Juno News - Auto sector job losses： Where is the 'deal' Carney promised？

00:00:00.000 I am your host. Welcome, my friends. High-level trade talks between Canada and the United States

00:00:11.120 have resumed in Washington following more bad economic news for Canada's auto sector.

00:00:17.360 Stellantis says it is moving production of the Jeep Compass out of Brampton, Ontario to Illinois.

00:00:23.320 3,000 Canadian jobs are being affected. It's part of the company's $13 billion plan to boost production south of the border.

00:00:32.780 Ontario Premier Doug Ford is in Kenora. He said it's time to hit back against that, quote, tyrant Trump.

00:00:40.120 My number one job is make sure we protect the people of Ontario. 0.83

00:00:44.900 I need to protect the communities against that tyrant south of the border, which drives me absolutely nuts.

00:00:50.780 That guy, President Trump, he's a real piece of work. You know something?

00:00:54.760 What my message to the prime minister when I meet him on Thursday is if you can't get a deal, let's start hitting him back.

00:01:01.480 Let's start hitting the U.S. back hard.

00:01:04.080 Okay. Ford says he spoke with the president of Stellantis.

00:01:07.260 He says the company did not live up to its agreement with the people of Brampton as far as keeping that plant open.

00:01:14.600 But he still puts the blame at the feet of Donald Trump.

00:01:18.260 You know, it's disappointing. They said they're going to keep Brampton open.

00:01:21.740 I had a conversation with the president of Stellantis yesterday.

00:01:25.360 He said, well, we're going to postpone it for a year. We're going to find a new model.

00:01:29.740 He's given me his word. They're going to keep it open.

00:01:32.780 They're going to see what products they're going to put in there. 0.93

00:01:35.600 But again, his words, not mine, but it's everyone in the world.

00:01:39.020 He goes, there's uncertainty. Until we see a deal made between Canada and the U.S., the Kuzma deal, how do you figure any company can figure it out?

00:01:48.720 It's the uncertainty that President Trump has not just brought to Canada.

00:01:53.440 He's brought it to the entire world.

00:01:55.500 That plant in Brampton has been idle since 2023. At that time, the company said it was going to retool for the Jeep Compass.

00:02:03.720 The provincial government vowed to chip in $132 million to help retool that plant for EV production.

00:02:10.240 This post by Conservative MP Raquel Dancho.

00:02:13.640 Shocking news from Stellantis today. The Liberals gave Stellantis up to $15 billion for EV battery production, but apparently failed to secure any guarantee to protect Stellantis' wider manufacturing footprint in Canada.

00:02:30.680 Unfortunately, we're talking about EVs that consumers have shown little interest in buying.

00:02:36.300 Only about 9% of new cars sold in Canada are EVs.

00:02:40.840 The company's plans changed, of course, when President Trump announced a 25% tariff on imported automobiles.

00:02:48.760 The Prime Minister was quick to blame the move on those tariffs, saying that Stellantis' decision is a direct consequence of the U.S. tariffs and possible future trade actions, quote,

00:02:59.960 Until a more certain trade environment for the North American auto sector is established through the upcoming review of the Canada-U.S.-Mexico agreement, decisions on new investments in the auto sector will continue to be affected.

00:03:17.360 The McCarthy government has so far failed to reach a deal, a trade deal with the Trump administration, despite his election promise, campaign-wise, to do so by July the 21st.

00:03:28.340 Here he is weeks ago, assuring Canadians we already have the best deal with the Americans under the current USMCA.

00:03:36.340 We have the best deal of any one in the world right now.

00:03:42.000 We have the lowest tariff rate on average, a little over 5.5% versus that 16% average for the world, and in many cases, much higher.

00:03:51.520 We have that confirmed in the executive order of the president a few weeks ago.

00:03:56.280 So, it's important that we preserve that.

00:04:00.000 We happen to have the best deal with the Americans.

00:04:01.780 Okay.

00:04:03.240 Hasn't worked out, has it?

00:04:04.500 This post by Pierre Polyev, leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.

00:04:08.660 Tough day for 3,000 Brampton Stellantis workers who just learned that Mark Carney sold them out and let their jobs move to the United States after promising to negotiate a win with President Trump and giving billions of dollars in handouts to the company.

00:04:26.420 He elbows down Prime Minister, got no job guarantees for autoworkers, weak leader, broken promises, lost jobs. 0.75

00:04:35.940 For its part, the company says it does have plans for the Brampton plant, but wants to talk to the federal government first.

