Juno News - December 13, 2020


Appeased and Displeased


Episode Stats

Length

22 minutes

Words per Minute

168.35847

Word Count

3,776

Sentence Count

223

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

17


Summary

A new low in Canada's policy of appeasement with China, and the mainstream media's unwillingness to report on it. Coming up on The Andrew Lawton Show: The Canadian military is no longer training with China's People's Liberation Army.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Coming up, a new low in Canada's policy of appeasement with China
00:00:16.740 and the mainstream media's unwillingness to report on it.
00:00:22.160 The Andrew Lawton Show starts right now.
00:00:25.740 Welcome to the Andrew Lawton Show, Canada's most irreverent talk show here on True North.
00:00:33.320 It is December 12th and oh my goodness, what a big week for news.
00:00:39.480 I'm going to just be talking about one major story and a lot of the spin-off narratives that emerged from it.
00:00:45.720 And that was a great scoop by our friends over at Rebel News on really a two-pronged story here.
00:00:52.600 The first part of it is the Canadian military training China's military, actually known as the People's Liberation Army.
00:01:00.380 But the other part of it, and I'd say the more insane part of this,
00:01:05.080 is that the Trudeau government was actively fighting and pushing back against a directive
00:01:12.200 and a recommendation from the military itself to stop this.
00:01:15.720 The Trudeau government was saying, no, no, no, we don't want to rock the boat.
00:01:18.680 We don't want to upset China.
00:01:20.180 We have to keep going with this.
00:01:21.920 Now, as it stands now, there is no training happening.
00:01:25.900 Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan had said that the Canadian military is no longer training with the Chinese army.
00:01:31.880 So clearly at some point the government relented on this or the military just said,
00:01:36.740 you know what, we're doing what we want here.
00:01:38.740 But I want to talk about this in a few different contexts here.
00:01:41.760 Because first and foremost, the Trudeau government didn't start this.
00:01:45.280 A lot of people are pointing out that, oh well, if the Conservatives have such an issue with this,
00:01:49.320 Harper should have never allowed this to happen in the first place.
00:01:52.700 I would agree with that.
00:01:54.040 And I'm not obfuscating here because I think, yeah, getting into bed with China,
00:01:58.280 especially the Chinese military, sharing our secrets, our tactics, our tricks,
00:02:02.780 whatever we do in winter combat, sharing that with China, who is not an ally, is not a friend, is a bad idea.
00:02:09.620 But I will point out that it's been in the last few years that that relationship with China has gotten as tenuous and strained as it has.
00:02:20.220 That was not as long-standing a challenge.
00:02:23.500 I mean, certainly we needed to approach China with apprehension.
00:02:26.540 The Conservative government would have known full well about China's intelligence and influence operations in Canada on Canadian soil.
00:02:34.000 In fact, there was even a Conservative member of Parliament who was linked in some way with someone who was very likely a Chinese spy
00:02:43.260 whose cover identity in Canada was a reporter.
00:02:46.620 And this has been covered in the past.
00:02:48.340 So the whole point of this is that, yeah, the Conservatives should have known China wasn't our friend.
00:02:52.620 But it's only been in the recent few years that the Chinese relationship is one that particularly has become a very potent threat to Canada.
00:03:01.440 So when the military is saying, hey, we don't want to do this anymore, the Trudeau government should have been like, yep, fine with us, we're done.
00:03:07.700 Instead, the opposite happened.
00:03:10.020 So in these documents, these emails, which the government kind of accidentally handed over, which is interesting in and of itself.
