Juno News - September 13, 2024


Are they actually eating cats and dogs？


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00:00:00.560 we won't have any confusion as to who's hosting the show today right because uh clearly i'm the
00:00:05.120 only one that decided to take this program seriously and put on a jacket usually that
00:00:10.560 usually i can trust isaac to do that but uh with noah it's usually we we know what we're
00:00:14.960 gonna get with noah yeah you know it's a t-shirt in the chain baby casual dress
00:00:21.600 i know but uh no suit no mustache you know what happened yeah i don't know i'll be honest i got
00:00:29.120 these uh this new lighting setup uh for my setup here and then i was looking at the mustache in my
00:00:34.640 my recording software and i was like oh my god that's how it looks because the lighting really
00:00:38.720 brings out your qualities right and i was like it looks terrible it needs to go so i tried to trim it
00:00:43.120 and i was like this isn't working it's just gotta go so uh yeah i shaved it and then still really not
00:00:48.800 sure how i feel about that as for the me not wearing a suit yeah i don't know i feel like i need to going
00:00:55.440 forward maybe just wear t-shirts you know it helps you feel more comfortable and whatnot so
00:01:00.560 yeah no i was like you look youthful you know i imagine when you walk around the streets of calgary
00:01:05.440 you're gonna get some uh some some uh attract adoring looks or whatever you're gonna all right
00:01:11.040 all right noah save it get a bedroom you two get a room oh relax i didn't say for me but all right well
00:01:17.920 with that let's get this thing started all right let's get this thing started so the big news this
00:01:29.760 week well actually before i get into that you have to give me you have to cut me some slack i don't
00:01:34.160 always host this program and i was about to just start the program without introducing my guests here
00:01:39.360 we've got noah jarvis a journalist toronto-based writer with us at true north and we've got isaac
00:01:45.920 lamereau who's also a writer i believe we're calling him the alberta correspondent at true north
00:01:50.880 but also he is starting alberta roundup on his own this saturday isaac so well congratulations
00:01:58.560 with that we wish you all the best and like you were saying in the intro i felt as though the mustache
00:02:03.760 could have been a signature part of the show but uh i guess we'll just have to wait for that to come
00:02:08.640 back naturally now let's really get into the program of the show today so we've got the the biggest news i
00:02:15.040 think around the world really is the u.s presidential debate between donald trump and kamala harris and i
00:02:22.000 think besides any of the policy besides any of the actual content of the debate the big thing that
00:02:27.600 stuck out was the well it wasn't even back and forth really it was donald trump saying that the
00:02:33.120 that the poor cats and dogs of springfield ohio a town not many people thought that we might be
00:02:38.800 talking about on this show the cats and dogs are being eaten by haitian migrants that is what he
00:02:44.560 said on the debate believe it or not if you haven't been following the news this may come as quite a
00:02:48.640 shock to you but we'll roll the tape so you get up to speed on what we're about to talk about
00:02:54.400 in springfield they're eating the dogs the people that came in they're eating the cats they're eating
00:03:01.840 they're eating the pets of the people that live there and this is what's happening in our country
00:03:08.720 and it's a shame so there you go in springfield they're eating the dogs and the cats where does
00:03:14.480 all this come from well let's just break down the news about this story a couple of days ago a social
00:03:21.680 media phenomenon blew up when people on social media were saying that a small rural town in ohio springfield
00:03:30.080 had an influx of haitian migrants and the haitian migrants were abducting and eating the cats this
00:03:36.000 came after a video surfaced of a woman who was being arrested for allegedly eating a cat now this
00:03:43.600 video it turned out to be this video was of an american woman not of a haitian migrant and then there
00:03:49.200 was a picture of somebody standing or holding a dead goose in their hands and walking with it turns out
00:03:56.960 that that was an old photo however it's not all just fake news necessarily we can't confirm this
00:04:03.840 story of course but the the town of springfield ohio this is a background here has since 2020
00:04:10.720 received close to 20 000 migrants in a town of only 60 000 so close to 30 percent of the rural towns
00:04:18.160 population has entered the entered the town since 2020. the residents of this town have been claiming
00:04:24.800 that the haitian migrants are driving recklessly causing a lot of social problems there are rumors
00:04:31.600 and allegations that pets have gone missing all right it's not just it's not just out of nowhere
00:04:36.480 to the point in which the governor of ohio mike dewine has sent several million dollars what is the exact
00:04:43.680 number uh it is two and a half million dollars for the city to help deal with the influx of haitian
00:04:48.960 migrants and lastly before i turn it over to you gents to talk about this the ohio attorney general
00:04:55.760 yesterday said that he is going to be launching an investigation into the haitian migrant disaster
00:05:01.760 in springfield amid the wild claims of these migrants abducting and eating pets so there is
00:05:08.880 some there's a little bit of smoke to this fire it appears maybe not enough to talk about it on a
00:05:13.600 presidential debate stage but what do you guys make of all that what do you make of this noah
00:05:17.680 well you know i think that you know it's not well not i think it's not confirmed that you know
00:05:25.200 these haitian migrants uh they are you know eating cats and dogs whatever and i'm very sympathetic to
00:05:30.080 the people of springfield who see that you know the population of their city has bloomed uh you know
00:05:36.320 without you know their consent in any way shape or form and it's not like they're bringing in a bunch