00:04:43.080 Does that mean they're looking for more tax dollars?

00:04:46.080 We'll have to wait and see.

00:04:47.160 That's my good friend, Mario Zalaya from the GTA.

00:04:50.780 Mario, very quickly, has become one of the most popular content producers online, generating millions of views to his very good videos.

00:04:59.940 Mario, welcome to the show.

00:05:01.600 Thanks for having me on, Mark.

00:05:03.240 In your recent video, you were talking about the Stellantis situation, the moving out of thousands of jobs.

00:05:11.520 It's terrible news for the workers in that city, terrible news for the country in general.

00:05:16.380 Let's watch a little bit of the video now that Mario generated as a result of that announcement.

00:05:22.560 I just got this audio recording.

00:05:24.260 I cannot show the video.

00:05:25.920 I can only show the audio.

00:05:27.220 So listen to this.

00:05:28.080 This is plant manager Alex Pittis.

00:05:30.400 I'm calling today because I want to share some important news that involves our plant.

00:05:35.480 Our CEO, Emponio Pelosa, just announced the largest single investment in our company's 100-year history.

00:05:42.340 $13 billion over the next four years to grow our business in the U.S.

00:05:48.340 What does this mean for Brampton Assembly?

00:05:51.060 For now, this means that those on layoff will remain on layoff.

00:05:55.780 We recognize the uncertainty this brings and will be working closely with Unifor to develop a plan that supports you through this transition.

00:06:03.240 We will continue to share updates as soon as more information becomes available.

00:06:08.200 There you have it.

00:06:09.740 Atlantis is moving production from Brampton to the U.S.

00:06:14.660 $13 billion investment in the U.S.

00:06:18.060 Yeah, I thought that the way that that announcement, that recorded announcement came out was particularly cruel because it starts off talking about this huge investment by the company, you know, $13 billion or whatever it was.

00:06:31.920 And then, you know, 30 seconds later, you realize none of that investment is coming to Canada.

00:06:37.440 Good for you for getting that recording, Mario.

00:06:39.840 What do you make of this announcement in Brampton?

00:06:42.060 I think it's concerning on multiple fronts.

00:06:46.200 One concerning because Mark Carney clearly hasn't expedited and put the negotiations of these tariffs that we have with the U.S. at the forefront.

00:06:55.560 If he prioritized that as the number one thing instead of, you know, flying around to different countries, who knows what could have happened?

00:07:03.520 And now we're playing the what if game.

00:07:06.020 And what if he actually prioritized it and dealt with that?

00:07:09.320 Because remember, when he first replaced Justin Trudeau and he was prime minister because he took over, he immediately flew over to the U.K.

00:07:17.640 He didn't go to see Donald Trump.

00:07:18.820 He didn't start negotiating with tariffs.

00:07:20.440 Like it was just it's almost like as though he put it in the back burner.

00:07:25.040 And not only that, like it the way this has come down, it was an eventuality unless he started really prioritizing it.

00:07:34.300 And so I think Canadians have a lot to be concerned about with their government that we still do not have a deal.

00:07:40.600 How is it that the tariffs were announced later for the U.K., later for all these other countries, and yet they reached some sort of an agreement, at least in principle?

00:07:49.820 It might not be in writing, but in principle, it was agreed to.

00:07:52.340 And at least there's stability in capital investments.

00:07:54.680 And this is what happens when companies are hesitant to deploy tens of billions of dollars.

00:08:00.480 The main thing that these companies are going to do is just like, you know what, we're not going to wait anymore.

00:08:05.060 These tariffs right now are going away in the in Canada against Canada.

00:08:08.700 We're just going to move production to the U.S.

00:08:10.460 That's the single biggest investment Stellantis has done in their history.

00:08:14.720 And it's going to America. 0.77

00:08:16.140 And not only that, I mean, I would love, I might even spend some time this evening looking at all the subsidies and grants that were given, not only to Stellantis, but to Volkswagen and all these other EV companies.

00:08:29.860 We were propping up a, what I'll say is a superficial industry.

00:08:35.280 This was all government subsidized.

00:08:37.420 And, you know, we were building, you know, when I say we, these large corporations were building plants with, you know, to create 2,000 new jobs.

00:08:45.940 But it would have been cheaper giving each person a million dollars than to have this go forward.

00:08:52.620 So I think the whole thing has been just an epic disaster.