00:03:17.520 They were trying to black things out, but ended up really just highlighting them because you could read the text through it.
00:03:22.860 And then they handed this over.
00:03:24.340 Some of them are classified as secret with the designation of being for Canadian eyes only.
00:03:29.360 But ultimately, if the Freedom of Information officers or Access Information officers don't know the difference between a redaction,
00:03:37.040 which they use very effectively in a lot of other cases, and just, you know, covering it up with a little bit of a black highlighter,
00:03:43.900 then there really is no question that getting these documents makes them fair game for reporting.
00:03:50.340 And in these documents, in these emails of people going back and forth about pausing the winter training exercise,
00:03:55.920 they reference Five Eyes' concerns about them.
00:03:59.200 Now, the Five Eyes Intelligence Sharing Alliance is a very important one.
00:04:03.220 So if other countries in this, including the United States and the United Kingdom, are saying,
00:04:09.000 you know what, we've got some concerns with our Chinese allies sharing information and training and military tactics with China,
00:04:15.860 I would side with the Five Eyes over China.
00:04:18.800 And at another point here, someone says,
00:04:22.080 our impression is that DND, Canadian Armed Forces' reluctance to engage with the People's Liberation Army,
00:04:28.780 is not solely related to Ms. Meng, that's Meng Wanzhou of Huawei's arrest,
00:04:34.040 and the consular cases referring to the Chinese imprisonment of Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor,
00:04:40.260 that there are other reasons behind their interest in disengaging.
00:04:43.680 From our perspective, it also perhaps to be related to a desire to be fully aligned with FEYS,
00:04:51.160 particularly the U.S., that's Five Eyes,
00:04:53.580 whose approach has shifted under the Trump administration.
00:04:56.560 So they talk about the need to have a position on China that mirrors that of larger countries
00:05:02.560 that also have skin in the game here,
00:05:04.640 which when you're a country that should be grateful to be at the table,
00:05:07.840 you don't want to be saying that,
00:05:09.360 hey, you know what, we think that China's okay,
00:05:11.120 even though they're doing all this stuff to you guys.
00:05:12.820 So that's a very important point here.
00:05:15.520 But the response from the Trudeau government, from the Civil Service,
00:05:19.500 but also we know taking direction from Chrystia Freeland,
00:05:22.820 who's now the Deputy Prime Minister,
00:05:24.880 was saying that, no, no, no, if we push too much,
00:05:27.660 and if we tell China we don't want to do it,
00:05:29.440 they'll think we're retaliating.
00:05:31.700 As per the briefing to the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs,
00:05:36.000 should Canada make significant reductions in its military engagement with China,
00:05:40.340 China will likely read this as a retaliatory move related to the Meng Wanzhou case.
00:05:45.500 This is not least because China has used reductions in military engagement with the U.S. in recent years
00:05:51.420 to signal its dissatisfaction with the U.S.-China trade relationship.
00:05:56.040 Such reductions have included reported cancelled visits by senior military personnel and cancelled port visits.
00:06:02.420 Earlier on in the same briefing, it talks about the importance of ensuring that we have a continued relationship
00:06:07.900 with China and not closing the door to future bilateral engagements, yada, yada, yada.
00:06:13.040 So even in saying this, even in saying that, you know what,
00:06:16.020 we think it's probably appropriate to push back against this,
00:06:19.920 they're saying that China is a friend.
00:06:23.260 They're saying that this country that might see this as retaliation for the things they're doing that are wrong,
00:06:28.740 well, you know what, we don't want to anger them too much.
00:06:32.580 So why on earth is appeasing China the top priority?