00:05:41.200 of you know american citizens they're bringing in a bunch of haitian uh migrants who you know are you
00:05:46.960 know they're fleeing a bad situation in their home country so i'm a bit sympathetic to their
00:05:51.600 plight there but at the same time springfield obviously does not have the capacity to absorb
00:05:56.720 that many uh people nor do the residents of springfield desire uh you know expanding their
00:06:01.920 population uh so significantly but you know when we you know are talking about you know illegal immigration
00:06:09.840 and the massive upsurge of uh people you know we have to make sure that we are our arguments are
00:06:16.160 coherent and they're based on truth it's not exactly confirmed whether or not you know these people were
00:06:22.000 eating cats or dogs there's one video that was going viral on social media that depicted a woman a
00:06:28.880 black woman uh basically who killed a cat and was you know allegedly eating the cat and the you know the
00:06:34.960 cops you know asked her to show her teeth and you know uh basically saw that she was eating the cat
00:06:39.840 but this was an american citizen this is a black woman who you know has been an american her entire
00:06:45.040 life her uh either her ties to america you know probably go back 200 to 400 years uh you know far
00:06:52.880 longer than you know a lot of uh americans so i think that you have to you know really ensure that
00:06:58.000 you know you are articulating stuff that is true when you want to advance uh the anti-mass
00:07:03.600 migration argument because you know if you don't your critics are just going to pounce on that and
00:07:09.200 you're not going to actually do a good job in advancing uh your cause forward in the public
00:07:14.320 discourse and you know we're just talking about a presidential debate i mean it was a bit weird that
00:07:19.200 you know trump brought that up and didn't bring up the case of say like lakin riley who was uh murdered
00:07:24.800 by an illegal immigrant that was released into the interior of the united states and it is a very
00:07:29.840 sympathetic story so sympathetic that the congress uh you know that is bitterly divided amongst democrats
00:07:35.840 and republicans were able to pass legislation uh to basically stop um you know or to require the
00:07:42.800 federal government to detain uh migrants who commit burglary or theft so i i think that you know we have
00:07:48.960 to be very careful when we're talking about uh you know the facts of a certain story and not you know
00:07:54.560 misinterpreting them i think you know we have to take the concerns of springfield residents uh seriously
00:08:00.240 but also you know we can't you know spread things that you know even if it isn't confirmed to be true
00:08:05.840 uh you know it's a maybe situation we still have to articulate that you know this might not be true
00:08:11.520 but nonetheless there are other valid concerns that residents of springfield do have isaac what do you
00:08:18.560 make of this story yeah and you kind of alluded to this uh a bit harrison when you talked about
00:08:24.480 smoke and fire it made me think while the fact checkers are saying that this was an american citizen
00:08:30.320 not a haitian immigrant usually when there is this much smoke there is fire so that's not to say that
00:08:36.320 there haven't been problems with cats and dogs in springfield but something i also wanted to mention
00:08:41.680 was i i found uh kamala's reaction to trump mentioning this in the debate quite funny she
00:08:50.000 just seemed so surprised and i don't think that's because she hadn't heard the news or hadn't seen the
00:08:53.680 videos but probably that she was surprised that he was bringing this up in the presidential debate
00:08:59.840 because i'm sure she had prepared for other things maybe not this talking point so that's pretty funny
00:09:06.400 and then just quickly speaking on the immigration i mean 30 of your population is uh uh beyond an
00:09:13.920 uncontrollable level of immigration we've seen the problems that have arose in canada of course this
00:09:20.080 is a whole country not just a town but in canada where we're accepting about five to ten percent max
00:09:24.320 of our population so i can't imagine how any town which already has limited social services could
00:09:31.120 absorb a 30 population increase of course there's going to be numerous problems right and one thing
00:09:38.400 that i don't think gets a lot of conversation or a lot of play with this is that it's almost
00:09:43.120 unreasonable to expect a group of of migrants that make up so many some such a large proportion of your
00:09:50.000 population to assimilate if they all come in at the same time so quickly it's not even human nature so
00:09:55.200 the concept the idea of bringing people in at that rate doesn't make any sense because of course
00:10:00.960 they're just not going to be able to assimilate now i want to show you and i want to show the
00:10:05.120 audience some of some of just how this story has been evolving so again we have an ap fact check
00:10:11.440 on this story that's just like what the debate moderators were doing all night during the debate
00:10:16.320 against donald trump fact checking him while ap came in and produced this fact check on the uh on
00:10:22.640 the cats and dogs ohio story so you can see that there it's reuters excuse me not not ap um but
00:10:30.560 there have been memes that have been created over this and i want to show you two of them uh here
00:10:35.600 well actually there's a few of them so the gadston flag remake with a cat don't eat me that's a pretty
00:10:41.200 good one here what else do we have these are quite good remember when illegal aliens who ate cats was
00:10:46.320 fiction good times this is just unbelievable and here we got the uh we got a cute little pug with the same
00:10:52.800 sort of idea uh you know it's unbelievable because this situation is not just affecting springfield
00:10:59.920 ohio also think about or i think it's called aurora colorado the town of aurora colorado is having to
00:11:07.040 deal with entire apartment blocks being taken over by venezuelan gangs and that story as far as i can