00:08:56.120 Yeah.

00:08:56.320 And when you look at some of the previous, to your point, EV announcements, I mean, we're talking about up to $15 billion to Stellantis and another firm for this battery plant.

00:09:07.420 And yet when it came time to expanding their auto plant, that was retooling for EVs, well, they were looking at Michigan.

00:09:17.720 So they're relegating $100 million to the retooling of a plant in Michigan to build EVs, the Jeep EVs.

00:09:26.060 I mean, that's a, they could have easily done that in Canada, especially given this prior announcement of $15 billion, up to $15 billion for this EV plant.

00:09:36.520 For Stellantis.

00:09:37.820 So a lot of people are feeling betrayed by the company, which came out recently and said, oh, no, we've got plans for this plant.

00:09:45.320 And as soon as, you know, we talk to the feds about it, we'll let you know what those plans are.

00:09:50.820 Well, that tells me that they're looking for more government money.

00:09:53.500 If you're saying we're not going to make an announcement until after we talk to your government, that tells me that they're going cap in hand for more tax dollars.

00:10:00.400 What do you think?

00:10:02.620 Personally, if it were me, if there's any sort of breach of contract, I'm suing.

00:10:06.960 I'm suing for every single tax dollar that was given at the federal level and at the provincial level.

00:10:13.380 There's no way.

00:10:14.380 We are not a charity.

00:10:15.640 And we are not a corporate charity for anyone.

00:10:18.360 The fact that, you know, tens of billions of dollars were given to some of the biggest companies in the world is disgusting.

00:10:25.400 Like we are not here to prop up these billion dollar industries.

00:10:29.060 I think I think it was Goodyear that was given almost half a billion dollars.

00:10:34.460 And we're talking about a company that is double digits in the billions of dollars of revenue.

00:10:40.440 This is what the Liberal Party does.

00:10:42.780 They prop up these industries and all it takes is a swipe of a signature, a swipe of a pen.

00:10:48.440 The signature's on.

00:10:49.540 Boom.

00:10:50.340 That industry is destroyed.

00:10:51.660 It's literally happening to our video production and our movie production industry as well.

00:10:56.840 It's all been propped up by the government.

00:10:59.480 And actually, I take it back.

00:11:00.520 It's been propped up by me and you with our taxes because there is no such thing as government dollars.

00:11:05.600 There's only our dollars.

00:11:07.400 And we pay for it, not only for the money that gets given to these companies, but by inflation, which is by far the worst possible tax in existence.

00:11:15.760 Because once that hits, you don't get that money back.

00:11:18.480 It's not a one time.

00:11:19.600 This is a one time hit to whatever your net worth is in that moment of time.

00:11:24.200 I would much rather pay a higher tax rate than to have the inflation that we're having right now because of this uncontrolled spending.

00:11:31.520 It's this unsatiable desire to just spend, spend, spend at the corporate level to companies that really don't need the money.

00:11:39.380 And the amount of economic activity that is really being generated in the long run, I have no idea how they could possibly measure that ROI to say this is a great idea.

00:11:49.700 All these things require in-depth economic studies.

00:11:54.200 And I really question what those studies were that were done to justify the tens of billions of dollars for this industry, not factoring in or considering the risks that are associated with doing so.

00:12:07.020 It makes no sense.

00:12:09.000 Yeah, it doesn't make any sense at all, especially when you consider that roughly 9% of new vehicles sold in Canada are EVs.

00:12:16.920 So consumers are already giving them the thumbs down despite this move to ban gas-powered engines.

00:12:25.660 The people just don't want them.

00:12:27.320 And that's why these companies are losing millions on these EVs, despite the fact that we seem to be pushing headlong into the construction and the manufacturing of these EV products, these batteries.

00:12:40.760 But I also want to say that you made a good point earlier about the lack of prioritizing by Carney.

00:12:48.120 You know, the fact that he, rather than going to the United States, which is kind of traditional, it's usually the first people you talk to after you become prime minister.

00:12:56.620 You know, you always had the sense that he was trying to push away Trump, that he didn't think much of him, that he thought he could do an end run around Trump, make deals with all these other countries.

00:13:07.640 None of that worked.

00:13:09.620 And now we have this story here where high-level trade talks between Canada and the United States have resumed in Washington.

00:13:16.300 So there's all of a sudden this scramble, it seems, you know, after this announcement.

00:13:20.620 I'm sure it was planned before the announcement.