00:06:37.200 Why on earth is, remember, Justin Trudeau's government's whole MO is about, quote-unquote,
00:06:41.240 listen to the experts.
00:06:42.440 So when the experts in the Canadian Armed Forces are saying,
00:06:45.180 listen, we shouldn't do this winter training with them, we shouldn't do this,
00:06:48.800 you know what, why is that getting trumped by apparently the need to appease China,
00:06:53.340 to keep China happy, even when Australia has brought its issues to us,
00:06:57.720 the United States has brought its issues to us.
00:07:00.560 This is insane.
00:07:02.120 And a lot of people who don't really, I think, have respect for the work that the Canadian Armed Forces does
00:07:07.820 have been pointing out, oh, it's, you know, winter training, like, what are we, what are we going to do?
00:07:11.820 Are we just going to, like, you know, not tell them where to get Canada Goose codes?
00:07:15.440 The reality is the Canadian military excels.
00:07:19.220 I know a lot of people joke about the winter weather in Canada,
00:07:21.820 but as a result, the Canadian military excels at winter combat and winter scenarios.
00:07:27.160 So does the Russian military, for that matter, which is a lot closer of a country to China.
00:07:32.240 So why don't they just get tips and tricks from Russia?
00:07:34.660 Well, here's why.
00:07:36.400 I don't think China cares.
00:07:38.320 China is in the Northern Hemisphere.
00:07:40.480 China has access to places with cold weather.
00:07:43.860 China has access to a whole bunch of regions in Asia where they can do cold weather training on their own.
00:07:50.020 They don't want our help.
00:07:51.980 They don't need our help.
00:07:53.280 I'm convinced that China just wants to get into the building.
00:07:58.300 China just wants the key into the building, and once they're here, they can go around and do what they want.
00:08:02.600 And by having these relationships between People's Liberation Army soldiers and operatives and senior agents and Canadian military,
00:08:11.920 you're actually creating a pipeline by which the Chinese military can acquire intelligence.
00:08:18.400 And I wouldn't be surprised if they had spies masquerading as soldiers that just want some cold weather training,
00:08:24.160 because we know China sends spies in any number of situations.
00:08:27.860 Just look at that spy in the U.S., Fang Fang, that was involved in the Democrat former presidential candidate Eric Swalwell.
00:08:34.480 Chinese spies in Canada that have infiltrated numerous levels of government.
00:08:38.360 They've tried to compromise and in some cases have succeeded at compromising politicians, companies, and so on and so forth.
00:08:45.280 So this is not just some benign relationship.
00:08:48.620 Like if Canada were offering some winter weather advice to, I don't know, the Liechtenstein Guard or something.
00:08:54.800 That is not what is happening here.
00:08:56.960 And if we keep viewing China in these terms of being our friend and our partner and our ally and all of these things,
00:09:03.400 well, knowing, knowing all the shenanigans that China is doing as well, sometimes directly to us or to Canadians,
00:09:11.600 we are just weak.
00:09:13.080 We are just pushovers.
00:09:14.660 And China knows this.
00:09:16.140 China sees us as an easy target, which is why other Five Eyes countries were saying,
00:09:21.020 oh, you know, Canada, I'm not sure you should be doing this.
00:09:23.400 China's clearly seeing us as an easy target because we are not resolute enough to say no
00:09:28.800 and to put our feet down without the government equivocating and going back and forth
00:09:33.020 and talking about our friend and ally in China.
00:09:36.180 And this is not something that should be embraced at all.
00:09:40.260 And I want you to just see the weakness in the response to this from Deputy Prime Minister now,
00:09:46.280 Chrystia Freeland.
00:09:47.140 This is an exchange between Aaron O'Toole and Chrystia Freeland in question period.
00:09:50.820 Now, normally, I try to avoid playing, you know, several minutes of politician speaking,