00:11:13.200 tell has not been fact checked by reuters or ap which just goes to show you that this this situation
00:11:19.440 in the united states is out of control we already knew that it was but really it is it is really
00:11:24.880 getting out of control now we have the news happening in canada where the federal government
00:11:30.560 seems to be trying to do their own little springfield ohio operation in canada we now
00:11:35.840 know that the federal government is planning to relocate tens of thousands of migrants across
00:11:42.080 the country to relieve pressure on quebec and ontario i want to just give you the numbers here
00:11:47.120 and then i'm going to hand it over but for example new brunswick a town which has only actually had
00:11:53.360 i believe fewer than 400 asylum seekers in the province the federal government is now planning to
00:11:59.920 force new brunswick to accept 4 600 asylum seekers nova scotia to receive 4 900 asylum seekers
00:12:08.800 i mean this is unbelievable i'm worried actually guys that some rural new brunswick town may in
00:12:14.160 fact become the next springfield ohio isaac what do you think yeah well based on what you just said
00:12:20.000 i mean what are they 11 and a half times in the amount of asylum seekers that new brunswick's ever
00:12:25.520 taken in in one moment this is ridiculous so i was uh looking at whether any provinces had opposed
00:12:31.680 this of course this news just recently came out but already alberta premier danielle smith
00:12:37.520 uh released a statement saying we're we are not taking these asylum seekers essentially she said
00:12:42.800 we already only represent about 11 of canada's population but taken 22 of ukrainian evacuees
00:12:49.600 we can't take more our social services are at their max our our schools are at their max there's no
00:12:55.600 room for these people so she said quote we are informing the government of canada that until further
00:13:00.800 notice alberta is not open to having these additional asylum seekers settled in our province
00:13:06.160 and then a similar message out of bc this from john rustad he said quote justin trudeau and his
00:13:12.880 liberal government are dumping thousands of asylum seekers on bc without a plan or funding all while
00:13:19.040 our province grapples with an unprecedented housing crisis we are a welcoming province but trudeau's
00:13:24.960 failure to provide the necessary resources is a betrayal of both the newcomers and the communities
00:13:30.320 already struggling to make ends meet i like what rustad says there because uh as many of you will
00:13:36.240 remember some of the reporting we've done is that these immigrants or asylum seekers are coming to
00:13:41.120 canada expecting a better life and then getting here and realizing really this is this is the life
00:13:45.200 we're going into we're in a cost of living crisis a a homelessness crisis the list goes on a drug crisis
00:13:51.360 so we really want to have a welcoming and a place where these asylum seekers or immigrants can come to
00:13:58.000 and actually build a pr what's the word prosperous life not where they're just going from one bad to
00:14:07.520 another yeah what do you what do you think uh noah yeah i i mean i am a little sympathetic to the idea
00:14:14.880 that we do need to like if we are going to take in asylum seekers which we probably should uh we should
00:14:20.560 probably balance it out so that ontario and quebec are not you know taking in the lion's share or just
00:14:25.840 like all of the asylum seekers i mean i remember uh last uh last year it was two years ago uh when
00:14:31.120 we had a lot of haitian migrants uh in in downtown toronto who were basically just sleeping on the
00:14:36.080 streets uh and you know this was like a problem that was more or less you know reserved for toronto so
00:14:41.920 i'm sympathetic to the idea that we need to you know spread out uh the the people that come into
00:14:46.320 this country if we are going to accept in uh this many asylum seekers but there's there's a couple
00:14:50.640 problems firstly uh not every province has the same capacity to accept asylum seekers ontario and
00:14:56.880 quebec you know quite frankly are the provinces that are most equipped uh to accept asylum seekers
00:15:02.640 because they have the largest gdp out of the other other provinces a province like new brunswick is
00:15:07.120 definitely going not going to be able to provide the social services uh that is necessary and that
00:15:12.880 brings me to the second point where the federal government it wants to bring in all these asylum
00:15:16.560 seekers but they don't want to acknowledge the fact that it costs like a lot of money to support
00:15:22.080 people asylum seekers especially those who are not you know coming into a community uh that can you
00:15:27.920 know readily support them a lot of ukrainian refugees they had uh families in canada that could
00:15:33.600 help them that they could support them get them on their feet help them get their first job help
00:15:37.360 them get rent uh and you know they were able to integrate into the into the community that way
00:15:42.320 a lot of the time when you're just arbitrarily you know you know throwing people across the country
00:15:48.000 you know you're not really throwing them into communities that have the uh you know the private
00:15:53.120 means and the public means in order to accept them so you create these divisions in the community that's
00:15:58.960 part one of the reasons what's uh happening in springfield is that you know there's not i'm pretty
00:16:03.200 sure there wasn't a great uh you know a lot of uh haitians in um springfield before all those migrants
00:16:09.040 came in and you know it's the same thing uh around the country if you don't have those communities
00:16:12.880 that is able to support uh these migrants you know they're going to be entirely reliant on the
00:16:16.880 government and the federal government doesn't have the money or isn't providing the money to the
00:16:21.520 promises for them to be able to support these my asylum seekers nor do does the federal government
00:16:27.440 even have the money to give that out in the first place i mean we're in like such like you know