00:13:22.860 But all of a sudden they're starting to get nervous.

00:13:25.500 Like, maybe we better push, you know, put the pedal to the metal and get a deal with Trump before things get much worse.

00:13:30.660 Are you getting the sense that maybe there's some serious nervousness after being somewhat cocky at the start of his time in office, you know, Carney acting like he was the big man on campus?

00:13:43.080 Now all of a sudden, uh-oh, we're in trouble.

00:13:45.580 We better cut a deal with Trump, you know, ASAP.

00:13:48.200 Here's the thing that I've learned about negotiations over time, and this is a course that I loved and probably the best course I've ever taken in my university, in my life ever.

00:14:00.060 And I've read several books on it, and the tactic and the strategy of what the Liberals decided to do and what Carney decided to do by basically, let's ignore the bully.

00:14:12.440 Let's ignore him.

00:14:13.380 Let's ignore him.

00:14:14.400 It's a power play, and it's a power move, and it's strategically being done.

00:14:18.420 But when you have, there's something called the BATNA, the best alternative to a negotiated agreement.

00:14:23.800 Our BATNA is awful.

00:14:25.180 We have no other BATNA.

00:14:26.220 We need the United States because the majority of our GDP is exported to them.

00:14:30.400 They are our number one customer.

00:14:32.680 Now, on the flip side of it, the U.S., they don't need Canada, and they've signaled that.

00:14:39.200 And not only do they not need Canada, we want to manufacture everything that Canada, in their eyes, took from us.

00:14:46.080 We want to manufacture cars now.

00:14:47.980 And by Carney employing this negotiation strategy of ignoring instead of meeting him head on and giving him the things he wanted, there's something that he said very early on before he was officially put in office and replaced Biden.

00:15:07.740 And Donald Trump said he wants the Keystone XL.

00:15:12.600 I don't know if many people remember this or not, but that's the key thing that he wants.

00:15:17.240 If you look at the signals of the things that he's interested in, he wanted Greenland for what?

00:15:21.700 For the rare earth minerals.

00:15:22.800 And now here we are today talking about, you know, China saying that they're going to hold back those rare earth minerals and Donald Trump saying we're going to implement 100% tariff on China.

00:15:33.580 You have to look at what the person wants.

00:15:36.360 And if they want energy and we have the third largest supply in the entire world, we feed it to him.

00:15:42.880 We feed it to him endlessly.

00:15:44.220 And we say, you know what?

00:15:45.320 We will continue to give you the 20, 30% market rate discount that you've been getting.

00:15:51.480 That is our return to you on tariffs.

00:15:54.580 Like this is the tariff.

00:15:56.160 This is the fee that we're going to pay.

00:15:58.180 And you're going to get the discount.

00:15:59.220 And we're going to enrich ourselves as a result of it.

00:16:02.100 Canadians will become wealthier.

00:16:03.920 We will lower taxes.

00:16:04.780 We have, you know, GDP growth.

00:16:06.500 We will have so much growth because we are an energy superpower that has been artificially deflated by the liberal government.

00:16:14.680 And so if you look at what is available to you, Mark Carney, and I said this back in, I think it was April, I said he's going to have a choice to make.

00:16:23.760 He's going to either have to abandon his net zero insanity, his insane view of this, and it's going to make the economy suffer and he's going to lose his role as a prime minister, or he's going to build the Keystone XL pipeline and give Donald Trump what he needs.

00:16:42.620 And Donald Trump has him where he wants him.

00:16:45.240 He was not the person to best negotiate with Donald Trump.

00:16:48.800 And in fact, he literally told us when he failed officially, we have the best deal in the world.

00:16:55.420 That is the single most insulting thing that I think I've ever heard any prime minister shamelessly say and do.

00:17:02.920 When they tell us we're going to be elbows up, we're going to negotiate against them, I'm going to get you the best rate, and then for him to turn around and say we have the best deal in the world, that should be a massive slap in the face of every single Canadian that voted for him and even voted against him.

00:17:19.100 It is the most shameless thing any sort of prime minister can do.

00:17:22.440 It is the ultimate form of gaslighting.

00:17:24.660 And to me, the moment he said that, I realized this guy is no different than Justin Trudeau.

00:17:30.120 In fact, he's worse.

00:17:32.060 Yeah, absolutely.

00:17:33.780 And it was Biden, I guess, who canceled the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:17:38.440 The first day he was in office, he came in and that was it.