00:09:55.300 but it's important that you hear exactly how brazen the non-answers are by Deputy Prime Minister Freeland.
00:10:04.220 Mr. Speaker, months after Canadian citizens were taken hostage by the communist regime in China,
00:10:09.700 we learned that the liberals fought hard to keep a close relationship with China.
00:10:14.200 In fact, the Deputy Prime Minister fought for Canada to train China's military on Canadian soil
00:10:22.020 against the direct advice of the Chief of Defence Staff.
00:10:26.240 With our citizens in jail, our exports banned,
00:10:29.740 and with China committing human rights abuses around the world,
00:10:33.340 why did the Deputy Prime Minister push hard to partner with them?
00:10:37.920 Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
00:10:39.780 Mr. Speaker, today marks two years since Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor were arbitrarily detained in China.
00:10:49.180 These years have been stolen from Mr. Kovrig and Mr. Spavor,
00:10:53.080 from their families and loved ones.
00:10:55.520 I know that all Canadians admire the integrity and strength of character these two men have shown,
00:11:02.140 and I would also like to pay tribute to their families.
00:11:04.580 The release of these two brave Canadians is an absolute priority for our government.
00:11:12.340 Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
00:11:13.980 Leader of the Opposition.
00:11:15.560 Mr. Speaker, I agree with the Deputy Prime Minister.
00:11:18.220 All Canadians are worried about the fate of Mr. Kovrig and Mr. Spavor.
00:11:23.440 Those two years were stolen.
00:11:25.720 So my question for the Deputy Prime Minister,
00:11:27.720 while they were stealing the lives of our citizens,
00:11:31.080 why was she trying to push the Canadian Armed Forces
00:11:34.100 to train the Chinese military on our soil?
00:11:38.540 When they're abusing our citizens, our rights, international law,
00:11:42.760 why was this government trying to partner with them?
00:11:46.220 Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
00:11:49.880 Mr. Speaker,
00:11:50.920 I have long personal experience reporting on authoritarian communist regimes,
00:11:56.600 and I am very aware of the threats they pose.
00:12:00.160 When it comes to China,
00:12:01.940 Canada is appalled by the treatment of the Uyghurs.
00:12:05.480 We stand with the people of Hong Kong,
00:12:07.720 especially the Canadian citizens there,
00:12:10.060 and the release of Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig
00:12:13.960 is an absolute priority for our government.
00:12:16.780 Leader of the Opposition.
00:12:18.760 Mr. Speaker,
00:12:19.420 the Minister's actions never match those fine words.
00:12:24.380 That's the problem with this government.
00:12:26.600 The Liberals ignored security and scientific experts
00:12:29.180 on the CanSino vaccine deal.
00:12:31.800 They ignore our allies on Huawei.
00:12:34.260 And now we learn
00:12:35.620 they were ignoring the Chief of Defence Staff
00:12:38.440 when it came to military exercises with China.
00:12:42.000 Defence officials clearly said
00:12:44.000 there was risks of knowledge transfer by working with China.
00:12:47.880 Why does the Deputy Prime Minister think
00:12:50.420 that she knows better than the military
00:12:52.720 about how to maintain our military secrets?
00:12:55.220 The Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
00:13:00.300 Mr. Speaker,
00:13:01.720 I'd like to talk a little bit about CanSino and vaccines
00:13:06.180 because that's where the Leader of the Opposition began his questions.
00:13:09.640 And let me just say,
00:13:11.820 I understand why the Leader of the Official Opposition
00:13:15.240 is worked up about vaccines.
00:13:17.820 And that's because he and his party spent weeks
00:13:21.240 trying to scare Canadians into believing we were at the back of the line.
00:13:25.620 Instead,
00:13:27.660 Canada has the most robust vaccine portfolio in the world.
00:13:31.580 Vaccines arrive next week
00:13:33.780 and the Pfizer vaccine has been approved.
