've done a lot of work in BC it's 16 17 cents a liter because it's two three four hundred
00:19:29.340dollars per carbon credit we proved that because the federal government had mistakenly during its
00:19:34.160time had to basically do in something called the regulatory uh impact analysis statement said for
00:19:39.340every hundred dollars of carbon credit it's four cents a liter well we're not only talking about
00:19:43.760you mentioned diesel we're talking about all fuels now are going to be impacted by this and no but no
00:19:48.820pipeline in the world is going to be subject to this by the way venezuela has been pulling out
00:19:53.280oil like nothing now unlike those who sat back and said oh venezuela won't be up and running for
00:19:57.540five, 10 years. I tried five, 10 weeks. They're now supplying oil to the United States. They're
00:20:03.220supplying oil to India. And they don't have concerns about pipeline. Russia doesn't have
00:20:07.600that problem. Saudi Arabia doesn't have that problem. No one has that problem except in
00:20:11.040Canada. So why do we impose on ourselves? Are we trying to be cute? Are we trying to be trendy?
00:20:15.780Or we just have to try to go broke? Okay, let's shift. I was hoping you might dispel my
00:20:21.760concerns but no it's true um all right let's quickly shift to the electrification grid
00:20:27.500and how they were talking about going more on renewable to be fair they did mention nuclear
00:20:33.000a couple of times um but i didn't see a lot of data didn't see a lot of stats
00:20:37.900but it sounded expensive i saw a one commentator i think she was from the fraser institute forgive
00:20:43.660me on twitter yeah taking a big picture of the people who were you know the the nodding heads
00:20:48.340who are standing behind people on stage and she said that the people who were standing behind
00:20:53.680them on stage this time wasn't oil companies but it was like power companies I haven't confirmed
00:20:59.460that independently what is going on with this grid change how how is Carney saying we're going
00:21:06.020to double our energy production for the grid like where is this money coming from what kind of
00:21:11.260energy do they mean say where it's come here in Ontario for instance we've seen green energy
00:21:16.560brought in 2009 by the same cast of characters behind Trudeau and Carney drive the cost of peak
00:21:23.160hydro in this province from seven cents a kilowatt hour now to 20. And if it wasn't for the 8 billion
00:21:31.300bucks the Ford government is taking in debt every year to mitigate that, it'd be 31 cents a kilowatt
00:21:37.420hour. We are looking at a way to destroy ourselves. By the way, on nuclear, don't talk to me. I
00:21:42.840represented a riding that had the first major large commercial reactors in the country. It
00:21:46.920served a Pickering for 18 years. So don't tell me it's trendy, it's new, it's cute, or SMRs are1.00
00:21:52.060going to have somehow just small nuclear reactors. They serve such a small population. There's no way
00:21:57.380you can actually have the dispatchability to be able to provide the baseload for modern societies
00:22:03.620unless you build thousands of these at billions of dollars a year. You want to have an idea of
00:22:08.360going towards a doubling to going towards electrification of our economy well even rbc
00:22:13.060that love talked about climate initiative said it's going to be 1.3 trillion dollars you haven't
00:22:19.220got the engineers you haven't got the technicians you haven't got the power workers you have not got
00:22:23.820and nor are you going to get electricians to be able to do these things who the hell's going to
00:22:27.940pay for all this and it's going to double the cost or triple the cost of energy we have to be
00:22:33.120completely in leave of an absence of our own minds to allow something like this to happen
00:22:38.660so guys like drifters like mark carney can go around saying well we'll make some money selling
00:22:43.480heat pumps or we'll make some money because uh we've got a stake here at brookfield uh with
00:22:48.660cameco uh and of course with uh uh not sylvania i'm trying to think the other name of the company
00:22:53.240that they were involved with where they bought significant amounts of uh of uh new future
00:22:58.080nuclear projections regardless of mark carney's own conflicts the reality is this is going to
00:23:03.760lead to even higher hydro costs electrification will be a bit of a really it's going to be a
00:23:08.900damaging to the economy but i guess he needs to improve the amount of evs in this country because1.00
00:23:13.600we have all these chinese uh for for you know four slice uh toasters on wheels coming into canada0.99
00:23:20.420and he needs to provide the energy for it's not about the ai it's not about other things because1.00
00:23:25.920you would use natural gas for that the reality is that this is really a pig in a poke he wants0.66
00:23:31.460people to believe that we can and should do this and he doesn't dig a damn about the consequences
00:23:35.560i think the two announcements were intentional one to pretend he's helping the people on the
00:23:40.500oil side which are bread and butter and at the same time doing something for the climate bed
00:23:45.120fighters out there who really want to make sure that they have their own credentials as far as
00:23:49.600electrification is concerned we don't have that money for this uh this kind of a fantasy uh nor
00:23:54.520as any other country and we need to do something in balance we don't do that by the way we're going
00:23:59.240to produce hydro in this country try to go flood 10 000 miles square miles of land see if you can