00:17:42.180 And, you know, it's been a disaster, really.

00:17:44.080 So Trump's trying to get that back online.

00:17:46.040 But the other thing that Carney said that stands out for me right now in light of everything that's happened with Stellantis is that Canadians are going to be investing, have already invested half a trillion dollars over the last five years in the United States.

00:18:02.060 So he's bragging about the fact that Canadian investors, rather than investing in Canada, are moving their money to the United States, you know, as if that's a good thing.

00:18:12.820 And he wants to do a lot more.

00:18:14.660 So in light of that, to look at Stellantis' move now to move its operation south of the border, it's another slap in the face, at least for taxpayers.

00:18:25.120 What do you think they do now?

00:18:26.800 I mean, where does Carney go from here?

00:18:29.780 I mean, he promised that there would be a negotiated deal, a victory, you know, a negotiated win over Trump back in, this was supposed to happen back in July, July 21st.

00:18:41.140 Here we are in the middle of October, still no deal.

00:18:44.660 You know, he's got his A-team down there scrambling to get a deal, and Trump seems to be in no hurry at all, does he?

00:18:51.380 I mean, at this point, he's cutting deals with a lot of other countries, including the 27 members of the EU and the UK and Japan, you know, huge players, huge trade players.

00:19:02.180 He's cutting all these other deals, and Canada still left, you know, on the sideline.

00:19:08.340 What does he do now, do you think?

00:19:10.600 And as of this morning, I believe he just raised the tariffs on softwood lumber to 45%.

00:19:16.820 So our tariffs, since Mark Carney has been in office, has actually gone up, and Mark Carney turns around and tells us we have the best deal in the world.

00:19:25.420 He has, he's being, he's being put into a corner now where he has no choice, and they're going to have to get a deal done soon because it's slowly starting to chip away at us.

00:19:33.160 If you look at what he did with Danielle Smith, he just ignored her.

00:19:38.240 It was the same thing.

00:19:39.580 Danielle Smith was asking, like, release the energy, you know, stop blocking oil, gas, like, let's really start unleashing what we have here in Alberta.

00:19:48.180 And he just ignored her as well.

00:19:50.220 This is a consistent strategy of what someone does when they don't want to face and tackle the problem head on.

00:19:56.800 I think, you know, and I talk to, you know, a lot of, you know, business associate friends and family, a lot of the things that make people very successful is being able to have very uncomfortable and awkward conversations and look at the other person in the eye.

00:20:12.080 This government has not done that.

00:20:14.480 In fact, they've ignored the bully, waited for, you know, maybe tensions to lower instead of them proactively lowering those tensions and actually working towards a solution.

00:20:24.500 You can't ignore the monster that's underneath the bed.

00:20:28.700 The monster is there and you have to tackle it head on and you have to figure out a way to actually deal with it.

00:20:35.320 And, you know, the way we deal with it is literally energy.

00:20:38.420 That is the one card that we have that we ultimately have to play.

00:20:42.820 He's going to have no choice.

00:20:44.440 He really is going to have no choice because our automotive sector and our automotive industry and our film industry, which employs, I think, the arts and media is over 175,000 people.

00:20:55.160 Plus in Canada, that's been decimated in Ontario and BC.

00:20:59.520 Ontario is going to experience some pretty big job losses, not just from the auto sector, but also from the media and arts sector as well.

00:21:07.300 And this is a massive problem.

00:21:10.780 And again, it's just been ignored away.

00:21:12.760 And so he's going to have to he's going to have to tackle it because the one thing that I've realized that the Liberal Party cares more about is polling and staying in power.

00:21:22.780 And so if the polling goes bad, if people are starting to reach out and they're really starting to get ticked like, hey, you're literally not doing anything.

00:21:30.860 I supported you in the election.

00:21:32.800 You told me you were going to do this.

00:21:34.520 And all of a sudden, you know, public service jobs are being cut.

00:21:38.260 You know, these people are being laid off.

00:21:39.720 Stellantis is moving overseas.

00:21:40.940 We're losing our corporations.

00:21:42.220 It starts snowballing.

00:21:43.800 They care more about power.

00:21:45.600 Oh, absolutely.

00:21:47.700 It's all they care about.

00:21:48.520 And of course, they've got a budget to table a few weeks from now that's potentially going to have a deficit of 65, anywhere from 65 to 100 billion dollars, depending on who you talk to.

00:22:01.060 But there is one other story that I want to ask you about.