00:13:37.420 The Leader of the Official Opposition would do better
00:13:40.200 to confront the anti-vaccine.
00:13:42.520 Lan Lab.
00:13:43.720 The Honourable Leader of the Opposition.
00:13:45.960 As the Canadian forces and our allies
00:13:49.060 were warning about the protection of military secrets,
00:13:52.880 documents reveal that this government
00:13:54.960 were more worried about upsetting the Communist regime in Beijing.
00:13:59.920 Every time we ask about China,
00:14:02.560 they say that national security is a priority
00:14:05.300 or, as the Deputy Prime Minister just demonstrated,
00:14:08.580 they do not answer the question.
00:14:11.080 So my question is simple, Mr. Speaker.
00:14:13.260 Why did her department
00:14:14.840 try to overrule the Canadian Armed Forces
00:14:17.780 and force them to train the Chinese military
00:14:21.460 on Canadian soil
00:14:23.160 while our citizens were being imprisoned?
00:14:25.860 The Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
00:14:28.600 The Honourable Deputy Prime Minister.
00:14:32.560 Mr. Speaker, let me be very clear
00:14:36.820 about our government's priority
00:14:39.080 since the moment that Michael Spavor
00:14:41.920 and Michael Kovrig were detained.
00:14:44.920 Our clear priority then and now
00:14:48.820 is to secure the release
00:14:51.760 of these two brave Canadians.
00:14:55.300 We stand with them,
00:14:57.060 we stand with their families,
00:14:59.320 and we are going to continue working doggedly
00:15:01.600 until we secure their release.
00:15:04.040 So Erin O'Toole has very direct,
00:15:06.140 very specific questions.
00:15:07.400 Why are we opening up the gates of CFB Petawawa
00:15:10.480 for military officials from China?
00:15:13.560 And her answer,
00:15:14.820 well, you know,
00:15:15.980 we take the release of Michael Kovrig
00:15:18.500 and Michael Spavor,
00:15:19.620 and we want it,
00:15:20.680 and I'm like,
00:15:21.660 okay, hang on.
00:15:22.380 Yeah, everyone agrees with that.
00:15:24.160 Everyone agrees with that.
00:15:25.500 Why is that the go-to?
00:15:27.020 She doesn't address the substance of it at all.
00:15:28.920 And I know people like to joke about,
00:15:30.700 oh, politicians never answer the question,
00:15:32.460 but she didn't even come within,
00:15:34.940 you know,
00:15:35.260 three city blocks of the question.
00:15:37.640 The question was in a different hemisphere
00:15:39.280 than what the answer was.
00:15:41.780 And this is something that,
00:15:43.140 again,
00:15:43.320 as Canadians,
00:15:43.900 I'm thinking,
00:15:44.560 you know,
00:15:44.800 there's a pretty realistic problem here
00:15:47.460 that's not being addressed.
00:15:48.980 Remember when the Liberals
00:15:50.220 were terrified
00:15:51.300 about Canadian soldiers
00:15:53.420 being deployed
00:15:54.460 in Canadian cities
00:15:56.480 and on Canadian streets
00:15:57.780 to assist with things
00:15:59.160 back in 2006?
00:16:00.360 Remember how the Liberals
00:16:01.420 turned an attack ad
00:16:02.660 about soldiers
00:16:03.920 in our streets?
00:16:08.920 Stephen Harper
00:16:10.160 actually announced
00:16:11.300 he wants to increase
00:16:13.380 military presence
00:16:14.260 in our cities.
00:16:16.500 Canadian cities.
00:16:19.200 Soldiers with guns.
00:16:22.160 In our cities.
00:16:24.460 In Canada.
00:16:28.500 We did not make this up.
00:16:33.040 Choose your Canada.
00:16:34.760 It's great.
00:16:35.520 Now we can actually repurpose it.
00:16:37.000 I'll see if I can find
00:16:37.680 that voiceover artist.
00:16:39.020 She was great.
00:16:39.760 Chinese soldiers
00:16:40.500 in our cities.
00:16:41.760 In Canada.
00:16:42.620 We did not make this up.
00:16:44.600 No,
00:16:44.980 we did not make this up.
00:16:46.840 The government
00:16:47.420 was plain as day
00:16:48.860 doing this
00:16:49.500 and we are
00:16:50.760 the big suckers
00:16:51.760 for not understanding
00:16:53.600 what China
00:16:54.240 is up to.
00:16:56.040 Yeah,
00:16:56.480 soldiers in our streets.
00:16:57.620 We didn't make it up indeed.