00:24:05.240do that today given the permits that you require not to mention the environmental damage not to
00:24:09.640mention the minerals that you have to extract and process which are the dirtiest forms of anti or
00:24:15.400destructive environmental methods that you have this is what we call the green transition paradox
00:24:22.200in order to achieve clean green renewable energy you have to destroy the the environment and doing
00:24:27.480it canada cannot do that it's a conundrum and we're caught in this uh in this devil's barter
00:24:33.000of our own making let's get the hell out of it drop net zero i say that to danielle smith i say
00:24:37.160that to mark carney i say that to any sensible canadian who over the past 10 years realizes
00:24:41.640we've uh driven the cut the the proverbial car right off the cliff even from some um who i would
00:24:48.120describe as climate scientists back in the day when i was in british colombia they pointed out
00:24:52.280that the the creation of big dams um in their perspective the flooding of all the vegetation
00:24:59.400causes methane relation release so again there you are with the with the emissions1.00
00:25:04.840the indigenous people want this the ingenious people will not go along with this they don't
00:25:08.520want a pipeline unless they have ownership they're sure as hell not going to let 10 000 acres 100.65
00:25:12.600000 square miles like they did in the uh james bay projects or other projects in quebec ever
00:25:17.000happen again so those things are out the window and the idea of nuclear takes years 30 40 years
00:25:22.440to build these things smrs no one has one show me one these things are still at the test stage
00:25:28.040they're still at the uh you know the pilot stage uh and then you can talk a lot about these little
00:25:32.680widgets that you have but none of them are practical and so we're really whistling past
00:25:37.080our own financial economic well-being here lastly uh you obviously do head up canadians for
00:25:43.320affordable energy um let's just dream okay if we got rid of net zero if they got rid of all of the
00:25:50.880carbon taxes and bill c69 and the tanker ban and all of that stuff okay basically you know rang a
00:25:57.440dinner bell and said please come invest here please please please come and do it we're sorry
00:26:01.620for all of those roadblocks sorry for the mess with kinder morgan all of that would we be able
00:26:08.060to produce enough energy like both electricity and our gas and diesel that we need for our vehicles
00:26:14.220in order to have affordable energy like what would that look like would that be mostly natural gas
00:26:19.720power plants in the west would we be able to attract investors to build new can-do reactors
00:26:25.340seriously like actual big ones i know they take like 10 years to build each but like is that vision
00:26:30.760is that possible is that financially possible for canada if the government got out of the way
00:26:36.500it's not only possible it has to happen or the country will falter economically i mean reality
00:26:41.980is that no one can afford paying now chris one of the big things i talk about when i do my gas
00:26:46.520price predictions and as you know i've been doing it for many years yes it's the fact that takes 40
00:26:51.080cents you are now paying 40 cents a liter because the canadian dollar no one wants to invest in
00:26:55.440canada we're a bad smell i hate to say it no one wants to touch canada because even if they were
00:27:00.020to make investments even with the guarantees a government could change its mind bring in a bunch
00:27:05.040of people courts which would block you this is not a very safe place to put money and we're the
00:27:11.680only country in the world short of britain and we see what's happening to the starmer government
00:27:15.720that's willing to go down this net zero nonsense this role that has been thoroughly repudiated
00:27:21.640and we simply have to cling to this thing i don't know why but i can tell you one thing as a liberal
00:27:26.520of many years it's not 2015 anymore we're 2026 grow up realize what's around you get a sense of
00:27:33.700reality and let's get back to building and producing the things the world wants right now
00:27:37.840if canada hadn't sat on its thumbs we'd be able to give the rest of the world three four million
00:27:41.800barrels a day we'd make 30 billion bucks out of that that we could put against our debt
00:27:45.540and at the same time we'd help bring down the price in the roof and every canadian be saving
00:27:50.16040 cents a year in the price of gasoline imagine what that would do to dropping the price of food
00:27:54.580dropping the cost of living while at the same time improving our quality of life anybody who thinks
00:27:59.840that co2 is somehow this this terrible little uh you know gas that's going to kill everybody i don't
00:28:06.260i the scientists are walking away from this if you don't like co2 stop exhaling
00:28:10.680lastly um like to your point and i will point out back when former uh ndp premier of alberta
00:28:18.880rachel notley announced her own version of a provincial carbon tax she had oil and gas companies
00:28:24.260standing on stage with her hugging her and kissing babies okay so i'm just calling them out
00:28:29.260I was very happy to hear them, though, maybe too late, leading up to this, pointing this out, saying this is not a good way to invest.
00:28:37.600We're not going to be able to attract investment and money here.
00:28:39.980This is going to cost us too much money and thus it will cost taxpayers too much money.
00:28:44.480Now that the announcement is out, you've looked at the backgrounder.