00:16:32.080 deep deficits uh as a as you know as the federal government so i don't know why they think that they
00:16:38.480 are you know financially equipped in order to you know handle you know hundreds of thousands of
00:16:42.960 asylum seekers on an annual basis it's you know just an absurd you know politics disconnected from
00:16:48.480 reality but you know that's to be expected from the federal government at this point yeah and you
00:16:52.640 know what my issue is with this entire program is that when we had when we saw scenes of those
00:16:59.520 african asylum seekers sleeping out on the streets in toronto last year yes they were out on the streets
00:17:05.840 around the homeless shelters one a because toronto's homeless shelters were entirely full
00:17:11.200 and in many cases the majority of the people inside of the homeless shelters are themselves
00:17:14.800 already asylum seekers the second thing is that after about two weeks of this problem growing and
00:17:20.640 growing because canada just continues to accept every asylum claim that comes to our country
00:17:26.000 the federal government and the provincial government and the city all of a sudden were able to cough up
00:17:30.480 hundreds of millions of dollars for these people and of course they found places to put them
00:17:35.520 they found new where new ways to house these asylum seekers all the while canadians across the
00:17:41.600 country are struggling on the streets are homeless are being left behind and subjected to addictions
00:17:49.040 you know my my understanding and my look at this situation is i live in downtown toronto toronto's full
00:17:55.760 toronto cannot have taken any more asylum seekers and nor can quebec i sympathize with the plight of
00:18:01.040 quebecers who feel like their province is being subjected to uncontrollable levels of mass
00:18:05.040 immigration and they're starting to lose their culture i genuinely do sympathize with that but
00:18:09.680 that doesn't mean that the solution is just to start sending them thousands of them to new brunswick
00:18:14.320 and nova scotia i think in reality at some point we need to have a conversation that we maybe just
00:18:20.160 shouldn't be accepting so many asylum seekers in the first place some of these asylum claims are not
00:18:25.600 really serious we've seen a spike of asylum claims from india a country that i don't believe is a
00:18:30.960 country that people should be fleeing and claiming asylum from same goes for a bunch of other countries
00:18:35.520 but uh why don't you guys pick up on on where i left off there before we move on to the next story
00:18:40.480 noah why don't you pick up on on that because you mentioned that you believe that we should be taking
00:18:44.320 in more asylum seekers and um i think maybe not more but just generally that we should and i think
00:18:50.320 at this point we should stop taking in as many as we are um you know i think it depends on the case
00:18:57.280 right like you know if you have asylum seekers coming in from india generally that's not you
00:19:01.360 know like a war-torn country nor is it like you know in destitute poverty you know there's still
00:19:06.960 it's quite a poor nation relatively speaking uh especially compared to canada but that doesn't
00:19:11.600 necessarily mean we should bring in asylum seekers from india nor should we be in asylum seekers from
00:19:16.320 the united states that's the most prosperous country uh in the world but you know for someone who is say
00:19:22.000 uh you know fleeing uh fleeing war or fleeing you know uh political persecution yeah i think you
00:19:28.000 know there is some sort of moral obligation you know to bring those people in to you know offer
00:19:33.040 that refuge i think you know you know not to you know bring religion into us but i think that's you
00:19:37.200 know that's the christian thing to do you know to help those who are you know you know absolutely
00:19:41.360 destitute and you know just you know the downtrodden and people who could you know who want to flee
00:19:46.960 you know their country to become canadians but that doesn't mean we are capable of you know
00:19:51.680 helping out all of the asylum seekers of the world we we just aren't you know canada is a small
00:19:56.160 country you know the united states is a far more uh equipped to deal with this problem because they
00:20:01.360 have you know a lot more people and you know therefore they have you know a lot more money to
00:20:05.840 work with yet you know they are bringing in per capita less you know asylum seekers and they're still
00:20:10.640 dealing uh with a problem and you know that doesn't count the immigration uh crisis on their southern
00:20:16.160 border but my point is that you know we should bring in the people who need asylum you know or
00:20:21.520 who are in desperate need uh and you know that doesn't necessarily have to compromise you know
00:20:26.720 the well-being uh of canadians but the problem is we're bringing way too many asylum seekers on you know
00:20:32.000 poor claims uh you know that they need asylum uh and thus you know we should be cutting back on those
00:20:37.120 people and you know i think i think the asylum system was broken before in the sense that uh ontario
00:20:45.120 and quebec were dealing with you know the the problem almost in its entirety not in its entirety
00:20:50.800 absolutely but uh they were dealing with the majority of the problem so the federal government
00:20:54.880 failed in and spreading out the you know the sort of um the people that were coming into this country
00:21:00.000 beforehand and now that they're doing it uh in a time in which the amount of people that were
00:21:04.800 bringing in is so high it's just irresponsible so you know that's generally my take you know we should
00:21:10.560 bring in some but not nearly as much as we're bringing in now you know i wish there was a better
00:21:15.360 segue i i didn't i didn't prepare one for this but we're going to move on to a completely different
00:21:20.160 story isaac why don't you take it away so this is actually pretty interesting news come hockey news
00:21:26.960 in fact coming in summer or i suppose the end of summer that the edmonton oilers have recently announced
