Juno News - February 28, 2024


ANOTHER Carbon Tax Hike？ Poilievre and Trudeau face-off in Question Period


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8 minutes

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141.97925

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1,186

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111


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00:00:00.000 How to axe the tax. This Prime Minister wants to hike the tax. First of all, he wants to quadruple it between now and 2030.
00:00:07.600 And on April 1st, he plans to hike it by 23% with the support of the NDP.
00:00:15.720 The tax hike will be bigger than any increases in the rebate.
00:00:19.420 And therefore, people will be bigger. The average families in all the provinces will be bigger net losers under this tax than they were before.
00:00:28.700 With Canadians unable to eat, heat, and house themselves, will the Prime Minister cancel his plan to hike the tax on April 1st?
00:00:38.160 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:00:40.480 I do believe this might be one of the first times the Leader of the Opposition has ever recognized that there is a Canada carbon rebate,
00:00:48.560 that he is going to cancel checks that he will prevent from delivering to Canadians right across the country.
00:00:54.600 Eight out of ten Canadians get more, households get more money than they pay in carbon pricing in the provinces in which they apply.
00:01:03.340 In Alberta, $1,800 a year to a family of four.
00:01:08.440 $1,200 a year in Manitoba.
00:01:11.520 Even in Ontario, $1,120 to a family of four in Ontario.
00:01:16.760 That's money in their pockets that he wants to take away.
00:01:18.960 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:01:22.380 Ron Gratty mentioned his phony rebates because $1,800 in Alberta is the rebate.
00:01:27.700 That's what he said. You heard him.
00:01:29.520 Here's the gross cost.
00:01:31.380 $2,943.
00:01:33.260 So he's going to take away $2,943, but give back $1,800, and then ask you to be thankful for it, Mr. Speaker.
00:01:46.700 Isn't that just proof that the carbon tax is just like him, not worth the cost?
00:01:51.480 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:01:58.260 The Parliamentary Budget Officer himself recognized that the $1,800 in rebate that we're sending, for example, to a family of four in Alberta
00:02:09.100 is more than that family of four costs with the price on pollution.
00:02:13.740 That is the calculation that is done right across the country that shows that 8 out of 10 families are better off with a Canada carbon rebate
00:02:22.640 than they pay in the price of pollution in areas in which it's brought in.
00:02:27.320 We are both fighting climate change and delivering more money to households across the country, money that he wants to take away.
00:02:34.780 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:02:37.160 Mr. Speaker, the Parliamentary Budget Officer report is in my hands.
00:02:41.300 It's page three of a distributional analysis of the federal fuel charge under the 2030 Emissions Reduction Plan.
00:02:49.060 Google it. Look it up.
00:02:50.700 It's on the Parliamentary Budget Officer's website.
00:02:52.760 You don't have to believe me, and you certainly don't want to believe him.
00:02:55.920 Go look for yourself.
00:02:57.420 The average Ontario family will pay $1,674 in carbon taxes next year.
00:03:04.760 That's $630 more than they get back in rebates.
00:03:08.440 So why doesn't the Prime Minister Google it, look up the report, check the facts, and ask the tax?
00:03:15.200 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:03:18.000 Mr. Speaker, the first and base conclusion...
00:03:22.440 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:03:28.040 Mr. Speaker, the first conclusion of the Parliamentary Budget Officer is in the mouth, on the face of it.
00:03:34.420 Eight out of ten families get more back to the price on pollution through the Canada carbon rebate.
00:03:41.900 The reality is, if one wants to talk about longer-term and broader economic consequences of a price on pollution,
00:03:49.380 you have to talk about the cost of inaction.
00:03:52.300 You have to talk about the benefits of investing and innovating in carbon reduction technology.