00:16:59.060 And you know what?
00:16:59.720 The media's role
00:17:00.860 in this
00:17:01.260 has actually been
00:17:02.180 quite insidious
00:17:03.940 and I'll say
00:17:04.840 not surprising
00:17:05.840 because the rebel
00:17:06.740 broke this story.
00:17:07.680 Rebel did a great job.
00:17:09.260 You know,
00:17:09.480 Ezra Levant
00:17:09.960 was very humble about it
00:17:11.060 when I sent him
00:17:11.860 a congratulatory note
00:17:13.060 the other day
00:17:13.540 by saying,
00:17:14.400 you know what?
00:17:14.800 They got lucky
00:17:15.400 with these documents
00:17:16.320 but even so
00:17:17.320 they saw them through.
00:17:18.240 They understood
00:17:18.740 what was there.
00:17:19.440 They understood
00:17:20.000 what they had.
00:17:22.200 They published
00:17:22.700 this story
00:17:23.280 moments later,
00:17:24.640 not even moments later,
00:17:25.680 a couple of hours later
00:17:26.600 the Globe and Mail
00:17:27.280 publishes a nearly
00:17:28.140 identical story
00:17:29.320 based on the same documents
00:17:31.140 without any reference
00:17:32.540 at all to Rebel,
00:17:33.300 without any acknowledgement
00:17:34.360 of Rebel's scoop on this.
00:17:36.080 And then what happens
00:17:36.980 a few media outlets
00:17:38.220 pick it up.
00:17:38.860 It did not go widespread
00:17:40.080 in the way that it should
00:17:41.180 but of the few
00:17:42.460 mainstream media outlets
00:17:43.740 that picked it up
00:17:44.440 they did not at all
00:17:46.260 credit the original
00:17:47.520 source of the story.
00:17:48.600 They didn't credit
00:17:49.100 Rebel for it.
00:17:50.280 And there was one
00:17:51.040 particular piece
00:17:52.220 in CBC
00:17:52.880 that talked about
00:17:54.380 the volcanic
00:17:55.260 online political eruption
00:17:56.860 which followed
00:17:57.620 quote,
00:17:58.400 stories in the Globe and Mail
00:17:59.980 and other media outlets
00:18:02.260 unquote.
00:18:03.260 So this is what happens
00:18:04.520 and again,
00:18:05.100 I know some people
00:18:05.760 don't like Rebel,
00:18:06.640 some people don't like
00:18:07.360 Globe and Mail,
00:18:08.020 some people don't like us.
00:18:08.980 That's fine.
00:18:09.540 People can decide
00:18:10.320 for themselves
00:18:11.240 what media outlets
00:18:12.100 they like or dislike,
00:18:13.540 respect or don't respect.
00:18:15.120 But it used to be
00:18:16.000 that even your competitor,
00:18:17.280 even someone you don't like,
00:18:18.380 if they get a scoop
00:18:19.680 you give them the credit
00:18:21.040 for it if you're going
00:18:22.160 to report on it.
00:18:24.040 And now you have
00:18:24.920 this erasure of it.
00:18:26.400 I saw a lot of people
00:18:27.320 online that were almost
00:18:28.700 mocking the story
00:18:29.700 at first because it was
00:18:31.060 Rebel that broke it
00:18:32.040 and then these same people
00:18:33.100 when the Globe and Mail
00:18:34.260 picks it up are like,
00:18:35.160 okay, well I guess
00:18:35.720 we'll just share
00:18:36.340 the Globe and Mail
00:18:36.980 version now.
00:18:38.180 And this is, I think,
00:18:39.200 a great testament
00:18:40.080 to how independent media
00:18:41.700 has really become
00:18:43.200 equalized.
00:18:44.220 I mean, there's no
00:18:44.820 monopoly on information,
00:18:46.160 there's no monopoly
00:18:46.800 on scoops, anyone can
00:18:48.300 get a handle on these
00:18:49.240 things.
00:18:49.580 You have to just have
00:18:50.440 talent and you have
00:18:51.280 to know when you've
00:18:52.380 got something and you
00:18:53.180 have to know how to
00:18:53.980 carry it into the end
00:18:55.080 zone, which I believe
00:18:56.360 is a hockey reference
00:18:58.100 of some kind.
00:18:59.000 But the whole point
00:18:59.820 of this is that the
00:19:01.620 media has now tried
00:19:02.840 to basically not
00:19:04.760 cover this.
00:19:06.200 And that's why if you
00:19:07.180 look elsewhere there
00:19:07.940 isn't really much about
00:19:09.020 it because now they
00:19:10.620 don't want to have to
00:19:11.480 legitimize the source