00:21:34.160 this on monday on x they announced that they have a new jersey partner and you can imagine how uh reactions
00:21:40.320 to that from fans and other canadians went when they realized that this jersey partner meant
00:21:46.400 advertisements for gambling on their jerseys and helmets um yeah so the initial post from the oilers
00:21:54.080 was a video and it didn't get ratioed too hard uh to use your popular term there harrison but the the
00:22:00.560 the following post that came about 20 minutes later which was uh accompanied by a press release from the
00:22:05.920 team and explicitly said we're going to have ads for gambling on our jersey and on our helmet got
00:22:11.360 ratioed uh completely i think like two to one and i i i scrolled through every single comment reading
00:22:16.800 them trying to find a positive one and i'll tell you that was a challenge uh most of what i found was
00:22:23.040 just complete outrage and and swears that i won't repeat on here but some people saying like trash disgusting
00:22:29.280 this is terrible i mean why are we promoting gambling the list goes on uh this reaction may have
00:22:34.880 been amplified because interestingly the oilers are one of the hockey teams to resist putting ads on
00:22:41.680 their jerseys back in the 2022-23 season which people rightfully gave them a lot of praise for
00:22:47.520 so i don't know what changed between then and now uh that they're putting not just ads on their jersey
00:22:53.600 but gambling ads uh so on the jerseys the playalberta.ca logo which uh last year it generated 235 million
00:23:02.880 dollars in net sales uh this was a 42 million dollar increase from the the previous year and and then
00:23:08.800 they contributed 1.5 billion dollars in total gaming revenue to alberta's general revenue fund so this is
00:23:15.280 a serious source of revenue and uh i did find an interesting study harrison which you i think
00:23:20.960 previously cited on on an episode of ratioed which was the ipsos poll from uh early january which was far
00:23:27.200 before the gambling ads and gambling in general has taken over not just hockey but all sports to be
00:23:33.280 honest i mean you can't watch a game without seeing 20 gambling ads but it even showed at this late in
00:23:39.760 january 2023 that almost half of canadians felt that gambling uh advertising was excessive and and needed
00:23:46.800 to be reduced now you can't even drive the street down the street walk down the street without seeing
00:23:51.120 a gambling ad in some form and uh on top of this just the last thing i'll close with was that
00:23:57.760 and this was disappointing to me you you guys can let me know how you feel but uh yeah conor mcdavid
00:24:02.480 uh obviously the oilers best player and i'd say the best player in the world right now
00:24:06.560 and great wayne gretzky who most would agree is the best hockey player of all time they had a gambling
00:24:12.320 ad together uh which i i've seen out almost every always game i've watched uh last season so yeah how do you
00:24:18.800 you guys feel about that no one you take this one yeah basically uh my take on gambling ads is uh that
00:24:26.640 generally i'm a libertarian you know i think that the market should do what it wants and you know
00:24:30.320 you know that that's how we should govern our economy with that said you know there are there
00:24:34.240 is a place for regulation and you know i'm not like uh like um like a complete libertarian in the
00:24:40.160 sense that you know the market just do what it's want and i do think there's a place for the
00:24:43.920 regulation of uh gambling ads and you know when you have um sports entities that are you know
00:24:50.880 immensely popular not just with adults but with children that are you know in its commercials
00:24:55.360 you know promoting gambling to the youth i mean you know that is exploitive you know there's a reason
00:25:00.640 why you know on say like teletune or you know like cartoon network or whatever we limit what sort of
00:25:06.080 ads you know those types of channels are allowed to play because you know that is programming uh for
00:25:10.960 children and you know similarly for sports you know that i've been watching sports since i was four
00:25:14.720 years old you know if i had been exposed to you know incessant gambling propaganda you know not just
00:25:21.200 in the commercials but you know uh you know on the in the advertisements in the stadium and then you
00:25:26.720 know they put the advertisement on the ice or on the court you know for me basketball or yeah and
00:25:31.280 they're going to start putting the gambling ads on the jerseys i mean when you buy a jersey
00:25:34.960 you know you might even have the you know the gambling sponsor on the jersey you know i i think that
00:25:39.840 that you know that has an immense psychological effect uh on people especially uh younger people
00:25:45.360 who are you know grow up you know they're 12 13s like oh i can't wait to gamble you know like you
00:25:49.760 shouldn't be anticipating uh to gamble and you shouldn't be promoting this uh to children you know
00:25:54.800 this should be cornered off you know it's it's sort of like alcohol or you know going to a casino
00:26:00.400 it's it's cornered off you go somewhere to gamble or you know you go on your app where you have
00:26:04.400 you know your age limits or whatever but to be promoting it uh on sports events just so uh
00:26:09.680 brazenly uh you know you have you know major stars you know before the podcast you're talking about
00:26:14.480 how um conor mcdavid i think and wayne gretzky they did a gambling ad together i mean like you know
00:26:20.720 it's a bit foreign to me in basketball it's like if lebron james and like you know michael jordan did
00:26:25.200 an ad together promoting gambling that'd be like you know it'd be very memeable and it'd be like kind
00:26:30.560 of impressive but also to be kind of like wow this is what makes them come together not you know
00:26:35.360 love of the sport love of the game you know or like you know a like a bit of a nicer sponsor like
00:26:40.720 gatorade i don't know like it's gambling it seems a bit icky so no i've got bad news for you because