00:03:57.900 That's the full picture that the Leader of the Opposition doesn't want to look at,
00:04:02.060 because he doesn't think you can build a strong economy and fight climate change at the same time.
00:04:08.080 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:04:10.760 Mr. Speaker, he's doing neither at the same time.
00:04:14.220 Mr. Speaker, the Parliamentary Budget...
00:04:15.720 First of all, I should catch that word he said.
00:04:17.500 On the face of it.
00:04:19.720 Carbon tax is terrific.
00:04:21.140 Well, the Parliamentary Budget Officer actually did the calculation of the full fiscal and economic costs for the average family.
00:04:27.760 And he found that every family in the middle class is worse off under the carbon tax.
00:04:38.220 For example, in Ontario, the net cost for the average family, above and beyond rebates, is $627 this year.
00:04:47.380 How are they going to pay for that?
00:04:48.440 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:04:53.460 Mr. Speaker, families in Ontario are going to be getting a Canada carbon rebate worth $1,120 this year.
00:05:03.440 That's a family of four.
00:05:05.500 A family in Nova Scotia, $824.
00:05:08.900 A family in Saskatchewan, $1,500 this coming year.
00:05:13.260 And that is more for eight out of ten families than the price on pollution actually is.
00:05:19.880 We are fighting climate change.
00:05:21.680 We are innovating and creating jobs of tomorrow.
00:05:23.920 And we're putting more money in the pockets of Canadians.
00:05:26.680 Checks that that leader of the Opposition would take away.
00:05:29.900 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:05:35.160 Mr. Speaker, here's a very simple way to measure it up.
00:05:38.540 Right here from the Parliamentary Budget Officer's report.
00:05:40.960 The total gross cost of the carbon tax in Ontario is $1,674 for this coming year.
00:05:50.520 $1,674.
00:05:54.640 $1,674.
00:05:57.200 $1,674.
00:05:59.860 How much is the rebate?
00:06:03.360 The three and a half coming minutes.
00:06:06.780 With record-setting wildfires last year, with floods, with climate...
00:06:13.520 Good suggestion.
00:06:24.980 The Honourable Prime Minister from the top.
00:06:26.960 Mr. Speaker, with record-setting wildfires across the country, with droughts, with floods,
00:06:32.280 Canadians know the costs of the impacts of climate change.
00:06:35.680 The Leader of the Opposition has no plan to fight climate change.
00:06:39.860 He's not proposing anything except, Mr. Speaker, to pull away both the price on pollution,
00:06:46.080 which forces polluters to pay right across the country,
00:06:49.820 that puts more money through checks that arrive four times a year in Canadians' pockets,
00:06:55.600 in their jurisdictions where there is a carbon price.
00:06:59.100 We have a plan to fight climate change and put money in people's pockets.
00:07:01.940 He has no plan.
00:07:05.200 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:07:07.260 Whoa, he doesn't need to get angry about it.
00:07:12.520 He's asking some numbers here.
00:07:15.340 Just some numbers.
00:07:16.180 Right?
00:07:17.440 So he was very anxious to talk about these wonderful rebates up until a moment ago,
00:07:22.140 and now he doesn't want to say a thing about it.
00:07:23.960 He even gave them a fancy new name.
00:07:26.120 I'm going to say it again.
00:07:27.040 In Ontario, the gross cost of the carbon tax is $1,674 for the average family.
00:07:34.560 $1,674.
00:07:38.100 How much is the rebate?
00:07:41.180 The Right Honourable Prime Minister.
00:07:43.220 Mr. Speaker, he suggests that I don't have to get angry about climate change.
00:07:48.380 I'm sorry, Mr. Speaker.
00:07:49.640 Canadians are worried and angry about climate change.
00:07:52.580 They see the wildfires cutting across this country last summer that are already started up in Alberta.
00:07:58.760 They see the droughts.
00:08:00.160 They see the floods.
00:08:01.440 They have no plan.
00:08:02.960 Their plan is to withdraw the four-times-a-year checks that land in the bank accounts of Canadians
00:08:09.920 that the Parliamentary Budget Officer demonstrates gives more money to eight out of ten families
00:08:16.280 right across the country in jurisdictions where it's applied.
00:08:19.180 Mr. Speaker, we have a plan.
00:08:20.700 He doesn't.