00:19:12.900 of it.
00:19:13.220 So it's very convenient
00:19:14.780 that a major global
00:19:15.980 geopolitical story has
00:19:17.800 basically been blacked
00:19:20.060 out, except blacked
00:19:20.900 out a lot more
00:19:21.420 effectively than the
00:19:22.240 Department of National
00:19:23.040 Defense and the
00:19:23.740 Ministry of the
00:19:24.680 Department of Global
00:19:25.380 Affairs have been able
00:19:26.180 to black out supposedly
00:19:27.740 secret documents.
00:19:30.180 So I commend Ezra and
00:19:31.360 his team for doing this
00:19:32.340 and I say shame on the
00:19:33.540 people that aren't
00:19:34.040 covering this and I say
00:19:34.940 shame on the people in
00:19:36.840 Justin Trudeau's
00:19:37.680 government that think
00:19:38.680 cozying up with China's
00:19:40.200 People's Liberation
00:19:41.660 Army is much more
00:19:43.140 important than standing
00:19:44.140 up for the rule of law
00:19:45.580 and standing up for
00:19:46.960 Canadian interests.
00:19:49.220 You know, everyone has
00:19:50.220 said throughout the
00:19:51.200 entirety of Justin
00:19:52.360 Trudeau's response to
00:19:54.040 anything China, when
00:19:55.500 remember when Patty
00:19:57.120 Haidu, the health
00:19:58.320 minister, said that if
00:19:59.220 you criticize China's
00:20:00.500 coronavirus numbers,
00:20:02.000 you're, quote, feeding
00:20:02.740 conspiracy theories.
00:20:04.000 The appeasement
00:20:05.060 mentality of China,
00:20:06.740 people have defended by
00:20:07.900 saying, oh, you know,
00:20:08.660 Justin Trudeau's playing
00:20:09.560 3D chess, you know,
00:20:10.540 he's just trying to,
00:20:11.920 you know, get the two
00:20:12.900 Michaels released and
00:20:13.860 all of that.
00:20:14.500 Well, if he were playing
00:20:15.900 some elaborate strategic
00:20:17.340 game, he would have
00:20:18.580 something to show for it,
00:20:20.620 which he does not.
00:20:22.980 Canada has nothing to
00:20:24.040 show for it.
00:20:24.920 So our not rocking the
00:20:26.560 boat approach has
00:20:27.320 actually done nothing
00:20:28.420 whatsoever because China
00:20:30.160 is aware of that.
00:20:31.520 China doesn't owe us
00:20:33.100 anything.
00:20:34.140 And China knows it
00:20:35.440 doesn't owe us anything.
00:20:37.240 So let's dispense with
00:20:38.820 this notion that by being
00:20:40.620 pushovers, by being the
00:20:42.640 appeasers in this
00:20:43.620 relationship, we are
00:20:45.020 supposedly currying good
00:20:46.460 favor with China.
00:20:47.500 You don't respond to
00:20:48.840 someone abusing you and
00:20:50.800 abusing your citizens by
00:20:52.860 being nice to them.
00:20:55.180 And this must be
00:20:56.360 infuriating to the United
00:20:57.640 States.
00:20:58.020 And I know the United
00:20:58.640 States is going to be
00:20:59.400 having its own change in
00:21:00.940 government in a few short
00:21:02.200 weeks.
00:21:02.480 And that means there's
00:21:03.160 going to be a change in
00:21:04.960 the approach to China,
00:21:06.160 presumably.
00:21:07.020 But even then, I don't
00:21:08.000 think Joe Biden is going
00:21:09.400 to be as weak on China
00:21:10.600 as Justin Trudeau is.
00:21:12.740 If this is an important
00:21:14.000 relationship to the
00:21:15.160 Trudeau government, we
00:21:16.040 all know, you know, it's
00:21:16.820 he admires the basic
00:21:18.100 dictatorship that can just
00:21:19.240 get things done.
00:21:20.280 Well, by Trudeau's own
00:21:21.200 admission, why have they
00:21:22.020 not been able to just get
00:21:23.180 the release of the two
00:21:24.000 Michaels done if they are
00:21:25.020 our friend, if they are
00:21:26.000 our global partner?
00:21:28.180 So we may not have
00:21:29.180 Chinese soldiers in our
00:21:30.780 streets, in our cities,
00:21:32.020 but we still have a
00:21:33.780 liberal government that
00:21:35.260 was just as happy to have
00:21:36.760 that be the case, which
00:21:38.480 is almost the real
00:21:39.300 scandal of this.
00:21:40.980 We've got to wrap
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