00:26:46.160 lebron james is a partner at draft kings a sports book and has been doing gambling ads like all of
00:26:52.160 these guys are doing gambling ads and i find that this is really where the libertarian argument falls
00:26:58.400 apart in my opinion because we are we have basically allowed this industry to dominate
00:27:05.760 sports to take over not just sports but also every other aspect of people's lives and on a
00:27:11.680 mental health aspect this is a disaster in my opinion promoting gambling enticing addiction
00:27:17.760 for the state to make money for the province to make money and that's really what this is right
00:27:22.640 you know doug ford came to power on a promise to legalize sports gambling in ontario
00:27:28.000 i think many other provincial governments have done the same and the federal government is
00:27:31.440 getting in on the mix and there's nothing conservative about this in my opinion there
00:27:35.360 really isn't and you've basically allowed hockey and the and and the kind of culture around hockey
00:27:42.720 that was so deeply ingrained into canadian culture to be corrupted by this it dominated
00:27:48.960 hockey night in canada an institution in our country they've taken one of our national heroes
00:27:53.840 forget hockey but just in general one of our national icons wayne gretzky and made him a
00:27:58.960 shill for an american gambling company they've taken great television shows and television series like
00:28:04.400 trailer park boys for example they turn those guys into gambling advertisements as well so we're kind
00:28:09.760 of gonna i think we are going to end up in this place where you know ontario and the rest of the
00:28:14.960 country is going to end up like those like those towns in the uk where on the uk high streets you have a
00:28:21.760 vape shop followed by a a bookie and then you know there's maybe a booze shop and it's just those
00:28:26.800 three shops one after the other after the other we won't have the shops because it'll all be online
00:28:31.760 but that's kind of the attitude we're promoting here and so to see the oilers crumble on this to
00:28:37.840 to crumble to the idea of even placing an advertisement on your jersey which i find to be
00:28:42.080 awful in the first place but to make it a gambling ad um is hardly surprising unfortunately but
00:28:48.000 it is it is deeply disappointing isaac i'll give you the final word on this since you brought it up
00:28:51.920 and you're you're an oilers fan yeah i just wanted to clarify some things that the oilers said which
00:28:59.200 of course as i think i mentioned already this would only be on their home jerseys and home helmets
00:29:03.280 but also that as far as i understand if you just go to sport check say and buy a jersey this ad will not
00:29:09.200 be on it as far as i understand it's just on the jerseys that the oilers are playing with so it's not like
00:29:15.440 we're being subject to more gambling ads i mean they're already virtually on the ice and on the
00:29:19.120 boards and soon they'll be just replace the players with like casino chips on the on the boards and
00:29:25.680 i mean really it is it is a sad it is sad and then and then you know it it's everybody right
00:29:33.280 it's lebron james and connor mcdavid and austin matthews and all of the big guys you know it'll all
00:29:38.560 be the legends too but it's deeply disappointing uh but also you know let's see where it goes because
00:29:43.840 when i made that video isaac back in however however many months ago it was all the comments
00:29:49.440 were saying let the market be the market leave the free market be let this go just stop being
00:29:54.720 you know stop trying so hard to stop this let it just go so let's see what happens let's see what
00:29:58.480 the people have to say because i think the majority of people as that poll indicated think that this is
00:30:03.040 getting out of control noah why don't you take us away with the final story right so uh you know
00:30:09.440 recently if you've been following canadian news you would know that uh jagmeet singh has dissolved
00:30:14.560 his you know confidence and supply agreement with uh justin trudeau you know the informal um union
00:30:21.440 between the two parties however uh jagmeet singh despite you know dissolving this agreement between
00:30:27.120 himself and trudeau he has not said whether or not he's actually going to commit to you know actually
00:30:31.680 opposing the government and opposing their legislation you know legislation that he says is you know
00:30:36.400 profiting big corporations and taking from the little man and you know all the galen weston and
00:30:41.760 this is you know raking in billions you know because uh he's exploiting the canadian people in some
00:30:46.240 way shape or form by raising grocery prices and then in an inflationary environment like okay big deal
00:30:52.160 but you know jagmeet singh instead of you know voting in no confidence in the government that he
00:30:56.960 you know from his rhetoric he would assume that he has no confidence in the government instead of doing
00:31:00.960 that instead of doing the honest and you know uh moral thing if you know you truly believe
00:31:06.160 that this guy is selling our country down the river he is going to you know vote on a case-by-case
00:31:11.280 basis he says that he will not uh be calling uh on uh the government to uh fall instead yeah he is
00:31:19.280 going to you know uh support the liberals in a more covert and uh you know discreet way when uh peer
00:31:25.440 poliev uh pressed jagmeet singh on this issue uh jagmeet singh in his righteous indignation you know said
00:31:32.800 that i will not take any advice from the leader of the conservative party the guy who is you know
00:31:37.840 basically an evil guy who wants to you know take your money and you know uh you know give it to the
00:31:43.040 big businesses and whatever rhetoric the ndp uh uses nowadays uh but so yeah i think a lot of canadians
00:31:49.680 see this as a very weak move you know he declares the government to be basically evil incarnate and then
00:31:55.600 you know he's voting with the devil uh what do you guys have the clips of those we have those clips don't