00:22:05.220 The gun buyback.

00:22:06.540 I understand that you got a tip from somewhere inside the Liberal government that suggests that the gun buyback program might be scuttled.

00:22:15.860 Is that right?

00:22:17.300 Yes.

00:22:17.820 And so I literally just made the video this morning.

00:22:20.620 I got a text message about it.

00:22:23.320 And apparently the analysts, and I have to say apparently because this is directly from an extremely reliable source, is what I will say.

00:22:32.700 And they told me that an analyst, a liberal analyst who is actually working on the gun buyback program, all the analysts have received an email.

00:22:43.180 And that email basically said that this program is ultimately going to be shut down.

00:22:47.820 And it completely makes sense because it was an indefensible program in the first place.

00:22:54.500 And again, I really do believe that the momentum has shifted against them.

00:23:00.020 And people started talking and speaking up and saying, why are you spending a billion of our dollars taking firearms from people who aren't committing crimes, from law-abiding citizens who literally have their license?

00:23:12.380 When nearly 90%, and this is a direct number from the Toronto Police Association, I believe it was in 2024, they said 88% to be exact, of the firearms confiscated in crimes came from the U.S.

00:23:28.500 They're not even coming from Canada.

00:23:30.700 And a lot of these are guns that are prohibited.

00:23:35.120 You're not even allowed to have a handgun.

00:23:36.620 I can't walk around with one.

00:23:38.000 I can't even transport one to the firing range.

00:23:40.020 I think unless I'm a sports shooter, I think might be the exception.

00:23:44.740 But there's such crazy restrictions, but this is what's on the street, and it's coming from America.

00:23:50.520 So why on earth would you take this away from law-abiding citizens?

00:23:55.900 Why would you take it away from Canadians who are literally obeying the law when criminals are the ones that don't care for this?

00:24:01.580 And to spend a billion dollars in doing so, and have the OPP come out and say, we're not participating in this charade.

00:24:10.060 We got real work to do.

00:24:11.980 Like, that is a massive blow.

00:24:14.060 Because if the provincial police won't get involved, and they're not going to be knocking on people's doors and saying, hey, you have this firearm, you're supposed to give it in.

00:24:23.360 We're going to charge you, and we're going to, what, arrest you and take it away from you?

00:24:26.760 They don't have time for that. 0.94

00:24:27.760 No one has the resources for that.

00:24:29.680 And so I think there's going to be such a strong pushback that the amount of charges that they will lay across Canada, I think, will be massive.

00:24:36.520 And it will literally put an end to the Liberal Party.

00:24:40.400 I think this would be a disastrous program for them.

00:24:43.560 It absolutely makes zero sense.

00:24:45.440 So when I heard this, it completely makes sense.

00:24:48.060 Because once you look at the numbers, they ran their test program in Cape Breton, which is a liberal-friendly area.

00:24:54.800 I have a feeling they didn't hit the numbers that they thought they were going to do.

00:24:58.200 And this was a small sample size. 0.82

00:24:59.740 And they realized, like, holy crap, like, there's, let's say, X amount of people that have these prohibited firearms.

00:25:05.740 If we only have less than 2% or 3% of these people submitting, this is going to be an embarrassment. 0.51

00:25:10.320 That means we're going to have to charge, you know, 80%, 90% of people.

00:25:13.860 They have the numbers.

00:25:15.140 They have the numbers.

00:25:16.200 And I can almost promise you it's not looking good.

00:25:18.940 And they probably won't release it.

00:25:20.020 They're just going to say, well, you know what, we're going to trim it back, which I think is a great thing.

00:25:24.360 And it never should have been done in the first place, especially the way Gary tried to defend it, our safety minister.

00:25:29.060 The whole thing's a joke.

00:25:30.620 Man, it would be something if they were to walk away from that.

00:25:33.040 And I don't think there's a face-saving way for them to do it.

00:25:36.300 After all the tens of millions of dollars they've spent on this program, these guys are obsessed with censorship and grabbing guns.

00:25:43.640 It's just so typical of leftists.

00:25:45.920 Mario, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:25:47.700 It's just been a total pleasure chatting with you.

00:25:50.240 Likewise.

00:25:50.840 Thank you so much.

00:25:52.340 Mario Zalaya.

00:25:54.000 And that is it for this edition of Straight Up.

00:25:56.100 Appreciate you tuning in, my friends.

00:25:57.640 Let's do it again real soon, shall we?

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