00:28:48.360Like, what do you think the oil and gas companies, the truly private companies are going to do now?
00:28:53.560No, they're going to say someone else.
00:28:55.080You know, we're not doing this and we don't have to do this.
00:28:57.800you know this you know get along go along to get along is over and those and the harsh reality is
00:29:03.960that many of those companies are now starting to think to get the hell out of the country or
00:29:07.080invest their money elsewhere where they can actually build a pipeline where they can actually
00:29:10.600approve uh projects that the world desperately needs you want you want to continue this idea
00:29:16.120if you have to tax the daylights out of uh everything and to uh comply to someone's imaginary
00:29:21.880role in mark carney's uh own little idea that the world now wants decarbonized oil1.00
00:29:27.320show me one country in the world that's stupid enough to do that and i will show you a stupid1.00
00:29:31.160electorate that's gone along with a guy who's not only a grifter and he's cute but this pied piper1.00
00:29:36.920has got to be exposed for the fact that he's trying to mollify and placate two sides here
00:29:41.480the one side always won the green the grifters they got the money from the federal government
00:29:45.320to go and tell them and and spin their message but the other side the economy the hard work the
00:29:50.200people who are making this run this country run and providing a product the world has come to us
00:29:54.760to ask for he's trying to mollify them as well and he shouldn't and i'm i obviously i'm disappointed
00:29:59.320by danielle smith going along with it but she's probably between a rock and a hard place for0.59
00:30:03.400corporations to go along with this as they did 15 years ago toodle too late next time smarten up
00:30:10.760wake up and recognize that when they're coming after you they're not trying to be nice they
00:30:15.080want you gone they want to bury your product in the ground and with it the canadian economy and
00:30:19.640no one has the right to destroy what makes our country successful you don't like this
00:30:23.720please leave there's the door and take your charitable organizations and foundations from
00:30:28.440other countries with you that don't get any type of scrutiny or review because you're not charitable
00:30:32.920organizations you're political activists and you have to be subject to significant scrutiny
00:30:37.720if not oversight and audits i know you got to go but to your point and i'm trying to be fair0.84
00:30:44.280uh the premier is stuck between a rock and a hard place she's got people saying we want pipelines1.00
00:30:49.160we want this, we want that. She wants the production cap lifted. She wants the energy1.00
00:30:54.180regulations for electricity production lifted. And I'm hearing from Edmonton basically this.
00:31:01.560As everybody knows who's watching this show, Pierre Polyev famously campaigned on getting
00:31:05.600rid of all carbon taxes, stopping Bill C-69, getting rid of the West Coast tanker ban,
00:31:10.060all of the things that Dan and I just talked about for 20 minutes. And I'm hearing from
00:31:15.800Canventon, something that goes along this line, Dan. Well, Polyev didn't win. What do you want
00:31:21.480us to do? We want to build pipelines. We want to get things going. We want to lift our production0.75
00:31:26.580cap. What do you want us to do? And I kind of heard that tone when Smith just told reporters,
00:31:33.440if I had my druthers, this would be 50 bucks a ton and not what it's going to be, which is way
00:31:38.800more. What do you say to that? Well, state of Canadians who voted for the liberals at the
00:31:45.780bad policy that is destroying the nation more than the other policy is this policy which is
00:31:50.400undermining the country and never mind the geopolitical or tensions within the federation
00:31:55.160this is sapping the very economic lifeblood out of the country i would say to those anywhere that
00:32:02.440getting a pipeline is built but perhaps it's best to put our fate with the with the united states
00:32:07.500and get pipelines built to there they're willing to do it they have to do it in this term obviously
00:32:12.200because the democrats get in they're going to turn it over as they did with the keystone xl pipeline
00:32:17.200i suspect that this thing on is going to be kicked around for a long time but mark my words unless
00:32:23.880it's public money and a lot of it borrowed money that your kids and grandkids are going to have to
00:32:28.940pay for which the taxpayers federation will be right on to this thing is not going to get built
00:32:35.380because no company in its right mind thinks that you need to decarbonize as a means of getting oil
00:32:41.060the world is desperate. We're down. We're in an energy crisis right now. We shouldn't even be
00:32:45.180having this bloody discussion. And for people to be completely ignorant to that defies any type0.98
00:32:50.460of logic and it suggests perhaps a reset is needed in Canada, a reset that puts Canadians back in
00:32:55.220touch with reality. Without the energy sector, you're dead in the water, much like this MOU.
00:33:00.720Dan McTague, thank you so much for fighting for Canadians. Much appreciated. Once again,
00:33:06.200And that is Dan McTague. He is the head of Canadians for Affordable Energy. Remember how over the last few decades, you'd hear that smart guy on talk radio say, fill up tonight because you're going to have an eight cent or 10 cent per liter jump, you know, tomorrow at the gas pumps. That's Dan McTague. That's Gas Buddy Dan online.
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