00:32:00.240 we we have the clip of calling on jagmeet singh to a vote in a vote in a non-confidence uh vote
00:32:09.040 against the trudeau liberals now we have jagmeet singh responds let's play those clips back to back
00:32:13.280 so the audience can see this uh the new fight between pauliev and singh so i have an announcement
00:32:19.680 and a challenge i'm announcing that common sense conservatives will put forward a non-confidence
00:32:26.800 motion at the earliest possible opportunity and i'm asking jagmeet singh and the ndp to commit
00:32:36.000 unequivocally before monday's by elections will they vote non-confidence to bring down the costly
00:32:44.320 coalition i'm not going to listen to you someone who wants to destroy your health care system who
00:32:49.440 wants to hurt seniors by cutting their pensions someone who wants to attack workers someone who wants
00:32:54.640 to strip away dental care from seniors what kind of person wants to strip away dental care when
00:33:01.280 seniors have just gotten it when kids are receiving it who wants to take that away from them i'm never
00:33:06.320 going to listen to someone like that so no i'm not going to listen to your advice you want to destroy
00:33:10.240 people's lives i want to build up a brighter future lots of drama in canadian politics they really know how
00:33:15.040 to turn up the uh turn up the emotion um isaac what do you what have you made of of this this new
00:33:20.960 development in canadian politics yeah there's so many different things i want to share because this
00:33:26.320 is such a deep topic if you really look into it but uh just starting off i mean uh of course pierre
00:33:34.320 polievre has gone as far as as issuing a statement essentially saying that this is a political stunt
00:33:39.120 because we know singh won't actually do anything and just getting into the parliamentary aspect of it so to
00:33:45.920 have a majority say in parliament you need 170 seats out of 338 and the liberals have 154 seats
00:33:53.760 while the ndp of 24 seats which would give them 170 if they vote together the bloc quebecois have 32
00:33:59.920 seats so as you may have seen if you've watched any of um polievre's recent press conferences he's he was
00:34:06.000 starting to shift the the the onus to the bloc quebecois saying well are you going to prop up the
00:34:10.880 liberals now because if the if the bloc votes with the liberals on anything they they don't need the ndp
00:34:16.560 they can become the new coalition even if jagmeet singh steps aside another interesting part is
00:34:24.400 look we've seen the polls uh the conservatives are are surely destined to win the next election if it
00:34:29.760 were to happen uh anytime soon and the liberals would be a second place party that means the ndp
00:34:34.880 would remain a third place party so for singh to turn against the liberals he'd essentially have to
00:34:39.440 determine i'm going to get more of a deal with the conservatives than i think i'm going to get from
00:34:44.640 the liberals which i don't know that he's come to that realization which may be why he's
00:34:51.040 not wanting to call an election do you guys think that that might be the case
00:34:55.440 well i i think you know yeah i think that despite you know jamie singh's regular rhetoric he does not
00:35:01.600 want to call an election you know if you look at the donation records from these parties you know
00:35:05.760 the ndp they are not doing well you know when it comes to being able to collect donations uh the ndp is a
00:35:11.360 ndp is a party that is chronically in debt pretty much after every election you know they have they're
00:35:16.080 basically in debt and they're still working uh through that and ultimately the polls are not
00:35:21.920 showing that the ndp has been uh gaining from their decision to pull out in the confidence of the
00:35:27.360 supply agreement i think uh singh's gamble was that he's going to you know pull the confidence of
00:35:32.560 supply agreement he's going to you know articulate himself more as an opposition leader than rather
00:35:38.080 you know just uh another sort of like liberal ndp sort of mp uh and then you know that is going to
00:35:44.160 sort of his opposition to trudeau is going to help you know bring support uh behind his party but it
00:35:49.760 seems like that is not happening even some polls are showing that the ndp are down so maybe even the
00:35:54.720 opposite uh is happening so you know singh is not benefiting from uh this uh from pulling out of the
00:36:00.640 agreement that is if he's seeing no benefit in the polls he's not gonna pull the trigger uh on an
00:36:05.760 election so you know i i think that this is all like a cynical game uh for seeing you know you
00:36:11.840 don't you can't really listen to the rhetoric you just have to you know watch how the man behaves
00:36:16.880 and you know from watching observing how he behaves he's all talk no action and uh clearly he's not going
00:36:23.920 to bring the bring down the government and this looks like uh the conservatives will have a harder
00:36:28.400 time bringing down the government uh because the bloc is going to try and extract as many concessions
00:36:34.240 from the liberals as humanly possible and peer polio he's welcoming this all you know he wants
00:36:38.800 you know the uh the next election to be like one of like some of the napoleonic wars you know all the
00:36:43.920 the liberals the british you know the ndp the austrians and you know uh maybe the bloc the holy roman
00:36:50.400 empire and he just wants to take all takers you know and he's really going to embrace that and you
00:36:54.960 know let's see uh if he's going to be able to you know wage a election campaign in which the bloc
00:37:00.400 the liberals and the ndp are you know in his crosshairs well it's unfortunate let's hope that
00:37:06.080 doesn't happen because it didn't end so well for napoleon at the end of the day however it seems
00:37:11.520 like with jagmeet singh my read on it is that he wants to have his cake and eat it too right he wants
00:37:15.680 to be able to show people and show canadians that he's no longer supporting the liberals but he also is
00:37:22.240 not going to do anything to bring them down at the same time and i don't even know if it's going to
00:37:26.160 have much impact on these by-elections i think he just wants to as you said noah show himself to be
00:37:32.560 something of an uh something of an opposition figure while not actually doing anything to
00:37:37.680 bring down the government because it's almost all but certain pauliev will win um the way i see it too
00:37:42.960 is i mentioned this on monday that it would be deeply symbolic of justin trudeau's time as prime
00:37:49.120 minister that his final real decision his final act as prime minister is to is to form an agreement
00:37:56.560 whether it even be an official agreement or a loose agreement with the bloc with a with a with
00:38:01.360 a party that does not like canada and their institutions and wants to see our institutions
00:38:08.000 dissolve and wants to pull their own province out of the country it would be so symbolic for him to
00:38:13.760 pair up with a group of people who deeply dislike this country and its institutions i find that because
00:38:20.480 they're the only people left to to keep justin trudeau in power at least publicly uh that that
00:38:27.200 says a lot about where the liberals are right now that says a lot about where this government is
00:38:31.120 that's just my read on it what do you guys think isaac yeah well uh uh you know politics is just a
00:38:37.680 cynical game for justin trudeau uh isaac sorry did you want to go it was like no no you're good you're
00:38:43.280 good you're good you're good okay cool uh but yeah yeah it's positive cynical game for trudeau i
00:38:49.200 mean he got into it because he has the right name recognition he's like hey you know this is a cushy
00:38:53.120 job you know i wield a lot of power you know it sort of uh appeals to a power hungry man uh like justin
00:38:59.680 trudeau uh you know when it comes to the agreement with the ndp that was also a cynical ploy just to
00:39:05.760 keep his government in uh for as long as possible uh you know his government is marked uh by just you
00:39:12.640 know making cynical decisions you know he in 2015 he campaigned on electoral reform what does he what
00:39:17.760 does he do you know kick uh kick the can down the road because you know his party benefits from uh
00:39:22.880 first past the post uh you know this is all just a cynical game uh to justin trudeau he doesn't really
00:39:28.720 take uh you know the issues that matter to canadians seriously he just tries to exploit them and you know
00:39:34.320 wedge people on issues uh for um you know partisan purposes so it's just continuation of the same uh
00:39:41.440 and that is what he will continue to do and if he has to rely on people that want to separate from
00:39:46.480 canada and break up this country that's not a big deal to him he believes in post-nationalism anyway
00:39:52.720 isaac as our as our i believe our only francophone at true north why don't you finish this off with
00:39:58.320 this story you get the last word yeah this is interesting harrison something you said reminded me of a
00:40:03.600 pretty uh extensive research study i did in university which was i went through um different
00:40:10.560 elections and i just essentially looked at the difference in debates between french and english
00:40:15.440 and during my literature review i actually read an entire study about how quebec sees justin trudeau
00:40:21.600 not as a quebecker but as an outsider so they don't like him so now that he would side with them
00:40:26.480 despite as you mentioned noah them being a separatist movement and going against all of canada's
00:40:31.680 institutions and then on top of everything quebec is not even really liking justin trudeau i just find
00:40:37.520 it kind of ironic that that that that will be the hill he chooses to die on uh if you will well that's
00:40:45.520 all the time we have we will wrap this up and to our audience just remember that everything you heard
00:40:50.960 was off the record
00:40:56.880 really disappointing because halfway through the show i realized i missed an excellent segue opportunity
00:41:02.480 from the gambling story to the jagmeet singh story to say that if you were a betting man
00:41:07.440 you wouldn't want to be putting any money on jagmeet singh's success
00:41:10.800 yes could have been good no i mean i i mean why would you bet on a guy who is a socialist who you
00:41:18.160 know wears rolexes and you know carries versace bags or it's almost like it's almost like you know
00:41:24.240 betting on the shortest guy in the basketball gym to you know dunk it's stupid um but yeah no isaac i
00:41:32.400 didn't know you were a francophone uh i guess i should have got from your name lamura is that how it's
00:41:37.520 uh pronounced yeah it is but i'm not a francophone uh i am french but my first language is english
00:41:42.240 because uh i'm like a 12th generation albertan so the french was lost long ago i learned it in
00:41:46.880 school and i mean it's a long story one thing i did want to mention though was um well i take that
00:41:52.080 back my apologies i thought you were a francophone the the pronunciation of i'm uh you could you had
00:41:56.880 me fooled there isaac i'm a pseudo francophone because i can speak perfectly fluent french so
00:42:01.840 uh but yeah no you should go back to come to premiere and you know fix that province right
00:42:06.800 up man yeah especially with their covet policy is terrible you know you you can fix quebec make
00:42:12.720 quebec great again okay yeah something interesting we didn't mention about singh was he's really
00:42:17.840 trying to turn it in the public eye that oh it's me against paulieff right now it's the liberals aren't
00:42:23.280 even in the race it's who do you want the ndp or the conservatives it's like no you're still
00:42:26.960 polling well in third place you're you're not really in the race at all and i don't think these
00:42:31.600 recent actions are going to help you uh become enter the race essentially yeah you know to me it
00:42:38.080 seems like a one horse race well let's let the audience enjoy their weekend it's friday afternoon
00:42:42.960 go ahead enjoy the weekend and thank you so much for watching